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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Camra

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Speaker 1: j Edge.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas in

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Speaker 2: a Pod. Me and Tamara are so excited to welcome

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Speaker 2: on Real Housewives of New Jersey's Margaret Josephs. She really

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Speaker 2: brought it this season in more ways than one.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna put her on the twat seat because

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Speaker 3: we have a lot of questions for Margaret.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of questions for Margaret.

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Speaker 3: Be nice.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's bring on March.

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Speaker 3: Where are you?

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Speaker 4: I wanted to look good for you, guys, but you

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Speaker 4: know I'm in Chicago. I have to go to a

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Speaker 4: baseball game June event.

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Speaker 3: You look great.

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Speaker 4: What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing in Chicago?

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Speaker 4: I have my beverage at a stadium met Chicago White

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Speaker 4: Sox Stadium, So I.

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Speaker 3: Know that's big.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, it is, it is big. They've been

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Speaker 4: in postulations, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I have

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Speaker 4: a big meet and greet with me and everybody trying

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Speaker 4: the beverage who hasn't tried it? So yeah, they've sailed there.

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Speaker 4: So I come to Chicago a lot promoting and what's.

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Speaker 2: The beverage called so our listeners can get it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. It's soare it's a mocktail. It's a very

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Speaker 4: elevated experience, multi layer flavors. And I'm a non judging

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Speaker 4: non drinker, so you could use as a mixer as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love a non judging non drinker. We need

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Speaker 2: sore hats. Those are cute hats.

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Speaker 4: I will send you hats.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, send us the drink too.

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Speaker 5: But I'm I'm going to get pissed like you a

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Speaker 5: Jackie for the book if I don't actually get that

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Speaker 5: hat though.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, what are you kidding me? You're totally

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Speaker 4: getting the hat and drinks.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, you know we will hold it against

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Speaker 3: you if you don't send it to hold.

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Speaker 4: It against me. No, you will have the drinks and

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Speaker 4: they taste great. Your kids could drink it. They're all natural,

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Speaker 4: real juice being and kosher, gluten free. How nice you'll

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Speaker 4: like it? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Nice? Nice? Well, Marge, let's just get into it.

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Speaker 4: This seasons.

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Speaker 3: It's been so explosive, to say the least. How do

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Speaker 3: you feel now that filming is completely wrapped? Do you

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Speaker 3: feel relieved? What has changed? Let's hear it all.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think it much has really changed.

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Speaker 4: I think what I feel obviously, I feel vindicated. I

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Speaker 4: love that everybody sees what I've seen all along, and

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Speaker 4: I'm happy, you know, everybody the truth has come out, though,

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Speaker 4: you know, I really didn't find out the real hard

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Speaker 4: truth till a week before we film that finale.

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Speaker 3: So don't you love when God drops a nugget like

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Speaker 3: that on your lap when you're filming in Housewalk?

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Speaker 4: Yes, it was like a gift from God. I think

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Speaker 4: it just it was so serendipitous the way everything had happened.

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Speaker 4: The truth is, if they didn't have that burn party

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Speaker 4: about me, I would have never really found out what

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Speaker 4: Jackie had done.

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Speaker 3: Because what made you think to call Louis X? I

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Speaker 3: find out?

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Speaker 4: I called really the attorney. At first, I was trying

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Speaker 4: to get in touch with that attorney because I was like,

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Speaker 4: what could be in these law documents?

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Speaker 3: Why what attorney are you talking about her?

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Speaker 4: At the ex's attorney, I was trying to get in

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Speaker 4: out to your attorney? What could be in these court documents?

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Speaker 4: Is this even legal? I was like, what would they

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Speaker 4: be saying about me? What why would I be involved

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Speaker 4: in this I was never involved in this court case.

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Speaker 2: Can you clear something up for me? Because the timeline

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Speaker 2: I'm a very.

