1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: The volume. This is Straight Fire with Jason MacIntyre. What 2 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: is up Straight firefam HiT's me Jason McIntyre Straight Fire 3 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: for Wednesday, July twelfth. Hope everyone enjoyed a thrilling MLB 4 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: All Star Game last night. I enjoyed it. I also 5 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: had to spray my yard because apparently there was a 6 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: raccoon that nearly had an incident with my dog. Late 7 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Saturday night, I went to a buddy's house to watch UFC. 8 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: I come back, I'm walking the dog and my dog's 9 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: feisty with the bushes right near our house, and all 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden, my dog starts diving in the bush 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: and I hear this growl. That's not my dog. And 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: I look under and I see these beady eyes, and 13 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: I was like, buddy, let's get out of here. And 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: then I, you know, hung around, hung around. I'm like, 15 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: it's not a skunk. It's gotta be a raccoon. So 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: I had to get all this raccoon spray. And that was, 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: you know, the bulk my Tuesday night thrilling stuff. I know, 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: you guys you love to hear about hashtag dad life, 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: but we have a couple interesting topics here. Today one 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: NFL and then Zion's weight problem. Tough to not eat 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: when you're making twenty million bucks a year, Zion, what 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: are we talking about? But we got to start with 23 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, because you know, he's the quarterback in the 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings thirteen and four last year. Sure they lost 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: in the playoffs to Danny Dimes, but thirteen to four, 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins statistically, by any metric you want, he was 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback in the league. Top ten. So 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: his receiver, Justin Jefferson, aka the best Gritty in the league, 29 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: went out and gave an interview where he was asked 30 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: his top five quarterbacks in the NFL. He said number 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: five Josh Allen, number four, Jalen Hurts, number three, Joe Burrow, 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: number two Aaron Rodgers, and number one Patrick Mahomes. And 33 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: during the interview, Justin Jefferson says this matter of factly, 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: like he's not in the locker room with Kirk Cousins 35 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: for six months out of the year. And of course 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: this sparked a debate mostly among me and about a 37 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: bunch of people that are angry at me. And I 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: was like, bad job by Justin Jefferson. You got to 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: name your guy, Kirk Cousins one of the top five 40 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league, and everybody said, well, why he's not. 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: I said, ah, by any measure last year, last year, 42 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: we're not talking career. Last year, Kirk Cousins was a 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: better quarterback than Aaron Rodgers. You can't find me one 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: metric that says Rogers was better. Pro Football focus and 45 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: advanced analytics, football outsiders, completion percentage, anything you want. Kirk 46 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: Cousins had it on Aaron Rodgers. So don't tell me 47 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: Rogers was the top five quarterback last year. Now you 48 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: could go and argue, well, you know, Dak Prescott's better 49 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: than Kirk, and that's not the question. Trevor Lawrence, is 50 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: he better than Kirk? I don't know already. Maybe I 51 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: don't know he will be. But right now, last season, 52 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: did Lawrence play better than Kirk Cousins, And again, the 53 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: numbers don't say Lawrence did. So my issue with this 54 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: is if somebody asks you about the best in the league, 55 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: you are almost contractually obligated as a teammate, as a 56 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: good soldier, to pump up your guys, even if it 57 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: ain't true. You've got to now. I'm telling you straight up, No, 58 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is not a top five quarterback in the NFL. 59 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: Is he top ten? That's up to the i of 60 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: the beholder. He's on the fringe based on last year's stats. 61 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: Is his career better than Rogers? Absolutely not. But last 62 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: year he was better than Rogers, So should he be 63 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: in over Rogers? Certainly? But my issue with Justin Jefferson 64 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: is I think you've got to lie to pump up 65 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: your guy, even if you don't believe he's top five. 66 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: Now a lot of people are gonna say that is stupid, 67 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: That is reductive logic, That makes no sense. Why lie, 68 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: keep it real, keep it one hundred, as the kids 69 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: like to say, here's my problem with that. Kirk Cousins 70 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: already has a bit of an inferiority complex. Right, Not right. 71 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: He can't play in primetime. He's I think one in 72 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: three in the playoffs in his career. He's not like, 73 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: the guy's not going to the Hall of Fame. I 74 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: don't think he's leading you to a super Bowl. We 75 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: know that based on his contract. The Vikings just drafted 76 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 1: a quarterback, probably his final year in Minnesota. But that's all. 77 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: Besides the point, Justin Jefferson is an alpha in that 78 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: locker room because he's a superstar in the league already. 