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Speaker 1: Who Do Who. Special announcement alert, I repeat special announcement alert.

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Speaker 1: If you live in the city of San Francisco, California,

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Speaker 1: we are doing a big, jam packed Stradio Lab live

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Speaker 1: show on Friday, January seventeenth at Cobbs Comedy Club as

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Speaker 1: part of SF's Sketch Fest. We cannot wait to see you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Tickets are available in our Instagram bios and on linktree

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Speaker 1: t r ee dot com, slash Stradio Lab. Tell your friends,

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Speaker 1: spread the word. This is one of the biggest shows

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Speaker 1: we've ever done. It's our first time doing Sketch Fest.

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Speaker 1: We cannot wait to see you. We can't wait to

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Speaker 1: be in San Francisco in January and escape the frigid

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Speaker 1: New York cold and also I guess the very warm

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles weather for Sam and we can't wait to

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Speaker 1: see you January seventeenth at Cobbs Comedy Club, part of

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Speaker 1: SF Sketch Fest. See you there and enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: Podcast starts now. What is up everyone around the globe?

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Speaker 2: And welcome to Tradia Lab, the first one of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Happy New Year, George. Wow, god, I

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Speaker 2: love when we pretend no.

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Speaker 1: It's so amazing. And I wonder what the world. I

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Speaker 1: wonder what the world looks like. And we have no

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Speaker 1: idea right now.

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Speaker 3: We have no idea. We are in mid December, not

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Speaker 3: even early December.

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Speaker 1: It's I'll say it's December sixth.

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Speaker 3: You know it's December sixth.

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Speaker 1: I want to shout out to our dear friend Charlie Barday,

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Speaker 1: WHI tweeted, it's always crazy when a date is the

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Speaker 1: sixth of something, because it's like, oh my god, that's

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Speaker 1: like January sixth.

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Speaker 3: Damn.

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Speaker 1: That's which I was sort of feeling today. I was

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Speaker 1: struck by the I was struck by the date. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you could be listening on literal January sixth.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I don't even know when this is

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Speaker 1: coming out, but that could be very well likely.

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Speaker 2: I think it comes out January seventh, because Janiary sixth,

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Speaker 2: I believe it was a.

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Speaker 1: Monday Wow, starting the week off.

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Speaker 3: Right, starting the week off right. Remember, remember January sixth.

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Speaker 2: One thing that was funny about January sixth was I

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Speaker 2: posted a comedy video that day.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing about how.

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Speaker 1: I've used starting the capitol.

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Speaker 3: No, it was it was sort of off off theme.

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Speaker 2: It was about how I wanted to know at the

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Speaker 2: exact point a lazy river could become lazy enough to

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Speaker 2: where it became a pool. And I thought this, you know,

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Speaker 2: this was something that I'd been rattling around in my

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Speaker 2: a perfect day to post this amazing video.

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Speaker 1: And this was while the instruction was happening.

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Speaker 2: This was maybe one hour before I got it, so

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Speaker 2: I will say, you know, it was actually getting some

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Speaker 3: And then being like, wait, what's going on? I mean.

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Speaker 1: One of the great sort of genres of like fun story,

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Speaker 1: books that were like how progress is natural? Like, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or I mean this is less similar but still

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Speaker 2: a funny thing, like when Mariah Carey's Glitter came out

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Speaker 1: Yes, oh that's so that's that really is classic.

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Speaker 3: It's so classic because she couldn't have known. Yeah, how

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Speaker 1: I mean, of course, the various comedy shows both in

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Speaker 2: House doesn't burn that day, because because then who.

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Speaker 3: Will come to my show?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good that we can focus on what really matters.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of what really matters, you know, I'll say it,

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Speaker 1: Hulu is getting into comedy specials.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and someone needs to speak.

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Speaker 1: And someone needs to speak on it. And I actually

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Speaker 1: can't think of anyone better than our guest today. We

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Speaker 1: Glazer Hilana.

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Speaker 4: Hello, George and Sam, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how's it going here?

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Speaker 4: It's going well. I'm I'm happy to be talking to you.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: You know you did say before recording that you have

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Speaker 2: a packed fry day.

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Speaker 3: How does that feel? Emotions going?

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Speaker 4: It feels I'm I'm starting the release, you know, I'm

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Speaker 4: starting to get some relief and release and by ending

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Speaker 4: the day with you guys, at least ending it professionally,

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Speaker 4: which is what I consider this context.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we will be sending you a W two.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: This is all pretty lucky and lovely. So I'm I'm happy.

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Speaker 4: I'm contented. How are you guys today on December sixth,

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Speaker 4: not January sixth and summer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's so similar. I had a I'm okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm good. Actually, I had an interesting I've been in

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Speaker 3: Oh weird.

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Speaker 2: I was in New York before and it was a

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Speaker 4: Oh God, It's like it is my whole identity.

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Speaker 1: Sam Moving the Sam Moving to LA is like the

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Speaker 1: undercurrent of the of this last year of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: It has, i would say, become officially a podcast that

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Speaker 1: has become a podcast about Sam's various thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: paramount a lot on you know, Sam's various real estate

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Speaker 2: And of course my medical journeys and Sam's medical journeys.

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Speaker 3: She's cool. She's an interesting person.

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Speaker 1: You know, said cruel cruel Anas like, wait, so she's

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Speaker 4: I was. I was just hoping, hoping for like a

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Speaker 4: caricature of like you'd think she was cool. She's like

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Speaker 4: You just came from New York, you know, but here

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Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, I think she She more like gets

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Speaker 3: She's like, you're not in New York anymore. You gotta

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Speaker 1: I'm like no, I don't like yeah, interesting, how friendliness

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Speaker 1: the great like you know, it's like that thing what

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Speaker 1: But then it all is coming from such a place

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yeah, and also medical journey. Can I just

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Speaker 2: This so this is an amazing day because part of

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Speaker 4: So happy to hear that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's truly been like one year of all

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Speaker 4: Now I'm I'm a held explorer, girly, I'm about OB's

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Speaker 4: and your urologists have not a place of peace.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're at a place of peace.

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Speaker 2: And I do think I want to say, I'm actually

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Speaker 1: Get if you don't have a urologist, get a urologist.

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Speaker 2: When my urologist calls, I can't help it, scream my

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like agent is calling.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Genna Maroney saying your fecalist is poisoning your what

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're not living kabbalaists. Sorry, my fecalist is

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Speaker 1: That another journey that we've had since we started this podcast.

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Speaker 1: In the beginning, I was having minor butt surgery, and

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Speaker 1: So now it's the ball is back to me again,

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what you come up with.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for a new medical issue. I think it's coming.

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Speaker 4: How old are you guys?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 1: I'm thirty five and I'm thirty three.

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Speaker 4: I'm the baby, okay, little baby, so I'm like really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Have you always been doctor forward?

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Speaker 1: Not to immediately go gay versus straight, but this is

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Speaker 1: to be to have hypochondriac tendencies and to not not

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Speaker 3: I would say gay.

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Speaker 4: Fully gay, I think because like straight guys like they're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also like literal statistics of like, when straight

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Speaker 1: Well, because we have much response psychologically, they're being poisoned.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: And the dentist now is like for also like cancer

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Speaker 1: The dentist it's not just for your teeth anymore.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you want them looking down there, you know what

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Speaker 4: No, No, I go to like a like farty office

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Speaker 3: One of the most amazingiful stories.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing with dancers, Thank you, Sam. Dancers,

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Speaker 1: I trust that more than if someone is. I say

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Speaker 2: No, I obviously, I think it's one of the weird

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Speaker 2: I think it's honestly a generational difference when like, older

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's right. She was a child star dancer, a.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, yeah. And there's also like systemic shit on

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Speaker 1: Where you're like exactly, you literally can ask any questions.

