1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to ask you a question. 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 2: Real good, let's just keep it real straight sh eye 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: with no chasing. I'm gonna get a little bit rougher. 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: I'm here for it. Those who really believe in the 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 2: American process, all of us street shot, no chase. What's 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: your girl? Testlim figure out on the Black Effect podcast 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Network network what everybody is this Testlim figure? I am 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: here with a great group of gentlemen that we will 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 2: be talking to from gen Z. One of the most 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: sought after demographics here in the twenty twenty four election 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: should be a demographic that has sold after every year, 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: not just this year, but this year. Folks are really 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: interested on all levels, state level, federal level, Democrat Republican 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: of wanting to know what this particular demographic has to say. 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: In particularly they want to hear from black men. So 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: we're gonna chop it up and get to it right 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: now now. These gentlemen are in Georgia, the great State 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: of Georgia, and as we know, it is a battleground state. 19 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: On yesterday there was record turnout in first time voting. 20 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: Usually Georgia is a state that has, I guess in 21 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: recent history, been able to become a battleground because you 22 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: don't know if it's going to go Democratic Republican, and 23 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: typically folks have waited until election day where you see 24 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: the majority of that surge. But yesterday Georgia said they 25 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: got something to say in the South and so we 26 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: see record breaking turnout. So I just want to talk 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: to the gentlemen we have here on how does that feel? 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: Where are you in this campaign? Let me first start 29 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: with Darren. Let me know Darren, what's happening on the 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: ground in Georgia. How do you feel about yesterday and 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: what do we have to look forward to over the 32 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: next two or three weeks. 33 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely well, let me just start off by saying thank 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 3: you misfigure out and they get to Revolve News for 35 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: this opportunity and just hearing for the voices of the 36 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: youth and the black men of the HBCU community. I 37 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: can justly say I can say speaking from our experience 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 3: yesterday as we had a march for early voting on 39 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: the campus of Park Atlanda University, where we were able 40 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: to mobilize and encourage students and the dozens to get 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: out there at early vote after weeks in there, I 42 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: say almost months of encouraging early voter registration. So I 43 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 3: think that was a large component of it. Having so 44 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 3: many different programs, so many different organizations, so many different 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: aspects of the community come together for so long to 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: get so many more people registered to vote in a 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: way that I haven't seen it in recent years. I 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: think that heavily contributed to this large number of success 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: that we've seen in recent reports, as well as you know, 50 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 3: the amazing effort by students on the ground on the 51 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: campuses of these amazing universities such as Park Atlanta used 52 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 3: to yesterday. I have one of my fellow organizers here, 53 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: Michael Brent the fourth where you know, again we imagine 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: you go into class, you got thirty minutes to kill, 55 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: and you hear, you see people marching something that you've 56 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: only probably heard your parents and seen about in history books, 57 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 3: you know, and watching the movies, and you got to 58 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: be a part of something like that. So I think 59 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: it was the motivation and the inspiration that we are, 60 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: you know, the generation or the group that had the 61 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: power to make history with our vote, you know what 62 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So I think it's definitely exciting, and I 63 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 3: think all those different factors contribute to the level of intensity, 64 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And it can be nervous 65 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: for some like when we're going to the voting to 66 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: the polling place yesterday, some people who realized they might 67 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: need a few more time, a few more days to 68 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: make their decision, being further educated on some of the 69 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: issues and some of the tops at hand that they 70 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: would be voting on. So I definitely feel like we 71 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: have more people engaged than we ever have before on 72 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: a college level, on a community level. And then as 73 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: black men like you said, we I'm seeing and you know, 74 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: as I'm twenty two years old, a certain level of 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: connectivity across the board that doesn't matter whether it's between 76 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: the age, between stature or status. We all understand, you know, 77 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: we're fighting for the same goals at the end of 78 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: the day. 79 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: Well, Michael, he said, you are an organizer. I always 80 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: tell people, don't get it twisted. The media is not 81 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: my primary job. My primary job is an organizer, and 82 