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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam, this is John, and we are

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Speaker 3: My father slept with my wife and got her pregnant.

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Speaker 4: That's my wife.

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Speaker 3: I had a crap show birthday with a few close

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Speaker 3: friends at my own house. At the end of the party,

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Speaker 3: after everyone left, my dad told me that he needed

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Speaker 3: to confess something that I was that was unliving him inside.

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Speaker 3: I said, sure. By the way, this comes from a

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Speaker 3: user throwaway. Dad is a pos and if you want

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Speaker 3: Okay Storytime supper at it. So he first started off

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Speaker 3: saying that he did a lot of wrong to me

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Speaker 3: and my wife. He hoped that I could forgive him.

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Speaker 3: I was confused to what he was talking about. I

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Speaker 3: asked what he did that he needed my forgiveness. He

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Speaker 3: said to me that when I was on a business trip,

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Speaker 3: he invited my wife. Hmm. My wife and dad got

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Speaker 3: together one day and they ended up doing the thing

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Speaker 3: that led to my wife carrying his baby.

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Speaker 5: This is gonna be really confusing.

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Speaker 3: I just responded, wtf is this a joke. He told

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Speaker 3: me that he was being serious and not lying to me.

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Speaker 3: I still couldn't believe what I was hearing. He kept

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Speaker 3: going on and on saying that the baby didn't survive,

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Speaker 3: and I couldn't bear to hear it, so I just

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Speaker 3: said stop the bs and told him to leave my house.

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Speaker 3: I physically pushed him out of my house and I

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Speaker 3: went directly to my bedroom. My wife wasn't at my

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Speaker 3: birthday party at all, as she was hanging out with

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Speaker 3: her girls. We were planning to go out for a

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Speaker 3: date night later, but it's not going to happen. My

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Speaker 3: wife doesn't know that my dad confessed to me about

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Speaker 3: their affair. I don't know what I'm going to do.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how I'm gonna look at my wife

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Speaker 3: and ask if this was true or not. After some time,

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Speaker 3: I went downstairs again to check the front door, and

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Speaker 3: my dad was still waiting in his car. He was

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Speaker 3: just staring at the steering wheel, crying. I really wanted

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Speaker 3: him to go away. Wanted to say something, but couldn't

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Speaker 3: because I didn't trust myself to not do something cruel.

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Speaker 3: My wife still hasn't come home yet. Thanks pos Dad

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Speaker 3: for giving me the best birthday gift ever. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: and we have an update. But Angie, yikes, man, yike's

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Speaker 3: on a bike.

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Speaker 5: Hikes on bikes for real? I just peed in my

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Speaker 5: pants to be right in my pants. Oh my god,

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Speaker 5: I that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: That's I'm speechless.

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Speaker 5: I loved speechless because because wow, so is this child born?

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Speaker 3: Yet? Supposedly again, the child was. It didn't make it?

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Speaker 3: Oh I see? Okay, Well I don't know if the

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Speaker 3: child was. Most likely the child was terminated. I maybe

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Speaker 3: we'll get more information. But it seems like he didn't

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Speaker 4: Okay, so she just did it.

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Speaker 2: We have an update.

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Speaker 3: I went to my female neighbor's house. An hour later

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Speaker 3: or so. My wife kept calling me. She called me

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Speaker 3: three times, but I ignored her. On her fourth call,

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Speaker 3: I did. She stopped crying, but she was still so

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Speaker 3: distressed from her voice. She asked how I was doing

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Speaker 3: I said yes. Then she said that she indeed was

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Speaker 3: together with my dad when I was on the business trip.

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Speaker 3: She said that one day he invited her over, so

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Speaker 3: she went to his place. Don't give him details. At

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Speaker 3: the time, my wife was unemployed and looking for jobs.

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Speaker 3: She was already stressed from not having any income and

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Speaker 3: for long periods because you were making money for both

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Speaker 3: of you. My dad had lost his wife at the time,

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Speaker 3: which made him lonely too. My grandfather had his own

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Speaker 3: He passed away too. During that time my dad was

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Speaker 6: Because someone's got to put the wood in.

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Speaker 3: What's wrong with you?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 3: So this welcome back, Riley is still sick.

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Speaker 5: As you can see, so many issues, so many layers

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Speaker 4: My goodness, my.

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Speaker 3: Goodness, that's how everything happened. I really was speechless when

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Speaker 3: she told me these things. I didn't know how to react.

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Speaker 3: I would hope so. But I thanked her for telling

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Speaker 3: her a side of the story and said that I'll

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Speaker 3: get back to her later. I hung up. We recorded

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Speaker 3: the whole telephone call. My neighbor said that I should

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Speaker 3: send a message to my dad confirming my wife's side

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Speaker 3: of the story. That's what I did, and I asked

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Speaker 3: He said yes. I took a screenshot of our text exchange.

