Speaker 1: Look out. He surely films to be buried with. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian, an actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director, a harvester restaurant, and I love film. As
Speaker 1: Winston S. Churchill once said, success is not final, failure
Speaker 1: is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's a slow, boring section in Vertigo, but persevere and
Speaker 1: the rewards are bountiful. Oh good shout, Winston checks. I
Speaker 1: mean Vertigo is one of the greatest films of all time.
Speaker 1: Every week I'm a special guest over. I tell them
Speaker 1: they've died, then I get them to discuss their life
Speaker 1: through the films that mean the most of them. Previous
Speaker 1: guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Jamila Jamil and even
Speaker 1: said plambles. But this week is the brilliant actor and
Speaker 1: podcaster Meredith Salenger. Head over to the patroon at patreon
Speaker 1: dot com forward slash Brett Goldsteine, where you're getting extra
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of chat with Meredith. We talk about beginnings
Speaker 1: and endings. You get a secret, you get the whole
Speaker 1: episode uncut and ad free and as a video. Check
Speaker 1: it out over at patriot dot Com. Forward Slash Brett
Speaker 1: Goldstein The Ted Lasso Season two finale as tomorrow on
Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus. You can watch the whole two seasons
Speaker 1: in one go on Friday if you want. You can
Speaker 1: also watch Soulmate season one on Amazon Prime. Watch them both,
Speaker 1: you love them? Why not live your life? So Meredith
Speaker 1: Salinger is a very funny and very good actor who
Speaker 1: has just started her own podcast, Did you get my text?
Speaker 1: With her husband and hero friend of the show, Patton Oswald.
Speaker 1: We recorded this last week on Zoom and it was
Speaker 1: a lot of fun that did get slightly derailed when
Speaker 1: I found out she was once in Annie. I think
Speaker 1: you're going to love it. So that is it for now.
Speaker 1: I very much hope you enjoy episode one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty seven of Films to Be Buried With. Hello, and
Speaker 1: welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is me
Speaker 1: Brett Goldstein, and I'm joined today by a hero, an actor,
Speaker 1: a podcaster, an activist, a Disney legend, a teenage legend,
Speaker 1: an adult legend, and a superstar person live in front
Speaker 1: of me. Now, Please welcome to the show. The wonderful.
Speaker 1: It's marder. I feel like all the muppets are going
Speaker 1: way happy. I'm sad your muppet poster is not behind you.
Speaker 1: How are you. I'm so happy to see you. It's
Speaker 1: so lovely see you, married of Challenger. You are in La.
Speaker 1: I am in La, but we're doing this on Zae
Speaker 1: because you know there's a pandemic and easier to film
Speaker 1: this way. It's lovely to see you now. Since I
Speaker 1: met you, you are for people that don't know you,
Speaker 1: Natty Gang, and that's how I know you, Natty Gang.
Speaker 1: And you are also now doing a podcast yourself that's
Speaker 1: with your husband, friend of the show Patterns. Tell me, yes,
Speaker 1: tell you about it, tell me why? Oh god, I'm
Speaker 1: so fascinated by I've listened to it. It's really great,
Speaker 1: and I'm always fascinated by. Yeah, but I'm fascinated when
Speaker 1: couples do stuff together, only because I would be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't want anyone hearing my conversations
Speaker 1: at home. Well, first of all, I don't know how
Speaker 1: far you've gotten into the podcast, but the third episode,
Speaker 1: we literally I start the show laughing hysterically, but only
Speaker 1: because we were just in the most massive fight right
Speaker 1: before we started recording, and he's like, I'm gonna leave
Speaker 1: and he was going to walk out the he didn't
Speaker 1: want to record the podcast, and I was it was
Speaker 1: the only time we had. I was like, sit down,
Speaker 1: be professional, lets us do this. And then we hit
Speaker 1: record and I just first laughing because I was just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you guys, you don't even know the huge fight we
Speaker 1: just had. And the whole podcast was adorable and charming,
Speaker 1: and we were laughing and we had such a good time.
Speaker 1: And then it ended and I was like, do you
Speaker 1: see do you see why I said to do what
Speaker 1: we were arguing about? And it started right up again
Speaker 1: and we got in a huge fight. But I was
Speaker 1: very proud of us that we were able to pull
Speaker 1: it together. But it is Is it like doing it?
Speaker 1: I've never done it, but I've I know people who have.
Speaker 1: Is it like doing couples canceling? Where like you're you're
Speaker 1: kind of on together and then it ends and you
Speaker 1: still have to talk about what happened in front of
Speaker 1: that audience. No, that's the beauty of our podcast. I
Speaker 1: never have to speak to him ever in my in
Speaker 1: our whole marriage. It's amazing a week. Yeah, well that's
Speaker 1: the whole you know. The bit is basically the show
Speaker 1: is called did you get My Text? Right? And when
Speaker 1: we first even met, our whole romance was via text.
Speaker 1: We met through a mutual friend on Facebook and she
Speaker 1: invited fifteen people to a dinner party and everybody went
Speaker 1: but him, And the next day I texted the thread
Speaker 1: on Facebook best dinner party ever, dude, you miss the
Speaker 1: best fucking lasagna. And then he happened to be online
Speaker 1: and he DMed me and he's like, oh man, I
Speaker 1: was supposed to be there and I was online at
Speaker 1: the same time, and so for like two hours, we
Speaker 1: just texted back and forth all through Facebook for three
Speaker 1: months straight, two hours every night. We never met, we
Speaker 1: never spoke on the phone. We're very comfortable texting each other.
Speaker 1: And so during COVID, yeah he's home. We were home
Speaker 1: and his comedy tours got canceled in a show was
Speaker 1: put on hiatus and everything. But he's down, like in
Speaker 1: his room and I'm in my room and we're just
Speaker 1: texting all day. And so the podcast is like gives
Speaker 1: us an opportunity to sit down and just talk about
Speaker 1: the things. But then we don't have to talk to
Speaker 1: each other. It's that's so funny. Yeah, and you could
Speaker 1: just go back to texting. Yeah, that's great. So people
Speaker 1: say x Acobeg has done no good, but he did
Speaker 1: this one thing, he did one good thing. He did
Speaker 1: one good thing. That's amazing. And tell me how it
Speaker 1: is being married to a very successful, working stand up
Speaker 1: comedian and the fact that he goes away a lot.
Speaker 1: Is that a lifestyle that works well? As in is
Speaker 1: it good that you have lots of time apart or
Speaker 1: do you? Well? I think because I didn't meet him
Speaker 1: or get married till I was forty seven, and so
Speaker 1: I was so used to being single girl on my
Speaker 1: own that when we first moved in together, and I'd
Speaker 1: never lived with anyone before, lots of tons of boyfriends,
Speaker 1: but you know, they were all really poor choices, super
Speaker 1: fun adventures, not someone you want to live with or
Speaker 1: bring home to your parents. So when we first got
Speaker 1: married and we were living together, I was always like,
Speaker 1: whenever I lived alone and people came over and like,
Speaker 1: can I get your drink? What can I do for you?
Speaker 1: When you sit down and you chat and you're like
Speaker 1: focused on the other person, But when you live with someone,
Speaker 1: you can't just be focused on that person all day long.