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Speaker 1: But it's not your fault.

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Speaker 4: No, absolutely not. That's right.

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Speaker 1: You haven't killed anyone. I mean, obviously, listen if someone

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say the dumbest thing. I was, like, God,

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Speaker 2: it must be like, it's so brave to like pivot

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Speaker 4: Well, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: They put you out to pasture. You have to figure

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Should we jump into our first segments?

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Speaker 3: Whoa's crazy?

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Speaker 1: Am I being so rushed?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's a little faster than normal, but I

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Speaker 1: Okay, stunning, so Alana. Our first segment is called straight Shooters,

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Speaker 1: and in this segment, we gauge your familiarity with in

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Speaker 1: Don't think about it too hard. The one rule is

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Speaker 1: We will take back every nice thing. We're gonna send

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Speaker 1: you to the dentist and we're gonna tell her do

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Speaker 2: This to this perdon and this is gonna be a

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Speaker 4: Honestly great because I need a screening and I need

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Speaker 4: to know if I have cancer. Okay, Okay, well then yikes,

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Speaker 2: Sam go okay, Elana speratu on Christmas Day?

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Speaker 3: Or oh you've got to try my delicious cake.

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Speaker 4: Oh you've got to try my delicious cake.

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Speaker 6: Everybody hurts, or everybody poops, everybody poops.

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Speaker 3: Childlike wonder or warlike plunder.

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Speaker 4: Oh, childlike wonder.

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Speaker 1: Okay, a bouquet of roses or a ballet with poses.

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Speaker 4: A bouquet roses?

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, being assassinated or getting ass as a form

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Speaker 2: of payment.

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Speaker 4: Oh, getting ass as a form of payment.

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Speaker 1: Ass as a form of payment is literally like a

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Speaker 1: Broad City episode. If I've ever heard yes, Yes, Okay, Alana,

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Speaker 1: she's a brick and I'm drowning slowly. Or I got

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Speaker 4: She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly.

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Speaker 2: If you care to find me, look to the western sky.

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Speaker 2: Or if you're feeling hungry, I'll cook up a shepherd's pie.

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Speaker 4: Oh, if you're feeling hungry, I'll cook up a shepherd's pie.

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Speaker 6: Wow, okay, broad City or apploud, this is witty. Who wow, Sam,

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Speaker 6: yours were so good today, No yours were to die

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Speaker 6: for you?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 1: I was like he he sat down, took out the

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Speaker 1: notesap and said, today we're going to make history. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we have to rank Alana on a scale of zero

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Speaker 1: to one thousand doves. I have to say, I think

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Speaker 1: that was a really great performance.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was a really amazing performance.

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Speaker 1: It was giving generational talent. I think she immediately understood

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Speaker 3: There was a point of view, there was a perspective.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Sometimes Alana went for the more obviously

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Speaker 1: funny choice, and sometimes it was like no, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: pick a bouquet of roses. Yeah, I don't care that

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Speaker 1: you made a little joke with a ballet of poses.

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Speaker 1: This is about what I want.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Alana wasn't gonna get pushed around by two random

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, who are these random gay guys? And

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Speaker 1: why are they making rhymes that barely work? This is

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Speaker 1: my show. I'm going to promote my Hulu special and

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Speaker 1: I don't care about everybody hurts or everybody poops.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go ahead and say nine hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty two doves.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The only you know where there was room for improvement,

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Speaker 2: of course, is there was a there was you know,

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Speaker 2: where's the vulnerability?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where's the vulnerability?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Of course? And Alana, you know you're coming in with

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. Wow, okay, okay, the pressure's on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a nine twenty two, which is actually

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Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah we've had.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I didn't even quite know it was a performance,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I thought it was more

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Speaker 4: I mean, I was like, what I wasn't quadro I

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Speaker 1: I think it's about finding the right balance between having

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think you actually, you really did a great job

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Speaker 4: Oh thank you.

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Speaker 1: You were kind of a former dancer who then gets

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Speaker 1: into hip hop dance. Wow, that was a spirit. You

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Speaker 1: can tell you're classically trained, but you're being a little

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Speaker 1: Julia styles and saved the last dance.

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Speaker 3: You're doing nice.

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Speaker 4: That resonates with me. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, huh, Well you get into the topic.

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Speaker 1: I have a question for you, Lana. If you could

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Speaker 1: what would it be?

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Speaker 4: You know what I've been thinking about. I wonder if

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Speaker 4: you guys know this. I've been thinking a lot about you.

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Speaker 4: Ever read Jeremy Jeremy Thatcher, Dragon Catcher?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: No, it was this like book as a child that

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Speaker 4: and it was like about this Boy's Imaginary Dragon, which

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Speaker 4: is now a band, right, Oh yeah, dragon, which is

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Speaker 4: a very like straight band or like like straight you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm actually been thinking about because it was

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Speaker 4: It's almost like I kind of I remember it was

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes it's funny the books you read as

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Speaker 4: A changed changed.

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Speaker 3: It's weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, like sideways story, right, what is it?

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Speaker 1: Sideway stories from Wayside School? Like that was that Lewis

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Speaker 1: Sacars that literally formed my sense of humor. And then

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Speaker 4: You're like a octo generation. You're like an eighth generation

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Speaker 4: younger than me. So I like missed kept under it was.

447
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Speaker 1: I would say, I was like at the tippy at

448
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 1: the kind of end of that of me being able to.

449
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 1: But also it's complicated because this is a long story.

450
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 1: But you know, I moved to America when I was young,

451
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 1: and I was behind somewhere from Greece, and so I

452
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 1: was behind on my reading level. I distinctly remember my

453
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: first year in America, which was second grade. I would

454
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 1: watch Blues Clues and then everyone else would be like,

455
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 1: that's like we're all like that's lame, Like I would.

456
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 1: I would be like excited when I would see Blues

457
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Clues merch like sold in the supermarket or whatever, and

458
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 1: then everyone else would be like, who is this loser

459
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 1: that is watching Blues Clues?

460
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 4: I feel you though, Like I was like so depressed

461
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 4: as a teenager that I would watch one of the

462
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 4: Pooh and Blues Clues like to feel better. So I

463
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 4: was watching Blues Clues at the same time that you

464
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 4: were let's say in sixth grade, but like inappropriately, like

465
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 4: I didn't need to learn English. I was just super sad.

466
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also was doing more childish things than I

467
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 2: should have.

468
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 3: Like I would play I played Yu gi oh cards

469
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 3: when I was like far too.

470
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Speaker 2: Old, you know, not in a way that was like, oh,

471
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 2: I'm like a collector of things, and this is just

472
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: one of the many things. It was like I was

473
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 2: just like I like you yeoh, and I'm in fully

474
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: a junior in high school.

475
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 4: Not to control the situation, I just am making a

476
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 4: connection that it's like children are rushed to grow up

477
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 4: in a way that's super sad, Like it's so sad

478
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 4: that we're we feel we feel embarrassed by being childlike

479
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 4: when you like are a child, your child at eighteen,

480
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 4: also like your brain stops growing finally at twenty five,

481
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, you're a kiddager. You're like twenty four like

482
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 4: a kid, you know what I mean, Like you can't

483
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 4: really be responsible for yourself, like in this like volatile

484
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 4: world twenty five.

485
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

486
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: The politics of growing up, specifically in America are so

487
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: fascinating because on the one hand, everyone's in a rush

488
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: to grow up when they're teenagers. And then on the

489
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: other hand, suddenly people are like in their thirties and

490
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: forties and being Disney adults and going to Marvel movies

491
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. It's almost like if we just

492
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: allowed people to be children when they were children, they

493
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: would not basically live their entire adult life in a

494
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: sense in a state of nostalgia for their lost child.

495
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 4: Totally.