79 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: You could just tell by the way he carries himself, 80 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: like a lot of players respect him. You watch those 81 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: videos from the Vikings flights last year, and who's like 82 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: one of the guys instrumental and being cool putting the 83 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: chain on Kirk Cousins. Justin Jefferson's like running the show. 84 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: He's a cool guy. Can't put it, you know, you 85 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: can't put a number on it, but he just has 86 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: that quality of leadership. Cool people want to follow him. 87 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: He's really really good at football, footwork is impeccable, great dancer, like, 88 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: he's got all the qualities in somebody you want to 89 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: hang with. And if Kirk ain't getting a stamp from 90 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: his from his wide receiver number one again, I'm not. 91 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure Kirk's not gonna take it personally and in 92 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: the huddle, I'm sure he's gonna make jokes about it. 93 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: Oh I made that throat you Yeah, yeah, I'm not 94 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: top five quarterback smile ha ha ha. But like the 95 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: fact that it's out there, I don't like that. Now 96 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: A lot of people. And I'm sure Rob G's gonna 97 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: push back on me. Jay, what on earth are you 98 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: talking about? Who cares? Who cared? He's not a top 99 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: five quarter. That's not the point. If somebody said to 100 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: Rob G, Rob give me the five most talented guys 101 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: in podcasts and radio right now, Rob G rattles off 102 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: five guys. If I'm not one of them. If I'm 103 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: not one of them, we got problems. And Rob, I'm 104 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: not saying I'm like gonna be angry at you. I'm 105 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: just gonna wonder, like, geez, I guess he doesn't think 106 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: highly of me? Why are you the producer of this podcast? Like? 107 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: Do you not think I have upside? Do you not 108 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: think talented? Do you not think I stir the pot? 109 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: Are the numbers not good? Like? What about me? Is it? 110 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: And I start to have doubts now again, I am 111 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: pretty confident in my ways, and like as I've talked 112 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: to many about before, like I don't try not to 113 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: get into many internet skirmishes. I've got enough stuff going on. 114 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: I just told you about my dog in a raccoon. 115 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: You know, I got the kids, I got the wife 116 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: I got. My parents are shaking me down for all this, 117 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: all these Jason, Hey, you know, can you come to 118 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: this and you know what about the like, I got 119 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on in life. Okay, I 120 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: can't really worry if Rob g were to slight me. 121 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: But I'll be honest, Rob, if you did get asked 122 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: that question, and I would expect you to say the 123 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: odd couple you guys work with as well and whoever 124 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: else you produce at Fox Sports Radio, I would be 125 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: a little slighted. I'm curious, do you think Justin Jefferson 126 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: was in the right or wrong? Or is it not 127 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: much ado about nothing? 128 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: No, you are one thousand percent correct. And it's again 129 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: whether or not Kirk Cousin is the top five quarterback. 130 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: He's not, but it is your obligation as a good teammate, 131 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: as a friend to include him in that discussion. And 132 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 2: what's funny is if you're gonna let me explain to 133 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: you this way. If you mentioned you and I and 134 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: you're saying, hey, who's the top five sports media personalities 135 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: or podcasters and out there, I'm gonna include you in 136 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: the top five, whether I even if I really don't 137 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: think you are, I'm going to say it anyways, and 138 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 2: you know why, because I'm going to have a good reason. 139 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to say, Look, Jason is part of the 140 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: number one ranked sports radio program at Fox Sports One. 141 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: Colin Cowherd is the number one sports radio person that 142 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: personality in the country. He thinks Jason's great. That means, 143 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: of course, Jason's great. Like that, you can rationalize any 144 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: way you want to. Jason cuts through with his content, 145 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: and so much so that he has former NBA MVPs 146 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant sliding in his DMS to go at him. 147 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: That to me tells me he cuts through. So you 148 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: can work a discussion any way you want to to 149 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: make it fit what you want to say. In this case, 150 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: for Justin Jefferson, it's not even that difficult to slide 151 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: in a conversation about Kirk Cousins being a top five quarterback. 152 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: You say, yeah, last season he threw twenty nine touchdowns. 153 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: That's fifth in the NFL. Last season in a new offense, 154 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: he threw for two hundred and sixty seven yards per game, 155 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: which is seventh, only point two yards behind Josh Allen. 156 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, you say, hey, it look statistically he's right there. 