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Speaker 1: Welcome in all you faithfuls and traders. Another episode of

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Speaker 1: By Order of the Faithfuls and Wells Adams that I'm

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Speaker 1: alongside the newly engaged Dolores.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations, Thank you, Wells. I'm feeling very romantic. I know

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Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, I may have a picture behind me

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Speaker 2: like yours soon, we don't know. Look at that. I've

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Speaker 2: made fun of you for that. Now I'm gonna eat it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh huh, I love it.

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Speaker 2: I love you guys, Thank you, and thank you for

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Speaker 2: congratulating me. I'm very excited and I was very surprised.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us how it all went down? And

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Speaker 1: were you surprised?

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Speaker 2: Beyond wells, I had no clue, so he kind of reenacted,

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Speaker 2: basically reenacted. The first day we met, we met at

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Speaker 2: the Apple Store. We were supposed to go on a date.

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Speaker 2: Both our phones broke at the same time, and we

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Speaker 2: met at the I went to get it fixed. He

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Speaker 2: was there and we started talking at the Apple Store

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Speaker 2: and that's how it all wound up. And we then

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Speaker 2: we went out to dinner at night to a place

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Speaker 2: called Rocos. So he wanted it to be sentimental. And

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Speaker 2: when I got to the Apple Store, because he told

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Speaker 2: me I was buying a new phone, and I was

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Speaker 2: in a hurry to get back to do a podcast

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Speaker 2: for two teas. He started being very like emotional, left

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Speaker 2: the store and telling the ladies there how we met

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Speaker 2: and we met here, and I'm like, oh, yeah, imagine

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Speaker 2: if we got engaged here. So then he started saying

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Speaker 2: even more beautiful things, and I had I thought he

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Speaker 2: was having a stroke wells, because you know, we don't

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Speaker 2: talk like that to each other. So I was like,

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Speaker 2: are you okay? And I touched his shirt and it

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Speaker 2: was soaking wet, and then he started to say, You've

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Speaker 2: made my life better. And I was like, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: And I looked around and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: cameras came out. The whole store was in on it,

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Speaker 2: and he got down on one knee and I came

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Speaker 2: home to a thousand roses through the whole house, wow

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Speaker 2: candles and more photographers. And then later on that night

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Speaker 2: we went out to dinner to Rocos Steakhouse and we

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Speaker 2: had the same waiter, the same bottle of wine, and

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Speaker 1: So well lovely. I mean, it's like a modern day

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Speaker 1: You've got mail.

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Speaker 2: It was I know who gets engaged at the Apple store,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it hit me because you know we're

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Speaker 2: in the public eye, as you know well, and you

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Speaker 2: know we all take a lot of heat. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, I hope no one makes fun of

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Speaker 2: him or picks on him for doing this because it

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Speaker 2: was so beautiful and it really was the sentiment behind it,

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't on a beach, and it wasn't fireworks

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Speaker 2: and all this stuff, but it meant the world to me,

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Speaker 2: and it's been a pretty nice response to it all.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited, Lovely, And I know you're not say

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Speaker 1: congratulations when you get engaged. I don't think so, because

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Speaker 1: you didn't win anything like one person didn't win something else.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was explained to me. But anyways, I'm

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Speaker 1: just happy for both of you, and may you know

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Speaker 1: you have a long and loving marriage. And you have

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Speaker 1: a picture like I've got one behind me.

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Speaker 2: Some day You're going to tell you something when this

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Speaker 2: does happen. I'm going to reenact that picture because I

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Speaker 2: think it manifested because I am always staring at it.

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Speaker 2: Beyind you, like the whole podcast, Sometimes I doze off

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Speaker 2: like you're talking or tamage talking and I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: your picture. I think that's the reason I got engaged.

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Speaker 1: Well, my picture is is my wife and I holding

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Speaker 1: my handkerchief that was given to us and it was

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Speaker 1: it was needle pointed our dogs on it, and it

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Speaker 1: was like a really cute thing. So I think you

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Speaker 1: maybe an iPhone that's say like hear me, I'll be appropriate,

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Speaker 1: you know what.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good idea. You're very creative and

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that, so I'll come to you for more ideas.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm happy for you. I'm excited about this episode

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Speaker 1: today for all you traders out there, We're going to

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Speaker 1: be welcoming in one of the best, one of the

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Speaker 1: greats from season three, also contestant from Survivor season forty four.

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Speaker 1: She is big on TV, big in person, actually a

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Speaker 1: lovely person to be around. I really have a short

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Speaker 1: time being on the show, but really loved being around her.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome into by order of the Faithfuls. Carolyn.

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Speaker 3: Hi, you guys look cute? Is that the dress code?

