1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: All right, let's do another one because we got a 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: little bit of goof So. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: Am I the a hole for declining being a bridesmaid 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: because I can't handle wearing a dress. 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Wear what you want, go nude. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: This comes from Golden Bear, and they say I thirty 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: six females asked by my sister in law to be 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: her bridesmaid. First off, let me say that I love 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: and respect my sister in law. She is an amazing 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: and kind person, and I'm so grateful to have her 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: in my life. We are very close and get along 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: when one hundred percent of the time, with little to 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: no disagreement about anything. She recently asked me if I 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 2: would be one of her bridesmaids, and I asked her 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: if I would have to wear a dress. She said yes, 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: and I declined. I explained to her, I don't feel 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: comfortable at all wearing dresses. Dresses make me feel exposed, 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: almost like I'm naked. Even the thought of wearing a 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: dress makes me feel nauseous and panicked. On top with that, 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: I have really bad social anxiety and don't do well 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: standing up in front of crowds. 22 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: I think like ultimately, it's kind of like, hey, if 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, like think about it like this, Because as 24 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: a bridesmaid, you're you're standing up there, You're presenting flowers, 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: you're doing all these things. It might make it more 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: challenging for both Opie and the bride organizing everything. It 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: honestly might be better for everyone if if op just 28 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: sits out in all honesty. 29 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Op Dumbley hasn't done anything wrong. 30 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: No, no, it's you know, it's it's really up to Ope. 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm not comfortable in a dress. 32 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: But if one of my one of my best one 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: of my best friends, said hey, I want you to 34 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: be a part of my wedding party, but you have 35 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: to wear a dress. 36 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: I would, dude, I would. I would do that. I 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: would rock that dress. Put my hair in a bun. Dude, 38 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: watch that. 39 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: I look like the prettiest lady for the back I was, 40 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: especially after the CrossFit. 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: I was I'm not in CrossFit. I hate how this 42 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: is becoming a new inside show. And me saying that 43 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: just cemented it too. 44 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: So f me, I was a bride thanks, John says 45 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 2: after crossmas. 46 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: I did this to myself. I should know better. I 47 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: should just shut up. 48 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: I was a bridesmaid for my sister about fourteen years ago, 49 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: where I had to wear a dress and stand in 50 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: front of a lot of people, and it was nerve wracking. 51 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: The anxiety and feeling of being exposed and stared at 52 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: was almost too much for me to bear. I told 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: my sister a lot about this, and she said, you 54 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: did that for your sister. I explained that the only 55 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: reason I did was because my other sister declined to 56 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: be a bridesmaid and I felt obligated to even though 57 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: I was freaking out on the inside. I guess it's like, yes, 58 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: this is uncomfortable, but do you want to do it 59 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: for your friend. 60 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 3: I don't think that's a fair thing to put on. Ope, 61 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: Like Op's already expressed that she's not comfortable wearing a dress. 62 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: I think at that point, if the bride really wants 63 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: her to be in the wedding, should accommodate. 64 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: I agree, I do agree with that. I just think 65 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: if I was asked to wear a dress in a 66 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: wedding and something, I'm but. 67 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: It's totally it's totally different. 68 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: It's like different reasons. Yeah, I think it's just a 69 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: I think this is a lose lose scenario, having either 70 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: side try to get the other to acquiesce, right, because yeah, 71 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: for the bride, the bride is like, hey, this is 72 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: my wedding, Like I I want to be uh have 73 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: dresses and have my bridesmaids wear dresses. Totally fair. Op 74 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: is like, listen, I'm uncomfortable. It gives the litany of 75 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: reasons that that op Op supplied. I don't think it 76 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: would like make for a good experience for Op or 77 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: the bridal party as a whole. 78 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: Don't force either to peel. I understand op being uncomfortable. 79 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: Well, it's not just uncomfortable she has She said that 80 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: she has extreme anxiety wearing it. Like she said she 81 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: went through it, had extreme anxiety, was kind of freaking 82 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: out all day. 83 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: I understand that. But what I think is, I think 84 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: there's a solution that we could find that would kind 85 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: of satiate both parties. And I think our beautiful Okay 86 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: fam found such a solution. 87 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: Oh, leggings. Here's what I think. I think wear pants 88 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: underneath the dress. I think the bride can go to 89 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: Opie and say, like I was interested in maybe like 90 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: sitting down in brainstorming ideas of ways that we could 91 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: make you comfortable and that would kind of fit with 92 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: like the theme of the wedding and things of that nature. 93 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: Are you down to like sit down and kind of 94 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: brainstorm or does like does that sound like it would 95 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: interest you or would you be open to that? I 96 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: think if Ope says no to that, then it's just 97 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: not worth the hassle. But if, on the other hand, 98 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: if Opie says, yes, actually, let's come together, let's brainstorm, 99 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: let's see if we can find a solution, and that 100 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: is a solution that makes OPI feel good, then great. 101 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: It sounds like Ope is fine if she doesn't have 102 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: to wear a dress, so it's just like, let's find 103 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: a solution where you don't feel naked. 104 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: What I'm seeing is this could be a situation where 105 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: it just might be not worth the diving down the 106 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: rabbit hole for the bride to try to Well, it 107 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: could it could be. It totally could be. 108 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: I think you also sounds like it's one of our 109 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: best friends. It's like, which which is fair, like maybe 110 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: she was there. 111 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: I think I think it's a great idea to ask 112 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: her to come to the table, and if like that's 113 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: something she'd be open to. And I think if OPI 114 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: responds enthusiastically, then like great, like come to a table, 115 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: see if we can figure out and maybe that's what happens. 