Speaker 1: And it was sort of like, this is so weird.
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do with him in the
Speaker 1: house and we're not and he's working, and it was
Speaker 1: so weird. So it was great when he went away, right,
Speaker 1: And it's great. I still got to be my forty
Speaker 1: seven year old, fun single self and be married and
Speaker 1: have the love and security at home, and it's a
Speaker 1: good mix. That's so cool. I normally said this to
Speaker 1: Guess before we start recording. I realized that I didn't
Speaker 1: set it to you, which is, if I ask you
Speaker 1: anything too personal you don't wish, you're uncomfortable, please say don't,
Speaker 1: don't include that, and we'll cut it. But I forgot
Speaker 1: to study that up front. But I'm telling you that
Speaker 1: now because my next question is no, it's just interesting.
Speaker 1: You don't have to answer it. But so before so
Speaker 1: you were forty, said when you got married, what was
Speaker 1: the longest relationship you had before pattern, Oh, Patton is
Speaker 1: not my longest relationship even yet. My first boyfriend and
Speaker 1: I were three years. That was high school into college.
Speaker 1: Then my college boyfriend was four years. Then I graduated college,
Speaker 1: and then I had a boyfriend for two years and
Speaker 1: then nine months, a year and a half, nine months
Speaker 1: like so, yeah, I think four years was the longest.
Speaker 1: And Pat and I will be married for four years
Speaker 1: on November four congratulations. So on November fifth, he will
Speaker 1: be my longest relationship. Oh man, this is really exciting.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna remember to send him a message. Know you
Speaker 1: the message? You did it? I'll make you a note
Speaker 1: of that. Thank you for answering that question. Are you
Speaker 1: comfortable that I asked it and we can cutch it? Brett,
Speaker 1: I have a feeling I'm really an open book. There's
Speaker 1: not much. I pretty much say everything. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's appropriate, but I do. Okay, that's sorry. Nice.
Speaker 1: So something else I've forgotten to tell you? Oh no, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm annoyed. I didn't tell you this because I
Speaker 1: usually I don't know how consistent I am with my memory.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm an elder or there's just
Speaker 1: too much in my brain to keep everything in. But
Speaker 1: I should have definitely told you this. Bit um. I'll
Speaker 1: just say it and then and then we'll deal with it.
Speaker 1: You've died, Yeah, you're dead, terrible? Oh boy, let's say sorry,
Speaker 1: how did you die? Well, I hope this isn't actually
Speaker 1: how I die, But I have always thought I will
Speaker 1: die from a broken heart. I know that sounds utterly
Speaker 1: romance whatever, but I feel things so intensely, and I'm
Speaker 1: empathetic to such a huge degree, like I feel the
Speaker 1: pain of other people. If I see something physical happen
Speaker 1: to someone, I literally I can feel it. If I
Speaker 1: even see the hint of emotion in someone, I feel it.
Speaker 1: Even the thought or the idea of something happening to
Speaker 1: someone in my life, like my parents, I can't handle it.
Speaker 1: I I've always thought I will die from a broken heart.
Speaker 1: I really believe that might be the case. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably what happened. So I'm dead from
Speaker 1: a broken heart. Break your heart, I'm assuming it was Patton,
Speaker 1: that fucking monster so many yeah for those four years. Now,
Speaker 1: I get my heart gets broken over beautiful things and loss.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think anyone will actually like hurt me
Speaker 1: or break my heart. I think you know, when you
Speaker 1: hear about those, something will be so beautiful that it
Speaker 1: will break your heart. I really get that. Maybe it
Speaker 1: will be pattern being so wonderful. We'll see um but really,
Speaker 1: like you know those stories of the people who grow
Speaker 1: old together and then like the grandma dies and then
Speaker 1: two days later the grandpa died. Yeah, I feel like that,
Speaker 1: but not that. I don't know. There's so many ways
Speaker 1: to die of a broken heart, but a beautiful broken heart.
Speaker 1: So you die like in your sleep thinking of the thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah probably, yes, you just fool as leaping in like
Speaker 1: it would be so crushing that it would just be
Speaker 1: like just so crushing it would just how old? How
Speaker 1: old do you think you are when you die? Well?
Speaker 1: I really think ninety eight is a good time to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want to hang on the extra two years
Speaker 1: for the letter from the queen? Oh will she give
Speaker 1: you a letter? You get a bath to cuf from
Speaker 1: the queen if you make it to a hundred. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm missiving by the time you get two hundred. She might,
Speaker 1: I don't. I know, you might be excited about having
Speaker 1: the queen write you a letter, and that would be
Speaker 1: super cool. But if that happened in America, I would choose, Like,
Speaker 1: if you could live to a one hundred and Obama
Speaker 1: would write you a letter, I would live to a hundred. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: let let's text invite that. I'd say that's worth having
Speaker 1: around for a letter from a Obama. Yeah, you get
Speaker 1: a left from Obama, but I'm I'm planning on meeting
Speaker 1: him before that. I'm happy not to meet the clean
Speaker 1: I just wanted to birthday A hundred. Yeah, that'd be good.
Speaker 1: Then you need to like your glasses to see it.
Speaker 1: And but yeah, ninety eight it's a good time to
Speaker 1: go by the way. Yeah. And also, I'll just put
Speaker 1: this out there to anyone who's near me. If anything
Speaker 1: happens to me where I'm not like at peak capacity,
Speaker 1: I'm good to go. Okay, you say that, and it's
Speaker 1: something I think about a lot. But like, so, what
Speaker 1: do you want? What's tapacity? No, I'm not asking, but
Speaker 1: if you're not a peak capacity, what would you like
Speaker 1: your loved ones to do well? I distinctly remember when
Speaker 1: my grandma was in hospice and she was not doing well.
Speaker 1: In my stepmom, who I love and who's very close,
Speaker 1: she was on the other side of my grandma and
Speaker 1: I was on the We were both on the other
Speaker 1: side of the bed kind of just looking at her,
Speaker 1: and we're both really really sad. I and I looked
Speaker 1: up at myself. Moment I said, if I'm ever, if
Speaker 1: I'm ever like this, just pull the plug, and she goes,
Speaker 1: I will like. We were both very adamantly like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever you need, boink, not even a thought it's going
Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, so yeah, okay, pull that plug. So
Speaker 1: do you worry about death or do you just worry
Speaker 1: about not having a great life. I don't worry about death.
Speaker 1: I don't worry about it. I hope it does. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm very I'm a very cautious person. I'm often a
Speaker 1: scared person, Like I'm a very prepared person at night,
Speaker 1: if i'm walking, I'm always like I'm I'm always afraid
Speaker 1: of like being attacked or murdered. That that's not going
Speaker 1: to happen to me. By the way, this is not
Speaker 1: one of those premonition things. We're oh shit, she got
Speaker 1: attacked and murdered and looks she was on that podcast
Speaker 1: and she said that that's not happen. I'm gonna from
Speaker 1: old age. We've made that clear. But I'm careful. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think happens when you die? Do you
Speaker 1: think there's enough to life? I think there is a
Speaker 1: return to a universal soul kind of a thing. I think.