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Speaker 3: Now that the truth has come out, I feel better,

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Speaker 3: but it has raised more questions, like why sleep with

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Speaker 3: my dad just to get a job, Why sleep with

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Speaker 3: my wife instead of an escort to get rid of

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Speaker 3: your loneliness? None of their reasons excuse their evil act

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Speaker 3: of betrayal and infidelity towards me. Once my dad confirmed everything,

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Speaker 3: my neighbor and I went to my house and told

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Speaker 3: my dad to come over. Had the talk. Finally, they

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Speaker 3: said that this happened on a weekend and they spent

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Speaker 3: the whole weekend together constantly having spicy sleep without any protection. Oh,

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Speaker 3: oh gosh, you're just putting salt in the Wombase.

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Speaker 5: Need to know, like if she felt pressured to do

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Speaker 5: any of this stuff, you know it's very possible that

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Speaker 7: If she liked it well or if it was better yeah,

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Speaker 7: you know, like like oh.

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Speaker 8: The positions they had, you know all this, She's like, wow,

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Speaker 8: you do look like op but like hotter hotter, you

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Speaker 8: have a silver fox thing going.

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Speaker 4: Yeh yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, well, good to know that my husband

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Speaker 5: will look like that in about twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was just on that weekend. That makes

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Speaker 3: it so much better. After that, they never had an

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Speaker 3: intimate connection. Ah cool sleep exclaim.

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Speaker 2: Thanks late, great for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 3: I asked my wife if she slept with anyone else,

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Speaker 3: and she said no. Regarding our kids, I requested my

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Speaker 3: dad to order three DNA tests for each of us

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Speaker 3: to confirm any suspected paternity. My kids don't have to

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Speaker 3: take a DNA test because they already did the ancestry

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Speaker 3: test to learn more about our genealogy a few years ago.

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Speaker 3: We didn't, but now that we are in this situation,

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Speaker 3: we're going to do it too. However, my wife was

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Speaker 3: annoyed that I was requesting the DNA test. She got

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Speaker 3: and that I insinuated that those children aren't mine. Well,

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Speaker 3: I wonder why I'm so disappointed in you for doing that?

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Speaker 5: You know, how dare you think that just because I

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Speaker 5: slept at your dad on this weekend that you know about?

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Speaker 5: How dare you think that I did it again another time?

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Speaker 3: Dare When my wife told me not to request the

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Speaker 3: DNA test, my neighbor said, you have to do the

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Speaker 3: DNA test. And of course he doesn't trust you anymore.

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Speaker 3: And if you have nothing to hide, why are you

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Speaker 3: so against the DNA test?

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Speaker 6: Question? Exactly? Why is his neighbors so involved.

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Speaker 4: During that too? They're probably just friends with their neighbors.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they're probably friends with a neighbor.

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Speaker 7: Dude, he's in the tea here, man, he's just getting out.

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Speaker 7: He got the entire thing, like, hey, happy birthday. What'd

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Speaker 7: you get today? Devastating news, breaking news, dude.

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Speaker 3: My wife responded, don't poke your nose into this. This

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Speaker 3: is between me and my husband. My name then said

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Speaker 3: to my wife, unlike you, I don't poke my nose

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Speaker 3: into other men's wieners, let alone my father in law's wiener.

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Speaker 5: That's a hilarious image. I'm just gonna say that someone

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Speaker 5: who used one thing poking your nose in a wiener.

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Speaker 4: That's hilarious.

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Speaker 3: My wife couldn't say anything to that. She reluctantly agreed

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Speaker 3: in front of all of us. My dad once again

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Speaker 3: told me how remorseful he was. He kept apologizing over

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Speaker 3: crying again, and I got pissed again. I told him

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Speaker 3: I never expected this from the both of you. I

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Speaker 3: so cheap that she literally sold her body for spicy

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Speaker 3: at the expense of destroying our family.

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Speaker 6: Oh dude, I forgot about the job thing. I have

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Speaker 6: not oh my job yikes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely I still need to know, because it's

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Speaker 5: very common for this happened, and for women to just

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Speaker 5: obviously feel like pressured for this.

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Speaker 6: With their father in laws.