116 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: So my sister in law has offered all kinds of 117 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: bridesmaids attire ideas like wearing leather jackets, but all the 118 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: ideas she has our dresses, and I really don't feel 119 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: comfortable at all wearing one. The only times I've ever 120 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: worn a dress was when I was around the ages 121 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: of five or six for a picture day at school prom. 122 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: For a picture day at school prom which I was 123 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: forced to go to with my friend because my boyfriend 124 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: felt bad for him not having a date to go with. 125 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: And my sister's wedding wait, who. 126 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: Was around the ages of five to six. 127 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: When she was pictured day of school then Prom. It's 128 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: like three separate situations. Sorry for even more context. I'm 129 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: not a girly girl, never have been. As a child, 130 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: I played with barbies, Batman and Ninja Turtles. Where most 131 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: girls wanted to dress up as princesses for Halloween, I 132 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: wanted to be Batman and Donatello. I've always had mostly 133 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: guy friends because I just feel I can relate more 134 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: to guys and girls. I've always had dude sense of humor, 135 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: dark art, and dick jokes. I don't paint my nails 136 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: and dress up in gurly outfits. I rarely even wear 137 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: makeup those days. I mostly wear T shirts, leggings, wear 138 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: leggings and hoodies because I feel most comfortable in that. 139 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: I know it's hard for my sister and allowed to 140 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: understand because she is stunningly beautiful and wears dresses all 141 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: the time and she feels good wearing that kind of stuff. 142 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: When I wear a dress, I just feel naked and anxious. 143 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: Oh sorry, really quick. I just wanted to point out 144 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: being beanington. This is what I'm thinking this as a 145 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: trans person, I smell this for you. This might be 146 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: a person who who is trans or like going through 147 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: that realization and that's why they don't want to wear 148 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: a dress, because it makes them just work. 149 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: Potentially, but this is a potential but. 150 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: We don't know anything about the story, but just based 151 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: off that, it sounds like. 152 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: Potentially, but I feel like like we don't have enough 153 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: context to really well. 154 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: Also, I could see they're like often in these stories 155 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: there's like a big plot twist that we didn't see coming. 156 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: And maybe that's in the. 157 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: End, I know her wedding day is her day, and 158 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: it's not about me, and I feel really bad for 159 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: declining her offer to be a bridesmaid. At the same time, 160 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: I don't feel like I should have to put myself 161 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: in a position that makes me feel exposed and on 162 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: the verge of tears and vomiting. Am I the A hole? 163 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: And there is an edits and some relevant comments and 164 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: the edit is juicy, it's thick. But John, what do 165 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: you think is OP the A hole? 166 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: No? I don't think OP is the A hole. I 167 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: feel like at this point, it seemed like kind of 168 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the most recent part we read 169 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: that was their kind of like coming to the table, 170 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: and She's like, oh, I have like five or six 171 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: you have a few like dress ideas, but I do want, like, 172 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: of all of the options I have, I do want 173 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: every single one of them to have all of the 174 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: bridesmaids and dresses. And then OPI was like, yeah, I'm 175 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: not feeling that. It kind of seems like they've had 176 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: their come to the table moment. I just don't know 177 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: if it's the juice is worth the squeeze here. Yeah, yeah, 178 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean at this point at this point. I definitely 179 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: don't think Opie is an a hole. Yeah, for sure. 180 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: I mean it's like she's dealing with social anxiety. It's 181 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: it's hard for her to be even in front of people. 182 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: I don't feel like there's been if it's truly about 183 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: the dress, I don't feel like there's been enough exploration 184 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 2: of other options to make Opie uncomfortable. But if it's 185 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: not actually about the dress and it's about something else, 186 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: then we should express that. If it's actually not about 187 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: the dress, it's more about the social anxiety, and like 188 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: the fact that she feels like she is going to 189 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: throw up, and it's she's going to throw up just 190 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 2: because she's in front of people, not because she's in 191 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: front of people with the dress. Like, I think that 192 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: could be a different scenario. But I feel like there 193 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: should be more exploration of other options. 194 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm really about the Yeah, I'm just thinking from the 195 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: from the bride's perspective. The bride still has the entire 196 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: wedding to plan. 197 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: If I was the person having the wedding, I wouldn't 198 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: be mad, but I would be sad if one of 199 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: my best friends said no to being in uh my 200 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: wedding party because they didn't want to wear something I 201 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: would like do everything in my ability to make them 202 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 2: comfortable while also like fitting as much with whatever theme 203 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 2: is being chosen. 204 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think on a friend level. Yeah, yes, that's 205 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: not the a hole. But I just wish there was more. 206 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: But I don't know there is an edit all right, 207 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: So this is only my second Reddit post ever, so 208 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure how to update. In order to 209 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: try to end everyone's questions, let me just say first 210 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: and foremost, I am a straight woman. I am not 211 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: confused about my gender. I'm just not a feminine woman. 212 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: I lean more masculine, not to the point where I 213 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: get mistaken for a man. But I have had quite 214 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: a few lesbian women approach me thinking I was a 215 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: lesbian based on how I look and carry myself. For 216 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: my own wedding, I was horrified of the idea of 217 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: having to be in front of a bunch of people 218 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: and wear a dress, so my husband and I opted 219 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: to get married by a justice of the peace in 220 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: a backyard with two witnesses. I wore gray skinny jeans, 221 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: men's vans, high top sneakers, and a teenage mutant ninja turtle, 222 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: hoodie and makeup. Riley likes that I love. I was 223 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: ready for that. 224 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: I do have problems with my anxiety. I have my 225 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: whole life. I am not trying to over use that 226 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: word or use it as a cop out. It's literally 227 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 2: been a lifelong struggle for me. Some things are worse 228 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: than others for me, wearing a dress being one of them. 229 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: I feel about as uncomfortable as my husband would wearing 230 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: a dress. It's not something that feels right to me, 231 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: and for the few times I have worn dresses in 232 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 2: my life, it was never a choice. I've seen a 233 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: therapist in the past and I loved it. It actually 234 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 2: helped a lot because I used to let my anxiety 235 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: turn into anger, which I no longer do. The anxiety 236 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: of wearing a dress and standing in front of a 237 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: crowd doesn't affect my daily life because I choose to 238 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: not wear dresses