Speaker 1: I remember at my grandpa's funeral, I saw him in
Speaker 1: the casket. He was the only person I've ever seen
Speaker 1: who was who had died. And I looked at the
Speaker 1: casket and I looked at him and I was like
Speaker 1: looking at him and it was him, but it wasn't him.
Speaker 1: And I was like, where are you? Like I looked up.
Speaker 1: I was like, like you could feel that the you
Speaker 1: could feel it wasn't him. And then I thought, you're
Speaker 1: just you know, they say you're like like a cup
Speaker 1: of water and then you go back into the ocean
Speaker 1: and you're all just in the ocean together, or like
Speaker 1: in the stars and the twilight and all the you're
Speaker 1: just all kind of your soul whatever that is, it's
Speaker 1: all still starlight around. That's what it kind of feels
Speaker 1: like to me. I left that. But I also think
Speaker 1: it feels like you can still communicate with your people,
Speaker 1: you know, you can still feel that. My daughter, her
Speaker 1: mom passed away when she was seven, and I still
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, I still feel her presence very much.
Speaker 1: We do as a family. We talk about her all
Speaker 1: the time, and you know, I often joke with Alice
Speaker 1: like that we're still co parenting. Like I said to Alice,
Speaker 1: you better you need to eat your eyes because I
Speaker 1: was always the fun aunt and then now I'm a mom,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, you have to eat your vegetables and
Speaker 1: you have to do this. And I'm like, look, I
Speaker 1: promised her that I'm going to take care of you,
Speaker 1: So come on, don't make don't just do it because
Speaker 1: you know, don't make me look bad. Yeah, yeah, that's nice.
Speaker 1: I wonder that thing you made me think that when
Speaker 1: you were talking about your granddad's body, that it's like
Speaker 1: like marionettes, Like the soul is the strings, and then
Speaker 1: when you cut the strings, a buddy doesn't have life
Speaker 1: in it, so then you're rough up here feels like it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely two separate things because you're just
Speaker 1: a dead body laying on a let's you're just a
Speaker 1: dead body. What was the thing unless you're you know nothing,
Speaker 1: what stopped? I mean, if your heart, your heart stopped.
Speaker 1: But but you can restart your heart or whatever. But like,
Speaker 1: where's the thing that actually animates you put all the
Speaker 1: tubes together, make the body, put everything together. It's right there,
Speaker 1: but what actually makes it go USh like life? What
Speaker 1: is that? And that thing is still twilighting about, you
Speaker 1: know when they do heart transplants that I mean, I
Speaker 1: could I believe this to be true and I'm not
Speaker 1: a scientist, but I won't. I'm not technically aside, despite
Speaker 1: what my spotlight CV says, in my special skills, I
Speaker 1: was told this by a doctor that basically a heart
Speaker 1: transplant you get the heart and the heart it is
Speaker 1: just the replacement heart is just you know, there's no
Speaker 1: battery in it, there's nothing to it. It's just a
Speaker 1: bit of stuff and you put the bit of stuff
Speaker 1: in and you sew it into the thing and then
Speaker 1: there's a moment where nothing happens and then life happens.
Speaker 1: And that it's like that moment where the heart either
Speaker 1: beats or doesn't beat. It isn't because they've electrocuted it
Speaker 1: or you know, nothing's it's the spark of life. And
Speaker 1: I mean, people probably listen to this guy and you're
Speaker 1: absolutely mad that, but really it is something. Clearly it's
Speaker 1: something you know, no one knows what it is, and
Speaker 1: for anyone to say they know what it is, it's
Speaker 1: such a bullshit. But we can all think what we
Speaker 1: want to think, but clearly it's something. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: Now I've got good news. There is a heaven. It's
Speaker 1: very nice. It's filled with your favorite things. What's your
Speaker 1: favorite thing? Oh, my goodness, my one favorite thing. Just
Speaker 1: you know, a beautiful cool breeze on a hot day
Speaker 1: with this it just laying down and you know, chilling
Speaker 1: right in the sun. Well, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: That's what heaven is made up. It's a hot day,
Speaker 1: but there's a cool breeze all the time, and you're
Speaker 1: laying in the sun. It's wonderful. There's that everywhere. But
Speaker 1: there's also squeening rooms because they show a lot of
Speaker 1: films in headed and that they are indoors because it's
Speaker 1: much better for the dark anyway. But don't worry about
Speaker 1: that because you can step out and get back in
Speaker 1: the sun between films. In this heaven, they're obsessed with describing.
Speaker 1: You're describing patterns heaven. By the way, all he wants
Speaker 1: to do is sit in a movie theater all day
Speaker 1: long and watch movies. And I want to be on
Speaker 1: the balcony in the sun. So this is patterns Heaven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know you're hanging out anyway. But there's the
Speaker 1: cool breeze for you. You know what I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a screening rooms for pattern. That's exactly right. We did
Speaker 1: a whole a podcast episode of it that Yeah, I'm yeah.
Speaker 1: He called me like the wood nymph and he's a
Speaker 1: swamp troll, like he's I'm outside all the time and
Speaker 1: he's inside all the time. I'm like sunshine, he's like darkness.
Speaker 1: Like these are our personalities. This is why it works
Speaker 1: right having this. Okay, So in this heaven, they're obsessed
Speaker 1: with films and they want to know about your life.
Speaker 1: But three films. And the first thing they ask you is,
Speaker 1: what is the first film you remember seeing? Nati gad Well,
Speaker 1: I know the first film I remember seeing in a theater.
Speaker 1: I remember. I don't know if it was the first
Speaker 1: film I ever saw, but I just remember seeing Star
Speaker 1: Wars in the theater in Westwood in Los Angeles, and
Speaker 1: I was with my dad and I'd never in my
Speaker 1: life seen a line at a movie theater. I'd never
Speaker 1: seen a line before, Like it went around the block.
Speaker 1: It was crazy that I specifically remember just being looking
Speaker 1: at the line. How old were you? Oh, I must
Speaker 1: have been seven? Wow? Eight? Maybe seven or eight, and
Speaker 1: did you love it? It was just you and your dad?
Speaker 1: I think so. I think my sister might have been
Speaker 1: there too, but I might block she might have been
Speaker 1: there too. I wanted to ask you. You you you
Speaker 1: were essentially also a child actor, right, How old were
Speaker 1: you when you did Natty Agan? Well, when I did Nattigan,
Speaker 1: I was fourteen. But the first movie I was ever
Speaker 1: in was the movie Annie when I was ten, and
Speaker 1: that was directed by John Houston. And yeah, wait one second,
Speaker 1: do you not know that? Am I talking to someone
Speaker 1: from fucking Annie? Dude, I don't get decided. I'm just
Speaker 1: one of the order. I mean, I sided is fucking
Speaker 1: I fucking love Annie. If I'd know you were in
Speaker 1: Annie's berately trying to find I probably would just be
Speaker 1: a mumbling mess. It's good I didn't know you were
Speaker 1: in Annie. I didn't realize I was talking to someone
Speaker 1: from fucking Annie. Annie. Yeah, when I was a little girl,
Speaker 1: I wanted to be an actress when I was little. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm one of the girls I went to school.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the picture of me in Annie so
Speaker 1: I can show you what line did you sing in?