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Speaker 5: Whoever, yeah, oh, okay, with a power struggle exactly, like

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Speaker 5: to get a job. That's a very common thing. Absolutely crappy,

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Speaker 5: crappy behavior. Not to just do that with Opie's wife,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, scratching my head. She could have just asked him

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Speaker 5: We're related now, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I asked her if my dad, the job and our

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Speaker 3: been more patient in getting a job she liked. But

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Speaker 3: she then confessed to me that she voluntarily left his

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Speaker 3: order to get that job. I asked my dad why

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Speaker 3: he confessed now, and asked my wife why she kept

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Speaker 3: me that she didn't want to ruin our relationship and

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Speaker 3: that she feared that she'd lose me. I said to

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Speaker 3: then our relationship could have been saved. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but after a lifetime of our entire marriage built on lies,

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Speaker 3: she brought this upon herself and that her fear is

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Speaker 3: now coming true. As for my dad, I told him

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Speaker 3: to live with the guilt of breaking our family for

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Speaker 3: never get our family back. I told them that it

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Speaker 3: was so clear how they were passing away to meet

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Speaker 3: each other's pants, and finally they can have each other.

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Speaker 3: My neighbors said to them again, neighbor knows the neighbor.

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Speaker 3: The neighbor says, you guys deserve each other and f

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Speaker 3: yourselves to rotten hell. You guys are the worst monsters

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Speaker 3: Funny, Honestly, the neighbor tells it how he sees it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she got caught. I quietly said to myself

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Speaker 10: Dude, Christmas is thanksgivings from now on eventually, crazy.

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Speaker 3: Briley's Back, Priley's Back, Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 6: Always locked to my room for a day.

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Speaker 3: Now the question is are those kids mine, my father's

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Speaker 6: His account is suspended. I can't check to see if

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, yep, good dolly, miss Molly.

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Speaker 6: It's a villain arc.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my mother in law isolated us from the family,

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Speaker 3: My father in law is quite wealthy. These bids on

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Speaker 3: That is until I kept hitting stone wall after stone wall.

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Speaker 3: Because they wouldn't engage back. They would leave the pool

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Speaker 3: Now we're onto the fallout.

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Speaker 3: feel the need to apologize. You don't need to. There's

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Speaker 3: no reason for you to apologize.

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Speaker 2: So pee.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: If you're not sorry, yeah.

443
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Speaker 3: So gonna be sorry for exactly. I believe they're going

444
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Speaker 3: to take the vacation opportunity for my children. But if

445
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Speaker 3: that's what they choose to do, then f it. I

446
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Speaker 3: think it's just all power. Again, we have an update, Yeah,

447
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Speaker 3: but I think it's just all just stemming from power

448
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Speaker 3: and just pompous like, oh, we're the steps and yeah,

449
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Speaker 3: we get to do this, we have control, and like

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Speaker 3: we we deserve more respect, we do this more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Exactly.

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Speaker 5: If it's not about race, then it's definitely about family,

453
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Speaker 5: hierarchy and like all of that stuff. They're definitely not

454
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Speaker 5: including these people into their family at all.

455
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Speaker 3: And they're kind of making it blatantly clear. Oh yeah,

456
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Speaker 3: we do have an update. I requested that my husband

457
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Speaker 3: write a letter to his dad and stepmother in law

458
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Speaker 3: instead of me. He will also include a thank you card.

459
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Speaker 3: I have asked him to include how he feels about

460
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Speaker 3: not only how I was treated, but how his family

461
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Speaker 3: has been treated us.

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Speaker 5: I think she's gonna be like, well, what, because I

463
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Speaker 5: have done this and this and this for all of

464
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Speaker 5: you people I invited you over. Yeah, even though she did,

465
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Speaker 5: and she's gonna just play the victim in the man

466
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Speaker 5: apologies and not change and then they'll have to go

467
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Speaker 5: low contact or no contact.

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Speaker 3: But let's go ahead and finish up the story. I

469
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Speaker 3: also asked him to address the fact that he chooses

470
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Speaker 3: not to write thank you cards. I want the letter

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Speaker 3: to be in his voice and it will show that

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Speaker 3: we're a united front if he writes it. People often

473
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Speaker 3: assume that I am the radical one and my husband

474
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Speaker 3: is the subdued one being led around. He just shares

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Speaker 3: his actual feelings flash opinions with a select few. I

476
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Speaker 3: do believe the steps are their discriminatory and I guess

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Speaker 3: it's very odd. Stepmother in law grew up with a

478
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Speaker 3: mammy and keeps mammy's memorabilia. He hides it when I'm over,

479
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: But I was warned. What does that mean? This dynamic

480
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 3: has also been consistent since his dad and stepmom became official.

481
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Speaker 3: I think it is a double whammy of racist and habit.

482
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Speaker 3: This has been the dynamic for two decades. Who am

483
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Speaker 3: I to refuse to engage type of reaction?

484
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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so h. A mammy is someone who did

485
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Speaker 5: h domestic work among nursing children at the fictionized man

486
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Speaker 5: or fictionalized mammy character is often visualized as a dark

487
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Speaker 5: skinned woman with a motherly personality. It's it's a stereotype basically,

488
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Speaker 5: it's an old stereotype of like yeah, I don't know

489
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Speaker 5: very like old culture when they did blackface and it

490
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Speaker 5: was okay by the public.