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Speaker 5: Like Yes, I think the timeline okay, Because first we

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Speaker 5: hear there's a lot of speculation and confusion regarding when

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Speaker 5: you started speaking to Louis X. First with Dolores, you

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Speaker 5: say you'd spoken to her and then say you'd seen

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Speaker 5: her at events. Then you said you had interacted with

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Speaker 5: her until New York, meaning last year's reunion, but then

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Speaker 5: you said you messaged her in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Then at the final sit down you say called okay.

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Speaker 5: Then at the final sit down you say you had

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Speaker 2: Why'd you initially fit on that I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I didn't fit on that. I didn't fit on that

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Speaker 4: I didn't never said I will tell you exactly.

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Speaker 3: Tell us the timeline I'm gonna tell.

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Speaker 4: I want to clear up the timeline.

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Speaker 5: Because the people are a little bit suspicious because they

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Speaker 5: said you've previously been just giving the info. You've previously

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Speaker 5: been accused by Siggy of reaching out to her husband's

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Speaker 2: Is that true?

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Speaker 6: And then also clear at the time. Okay, I'm going

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Speaker 6: to go sorry by story. Let's just see first. First

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Speaker 6: of all, poor Ciggy, the ex wife has passed away. Sean,

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Speaker 6: who is a lovely woman. She had reached out to me.

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Speaker 6: Sean reached out to me. Every A lot of people

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Speaker 4: She had reached out to me very nicely, and I

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Speaker 4: had known her and a lot of people on our

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Speaker 4: air re knew her. I never said anything. She had

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Speaker 4: written to me, you know, just to be nice. Was

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Speaker 4: very grateful that, you know, she said that I saw

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Speaker 4: who they were. That was it. There was no discussion whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: Sean was friends with a lot of people in our town,

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Speaker 4: and that was it. Segge clearly, we all know who

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Speaker 4: she is. She's severe issues, and I think everybody saw

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Speaker 4: who she really is. I never reached out to Sean.

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Speaker 4: That's a fact, every and everybody. She's a lovely she was.

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Speaker 4: She was a lovely woman, and a lot of my friends,

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Speaker 4: you know, were very sad when she had passed away.

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Speaker 4: So that's it. So Siggie could now make up stories

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Speaker 4: because Sean cannot say anything. Okay, too, the Vanessa story

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty one. I had never ever spoken to Vanessa.

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Speaker 4: She wasn't reaching out to me. You know, of course

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Speaker 2: This prior or after the Warrior video.

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Speaker 4: Prior and after the Warrior video. Twenty twenty one. Louis

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Speaker 4: I never you know, the video came out in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty one, right when we had started filming. Actually, I

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Speaker 4: had seen it, as the rest of the world had

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Speaker 4: seen it. I had no idea about it. Had I

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Speaker 4: had seen it on my way to a Joe Gorgan

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Speaker 4: comedy event with Melissa and Dolores. We were all like ah,

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Speaker 4: and then production was like, you guys got to talk

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Speaker 4: about this video. I knew nothing about it. And then

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Speaker 4: I told Teresa, get ahead of bit, make it not

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Speaker 4: a bit. Yeah. I wanted them just to clear it up.

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Speaker 4: I said, talk about it whatever it is. That season

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty one never had anything to do with Vanessa,

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Speaker 4: nothing like that. They were accusing me. Things were coming out,

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Speaker 4: So all the flashbacks they're showing when she was accusing

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Speaker 4: me of these things, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: there's I am saying I never spoke to I didn't

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Speaker 4: had nothing zero to do with it, and I would

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Speaker 4: never leak anything. I don't have to leak anything. Everybody

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Speaker 4: who wants to put things out there, be it ex

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Speaker 4: girl friend's, ex wives, knows how to put things out there.

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Speaker 4: I say it right to your face. I don't need

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Speaker 4: to put shit out there. I'll bring it right to

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Speaker 4: your face to say this is what's going on. I

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Speaker 4: don't need to leak to the blogs. I mean, that's nonsense.