Speaker 1: Dumb Dug? My best friend Mandy Mandy Young who was
Speaker 1: in camp by Me Love, I mean not Mandy Young.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Amanda Peterson, she was in camp by Me Love,
Speaker 1: and she goes, dumb dog, why are you following me? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: she said, Rover, why not thinking of That's what that
Speaker 1: was her line? Right, I didn't sing in that song.
Speaker 1: I was mainly in the hard knock life. And and
Speaker 1: you're never fully dressed without a smile. But that's a
Speaker 1: different story. God, I really need to find this for you.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Okay, first of all, that was me
Speaker 1: and get the fuck out of here, and then here
Speaker 1: this is me. I cannot believe you're in Annie, and
Speaker 1: I didn't like that is I'm looking at a picture
Speaker 1: of you and Annie herself Aileen Quinn. Yeah, Nazi gay
Speaker 1: Annie hanging out? Whoa whoad? I actually auditioned for Annie,
Speaker 1: I mean not Annie. I went to the audition for
Speaker 1: Annie for the for the An Orphan and it was
Speaker 1: a huge audition with like two hundred and fifty girls
Speaker 1: or something like that. And they taught you a choreographed dance,
Speaker 1: and the choreographer at the end of the whole thing
Speaker 1: was like you, you, you and you and picked my sister, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, is the most shy, doesn't like to
Speaker 1: be the center of attention. She's just behind the scenes
Speaker 1: kind of a person. Don't sing Happy Birthday to her.
Speaker 1: But she was a ballerina and an amazing dancer. And
Speaker 1: I took her with me because it would be fun.
Speaker 1: And she got it and I didn't, And so I
Speaker 1: went to set. They took three months to film on
Speaker 1: the Columbia lot. John Houston is the director, and I
Speaker 1: would go to set over the summer and I'd like
Speaker 1: sit in the corner just watching all the girls, just
Speaker 1: being devastated. And then the day they were for a
Speaker 1: few that week they were filming, John Houston walked by
Speaker 1: this is true and he saw me sitting there like
Speaker 1: that and he goes, you, we need another orphan, come on,
Speaker 1: and then they're like put and then they put me
Speaker 1: in dirt and put dirt all over my face. And
Speaker 1: that's my favorite kind of role, Like the Journey of Nattigan.
Speaker 1: I'm dirty. I like to be gritty and dirty like
Speaker 1: those are the roles that fill me with joy. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so the first movie I did was oh So. Then
Speaker 1: they put me in the movie and then they had
Speaker 1: to redo the not Heart Knock Life You're never fully
Speaker 1: dressed without a smile with the seven main orphans. But
Speaker 1: one of those orphans this cute little girl. Her name
Speaker 1: was Lucy. She lived in England. So they asked me
Speaker 1: to do that number and we did the whole thing.
Speaker 1: You had to rehearse for like a month, and then
Speaker 1: they brought her to film it. But they brought me
Speaker 1: in as one of the so I'm in the movie
Speaker 1: as the other orphan. But I also did that too.
Speaker 1: Can we just cancel the rest of the questions? They
Speaker 1: just talk about Annie and Bernard at Peters and Albert
Speaker 1: Finney and Tim Curry and Carol Burnett. Carol Burnett, what
Speaker 1: was John Houston like? Was he scary? No, He's such
Speaker 1: a cute man with a cute beard and like just
Speaker 1: a nice man. And yeah, I mean he was so
Speaker 1: sweet to me. I genuinely don't understand if I'm man,
Speaker 1: I hope this doesn't upset you. I need to say
Speaker 1: I've read upon Annie and it doesn't. It has like
Speaker 1: mixed reviews, mixed reviews doesn't and it blows my mind
Speaker 1: because I'm like, it's a masterpiece. What's wrong with Annie?
Speaker 1: But yeah, that part, like the beginning with the orphans
Speaker 1: is great, and then being at Duddy Warbucks and learning
Speaker 1: on getting all those great things. But then at the
Speaker 1: end when it's like she just to climb up that
Speaker 1: thing and the helicopter and the punjab guy and I
Speaker 1: don't that is a little weird. But the rest of
Speaker 1: it is super Annie. It's like that part felt like
Speaker 1: is this part of it? Is this part of it?
Speaker 1: I don't remember this part. I kind of you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Anyway, great, I got no beef with Annie,
Speaker 1: and she's the cutest thing on the planet with her
Speaker 1: little you know that scene where the boys are going
Speaker 1: to be mean to the dog and she's like protecting
Speaker 1: the dog and she's like she's really good. Like that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a real magic story. What happened to your sister
Speaker 1: in it? Like she was your sister happy? You got
Speaker 1: a part? Was she like you? She was in it too,
Speaker 1: But you see her, I mean, you see us both
Speaker 1: like this, but you see me a little longer of
Speaker 1: a snap. You see me in a few spots and
Speaker 1: then you just see her running up the stairs. And
Speaker 1: did your sister ever acts again? No? No? She then
Speaker 1: became a publicist, so she yeah, she's the behind the
Speaker 1: scenes kind of chick. How did you do be a
Speaker 1: child actor and then not grow up to be an
Speaker 1: insane monster? Because I have incredible parents who care about
Speaker 1: family and care about education, and we're like, no matter
Speaker 1: what you do, you're going to college. And my dad's
Speaker 1: a dentist. And when I first wanted to be an actress,
Speaker 1: my mom said something like, I want you to follow
Speaker 1: your dreams. I want you to be an actress, but
Speaker 1: you have to stay nice, get good grades. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: she's I don't remember the third thing, but it was
Speaker 1: the three things she said. It was like, you have
Speaker 1: to you have to promise that you get you still
Speaker 1: have to get good grades, and you have to stay
Speaker 1: nice and don't ever be a show off and all
Speaker 1: that kind of pretty good stuff. And so I and
Speaker 1: I went to college. And also, you know, well, part
Speaker 1: of the going to college thing, I suppose was like
Speaker 1: the thing that kept you out of doing drugs and
Speaker 1: things like. I mean, I can't tell you how many
Speaker 1: of my dear friends died that I've worked with, Like,
Speaker 1: for example, my sweet friend Mandy Peterson, who was in
Speaker 1: Annie with me, she died she you know, I think
Speaker 1: drugs had a lot of things. My friend River Phoenix,
Speaker 1: I did the movie The Journey of the Journey Excuse Me,
Speaker 1: A Night in the Life of Jimmy Reardon with him
Speaker 1: and Corey Haim died. I know it's complications from but
Speaker 1: so many of the people I worked with all young
Speaker 1: and gone. And I think it's hard when you're little
Speaker 1: and you have a lot of success and you're a
Speaker 1: cute little kid, and then well, not in these cases.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, but a lot of times
Speaker 1: little kids are adorable and cute, and then they grew
Speaker 1: up and they're not so adorable and cute, and then
Speaker 1: they're not treated the same way they were. And it's
Speaker 1: how do you measure up to the success you had
Speaker 1: when you were young? And if you don't, how do
Speaker 1: you then feel like less than most people? Most actors,
Speaker 1: most people start their careers at like the first step,
Speaker 1: which is, oh, I'm going to work in the mail room,
Speaker 1: that I'm going to become an agent and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna go to med school and then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be an intern and then I'll be a doctor.
