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Speaker 1: Here are Bill Jones, Savannah Humoller, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 4: It is a Monday morning here inside the SWBC podcast studio,
Speaker 4: and I thought I'd checked my headset, and that's there.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 4: We got early, it is and this, oh now, this
Speaker 4: is the way you start off, all right. This will
Speaker 4: get you a kickstarted for an NFL draft to week.
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Bill's the only one that can do a thirty minute
Speaker 3: sports special and twenty eight of it was the draft
Speaker 3: on a day that the Mavericks played.
Speaker 4: And the day before the Stars played and the Rangers played.
Speaker 4: In Scottie Scheffler, Well, he was en route to winning
Speaker 4: a tournament, which he did this morning. He got Yeah,
Speaker 4: he got off to the best start of this week
Speaker 4: as he didn't have to do much. He was two
Speaker 4: over par and won a golf tournament this morning at
Speaker 4: Hilton Head And so maybe that bodes well for Dallas
Speaker 4: this week Draft week.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's so that's a major stretch.
Speaker 3: I'll like with your bill. All I could think of
Speaker 3: with the Mavericks getting their ass beat in.
Speaker 5: Just the first January, it was like the cloud that
Speaker 5: hangs over the Cowboys with that lost to Green Bay
Speaker 5: still exists because I had to compare the Mavericks loss
Speaker 5: to what the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we haven't seen a game like this since
Speaker 3: oh January.
Speaker 1: Yes, they did.
Speaker 4: They They may not have, but I did.
Speaker 3: No. That was the popular opinion last night on sports
Speaker 3: and morning on the radio.
Speaker 4: It reminded me of that.
Speaker 3: Fortunately, they get six more games if they can.
Speaker 4: Right, that's the difference between the NFL. You're one and
Speaker 4: done in the NFL.
Speaker 3: If you play like that, score what eight points in
Speaker 3: the second quarter, that's what ye.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm the stars man now, so that's.
Speaker 4: Right to hear it.
Speaker 6: You guys went to the I didn't go to the well,
Speaker 6: it just happened the playoff game.
Speaker 2: But I'm looking the last game.
Speaker 3: You went to a fan appreciation Yeah, man, it was fun,
Speaker 3: was a good game.
Speaker 6: Stuck around for some T shirts. But you know, of
Speaker 6: course they didn't shoot anyto the black people.
Speaker 7: Because they knew you were exactly it was only a
Speaker 7: few of us stuck out and my baby brother.
Speaker 6: We were there. Had a good time though. They kicked
Speaker 6: but uh yeah, everything was cool. They started off kind
Speaker 6: of slow, many.
Speaker 8: They did, and then they picked it up, picked it up.
Speaker 9: The third period.
Speaker 2: We knew they would, We knew they would. It was,
Speaker 2: it was. It was really nice to see.
Speaker 6: And I wish I could go to a playoff game
Speaker 6: if someone had some tickets around.
Speaker 4: Does anyone does anyone work over there.
Speaker 7: And anybody have a connection.
Speaker 6: He doesn't have to take a guy. It could be
Speaker 6: a female. You just never know exactly.
Speaker 9: We never know. Maybe some playoff tickets will wind up
Speaker 9: in your account.
Speaker 6: That would be great, especially you want more diverse one
Speaker 6: more that audience.
Speaker 4: You know, it's what we're saying, a big Hamilton Park,
Speaker 4: crowded hockey crowd.
Speaker 6: I'll bring a Native American with me. I can bring
Speaker 6: all count of people with you.
Speaker 3: Well, now that I know that, if someone doesn't want
Speaker 3: to go with me Wednesday night, I'll think about you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, please do oh yeah, let me take it?
Speaker 4: Yeah please do?
Speaker 2: Please do?
Speaker 3: You know it's hard though, sometimes when you don't have
Speaker 3: like a lot of friends.
Speaker 2: You stop, it stops bags. This is not the moment
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like you're trying to I want to.
Speaker 3: It's gotta be somebody special to sit with you for
Speaker 3: three hours.
Speaker 2: That would be yeah, I can.
Speaker 7: You are going on the jumps intense, bro, that's gonna
Speaker 7: be real intense.
Speaker 3: I don't think the jumpbo trod shoots where I sit.
Speaker 4: All right, So, what a big week you have, Savannah.
Speaker 8: I have one of the busiest weeks I think so far.
Speaker 8: So Round one Stanley Cup playoffs start tonight against the
Speaker 8: Vegas Nights.
Speaker 9: This is the revenge series. That's what I'm calling.
Speaker 8: So very excited. Wednesday morning, fly to Detroit. So I
Speaker 8: will miss the Stars game here at home Wednesday night,
Speaker 8: but I will be in Detroit, US.
Speaker 2: I'll be looking at bags.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: He'll be way up there. I'll be down there, way
Speaker 2: up there.
Speaker 4: Okay, So what are you doing in Detroit?
Speaker 9: In Detroit?
Speaker 8: Many many things. We have a few events kicking off
Speaker 8: Wednesday afternoon. We have a Q and A with Commissioner
Speaker 8: Roger Goodell.
Speaker 9: Yes, will be very nice.
Speaker 8: And then Thursday we'll do some draft theater tours with
Speaker 8: some groups out there, and then we'll watch the red carpet.
Speaker 8: I have a couple of video guys coming with me
Speaker 8: from our team here and we'll go watch all the
Speaker 8: prospects that are going to be in Detroit walk the
Speaker 8: red carpet and then we will be there on the
Speaker 8: floor watching all the calls.
Speaker 9: All looks.
Speaker 2: What about the fashion correspondence? Right? You have to have
Speaker 2: one right because the guy is going to be coming
Speaker 2: out that dress to the knights.
Speaker 9: Oh, I'm like, I'm going to pull.
Speaker 2: Out that.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna say, Hi, who are you wearing today?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Exactly, Bill, you should have hired her to do you
Speaker 3: on the spot.