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Speaker 3: Leave that to jen Aiden.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you leave that to other people on my cast

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Speaker 4: who hire people. So with that being said, twenty twenty two, okay,

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Speaker 4: after now, we had the next reunion coming up. When

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Speaker 4: they were accusing me, I was wearing the gold dress

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Speaker 4: and everything I knew they had speaken spoken to Laura.

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Speaker 4: At that point, we had disgusted that reunion. It was

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Speaker 4: not on the show. Yet it was not on the show.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is leading up to Laura, who we

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Speaker 2: never even really saw, and we talked about it.

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Speaker 4: No one ever even knew, but I knew, Melissa knew,

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Speaker 4: you know, and everything else. You know. Vanessa would DM

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Speaker 4: me and say I like your shoes. So when I

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Speaker 4: say to Dlores, Yeah, I had contact with her after

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Speaker 4: the Laura thing. I would then feel comfortable responding to her.

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Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying be a DM. So

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, yes, I spoke to her, meaning I had comfort.

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Speaker 4: I was comfortable enough to then respond to her like,

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Speaker 4: you know what, these people are sick. They're accusing me

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Speaker 4: of these things, and now they went and spoke to Laura,

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Speaker 4: or they're they're doing all these horrible Yes, where there

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Speaker 4: is smoke, there is fire, something's going on. Look what

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Speaker 4: they're doing. She would say to me, where'd you get

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Speaker 4: that sweater? Or you know, or so you were great

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Speaker 4: on this season. I love how you were on the reunion.

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Speaker 3: You know, things like that, mall talk.

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Speaker 4: Small small talk, okay, things like that nothing you know nothing,

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Speaker 4: or she you guys sn't Would she say she didn't

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Speaker 4: like something like oh my god, they're horrible, Yes, you know,

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Speaker 4: and I'd write, OI, you know little things like that

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Speaker 4: now we do. When I said I saw her at events,

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Speaker 4: she was at a joke org, a comedy event. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Did I do you find that odd?

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Speaker 4: Did I find it odd?

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Speaker 5: Like if I had a toxic X that I never

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Speaker 5: want to see her be a part of anything having

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Speaker 5: show up at events of people that he's now wet.

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Speaker 4: I think everybody wanted to expose him. I think both

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Speaker 4: of them truthfully were obsessed with each other. Because here's

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Speaker 4: where I'm going to say this to the next thing. Okay,

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Speaker 4: then the next thing happens. We have, you know, and

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Speaker 4: I don't even say. I'm like, I want nothing to

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Speaker 4: is bullshit. I want nothing to do with it. I

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Speaker 4: make up with them. I go to the wet, you know,

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Speaker 4: I go to the wedding, and then I find out,

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Speaker 4: you know, this whole smear campaign, you know, I the

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Speaker 4: bo diedle thing happened before their wedding. They said it

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Speaker 4: like I heard it, like come out of his mouth,

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Speaker 4: but I wasn't sure what happened. We watched back that season, right,

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Speaker 4: We're watching that season, and I hear all this bogetal

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I was like, this is crazy.

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Speaker 4: So when I say I watched that back. I was like,

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Speaker 4: this is nuts. And then to come to find out

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Speaker 4: his ex Vanessa has a lawsuit going on a restraining

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Speaker 4: water because it's involving Bodeedle. They did put a fake

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Speaker 4: client in her practice. That's a fact, regardless that the

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Speaker 4: restraining water was dropped and everything else. He was equally

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Speaker 4: is obsessed. Why would they bother putting a fake client

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Speaker 4: Dietle's involved. We were all upset. He says he's having

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Speaker 4: the entire cast investigated. He has all these things going on.

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Speaker 4: So then I was very comfortable ask Nor, what's going on?

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Speaker 4: Is this Bodetle thing real? What's happening here? My you know,

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Speaker 4: I hate to even talk about my son. My son

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Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you why. Okay, I had an affair.

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Speaker 5: So when that is actually a really good point, and

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Speaker 2: Isn't going to be the end of your child's world.

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Speaker 4: No, well, it's just as harmful and people, you know what,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, And Louis saying this about my son is

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Speaker 3: That was disgusting.