and stand in front of crowds. These 239 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: things are not things I feel that I need to 240 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: do in my life, so I avoid them. My sister 241 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: in law is well aware of the kind of woman 242 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: I am, and she knew asking me to wear a 243 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 2: dress was more than likely going to be a no. 244 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: But she did ask me because she wants to include me. 245 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: I get that, and I love her for it. I 246 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: just know if I wore a dress at her wedding, 247 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: I would be having some really bad anxiety issues, and 248 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: I don't want my issues to get in the way 249 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: of her having a nice wedding, because wedding days can 250 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: be very stressful, especially for the bride. I did tell her, 251 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: if she really wants me as a bridesmaid, I would 252 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: be much more comfortable in a suit or dress pants 253 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: and a dress shirt. But she said she wants bridesmaid dresses, 254 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: which is fine, and I don't expect her to change 255 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: her vision for me because it's not my day, which 256 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: is fine. 257 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: I think that the further context of their exchange, like 258 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: it is highly possible that actually the bride knew going 259 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: into the conversation that she was going to say no. 260 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: But it's like, I need to make sure I at 261 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: least give her the option, just to let her know 262 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: I love her and I do want to make her 263 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: feel included to the most extent. 264 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: I can honestly that one sentence makes me feel better 265 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: about the whole situation, because both are like, hey, don't 266 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: worry about it. I totally get it, and I think 267 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: that is a sign of people that know themselves. 268 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and know the other party. Yeah. 269 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so good additional context. That is great additional context. 270 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: I feel much better about it now. That's why I 271 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: declined her offer to be bridesmaid. She has since continued 272 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: to try to get me to agree to wear a dress, 273 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: and I have continued to tell her it makes me uncomfortable. 274 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: She hasn't been mean about it or anything. She's just 275 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: very set on it. I have offered to make her 276 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: a bouquet and help decorate her wedding, and I'm most 277 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 2: definitely going to be attending as a guest. I'm more 278 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: than likely just going to buy some black slacks, a 279 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: simple dress top, and some black dress shoes to wear 280 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: to her wedding. Still formal, just not super feminine. Also, 281 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: the last two paragraphs were just to describe my personality 282 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: for reference. I'm not really good at writing, and my 283 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: wording sucks. I just don't think I'm special by any means. 284 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: I'm not someone that likes to draw attention to myself. 285 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: Quite the opposite. I like to disappear in the background, 286 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: even at family gatherings. I tend to duck off by 287 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: myself or by my husband. I just feel more comfortable 288 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: that way. My husband's family are amazing, caring people. It 289 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: took me a long time to get comfortable around them, 290 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: but when I did, it felt so good. They actually 291 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: opened my eyes to what a loving, supportive family looks like. 292 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: They also know I struggle with anxiety and self worth 293 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: and they love me through it. I'm so grateful to 294 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: them for that. I guess that's why I also feel 295 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: guilty for having the struggle. And there is one relevant 296 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: comment to close it out. 297 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 4: S W. 298 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: Barnes two says, I guess the first question is is 299 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 2: this anxiety stopping you from doing something you really want 300 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: to do. If it is, then you should seek therapy 301 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: to give you the tools to be able to do 302 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: what you want. But if you are thinking, uh, I 303 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: really don't want to do this, and even if therapy 304 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: made me able to do it, I still wouldn't want. 305 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: To, then just decline. 306 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: I think like the general piece of advice is you 307 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: can set your own boundaries, yeah, and do. 308 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: What you want and people should respect that. Yeah. 309 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: I think that's fine. I think the other thing is, 310 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: if you have crippling anxiety, take steps to make the 311 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: world an easier place to navigate so you can do 312 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: anything that you want to do. 313 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think Op did make a point on 314 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: like like I think OP was like, hey, I did 315 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: work with this with a therapist. I did open up 316 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: to my husband's FAI, which is like signs of growth 317 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: on the the social anxiety that she would need like 318 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: kind of it just happens in everyday life. It's like 319 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: hard to avoid. And then she was like on the 320 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: dress and standing in front of people specifically, those are 321 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: two specific things that like I don't deem as like 322 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: really necessary and like the same way if like if 323 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: someone was like really terrified of like going really fast 324 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: in a car, for example, you could be like, hey, 325 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: I could do this challenge of like I'm gonna conquer 326 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: my fear. I'm gonna go to on a racetrack. I'm 327 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: gonna learn and like conquer this fear as like a 328 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: challenger like overco something which is great. Or you could 329 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: be like, there is literally no reason for me to 330 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: go one hundred and seventy five miles per hour and 331 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: if I want to be safe, there's literally no reason 332 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: for it and you don't need it in your everyday life. 333 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: So if not, then that's fine too. I thought that 334 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: that was also a good distinction and also OP mentioning like, hey, 335 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: there are other areas where I've like grown and like 336 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: with good people and therapy, of which is great. 337 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: But what do you think about OP dipping out of 338 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: the wedding for this reason for not want to wear 339 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: a dress? Is there anything you think OP should have 340 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: done differently? Is there anything that you think that the 341 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: bride to be should do differently? Let us know in 342 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: the comments below. But with that, if you love us, 343 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: make sure to subscribe. We love you and see you tomorrow. 344 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: This is an episode from Deep Within the Archives. Time 345 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: for okop. 346 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: Relam, John, You're in a relationship, right, Hell heck, yeah, 347 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: i am. I'm I'm kind of in something. 348 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: You're kind of in multiple relationships potentially, Yeah, I'm in. 349 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm in. 350 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm in a situationship right now, a situation Yeah, it's uh, 351 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: we're trying to figure out. But anyway, the thing is, 352 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: I'm trying to learn how to be a better lover, better, 353 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: a better a better boyfriend, a better situation ship man, and. 354 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: I want to learn for the best. 355 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: Oh, definitely, and I feel like there's no better way 356 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: to learn about how a functioning relationship blossoms, oh and dies. 357 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: Paternity Court. It is. It is the epitome of relationship 358 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: advice when you think about it. 359 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like, this is like this is what 360 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: you do not do, or maybe it is what you 361 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 2: do depending on what kind of relationship. 