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Speaker 3: His little hats?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: No, the thing is Carolyn. I just got back from

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Speaker 2: Bravo con and I look really bad, so he looks

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Speaker 2: cute and a hot I have one hiding myself. Carolyn.

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Speaker 2: We're so happy to have you. I know it's a

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Speaker 2: big treat for us.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to be here, but I got I'm a

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Speaker 3: little pissed, to be honest, because is this like I

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Speaker 3: want to be I want to talk about the real episodes.

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Speaker 3: I because I looked on y'all's thing and I'm like, yes,

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Speaker 3: they're done, like talking about the past. And then I

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Speaker 3: current season. But then I was like, shit, so call

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Speaker 3: me back for an episode or are you guys not

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Speaker 3: having people at that time?

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Speaker 1: It starts, yeah, we're definitely having you back. I just

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Speaker 1: wanted I wanted to ask you, Carolyn, because you don't

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Speaker 1: often do interviews, and I was wondering why you agreed

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Speaker 1: to come on on this show.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

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Speaker 3: I don't like doing this shit. I do this stuff

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Speaker 3: for fun, and I don't like first of all, and

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Speaker 3: then I started a thing where I was like, donate

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Speaker 3: to this chair, and then I'm like, I'm not fucking rich.

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Speaker 3: What the fuck am I doing? Like, don't you not here?

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Speaker 2: But I know, like, it was so nice of you

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Speaker 2: an icon. And by the way, you're so beautiful.

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Speaker 3: You're just my lips are so fucking fake that I

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Speaker 3: got to get some of this filler out. I am

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Speaker 3: seeing the tarty for the party.

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Speaker 2: You think why they think you look like Kim Kelsiak.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like, she's literally like twenty years older than me.

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Speaker 3: What is it do I look to like nineteen ninety?

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Speaker 3: I think it's because.

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Speaker 2: Your hair is long and blonde.

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Speaker 3: It's I'm not wearing a wig.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 1: You guys are both beautiful and I thoroughly enjoyed getting

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Speaker 1: to do two episodes of with you. Guys.

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Speaker 2: You've been on Traders and Survivor, but you played an

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Speaker 2: incredible season three as a Trader. I mean it was unreal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a girl, where the hell were you with helping

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Speaker 2: You helped me? Now, I didn't know it until I

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Speaker 1: Okay, real quick to start this interview with the The

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Speaker 1: only question that I really have for you, Carolyn is

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Speaker 1: one question, well, I mean I want, but the one

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Speaker 1: that the egocentricity that I have right now, it has

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Speaker 1: want I just want to know, like was that the plan?

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Speaker 1: Were you guys trying to get rid of me? What

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Speaker 1: put my name down. Why did you vote for me?

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Speaker 3: Because I had to? And so for me like you don't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to be I started the game a

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Speaker 3: little bit crazy. I'm like accusing people before we picked

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Speaker 3: of like like what is wrong with her? Well, they

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Speaker 3: it's like Okay, I could see that all the votes

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Speaker 3: like did I know? I thought it was stupid. I

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Speaker 3: didn't want to do it. And that's what's so frustrating

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Speaker 3: of like it just it doesn't make sense and it's

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Speaker 3: So much of this is luck. It's it truly is.

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Speaker 3: But did I want to vote? You know you had

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Speaker 3: just bought a pack of SIGs too. I wanted to smoke.

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Speaker 2: Like I you had cigarettes.

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Speaker 3: I was like, we had been talking about SIGs and

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Speaker 2: I didn't vote for you, by the way. I don't

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Speaker 2: of people wouldn't feel comfortable being so authentic on TV.

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Speaker 2: I'm on reality TV. I'm myself unapologetically like you. But

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Speaker 3: And that's what I struggled, which good Like I'm very

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Speaker 2: I know, and you and I had a thing when

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Speaker 2: you got there. You were very Do you remember that.

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Speaker 3: You helped me? And I told people this like if

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Speaker 3: I started crying. And it was Dolores who helped me

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Speaker 3: and was like, she needs to go upstairs. I didn't

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Speaker 3: I don't care. It's real life.

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Speaker 2: I know they missed out. They missed it hard.

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Speaker 3: So as far as being my authentic self, like I

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I literally live in Minnesota, Like I don't

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Speaker 3: like I don't want to get to know these people.

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Speaker 3: I don't because first of all, like it's just it

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Speaker 2: Of No I didn't. I did not in no way,

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Speaker 3: Know, And so I just felt like like for me,

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Speaker 3: I cried. I mean I cried a lot. I know

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Speaker 3: No? Hell noing no, I don't want to be no

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Speaker 3: I know when I say I do, I do, it's that.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it doesn't get me? Like ann eat

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Speaker 3: I do believe in myself. I do think I'm great,

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Speaker 3: We're not getting anything.