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: I believe in being on the ground. Michael, what do 83 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: the lines look like on yesterday, Because a lot of 84 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: the clips that we saw were in Cobb County that showed, 85 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: you know, to be honest, with you, a lot of 86 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: Trump supporters, a lot of white folks. We didn't see 87 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: a lot of color dash through there because you know, 88 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: we have to just depend on the clips that the media, 89 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: you know, pushes out. So what county were you in 90 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: yesterday and what did those lines look like? 91 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, we were in Bolton County at Flipper and m 92 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: which is the new voting site for all the students 93 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: in the AUC and you know, they were excited to 94 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 4: see us, to say the least. I mean, there was 95 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: a lot of students that we had brought, you know, 96 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 4: again in the dozens. And I think that's what's really important. 97 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: As you know, you mentioned the media on the showcase 98 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 4: of certain parts of you know, what the voting minds 99 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: will be looking like. And I think that that's interesting 100 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: to said at least. I mean, early voting has notoriously 101 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 4: been seen as a tool for a particular party, and 102 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: it has highlighted some of the disparities that we have 103 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 4: within our voting in our electoral system period that anyone 104 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 4: can kind of dem the light of having more people vote. 105 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 4: There's a particular side that is encouraging people to register, 106 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: that is trying to garner more support while others are 107 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 4: just trying to scare away others from even participating at all. 108 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: And I think that's what's really consequential about yesterday and 109 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 4: seeing a large turnout like. 110 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: The ass It was a large turnout. So were there 111 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: lines like, were there literally lines in Fulton County? Okay? 112 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, one hundred and ten percent of lines 113 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 4: in Fulton County. 114 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: So to Sean, let me ask you. You know, there's 115 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 2: been a lot of conversation on reaching out two black men. 116 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, I think there should have been more, 117 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: could have been done earlier. I know a lot of 118 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: things have been going on behind the scenes, but now 119 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: it's a little bit more visible. Is it too little, 120 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: too late with the black man agenda or black male 121 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: agenda that was rolled out or do you think the 122 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: timing is just the right timing. 123 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 5: Thank you for that question. First, I just want to, 124 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 5: like I said, thank you for just putting me on 125 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 5: this amazing platform to talk about this subject. But I 126 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 5: definitely feel as though it is never too late because 127 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 5: there's still early voting registration that can still go on. 128 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 5: So I feel like it's still a great opportunity for 129 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 5: that to come out because we can still see that 130 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 5: and want to be involved in anything of that, and 131 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 5: I feel like that's going to encourage black men to 132 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 5: get that be like Okay, now I'm going to come 133 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 5: out and vote because you know, they see the good 134 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 5: work that Aama Harrison is doing and it's like, Okay, 135 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 5: let me come out and vote. So I definitely feel 136 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 5: like he's never too. 137 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: Late, Isaiah. Have people literally been have you guys been organizing? Like? 138 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: Has people been? Because I've been one of the ones 139 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: screaming the top of the lungs that need to put 140 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: more money on the ground. I want to be honest 141 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: about that. More organizations need to have the money and 142 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: the fuel and all the things that you are volunteering 143 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: to do on your own. I'm gonna be honest. I 144 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: think there's been a lack of funding on the ground 145 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: in particularly in Georgia, and I've been criticizing the campaign 146 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: for that. You guys have just been doing this just because, 147 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: but this is not just about doing something just because 148 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: people need the resources and actually the order in order 149 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: to do it. So how have you got involved, Isaiah? 150 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: Like who's been knocking on your door besides you guys self? 151 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: Motivating yourself. What organizations have knocked on your door has said, hey, 152 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: come on, get on board, get involved. We're gonna make 153 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: sure you have at least a piece of piece or 154 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: a donut or something, you know, lunch or something like 155 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: Has there been any organizations that have reached out directly 156 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: to you and others like you? 157 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: Hi again. 