Speaker 1: But when you're a child actor and you're a star,
Speaker 1: you star in whatever it is. You're starting at the top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where any actor wants to be, starring in their
Speaker 1: own movie. And if you're little and you don't continue
Speaker 1: to have that, that's hard to deal with. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I guess I just have good parents because they're you know, well,
Speaker 1: you must do, you must do. I mean, I'm serious,
Speaker 1: that's really it's interesting. And they also didn't have to
Speaker 1: live off me, you know. I think that's a lot
Speaker 1: of another thing too, when kids get money and then
Speaker 1: their parents, like, you know, I think people like Britney
Speaker 1: Spears and you know, employing her family is not a
Speaker 1: healthy situation and doesn't make you feel I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's millions of factors, but I got lucky. What is
Speaker 1: the film that scared you the most? Do you like
Speaker 1: being scared? I don't. I don't like being scared, even
Speaker 1: like if as a joke, like you're walking into the
Speaker 1: room and someone like opens an room with boot My
Speaker 1: initial my initial reaction is like and then I'll break
Speaker 1: down and cry, like I can't. I don't like to
Speaker 1: be scared. Okay. I remember seeing Texas Chainsaw massacre the
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three movie When I was in eighth grade.
Speaker 1: There was a sleepover. I feel like I was in
Speaker 1: eighth grade. Wait, I'm sorry eighth grade. Yeah, Like what
Speaker 1: age is eighth grade? Fourteen? Oh okay, I think Alice
Speaker 1: is twelve and she's in six thirteen four yeah, fourteen okay.
Speaker 1: So a friend of mine had a sleepover a bunch
Speaker 1: of girls. She had a poolhouse and they were showing
Speaker 1: the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and everyone had been swimming and
Speaker 1: they're like wrapped in towels and they're all in there
Speaker 1: watching the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And I was in there
Speaker 1: and just as soon as I saw the hitchhiker, like
Speaker 1: just how creepy he looked, and they picked him up,
Speaker 1: I was like I'm out and I left. But it
Speaker 1: was nighttime. We're watching this at night. It's a big
Speaker 1: sleepover with like twenty girls and they're all watching the movie.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I can't handle this. So
Speaker 1: I went outside, like by the pool. But then it
Speaker 1: was like dark outside by the pool and by myself,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, oh shit, I'm even more scared outside.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I didn't watch. I'd like peak, but I
Speaker 1: was like I often close my ears during scary parts
Speaker 1: of things. I think that's the mute it. It makes
Speaker 1: it less scary. Yeah, it's all in the sound. And
Speaker 1: that's a horrible film. You your instincts were right. What
Speaker 1: is the film that made you cry the most? Now,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming there's a long list. There's an incredibly long list,
Speaker 1: and I know you want to say the most. I
Speaker 1: have to tell you them all. I mean, how long, Well,
Speaker 1: it's not that long. Like Dumbo when the mom was
Speaker 1: separated from her baby and they intertwined that you know
Speaker 1: that number one? Yeah, and then like and then the
Speaker 1: Champ when little Ricky Schroeder was saying goodbye to John Voight.
Speaker 1: Interesting those two now, but back then it was so good.
Speaker 1: Then it was like. Also, my parents had gotten divorced
Speaker 1: when I was around five, and around the time Cramer
Speaker 1: Versus Kramer came out was when I think there was
Speaker 1: like some custody weird thing and my dad took me
Speaker 1: to see Kramer Versus Kramer and it was pretty heavy
Speaker 1: and I was just good. I have three more. In
Speaker 1: Gilbert Grape, when Leonardo doesn't understand that his mom died
Speaker 1: and he's sitting there like, wake up Mom, that's really
Speaker 1: heavy for me. Boys in the Hood when the cops
Speaker 1: pull over Cuba Good in Junior and then he has
Speaker 1: to go back and tell his girlfriend what happens, and
Speaker 1: he just bursts up crying. In a Star Oh two
Speaker 1: More Sorry, and a Star is Born, when Barbara streisand
Speaker 1: sings at the very and watch close, Lena, it's a medley.
Speaker 1: It starts out anyway, it's the end of A Star
Speaker 1: is Born when she's singing, and it goes into watch
Speaker 1: closely now and then in terms of endearment. That's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite films. Everyone thinks it's the obvious scene
Speaker 1: in the hospital where she's like, my daughter needs medicine,
Speaker 1: but mine was. And this is why I think I'm
Speaker 1: going to die of a broken heart because there Ryan
Speaker 1: McClean is a grandma and her grandkids are there because
Speaker 1: their mom died. Just seeing them, like just seeing her watch,
Speaker 1: Oh my, I can't even Brett. It kills me. You
Speaker 1: know what scene I'm talking about, I know what took it.
Speaker 1: When they're just outside after the funeral and the kids
Speaker 1: are just playing, Yeah, it's um, did you time? It's
Speaker 1: are all killers? They are all killers. Scenes here about
Speaker 1: mothers yeah, oh boy. Yeah, the Boys in the Hood one.
Speaker 1: I think it was the only one that was sort
Speaker 1: of away from kids losing their parents. Yeah, but that
Speaker 1: scene and Boys in the Hood really did kill me, Like, ah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you are going to die with breaking Heart
Speaker 1: and you might take it. So I might have just died.
Speaker 1: I might have already. It might be in heaven right now.
Speaker 1: You are. What's the film? What's the film that people
Speaker 1: don't really like? But you love it unconditionally. You don't
Speaker 1: care what anyone says. I have heard that people don't
Speaker 1: like this film or think it's weird. But Popeye by
Speaker 1: Robert Robert Altman, that's a great answer. Everyone thinks that's weird.
Speaker 1: That's a really good answer. It was very badly reviewed
Speaker 1: and people think it's weird. Yes, um, but I love
Speaker 1: that movie. I loved that movie. I thought Robin Williams
Speaker 1: was amazing. And when Shelley val sings he needs me,
Speaker 1: he needs me, he needs me, and they use that
Speaker 1: song and punch drunk love by the way, but it
Speaker 1: kills me. I love that movie and I love I
Speaker 1: just it was so the art direction and the the
Speaker 1: sets and Robin Williams and it's I love that movie,
Speaker 1: but people don't like that movie. People don't like that movie.
Speaker 1: They think it's weird, and you're right, it's a that's
Speaker 1: a really good choice. I think people just can't handle
Speaker 1: like it doesn't sort of fit a template. It's not
Speaker 1: like the films. It's a very odd film. It's really odd.