Speaker 4: I was thinking I was thinking about that driving in
Speaker 4: that we could do we do a FaceTime zoom whatever,
Speaker 4: We could do that and you are a reporter there.
Speaker 3: And she might get a chance to be a part
Speaker 3: of the interview for whoever the Cowboys take.
Speaker 8: If that is the case, I'm so excited. We'll see
Speaker 8: if you have a prospect there.
Speaker 2: So come with who this person is gonna be?
Speaker 4: You think the Cowboys are gonna pick it twenty four?
Speaker 3: No, I don't.
Speaker 4: You're gonna move up. No, not gonna move up, move down,
Speaker 4: No ammunition to move up.
Speaker 3: Move down?
Speaker 2: And the bullets out of bullets, that's right.
Speaker 3: You know what we ought to do of the course
Speaker 3: of this show is figure out if they should move
Speaker 3: down five guys at different positions that might be there
Speaker 3: and decide, Okay, which one of those five would you take?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: Since Bill has a seven round draft, I got.
Speaker 4: A seven round mock draft.
Speaker 3: And he knows what all the teams in front of
Speaker 3: the Cowboys are going to do, so they can get
Speaker 3: that guy right in the sixth round.
Speaker 6: That's right, in the sixth fare Bill could be somewhat.
Speaker 6: I have a nerdy out, yeah, and a little bit
Speaker 6: off the wall.
Speaker 2: I have to say that because you know you you
Speaker 2: don't come with the hours I spend.
Speaker 4: That's why I've got this big notebook.
Speaker 2: You come in here when you're at the end of everything,
Speaker 2: you know, like IM.
Speaker 4: Come up with crazy Ideaszy. You're looking at prospects at
Speaker 4: two o'clock in the morning, and they all have to do.
Speaker 6: With someone that played football in the state of Texas, especially.
Speaker 4: In the right That's why we're drafting Trey Taylor in
Speaker 4: the seventh round out of Risk Star High School, the
Speaker 4: safety from Air Force.
Speaker 2: There you go, no.
Speaker 3: One else will take him no.
Speaker 2: No, he is.
Speaker 4: He probably could go in the sixth round.
Speaker 8: As a matter of Okay, you know we talked about
Speaker 8: six Darius Robinson. Yeah, you're you're a Missouri guy. He's
Speaker 8: going to be one of the prospects. He is on
Speaker 8: site in Detroit.
Speaker 4: He's from Detroit.
Speaker 3: Well, since you brought that up. In case you guys
Speaker 3: did not hear what Stephen Jones had to say on
Speaker 3: Friday on one five to three the fans.
Speaker 4: Let's hear it.
Speaker 3: He was talking about the defense and he said, because
Speaker 3: I asked him what might change with Mike Zimmer coming
Speaker 3: in being the defensive coordinator, And he said, I think
Speaker 3: anytime you bring in a new coordinator, you're going to
Speaker 3: have changes, And certainly Mike brings an edge coaches in
Speaker 3: a different way than Dan. Dan was very successful in
Speaker 3: the way he did it, But I think Mike has
Speaker 3: been very successful in this league in the way he
Speaker 3: does it, and certainly philosophically, will have more of a
Speaker 3: three linebacker system rather than two linebackers in three safety
Speaker 3: system that Dan preferred. I think the other thing, I
Speaker 3: think will probably look to be bigger and stronger in
Speaker 3: the middle. I think obviously our Achilles heel the last
Speaker 3: two or three years has been stopping the run.
Speaker 4: How about that?
Speaker 2: Man, they figured it out. That's good.
Speaker 3: I wrote like a thousand words on it saying this
Speaker 3: is music to my ears because that's what we've been
Speaker 3: talking about linebackers and being able to stop the run.
Speaker 6: Well, would you say, for in dan Quinn's defense, that
Speaker 6: it's how he was working with what he had.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: Having said that, though, I do know that the the
Speaker 4: ones who are making the draft picks listen intently to
Speaker 4: the coaches. Two. And so the coaches do have input
Speaker 4: in Okay, this is what we need on the roster.
Speaker 4: I need X number of linebackers, I need X number
Speaker 4: of defensive linemen on the team.
Speaker 3: And so that's the coaches safety.
Speaker 4: The coaches are factor. They want to get players that
Speaker 4: fit whatever the coach's scheme is. And uh so, when
Speaker 4: Lton vander esh go down with an injury in October
Speaker 4: and marve On Overshown has already gone down with an
Speaker 4: injury in August, actually what needed to be set before
Speaker 4: the season even started was a depth at the linebacker
Speaker 4: position in case those injuries occur. And then when Overshown
Speaker 4: goes down about picking up somebody when cuts are made
Speaker 4: that you can fortify.
Speaker 3: The position more so than Rashaan Evans.
Speaker 4: And Rashaan Evans was a guy who was a Trialy
Speaker 4: agent who you know had wasn't in a camp with anybody,
Speaker 4: and then they brought in for briefly. And but anyway,
Speaker 4: the coaches have input on that. They're talking to them
Speaker 4: all the time. Right So if if Dan Quinn says
Speaker 4: I've got to get a linebacker, they're going to do
Speaker 4: everything they can to get him a linebacker.
Speaker 3: Well, and if you think about what took place the
Speaker 3: year before, it wasn't out of injuries, but they wanted
Speaker 3: to play jay Ron Curse as a big linebacker.
Speaker 4: And see this the point that you're making that Steven's
Speaker 4: making about Mike Zimmer, He's going into it with a plan. Okay,
Speaker 4: this is our base defense right here. This is the
Speaker 4: personnel that we need on this defense. We need to
Speaker 4: work from a base of three linebackers, not a base
Speaker 4: of two linebackers. And that changes your entire inventory on
Speaker 4: your roster.