158 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: I am Isaiah Mendozah Smith, a junior Criminal Justice Majua 159 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: with the minor and psychology from Los Angeles, California, and 160 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: I also appreciate this opportunity to speak on behalf of 161 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: the black men in our community. And I'm a student 162 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: that lives off campus, so when I'm at home, there's 163 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: like maybe one lady. I know, she always comes in 164 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: our gated community and she knocks on everybody's door and 165 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: she gives off fires and stuff like that and talks 166 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: about the events that they have or the areas that 167 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: they meet up to discuss voting and stuff like that. 168 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: As far as on campus, I know that there are 169 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: several organizations, one including MENCAU. There is a political organization 170 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: on campus as well that sets up a table and 171 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: I know they were also going around speaking to the 172 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: students on campus. You know, trying to get people to 173 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: register to vote and making sure that they do that 174 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: by having just little incentives and stuff like that on 175 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: campus that the students can use to really motivate themselves 176 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: and those around them, because there is a lack of 177 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: funding and motivation when it comes to black males in 178 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: the community, especially on the topic of voting. So I 179 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: think that those organized positions create a good impact on 180 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: our campus. 181 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: Okay, well, that's fair of the shout out to the 182 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: one lady. Literally one is going around or I mean again, 183 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: they might want to start getting a little bit more 184 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: than one. You know, when we talk about Georgia, we're 185 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 2: talking about just ten, twelve, fifteen thousand. You know, they 186 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: can make a difference. So we're going to see, you know, 187 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: in the next two to three weeks, you know, if 188 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: if more engagement will take place. And again I'm going 189 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: to keep saying, you know, over and over that if 190 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: any candidate will whether it be Republican or Democrat, whoever 191 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: it is, federal, state, local, whatever I do, I don't 192 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: want them so dependent upon you guys, you know, doing 193 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 2: the work yourselves. That's very important. But people need resources, 194 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: people need gas money, people need to be able to 195 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: go from place to place. And I think for me, 196 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 2: my personal opinion, there's been a lot of work online digital, 197 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 2: but a lack of to me resources available. And I'm 198 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: on going by you know, what I've seen in Atlanta, 199 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: and you know, I don't see a lot of signs 200 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: on the West side of Atlanta, and I think there 201 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: can be more. But it is good to know, you 202 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: know that the college campuses, that you guys are doing 203 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: the work on your own, you know, and getting involved, 204 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: you know, on your own. I'll ask you this and 205 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: I'll just show this out of whoever wants to answer. 206 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: President Obama made comments about black men, some black men 207 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: who feel like they can't vote for a woman. Now, 208 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: there was some folks that said he wasn't talking about 209 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: all black men because obviously the majority of black men 210 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: do vote Democratic for Democrats. But this is not about 211 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: just voting for Democrats. This is about, you know, actually 212 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: voting for a woman. The majority of black Democrats men 213 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 2: voted for Hillary Complintant, But he wasn't talking about the majority. 214 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: And a lot of folks keep saying, you know, not 215 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: all black men. We know that there's never not all 216 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: anything of one group. He was talking about those who 217 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: are not engaged, those who do not want to be 218 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: a part of the process. What do you guys, And 219 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys have and into some of those 220 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: some of those men who have said, you know, I'm 221 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: not really feeling it for whatever reason, what has been 222 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: Tell me, whoever wants to jump out there and tell 223 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: me what that interaction has been like for the black 224 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: men that say, you know, we I don't feel a 225 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: part of the process, or or what has been their 226 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: number one concern and how has that conversation taken place? 227 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 3: Definitely, I think, uh, it's like you said, it's a 228 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: it's a common thing that we run into, whether it's 229 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 3: this selection like you always have that that that oddball 230 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: right in the mix, And I think it's a it's 231 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: just a simple understanding and a conversation where you have 232 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 3: to understand, we no longer have the the We can 233 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: no longer afford to not be engaged, to not be involved, 234 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: to not be informed on the certain issues that matter, 235 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 3: and wherever your biases may be, wherever they may lie, 236 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: whether they be gender or base race, this is a 237 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: fight for our lives. This is uh an aspect that 238 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: it affects our rights entirely and totality. So whether it 239 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: whether your decid decision is to not vote at all, 240 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: you will face the consequences of that and your community 241 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 3: will as well. And I think it's something as black 242 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: men that