496
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: That's like one of the darkest things you've ever said, George.

497
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: It's so true.

498
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 3: It's really quite hurtful.

499
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: You know, I just I come in with my four

500
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: and I and I can just diagnose American pathologies in

501
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: a way that few people can.

502
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 4: Wait, Sam, do you feel personally attacked by that?

503
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: No, because I I think where I feel maybe personally

504
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 2: attacked is like, but this is complicated.

505
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 3: In our dynamic. George always is the grown up.

506
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: George has always wanted to be forty five, even when

507
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 2: he was twenty five. Sure, and so I'm always like

508
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: trying to push him to be a child again in

509
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: like a but not a child. I'm just pushing him

510
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: to be twenty five, like he wants to grow up,

511
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: and I'm always.

512
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: Want to be a college professor.

513
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he already wants, like, you know, his college

514
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: age child to be like asking him for money, and

515
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 2: he's like, no, what's wrong with you? And I'm always like, George,

516
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: can we just go back? Like can we live in

517
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: a warehouse and like start a band and like yeah,

518
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: Like what's.

519
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: Interesting about What's interesting about this dynamic though, is that

520
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: then actually Sam is, for example, more responsible with money,

521
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: more of a planner, and less of a procrastinator. Like

522
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: Sam actually has adult qualities that I lack. It's almost

523
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: like I fetishize adulthood, but I but I can.

524
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 4: It's almost like he's caring for that child as a

525
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 4: grown up, you know what I mean, Like he's caring

526
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 4: for his inner child.

527
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 3: Wow.

528
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: The social analysis is jumping out.

529
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, thank you.

530
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: Do you do you try to grow up? Do you

531
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: want to do you try to grow up faster? You

532
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: try to stay young?

533
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 4: For a No, Because I was like very I was

534
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 4: like a very elderly millennial, like very young. Me and

535
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,719
Speaker 4: my best friends growing up were and we were like

536
00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 4: so uncomfortable, and the boys were gay, and we were

537
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 4: all like when we just get to the city, everything

538
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 4: will be okay and we get out of here, like

539
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 4: we won't be you know, among it was very like

540
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 4: Jersey Shore energy. A lot of people on Jersey Shore

541
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 4: are actually from Long Island, like that's where we grew

542
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 4: up and with whom we grew up and but like, honestly,

543
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 4: like I also love Long Island, and I love the

544
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 4: Long Island spirit outside of conservative politics or whatever, the

545
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: big hearted, enthusiastic, you know, kind of tactless in a

546
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 4: way that I love spirit so and then also like

547
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 4: with comedy, like I just kind of knew that I

548
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 4: wanted to do this so young, and like planned and

549
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 4: schemed and went for it so young that I now

550
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: am like really have been like very focused on playfulness,

551
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 4: pleasure and joy because the work shit I know how

552
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 4: to do. I know how to work hard, plan shit, execute,

553
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 4: So I really love That's why I'm like kind of

554
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 4: valuing what your natural disposition is, sam As like actually

555
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 4: like the.

556
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 5: No offense George, but the more advanced.

557
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 4: Thing that I aspire to be, you know, because I'm like, damn,

558
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 4: that's a freedom, that's a comfort with yourself that's like

559
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 4: both a gift and a practice. Hope.

560
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and also I think related to this is

561
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: what you're saying Alana. When you grow up wanting to

562
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: be some sort of like a writer of any story,

563
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: whether it's comedy or otherwise. If you focus on that,

564
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: then you actually don't have the experiences necessary to have

565
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: something to write about. So it's almost so you like

566
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: exactly exactly blow your load early because you're like, oh, look,

567
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: I can form a sentence, I can write a joke whatever.

568
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: And then you get to be twenty seven or something

569
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: and you realize, oh god, now I have to go

570
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: back and reverse engineer a life that I can then

571
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: write about because I've sort of run out of things yep.

572
00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 4: And it's like like it's a false's it's not true

573
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: that you've lost out on the opportunity to be playful

574
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 4: and new and continually become. But I've actually found that

575
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 4: mourning the loss of that time is the first step

576
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: in the first step toward actually being present now and

577
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 4: like just like being and living now. But it's like

578
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: hard to be like, damn, I really missed out.

579
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of missing out, I would love to know

580
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: what your straight topic is today and what you think

581
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: is straight about it.

582
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 4: So my straight topic I really I'm going to admit here,

583
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 4: like speaking of child star energy child dancer like recruited

584
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 4: Russian child dancer energy and the performance that I wasn't

585
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 4: positive was a performance until it was affirmed after of

586
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 4: the worship test earlier. I really was desperate to tickle

587
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 4: you both with this topic, and I hope I've achieved

588
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 4: to that with a straight topic of rushing perfect. I

589
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 4: was asked rushing like a sorority. No, I'm talking about

590
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 4: people in a hurry to get somewhere.

591
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking woman holding tote bag, coffee, change, sneakers

592
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: because she's wearing heels and needs to change. She is

593
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: holding six things and she needs to get to the opening.

594
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 4: You know, she could be holding all those things but

595
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 4: not rushing and it would be chill.

596
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

597
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 4: But if she's rushing and she's prioritizing her plans above others,

598
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: it's very straight.

599
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

600
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 4: Uh is that good?

601
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

602
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

603
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: Okay, great, okay and goodbye.

604
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: No.

605
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 4: No, well, I thought you were like, tell me what

606
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: you think is right about it, but I'm like, we'll

607
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 4: discuss it or.

608
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, now we discussed Okay, Sam, what is your relationship

609
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: with rushing?

610
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: Well, this is I'm so glad you asked George. I

611
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: am a huge rusher, and in a way I think

612
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: it is straight because it is like it's by the books.

613
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: You're like, I need to be on time.

614
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: I need to do what's right, Like I believe in

615
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: the Lord Jesus Christ, and I'm on time time business meeting.

616
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 5: Right right right.

617
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 4: There's a scripted nature to it.

618
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like my parents are inherently good people, and

619
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: this is like there's something unquestioning about it where you're like, no,

620
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: being on time is most important thing, but I do

621
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: do it a lot, And especially in New York, where

622
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: I've talked about this, it's more glamorous to be rushing.

623
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: Like I really enjoyed the you know, eating a piece

624
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: of pizza while running down the street to like get

625
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: to the show on time.

626
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: Like you know, in La, you're like farting in your

627
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 4: car is what rushing looks like. Like just stinking up

628
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 4: your car and hating yourself is rushing in La.

629
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: Social in LA sucks, you are just like you're just

630
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: like honking. You're just like stuck in honking and just

631
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: being like listening to a podcast angrily, Like it's like

632
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 2: this sucks and you have no there's not even like

633
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: oh I can run at least, like there's no run,

634
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: you just need be causing you know, million dollars in

635
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: damages if you decided to run in your car.

636
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: It's interesting, Marie.

637
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: Marie Foston's topic was being on time, and I think

638
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: that has like its own that has its own quality

639
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: of being straight. But I think rushing.

640
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: Is that's so funny.

641
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I think rushing is related but different in

642
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: that it is a larger ethos, like you don't have

643
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: to be running late to be rushing. It's about you

644
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: how you choose to live your life. And it almost

645
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: like is about a fear of a fear of stasis,

646
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: like it's like you have to constantly be on there somewhere,

647
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: you have to constantly be going to the other thing,

648
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: and ultimately a fear of death because it's like, oh, yeah,

649
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: you are running from something. You think you're running towards something,

650
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: and you're actually running from something.