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Speaker 2: People don't understand that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And there was only probably one time where I was

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Speaker 3: it's like the story of my goddamn life that like again,

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Speaker 2: Well you got there, you got really far, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I cried too, but you.

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Speaker 2: Know, would you do it again?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely? I loved it like as much as I

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Speaker 3: Oh, like please, girl. I thought it was awesome and

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Speaker 3: I think yeah, which is fine, which is what I

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Speaker 1: You know, it's an advantage though in the game that

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Speaker 1: you're an amazing game player and you're using this to

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Speaker 3: like oh it's it's but I know it helps me,

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Speaker 1: When you look back at all the you know, moves

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Speaker 1: that the Traders that you guys made, can you pinpoint

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Speaker 3: The drag Queen that early on just everything fell apart

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Speaker 3: I trust you now. It was too hard. It was

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Speaker 3: I just want you to know, like I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: She's very ready, and I get I understand. I feel

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't be that so like, and they're like, no,

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Speaker 3: not me to be like I can't wait. It's like

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Speaker 3: It was weird for me, and maybe I should have

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Speaker 3: It's just not me and I really tried to like

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Speaker 3: again I don't know how to do reality shows, which

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Speaker 2: A reality shows is about being yourself, and that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's it. It's yourself. And even in this game, in

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Speaker 2: all the games, I think that you play, it's yourself

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Speaker 2: that gets you there. So why would you be anybody

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Speaker 2: but Carolyn, You're You're like people go crazy over you.

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Speaker 1: I also think when people start acting differently than they

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Speaker 1: you know. So I think that you played it exactly

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Speaker 3: I would have like I always had Sandra's voice in

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Speaker 3: don't you be talking because I'm a talker, and so

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Speaker 3: just just don't like kind of lay low. But that's

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Speaker 3: like that was probably fun. Even though you know he

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Speaker 3: was dying inside, like just feeling like I couldn't, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, just say things or accuse people or that's

435
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Speaker 3: what you want to do, and I felt so just

436
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Speaker 3: like I gotta be quiet. So I really I that sucked,

437
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 3: and I regret, like just protecting Tom.

438
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Speaker 2: You regret protecting him what? He's an asshole to me?

439
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: And he's still an asshole. He's a fucking asshole. That's why, yep.

440
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 3: And everybody warned me and me especially who I fucking

441
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 3: hate cheaters, Okay, like they trigger me. They pissed me off.

442
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 3: They and everyone's like he is a nurseissist too. So

443
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, I've been judged my whole life.

444
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 3: I've people like treat me a certain way because of

445
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: my past. I'm not going to do that. Well, it

446
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 3: turns out.

447
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: I went in the same way with him, Carolyn, And

448
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 2: then you know, when I see him, it's nice and

449
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 2: it's cordial, but he just like fucking ripped me apart

450
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Speaker 2: on a Traders panel at Barabokime.

451
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Speaker 3: No.

452
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, you didn't even Uh what did he say?

453
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Speaker 2: He kept shitting on me about how I played the

454
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: missions and what else did he say? He's like, you

455
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Speaker 2: didn't first of all, I played the missions hard. Don't

456
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Speaker 2: tell me. I mean, I did everything, But I forget

457
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Speaker 2: what he said, and I don't know we got into

458
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 2: it on the Traders panel anyway. That's that's that's not

459
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: about us. This is all about you and I just

460
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: you've been such an inspiration to so many people. You're

461
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Speaker 2: so open about your past and dealing with your addiction,

462
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Speaker 2: and you've used it now to be a life coach,

463
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Speaker 2: which is really a blessing. I know so many people

464
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Speaker 2: you're like number She's like number one on cameo.

465
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: Else not anymore, I need to get something for a

466
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 3: long time. Well, hey, I'm typically in the like I do.

467
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 3: Well though, there's not a day that I've ever had.

468
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 3: There's never been like a day where I don't get

469
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 3: a cameo request or something, do you know what I mean?

470
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 3: At least one? But typically I have it like I do,

471
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 3: I do a lot.

472
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 2: So why don't you.

473
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: Have a very unique voice and a lot of people

474
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Speaker 1: were doing imitations of you on social media. I thought

475
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Speaker 1: they were hilarious. I was wondering how you felt about it,

476
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: like in the moment cool.

477
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: So this is the truth because and this is where

478
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: like people like don't, I don't really give a shit

479
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 3: what people believe. I don't read or search my name

480
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 3: because I don't need to read that I'm a crackhead.