we've had that we that it's almost something 243 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: that you instinctively born with and as you grow up 244 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 3: you realize in a larger sense that you know the 245 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: way that the world falls on us. Often man feel 246 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: like that at times, and so you have to make 247 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: the decisions regardless of if you like the person the most, 248 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: but that will that will benefit your community. So it's 249 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 3: you know, really trying to find a common piece of 250 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: ground with these black men that are slightly out of 251 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: touch or it might be you know, ill informed, and 252 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 3: to let them know that their voice matters, their vote matters, 253 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: and regardless of the sense, this is larger than all 254 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 3: of us at this point. 255 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: But what about those who say, because I know the 256 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: answer is, you know, they may just be ill informed 257 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: and may not have the information. But what about they say, no, 258 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: I'm informed, I'm informed, I'm just a conservative like we are. 259 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: We gonna recognize, like some people are just concerned whether 260 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: it's black men or black women. It's not a matter 261 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: of oh, you just don't have enough information. No, I 262 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: have the information. I'm just the to go in a 263 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: different way. You know. Somebody tell me what that conversation 264 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 2: has been like, because everybody, y'all realize everybody don't have to, like, 265 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 2: you know, go in the same direction. So I'm wanting 266 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: to know. Has anybody had any of those conversations where 267 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: they say, no, I respect everything you're saying, but I'm 268 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: voting for conservative policies. Let's take Harris and Trump out 269 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: of it. I'm talking about those who are not so 270 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: much the personality but the conservative principles that some black people, 271 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: black men and women may have have. Any of you 272 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: had any of those conversations. 273 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 5: Yes, I know, Well I don't know smigers. I know, 274 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: for speaking for myself, I'm from North Carolina and a 275 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 5: lot of the times, as you can see, that's more 276 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 5: of a conservative state. So a lot of times I'm 277 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 5: dealing with people from older generations who sometimes don't have 278 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 5: the same viewpoints as me. So I know for a 279 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 5: lot of older black men, especially like within my hometown, 280 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 5: there are big conservatives and they're saying, like, we don't 281 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 5: agree with certain laws, because of like let's say, speaking 282 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 5: for the abortion laws, there's some of them that feel 283 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 5: like abortion should not be legal, like abortion should not 284 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 5: be legal at all. So they're very against that aspects 285 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 5: within the Democratic Party, so they can sit they stick 286 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 5: to their conservative like viewpoints and stuff like that. And 287 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 5: I feel like it's just all about a conversation. But 288 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 5: me personally, like, I'm not trying to sway anybody's like 289 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 5: point of view. Whatever your point of view is, your 290 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 5: point of view. It's just all about educating yourself and 291 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 5: having your platform and standing within that and don't let 292 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 5: anybody try to swage you from that. As long as 293 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 5: you're educating yourself, that's all that matters. And yeah, it's 294 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 5: all about the impact that you want to bring to 295 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 5: this world. 296 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: M I like that anybody else. 297 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: I was gonna mention. You know, as a student of politics, 298 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: I study political science. I've been a political science manager 299 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 4: for the past four years now, so my senior year. 300 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: You know, I've worked for the Democratic Party of Georgia 301 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 4: as an internal a fellow. I've been in these different spaces, 302 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: so you know, there's a luck that I have and 303 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 4: that a privilege that I have in that too. See 304 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 4: these different dynamics that we're discussing and study them and 305 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: really focus on the reality, which is the rough count 306 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 4: from twenty twenty was eighty percent of black men voted 307 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 4: for Joe Biden. Where do we see that twenty percent 308 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: and do we say that they don't matter? That is 309 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 4: simply the wrong thing to do. If we're trying to 310 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 4: discuss where these black men are wrong in their conservative values, 311 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 4: that's a different conversation because I think one thing that 312 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 4: people are negating is that President Obama did not mention 313 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: something that was entirely wrong. That do we do have 314 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 4: some black men who do not respect black women as 315 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: much as they should? And this is an ongoing conversation. 316 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 4: We can look at any song from the past thirty years. 