651
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 4: And there is like a like a deep seated homo

652
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 4: erotic nature about it where it's like if I sit

653
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 4: for a moment and have a gay thought totally, I

654
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: don't know I'll do with it. And if I die, conversely,

655
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 4: die without you know, having sex, you know, what I mean,

656
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: having queer sex. I'm going to like need to elevate

657
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 4: in the next life because I didn't do the thing

658
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 4: that I wanted to do this time. And also Marie's thing,

659
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 4: Like Marie's thing is like about She's like, if you're

660
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: reading this, I'm probably forty five minutes late. It's like

661
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 4: this value system that we place on being on time,

662
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: whereas rushing is like, yeah, it's this like mode, I guess.

663
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 4: And the thing that got me to rushing was thinking

664
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 4: about waiting around and at first, like I kind of

665
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: confused the assignment where I was like, waiting around is

666
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 4: like really queer because you're like kind of like horny,

667
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: like checking out like anybody, you know what I mean,

668
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: and like seeing what comes to you and being comfortable

669
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: with it. And rushing is straight in that way tunnel

670
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 4: vision on the script as you're saying it, sam By

671
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 4: the book, this scripted nature of like, well, I check

672
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 4: off all the things that make me a good stripe.

673
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: Guy or whatever. And it's like a lack of deep

674
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: contemplation and thought because it's about action rather than internal work,

675
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: like you are, you're getting from point A to point

676
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: B if you pass on the way from point A

677
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: to point B a human rights violation. You won't notice it,

678
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It is your only goal

679
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: is getting to point B.

680
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: You are And yeah, George, what's your relationship with rushing?

681
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: I think, well, I have this sort of classic ADHD

682
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: thing of it's either now or not now. This is

683
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: the thing that they say about ADHD where it's like,

684
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: this is why people procrastinate, this is why people realize

685
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: on the day of the deadline that they haven't started.

686
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: So I would say what my sort of ethosays is like,

687
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: up until the last minute, I'm actually pretty calm, and

688
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: then there's this like insane period of let's say rushing,

689
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: let's say anxiety. But it's not a larger ethos that

690
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: I live my life with. It's like the exception where

691
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: it's like, oh God, here we go, like once again,

692
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: I have to in the next three hours do five

693
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: weeks of work.

694
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: I love how you work. I do feel so.

695
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: In that sense, I'm sort of by.

696
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's cool.

697
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: I think I I'm this is a okay, maybe I'm

698
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: becoming more and more therapy pilled again, George.

699
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and therapy pilled.

700
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: Therapy pilled as in believing in it and just sort

701
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: of liking that.

702
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

703
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: So, actually, can I just very quickly say so, Sam

704
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: and I have been semi ironically pushing back against the

705
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: ubiquity of therapy, and I actually think and Sam, let

706
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: me know if you agree. I'm like, twenty twenty five,

707
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: we are all back in on therapypy year, I'm getting

708
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: a new therapist. It is it is no longer. Therapy

709
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: is no longer like, oh, this thing that is sort

710
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: of lame to talk about because it's such a cliche

711
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: to be like everyone should be in therapy. You are

712
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: going back to actually, yeah, everyone should be in therapy.

713
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, because I think it was it felt kind

714
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: of fun to be like reckless with my feelings and

715
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: be like I wonder where this will end up, Like

716
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: I'm curious, like if I'm just shaken up for a bit,

717
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: like where it'll land. And now I'm sort of like,

718
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: hold on, that's enough shaking for now.

719
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: It's time to get serious.

720
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

721
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: But that being said, I'm like, I keep doing you know,

722
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: fake therapy on myself, and I when I'm in a rush,

723
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: I get like so like angry and like irritable, and

724
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: in this way that is like.

725
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: A completely different person. It's not chill at all.

726
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm like I remember being I

727
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 2: like definitely get this from like being late to school.

728
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: Like me and my sister would go to like we're

729
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: one year one great a part.

730
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 2: So we would like go to school sent all the time,

731
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: and so it would be like like if she was

732
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: running late and I was on time, I'd be so

733
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: angry and vice versa.

734
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 3: If like like we would just.

735
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: Like kind of go at it and be like like

736
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: insufferable if we were ever late. And so I'm like

737
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: I bring that into my adulthood and I've never let

738
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: go of it.

739
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: I think interesting, would you say to sort of go

740
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: back to the therapy question that CBT is rushing and

741
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: psychoanalysis is sitting with it Like CBT is literally like

742
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: action based, right like, And I that's why I think

743
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: CBT is a straighter form of therapy than psychoanalysis, like psychonalysis.

744
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 7: You are digging, yes, dang, because like the thing about

745
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 7: your whole paradigm, your whole framework with this podcast is

746
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 7: like l O wol.

747
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: But then it's like so fucking.

748
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 6: Real, I have the hope we don't always got there ship.

749
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. And it's like if I can

750
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 4: quantify it and do that exactly exactly, maybe I'll get there.

751
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 4: And it's like nah, no.

752
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: No, it's like not not dealing with it's you being

753
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: like filling out a form the entire time. You're but

754
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: you have no idea, but you're like, I filled out

755
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: the form. Here you go, I filled out the form.

756
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: You're bleeding from your eyes. You're going to the front desk.

757
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: You're saying, here is this enough. They're like, do you

758
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: need to go to the hospital. You're like, I filled

759
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: out the form.

760
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. Right. For some reason, the farting in your car

761
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 4: is coming back up for me, And like that's more

762
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 4: psychoanalysis where you like have to like sit with your

763
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: shit and be like okay.

764
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: Okay, I know it's funny. In some ways, LA is

765
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: more psychoanalysis in New York is ironically because New York

766
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: is so psychoanalysis and up the outside, but actually LA,

767
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: because you're forced to sit with it, is more psychoanalysis.

768
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: In New York. You're like, well, if I don't, you know,

769
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: if I don't cross the street now, I'm going to be.

770
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 4: Killed, right, And in LA, you're like the whole purpose

771
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 4: of the city is to create like a para a

772
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 4: para realistic relationship of yourself with yourself. So it's like

773
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: like kind of totally it kind of have to You're like,

774
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 4: what is my brand? And then you have to confront

775
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: like what your fucking brand is or something.

776
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: Everyone wakes up every day they take out a little

777
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: life size puppet of themselves and they go to the

778
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: life sized puppet theater and put on a show and

779
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: everyone just has their puppet and they're like, look, my

780
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: performance is really good today. Yeah.

781
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 4: It's like that's like it's like kind of Voodoo Dolley

782
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: like staging it and like crystal putting crystals in Yeah.

783
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: Everything is one step removed from real life.

784
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: I think of LA mostly as a series of gates.

785
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, like in New York, I see just possibility.

786
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: I can go anywhere I want, whenever I want. In La,

787
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: everything is gated. Like to leave my house, I have

788
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 2: to open a gate, and I have to open another gate,

789
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: and then I have to get into a car, which

790
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: is a gate, and then I have to go on

791
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: a highway, which is a gate.

792
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: Being so Caroline Polo check you open the door to

793
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: another door, to another door.

794
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much.

795
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: Those are lyrics to a random song, yeah, to another

796
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: door to she says, you open the door to another door,

797
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: to another door, which is kind of one of the

798
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: most true things that has ever been spoken.

799
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not even really coming up in.

800
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: My Oh poly check, you're making a playlist.

801
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 4: She's thirty nine, okay, I love her.

802
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: No, she's also Oh yeah, she's been around forever.

803
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Remember the band chair Lift, Well she was in it.

804
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: She was in it. Gorgeous, beautiful, fashionable, kind of iconically

805
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: like I don't want to say airheaded because that's offensive,

806
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: but there's something very like airy about her intellect, Like

807
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: she'll be sort of intellect Damn she's so she's a

808
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: great you know, she'll she'll have like great lyrics, she'll

809
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: have great music. And then one time she posted something

810
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: that was long lines of like stop comparing me to

811
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: Kate Bush. I'm my own person, but like no one

812
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: was comparing her to Kate.

813
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, there's tough.