157 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: He's the top five quarterback. Absolutely, that's what you should 158 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 2: be doing. It makes me think, and I don't know 159 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: if I'm reading too much into this, but it makes 160 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: me think that he knows something that Kirk Cousins is 161 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: not long from Minnesota, that he's not going to be 162 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: my quarterback much longer. So I don't have to be 163 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: a good teammate, a good soldier and big him up 164 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: if I don't really feel that way. Because to your point, 165 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, by any metric you want to pick, was 166 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: a worst quarterback last year than Kirk Cousins, and he 167 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: has him number two. So obviously this is not just 168 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: a numbers based argument. This is not just an eye 169 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: test argument. This is his personal feelings and he's decided, 170 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: for whatever reason that at this point in the year 171 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: of our lower twenty twenty three, Aaron Rodgers is still 172 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 2: a better quarterback than Kirk Cousins, and that is debatable 173 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: at best. 174 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: Right now, Rob, I could not. I don't know if 175 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: I've ever agreed with you as much. And I will 176 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: say if someone if the guy who asked Justin Jefferson 177 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: had pushed back Kirk Cousins, come on Justin Jefferson as 178 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: a one easy. Stet Hey, buddy, who led the league 179 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: in fourth quarter game winning drives last year? Yeah, that 180 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: was Kirk Cousins with eight. That's clutch. That's a clutch stat. 181 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: I know people don't want to believe in clutch in 182 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: the NFL. And you win with defense and special teams 183 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: and wide receivers and offensive line, you got to be 184 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback unders are delivering those game winning drives. Kirk 185 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: had eight of them, tops in the league. He was 186 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: good last year. I know they lost in the first 187 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: round of the Giants. It was a bad loss, and 188 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: Kirk stinks in prime time and they got squashed anytime 189 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: they step up in the class to face the Eagles 190 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: and good teams. I get that. But I mean, like, 191 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: if somebody asked Rob, if somebody said, c d lam 192 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: give me your top five quarterbacks, I'm almost certain Dak 193 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: Prescott would be in this top five. Now, this is 194 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: not Patrick Mahomes say give me your top five receivers 195 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: in the league. I don't expect him to say, like 196 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: Kadarius Tony, Like that's a totally different story. That's not happening. 197 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: You know, give me another one, Rob, Like, uh No, 198 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: But I okay, Patrick Mahomes. 199 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: If they ask a pat who's the top five receivers 200 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: in the league, I promise you he'll sneak in Travis Kelcey, 201 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: knowing he's. 202 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: A time Travis Kelcey. 203 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 2: There you go, and he's just gonna say, well, you 204 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: know what, the way we use him in our offense, 205 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: I'd to put him up against any wide receiver in football. 206 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: That's not true. When we all know that we can 207 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: pick ten receivers who we'd rather have on the outside 208 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: than Travis kelce that's not a sign in Travis Kelcey. 209 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: But there's a difference between being a tight end and 210 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: being a receiver. But Patrick Mahomes knows, and this is 211 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: something that Joe Burrow knows. He goes out of his 212 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: way to pick up Jamar Chase. You could make an argument, 213 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: and I don't know if this is a good argument, 214 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: but I've heard people say that t Higgins is the 215 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: best receiver on that team because he moves the chains 216 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: a little. You know, he's a big body, he runs 217 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 2: good routes. Jamar Chase might be more explosive make the 218 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: big plays. But there are people who said that they 219 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: think that in the classic sense of a wide receiver 220 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: that T Higgins right now is just a little bit 221 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: more refined. I would disagree, but people have said that 222 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow knows that Jamar Chase is my guy. He's 223 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 2: number one, or he's number two, whatever Burrow could. 224 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: Burrow could probably if you ask for five top receivers. 225 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: I think I could if he said Higgins and Chase, 226 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: I got two of them. I don't think a lot 227 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: of people would be like, come on, get the hell 228 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: out of here. Obviously, I don't think Higgins is top five, 229 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: but he's probably on the cusp of top ten. And again, 230 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: this idea of picking up your guys, you got to 231 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: be positive, you got to be positive out there. I 232 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: don't know, Rob I'm trying to think of an example 233 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: where it would be okay, like out of this. If 234 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry was asked the top five quarterbacks, could he 235 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: get away with Ryan Tannehill or No? Probably now that 236 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: I mean he could say, hey, who's the number one? 237 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: See two years ago? 238 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: No, I mean yeah, but again this if we're basing 239 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: it just off this season, then it's hard to make that. 240 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: It's a little bit. 241 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: If you asked him that question a year ago, he 242 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: could say yeah, Ryan Tannehill for sure, and nobody. 