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Speaker 4: It's dangerous. It's actually dangerous because unfortunately he is igniting.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's jealousy that you were still Maine

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Speaker 4: Yes, I complimented the other ladies I had heard. I

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Speaker 4: jen Fessler and Rachel Fuda, And I said, they're fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Jackie was standing next to me. She said, how could

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Speaker 4: And with her book she did her first agent dumped her.

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Speaker 4: I don't care, it's true, dumped her. And basically diminished her.

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Speaker 2: Well aspiring story.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a story that a lot of people

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Speaker 3: You know, you helped her get the new editor right,

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Speaker 3: totally and regardless.

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Speaker 4: I wish you authentically lived what she has written because

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Speaker 4: You're bigger. You know you're going to go further than

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Speaker 3: When you show the screenshot you know house swiper y,

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Speaker 3: When was this? When was this text message about calling

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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, this is when she just wasn't tied.

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Speaker 5: She was at the game, right, didn't go to that

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Speaker 2: What was your response to the slob.

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Speaker 4: I said, I wrote, I could, I should look it up.

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Speaker 4: I would have well, all hell broke loose, she's excluded.

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Speaker 3: Do you think this all stems from her getting demoted?

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Speaker 4: I think this is a childhood wound. I don't know

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Speaker 4: And then she's going to ruin your life. How can

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Speaker 4: It's like keep your friends closed and keep your enemies, but.

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Speaker 3: Teresa is still sticking by her side. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: It's frenemies. It's frenemies, it's a it's an alliance, it's

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Speaker 4: an allegiance Jackie. Come on, do you think Jackie is

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Speaker 4: Jackie's afraid Teresa is going to do something god knows

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Speaker 5: You know, can you please tell me what was the

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Speaker 4: Know it was just showing the actual fact that Jackie

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Speaker 4: of that of her saying, let's talk off of social media.

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00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 4: I just I'm gonna make this very quick. Let's talk

436
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 4: off of social media, and my social media manager could

437
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 4: meet it. It also said could read it. I don't

438
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 4: want to ruin anybody's life. But she's so stupid talking

439
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 4: about Charusa. You know, she wanted to get dirt. She

440
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 4: didn't have one Vanessa over. She had two Vanessas over

441
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 4: because Louis has two Vanessa x'es. She had them both

442
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 4: at her house. They cut that, you know, did they

443
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 4: had to blank out the names. She had both of

444
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 4: them at her house in her living room.

445
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: What do you think made her?

446
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 5: Actually That's what I was just gonna ask, what do

447
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 5: you think actually mind? Because for a second Tam were

448
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 5: I talked about this.

449
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: I was like, for the for a second, you see.

450
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,479
Speaker 5: Her think like maybe I can get away with this

451
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 5: live for a second, but then all of a sudden,

452
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 5: you see she's just like, shit, I'm gonna.

453
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 3: Well, was it Melissa actually saying there's got to be

454
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 3: some kind of proof, so you should own it.

455
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think she knows that I am not going

456
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 4: to make this up. I really did not know. I

457
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 4: did not know, like I said, and I think she

458
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 4: kind of knows, like, holy crap, Margaret found out, but

459
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 4: that she was deceiving my I didn't care what she

460
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 4: did to Teresa. She was deceiving myself, and I don't care.

461
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 4: She wanted Teresa dead, she wanted to ruin Teresa's life.

462
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 4: She'd wanted her, you know, to do everything horrible. Why

463
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 4: did you do to me? What did you did?

464
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: You You never met with Vanessa.

465
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 4: No, I'm not meeting with Vanessa, nothing like that. I

466
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 4: had nothing to do with that. But I got Vanessa's

467
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 4: phone number. Listen, she sent me her phone number.

468
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: After that, there's there's there's another thing. I'm confused.

469
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 4: That's why, of course in the DM she sent me

470
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 4: your number. Please you know, please call me, Please call me.

471
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 3: We'd get that as a housewife, we get that ship

472
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 3: all the time, all the time, especially especially as somebody

473
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: that comes on their truth tellers.