814
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: It's tough, you know, it's tough to be an alt

815
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: pop musician and all of us that's not her life.

816
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, we are lucky.

817
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, okay, I have, I want to go

818
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: back to rushing. Yes, Like emotionally, do you guys feel

819
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 2: guilt when like I think there's there is something too

820
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: the rushing comes from, like wanting to please others or something. Ooh,

821
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: and I feel that pretty hard. And I'm like, do

822
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: you do you both feel that?

823
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: Or no?

824
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: I would say it's interesting because you think rushing. You

825
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: think that in rushing, you're pleasing others, and of course

826
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: you don't want to be you know, five hours late.

827
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: But I actually often think the people in my life

828
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: that are the most in your face and you know,

829
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: are almost like performatively anxious, always out of breath, it

830
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: actually creates a bad vibe, you know, like you actually

831
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: are more, it's much more. It's it's nicer towards other

832
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: people if you have a more calming presence, even if

833
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: you do happen to be ten minutes late. Like the

834
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: sort of classic kind of like New York figure of

835
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: the person who's like, you know, slamming the door in.

836
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: She's she's you know, her dog. She's like carrying her

837
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: dog and the dog is like, you know, midpoop. She's

838
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: like getting into the you know, getting into the restaurant,

839
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: like accidentally like knocking over a table. You're sort of like,

840
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: if you just calm down for a bit, it would

841
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: actually be a better experience for all of us.

842
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's something when you like said that, sim it's

843
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 4: like I'm thinking about like brushing really usually has to

844
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 4: do with what you you're perceived expectations of yourself pleasing,

845
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 4: like that type of pleasing others. And it's like there's

846
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 4: something outwardly imposing about rushing that is not self contained

847
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 4: and not like self definitive the way that the queer

848
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 4: experience calls for.

849
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I have one more.

850
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, this is the only argument I have for

851
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: rushing potentially being queer. Ready, Yeah, it's dreaming that you

852
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: can have it all, because I think I'm most likely

853
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: to rush when I'm like I'm going to go to

854
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: this thing, but I'm going to get a coffee before,

855
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 2: and I know that this could like throw everything for

856
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: a loose.

857
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: Like try.

858
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, sort of like stuffing your like face, yeah kind of. Yeah, Yeah,

859
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: I relate to that packing it.

860
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 3: In I really totally.

861
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: And also, you know, it goes back to a lot

862
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: of these things, uh, like the fear of death, for example,

863
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: of course it is a straight quality, but it's also

864
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: historically a very queer quality, Like it is like the

865
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: instinct I want to make the most of a life

866
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: and to not want to settle is very queer, And

867
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: so I could see a way, you know, I could

868
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: see like a queer argument for sort of this having

869
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: this like all encompassing zest for life, and in order

870
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: to do it all you have to be constantly on

871
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: a rush, in a rush. But I will say that

872
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: there's something the straight version of rushing is like not

873
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: about that. It's much it's much more about like getting

874
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: to the meeting, Yeah.

875
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 4: Because the oh go ahead, Sam, Sorry, Oh well.

876
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: It's also taking something that's a personal issue and making

877
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: it like a societal issue, Like suddenly your feeling is

878
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: now everyone else's problem. You're pushing, you're shoving, it's you're

879
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: outwardly a problem.

880
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the queer version of it, I wouldn't actually

881
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: say is really rushing. It's like an insatiable thirst. It's

882
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 4: in the context of oppressive straightness, like what we're talking about.

883
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also maybe a more psychological and emotional rushing.

884
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: It's like you're you know, not to be, not to

885
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: like romanticize whatever. It's like your brain going a mile

886
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: a minute because you are, you know, trying to interpret

887
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: all the different, you know, contradictions of the world and

888
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: trying to see how you can live as other in

889
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: a world that's not made for you. Like there is

890
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: a there is a sort of a constant intellectual quote

891
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: unquote rushing happening because you are trying to find the

892
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: right way to exist in the world, whereas the stray

893
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 1: version of rushing is much more external. It's like there's

894
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: nothing going on up here, but you're running on the street.

895
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, Yeah, no, that makes sense. I hate sort

896
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 3: of I'm like sorry when you said that.

897
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: All I was thinking about was like, how when like

898
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 2: scientists and movies about scientists like have that big moment

899
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: where they're seeing all the numbers and really through.

900
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: That Like but that is kind of queer though anything no,

901
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: that is it.

902
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: Is absolutely queir And I was like, I was just

903
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: sort of mourning that. I'm like, that's never gonna happen

904
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 2: for me, Is it? Like I never had that moment

905
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: with all the numbers you can with all the words.

906
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like that is like the that's like

907
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 4: the difference kind of like rushing on the street, like

908
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 4: you're saying, nothing's going on up here, but like the

909
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: sort of Homeland formula, it's like a different thing. It's

910
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 4: like rebelatory or something. And I feel like, Sam, I'm like,

911
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm witnessing a couple Homeland moments from

912
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 4: you already today.

913
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

914
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 4: And also like the fact that you're in LA and

915
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 4: you made this big move after twelve years. I'm like,

916
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 4: I'm sure you came to some sort of like existential calculations.

917
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going through them always, even a year in.

918
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm I've been here for like eighteen years.

919
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 4: I'm like still going through them, which is good, right,

920
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: Like it's like means you're like alive. Yeah, because there

921
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 4: is this like thing that we're talking about rushing, but

922
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 4: it's like just the sort of painful running that is

923
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 4: being alive.

924
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do we think of like rushing?

925
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: I have something?

926
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: Okay, what about like people that rush to sort of succeed,

927
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: Like people who at like twenty two are like like

928
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a doctor, Like I need to

929
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 2: like the rush to grow up, I guess is sort

930
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: of what I'm saying like, I know we talked about

931
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: it a little bit, but like more in like a

932
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: business ye way, like people that like graduate college and

933
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: are like, right now I have to go get a

934
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: big job and throw my humanity out the wind.

935
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: Wow, what an amazing way to bring it back to

936
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: our initial conversation. It literally was like the rushing of

937
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: child from childhood to adulthood.

938
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that that is stray right?

939
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: Or it's tough, because I really think it could go

940
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: either way, because on the one hand, all right, let's say,

941
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: in a traditional queer narrative, which hopefully now is no

942
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: longer the case, a traditional queer narrative, you sort of

943
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: are like losing out on the beauty of like child

944
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: you know, teenage flirting. You know, let's say you're in

945
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: the closet, You're losing out on the beauty of like

946
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: teenage flirtation, teenage relationships, first hookups, whatever, and then the

947
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: stereotype is that you sort of make up for it after.

948
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: And so maybe gay people are more sexually active when

949
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: they're like in their twenties and thirties, whereas everyone else

950
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: is getting married and having kids. So that is, in

951
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: fact the opposite of rushing it is delaying, delaying adulthood,

952
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: whereas straight people are so desperate to have sex at

953
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: the they're just like I have to like just strake men,

954
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: or just like if I'm not jerking off, I'm not living.

955
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: So I guess in that sense, you could argue that

956
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: rushing to adulthood is straight. In a different sense, you

957
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: could argue that rushing to adulthood in the sense that like, oh,

958
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: let's say you're a little queer precocious kid and you're

959
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: like just like lonely and into books, that's also a

960
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: form of rushing because you're like trying to be more

961
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: of a grown up. I don't know, what do you think.

962
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 2: I think it's more of like I don't necessarily think

963
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: of that as rushing to grow up. I'm more thinking

964
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: of the Russian to grow up as like, like the

965
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: only reason I would think it was the queer side

966
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: of it would be like you like want to prove

967
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 2: to everyone that like just because you're gay doesn't mean

968
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: you're like not like serious. You're not a serious person,

969
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: so you would like sort of like graduate college and

970
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: like put that painting hobby aside and work and consult

971
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 2: now to prove that, like you're not stupid, you have

972
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars.