Speaker 3: And think about it. So we still don't know what
Speaker 3: Mike Zimmer thinks Michael Parsons is because if he thinks, oh,
Speaker 3: he's going to play defensive end. Then if they have
Speaker 3: to play today, they don't have three linebackers, or.
Speaker 4: He may think that that in when you're in your
Speaker 4: four to three defense, additional four to three line Parsons
Speaker 4: is a linebacker, right, and then in the nickel he
Speaker 4: is a rush end.
Speaker 3: And then I need another linebacker just in case somebody
Speaker 3: gets hurt because they're counting on Demarvian overshown to be
Speaker 3: one of those top three or four linebackers, which, by
Speaker 3: the way, watching him work out with Brent doing his rehab,
Speaker 3: he's moving awfully well, so he should be ready for
Speaker 3: sure by the start of training camp.
Speaker 6: For some reason, I think I'm the only one that
Speaker 6: looks at him is undersized, Am I the only one somewhat?
Speaker 3: I mean, he's probably not two thirty now. He might
Speaker 3: be after spending a year working out and you know,
Speaker 3: doing weights. But as a weak side linebacker, I think
Speaker 3: you probably can get away with it, or a linebacker
Speaker 3: that's gonna play in the changeup defense right when you
Speaker 3: go to nickel and you want to more of a
Speaker 3: cover linebacker.
Speaker 6: I could see him as the middle linebacker for the
Speaker 6: third down or dime defense.
Speaker 8: I can see that, But isn't ca Aeric Kendricks primarily
Speaker 8: will fill that, right?
Speaker 2: And so if you got even on passing down, if you.
Speaker 3: Got Kendricks, if you got Dimoon Clark and Michael Parsons,
Speaker 3: there's your three right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But if it's the other way around, then here's another
Speaker 3: case of your relying on somebody coming back from an
Speaker 3: ACL to be your third linebacker.
Speaker 8: I think it's still going to take time for him
Speaker 8: to develop, right.
Speaker 3: So another linebacker is a need, and would you be
Speaker 3: mad at him if they took a linebacker. I don't know,
Speaker 3: Bill at twenty eight if there's a linebacker worth taking
Speaker 3: at that spot. If you trade down.
Speaker 4: Typically the off the ball linebackers are, you won't find
Speaker 4: them in the first round. I mean you won't need
Speaker 4: to draft them in the first round. He might have
Speaker 4: to draft him before you pick in the second round
Speaker 4: at fifty six, right. And so even though an off
Speaker 4: the ball linebacker may not get drafted in the first round,
Speaker 4: a couple of them could easily be off the board
Speaker 4: by the time you're see round pick rolls around. Isn't
Speaker 4: there no in that case? In a trade down scenario,
Speaker 4: you you can you.
Speaker 3: Know, there's a linebacker from Alabama again or am I
Speaker 3: think in ann.
Speaker 4: Those a and m Eddrian Cooper is an off the
Speaker 4: ball linebacker. Junior Colson's another one from Michigan, Michigan.
Speaker 3: That's the guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, and he is uh. And he's a
Speaker 4: guy who's a good would be a great leader of
Speaker 4: your defense, the guy with a green dot and middle
Speaker 4: linebacker type. But he's You're probably looking second round for him,
Speaker 4: but he could be gone before fifty six. Again, So
Speaker 4: let's go back to what.
Speaker 3: UH Savannah brought up about the defensive tackle Darius Robinson
Speaker 3: the end of the first round, right.
Speaker 4: He could be, could be into the first round, could be.
Speaker 3: So listening to what UH Stephen Jones said, if they
Speaker 3: want to get bigger in the middle, well there's another
Speaker 3: guy that can help play either position.
Speaker 4: It could be middle of the first round. You don't know, right,
Speaker 4: I Mean that's the thing with all these mock drafts
Speaker 4: that come out, these so called experts. It's like two
Speaker 4: guys do a mock draft back in January or they
Speaker 4: start rating the players, and then everybody, no, but everybody
Speaker 4: copies off the first the first guy, and so in
Speaker 4: the media, you get all these people slotted in certain
Speaker 4: areas of the draft, and I think it's going to
Speaker 4: be really interesting to see if you follow this stuff.
Speaker 4: If that you see a guy that's forty fifth on
Speaker 4: somebody's board goes twentieth in the draft, right, and Uh,
Speaker 4: there's gonna be a wide array of of Wow, they
Speaker 4: did that. Well. Actually, they know a heck of a
Speaker 4: lot more about the players than any of us out
Speaker 4: here do.
Speaker 6: So what if we have we moved Michael to linebacker
Speaker 6: right now? We need a defensive end?
Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, you're already down to defense events at least
Speaker 4: with Doran's Armstrong and Dante Fowler signing with Washington.
Speaker 6: So we are we not even thinking that that's a
Speaker 6: possibility to go with a defensive end.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 9: I think.
Speaker 3: That's why Bill likes Robinson.
Speaker 4: For he's got versatility, he can play.
Speaker 3: Three years at Missouri, he played defensive tackle, clash, he
Speaker 3: played defensive end, and he was pretty.
Speaker 4: But he's a big. He is a big guy though,
Speaker 4: he's two hundred and eighty five pounds, and so he
Speaker 4: would be like a base defensive end.
Speaker 2: He's gonna say, I can't see him getting around this with.
Speaker 4: No, he's not he's not a pen years back come around,
Speaker 4: you know, and with Ben and whatever. Uh, this isn't
Speaker 4: Gregory right.
Speaker 8: Right, no, right, But also I feel like they should
Speaker 8: be planning ahead. Given let's look at DeMarcus Lawrence. He's
Speaker 8: eleven seasons into the NFL.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't you want to.
Speaker 8: Be strategic if you did pick a defensive end because
Speaker 8: you have to plan for the future of DeMarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 3: Well, good point, because, by the way, this is the
Speaker 3: last year of his contract.
Speaker 2: I did not know he'd been on the team twenty fourteen.