474
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: And big moms with the dials. I had every right,

475
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 4: you know. Her attorney asked her to reach out to

476
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 4: all of us with everything going on after the beau

477
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 4: Dietal thing. She had a very big thing happening. Then

478
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 4: I then called her when I'm saying a week. But

479
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 4: when I found out about that burn party, I was like, Hi,

480
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 4: Di did die? I wanted to talk to your attorney.

481
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,719
Speaker 4: Is there something I should know about that came up

482
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 4: in the case? What could they possibly?

483
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 3: Why were you named in this case?

484
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 4: I wasn't named in that actual case, So why.

485
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 3: Did you get subpoenut or I.

486
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 4: Was subpoenaed in twenty twenty one?

487
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 3: Now, so why is it being brought up this season?

488
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 4: Is there's there? I don't know.

489
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 2: I do have to ask this question. Do you think

490
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: Teresa is a situation of her circumstance with the men

491
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: that she is in because she's not able to decipher

492
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 2: that the people that she surrounds herself with, or do

493
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: you think that she's complicit with all these guys.

494
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 4: I think she's complicit. I never thought that. I think

495
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 4: she is complicit. I do want to say this. When

496
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 4: she had come out of jail, I just met her.

497
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 4: I really bonded with her. She was very different. She

498
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 4: was always with Melissa and Joe. They were extremely good

499
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 4: to her. They were good times. She was single. She

500
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 4: was always at their shorehouse. They included her all the

501
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 4: time I was with her. We had a lot of laughs.

502
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 4: She was a horrible grudgeholder. She would still say some

503
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 4: things to me, you know. She had a buck up

504
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 4: or butt about Melissa a lot of times, and I

505
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 4: was like stop. And I would try and bring them together.

506
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 4: Even when we were in Ireland. I would have private

507
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 4: conversations with her, but she was doing things behind the scenes.

508
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 4: I don't I think she's very complicit with this behavior.

509
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 4: And I think her main goal in life is to

510
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 4: protect her husband and she doesn't care about her career

511
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 4: or anything else about that. I mean, I think proof

512
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 4: of that is how when I just watched the alternate reunion,

513
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 4: how she could defend his actions. She should have immediately

514
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 4: if my husband did that, if jokeing, but she never

515
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 4: would said I would go bizarre I would be like,

516
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 4: are you insane? How dare you? You know what I'm saying?

517
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 4: He is the he is the demise of her.

518
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 3: And I'm so happy that Delores stuck up because I

519
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: was like, come on, come on, Delora, like because she's

520
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: been you know, Switzerland, and I love her. I think

521
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 3: she's great on the show. But wrong is wrong. And

522
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 3: I was so happy that she called it out.

523
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 4: And she and she called it out, and I was

524
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 4: very very happy about that. I wasn't in that room.

525
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 4: I was so happy to see that, and it made

526
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 4: me very very happy that.

527
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: How long did the filming take for that Rail's episode?

528
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? It was it most of the day.

529
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 3: Was it the day?

530
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 4: I wish, you know, I wish we would have seen

531
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 4: more confessional because we all had much longer confessionals. I

532
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 4: wish it would just would have been the highlights of

533
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 4: that episode.

534
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 5: I wish it would have been a lot of things

535
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 5: that it wasn't. I gotta be honest, I was that

536
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 5: was a rough go for me that that night. Where

537
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 5: do you think truthfully from your gut? The show goes

538
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 5: from here?

539
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 4: I you know what it's it changes every day, Teddy

540
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 4: and Tamra, it changes every day the way I see.

541
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 4: I feel like I don't know. I really don't know.

542
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: I don't is there any part of you Thattimes?

543
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 4: I think it's just like, could it be like the

544
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 4: bonds that, like you saw our room was so happy,

545
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 4: right and we were great.

546
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 3: Well, we don't have we don't need all happy in housewives,

547
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: so we don't need all have to have.

548
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 4: But we can argue and make up.