973
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: Well, I also think that's related to, you know, obviously rushing.

974
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: As we said, you're running from something rather than to something.

975
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: And I do think a part of the queer experience

976
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: occasionally is that you are running from some form you know,

977
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: until you accept yourself and you are a beautiful person,

978
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: you're running from some form of shame, some form of

979
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: self loathing, some form of like internal closetedness. And I

980
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: do think that often is what is like the fire

981
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: under people's asses that makes them immediately go into consulting,

982
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like there is something it's like, well,

983
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: if I can't be normal, then I'm gonna be rich.

984
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 4: And like, to me, that's like that maybe a queer

985
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 4: person at the center of that narrative, but the narrative

986
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 4: is hard or normative by definition.

987
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, damn.

988
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: I definitely was like the closeted one who was like,

989
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 2: maybe if I can get really successful by twenty three,

990
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 2: able to tell me I'm closeted.

991
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about this with Vanessa Bayer when

992
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: we were talking about gay people in gay students and

993
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: student government, it's like if I can't be straight, I'm

994
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: going to be president.

995
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 4: I was literally president of my class junior and senior

996
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 4: year exactly, because it's like it was just like so uncomfortable,

997
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 4: and I feel like it's like straighter to not rush

998
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 4: in middle school and high school because you're like meeking

999
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 4: out and you're like you're actually on script, you know

1000
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: what I mean, And whereas I felt like me and

1001
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 4: my best friends we were like, let's leave so we

1002
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 4: can write our script, you know what I mean. Oh

1003
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 4: my gosh. My best friend Daniel was like president of

1004
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 4: National Honor Society, and it was just kind of like

1005
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 4: we're sort of writing a script from these roles because

1006
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 4: we are not being cast for the roles that.

1007
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is genius. Yeah, totally, totally. Well,

1008
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: it's literally like the roles don't exist for you exactly.

1009
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 3: You know.

1010
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 1: It's sort of like when Reese Witherspoon started producing because

1011
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: she was an aging woman in Hollywood and there were

1012
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: no roles for her. She had to produce Wild and

1013
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: guess what she and she made one of the best,

1014
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: one of the best movies ever made.

1015
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: That's right. Wow, super sexy too, Yeah.

1016
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, huge shout out to Reese.

1017
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 4: Hey, Rees, we know you're listening. We loved Wild just

1018
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 4: like a sort of new opinion.

1019
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: She's always looking for she's always looking for a new ip.

1020
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: So I think we'll see she's always trying to elevate

1021
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: queer stories.

1022
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 5: Mm hmmmmmm I guess issue definitely women's stories.

1023
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah stories, Yeah, yeah, huh Okay.

1024
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 3: I have a question, Alana. Did you feel the Broad

1025
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 3: City were you? Did you feel that you were rushing

1026
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 3: to it? Yeah?

1027
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting because I'm.

1028
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: I'm realizing now, like, yeah, it's it's actually insane that

1029
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: you got you were like so successful at like twenty

1030
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,479
Speaker 2: sevenn or what however old.

1031
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally rushing. We made thirty five short films in

1032
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 4: two years.

1033
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: That is so wild, it is.

1034
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 4: We were like obsessed and desperate. It's crazy.

1035
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 3: That's crazy, Tea.

1036
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I mean about like

1037
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 4: mourning the loss of my teen years because like I

1038
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 4: wasn't I kind of like in my twenties and thirties

1039
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 4: was more like oh sex and sexual pleasure because like

1040
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 4: before that, I was like planning and planning and scheming

1041
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 4: and writing. Yeah, and then when Broad City ended, like

1042
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 4: I was twenty two when we started making this web series.

1043
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 4: We made thirty five webisodes. I was thirty two by

1044
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 4: the time we finished the TV show, which was fifty episodes,

1045
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 4: and I was like, who the fuck am I?

1046
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 5: You know, like, who am I.

1047
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 4: Outside of like writing and performing a person?

1048
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: You know, did you ever feel a tension between how

1049
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: adult and productive you had to be as a creator

1050
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: of this and also how and how you know what

1051
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:02,959
Speaker 1: I mean, and how.

1052
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 5: The character if you finish I'm just relating.

1053
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I mean, I'm sure you know what I'm

1054
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but it's like how adult you had

1055
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: to be versus how like I don't want to say immature,

1056
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: because the characters weren't immature, but how like, uh lost,

1057
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: the characters were like they were like very much like

1058
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: had these like constant sort of like entry level jobs.

1059
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: They were figuring it out. They were unlucky in love.

1060
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, I mean, I don't know what your personal

1061
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 1: life was like, but certainly professionally, both you and Abby

1062
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: were incredibly high functioning, productive people that were in a

1063
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: sense like business wise beyond their years. Were you almost

1064
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: like did you feel like a sense of like nostalgia

1065
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: for a adolescence you never like for a twenties you

1066
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: never had.

1067
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I like had like it was such a there

1068
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 4: was such a morning period after Broad City for like

1069
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 4: on many levels, but that was absolutely one of them.

1070
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 4: My husband says, I like blacked out during Odd City,

1071
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 4: and Alana Wexler is like my unconscious mind making it

1072
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: to the surface and taking the pleasure that I couldn't

1073
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 4: as a lot of Glazer because I was like very

1074
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 4: anxiously producing this thing. And you know, we made five

1075
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 4: seasons and we like had a contract for two more seasons,

1076
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 4: and we were like, we can't do this anymore. Like

1077
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 4: we have like there's no more Like I'm thinking of

1078
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 4: an assembly line and there's like no more assembly line,

1079
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It was just the edge,

1080
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 4: you know, And it was like we actually have to

1081
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 4: like stop production before we fall off the edge, you

1082
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1083
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, al was like literalizing the voodoo thing with That's

1084
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: what I was talking about. It's like you literally did

1085
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: get up every morning and you were like, what am

1086
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: I going to make my doppelganger do? Exactly exactly both

1087
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: conscious and unconscious projection of who I am and how

1088
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 1: I feel right and.

1089
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 4: It's like it was so authentic, like Abby and I

1090
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 4: really met in this scrappy comedy way and we really

1091
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 4: it was coming from us, and we named ourselves so

1092
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 4: like that almost made it more confusing the distance between

1093
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 4: the characters and our real selves, where it was like,

1094
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 4: but aren't they us and aren't we so in such

1095
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 4: control over da da da da dah. But it's like

1096
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 4: you're we were like discounting like actual God being in control,

1097
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like we were like discounting

1098
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 4: like spiritual a spiritual narrative that we couldn't couldn't see

1099
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 4: because we were so tunnel vision like I got to

1100
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 4: get to work, you know or whatever.

1101
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 5: It was like.

1102
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 4: Completely resonates with me. What you're what you're.

1103
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 3: Saying, Yeah, wow, that is so interesting.

1104
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: That is crazy thing not to go into promo mode,

1105
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: But would you say that like your desire to then

1106
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: recommit to stand up was a way to be like

1107
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: I want to be as as literally myself as possible,

1108
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: Like it's like I want to be not playing a character.

1109
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: Or is that does that not resonate?

1110
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 5: Well?

1111
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 4: It does, it does resonate. I choke. Are you having

1112
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 4: all these ticks?

1113
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: Oh?

1114
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 4: My gosh, okay, I'm like about to descend into my

1115
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 4: Grandma Harriet's giggle fit and I'm not going to do it.

1116
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 4: What you're saying, uh describes or what you're saying rings

1117
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 4: true for me at the beginning of creating this hour,

1118
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 4: but not when I like locked in because I really

1119
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 4: am in psychoanalysis, and my analyst was like saying to me,

1120
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 4: I've said this like a few times now in podcasts.