Speaker 4: How about the twenty fourteen draft, You guys, twenty fourteen draft,
Speaker 4: you got Zach Martin in the first round and then
Speaker 4: you traded a second and third round pick to move
Speaker 4: up to take DeMarcus Lawrence at thirty four.
Speaker 2: I gotta says, he's not playing like he's eleven years in.
Speaker 4: The no and he and the other thing about Darius Robinson,
Speaker 4: he's got a lot of DeMarcus Lawrence in him as
Speaker 4: far as leadership goes and so forth. And that's that's
Speaker 4: the academic All American Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, So of
Speaker 4: course it's a lot easier to be academic All America
Speaker 4: when you go to Missouri.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but at least he knows the words to the
Speaker 3: fight song, because there's words to it.
Speaker 4: I know the words star Fights.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like one word too soon unless it's hyphen.
Speaker 4: Okay. So what you want to do on this show, then, yes,
Speaker 4: is you want to paint a scenario of trading down
Speaker 4: from twenty four and what might be available for the
Speaker 4: Cowboys if they did so, like trade down to say
Speaker 4: thirty or something like that. In fact, in my Big
Speaker 4: Green Notebook mock draft last night, I had a trade
Speaker 4: which matched up on the trade value chart where the
Speaker 4: Cowboys traded their first and second round pick to Baltimore
Speaker 4: for Baltimore's first, second, third, and fourth round picks.
Speaker 3: So then what the Cowboys did was they too.
Speaker 4: No, but it matched up with the trade value chart,
Speaker 4: and for Baltimore, what they're doing Baltimore moves up from
Speaker 4: thirty to twenty four in the first round, they moved
Speaker 4: up from sixty two to fifty six in the second round,
Speaker 4: and they already had another fourth round pick and so
Speaker 4: so basically all they were doing was giving up a
Speaker 4: third round pick to move up six spots in the
Speaker 4: first round and a fourth round pick to move up
Speaker 4: six spots in the second round right target their player.
Speaker 3: Let's work with Okay, we're gonna work with that.
Speaker 4: And you know what I'm gonna do when we come
Speaker 4: back here, I'm gonna call up a little mock draft simulator, okay,
Speaker 4: and we'll see who that mock draft simulator says will
Speaker 4: be available for the Cowboys at pick number thirty. Okay,
Speaker 4: all right, all right, and then we'll run through five
Speaker 4: candidates at different positions and we'll figure out who the
Speaker 4: Cowboys should draft.
Speaker 3: What a show to have at it's draft.
Speaker 2: Do you like that?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: Okay, we don't have to do it. I'm not forcing
Speaker 4: it out.
Speaker 9: I'm here for it.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, we're gonna do that. It's mock draft
Speaker 4: time when we come back here. On mock shot, I'm
Speaker 4: on the fin shot.
Speaker 2: I'm on the fence.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't think we're going to do this on
Speaker 4: this edition of Mix Shots, but Mickey insists that we
Speaker 4: do a mock draft.
Speaker 9: I thought Everson was supposed to come prepared with one as.
Speaker 4: Well, that was the hamework is simon true?
Speaker 2: That wasn't going to happen.
Speaker 4: There is a Grambling player. By the end of the show,
Speaker 4: I may convince you I should have taken a Grambling
Speaker 4: player in the seventh round of the draft. There's an
Speaker 4: edge rusher from Grambling in person. Okay, all right, So
Speaker 4: what Mickey wants to do is he wants to trade
Speaker 4: down from twenty four, and we just threw out a
Speaker 4: trade scenario with Baltimore. Let's say where they trade down
Speaker 4: to number thirty and pick up a third and a fourth,
Speaker 4: which would give the Cowboys now pick number thirty, and
Speaker 4: it would they also were trading down in the second
Speaker 4: round to sixty two, Okay, and then they have their
Speaker 4: own third round pick at eighty seven, Baltimore's third round
Speaker 4: at ninety three, and then a fourth round pick at
Speaker 4: one thirty.
Speaker 3: And it doesn't have to be that complicated by them.
Speaker 4: That's not complicated.
Speaker 3: They could trade down to twenty eight pick up for
Speaker 3: the five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're picking, we're trading down.
Speaker 3: We're just trading down.
Speaker 4: We're trading down from twenty four to thirty, and we're
Speaker 4: picking up a third round pick. Okay, okay, and the
Speaker 4: and the reason why, as we all know, that we
Speaker 4: need to pick up a third round pick, is there
Speaker 4: are about nine vacancies on the roster that haven't been
Speaker 4: filled and they only have seven draft picks, so we
Speaker 4: need to get to nine draft picks to fill these vacancies.
Speaker 2: Soice good.
Speaker 4: Okay. So I'm using the Pro Football Network mock draft
Speaker 4: simulator here and I am starting the draft right now,
Speaker 4: and Caleb Williams is the number one pick of the
Speaker 4: Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3: Shocking.
Speaker 4: It's going very fast here. We're moving on down, moving
Speaker 4: on down. Okay, Dallas Turner just went off the board.
Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy went to the Jets at number ten. Amarus Mimes,
Speaker 4: big tackle from George's gone, brought Bowers to Indianapolis, Quinnyon Mitchell,
Speaker 4: j C Lathan, Brian Thomas, Jared vers, Chop Robinson, Nate Kiggins, four,
Speaker 4: Jackson Powers. Johnson is gone. And here we are. We
Speaker 4: are at pick number twenty four. You actually have a
Speaker 4: trade offer from Washington. Dan Quinn's on the phone. Oh okay,
Speaker 4: he wants would you trade down from twenty four to
Speaker 4: thirty six to Washington? Oh wait, no, here's this proposal,
Speaker 4: which is crazy. This is Oh, okay, how about this one.