243 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: Would Rob I would pump it. I would give him 244 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: props for pumping up his guy because that's part of 245 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: the game. Man, You got to you gotta have your 246 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: guys back. I mean, listen, I've worked with a lot 247 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: of producers. Rob G will get the hype from me. 248 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: He always delivers with the good topics. And let's segue 249 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: from Kirk Cousins to a topic. Rob G is hot 250 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: on and I'm I'm as as myself likes to say 251 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: mid on this one. Zion Williamson the overweight superstar NBA 252 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: play potential superstar NBA player who has had an off 253 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: He's in filled with porn stars and strippers too. In particular, 254 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: he's in the news again because during the NBA Summer League, 255 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: Gilbert Arenas was hosting his podcast and it was unclear 256 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: to me, but Zion Williamson stopped by. Now he didn't 257 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: sit down, he was like standing up and I guess 258 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: he's a big fan of Gilbert Arenas. And Gilbert Arenas 259 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: asked him about the weight and he was like, listen, 260 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: it's tough when you're making all this money and you know, 261 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: without saying it. He made it sound like he's got 262 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: a lot of yes men around him, which is a bad, 263 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: bad idea. It's funny Zion and John Moran boath surrounded 264 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: by yes men. Look where they are now? And Zion 265 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: basically said, like, part of the problem that I'm fat 266 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: or overweight or not in shape is because I've got 267 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: a lot of money, and I'm just like My reaction 268 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: is like, what is that an excuse? I was? I 269 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: continue Rob to be extremely disappointed in any and everything 270 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: Zion Williamson does. All of his decisions seem poor right now. Okay, 271 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: I'm rich, therefore I'm overweight. It's not an excuse, Bro. 272 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: It is not hard to find a trainer who's gonna 273 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: grind your ass, who's gonna make sure you're not up 274 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: until two in the morning bouncing around your various ladies' 275 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: houses and then slumping into the gym the next morning. 276 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: It is not hard. Also, you kind of got a wonder, Rob. 277 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: When somebody talks like that, Can you just stop for 278 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: a second. As a huge Kobe Bryant guy, can you 279 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: imagine those words coming out of Kobe Bryant's mouth. I'm 280 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: rich man, It's tough to not eat. It's really a 281 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: mindset thing. And you know what, I haven't seen Zion's parents. 282 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they're heavy set or a little overweight. 283 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: And I get it. For some people, eating can be difficult. 284 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: You will never ever see me turn away a dessert, 285 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: especially if it's donuts. All I know what it means 286 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: is I gotta get to bed a little earlier and 287 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: wake up a little earlier in the morning so I 288 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: can work on the situps and get in the workout. 289 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: I know that, or I gotta do some physical activity. 290 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: It's a trade off for me. If I ever ate healthy, 291 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: rob Oh, I'd be shirtless often, okay, But as a result, 292 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: I don't eat healthy, so I flex the tank top 293 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: with the show muscles as opposed to the shredded interior. 294 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: It's not there because I don't eat healthy. It's sad 295 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,359 Speaker 1: and it's true, and I'm keeping it real with you guys. 296 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: There's a lot to unpack there. Let me start first off, 297 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: we didn't always have video on this podcast, and America, 298 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: if you've been listening to this podcast from the beginning, 299 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: you know that I've made it very clear Jason did 300 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: at least seventy percent of his podcast Shirtless on the Zoom. 301 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: Nobody saw it except for me because it was only 302 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: using the audio. But that was what he said about 303 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: the tank top thing is a lie because I've seen 304 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: him with his shirt off a thousand times. He just 305 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: has no shame. That's number one. Number two, It's funny 306 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: that you brought up Kobe because that whole situation about 307 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: him being manaia about his workouts and his body and 308 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: if he goes out. He said, I'll go out with you, 309 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna come back and do my work out 310 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: at five am. You better come with me. That attitude 311 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: is what led to the biggest friction between him and Shack, 312 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: because Shaq was a lot more like Zion. Shaq was like, look, 313 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: as long as I perform, it doesn't matter what I do. 314 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what I eat, it doesn't matter how 315 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: big I get. If by the time we get to Spring, April, 316 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: May and June, if I'm in my peak physical form, 317 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: who cares? Right? And Kobe just did not vibe with that, 318 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: and that was a big reason why they ended up 319 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: breaking up with Zion. Obviously, it's disappointing, you know, you 320 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: never want to see a guy that talented basically eat 321 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: his way out of the NBA. But at the same time, 322 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: this isn't all that new, Like the biggest problem I 323 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: see with this is New Orleans gave him that contract 324 