1121
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 4: I really apologized to anyone who's heard this before. But

1122
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 4: my analyst was like, you know, I was talking about

1123
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 4: how much I like couldn't stand myself right after Bread City,

1124
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 4: like how much I like fucking hated myself and stand

1125
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 4: Up but needed it, and it's like I just felt

1126
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 4: so torn and he was like, well, it's it's impersonal

1127
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, exactly, it's like so personal.

1128
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 4: It's like I'm like ripping my arm off and like

1129
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 4: leaving it on the stage and he was like, no,

1130
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 4: I said, impersonal, and I was like.

1131
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 5: Oh, bitch, you did.

1132
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 4: Okay, Well now I've got some like shit to sit

1133
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 4: in of my own. And it helped me clarify what

1134
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 4: Broad City had been. And with stand Up, it was

1135
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 4: like what I was excited about was to actually like

1136
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 4: reflect and have the capacity to reflect while I was

1137
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 4: making art, and also for it to be like a

1138
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 4: piece rather than a container for my limbs, you know

1139
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 4: what I mean. I didn't have the capacity to separate

1140
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: the contexts during Bread City. So like this, this experience

1141
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 4: of creating the hour that is human magic, touring it

1142
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 4: and filming it was so different and much more I

1143
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 4: would actually say, much more advanced, like Sam, because I

1144
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 4: was able to actually like play with it and not

1145
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 4: rush through it, really give it the space that it needed,

1146
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 4: and I like I had more. I took more pleasure

1147
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 4: in it than Broad City. Was like incredible and a

1148
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 4: miraculous experience to create and behold, but I didn't know

1149
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 4: how to take pleasure in it, and I did in

1150
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 4: this hour.

1151
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 2: Wow Wow, I love that It's some crazy for us

1152
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: to ask real questions where it's not normally.

1153
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm actually really proud of us as interviewers right now

1154
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: because we're not we usually, I would say, especially over

1155
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: the first like three or four years of the podcast,

1156
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: in almost a rude way, we would like forget to

1157
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: ask people about what they were promoting. We would be like,

1158
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: this is our show you are our guest, now tell

1159
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: us what you think is gay or straight, and then

1160
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: you'll be like, right, so I'm not getting paid for this,

1161
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: and I do have a special coming out and.

1162
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 6: We'd be like, shut up, shut.

1163
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 4: Your fucking mouth, bend over and take my pod. But

1164
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 4: I do have to say, like I really am enjoyed,

1165
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 4: like we are so genuinely discovering.

1166
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if like you know, I agree,

1167
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: I agree.

1168
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 4: Discovering in a way that we're like whoa that it's

1169
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 4: like I don't care, but it.

1170
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: Brings you so much joy when a guest like is

1171
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: on board with this sort of like collaborative theorizing, Like

1172
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: it's so fun because sometimes people don't feel like doing

1173
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: it and they like don't get that that's what it's

1174
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: just like why are you?

1175
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 4: Why are you doing this? Then?

1176
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we really appreciate it.

1177
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: I'm loving it. I'm like so in I'm going to

1178
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 4: miss you guys genuinely.

1179
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1180
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: I also was like there was a because we don't

1181
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: normally ask real questions, there was something where we were

1182
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: like doing the theorizing and I was like, wait a minute,

1183
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 2: we like along the glazers here, like I'm like, what

1184
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: are we doing?

1185
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: No, it's right. I wouldn't. You wouldn't want us to

1186
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: be like just like any other you know, just to

1187
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: be like, so, how'd you get into comedy?

1188
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 3: Right?

1189
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 4: That would be so straight.

1190
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: Wait, that would actually be iconic though.

1191
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: That would be iconic if you came up and we

1192
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: were like, so, how is UCB?

1193
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, but to get lost I have

1194
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 4: to say to like get lost in discovery together feels

1195
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 4: very queer. Yes, and I'm just like lapping it up.

1196
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 3: It's true.

1197
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, should we do final thoughts on rushing or Sam?

1198
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: Do you want to final thoughts on rushing?

1199
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 4: Yes?

1200
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 3: Final thoughts on rushing to me?

1201
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: Okay, another, I do agree that it's mostly straight. The

1202
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: one other queer thing about it is I'm thinking about

1203
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: like like rushing through the rain, Like I'm thinking of

1204
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 2: the poetry of rushing, and there is something where you're

1205
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 2: so down on your luck that it's like you because

1206
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: you're in such a sort of melodramatic space. If you're

1207
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: like rushing and you step in a puddle and you

1208
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: step in dog shit and a woman yells at you,

1209
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: like you're like there, you're you are you are in

1210
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: a narrative and yeah, you're.

1211
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 4: The main character, a char When that is queer to you,

1212
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 4: I think that part can.

1213
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: Be like it's just a self romanticize and it's like

1214
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's like I mean, it is the performance

1215
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, obviously I think there's a way

1216
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: in which the performance of Russian can be straight because

1217
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: you're being such a like business woman. But also performance

1218
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: inherently is queer of course, Like it is much more

1219
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: queer to be rushing than to be you know, like

1220
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: sitting in a church pew wearing a blazer.

1221
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: Like I think essentially we need to look at every

1222
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: single person who's rushing and be like are you self

1223
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: aware about your rushing? Are you living in a movie

1224
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: or are you thinking I just have to be there

1225
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: on time?

1226
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: Are you living out loud?

1227
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 4: Like we're talking about like different levels of rushing. I

1228
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 4: was thinking more like a businessman who's like shit people

1229
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 4: totally totally so like important or whatever. But like what's

1230
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 4: interesting about that also is like the camp of that

1231
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 4: guy where he doesn't he doesn't realize category is segative

1232
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 4: realness literally, and it's like, girl, we're imitating you, you know,

1233
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 4: what I mean like that there's like there's a camp

1234
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 4: to straightness that like it's really just about the awareness.

1235
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 4: It's all kind of campy.

1236
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It is all about the awareness that is huge, enormous.

1237
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the camunists of straightness is like doing

1238
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: the most obvious thing. It's like someone doing the most

1239
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: obvious thing and then you on the outside being like

1240
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: can you believe they're doing that? This is literally a

1241
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: bride wearing a white dress and a groom that is

1242
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: giving a toast. It's like the movies, they're doing it.

1243
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: That's what's camp about it.

1244
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1245
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: Oh god, when a movie starts out with someone rushing,

1246
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, this person is about to like have an

1247
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: amazing level or.

1248
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: His product opening montage literal.

1249
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 4: Wait, I'm having like a thought right now, Like the

1250
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 4: thing about like what you're saying about like the bride

1251
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 4: and that she's the ring of my dress and he's

1252
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 4: like making a toast. Fuck I hope I remember. The

1253
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 4: fucking thing is that it's like back to the la

1254
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 4: thing is like oh my gosh, okay, oh my gosh.

1255
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 4: It's like there's this contrived discovery where like the camp

1256
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 4: of straightness is like we're doing it, We're really giving

1257
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 4: the toast, and it's like, you mean like the forty

1258
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 4: million other toasts that we're in this year in the

1259
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 4: same fashion, And it's like lack of capacity to self discover,

1260
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 4: whereas like the queerness is almost like the genuine, true

1261
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 4: new discovery, which is like also what you say about performance,

1262
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 4: and it's not even like who are you fucking? It's

1263
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 4: like how how brand new? How how vulnerable are you

1264
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 4: able to be to be brand new in this moment?

1265
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the discovery is key. I think the instinct

1266
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: to want something new is queer, and the instinct to

1267
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: like basically like recreate what you've seen is straight.

1268
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 4: It's like that's right, that's right.

1269
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: Huh huh.

1270
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: Stunningly, I think I've really covered rushing.

1271
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 4: I think I'm never gonna like this is a.

1272
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: Alana, I'm never gonna forget this day.