549
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: Well, what are your thoughts on Danielle doubling down and

550
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: saying that she actually wished she would have killed Jenaden.

551
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 4: I was like, I wish she didn't say that. I

552
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: wish you didn't say that. I mean she was I

553
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 4: was like Danielle, I mean you know, I was like,

554
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 4: that's sat Island. That's not our strict figure. And because

555
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 4: I really loved Danielle, but I think she realized so

556
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 4: many things when she was so set jennifered and when

557
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 4: Jennifereden said that, she then realized I think it all

558
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 4: came into her head that Jennifer was the ones putting

559
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 4: those things out online about her. Because those things were

560
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 4: said about me online, she just real everything like became

561
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 4: a reality to her, like, oh my god, these people

562
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 4: have been putting these things out online about me. They

563
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 4: were never my friends. They were doing these horrible things.

564
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 4: I think it just like overwhelmed her.

565
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: Is there anybody on the show that you think will

566
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 3: absolutely not be asked back?

567
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: I mean, oh, yeah, for sure, because.

568
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 3: A network talk to you at all about what the

569
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: future is yet yep, no.

570
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: No, I mean they say it publicly, they don't know.

571
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 4: It could be rebooted, it could be some people coming back.

572
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 4: Whatever it is, it's been a great run. I've been

573
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: very blessed. I feel like, you know, I feel.

574
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 3: I said what I said.

575
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 4: I go out on top. That's the way I go

576
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: out with a clean you know. Yeah.

577
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 3: The one thing I said when I was fired is like,

578
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 3: don't don't be sad that it's over. Be happy that

579
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 3: it happened. And in fact, Andy texts me immediately, and

580
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: now I just saw that he said something like that publicly.

581
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: And the sad thing is it's been a big part

582
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: of your guys' life for a long time, and it's

583
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: really change is hard, and being out of you know,

584
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: out of it is tough, but you know, life goes on.

585
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, it's a part of It's a beautiful part

586
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 4: of my life painful and a lot of times I

587
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 4: have businesses. I have a great family that thank god,

588
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 4: you know.

589
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 5: Speaking of how is so because I don't know that

590
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 5: we got a house and resolution.

591
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: What is Joe's health currently?

592
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 4: Thanks thank you for asking. He does have prostate cancer

593
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 4: really announced on the show. But they also do genomic

594
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: testing now and his is very very slow growing like

595
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 4: ninety seven percent, So they treat it now with active

596
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 4: surveillance because his is very early stages. So he gets

597
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 4: checked every few months and they don't do any treatment

598
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 4: unless it changes.

599
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: And his head it gets to a certain size, right.

600
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 4: It gets to a certain size, and he's not changed

601
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 4: at all. So we're lucky his won't change because you know,

602
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 4: Joe's not young, so his might not change for ten years.

603
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 5: I was I was going to say for our listeners,

604
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 5: how often now is he going back to get.

605
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 4: Like four or five months every Yeah?

606
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 5: With my arm it's every three months I have to go.

607
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 5: So that's it's so it's the same with your prosject.

608
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 4: You've had a lot, and I'm happy you're doing well

609
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: and everything's great, and thank you just like lot, I

610
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 4: know it's a lot for you and I'm sorry.

611
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 5: Thank you, and we appreciate you on the show, and

612
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 5: we know that it's the beginning. I gotta say I

613
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 5: was hard on you at the beginning of the season,

614
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 5: but then it like kind of came around.

615
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, I get where.

616
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 4: I get it.

617
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: It's not how you start, it's how you end on

618
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 3: this show exactly.

619
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 4: And I mean I'd rather go out with you.

620
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: Know, high yep, And you went out with a high

621
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: and those flowers, those flowers, funeral flowers you sent. I disagree.

622
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: She didn't like that. I thought it it was I

623
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: had contic it was conic move, iconic move.

624
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 4: By the way, the world of what Teddy that is,

625
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 4: let me tell you they are having a burned part

626
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 4: about me with an attorney, okay, and on Housewives imagine.