362 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I love and adore my partner, or maybe 363 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: I get ten mistresses. 364 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: You don't know, Ay, John, I think ten mistresses would 365 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: suit you. But we are the official judges of the 366 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 2: Paternity Court, and we're gonna judge this crazy freaking story. 367 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 2: The title is Afghanistan veteran learns his wife cheated when 368 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: he was deployed during his tour of duty. You know 369 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: that was getting a tour of her booty. Yeah, she 370 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 2: was doing a whole different tour. Oh yeah, dude, I 371 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: was trying to get on that tour oh close before 372 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 2: I could get in rats unfortunately. 373 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: Yes, but hey, I'm here, now here and now and 374 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe there's maybe there's she'll help. Maybe 375 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: we'll learn the contact information of this person in particular, 376 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: we can bring on the show we get started only 377 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: and only stands and. 378 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: Only Yeah, uh, and only no judgment, only fans here 379 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 2: we go. 380 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: I love that there's two judges. That's right, Samuel. Are 381 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: you ready to begin the case? I am so ready. 382 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: Get me on this case. Gabble, gabble, gabble, Let the case, 383 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: Let the case begin. 384 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 5: You may be seated. 385 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 4: Hell, your honor, this is a case of thrill killed intense. 386 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: The intro is paternity court where lives. Yeah, mister, you have. 387 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 6: Entered this courtroom with a marriage on the brink of 388 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 6: throat kill. 389 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 5: State that while you were. 390 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: Twenty other men, his wife is a second and twenty 391 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: other men. 392 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: It's not just the one, it's twenty yi. 393 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: No, no, no, at the least this guy looks like an 394 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: Afghanistan at least twenty other men. My god, he's like, 395 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: I'm confirmed twenty. I was watching every single one of them. 396 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: I feel like that's his like like a sniper count. 397 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: It's like, you know how many how many people have 398 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: I taken. 399 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: Out in the field? Well, at least maybe those are 400 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: the that's the people that he should be sniping. Honest. 401 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, the confirmed twenty kills Afghanistan veteran goes on a rampage. 402 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: We are starting off off, Yeah, we are. 403 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 6: Around town with other men, and she has admitted to curaded. 404 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: The judge already served. Looks. 405 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 6: You claim you are not sure if you are the 406 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 6: father of she built eighteen month old Liliana and have 407 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 6: asked the court for. 408 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: The kid on set. I don't know. 409 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if the kid actually yeah, where Also 410 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: the kid be like zooming it, Like the baby is 411 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: just like zooming into the the. 412 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: What if they call the baby to the stands, baby, 413 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: where were you the night of April twenty first at 414 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: nine pm? 415 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 2: Do you remember yourself being conceived? 416 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: Which a man? Was it? To the father that's in 417 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: this room? 418 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 4: Bro? 419 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: What they have to call the baby to the stand? 420 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 2: Also imagine like growing up and being like, yeah, I 421 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: was on like paternity courts most viewed. 422 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's me. That's my god. The full 423 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: story is that we watched the whole thing and then 424 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: Sam reveals that he is actually the eternity kid that 425 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: is in question. 426 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 4: Here. 427 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: Oh god, a blocked dad my memory. That's why this 428 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 1: is the first time thinking of viewing it. 429 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, missus throw Hill, you say you begin exotics to 430 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 6: make extra money, because. 431 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: Bro, a beggar, this is a starting off a hot 432 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: yo like man goes off to war. He's trying to 433 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: provide for his family and she starts stripping. Listen, she's 434 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: he's he's provided for his family. She's providing those cheeks. Okay, 435 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: everyone is providing in as long as they're on the 436 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 2: same page. 437 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: And she was truthful about it, you know, which. 438 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: Of course she's gonna be right, right, of course, of course, 439 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: and he's probably cool with her stripping, right, Oh yeah, 440 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 2: definitely love he loves it. This military man, he's like. 441 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: Only twenty go for forty girls. 442 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: Forty Hey, you bring in the big bugs. 443 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 6: Mister Thill's military salary was inadequate to live on, and 444 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 6: that led to a few indiscretions. You argue that mister 445 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 6: thrill Kill treats your daughter Liliana differently than your other 446 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 6: children and are hoping today's DNA results. 447 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: Will see because it's not his kidd want. 448 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 6: And answer now, mister thrill Killed, when did you first 449 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 6: discover that your wife had been unfaithful? 450 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 7: Actually, remember I was overseas in Afghanistan and I was 451 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 7: at up in the northeast and a soldier might trap 452 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 7: me on the boots that hey right now, So earlier 453 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 7: on in the day, me and him got into some words. 454 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna know a soldier's betrayal. 455 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 7: His wife and my wife were friends, and she had 456 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 7: found out that she was actually stripping as we spoke, 457 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 7: and at the time, you know I found out about it, 458 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 7: I thought, you know, it was all just I went 459 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 7: all the way to the internet lounge, got on Facebook 460 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 7: and asked her, Hey, you know, is is it true 461 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 7: you're doing what I told you I didn't want you 462 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 7: doing at all? And she didn't really say anything honestly, 463 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 7: And right after. 464 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: I left it soldier's betrayal. 465 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: I love it, Like he had such a low bar. 466 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: It's like, babe, just not stripped while I'm away fighting 467 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: for your life and your country. 468 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: Is uh, She's like, nah, I love how they keep 469 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: popping up a soldier's paternity betrayal. Man. 470 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 7: I was in the dark for three weeks and wait, wait, 471 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 7: roll it back and they actually turned off and left there. 472 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 7: Our base actually got attacked and they actually turned off 473 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 7: the internet. 474 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 4: For three weeks. 475 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 7: I was in the dark for three weeks and then 476 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 7: another two weeks after. 477 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 4: And wall was at bogging. 