1273
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 4: I'm changing conversation because I honestly like when I rush

1274
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 4: and I think I'm my dumb shit is so important.

1275
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's like this is a I'm changed.

1276
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think December sixth will go down

1277
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: as as important, if not more important, than January sixth.

1278
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: And say, January seventh, when this comes out, is gonna

1279
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: be even more important?

1280
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 4: Right? That's right? Then both dates combined.

1281
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: Whow amazing? Should we do our final segment?

1282
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 2: I think that's an amazing idea. A lot of our

1283
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: final segments called shout outs, and in this segment, we

1284
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 2: shout out in the Grand Street oral tradition anything that

1285
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: we are enjoying. Imagine at CRL two thousand and one

1286
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 2: and you are in Times Square shouting out to your

1287
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 2: squad back home.

1288
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 3: About anything that you like. We make them up on the.

1289
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: Spot, come up on the spot. I just thought it

1290
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: was mine.

1291
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 3: Do you have one? Do you want to go first? Story?

1292
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 3: I go, yeah, we'll go first.

1293
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: Okay, what's up freaks?

1294
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 3: Some losers?

1295
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to novellas. I'm

1296
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: talking novels that are like one hundred pages long.

1297
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 3: You know you.

1298
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stand here and be insecure about Sometimes

1299
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: I can't deal with four hundred pages. And if someone

1300
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: else said that to me, I'd say, oh my god,

1301
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: you stupid anti intellectual, sit your ass down, put that

1302
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: phone away, and read War and Peace. But you know what,

1303
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: I have to be honest with myself. Sometimes I don't

1304
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: have the patience for it. Not always, but sometimes. And

1305
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: when you get a book that is ninety to one

1306
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pages long, are you kidding me? You

1307
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: can read that in one afternoon. It is edited down

1308
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: to the bare bones. You're not reading fucking fifteen page

1309
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: descriptions of rain. There's a time in a place for that.

1310
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: There was not having a place for that, but guess

1311
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 1: what it's not when I am in a rush, a

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Speaker 1: call back to the to the topic of the episode,

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Speaker 1: and so I want to especially shout out. I'm currently

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Speaker 1: reading a book called The Pilgrim Hawk by Glenway Westcott.

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Speaker 1: It is about it all takes place in one afternoon

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Speaker 1: in one house I in heaven. I don't have to memory.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to look at a map of Lord

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Speaker 1: of the Rings characters, I don't have to look at

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Speaker 1: a family tree. I just have to know four characters.

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Speaker 1: And of course the hawk that a woman carries around

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Speaker 1: that is kind of an important of the story. So

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what happens and shout out

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Speaker 1: to Novella's.

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Speaker 2: Who, Well, that's groundbreaking, Okay, I think I think I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go I think I have one, well I have

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Speaker 2: I have one and a half. Okay, okay, wait, I

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Speaker 2: gotta remember what the second thing is called. Okay, this

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Speaker 2: is going to be a completely disparate two parter.

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Speaker 3: Ready, what is up? Freaks, losers and perverts are on

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Speaker 3: the globe.

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Speaker 2: I want to give a huge shout out. That's right

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Speaker 2: to my dentist. I yesterday got dental procedure done, part

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Speaker 2: one of getting a crown. I have never had one before.

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Speaker 2: And I said, I said to him, I'm scared, I'm nervous,

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Speaker 2: and he said, don't worry.

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Speaker 3: I got you.

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Speaker 2: And when I tell you, this man had me, I

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Speaker 2: felt so taken care of.

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Speaker 3: I do want to say.

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Speaker 2: I know it's hacked for me to say, but there

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Speaker 2: was something sexual about just giving up control and letting

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Speaker 2: this man grind my tooth down to nothing. I felt trusted.

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Speaker 2: I felt like I was looking into his eyes and.

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Speaker 3: He kept saying, are you okay? Thumbs up? Thumbs up?

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Speaker 3: Are you okay?

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Speaker 1: Don't forget to free?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, this is amazing.

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Speaker 2: I love this doctor and this dentist, and the damn

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Speaker 2: office is so humble, and the you know where the

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Speaker 2: leather on the chair is cracking and you're like, ugh,

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Speaker 2: this is a lived in office, not some of these

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Speaker 2: fancy ringl like camera offices. This is a real fucking

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Speaker 2: dentist and he is gonna inject me with whatever and

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Speaker 2: just grind my teeth to shit. I love this man

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Speaker 2: and he can hold me as tight as he wants.

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Speaker 2: And secondly, and of course, the most edgy shout out

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Speaker 2: yet is I have to shout out Cozy Little Christmas

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Speaker 2: by Katy Perry.

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Speaker 3: I'd of this.

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Speaker 2: It came on when I was in a CBS and

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Speaker 2: I said, this song is so good and I cannot

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Speaker 2: stop hearing it and loving it.

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Speaker 3: Cozy Little Christmas Katy Perry.

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Speaker 2: I know this is coming out after Christmas, but mark

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Speaker 2: my words, this is Christmas cannon from now on.

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Speaker 3: Cozy Little Christmas Katy Perry. WHOA wow.

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Speaker 1: Literally never heard of that song in my life.

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Speaker 3: Well, you haven't spent enough time in CBS, guys.

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Speaker 4: I wish I had gone first because those were so strong.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: But in the spirit of queer self discovery, I'm gonna try,

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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna go so okay. I do know that

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Speaker 4: I'm nervous. What's up? Creeks? And one perverse and shucking losers.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to give a shout out to hot water

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Speaker 4: first thing in the morning. A mug of hot water

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Speaker 4: first thing, Oh my gosh, gets those organs moving, loose

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Speaker 4: up everything that's going on inside. It doesn't matter if

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Speaker 4: it's dry out or if it's moist in the air.

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Speaker 4: You are moist. You are moist everywhere, and you feel

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Speaker 4: that heat. And you don't need external validation because you're

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Speaker 4: taking care of your body and your organs by keeping

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Speaker 4: them pure first thing in the morning, before you dumb

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Speaker 4: pompsins into your body for the rest of the day.

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Speaker 4: This is your one moment of peace and quiet and

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Speaker 4: you have to take your time and you cannot rush

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Speaker 4: when you drink this mug of hot water first thing

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Speaker 4: in the morning, and you are using that space and

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Speaker 4: time wisely tea reflect on what it means to be

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Speaker 4: in a body so.

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Speaker 2: Buffy you Wow, great, that was amazing.

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Speaker 3: I'd never thought of having hot water in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Do you not do coffee?

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Speaker 4: I do. It's just like when I'm being really a

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Speaker 4: really good girl, I'm having a mug of hot water

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Speaker 4: first God.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I'm definitely chugging water when I wake up but

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Speaker 2: always ice cold.

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Speaker 1: I think that in my uh very gay guy, I

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Speaker 1: think I'm gonna become one of those classic women who

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Speaker 1: get hot water with lemon after dinner.

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Speaker 3: I really see that for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you want to that dinner out?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and want to poop that

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Speaker 2: dinner out.

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Speaker 4: Feel like an elegant bitch. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: This has been an absolute delight. Alna, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for doing the pod, and tell our listeners will

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Speaker 1: more time, what your specialists called and where and when

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Speaker 1: people can stream it.

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Speaker 4: If this is coming out on January seventh, I hope

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Speaker 4: you didn't celebrate the anniversary yesterday but rather took time

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Speaker 4: to give your body healthy pleasure. You can currently watch

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Speaker 4: my so more stand up special Human Magic on Hulu

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Speaker 4: and Disney Plus worldwide for those you know, Greek and

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Speaker 4: international course listeners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah wow, Well, thank you so much for doing the pod.

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Speaker 2: This has been a real treat.

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Speaker 4: I'm honored. What a pleasure.

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