Speaker 1: It's very artsy, but like cartoony and a little dark,
Speaker 1: like kind of really dark. Yeah, but like kills me,
Speaker 1: kills me, kills me really good. What's a film that
Speaker 1: you used to love? He loved it and then you
Speaker 1: botched it recently and you've gone out. No, I don't
Speaker 1: like this anymore. For whatever reason. I feel like I
Speaker 1: haven't seen this in a while. I used to watch
Speaker 1: the movie Weird Science all the time with Anthony Michael
Speaker 1: Holland Alan Mitchell Smith and Bill Paxton and um, I
Speaker 1: loved it and Kelly LeBrock and I obviously it's an
Speaker 1: incredibly misogynistic movie, but it's supposed to be. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was that era, So I don't think it holds
Speaker 1: up necessarily like politically correct wise. And I haven't seen
Speaker 1: it in a million years, and I'm assuming I would
Speaker 1: still love it. The way. I loved it back then,
Speaker 1: but it could be problematic, but I did love it,
Speaker 1: and I don't know would I still love it. It's
Speaker 1: a really good show. I loved that film, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's wildly problematic, but yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, even the concept has issues. Well that's the
Speaker 1: whole Yeah, that's the whole misogyny of the whole thing.
Speaker 1: But I used to want to look like her, and
Speaker 1: I used to want to wear the out fit that
Speaker 1: she was wearing when she's in the doorway, and the
Speaker 1: little cutoff and the little blue underwear, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to look like that. Yeah, that images takes
Speaker 1: up a little room in my brain. Still, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think everybody's brain. Yeah, what a wonderful what a wonderful woman.
Speaker 1: She's Well, what, you're so lovely, so nice? What is
Speaker 1: the What is the film that means the most to you?
Speaker 1: The film itself might not be that special or good,
Speaker 1: but the experience you had around seeing the film is
Speaker 1: what makes it so special. Well, I have two movies.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry it's got to be more than one. But
Speaker 1: Smoking in the bandit with Burt Reynolds and Sally Field,
Speaker 1: it's the reason I became an actress I wanted to be.
Speaker 1: I felt like I wanted to be an actress in
Speaker 1: me as a child. But when I saw her in it,
Speaker 1: I just saw myself and her. I loved it all.
Speaker 1: I watched that movie a billion times. That's sort of like,
Speaker 1: that's what I want to do. When I saw Smoking
Speaker 1: the Bandit, I was like, that's that's my job, right there,
Speaker 1: Sally Field in frog in Smoking the Bandit. You've seen
Speaker 1: it a million bands, I'm sure probably. And then when
Speaker 1: I was around ten, the movie Fame, I already was
Speaker 1: an actress. I already I think I had already gotten
Speaker 1: Annie by that point when that came out, I think,
Speaker 1: but then it's such a gritty, scary, dark kind of
Speaker 1: movie with all these deep feels and um it's very
Speaker 1: dark Fame. I could see myself in all of them,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, Smoking the Bandit, like that's
Speaker 1: cute and adorable, and that's the kind of actress I
Speaker 1: want to be, But I also want to do that
Speaker 1: really dark, dark, gritty like back I don't know, it
Speaker 1: felt really dangerous. It was a it felt dangerous that
Speaker 1: movie to me, like I think it does it was
Speaker 1: so open to get holds up. It does feel danger
Speaker 1: very it's it's a bit like Saturday Night Fever, and
Speaker 1: I think the idea of it, that's a fun film,
Speaker 1: and then you watch it and go, fucking know, this
Speaker 1: is duck. Yeah, and he actually Saturday Night Fever had
Speaker 1: an actor named Barry Miller in it. He's the one
Speaker 1: who jumped off the bridge. And in Fame he was
Speaker 1: the actor, the comedian guy he put tap bottle caps
Speaker 1: on the bottom of his tennis shoes. Yea. And in
Speaker 1: the movie I Did The Journey of Natigan, he's the dearest.
Speaker 1: He was in the movie That Chosen He's such a
Speaker 1: great actor, Barry Miller, and he was in Natigan. He
Speaker 1: was the head of the gang. When I go into
Speaker 1: town with my wolf and they like take me under
Speaker 1: their wing. Um, it's the only time like I'm with
Speaker 1: a group of bad kids. You really did, you did?
Speaker 1: You've achieved both sides. Natigan is up there with like
Speaker 1: one of my personal favorite Disney films is Hunchback of
Speaker 1: nuts Dame, which is unbelievably duck the animated, the animated.
Speaker 1: Really I never saw the whole thing. Oh, you of
Speaker 1: course see it. It's incredible. It's incredible, and it's incredible.
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure I've talked about it on this podcast before.
Speaker 1: There's a sequence in the hun that I do not
Speaker 1: know how you explain it to a kid, because the
Speaker 1: sequence is about a man talking about going to hell
Speaker 1: because of his sexual obsession. That is what the sequence is,
Speaker 1: and there's no metaphor. I don't know how you. I
Speaker 1: just don't know what you'll tell it. If a kid goes,
Speaker 1: what was that about, You're like, I mean, the guy
Speaker 1: thinks he's going to go to hell because he's desperate
Speaker 1: to have sex with someone. And this is like an
Speaker 1: animated Disney film, it's really really good. Was that the hunchback?
Speaker 1: Who've had those feelings? No, it's Judge, it's the troublesome guy.
Speaker 1: I'll watch it. But Nazygan is also not It's not
Speaker 1: in that way, but it's it's kind of gritty and
Speaker 1: it's dark and there's real, yeah danger in They didn't
Speaker 1: think it wasn't like a typical Disney film. It was definitely.
Speaker 1: It was dark, it was shot dark. It is the
Speaker 1: heroine of it isn't like a cute, pretty princess. Patton
Speaker 1: always says, she's the Tom Waits of Disney princesses. She's
Speaker 1: like the gritty one, like smoking in the alley, fishing
Speaker 1: out of trash cans and eating salami. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that is exactly the kind of role that I still
Speaker 1: love and want and always prefer doing to this day.
Speaker 1: I've had roles that are dark and gritty, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just I just They're like my soul, those parts.
Speaker 1: That's great. What is the film that you most relate
Speaker 1: to Nat again? Okay, well, we've already talked about Smoking
Speaker 1: the Bandit. Yeah, her role in that, and then um
Speaker 1: Tatum O'Neil's roll in Paper Moon, and Debra Winger in
Speaker 1: Urban Cowboy, and Sally Field and Norma Ray and snow
Speaker 1: White and Mary Poppins. They're all parts of me, Like
Speaker 1: Norma Ray, like that fighting spirit that like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make it better, I'm going to stand up for everyone.
Speaker 1: I'm going to just be that girl, and that's me
Speaker 1: an Urban Cowboy just Paper Moon feels very much like
Speaker 1: Nattigan and Annie and snow White. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm very much a caretaker of other people, and also
Speaker 1: like snow White and Mary Poppins is just my personality
Speaker 1: with kids. I'm like, literally, Mary Poppins, I'm anti mare extraordinaire.
Speaker 1: That's a really good uh pie pie chat? Is it?
Speaker 1: It is? It's sort of like, yeah, that's a great answer.
Speaker 1: What is objectively the greatest film of all time? If
Speaker 1: you're ever asked, I always would say The Black Stallion
Speaker 1: with Mickey Rooney. I think it's objectively beautiful, the cinematography,
Speaker 1: the story, it's so simple, it's so I just love it.