317 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: The only one that uplooks back black women as much 318 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 4: is a song where Tupac talking about respecting mothers, protecting 319 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 4: our daughters. And that's one song that's always being brought up. 320 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 4: But in regards to other songs, are not hearing them. 321 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 4: It's not the same to them. We're looking at this 322 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 4: conversation and we're saying, how do we have black men 323 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 4: understand these different dynamics, and we as you mentioned this 324 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 4: figure out some of them. They do. They are getting 325 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: this information, they are informed. Could it be misinformation? Could 326 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: it be disinformation. That's a different conversation. I think in 327 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 4: this conversation, respecting somebody's values and what they believe them, 328 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: but pushing them, I think everybody deserves to be pushed. 329 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: I'm very upfront with where I stand with things, because 330 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 4: there shouldn't be confusion about where I stand on issues 331 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: that affect black women. When I see black women being 332 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 4: the highest rate of being murdered by men in our community, 333 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 4: when I see these high rates of black women being 334 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: killed just for giving birth, I look at that and 335 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 4: I said, that's a real issue. When I think we 336 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: should do X y Z, I think we need to 337 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: put more money into healthcare. I think we need to 338 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 4: make sure we expand these different rights expand. And I 339 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 4: hear another black man saying we shouldn't do that because 340 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 4: of some physically conservative values that they hold. I have 341 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 4: to question, have you been thinking about this as thoroughly 342 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 4: as should think you have? And I think that's the 343 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: correct way to go about it. Is the push. And 344 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: some black men they don't like being pushed on these 345 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: specific issues. But I think that's the conversation we need 346 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 4: to have. As you mentioned earlier in the call, you know, 347 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 4: it's great that this is a call full of black men, 348 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 4: you know, And I think that's what's super important is 349 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 4: that I think oftentimes we know this that black men 350 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 4: have a different reaction to other black men, confunding them 351 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 4: on specific things, and we shouldn't be afraid of that confrontation. 352 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 4: It shouldn't be you got to have your grandma, your 353 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 4: aunty and your cousin Keisha, and they're trying to tell 354 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 4: you why you should respect them having their own bodily autonomy. 355 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 4: It should be your cousin, Craig. It probably needs to 356 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 4: be that person telling you, bro, come on. So I 357 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 4: think that's the way that we should really look at 358 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 4: this and how us as black men are conversing with 359 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 4: each just how we're trying to find the different the differences, yes, 360 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 4: and make them clear, but appreciate each other, while also 361 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 4: saying you should probably think about that a little bit more. 362 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, So what you're saying is so soogyny is real, 363 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: and I appreciate you recognizing that and saying it should 364 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: be men. And I agree that this is a conversation 365 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: with black men. It's every day on every podcast, you know, 366 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: black women, black men, black because this is about it, 367 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: you know, And I can't wait till the election is 368 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: over so we can really unpack this. This is deeper 369 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: than just somebody's conservative or liberal values. This is a 370 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: relationship that black men have with black women, their mothers, 371 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 2: their sisters. So when people say, oh, this is just 372 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: like you don't you want to do X y Z 373 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: for your mother, Well, how do you assume there is 374 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 2: a healthy relationship between the moments? How do you assume 375 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: there's a healthy relationship between the systems. And because there 376 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: is so much work that we have to do in 377 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 2: our inter relationships and the healing that needs to take 378 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 2: place through various generations, this is much much deeper, like 379 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: they say, deeper than Nino Brown, deeper in the wrap. 380 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: It's not just about somebody's ideology. If we're gonna really 381 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: be for real about this. Because although you mentioned Tupac, 382 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: who's my favorite, I consider myself his widow. But when 383 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: you said, you know, he talks about lifting black women 384 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: up and keep your head up, But he also talked 385 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: about my mother was a dope fiend mother and a 386 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: crack fiend mother, And so he talks about the dynamics 387 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: between having pain and resentment and what he possibly could 388 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: have went through as a child but still maintaining the 389 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: respect for her as his mother. Every man has not 390 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: been able to make that healing transition or to see 391 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: the good and the bad. And what about the pain 392 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 2: when she was in the streets and she was on crack. 393 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: What did he have to experience? So these are the 394 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: things that we talk about in the black community that 395 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: is showing up in this election, and so I'm looking 396 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: forward to having the conversation as after the election on 397 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: we already know the majority of black men will vote Democratic. 