Speaker 4: I haven't looked at it. At the value chart, Washington
Speaker 4: wants to give you thirty six and forty okay for
Speaker 4: pick twenty four and eighty seven. No, it's not interested,
Speaker 4: not interested, and it's an even upswap. You're not gay
Speaker 4: a draft pick. Yeah, okay, all right, we rejected that.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: So at twenty four, okay, Graham Barton is available for you. Okay,
Speaker 4: do you want Graham Barton, who is the offensive lineman
Speaker 4: from Duke. He played left tackle his last three years there,
Speaker 4: he played center in his first year. He projects probably
Speaker 4: as a center or guard in the NFL. Very smart
Speaker 4: guy from Duke, and that's exactly what the Cowboys are
Speaker 4: looking for. That's why I see there are so many
Speaker 4: people out there saying, yes, we're taking Graham Barton, don't
Speaker 4: trade down.
Speaker 3: And that's why I see now why people are onto
Speaker 3: Graham Barton at twenty four. They're using the simulator.
Speaker 4: That's right, that's exactly right there, That is exactly right.
Speaker 3: All right, So just say you found a trades you're
Speaker 3: at around twenty eight or thirty, and.
Speaker 4: Let's just for everyone's sake, Graham Barton is gone, he's
Speaker 4: not available. Okay, Okay, so now we're trading we uh
Speaker 4: all right? In fact, I'm gonna Baltimore trade it up,
Speaker 4: and they took Graham Barton.
Speaker 2: Okay, So there you go.
Speaker 3: I lost it the whole thing.
Speaker 4: I just hit the wrong butt. Okay. So now I'm
Speaker 4: moving down to thirty. And here's what's available at thirty. Okay.
Speaker 4: Tyler Geiton offensive tackle, Oklahoma, Okay, Xavier Worthy wide receiver,
Speaker 4: Texas Keon Coleman wide receiver, Florida State, Kingsley Sua Mattaya
Speaker 4: offensive tackle BYU Darius Robinson defensive lineman, Missouri. How many
Speaker 4: more do you want? Zach Frasier center, West Virginia could
Speaker 4: stop right there? So what do you want to know?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 3: I want to know from a position standpoint, if all
Speaker 3: things are equal, what position would you value among those
Speaker 3: six guys? And trying to figure out if I take
Speaker 3: this position, is there a lot of another position I
Speaker 3: need available in the second round? What you have to consider?
Speaker 13: Right?
Speaker 3: You got to consider the depth of the draft, Like
Speaker 3: if I'm running out of centers, do I need to
Speaker 3: take one? Or if I need a linebacker, do I
Speaker 3: need to take a linebacker? And is the value with
Speaker 3: these wide receivers superseding the other positions?
Speaker 4: And where do you have these players graded on your rights?
Speaker 4: Just because Zach Frasier, for instance, is listed forty second
Speaker 4: on this mock draft simulator, you might have him as
Speaker 4: a third round pick.
Speaker 3: Well, I saw an interesting thing and I'm gonna forget
Speaker 3: the guy's name. The Morning News had a story on
Speaker 3: a private workout guy and he's supposed to be the
Speaker 3: offensive line whisperer and he works out Tyler Smith in
Speaker 3: the off season, and his contention was, Tyler Smith needs
Speaker 3: to stay at guard. But when he pointed out, if
Speaker 3: you want a center, the best center in the draft
Speaker 3: is Zach Fraser. And that's the guy I brought up.
Speaker 4: Not Jackson Powers Johnson, which is a lot of people
Speaker 4: have said Jackson Powers Johnson has some injury.
Speaker 3: I was going to point that out. So he said
Speaker 3: that Fraser would be the pick if you wanted a
Speaker 3: center over all the other centers that are available. But again,
Speaker 3: if Darien Robinson's there, Darius Robinson's there, or if there's
Speaker 3: a wide receiver that you have a high g aid on,
Speaker 3: what do you do.
Speaker 4: Look at the makeup of the let's just talk wide
Speaker 4: receiver for a second. Okay, and what the Cowboys have
Speaker 4: at wide receiver on this team. Obviously you have CD
Speaker 4: Lamb and you have an aging Brandon Cooks. Ever since,
Speaker 4: I want to ask you, what would you like to
Speaker 4: see at wide receiver on this team? Or just look
Speaker 4: in general at playmakers on this offense. Where is this
Speaker 4: team as far as playmakers game changers on this offense?
Speaker 6: Oh, we're at the top of the league as far
Speaker 6: as playmakers are concerned.
Speaker 4: Okay, who are they?
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb would be one. Yep. I like Cooks as
Speaker 2: well as a playmaker. Yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's thirty one, thirty two years old.
Speaker 2: Okay, so, which.
Speaker 4: Is fine for this year. Yeah, but this draft is
Speaker 4: not just for this year. It's for the next especially
Speaker 4: with the first round pick. You're talking five years here.
Speaker 6: So as far as wide receivers are concern those the
Speaker 6: only two.
Speaker 2: I like that tight end, How do you like it?
Speaker 4: How do you like the wide receivers? If one of
Speaker 4: them gets hurt.
Speaker 6: If one of them gets hurt me or I was
Speaker 6: gonna say, there's a big difference between one and no.
Speaker 4: If C d or Brandon Cooks got hurt. Team said
Speaker 4: at wide receiver.
Speaker 2: They would not be set well to wide receiver, not
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 4: They were at cornerback last year. Trayvon got hurt at
Speaker 4: cornerback last year. How were they at cornerback after he
Speaker 4: got hurt? Yeah, they were. See they were fortified because
Speaker 4: they had a Duran Bland who can write yea they woke. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they were. I think at wide receiver. If you first
Speaker 4: stay of camp CD gets hurt, now what do we do?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of equivalent there. You got Trayvon,
Speaker 4: who's one hundred million dollars player got hurt, and they
Speaker 4: were okay at cornerback, but right now that wide receiver.
Speaker 4: If your top wide receiver gets hurt, you know you're
Speaker 4: hurting a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, the backup. So they they are complimentary players, Tolbert.