Speaker 1: And and that's been one of my favorite movies for
Speaker 1: so so long. And and then I saw Jojo Rabbit
Speaker 1: that Taiko Ytt directed, and I really think that that
Speaker 1: also is one of the greatest movies of all time.
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful, it's so well done. It tackles such
Speaker 1: a hard subject in such a unique way. It's it's
Speaker 1: magical and romantic and historic, and it's just so beautiful.
Speaker 1: I love it. And the imagery with the shoes with
Speaker 1: Scarlet or Hanson after you know, when she's tap dancing,
Speaker 1: you see her shoes, and then later she's hanging and
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, I love that movie so much. I
Speaker 1: think it's objectively a masterpiece. I loved you saying that
Speaker 1: I really really really really really like that film. That
Speaker 1: is a very good answer that has not been put
Speaker 1: in this category, and I thank you for doing so.
Speaker 1: Very challenger, Nat again, what is the sexiest film You've
Speaker 1: ever seen? If? I, well, the most romantic film I've
Speaker 1: ever seen was a Little Romance with Diane Lane. That
Speaker 1: was not the question, and John Gilgat that was not
Speaker 1: the question. I know. The sexiest I would say was
Speaker 1: probably nine and a half weeks, I think solid, Sir.
Speaker 1: I was eighteen when it came out, and just remembering
Speaker 1: like sexy things like officially like pointed towards sex was
Speaker 1: that movie and the food thing was so sensual, and
Speaker 1: the and the power. I mean, it's totally horribly inappropriate.
Speaker 1: It's the worst misogynistic, most hideous film of all time, truly,
Speaker 1: but there was something so sexy about just the dominating
Speaker 1: power thing that he had over her and she was
Speaker 1: so oh my god. It was a very sexy movie.
Speaker 1: What was the romantic most romantic one? Oh, a little
Speaker 1: Romance with Diane Lane and Lawrence Olivier. Not I said
Speaker 1: John Gielgu, but it was Lawrence Olivier. Lovely. I love
Speaker 1: that movie. It's so beautiful. The little Oh, I was
Speaker 1: like that little romance between those that's why it's called
Speaker 1: a little romance. But that you've seen that, right. I
Speaker 1: love Diane Lane. I'm a huge Diane Lae fan. I'm
Speaker 1: a huge Dion Line fan. I love her. She So
Speaker 1: did you see? Um? Was it unforgivable? What was the unfaithful? Oh? Unfaithful? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've seen it. Yeah, that's also pretty fair freaking sexy
Speaker 1: Jesus really say, Okay, I'll add that to my sexiest
Speaker 1: same directories. Nine enough weeks? Maybe no, really think it is?
Speaker 1: I think right? Yeah, I don't. Is it really? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's interesting? Yeah it was nine? Oh my god, Well
Speaker 1: there there. I certainly have a kind of thing I like.
Speaker 1: I guess you like Adrian nine, I guess. So what
Speaker 1: is there's a subcategory to this question. I'm afraid. Are
Speaker 1: you just gonna have to? Yeah, I know what you're
Speaker 1: gonna ask. Oh, I think Traveling Bone is worrying? Why
Speaker 1: I done? What is the film you found arousing that
Speaker 1: you weren't sure you should? Well I knew this was
Speaker 1: one of the questions, and I did think about it,
Speaker 1: and nothing really popped into my mind at all other
Speaker 1: than Jessica Rabbit from Roger Rabbit and just wanting to
Speaker 1: look like her, wanting to be like her, and oh
Speaker 1: my god, I just had an epiphany. She is with
Speaker 1: a short, little comedian rabbit. He's my little Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's my Rother Rabbit. That's really funny. Yes, I found
Speaker 1: that very well arousing. I don't know, I would just
Speaker 1: say sexy, nothing is? I mean, yeah, okay, unfaithful all
Speaker 1: of those, I don't know. They kind of go together,
Speaker 1: don't they, Jessica Rabbit and Unfaithful. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a boy thing. I think that question is more
Speaker 1: of a boy thing because nothing is. Because I think, well,
Speaker 1: maybe it has more to do with whether you feel
Speaker 1: like in a good way. Maybe you can't think of
Speaker 1: an answer because you don't think there's anything wrong with anything.
Speaker 1: I don't really you're like, yeah, I was aroused. I
Speaker 1: didn't see that as a problem, right, I guess. So
Speaker 1: I don't know. What is the film? Get No, I'm
Speaker 1: embarrassed by this whole section, and yet we persist with it.
Speaker 1: What is the film that you could or have watched
Speaker 1: the most over and over again? Midnight run a great show.
Speaker 1: I think I've seen Midnight Run thirty times. I'm obsessed
Speaker 1: with Charles Groden and Robert de Niro in it. I'm
Speaker 1: obsessed with both of them in that era. Anyway, Every
Speaker 1: Charles Groden movie from that era seems like old times,
Speaker 1: all of his everything, Robert de Niro, I mean literally everything.
Speaker 1: But Midnight Run is the best. I could watch that
Speaker 1: movie constantly. It's the most it's the best humor, it's
Speaker 1: so well written, it's so I just love that movie,
Speaker 1: love it, love it, have watched it a billion times.
Speaker 1: Perfect and of course Smoking the Bandit and the Muppet Movie. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: What is the film that we don't like? To be negative?
Speaker 1: You and me, Meredith, that's one thing we have in COVID.
Speaker 1: But what's the worst film you've ever seen? I remember
Speaker 1: taking my friend's daughter to see Cars Too, and I
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever walked out of a movie before,
Speaker 1: but I was like, this is atrocious. It's atrocious. There
Speaker 1: was nothing redeeming about it, not one thing awful walked out.
Speaker 1: I hate walking out of movies. I think that is
Speaker 1: not a good name today. To take the kids with you,
Speaker 1: were they like, we're having fun. I kept saying it
Speaker 1: a little. I kept saying to this little girl, I
Speaker 1: was like, this is terrible, right, none of us are
Speaker 1: enjoying this, right, I'm like, do you like this? Do
Speaker 1: you like this? And she's like, get out of here,
Speaker 1: let's go get ice cream. That's nice, I mean terrible.
Speaker 1: But you know what's the film? Yeah, that made you
Speaker 1: laugh the most? Well, I would say, Caddie Shack. I
Speaker 1: think I don't usually laugh out loud. Usually I usually
Speaker 1: am like, huh, that's clever. I mean, I think I
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't remember what if I've laughed, laugh, laugh, laugh,
Speaker 1: but I find it funny. But the one time I
Speaker 1: actually did laugh was and this is definitely not what
Speaker 1: you're looking for. But I remember years ago I went
Speaker 1: to see the movie Boys on the Side with one
Speaker 1: of my best friends. It's it's Drew Barrymore movie and
Speaker 1: somebody's dying of AIDS and it was so and I
Speaker 1: saw in a packed theater and I was sort of
Speaker 1: like close to the front row with my best friend
Speaker 1: and we were watching it and it was so quiet.