398 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: We got that, but this is not about the majority. 399 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: This is about the margins. And this is also about 400 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: where do we stand, you know, as it's just in 401 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: relationship to each other. And I do appreciate the pushback, 402 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: and I tell people, matter of fact, my training class, 403 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: push the line we're doing one on Friday politics. Until 404 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: something happens, people need to be pushed. But I also 405 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 2: believe that even through the pushing that those who are 406 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: just truly saying this is my ideology and this is 407 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: where I stand. I also respect that as well because 408 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 2: by and large overall black people. Black voters are typically 409 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: moderate and lean somewhat you know, conservative on a lot 410 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 2: of issues. So I think what you're saying is right, 411 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: Push push, push, and make sure that that person is 412 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: really thinking about that in all of the ways. But 413 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: I think if we're going to be honest about it, 414 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 2: everybody may not be motivated by, you know, the things 415 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: that you mentioned people getting politics to be motivated by 416 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 2: certain things. I'll just say, in my in my generation, 417 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: a ninety four crime bill completely pretty much destroyed an 418 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: entire generation. So when you're talking to men in their 419 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: forties about the Democrat Party and mass incarceration, depending on 420 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: where you're talking and what region you're talking to in 421 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 2: California and LA, they're going to have a different opinion 422 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 2: on what motivates them when you see an entire generation 423 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: locked up through the ninety four crime bill that Joe 424 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: Biden wrote. So I think it's important as we're having 425 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 2: this conversation, regions, generations, demographics, relationship with each other, all 426 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: of those things play a part, and it's showing up 427 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: in this election. So I'm glad you pointed that out. 428 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: Any closing thoughts, guys, as we get out of here. 429 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: I do appreciate you stopping by the chat with me. 430 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: There are what are we two three weeks left? I 431 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: want to go down the list and just kind of 432 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: give me some closing thoughts on what you want people 433 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: to know. And this is not necessarily a pitch a 434 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 2: pitch on getting involved, or a pitch on you need 435 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: to do X Y Z, because I think, Jenna, we 436 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: have to be careful with that too, you know, telling 437 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: people what they should and should I do, at least 438 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: for me, I try to empower people. But I want 439 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 2: to know what do you want America to know or 440 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: the campaign, or what people should know about your view 441 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: your lens as we close this up on that and 442 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,959 Speaker 2: that could be areas of critique, areas of where they 443 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: need to get better, areas of you know, what you 444 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: think is critical that they should know about Georgia, just 445 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: whatever it is that you want on your closing thoughts. 446 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to go down the list and give each 447 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: one of you one minute. 448 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 3: Darien, thank you, and I would just say as closing 449 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 3: thoughts and like you said, not motivating, not swaying, and 450 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: calling the action, because I feel like there is we've said, 451 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 3: I've seen so much talk in my lifetime, and I 452 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 3: and I and I've been blessed to be a part 453 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 3: of many actions. But I feel as if there's always 454 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: there's always more that can be done, And I feel 455 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: as if, you know, don't count us out, don't count 456 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 3: us as black men out, don't count us as HBCU 457 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 3: students out, don't count us as the youth out. Because 458 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 3: more than us going out and changing the things that 459 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 3: we can no longer accept, it is it is getting 460 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 3: increasingly closer to the time in which we will be 461 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 3: seeking and taking these positions, and we will create the 462 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 3: world that we were supposed and we were promised to 463 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: be living in. So I just want you know, for 464 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 3: as long as we are continuing to fight, you know 465 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, As far as long as we continue 466 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: to heal and build a community, do not stop. Do 467 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 3: not do as tired some as it can get, as 468 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 3: fearful as it may be, stay united. All it takes 469 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 3: is three to four like minded individuals, and you can 470 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: make history. You can make something happen like it was 471 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 3: amazing yesterday to have the energy and be belifted by 472 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 3: my asked us. Is in a sense that we were 473 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: fighting for a cause that was right and something that 474 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: was bigger for than ourselves. And like you said, it 475 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 3: goes beyond just the simple beliefs of Democrat or Republican. 476 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 3: You know, it oftentimes boils down to what's good and evil. 477 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 3: So just continue to be motivated, continue to fight, and 478 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 3: always look for opportunities to make change. 