Speaker 2: We have complimentary players.
Speaker 3: And Brooks are nice third receiver.
Speaker 2: Compliment.
Speaker 3: But if you have to move them up to number
Speaker 3: two and then who's number three, you're sitting there, gone.
Speaker 4: You're back to twenty seventeen after Jos left and you
Speaker 4: were in between, then you wound up trading for Amari Cooper.
Speaker 3: Unless you think Darden is it dark.
Speaker 4: He available, maybe you can get him for a fifth
Speaker 4: round available.
Speaker 10: Out there.
Speaker 4: So my point on that is, when we're looking at
Speaker 4: these positions, okay, they're not all the same as far
Speaker 4: as okay, there's a defensive lineman available, there's a center,
Speaker 4: there's an offensive tackle. There's when you're talking the offensive
Speaker 4: tackles Kingsley Sua Mattia or Tyler Geiton at number thirty, well,
Speaker 4: he's like, they're like the eighth There's already been seven
Speaker 4: offensive tackles that were drafted before then, and so you're
Speaker 4: so far down on the pecking order. It's not the
Speaker 4: same as here's the fourth wide receiver that you can
Speaker 4: get when you in a draft week. The top three
Speaker 4: wide receivers went in the top ten picks in the draft.
Speaker 4: So I like this keyon Cole from Florida State. Though
Speaker 4: you know what he is ceed Lemb's cousin too.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I saw that.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, he he he is explosive. The problem is
Speaker 4: he ran a four six forty but on the gauntlet
Speaker 4: at the Combine, they had they had a gun on
Speaker 4: him and it was twenty miles an hour run of
Speaker 4: the gauntlet, which is way faster than anybody else doing it.
Speaker 3: And if you see a high speed highlight film, making
Speaker 3: a one handed over the head catch had nothing to
Speaker 3: do with for six speed.
Speaker 4: I've done a lot of study on Keon Coleman, and
Speaker 4: I love him. There's another wide receiver out of South Carolina,
Speaker 4: Xavier Legett, who I really love too. He's another big,
Speaker 4: He's a big. These are both bigger wide receivers ever
Speaker 4: since six two two and fifteen pounds.
Speaker 3: He's the second coming with.
Speaker 6: See this draft guys, but I always will, We'll always you.
Speaker 2: Know, we gotta have a top guy. We gotta have
Speaker 2: a top guy.
Speaker 6: You better pick who go well with your team, and
Speaker 6: he may not be the top guy. You have all
Speaker 6: of these superbatives from these guys, and it's just so
Speaker 6: much to where it just becomes white noise.
Speaker 2: To me, it's just white noise. You could get a guy.
Speaker 6: We've got running backs at the in the league right
Speaker 6: now doing well, and I never.
Speaker 2: Heard of them through the drafts. I don't even know
Speaker 2: if they even got drafted.
Speaker 6: You've got positions out there and players that can make plays.
Speaker 6: And obviously you guys can tell I'm thinking anti draft
Speaker 6: on all this pass and I'm just saying because to me,
Speaker 6: you can find the player anywhere, and it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't have to be the first pick.
Speaker 6: It doesn't have to be the tenth pick, right, the
Speaker 6: last guy in that you can find the guy, thank you.
Speaker 4: See That's why that's my point on the whole thing
Speaker 4: when we're talking about positions. Okay, And that's why I
Speaker 4: love that I've done all this research on him because
Speaker 4: I know that there are players throughout this draft that
Speaker 4: are really good football players who can help they to
Speaker 4: bem one exactly exactly.
Speaker 8: But I think we need to go back to what
Speaker 8: is a huge need on this team, like a missing
Speaker 8: what is something that is.
Speaker 9: Going to help us?
Speaker 4: And there's huge needs on this team at wide receiver,
Speaker 4: two offensive tackles, two defensive Do we go with the quarterback?
Speaker 2: You go? Do you go? Let's just take the best athlete.
Speaker 2: Just take the best athlete.
Speaker 4: It's first question.
Speaker 3: In that case with these five or six guys, Darius
Speaker 3: Robinson might be the best.
Speaker 2: Athlete, Well, we need one. We can pick more than one.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying as far let's say our
Speaker 6: first three picks, let's say first two picks. Just get
Speaker 6: the best athlete, right, and then from there we be strategic.
Speaker 3: So do you want the best defensive tackle available there,
Speaker 3: the best center avail there, a wide receiver, or the
Speaker 3: fifth or sixth best offensive tackle.
Speaker 2: I say you take what you take and live with it.
Speaker 4: Which one is the best, which one is the.
Speaker 3: Best, which one has the best chance to be a
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl player? And a day one starter?
Speaker 6: Well that's now that's another thing. Which one can be
Speaker 6: the day one started? That's a good question.
Speaker 7: That is a good question, Zac Frazier, as the all
Speaker 7: of them, there's so many needs on this team, every
Speaker 7: single position.
Speaker 4: You can pick seven positions so they can start.
Speaker 3: It would come down to how they have them graded right,
Speaker 3: And we can make an argument for Fraser Robinson Coleman
Speaker 3: a worthy worthy And yeah, and I just don't I
Speaker 3: just don't want this this perception out there that if
Speaker 3: you don't take an offensive tackle you've screwed up the draft.
Speaker 3: Because I can get one in the second.
Speaker 4: Round, no doubt.
Speaker 3: And whoever I take, is he better than moving Tyler
Speaker 3: Smith to left tackle?
Speaker 4: And I'll give you a great example. There's a tackle
Speaker 4: at offensive tackle. Okay, people are talking, and I'm very
Speaker 4: familiar with Oklahoma football and I watched Tyler Goyiton play
Speaker 4: the last couple of years, and as in the so
Speaker 4: called experts say, okay, he's more of a developmental guy,
Speaker 4: but he's got all those tools. Okay, boy, the Oklahoma
Speaker 4: right tackle and he's a right tackle. Yeah, it's all
Speaker 4: he's played is right tackle. And then I go look
Speaker 4: at this TCU left tackle who's also played left guard,
Speaker 4: Brandon Coleman, and I'm going that is a better football
Speaker 4: player than the one that's projected in the first round.