478 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 7: I finally was able to get back online and there's 479 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 7: this some clown on there saying, you know, you know, 480 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 7: liking all her skimpy photos. You know, yeah, I was 481 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 7: following herd He's like, oh, I know at the club. 482 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 7: So now I started doing a little bit of research, wondering, 483 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 7: you know who this guy is. So I went to 484 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 7: the phones and I called her and said, Hey, you know, 485 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 7: I know you're stripping. You know that that, you know 486 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 7: I could somewhat deal with. 487 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: Was in a war zone and says he has to 488 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: cope with the news. I love these updates, like breaking news, 489 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: breaking news, his base was attacked by his girl was 490 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: giving up them cheeks. 491 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: I feel so bad for this guy, bro, Oh my god. 492 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: And it's like the more he learns, oh, he's getting 493 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: his whole life just stripped away, no pun intended. 494 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 4: Hey, you know, I know you're stripping. 495 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 7: You know that that, you know I could somewhat deal with, 496 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 7: you know, tell me about this guy that's going on. 497 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 7: And she says, Oh, it's nothing, it's just a friend, 498 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 7: you know, et cetera. The same bs that every girl say. 499 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 8: He's done. He hacked my Facebook. 500 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 9: He made it my privacy and he looked into my stuff, 501 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 9: into my messages. 502 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 8: So that's how we found out. 503 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 5: What did he find there? 504 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 8: More messages? 505 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 7: Yes, but actually, ma'am, she's gonna already lie she Actually 506 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 7: I got on there and on the inbox, I see 507 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 7: I see, Oh baby, I can't wait to see you 508 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 7: later on the night. I had a great time with you. 509 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 7: I can't wait to see you. Know the last few 510 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 7: days we spent together, it's been amazing. 511 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 5: These are the messages. 512 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 6: Yes, ma'am, see that your wife is entertaining while you're 513 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 6: serving your country. 514 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am, bro the judge is not having us. 515 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: She's stoke. I love the people cackle like in the background. 516 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: I wish this is to make real courts like this. Yeah, 517 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: they should do that. I want I want tomatoes too. 518 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: I want to like throw tomatoes as the person who's lying, 519 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: you know, bring in the dancing lobsters. 520 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can tell me. 521 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 7: Your friend's husband told me that she is doing she's 522 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 7: doing because she didn't have the decency to say, hey, 523 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 7: I'm doing all misthrow killed. 524 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 4: I'm what. 525 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 6: Your husband's overseas, serving his country, serving our country, keeping 526 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 6: us all safe. To entertain these type of messages on 527 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 6: your Facebook. And you've admitted that you had a few indiscretions. 528 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 3: What is going on? 529 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 8: We were done, we were not together. 530 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 9: We had a phone conversation and he had said we're 531 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 9: going to get into and I'll send you the divorce 532 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 9: papers and then we hung up and let me finish. 533 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 4: I was penty. 534 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 7: We got a phone argument, like you said on Skype, 535 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 7: and I told her, look, if you're gonna strip after 536 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 7: me and you, I've already gone through the discussion that 537 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 7: you're not to do it until I get back, and 538 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 7: we might even we'll talk about it. 539 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 4: Then she says. 540 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 8: There was reasons why I needed to. 541 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 542 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 7: See, she says she needs she needed fun and say 543 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 7: that our family overs three a month living in. 544 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: That much room. 545 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 8: Okay, you're on. 546 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: Bro, where are you renting? Wait, he's about four hundred 547 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: dollars a month. Four hundred dollars a month. I mean 548 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: like probably like in the South or something, you probably 549 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: get pretty cheap. And this is maybe like a few 550 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: years ago. 551 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I said Santa Monica, run dude, like 552 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: he's like more than providing what how much did he 553 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 2: get a month? 554 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: Four to five k hacks free? So all four to 555 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: five k of that is basically usable. It sounds like, yeah, 556 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: and her rent is four high hundred, so that means 557 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: like she would literally have to spend four hundred minus 558 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: four to five thousand dollars the thirty six hundred bucks 559 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: sood thirty six to forty six hundred, So she had 560 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: to she had to spend thirty six to forty six 561 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: not not just spend that much. 562 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: Hey, but good on her for not asking for more money, 563 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: doing and getting that old entrepreneurial spirit out there. 564 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, a real boss babe goes and gets her own money. Hey, 565 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: let's go with that. She shut up. 566 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 8: There are expenses when you have kids. 567 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 9: The money that was coming in, Let's just be real, 568 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 9: it wasn't enough to support the kids. 569 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 8: And on top of that enough to support the kids. 570 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 5: How because I'm going to keep it grand a month 571 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 5: I had to have. 572 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 6: Namely, this is what I'm trying to understand, mister Keil. 573 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 10: You say you. 574 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 6: Guys were done so in other words, these things that 575 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 6: he's fine on your Facebook indiscretions you're telling him about 576 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 6: this really shouldn't be an issue because in your mind, 577 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 6: you guys you thought your marriage was old. Yes, because 578 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 6: you all had an argument about you stripping and you 579 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 6: hold up. 580 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 8: Yes, your honor. 581 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 9: We hung up and we said it was done because 582 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 9: I wanted to do what I want to do. 583 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 8: We okay, now we're getting. 584 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 5: To the truth. 585 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 8: Okay. 586 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: Also I love like she's wearing the Jesus Cross. 587 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 5: You wanted to do what you wanted to do. 588 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 9: Actually, why is it that you wanted because we got 589 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 9: married too young? 590 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 8: Well I needed to because well. 591 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: You just let me. 592 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: Yes grow. God, he prepared that one. 593 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: He probably has like a list of like five singers 594 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: that he's like, all right, if this moment comes, drop 595 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: crowd like stand up in applod Oh my god, I 596 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: want to hear that. 597 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 6: It definitely reacting is because I really want to know. 598 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 8: Always comment why. 599 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 6: I mean, I want to go get it next to 600 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 6: job at the moment, Okay, I want together. 