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Speaker 3: The fact that one you were warned about this, this memorabilia,

492
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Speaker 3: and she keeps it, and then when you come around,

493
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Speaker 3: she hides it. She knows, she knows, she knows, and

494
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Speaker 3: she doesn't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, if that's something that you feel the need

496
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Speaker 5: to hide for racism.

497
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Speaker 3: Reasons, why would you keep it at all?

498
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Speaker 5: Like if if it's some if it's a you know,

499
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Speaker 5: a grandmother's thing that was passed down, maybe look for

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Speaker 5: something else that reminds you of your grandma.

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Speaker 3: We we nailed it on the head. It seems like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it's both the hierarchy of the family yeah and blaytant.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but that's the story. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just don't deal with these people now. They're not

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Speaker 3: worth your time. Yeah. That's very disappointing and that just sucks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because you don't want your kids around that too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: reent free. She tried to pay, but I knew she

527
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Speaker 9: had a lot of debt trying to pay for UNI,

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Speaker 9: so I told her no and to spend her money

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Speaker 9: freeing herself from her debt. She was so thankful for this,

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Speaker 9: and I loved her living with me. We never thought

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Speaker 9: about anything. Both of us have the same cleaning habits

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Speaker 9: and TV interests, so there's never any arguments over the

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Speaker 9: remote or who has to take out the bands. Tonight,

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Speaker 9: we were out at a super fancy restaurant in London,

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Speaker 9: as Mary had finally paid off the last of her debt,

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Speaker 9: secured herself an amazing promotion at her job, and also

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Speaker 9: finally passed her driving test. All these achievements in the

538
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Speaker 9: same month were more than deserving of an award, so

539
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Speaker 9: we splashed out. It was me, Mary, four of her

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Speaker 9: work friends, and two friends we've known since UNI. It

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Speaker 9: was a great night until I handed Mary a card

542
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Speaker 9: saying how amazing she is and how lucky I am

543
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Speaker 9: to have her as my best friend, with quite a

544
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Speaker 9: bit of cash inside to put towards her first card.

545
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Speaker 9: She started crying and thanking me, and we hugged for

546
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Speaker 9: a long time. When she pulled away, I told her

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Speaker 9: I was so proud of her for kicking life in

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Speaker 9: the butt, becoming successful, and showing her dad that his

549
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Speaker 9: wiener headed ways. I did keep her down after how

550
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Speaker 9: she struggled through UNI, pushing pennies together and working crap jobs.

551
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Speaker 9: Seeing her in her dream career and being such an

552
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Speaker 9: accomplished woman is absolutely inspiring to me.

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Speaker 4: She looked mad and said, please, don't do that. You

554
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Speaker 4: know I don't like it when you do that.

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Speaker 9: She never said anything like this to me ever, so

556
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Speaker 9: I have no idea where this was coming from. I

557
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 9: apologized and said that I didn't realize saying these things

558
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Speaker 9: would upset her, as it's never been my intention. She

559
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 9: just scoffed and rolled her eyes, and when I looked

560
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Speaker 9: up at her colleagues, they were all shaking their heads

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Speaker 9: at me and glaring.

562
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Speaker 4: I felt so awkward.

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Speaker 9: I wanted to shrink back in my own skin, and

564
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Speaker 9: I was mortified that I hurt Mary. Mary didn't talk

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Speaker 9: to me for the rest of the night and ignored

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Speaker 9: me at the table, and we split up to head home.

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Speaker 9: None of her colleagues even looked at me as they left.

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Speaker 9: I said sorry to Mary as she was heading into

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Speaker 9: her room to turn in, but she just shrugged me off,

570
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Speaker 9: told me she was tired and that will talk in

571
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Speaker 9: the morning. I'm so anxious that she'll want to move

572
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Speaker 9: out or never talk to me again. I keep going

573
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Speaker 9: over every interaction in my head to see if I

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Speaker 9: had crossed the line in the past, but she never

575
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Speaker 9: gave any indication that I upset her saying these things

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Speaker 9: before all her colleagues messaged me saying I was an

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Speaker 9: a hole for saying those things to her and belittling her.

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Speaker 9: But I never ever meant any of those things like that.

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Speaker 9: This is an update to this post.

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Speaker 4: Hey, everything happened in one day.

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Speaker 9: I'm posting them all below because I didn't get the

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Speaker 9: chance to write these up after everything happened, as my

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Speaker 9: post didn't have a judgment yet. I saw a lot

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Speaker 9: of mixed reactions, but there was also some great advice

585
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Speaker 9: in there about how to approach Mary, so thank you

586
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Speaker 9: for that. I'm afraid that all the well meaning advice

587
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 9: turned out to be for nothing, so I'm sorry about that.