Speaker 4: And he's accomplished more in college too than the guy
Speaker 4: who's projected to be a first rounder. How Tyler Geiiten's
Speaker 4: got the look, whatever. But Brandon Coleman, let me just
Speaker 4: show you. I'm Brandon Coleman, offensive tackle who's projected on
Speaker 4: the In this little mock draft simulator, they got him
Speaker 4: like with a fourth round grade. Dame Brugler had him
Speaker 4: sixty sixth on his list.
Speaker 3: The wide receiver.
Speaker 4: This is no Brandon Brandon offensive lineman.
Speaker 2: Ok.
Speaker 4: Okay, he's Brandon Coleman at TCU. He started this past
Speaker 4: year seven starts at left tackle, four at left guard.
Speaker 4: The previous year National Championship game he's played. He started
Speaker 4: at left tackle for fifteen games all year. The year
Speaker 4: before that, he was an eight game starter at left guard,
Speaker 4: so he's got position flexibility there. But my point on
Speaker 4: him is he ran at six four and a half
Speaker 4: three hundred and thirteen pounds with thirty four and a
Speaker 4: half inch arms and nearly eleven inch hands. Four. Okay,
Speaker 4: Tyron Smith ran a four nine to three at six
Speaker 4: five three oh seven, a thirty four vertical. Tyron Smith
Speaker 4: was a twenty nine vertical, a nine to six broad jump.
Speaker 4: Tyron was a nine to one, a seven forty cone drill.
Speaker 4: Tyron was a seven forty seven. It's almost identical numbers
Speaker 4: to Tyron Smith. I'm not saying he's Tyrons Smith with
Speaker 4: the fourth round because because he hasn't gotten the same
Speaker 4: kind of a claim that others have gotten. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's he's flowing.
Speaker 14: He's lower on the because and because there are like
Speaker 14: seven six seven, three hundred and forty pounds offensive offensive
Speaker 14: tackles from Alabama who are projected to be going.
Speaker 4: The first round. Yeah, ok so all these other tackles
Speaker 4: have been pushed down.
Speaker 9: What about Jordan Morgan from Arizona. What do you have
Speaker 9: on him?
Speaker 8: Because I've heard a lot of things as far as
Speaker 8: him potentially fitting in on this Cowboys roster, Like, what
Speaker 8: are your thoughts there?
Speaker 4: He's a nearly six five, three hundred and twelve pounds.
Speaker 4: One of the interesting things on him that I find
Speaker 4: interesting when you consider who the offensive line coach is
Speaker 4: with the Cowboy Mike Selari, who was on the Pete
Speaker 4: Carroll's staff at Seattle for four years. The offensive coordinator
Speaker 4: at Arizona is a guy by the name of Brennan Carroll,
Speaker 4: who is Pete Carroll's son, and Brennan Carroll was the
Speaker 4: assistant offensive line coach under Mike Selari at Seattle before
Speaker 4: he took the Arizona offensive coordinator job. So if anybody
Speaker 4: knows anything or has inside info on Jordan Morgan at Arizona,
Speaker 4: it would be Mike Selari, the offensive line coach from
Speaker 4: the Cowboys. I haven't looked at him that closely, but
Speaker 4: he is amongst about a dozen offensive tackles who could
Speaker 4: be taken in the first one hundred picks of this draft, all.
Speaker 3: Right, So if you take a tackle to me, he's
Speaker 3: got to be able to also play guard, all right.
Speaker 3: And so if I find out that Tyler Smith is
Speaker 3: the best tackle for left tackle on this team. If
Speaker 3: I take an offensive lineman, that guy's got to be
Speaker 3: able to beat out TJ. Bass for the starting left
Speaker 3: guard spot. He's got to be that versus. And how
Speaker 3: many times have the Cowboys taken a tackle and played
Speaker 3: them at guard to start their careers. It's happened several
Speaker 3: times so and including the last time Layel Collins. When
Speaker 3: he first got here, he started at left guard and
Speaker 3: then they moved him to right tackle. So I want
Speaker 3: a guy if I'm thinking right, because what if I
Speaker 3: get this first round guy and he just can't handle
Speaker 3: as a rookie left tackle? What do I do with him? Well,
Speaker 3: I got to move Tyler Smith out there. Otherwise I'm
Speaker 3: talking about using well, let's go or awesome, Awesome Richards
Speaker 3: or some young guy that hasn't played. I can't do
Speaker 3: that at left tackle.
Speaker 8: So, with where we're at right now, if you take
Speaker 8: brock Hoffman and then you have TJ.
Speaker 9: Bass, who would you rather keep at.
Speaker 3: That position as a starter?
Speaker 8: Yes, who would you rather trust as a starter there?
Speaker 8: Would that maybe dictate what you do in this draft?
Speaker 3: Which is a really good question because TJ. Bass i
Speaker 3: thought played decently when he had to come in as
Speaker 3: a backup. I don't know what they think of Hoffman.
Speaker 3: Hoffman did okay at center. So they're both kind of
Speaker 3: question marks on full time guys because I don't think
Speaker 3: either one started more than two games last year, and
Speaker 3: they were both came into the league as undrafted free agents.
Speaker 4: Nothing against undrafted free agents.
Speaker 2: Nothing at all.
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Speaker 4: It virtually from Detroit.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how are they gonna have a draft party
Speaker 3: with you and Detroit?
Speaker 9: I asked myself that question.
Speaker 4: Never does same way. How can we get through mix
Speaker 4: shots brought to you without Mickey? Well, we can we manage?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that might be coming up.
Speaker 4: Let's check in on last year's first round draft pick,
Speaker 4: Mazzi Smith.