Speaker 1: There's like a scene that's just so sad, and everyone
Speaker 1: was just silent, and I was crying so hard. I
Speaker 1: was like, like, people could hear me? And then she
Speaker 1: was crying so loud, and I looked at her and
Speaker 1: we were like and then we burst out laughing because
Speaker 1: we were so loud that people were like, sh And
Speaker 1: then we started laughing because we were being loud, and
Speaker 1: then I couldn't stop laughing because I couldn't stop crying.
Speaker 1: And that's yeah, that's actually actually I really like that.
Speaker 1: Meredith Salinger. Yeah, you've been absolutely wonderful, as expected to
Speaker 1: be honest. I came into this thinking she'll be wonderful,
Speaker 1: and you were wonderful. However, when you were ninety eight
Speaker 1: years old, you were two years away from that letter
Speaker 1: from Obama, and I had got a birthday card from
Speaker 1: the Queen lined up, not that you were interested, but
Speaker 1: one was on its way two years ago. Coming anyway,
Speaker 1: you saw something very very beautiful and it was love,
Speaker 1: and it was love between you and pattern. A very
Speaker 1: lovely thing happened. It was so beautiful that you lay
Speaker 1: in bed and you went to sleep, and you went
Speaker 1: Your harps exploded like that, and your marrionet strings dropped,
Speaker 1: and you ascended to heaven, where there was a cool
Speaker 1: breeze on a hot day and you were lying in
Speaker 1: a field. I'm walking about with a coffin, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm like, And I'm like, I wonder what your coffin.
Speaker 1: I wonder what Meredith's up to. I'll just pop in,
Speaker 1: see you're dead in the bed and find sad. There's
Speaker 1: really bad thing is no one had noticed and had
Speaker 1: been eaten by both the very wolves that you had
Speaker 1: acted with in nat again had come back to because
Speaker 1: they were gonna, you know, your family, they were going
Speaker 1: to return you to exactly and I would like, get
Speaker 1: off here, and there was like bits of meat everywhere,
Speaker 1: and it was a fucking state anyway, A clear up
Speaker 1: as best I can. I put all your bits in
Speaker 1: this coffin. But because of all the wolf stuff and
Speaker 1: the bits of the ground, they've been chewing in the
Speaker 1: beds and it's a mess. There's so much more than
Speaker 1: I was expecting. And I've stuffed you in the coffin.
Speaker 1: It's full. There's really only enough room to slide one
Speaker 1: DVD in the side for you to take across to
Speaker 1: the other side. And on the other side it's movie night.
Speaker 1: Every night. One night, it's your movie night. What film
Speaker 1: are you taking to show everyone in Heaven when it
Speaker 1: is your movie night? Meredith Salinger got the journey of Natigan.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you thought I might say that. I did
Speaker 1: not think you. No, not just because it is a
Speaker 1: beautiful film, but it shaped my life in such a
Speaker 1: profound way. And I just feel so close to that character,
Speaker 1: and I feel being strong and brave and fierce and
Speaker 1: full of love and determined. It's sort of like the
Speaker 1: thing that defines me as who I am anyway, but
Speaker 1: it's also me. It's me, and it's me, and it's
Speaker 1: just it just feels like me. And then it would
Speaker 1: be a really great reminder of how the wolves ate
Speaker 1: me to have the reason why it was wolves that
Speaker 1: ate me. It's like, oh, because of that, Because Natigan,
Speaker 1: she was a wolf girl, and if anyone's going to
Speaker 1: bring her home, it's going to be the wolves. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just such a huge part of me, that film,
Speaker 1: and it's shaped my life in such a huge way.
Speaker 1: And so that's what I would You've been wonderful, is it?
Speaker 1: Is there anything you would like to tell people to
Speaker 1: watch your lookout for or listen to your podcast? For example? Oh,
Speaker 1: I guess I should tell them to watch that, or
Speaker 1: I mean, not watch it, listen to it. We don't
Speaker 1: have video. We don't have this Patreon cool stuff, Brett. Yeah,
Speaker 1: listen to a podcast by my husband Patton Oswald and
Speaker 1: myself called did you get My Text? It's pretty funny
Speaker 1: and um what else? Everything I'm doing is all you know,
Speaker 1: very very much behind the scenes at the moment, but
Speaker 1: also acting. I just did a movie with ried to Moreno,
Speaker 1: which should be coming out soon, called The Prank. She's
Speaker 1: super cool. She's also nine. She's gonna be ninety eight
Speaker 1: or ninety. She's gonna be ninety. It's gonna be She's
Speaker 1: so brilliant. She's an egot. She's the first egot. Anyway.
Speaker 1: That was a cool movie. But yeah, do whatever you want,
Speaker 1: whatever you like, and I will cut this if you're uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I've never done this with any guest. For the record, Oh,
Speaker 1: I have a friend. He's called Henry Whittaker. He is
Speaker 1: a comedian and a producer and he produces the best
Speaker 1: comedy festive in the entire world. And he loves you
Speaker 1: very much. I was wondering if we could finish with
Speaker 1: you saying his name and saying that you are thinking
Speaker 1: of him always, and perhaps he could make that his
Speaker 1: ringtone to wake him up every day and it will
Speaker 1: blow his vone. If you are comfortable doing that, I
Speaker 1: know it would make him very happy. I'm absolutely comfortable
Speaker 1: doing it. What is his name? His name is Henry Whitcomb,
Speaker 1: Henry Whittam. Oh, look I just said his name. H No,
Speaker 1: So that if we could finish with a little for
Speaker 1: your biggest fan, Henry Whittam, I am thinking of you,
Speaker 1: Henry Whittacomb always. Do you think you'll like that? That
Speaker 1: gave me shivers? That was magnificent. If I had the
Speaker 1: microphone up a bit and then headphones on, I could
Speaker 1: have said it a bit better. I do the amso
Speaker 1: thinking of you, Henry Whittcomb Always would have sounded better
Speaker 1: with an English accent. I think really really good, most
Speaker 1: things do. I'm glad that we got to do this.
Speaker 1: Thank you for your time, and I hope do you
Speaker 1: have a wonderful death. Good night, good night, Brett. So
Speaker 1: that was episode one hundred and sixty seven. Head over
Speaker 1: to patreon dot com forward slash Brett Goldstein for the
Speaker 1: extra twenty minutes of chat secrets and video with Meredith
Speaker 1: go to Apple Podcast give us a five star rating.
Speaker 1: But don't tell me about a podcast. I know what
Speaker 1: a podcast is. I do the podcast right about the
Speaker 1: film that means the most to you and why. It's
Speaker 1: a very nice thing to read. People like reading. It
Speaker 1: makes people cry or laugh, whatever you want, and it
Speaker 1: is very much appreciated. Thank you all for listening to
Speaker 1: the show. Thank you so much to Meredith for doing it.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Scrubious Pip and the Distraction Pieces Network. Thanks
Speaker 1: to Buddy Piece for producing it. Thanks Today Gus for
Speaker 1: hosting it. Thanks to Adam Richardson for the graphics. At
Speaker 1: least lie them for the photography. Come and join me
Speaker 1: next week, where I believe my guest will be the
Speaker 1: award winning comedian mister Phil Nickel. So that is it
Speaker 1: for now. In the meantime, have a wonderful week. Please,
Speaker 1: more than ever, be excellent to each other.