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Speaker 9: Things are time stamped for Offley to show how the

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Speaker 9: day unfolded.

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Speaker 4: Update two. So I'm even more confused than ever right now.

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Speaker 9: After staying up all night and being constantly on the

592
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Speaker 9: verge of tears, I finally heard my roommate moving around

593
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Speaker 9: in the kitchen, so I went to talk to her.

594
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Speaker 9: She acted totally normal and started talking to me about

595
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Speaker 9: some drama at her work, while I just stood there,

596
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 9: kind of unsure about what was happening or what to do.

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Speaker 9: So I apologized again. She looked up at me in

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Speaker 9: confusion and said, why are you sorry. I reminded her

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Speaker 9: of last night and how mad she was. Then she

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Speaker 9: laughed and said it doesn't matter, don't worry about it,

601
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Speaker 9: and then continued making breakfast. I asked if I had

602
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Speaker 9: stepped over a line last night, the money was too much,

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Speaker 9: if I made her feel.

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Speaker 4: Inferior, and she said, nope, We're cool. Doesn't matter.

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Speaker 9: I think everyone just misunderstood the situation and you're taking

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Speaker 9: things to heart a little too much.

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Speaker 4: I hate this person already.

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Speaker 9: I despise this kind of pow kind of people were

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Speaker 9: just like we No, you shouldn't care.

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Speaker 4: You shouldn't care.

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Speaker 9: So I'm not going to explain you, actually you don't

612
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Speaker 9: have to care, even though you feel like you care

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Speaker 9: and like you just want to know what happened. I

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Speaker 9: don't care to tell you, and I don't need to

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Speaker 9: cause I don't care.

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Speaker 11: Other coworkers are bullying your friend, your friends are attacking ope,

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Speaker 11: so you actually do have to clarify this situation.

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Speaker 9: I'm just even more confused than ever. I told her

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Speaker 9: about friends texting me and telling me that what I

620
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Speaker 9: said was belittling and I was an ale, and she

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Speaker 9: just shrug and said they probably misread things and she'll

622
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Speaker 9: talk to them.

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Speaker 4: But I'm just so winded.

624
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Speaker 9: I'm so tired because I haven't slept because I thought

625
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Speaker 9: she hated me, that I had hurt her, and she'd

626
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Speaker 9: never speak to me again. But she's fine, like she's

627
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Speaker 9: completely normal and just chatting with me as if last

628
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Speaker 9: night never happened. But I'm just so confused after seeing

629
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Speaker 9: so many you're the A hole comments. I thought I'd

630
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Speaker 9: really crossed a line this time, but she's not phased

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Speaker 9: at all. She seemed so upset and ignored me for

632
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Speaker 9: the rest of that night, and her coworkers treated me

633
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Speaker 9: like a criminal. But everything's okay. I guess I don't

634
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Speaker 9: know anymore. I'm tired and I'm going to sleep, but

635
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 9: things are still unresolved. I'm going to talk to her

636
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Speaker 9: about it when she comes back from work today because

637
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 9: her reaction still really bothers me.

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Speaker 4: And here we go.

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Speaker 9: Ten am, I got a call from one of the

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Speaker 9: UNI friends who was at dinner last night and we

641
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Speaker 9: had a chat. She asked me if everything was okay

642
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Speaker 9: between me and Mary, as she said she'd never seen

643
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Speaker 9: Mary snap at me like that until last night. I

644
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Speaker 9: filled her in on everything that we'd talked about and

645
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Speaker 9: how confused I was as well. She reaffirmed many of

646
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Speaker 9: my feelings about this being very out of character for Mary,

647
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Speaker 9: as she had also congratulated Mary and even said similar things,

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Speaker 9: as well as given her a bit of money in

649
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Speaker 9: a card along with an expensive gift, as did many others.

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Speaker 9: After talking to my friend, I've decided that I need

651
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 9: to have a long sit down with Mary the clear

652
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 9: things up, and it's not only me who's confused by

653
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 9: her behavior. Both the UNI friends are coming around later

654
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Speaker 9: to have a chat. Since now we're honestly quite concerned

655
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Speaker 9: about her. Her friends have not let up on their

656
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 9: texts to me, so I don't think she's spoken to them.

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Speaker 9: One said, I couldn't try and sweep this under the rug,

658
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Speaker 9: which is like, what are we talking about?

659
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 11: No, at this point, because the texts have not stopped,

660
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 11: i'd go to your friend and say, hey, your friends

661
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 11: are harassing me.

662
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 4: This needs to stop right now.

663
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm thinking of blocking all of them as they

664
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 9: just won't leave me alone.

665
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 11: Go ahead, you don't know them, presumably, I mean they're

666
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 11: her coworkers.

667
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: Block all of them. Yeah, and then out of a conversation.