601 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 7: Since two thousand and eight, she hasn't started working until 602 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 7: actually about three weeks ago. Actually first time Joe hooking 603 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 7: or stripping hooking. 604 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 5: You're selling your body for money hook her? No, it's 605 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 5: anyway excuse. 606 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: Me, wow yo anyway, whoa whoa? 607 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 7: When I when actually went out the day I was 608 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 7: supposed to come back home from overseas, we were told 609 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 7: before we even got on the plane, a former col Wisconsin, 610 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 7: that there's going to be the color guard, the motorcycles 611 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 7: that drive, you know, in front. 612 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 4: The news was going to be there. 613 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 7: I get there and not my father, my mother, my wife. 614 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 7: Like I said, we'll quote that weren't even there. We 615 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 7: get there, you know, they call everyody's names off every 616 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 7: from clapping and cheering, they come to my name and it's. 617 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 4: Just dead quiet. 618 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 5: No one was there, so as every zer to go home. 619 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 7: I'm sitting over there with my bags, and I didn't 620 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 7: have a phone yet, so I couldn't even call her. 621 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 4: So I'm sitting there. 622 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 5: Under start breaking with my one my army. 623 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 7: Bag of mines one one side in a suitcase on 624 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 7: the other. 625 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 8: No, I was waiting in the car for thirty minutes. 626 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 5: Wait, you waited in the car. 627 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 6: So when they call his name, he says, no one 628 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 6: was there to clap or chair. Did you hear them 629 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 6: call his name? 630 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 8: We weren't at the airport. 631 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 2: We were. 632 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 9: I was waiting across from his unit where he told 633 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 9: me to wait, and I sat there for thirty minutes waiting. 634 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 7: Actually, ma'am, two weeks before we came back from overseas, 635 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 7: my unit actually sent papers to all the family members 636 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 7: back home given the exact address and time and who 637 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 7: would be there at the time. 638 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 5: So it's not like somebody didn't know. 639 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: She didn't know where it was that when it was 640 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: being also receipts Important five. 641 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 4: Channel eight, Channel seven, Channel fourteen and eleven. 642 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 6: Did she eventually pick you up? 643 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 4: Actually, you know when she. 644 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 7: Picked uide, she came dressed in her clear hooker shoes. 645 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 6: And this hooker shoes that's one whole outfit. 646 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 4: That's I think that's address is what they call it. 647 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 648 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 7: She's clear shoes with money still in them. 649 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: Oh, clear shoes with money in this strip or and 650 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: then this dress that is oh and at this formal 651 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: military celebration. 652 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: And let me get on my you know, like court 653 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: legal Timeline Jazz. She said she was sitting there for 654 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: thirty minutes, So that means she was sitting there and 655 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: she could like she could have just thrown like a 656 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: like a T shirt or something like some like leggings 657 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: or I don't know something and then just put on 658 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: like like flats or something. But according to her, she's 659 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: sitting there. I guess if he's right and she's right, 660 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: she's sitting there for thirty minutes in that and clear 661 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: shoes filled with money with singles. 662 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: You could have just taken out the singles. Dude, dude, 663 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: I like her style. Like one thing this woman's got. 664 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: She don't care oh about anything, bro honestly like buck 665 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: the system. 666 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: I do what I want. I am who I am, 667 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm not going to change it. Listen, let 668 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: your freak flag fly girl or yeah that's official. 669 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, at least the divorce is coming soon, and see 670 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: we'll have any attachments the kids. 671 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 6: So you come home, mister threll l Wait, wait, your 672 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 6: wife and your family aren't there. But she eventually does 673 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 6: pick you up. So you were there and some point 674 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 6: to get him. Yes, Ron, So you're riding down the highway. 675 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, she has her phone, and you know, I was 676 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 7: wondering who because I saw the guy. She hadn't fully 677 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 7: admitted that she's been seeing this guy. So I snatched 678 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 7: the phone from her and I started going through it, 679 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 7: and as I was looking through it, there was a 680 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 7: numb that she'd called like thirteen times. So I called 681 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 7: him right back the phone. Hey, you know, I said, 682 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 7: who is this you the one that's been my wife? 683 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 7: He said, yes, yes, I've been. She starts laughing, he 684 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 7: was just going to say that. He's just saying that 685 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 7: to make you mad, and it was ridiculous. 686 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, that was just the only. 687 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 6: So when he calls the guy on the phone, you 688 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 6: deny and say okay. 689 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 4: So we get back to. 690 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 7: The house and you're on her like throughout the night. 691 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 7: I guess she had She had not gone over there 692 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 7: for three or four days or so. And he texts 693 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 7: her and says, you know, I guess I figured now 694 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 7: who you picked. And so she starts crying and I said. 695 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: What are you crying? 696 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 8: She's like, She's like, why do you care? 697 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 5: Why would you have a boyfriend if you're married? 698 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: Paper? 699 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 8: We were done? 700 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: You have papers. 701 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 8: Why do we have to have papers to be done? 702 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 6: You said it was because in a marriage we were. 703 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: Just okay, wait, real talk. If you asked for a divorce, 704 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: married till you get one, and I don't know. 705 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: I think if you asked for a divorce like you're 706 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: kind I think I think you're yeah, I I I 707 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: where everyone's pilot on her by my my, my my. 708 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 2: Judge head says, if you ask for a divorce, I 709 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: think you don't have the same level of commitment anymore. 710 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I I I think that's the only thing 711 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: she said that's right so far. Is like, okay, if 712 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: you are if you are saying are you if you're 713 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: saying like, hey, we're done, then then you are done. 714 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: I mean if that's been like verbally communicated, you know, I. 715 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 2: Don't know, but it doesn't Also like why was she 716 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 2: if they were done? Why is she like showing up 717 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 2: to his graduation? 718 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: That's a great point. And also it's just generally I 719 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: don't know, Like, well, already she was she was cheating 720 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: and stuff before because she had to have because the 721 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: guy said like, oh yeah, we were messing around. We're 722 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: now hikes, yikes. 