479 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Isaiah. 480 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: My last closing words, I would say that the closer 481 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: and closer that we get to the time, the point 482 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: in time where we're going to see what our country 483 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: is about to turn into, the more and more people 484 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: are going to realize or people are starting to realize 485 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: that it's not just blue versus red. It's life or 486 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: death for a lot of people in our communities and 487 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: on this planet. And I want everybody to just really 488 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: make sure that they do their research and they know 489 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: who and what they're voting for, regardless of race, regardless 490 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: of gender, regardless of what color of the map they're on, 491 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: regardless of where they're from. Let your vote matters because 492 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: it is impacting an entire nation. It's not just impacting 493 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: your personal opinions or your view on one specific community 494 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: based off of a racial group, or based off of 495 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: a physical identity or based off of a sexual identity. 496 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: It's the lives of the people that you see and 497 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: interact with every day. So the people that aren't registered 498 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: to vote and the people that are thinking about, you 499 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: know what they're voting for. I just want everybody to 500 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: make sure that they're fully aware of the power their 501 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: vote holds. 502 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much to Sean. 503 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 5: Closing thoughts, I would just like to, like Darien said, 504 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 5: I would just like to encourage everyone to let your 505 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 5: voice be heard. I feel like we all have our opinions, 506 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 5: and what makes somebody else's opinion greater than yours. If 507 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 5: you're not voting, you're not letting that opinion be heard. 508 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 5: So I just encourage everyone to please go out there 509 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 5: and vote, no matter what side you are voting for, 510 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 5: just go out there and vote and let your voice 511 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 5: be heard. Because if you're onet complain about something, you 512 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 5: can't let that impact happen and you didn't vote, or 513 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 5: you're just kind of complain about it, what impact did 514 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 5: you try to do to get that change that you 515 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 5: want to see. So I just want to encourage everybody 516 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 5: to exercise that right that you have as an American 517 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 5: citizen to go vote, and I'm just yeah, I'm very 518 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 5: excited about the future. 519 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: Michael Close adults, Well, I wanted to mention this figure out. 520 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 4: Thank you for having us. You know, this is a 521 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 4: phenomenal opportunity, and we're grateful for making this be a possibility. 522 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 4: My last closing thoughts would have to be, of course, 523 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 4: to vote, but the rationale behind it should be that 524 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 4: you're your best advocate. You're the best player on your 525 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 4: own team. Lebron's not going to bench himself. Line on 526 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 4: Messi'm not going to bench himself. Serena Williams wouldn't bench herself. 527 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 4: You shouldn't vne yourself and sit down and think I'm 528 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 4: going to let another player take over. I'm going to 529 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 4: let some other players take over. And if we win 530 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 4: the game, lose the game, who knows. If you're your 531 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 4: best advocate, you're your best player. You have to utilize yourself, 532 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: mobilized and really push out the efforts to other people. 533 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: This is a very important time. This country is going 534 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 4: through a lot. Whether you blue it's in a good 535 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 4: way or in a negative way, it's going So this 536 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 4: is our time, this is our moment to stand up 537 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 4: and rise up and stand for something, to fall for 538 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 4: anything is Malcolm XA, and really persuade and push ourselves 539 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: to highlight the issues that we care about and find 540 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 4: ways to solve them. You know, we have a large community, 541 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 4: a community that's very diverse in its own way, and 542 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 4: I think that if we're going to be talking about it, 543 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 4: we got to be about and in this case, right now, 544 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 4: for the next three weeks, it's about voting, and it's 545 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 4: about having those conversations about the policies and implementing them. 546 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 4: How are we're going to function as a country that 547 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 4: as a people in a community moving forward no matter 548 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 4: who's in the office for the next four years. 549 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: All right, Jim, I want to thank you again for 550 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: your time. This has been Tesla and figure out. As 551 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: we wrap up this election year, we wanted to make 552 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 2: sure that we heard directly from young black men in 553 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: our community who are not just sitting on the sidelines 554 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 2: but making an effort doing the work, being the walk 555 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 2: behind the talk. I want to thank you for checking 556 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: us out. Peace. 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