668
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 9: With their Third update, this is not an update I

669
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 9: expected to make in a million years. Scrap has really

670
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 9: hit the fan and went sideways in a way I

671
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 9: never imagined. I'm confused, part broken, and really pissed off.

672
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 9: So long story short, it's all an effing lie.

673
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: Which part which part? Let's find out she's not even

674
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 4: my roommate.

675
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 9: One redditor said to me that my friend might have

676
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 9: said something to Mary's work colleagues about me that made

677
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 9: them not like me. I talked to both of them

678
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 9: when they came around in the afternoon, and they both

679
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 9: denied any of that. The one I had spoken to

680
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 9: earlier on the phone, Claire said she'd called one of

681
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 9: the work colleagues that she knows slightly well. In order

682
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 9: to clear things up, let's call the colleague, Jane. Jane

683
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 9: turned up at the flat and instantly looked pissed. I

684
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 9: almost wanted to hide behind the kitchen counter when she

685
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 9: came in, glaring daggers at me. We all sat down

686
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 9: and I let Jane know that I'd spoken to Mary

687
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 9: about last night and that she was fine, but I

688
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 9: was still confused. Jane then laughed and said, oh, don't

689
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 9: try that crap with me. You can't just pretend now

690
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 9: that you've been exposed in public.

691
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: The three of us.

692
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 9: Looked at her without saying a word, as we were

693
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 9: all confused now. Claire asked her what she meant, and

694
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 9: Jane said that she knew how I really treated Mary.

695
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 4: We both asked her to elaborate, and she.

696
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 9: Stood up and went on this tirade about how I

697
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 9: apparently regularly abuse and belittle Mary, then intimidate her into

698
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 9: saying nothing of it, and put on a smile for others.

699
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 9: I wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry at this point.

700
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 9: She then showed me her text with Mary, where Mary

701
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 9: wrote to her in distress about being locked in her

702
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 9: room because I was having a meltdown about her making

703
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 9: friends at work, something.

704
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 4: That never happened.

705
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 9: Claire and my other friend took the phone and looked

706
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 9: through the messages as well, and I had to stop

707
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 9: reading them as they all said stuff about how Mary

708
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 9: was afraid of me, and that I drapped her here

709
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 9: and was extorting rent out of her. It all just

710
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 9: leaves me numb inside. Eventually, Claire got to a point

711
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 9: where Mary said I'd canceled her twenty first birthday at

712
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 9: UNI and told her she wasn't allowed to go out.

713
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 9: The thing is, Claire and my other friend were at

714
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 9: Mary's twenty first birthday, in which I'd put over five

715
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 9: hundred pounds towards to have a themed Great Gatsby Night

716
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 9: that she'd always wanted, which in the messages she was

717
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 9: claiming never happened. She went over a lot of the

718
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 9: stuff in the messages and realized that Mary had been

719
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 9: spreading lies about me to all of her colleague about

720
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 9: how I was harmful and she couldn't move out because

721
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 9: I was charging her so much rent money. This absolutely

722
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 9: Mary was like a sister to me through our UNI years,

723
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 9: and I can't fathom why she'd say any of these things.

724
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 9: It took a long time, but after Claire, my friend,

725
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 9: went over all the accusations with Jane, and I pulled

726
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 9: up my bank details to show that Mary never makes

727
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 9: a single payment to me except for her half of

728
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 9: the bills. She seemed to cool down and settled into

729
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 9: the same confusion we.

730
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 4: Were all feeling.

731
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 9: She let us know that Mary told all of her

732
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 9: colleagues the story, and that the reason they were mad

733
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 9: at me is because Mary said I like to use

734
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 9: a manipulation tactic where I pretend to support her through

735
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 9: everything but use her past against her whenever we're in private.

736
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 9: They all thought that's what I had been doing last night.

737
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 9: They thought everything I said was meant to be a

738
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 9: backhanded compliment. Honestly, I'm so just kind of get.

739
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 4: About everything.

740
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 9: I can't even put into words, the hurt and betrayal.

741
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 9: I feel that she has spread these lines about me,

742
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 9: and for what reason, what benefit? I could never lift

743
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 9: a single finger to hurt her, but she tells everyone

744
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 9: her work that I isolate her from the world. Claire

745
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 9: had to calm me down, as I couldn't stop crying

746
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 9: no matter what I did.

747
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 4: For ages. It was quite embarrassing, but I just couldn't

748
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 4: do anything else.

749
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 9: Now I'm a little more level headed, but still mad,

750
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 9: but not crying anything. I don't even want to look

751
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 9: at Mary again.

752
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 4: Understand yeah, let alone have her be your roommate. My

753
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 4: friends have told me not to make hasty decisions.