627
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, like I said, my attorney's

628
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 4: on Madison Avenue. This is next to the meth clinic,

629
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: really above a pizza parlor, okay, and doing this and

630
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: you know, trying to my reputation. I have a business.

631
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 4: I do all of these things, uh, trying to hurt

632
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: my Walmart business? Do you sense? I was like, I'm

633
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 4: going to bring some living into it and make a

634
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 4: joke about it. You want to you want to do something,

635
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm going to show you, you know what

636
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 4: you really are. You look, it was the death of

637
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 4: your dignity. You guys made answers at you.

638
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: I thought it was amazing. Was there was there any

639
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: part of you that was upset with production? For a low?

640
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: Even though it failed, it was probably better that it

641
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: did good for you. But at any point where you're like,

642
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: are you kidding me? You guys, you're allowing this?

643
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 5: Yeah?

644
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 4: At first, at first I was like, what are you nuts?

645
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: You're gonna have your attorney go on there? But I

646
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 4: you know, but then I thought about it. I was like,

647
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: I did nothing wrong. There's this is such nonsense. What

648
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: are they gonna say?

649
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 5: I'm sorry looking at that attorney where you're like, oh shit,

650
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 5: he really think it looks bad?

651
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: No? I know.

652
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I know my cousin Vinny.

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Speaker 4: No, I know him very well. I see him all

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 5: If one was going to return take yourself out of it?

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Speaker 2: Is it Melissa or Teresa?

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00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 4: Melissa? What are you kids? I mean Melissa? She brings

658
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: so much light and happiness and fine and.

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00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: I love Melissa, and I love Joey and I love

660
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: that she kept the classy this season and the pose

661
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: off at the end was perfect.

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Speaker 4: Like yes, I mean, there's no question in my mind,

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00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 4: but triumphs over evil, you know, as Matt Matt Rogers said,

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Speaker 4: it's just like, as long as Teresa's with you know,

665
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: there's too much darkness and toxicity when you're blaming everybody

666
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 4: else for your problem. That's just it.

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00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Quick question. Do you think if it came down to

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Speaker 3: it and they said we don't want you back to

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Speaker 3: Visa because Luis too toxic? Would she dump them?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: Do you think that they are going to stay together.

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Speaker 4: For now? I think for now she really I think

674
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: she really really loves him. I think she really really does.

675
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's I don't I think for now.

676
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Speaker 4: Do I think this is forever? No, just my opinion.

677
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Speaker 3: I just hope that if it's not forever, she gets

678
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: out of it.

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Speaker 4: I wish and this and I am saying this. I

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Speaker 4: wish no ill on them if.

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Speaker 5: They if if she were to break up with Louis,

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Speaker 5: do you think there's a chance that you could reconcile

683
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Speaker 5: your friendship.

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Speaker 4: I think she's got to go to a detax. I

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Speaker 4: think she is to go to like where they wash

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Speaker 4: your warrior. What did Patty Hurst go to the Warrior video?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 1: Not that?

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Speaker 4: No, but I think she has to go.

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Speaker 3: I don't I cleanse her soul. I say that again,

691
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: she got to cleanse her soul.

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Speaker 4: That your soul. But I don't a deep wiring, like

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Speaker 4: a deep briefing. What are these sense But I don't

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Speaker 4: know what it is, but something I've never seen anybody

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00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 4: so easily manipulated in my life. I just haven't. I know.

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Speaker 3: It's sad, it's so sad.

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Speaker 4: It's it. But I want I wish no ill on them.

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00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 4: I want them to go on their merry way. I am.

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00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 4: They're just a little too upset.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, March, I love you, and I don't want

701
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Speaker 3: this to be the end of Jersey as we know it.

702
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: I know it's the end as we know.

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Speaker 4: It, but I hope I shall the interview whatever, whatever

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Speaker 4: the Bravo God say, you know that's the call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, well, we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 5: We can't wait to have our sure hats for the

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Speaker 5: next hats and drinks and little mocktails.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you said thanks guys, have fun in Chicago.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, bye bye,