723 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 6: In your mind this was a mutual decision that you 724 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 6: two were finished and we're heading for a divorce. Yes, 725 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 6: until you get home and somehow being husband and wife again, 726 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 6: don't you. 727 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 7: Yes, actually had like makeup sex like within minutes. 728 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 8: All right. 729 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 1: I love how Bashal is like. 730 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 10: Vince that led to the conception, actually, ma'amo. 731 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 6: Your last child in which you feel you may or 732 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 6: may not be the father. 733 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 7: Well, when I was overseas, I shout out about her stripping. 734 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: In baby Baby's over here, striking a pose. 735 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but also the makeup sex that could have led 736 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 2: to the kid, oh one hundred. 737 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: So it's it's possible. Even though she's like in the 738 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: wrong and like every possible way, it is still a 739 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: possibility at this point that the child is his. 740 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 2: So that's probably why she went to paternity court. He's 741 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 2: so sure that it's one of the other not his kid. 742 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: She's like, it could be here, your kid. Yeah, all right, 743 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 2: all right, I get why everyone's here, now, I get 744 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 2: why we've gathered you all today. 745 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 7: There's a few options that came across my head of 746 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 7: how I should do with it. 747 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 4: So when I got. 748 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 7: Back home, within those first week or two, we had 749 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 7: sex like four or five times a day and purposely. 750 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 6: So you had it in your mind that if I 751 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 6: get my wife pregnant, she'll stop stripping Roger, because that's 752 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 6: gonna definitely. 753 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: Be I'm sorry, that is the terrible logic. Awful. 754 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 5: Also, you're in the paternity court to prove you're not 755 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 5: the father. 756 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, this kind of goest to your case. Dog. 757 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: Also, like they're both kind of shit, Like that's a 758 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 2: pretty shitty thing to do day. 759 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And also. 760 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: There's plenty of pregnant strippers out there actually and just 761 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 2: just a case for some lot of like mean, oh, 762 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: I know what, we'll save our relationship adding a child 763 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: to this equation. Yeah, it only complicates it and makes 764 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 2: it worse, as you are seeing in paternity court, like 765 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: like freaking uh relationship one oh one, don't let like 766 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 2: your relationship is probably not going well. 767 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: If you've landed in paternity court. Facts hit that place. 768 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 7: But kind of like how she just said I'm gonna 769 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 7: strip and I'm gonna do whatever. 770 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 4: I want because I said, oh, really, okay, I'll give 771 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 4: you no on me. 772 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 11: I mean so yes, my god, regardless idiot idiot, Oh yeah, regardless. 773 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 6: Conversation that you're done. While you were overseas, you come 774 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 6: back and you have in your mind maybe if I 775 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 6: could get her to stop stripping, we could maybe make 776 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 6: it work. I get her pregnant, she can stay off 777 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,439 Speaker 6: the pole and stay in the house. 778 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: In your judge, major shape. 779 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 8: Other expenses of having a child. The bottom line of 780 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 8: your owner is, I. 781 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: Have all this kid. 782 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 9: There are things you need to do, regardless, And I 783 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 9: knew he wasn't gonna get a job when he came back. 784 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 7: You asked why we're here for a praternity court. Within 785 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 7: three weeks of us being home, she was pregnant. So 786 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know if it was my devious, 787 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 7: messed up head that got you know, got her pregnant, 788 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 7: or the dude. So that's that's the reason one hundred wow. 789 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 6: Because the truth is, even though you had that plan 790 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 6: in your mind that if I get her pregnant, that 791 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 6: will be a professional hindrance, but he's. 792 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 9: Saying about all the other costs that come along with 793 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 9: that and responsibility, hence why we have three kids. 794 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 6: You were also sleeping with another man during that same 795 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 6: time period, so you didn't. 796 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 8: Know as well. Yes, who could be the father? 797 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 5: Now, mister throhole? 798 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 2: You is she just going raw with all these these guys. 799 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I suspect the fact that it hasn't been 800 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: mentioned means yeah, yikes, bro, twenty other guys. 801 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: At least at least at least we need. 802 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: To find the inverse. I want to see the inverse 803 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: of the scenario where it's like a woman. Let's see, 804 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: what would the woman be? The woman is uh, oh, 805 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: she's like saving endangered puppies or something, and then the 806 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,720 Speaker 1: I is like going around and sleeping with like forty 807 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: women at a time, bron edutating it all. Yeah, would 808 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: be crucified, just like this woman is. 809 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 6: Big your wife to take a lie detector test at 810 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 6: some point, am I correct? 811 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 4: Yes? Man? 812 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 7: Before she came back, I said, look, you know obviously 813 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 7: is a good one. 814 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, either it's. 815 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 5: A three some well deployed my insecurities. 816 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 7: I would like you to take a lot of detective test. 817 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 7: And she kept saying, oh, yeah, that's fine, I'll do it. 818 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 4: You know the big deal. 819 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 7: When it comes closer to to actually doing it, she starts, 820 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 7: you know, getting nervous because you lie in her boice, 821 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 7: she was getting nervous. 822 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 8: We just need communication, She. 823 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 5: Tells me straight out what happened. 824 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 4: She tells me straight out. 825 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 1: We should we should tell that to like like enemies 826 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: of the state that we're interrogating. 827 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, weation just like have a nice cup 828 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 2: of tea and just like talk it over. Yeah, yeah, 829 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: that's the best way to do it. 830 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,240 Speaker 1: No paternity court. Every time. 831 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 7: About the people that she actually cheated on me with 832 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 7: right after our first daughter, she she cheated on me 833 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 7: with a guy when she was going to a cosmetology 834 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 7: school on her way to cosmetology school. She goes to 835 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 7: his house and a little bit before that he was 836 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 7: taking pictures of both of us, and when she went 837 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 7: there to go check the photos, she got a tour 838 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 7: of the house and loo and behold, the tour ended 839 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 7: at the room. 840 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,439 Speaker 6: So the photographer, what else did you find out? 841 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 7: There was a friend of mine that we've been friends 842 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 7: with for a couple of years, and when I went 843 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 7: to a t I think it's either either anual training 844 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,879 Speaker 7: or drill. She was watching TV next to this one 845 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 7: guy and she started falling asleep and next thing you know, 846 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 7: he rolled over on her and she thought it was mine. 847 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 6: In sad sex with him mistaken identity. 