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: knowing that his maturity level was not such that he 325 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: could handle that much money and still be responsible for 326 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: himself and make the right decisions. They gave him that 327 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: money without him ever really earning it. He I think 328 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 2: he's only ever played. I think he played less than 329 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: forty games I believe at the most of any season 330 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: before they give him that contract. And you had to 331 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: know then that he wasn't responsible with his diet and 332 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: his being in shape. What do you think is going 333 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: to happen when he gets all this money. This is 334 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: not any different than these guys you see all around 335 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: the league who are mediocre players at best, all the 336 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: way in their career. Then it's a contract year and 337 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they have a career season and 338 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: they're in lock shape, they're shooting well, they're going to 339 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: bed early, they're the teachers pat at the front of 340 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 2: the class in the film study. They get paid and 341 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: they go right back to what they were before. So 342 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 2: I know Zion is saying the right things, like I 343 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 2: gotten people around me, Now I got wisdom, as he 344 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 2: says around him. I don't believe anything. I would be 345 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: shocked if we see a metamorphosis physically or mentally from 346 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 2: Zion willis moving Forwar. I don't see it. 347 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm hopeful, but yeah, my expectations are extremely low. This 348 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: is the kind of guy Rob who You're right, he 349 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: was given so much. I mean again, he did it 350 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: off what one year a duke and he didn't even 351 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: play the full season because he blew out the sneaker 352 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: and had the injury. And then the little he played 353 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, Like he's played very little basketball over 354 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: the last like four years. Like we just haven't seen 355 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: a lot of them. I still remember the loss they 356 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: had to Michigan State in the NCAA Tournament. I was crestfallen. 357 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, no more, Zion. I want to see the 358 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: next thing this guy could do. He's incredible to watch, 359 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: one of my favorite players in the league. As soon 360 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: as he burst onto the scene, I was like, you know, 361 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: we're talking about one Minyama and I'm like, I'm gonna 362 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: try to watch every one Minyama game that's on TV, 363 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: Like I felt that way about Zion. He was must 364 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: see TV for me, and like I saw somebody post 365 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: I think it was on Instagram about how like Steph 366 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: Curry and Lebron and Paul George and all these Dame Liller, 367 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: all these guys are like getting old. They've been around 368 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: the league for like, I don't know, almost fifteen years 369 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: many of them, Lebron obviously more, and it's like, wow, 370 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: we got to get ready for the next wave. And 371 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: it's always like the next wave, but the next wave 372 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: is a little choppy in all seriousness, like I don't 373 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen with John Moran and Zion Williamson. 374 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: Are they going to get their act together? You know, 375 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: there's a large range of outcomes for both these guys, 376 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: and not all of them are great. This could easily 377 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: go sideways for either or both of them. And you know, 378 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: you always look at that next wave, like remember when 379 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: who's going to recover for the NFL When Tom Brady 380 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning leave, Oh, it's going to be so brutal, 381 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: and oh we lost Ben Roethlisberger's just devastating, And now 382 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: it's like five minutes later, Oh we got Patrick Mahomes, 383 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: we got Burrow. We're good, We're great. It's like, oh 384 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: my gosh, an embarrassment of riches. And now with the 385 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: NBA Zion, like Robbie can't control his diet. I don't 386 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: the Pelicans have to be disappointed watching his video right? 387 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely? I mean they have to be disappointed with everything 388 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: that he's been doing, you know, I mean the porn 389 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: star th I know that's a private matter that became 390 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: public unfortunately, but it kind of speaks to his judgment, 391 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: you know, that that that's what he was doing. And 392 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: then if he were the eighth, ninth, tenth guy on 393 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: the on the bench, he probably would have just been 394 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: traded or waved or whatever. Yeah, because he is the 395 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: franchise player, he got the franchise contract, he is still 396 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: super marketable because of how he plays. When he does play, 397 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: they're gonna put up with a lot of stuff. And 398 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 2: it's it's surprising that it's taken this long because we 399 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: didn't hear anything really negative coming out of New Orleans 400 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: about Zion until they got bounced from the play in 401 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: and CJ. McCollum was, you know, taking veil jobs. We 402 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: talked about on this podcast and David Griffin at their 403 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: exit interview saying, you know, a lot of Zion's issues 404 