Speaker 2: What do you know? Well?
Speaker 3: Stephen Jones talked about the defensive tackle position when he
Speaker 3: was asked and he said, I think the philosophy Zim
Speaker 3: brings to the table fits what Mazi did at Michigan.
Speaker 3: He went on to say, we have a lot of
Speaker 3: resources tied up in Mazi. What you pay a first
Speaker 3: round pick, and using a first round pick on him,
Speaker 3: I think he fits more into what Zim does than
Speaker 3: maybe what Dan was trying to get out of him.
Speaker 3: So I think that will be a big plus for us.
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure. It kind of sounds like he's
Speaker 3: saying we've already used the first round pick on a
Speaker 3: defensive tackle. We sort of trust him, at least that's
Speaker 3: what he's saying, and we're paying much money there, So
Speaker 3: would you do that a second time in a row
Speaker 3: at the same position. I think Darius Robinson is more
Speaker 3: versatile than Mozzy Smith. Mozzi Smith an anchor as a nose.
Speaker 3: Darius Robinson can play the nose the three technique, and
Speaker 3: he can play defensive end, so it's not exactly the
Speaker 3: same guy.
Speaker 2: So he's a better athlete.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, more versatile. And again Osa is going into
Speaker 3: the final year of his deal if I remember correct,
Speaker 3: So again you could qualify taking the defensive tackle because
Speaker 3: I could see our defensive end. However, you look at
Speaker 3: him because they need a defensive end, right, who's a
Speaker 3: defensive end right now?
Speaker 4: De Marcus Lawrence, Sam Williams.
Speaker 3: And Michael Parsons as a pass rusher. Maybe we don't
Speaker 3: know if he's a full time defensive yeah, right, maybe
Speaker 3: I out of necessity depending on what they get in
Speaker 3: the draft, right, if you get a linebacker, or maybe
Speaker 3: he can play more defensive end. I still say if
Speaker 3: you watch him down in and down out at defensive end,
Speaker 3: he gets neutralized more times than not, even though he's
Speaker 3: got all these pressures, which is great, But what about
Speaker 3: when they decide we're going to run at a two
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 6: He's had issues all year long, right, all year long,
Speaker 6: He's had issues. Sometimes he even has issues finding the
Speaker 6: ball at defensive end because they started to work him mentally, right,
Speaker 6: they wanted to they would keep him honest with the
Speaker 6: play action and so sometimes he's even taking a play
Speaker 6: action fake and there wasn't even the play action fake.
Speaker 2: But that just lets you know how confused things.
Speaker 6: Can be out there, no matter how good you are,
Speaker 6: if you're out of position certain plays and they decided
Speaker 6: to take advantage of you, they're going to take advantage
Speaker 6: of you.
Speaker 3: And we saw and if I need to remind everybody
Speaker 3: about stopping the run. And we talked about this two
Speaker 3: months ago. What Jordan Love had to say when Micah
Speaker 3: Parsons interviewed him at the Super Bowl, and he was
Speaker 3: very politely brought up right.
Speaker 2: Away, politely but candidly.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to like talk on school. Yeahacker, he said,
Speaker 3: just going against y'all. I'm not trying to talk smack,
Speaker 3: but y'all linebackers. I think y'all had a defensive back
Speaker 3: playing linebacker. That was our goal to run the ball.
Speaker 3: That was going to set everything else up. And he
Speaker 3: started off saying, and we saw last year we ran
Speaker 3: the ball against you.
Speaker 6: And it was mostly up the middle and to the
Speaker 6: right right offensive right to the up the middle into
Speaker 6: the offensive right.
Speaker 4: All right, we're final minute here, and when we next convene,
Speaker 4: the Cowboys will have a bunch of new players on
Speaker 4: this team. Next Monday, hopefully eight. Well at least well,
Speaker 4: actually I have a lot more than that college free agents.
Speaker 4: Have you looked at the quarterbacks at all?
Speaker 2: I haven't.
Speaker 4: At the top of the draft, I have, Okay, Washington,
Speaker 4: cold's the key to the draft. We know Caleb Williams
Speaker 4: to going to Chicago, and so what Washington does at
Speaker 4: number two is going to be very interesting. Jayden Daniels
Speaker 4: is and Drake May and then McCarthy has entered the
Speaker 4: Fray also, It's going to be very interesting to see
Speaker 4: what happens.
Speaker 3: I just got a feel for what they want to
Speaker 3: do that with.
Speaker 4: Cliff Kingsbury as the offensive coordinator, I think it's got
Speaker 4: to be Jayden Daniels. Yeah, I love you hope that Bill.
Speaker 4: You hope as a Cowboys fan, you hope Washington picks
Speaker 4: someone other than Jaden Dad. Okay, that's what That's what
Speaker 4: I wanted to get out of.
Speaker 3: You just confirm me May They I think May would
Speaker 3: be the other choicer.
Speaker 4: Right, Drake May from North Carolina? Right, So, okay, any
Speaker 4: parting words from anybody, let's go.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can say something way off off track. I
Speaker 6: didn't know Bill Parcell's name was Dwayne. I did not
Speaker 6: know this. This is I'm gonna call him and call
Speaker 6: him Dwayne.
Speaker 4: That is I did not know that, Dwayne William It's Dwayne.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, well, Dwayne Charles. He took Bill as a
Speaker 6: as a nickname. It wasn't even his real name. Bill
Speaker 6: is not his real name.
Speaker 2: He's not even anywhere in Dwayne Charles. I'm just saying.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, I'm gonna call them and get I
Speaker 6: gotta get the story on that.
Speaker 2: See what's going on.
Speaker 3: It's it's the part Italian in them. People always end
Speaker 3: up with nicknames.
Speaker 4: Where you come up.
Speaker 3: We don't know where I came up.
Speaker 4: Have fun in Detroit, have fun at the Stars game
Speaker 4: first tonight.
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