754
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 9: Even Claire said she was disgusted by the things Mary

755
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 9: was saying about me in the text when everyone knows

756
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 9: them not to be true. I know that I probably

757
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 9: won't be able to clear my name with her colleagues,

758
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 9: but I don't really care about that. I just want

759
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 9: to know why Mary has said these things about me.

760
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 9: Jane went quiet by the end of our discussion and

761
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 9: left without saying much, so I don't know what that

762
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 9: means for me in her eyes. My two friends are

763
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 9: staying with me for the rest of the day until

764
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 9: Mary comes home. We've all got a lot of questions

765
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 9: for her to answer. And there is a fourth update here.

766
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 9: I have booted Mary out of the flat. She threw

767
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 9: away years of friendship for sympathy points with her colleagues,

768
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 9: and I still cannot understand why. When she got home

769
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 9: and saw the three of us watching television, she got

770
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 9: and said she'd make popcorn.

771
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 4: Claire took lead and told her to sit down.

772
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 9: She looked confused, but complied. Clair led the whole conversation.

773
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 9: I didn't really know what to say to Mary at all,

774
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 9: and could barely make eye contact with her. Claire told

775
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 9: her that Jane had been round and yelled at me

776
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 9: for being an abuser and a bully, and asked her

777
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 9: why she'd say those things. Mary acted confused and said

778
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 9: that it must all just be a miscommunication, that Jane

779
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 9: just twists things sometimes and she must have misunderstood the

780
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 9: stuff she'd said. Lair asked about the text messages and

781
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 9: started mentioning each event that Mary had cried to Jane

782
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 9: about me being an awful person. Jane went quiet and

783
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 9: then tried to say it was a work joke, but

784
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 9: Claire wasn't having any of it. She pushed harder about

785
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 9: all of this, and eventually Mary broke. She started crying

786
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 9: and telling us that she never meant any of it,

787
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 9: that it was a stupid thing and it shouldn't matter

788
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 9: that she loved me with everything she had, and it

789
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 9: was just a stupid story that went too far. She

790
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 9: started begging me for forgiveness, but I I was just

791
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 9: so tired and I still am. I looked her in

792
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 9: the eyes for the first time and told her she

793
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 9: had a week to find a place and move out,

794
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 9: And then she really started balling her eyes out and

795
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 9: begging me to let her stay. That she didn't think

796
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 9: it would matter because I don't work with them, But

797
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 9: I told.

798
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 4: Her I was not having that kind of bs in

799
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 4: my life.

800
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 9: I then said, so, do you just make up lies

801
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 9: about everyone in your life? Is any of it real?

802
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 9: Then she went really quiet, completely silent. At that point,

803
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 9: I didn't want to believe it, but the way she

804
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 9: was looking at me and the lies she'd made up

805
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 9: about me abusing her, had me questioning everything she'd ever

806
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 9: told me when we were at UNI together.

807
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 11: That's what I'm saying, Yes, that's what I'm saying.

808
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 9: Yes about any abuse in the home, about her being

809
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 9: homeless from sixteen until they divorced. I then told her

810
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 9: to get her mom on the phone, and she panicked

811
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 9: and begged me not to lie.

812
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 4: Which lie. It is time to literally tear down this

813
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 4: entire life of lies.

814
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 11: Built everything she's said to you.

815
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 9: She needs to feel the heat and have serious consequences.

816
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 9: Claire then realized where I was going with this and

817
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 9: asked her if everything we've ever been told about her

818
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 9: dad had been true, and she cracked and said she

819
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 9: may have embellished.

820
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 6: A few things.

821
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 9: Wow, I am effing fuming at this point. Who that

822
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 9: f makes up this kind of twisted crap for what

823
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 9: benefit sympathy? I can't even write everything that was said,

824
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 9: as it just resorted into a screaming match between all

825
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 9: four of us. We learned that Mary's tragic life story

826
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 9: had been nothing but a concoction to gain sympathy from others.

827
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 9: Her parents are divorced, but there was no abuse involved.

828
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 9: They just fell out of love and split. I had

829
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 9: to learn this by calling her mother myself later on

830
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 9: to get clarity. I'd never said a word to her

831
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 9: mom about anything in the past because Mary had warned

832
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 9: me against it. She said I could always be open

833
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 9: with her about everything as she wasn't ashamed, but her

834
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 9: mom was sensitive didn't want to talk about it. So

835
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 9: it turns out my best friend is a master manipulator

836
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 9: and probably always has been. I'm so tired and exhausted

837
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 9: of this whole nightmare. This will be my last update

838
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 9: as I am done. I came here seeking help and

839
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 9: advice to find a way to mend a mistake I

840
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 9: had made with a trusted friend. But it turns out

841
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 9: that the last seven years have been built on a lie.