481
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 3: Of course, there is a lot of great things. But

482
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: if I put all of this stock into like the

483
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 3: positive things people say, what happens when it stops and

484
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 3: what happens if I put all of my life so

485
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 3: work into it, so I don't search. And so during Survivor,

486
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 3: I had so many people like uh, calling me a crackhead,

487
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 3: saying my brain was fried from drugs, saying just so

488
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: much shit. I stopped, like, I don't search my name

489
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 3: at all, and so I remember I didn't, and I

490
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 3: would tell my family don't send me articles with what

491
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 3: people say. I don't care. I need to love myself.

492
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: And if I can't love myself without the attention of

493
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 3: other people or like the well people you don't even know, right, No,

494
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 3: So I don't want to give it the energy. And

495
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 3: so I truly when the season was airing, And this

496
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 3: is literally the truth. And I didn't even know people

497
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 3: liked me after Survivor until the cameo hit and I

498
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: had so many that it couldn't sleep, and so it

499
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 3: hasn't stopped. And it's one of those things like I

500
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 3: wouldn't have known otherwise, Like I truly thought I was

501
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 3: the freaky weirdo who was playing a fucking game. So

502
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 3: with Traders, I had so many people telling me like,

503
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: you gotta see this and you gotta see this, and

504
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 3: I wasn't finding them unless people would send them to me.

505
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: And it's the same with like the Danielle drama because

506
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 3: that came to like people were like, you need to

507
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: like calm your fans down because they're being mean to Danielle.

508
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have known because I don't read that shit.

509
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 3: I don't otherwise, Like for what, I don't need the attention.

510
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 3: I don't need to know what people think of me.

511
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: Am I gonna change because somebody doesn't like me?

512
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

513
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 3: So, but I did get like the ball do I

514
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 3: I didn't even know I had an accent like that?

515
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 3: Is that for Minnesota?

516
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Speaker 1: Obviously Survivor fifty cast has been released. Girl, So here's

517
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Speaker 1: my question, last question to you, would you ever go

518
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: back on Survivor? And would you ever go back on Traders?

519
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: And if you got offered both of them, which one

520
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: would you rather do?

521
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 3: Good question, girl, Like, So, yeah, Survivor fifty I was cut.

522
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: That's kind of sucked. But I mean Traders was amazing.

523
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: I can't when I talk about the experience as far

524
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: as even like, and I don't know y'all come from

525
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: like shows that probably like treat you like really really well,

526
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: and like I felt like NBC Peacocks, who is it?

527
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: Who is who's responsible for treating us so well? I

528
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: felt like a damn princess. I So besides the show

529
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: being absolutely incredible and just how much do you I

530
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 3: mean even think of like the producers were there tweaking

531
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: every detail and making sure the like uh the murderer

532
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 3: face to face. It was I'm like, my oh, it's

533
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 3: so cool. So Traders is the answer? Like, it was

534
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: so amazing, But how they treated us, how they treated me,

535
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: I felt like, this is such these are great people

536
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: who actually care.

537
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: There's a wellness team, right, they say are you okay?

538
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 3: Everything? All the support people, all of there was never

539
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: a time time where I felt and I just felt

540
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: like a queen like I loved them.

541
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Speaker 2: Studio Lambert, Lambert.

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00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: Listen, I gotta say yeah ITV Studio Lambert. They need

543
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: to do an all star show and you have to

544
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: be on it and I will watch that. Thank you

545
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: so much, Carolyn for coming on the show.

546
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Speaker 2: Thank you, kin.

547
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: I love getting to know you, even though it was

548
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: for a short time. You are to me such like

549
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: a perfect reality TV person because you are just authentically you.

550
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you for just being honest with all

551
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: of us. And please please come back when we start

552
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: recapping season four because your insight will be invaluable to

553
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: us because we're all free.

554
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Carolyn. We're so excited that you

555
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: said you'd come back.

556
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: By thank you, and congratulations on the engagement to go

557
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: and your new show.

558
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm excited, so wow.

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Speaker 3: Thank y'all.

560
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: All right, see you, Carolyn.

561
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Speaker 2: Bye.

562
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Speaker 1: She's the best.

563
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: Well how many times have you been called a girl

564
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: and you.

565
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that was probably the most. But you know what,

566
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: if anyone can pull it off, it's her. Listen. I

567
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: it broke my heart that she was the one who

568
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: got me was the final vote. But I really did

569
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: like getting to know her and hanging out with her,

570
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, she's right, I did. I was so stressed out.

571
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: I got a pack of cigarettes and that was a

572
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: thing that happened on that show and some behind the

573
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Speaker 1: scenes stuff.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, everyone out there, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: listening to By Order of the faithfuls. If you're not

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Speaker 1: following us on social media, please do rate and review

578
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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to the podcast and tell your friends

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Speaker 1: By Order of the Faithful.

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Speaker 3: Bie