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: or what needs to come improve is on him. It's 405 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: nothing about us. It's about him. And he's been in 406 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: the league for what five years now. They they didn't 407 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: start holding him accountable till now until after they already 408 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 2: gave him the contract. Like the toothpaste is already out 409 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: of the tooth. What are you gonna do? And it's 410 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: just do you try to be mature enough to make it? 411 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't see it. 412 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: Well, it's funny listening to you just now. I thought, 413 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I know what somebody's gonna say about us, Rob, 414 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: someone at least one person, I don't know, twenty thousan fifty. However, 415 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: many people listen to the podcast. One person is gonna say, 416 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: wait a minute, guys, you just got on Zion Williamson 417 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: for being honest and Justin Jefferson was honest and you 418 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: want him to lie? Which is it? Athletes can't win. 419 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna say that, Rob, someone is gonna say that, 420 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: And my response, you could give yours. Obviously, my response 421 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: would be there are times when it's okay to lie. 422 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: And I tried explaining this to Cowherd this week and 423 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't seem to be on board with it. But 424 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: like for my kids, I'm like, let's it's okay sometimes 425 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: to tell a white lie. If I come downstairs looking fresh, 426 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: I think I've got this amazing haircut. My outfit is 427 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: just on a thousand, and I'm feeling it and you 428 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: can see it, and I'm energizing. I'm going out. I 429 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: got a big night whatever. We gotta function be rab 430 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: my guy, how do I look? It's okay to lie 431 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: and say, Dad, you look great. You look like a 432 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: million dollars, even if you think, ooh, I don't. You're 433 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: trying too hard, Dad. I'm not feeling that. I don't 434 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: want to hear that. No, tell me that in this outfit, 435 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: for this night, for this moment, I look good. It's 436 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: all I need to hear. And every husband knows that, 437 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, the wife's gonna ask you one or two 438 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: of these questions, and it's okay to lie sometimes. Guys, 439 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: you know that I'm not crushing Zion for lying or 440 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: for sorry for being honest. I'm not asking him to 441 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: lie here like sure him being honest is great. But 442 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: like Rob said, we're five years into this experiment now, 443 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: and you're telling me it's hard to stop eating in 444 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: New Orleans and the Pelicans have done nothing, and you 445 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: surrounded yourself with yes men, get your act together. And 446 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: then I look across at Justin Jefferson and say, Bro, 447 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: you gotta lie. You gotta pump up your guy. Rob. 448 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: I know you're with me. Sometimes it's okay to lie. 449 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: I'm not saying a lot. You know a lot of 450 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: your teachers. It's not always great to lie to your parents, 451 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: but in certain circumstances it's okay. I know I'm threading 452 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: a tight needle here, but you feel me right, Yeah. 453 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: I mean, as a married man who has a young daughter, 454 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 2: I know exactly what you're saying. So we are in lockstep. 455 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 2: And I think the difference is between Justin Jefferson and 456 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: Zion Williamson as it relates to sports, is Justin Jefferson 457 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: by if he does lie, he's being a great teammate, 458 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 2: he's supporting his guy. He's throwing praise on someone who 459 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 2: may or may not deserve it. But you could definitely 460 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: make a case that you know that's what you should 461 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: be doing with Zion Williamson by being so honest, he's 462 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: being a bad teammate by saying, look, I know that 463 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 2: I have this whole locker room, you know, pulling for me. 464 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 2: I have an entire franchise who wants me to succeed. 465 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: I have a city who wants me to be in shape. 466 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: I have an entire NBA conglomerate who has been pushing 467 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 2: me for four plus years to be the face of 468 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: their multi billion dollar operation. And I'm just saying, you 469 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: know what, I'm good. I can't say no to that 470 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: double pool pork sandwich. I can't. I can't say no 471 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: to the two am booty calls followed up by Taco 472 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: bell on the way home afterwards. Oh that kind of 473 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 2: stuff you're I don't know if that's the case, but 474 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: I just. 475 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: I've had that back at the day you know that. 476 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: Twenty By being that honest, you're showing that you really 477 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: don't care about everything else. You're only looking out for 478 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: Zion Williamson. And that's the difference. 479 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: Do better, Zion, all right, we have a great NFL 480 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: guest ready come and made us tomorrow unclear what we're doing. 481 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: Later in the week, it probably won't be Summer League 482 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: now that one min Yama's out at scoots out Brandon 483 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: Miller's crushing, but does anybody care? All right, talk to 484 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: you tomorrow.