848 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 5: I guess he. 849 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 9: Comes down to the point where I did make yes. 850 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 6: But you sis, that's not one mistake. 851 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 8: Controlling. 852 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,919 Speaker 9: He's verbally abusive, emotionally. He trades my daughter differently than 853 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 9: the other. 854 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 2: Of course he does because he thinks it's not his 855 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 2: child because you slept with like twenty other days. Brow 856 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 2: Also the way she goes oh, he's like verbally blah 857 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 2: blah blah, like stop yo, stop, man is holding back 858 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:11,919 Speaker 2: wow girl. 859 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 5: Well, because he. 860 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 6: Said he doubts that he may or may not be 861 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 6: her father. Do you think honestly that he is the 862 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 6: father of Lilliana? 863 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 8: It could be a fifty to fifty chance. 864 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 5: Honestly, anybody got a quarter. 865 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 6: Do you understand that I like that for any person 866 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 6: that that would be really hard to accept. There is 867 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 6: a part of me that listens to you both talk 868 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 6: and sees that one, if not both of you maybe 869 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 6: still wants to make this work. 870 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 1: Are you too no self respect? 871 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 6: Trying to see if you could save No. 872 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: What are you doing now? Don't do it? 873 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 6: She answered, very affirmatively quickly. How about you, mister thrill 874 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 6: kill you? 875 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 4: I would say yes, but. 876 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 7: I've never even putting the shoes to where I would 877 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 7: have to my kid. Or you don't mean there are 878 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 7: still a baby involved. I mean you can't just I'm 879 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 7: not going to take it out on her, even if 880 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 7: it's not mine, Even if it's not mine. No, the 881 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 7: one of them to take it out on isn't hers. 882 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 7: It's the one in the pink shirt. 883 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 1: Congratulations on everything. Nets to be clear here, there's you 884 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: slept with twenty men, one. 885 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 6: Baby in question as it relates to the paternity, but 886 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 6: you all still have two additions together. 887 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: That's the crazy because actually, so. 888 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 6: These results are going to affect in some way this 889 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 6: family positively or negatively. 890 00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 5: Yes, ma'am, all right, it's time for the rest. 891 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 2: I want it to be their kids. The family doesn't 892 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 2: get screwed up. Oh god, dude, I'm so nervous. 893 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: Nuts. Oh no, they really draw it out. It's the 894 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: kid on the freaking screen. These kids there the whole time. 895 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 6: Our results today were prepared by DNA Diagnostics shut out. 896 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 10: In the case of Throw versus Throw. 897 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 1: Killed, Oh god, fuck. 898 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 6: Do you want to watch the court on TV? 899 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 10: Go to Paternity Court TV to find your local listings. 900 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 10: In the case of Bill versus Throw killed pertaining to 901 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 10: one year old Liliana. 902 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, oh that kid. Oh you know, this chick 903 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: is crazy? Oh tell us you? Oh are Liliana spob 904 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know I feel good about that. 905 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel it. I feel good 906 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 1: about that instantly emotional. Is that relief or is that 907 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: that's good? Because now the family sits together. 908 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 8: I mean it's all together. 909 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 9: I'm happy because I know she's his, So I would 910 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 9: like to work on everything. 911 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 4: Man, There's there's a reason why. 912 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 7: Because since the day it's happened since February twenty eleven 913 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 7: to be exactly when I found out. 914 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: This is while ago. 915 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 7: There has not been a day that's gone by that 916 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 7: I haven't let her not relive the mistakes she made period. 917 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 6: I appreciate your honesty. You were owning up to the 918 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 6: fact that you would not let the mistake go. You 919 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 6: threw it up in her face over and over and 920 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 6: two years two years. 921 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 8: They say no other person would have stayed likewise. 922 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, tell you both. 923 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 4: It's like we're stuck with each other. 924 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 1: That's out of a movie. Wow, that's cute. 925 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 2: Bro. 926 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 6: About this news is that the doubt, the fear associated 927 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 6: with it. 928 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 1: Is gone now, you know, and now they can have 929 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: a happy family. 930 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 7: Ever that I actually kind of disowned her and wow, 931 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 7: if she came around me, I called her JB other 932 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 7: person's baby. Wow, Now that I know that she's not, 933 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 7: you know, it's uh, it's good to know. 934 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 6: You know now that you are her father, and you've 935 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 6: got a lot of making up to do. Okay, this 936 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 6: marriage is the both of yours together. 937 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: Marriage have to honor it co parents both have to 938 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,439 Speaker 1: not marriage. And I think they're gonna keep They're gonna 939 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:24,399 Speaker 1: keep married. I'm actually okay with that. Oh god, wow, 940 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: that's my daughter now. 941 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 4: And there's no wall of dividing. 942 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: See their marriage. No, no, it's all happy. We're gonna 943 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: have to talk about this, okay, okay, okay, so. 944 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 4: Yo. 945 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: So he so here's the thing. So here's my thing. Right, 946 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: I'm also gonna take this of a maniac. So my 947 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: thing is, yes, he like, you know, he made her 948 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: like relive the mistake or whatever of like you know, 949 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: potentially having this kid that's not but she still cheated 950 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: on him twenty times or whatever. So my thing is, like, 951 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,720 Speaker 1: it's even that aside, there's still so many other issues 952 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: that like I don't think. 953 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't feel like she's truthful enough to be 954 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 2: in a marriage that is like there's no founder, Yeah, 955 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 2: there's no foundation. And like I do commend him. 956 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 1: I do commend him for apologizing for the fact that 957 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: he like held that over her head. It's like, oh, 958 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: this isn't my child, this is my child. Oh fair, 959 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: But to be like, okay, you know now you have 960 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 1: to like step up and blah bl Blah's like no, no, no, 961 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: he apologized. He's owning it, and he should continue to 962 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 1: do that. But she's still cheated on him twenty times 963 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 1: and that does not make a good foundation. Further, like 964 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: they should enter co parents at all. So I think 965 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: our judgment. Get divorced, but co parent those kids to adulthood. 966 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah,