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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: The Netflix special DMI Cooper, where are You? Very entertaining?

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Speaker 1: Graphically by the way, wonderful and excellent. It was really

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Speaker 1: that was sharp, and I think that they did a

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Speaker 1: fair treatment of your theory in that special as sort

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Speaker 1: of a part two of what you went through with

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Speaker 1: the History Channel. Were you unhappy in the end with

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Speaker 1: what they included in what they left out? Well, listen,

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Speaker 1: they Netflix knew exactly what their audience was, and we

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Speaker 1: have to remember now this. You know, people under fifty

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Speaker 1: five are growing up on social media and not reading books,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, and so they took a show and

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Speaker 1: decided to do it all about characters, not about the evidence.

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Speaker 1: And that's okay. For example, we had one hundred and

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Speaker 1: six pieces of evidence, only three we're on the show.

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Speaker 1: Let's true. It was our word versus their word, that

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Speaker 1: the Cooper rights versus our team. Let's be honest. Our

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Speaker 1: team came out looking like the adults in the room.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I have a handful handful of things

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Speaker 1: that I would like to have seen. I hope you

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Speaker 1: don't mind, but I want to I want to remind

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Speaker 1: the audience. They said absolutely if they want everything. They're

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Speaker 1: fifty pages of end notes in the back of the

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Speaker 1: only Cooper book that has not won three awards for

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Speaker 1: true crime. And again, I'm not complimenting myself. This is

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Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, take a bow, take a victory lap.

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Speaker 1: I'm all about that. You have nothing to be ashamed

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Speaker 1: of there, And I think that's yeah. I think that's again.

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Speaker 1: It speaks to both your ability, the history you have

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Speaker 1: in treating this subject soberly and the fact that you've

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Speaker 1: been doing original work on it, as opposed to so

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Speaker 1: many other people who have like one piece that they

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Speaker 1: bring to the to the puzzle and they make a

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Speaker 1: whole book out of it, and the rest of it's

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Speaker 1: kind of you know, backfilled from other things exactly. And

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Speaker 1: you know, they all have their theories, but we haven't.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have a forty member cold case team

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Speaker 1: and one hundred and six pieces of evidence. Here's something

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Speaker 1: I want to rattle off so that the public has

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Speaker 1: an idea. DNA. We found DNA from his water bottle

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Speaker 1: when we did the only confrontation with mister Axtron San

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Speaker 1: Diego in twenty thirteen, and we confronted him. He left

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Speaker 1: the water bottle, We grabbed it. We compared it to

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Speaker 1: one of the six dB Cooper letters that were sent. Afterward,

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Speaker 1: we brought the DNA to the FBI. They refused to

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Speaker 1: accept it. Same thing happened with the digging up of

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Speaker 1: the parachute. We were given the exact escape route. We

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Speaker 1: were told to go down a particular canyon ten miles in,

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Speaker 1: ten miles from the nearest home. And what do you know,

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Speaker 1: they did nothing when we handed them the materials. So

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Speaker 1: that was the frustration. The DNA would have been great.

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Speaker 1: There was handwriting matches. If you remember the second letter

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Speaker 1: where Dan Cooper signed it. Well, we brought in one

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Speaker 1: of the world's greatest experts in handwriting and he said,

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Speaker 1: this appears to be the same person. Again, nothing was

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Speaker 1: done with that. Uh and uh. You know one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite moments. Everybody said, well, your suspect never admitted it. Well,

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Speaker 1: yes he did. When we closed the case in twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: a very smart reporter tracked him down and said, do

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Speaker 1: you deny or or do you admit your Cooper And

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Speaker 1: he said, for the first time, at seventy four years old,

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Speaker 1: there's no denial. Whatsoever, my dear, Now that was in

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Speaker 1: on the show. That's a but let's highlight thing, because

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on the on the DNA thing. It's like,

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Speaker 1: why not just do that? You know that that's weird

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Speaker 1: to me that d F bad into it. But when

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Speaker 1: people that I've interviewed when I was reporting stuff, and

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Speaker 1: they gave vague answers on purpose, partly because they liked

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Speaker 1: may have enjoyed the attention, and they were kind of,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the sub conscious mind, wanted to continue

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, or maybe maybe Robert Xtraw had a slip

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is that wasn't he didn't say come out

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Speaker 1: I don't. I wish that were more definitive that respect, right,

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Speaker 1: and bottom line is when you have one hundred and

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Speaker 1: six piece of evidence, all pointing in the same way

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Speaker 1: it if it looks like a duck and quacks like

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Speaker 1: is the codes. Now some people say, well, you can

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Speaker 1: anything in now. No, you had to be from Vietnam

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Speaker 1: to know the language. This is the same codebook that

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Speaker 1: same book. Well, if it worked for the Japanese, I

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Speaker 1: worked on the Japanese, why wouldn't it work for Vietnam vets.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was the weakest part. I know you,

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Speaker 1: perhaps most viewers having done, you know, a half dozen

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Speaker 1: that aside for the second because I thought some of

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Speaker 1: the other thing I'd like to give you a chance

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Speaker 1: to refute was the fact that they for the first time,

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Speaker 1: you know you have in your in the course of

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Speaker 1: your work. The flight attendant look at that photo of

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Speaker 1: Robert Rackstraw, your number one primo guy, and say not him. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's not what she said. You have to remember, she said,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Now you should understand. The two

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Speaker 1: compare what happened to them to a man putting a

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Speaker 1: PTSD for the rest of your life. I interviewed all

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Speaker 1: I'm no shrink, but I understand when people have lapses

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Speaker 1: We put down Billy Mitchell in front of six pictures

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Speaker 1: never be a police officer. That's saying, here's the stacking

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Speaker 1: of the deck. All these are the same people. Is

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Speaker 1: this the guy you saw? And she even said I

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Speaker 1: it back on you and again, Tom, I'm on your team, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I whether I agree here or not, I

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Speaker 1: think you did great work. So but how do you

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Speaker 1: off of death row because somebody pointed, said that's the guy,

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Speaker 1: the person that you like who says, yep, that's him.

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Speaker 1: Why is it any different than when Tina Mucklow, the

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Speaker 1: tell you it's a collective decision. Everything from the handwriting matches,

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Speaker 1: of the buried parachute. We got its second hand and

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Speaker 1: reroute as we did. After eight months, the team look

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Speaker 1: has never been wrong. And now they're on Zodiac, now

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Speaker 1: and they are not liars and everything they've presented and

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Speaker 1: when they don't match, we pull it out. You know.

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Speaker 1: smoldered and dripped. And he said, that was dunked in protectives.

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Speaker 1: on fire. But in those two wars, that's what they did.

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Speaker 1: They dunked it. And he said, you have a parachute,

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Speaker 1: no potato sack. Nobody would spend the money onto a

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Speaker 1: retardant on a potato sack. Right, That's exactly where we

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Speaker 1: And I will also share with you something you don't know. Um.

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Speaker 1: The book was bought. Guess who bought the book. Robert W. Raxtrow.

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Speaker 1: Robert Raxtraw made notes and notes and notes in the book.

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Speaker 1: And you know what he did. He went online. And

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Speaker 1: what he did is he went online desperately seeking attorneys

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Speaker 1: so he wouldn't be uncovered. Six attorneys, and I have

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Speaker 1: all their emails, and I have all his desperate requests offline,

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