842
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 9: I am effing done with Mary with everything. I don't

843
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 9: want to see her again. I know she can afford

844
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 9: her own place, so I don't feel bad about forcing

845
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 9: her out. I don't care what she does now. I

846
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 9: just know that I don't want her around anymore. I

847
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 9: think I'm going to book myself some therapy sessions after

848
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 9: all this crap. It's not a happy update, but it's

849
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 9: the only conclusion I've got. Thank you everyone for all

850
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 9: the advice you gave me over the many updates. I

851
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 9: appreciate all of it. I'm sorry it's not cheerful, but

852
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 9: I just hope I can move on from all of this.

853
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 9: And there's a fifth update, you liar?

854
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 4: What the hey, dude, look at you, fibbin.

855
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 9: I never thought i'd be writing anymore on this post,

856
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 9: but holy crap, did it blow up overnight. I never

857
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 9: expected the amazing responses I got, or the wonderful people

858
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 9: in my messages sharing their stories and wishing me all

859
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 9: the best. It honestly brought me to tears to just

860
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 9: see this flood understanding and empathy appear out of nowhere.

861
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 4: Thank you to everyone who took the time to message

862
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 4: me or comment.

863
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 9: I've read them all, and I am thankful for all

864
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 9: the support I've been given.

865
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 4: I didn't think i'd update any.

866
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 9: Further, but since there's been so much recent interest, I

867
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 9: can give you guys a little conclusion to how everything

868
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 9: fully resolved. I didn't touch read it since my last

869
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 9: update because I needed a lot of time to process

870
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 9: what had happened, and having the place to myself was

871
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 9: strange to adjust to it first, but as it turns out,

872
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 9: it was very necessary to begin the healing process. Mary

873
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 9: moved out the following Saturday of the incident. She spent

874
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 9: the following days after the blow up moping around the

875
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 9: flat and wanting to talk to me, but I refused

876
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 9: and told her I needed space. Her mom came on

877
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 9: the weekend to help her pack up her things as

878
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 9: Mary was going to move back in with her. Her

879
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 9: mom cleared up a lot of the questions I'd had

880
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 9: on my mind. I'd always been told by Mary that

881
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 9: her dad had been harmful, but her mom had loved

882
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 9: him so much she wouldn't leave him because she left

883
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 9: home and was homeless when she was fourteen, sleeping under

884
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 9: benches and train stations just so she didn't have to

885
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 9: be in the house with him. He only moved back

886
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 9: in when her mom finally got the guts to divorce

887
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 9: her dad. This is a story I had believed for

888
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 9: seven years, and it turned out to be completely faith

889
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 9: Not only was Mary never homeless, but her father was

890
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 9: never harmful and.

891
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 4: Loved both her and her mom very much.

892
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 9: The reason I never saw him around was because he'd

893
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 9: moved to Australia to pursue his career, which was the

894
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 9: real reason for the divorce. He loved his family, but

895
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 9: wanted success even more Boo, so he left her Mom

896
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 9: told me that Mary's dad was always inviting her over

897
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 9: for the summer holidays, but Mary never went because she

898
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 9: hates flying.

899
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 11: I don't think you can. I don't know about that.

900
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 11: That's kind of crazy. It divor what to pursue your

901
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 11: career and leaving your child. Yeah, I know, that's why,

902
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 11: I said, bo I said Boo to that.

903
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: That's kind of whack. That's whack.

904
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 11: If we're to believe anything that happened when she was fourteen.

905
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: That's whack super whack.

906
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 9: The day she moved out, I stayed in my room

907
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 9: and just hid away, But she knocked on my door

908
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 9: before she left, and I answered. I still wanted to

909
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 9: say goodbye. She had been my closest friend for so

910
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 9: long that it didn't feel right just letting her fade

911
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 9: out of my life without a sendoff. She asked me

912
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 9: if I wanted the money I gave her for her

913
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 9: new car back, but I said no and told her

914
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 9: to use it instead for therapy.

915
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 4: She cried a lot and tried to.

916
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 9: Hug me, but I kept her at a distance. I

917
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 9: let her know this would be the final time we

918
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 9: would ever see or speak to each other. I just

919
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 9: couldn't be around her anymore with the knowledge of what

920
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 9: she'd done. He left sobbing, and when she was gone,

921
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 9: my little town flat felt suddenly.

922
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 4: Bigger than it ever had been before. It grew ten sizes.

923
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 9: It's been hard adjusting to being alone in this place.

924
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 9: For the first week she was gone, I still expected

925
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 9: to see her in the kitchen every morning or on

926
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 9: the sofa when I got home.

927
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 4: It was unsettling, to say the least.

928
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 9: I had my first therapy appointment last week, and I

929
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 9: think it actually went well. I haven't been to therapy

930
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 9: since I was in school, so I was very nervous

931
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 9: to begin with. But my therapist is a very lovely

932
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 9: lady who helped me understand that Mary's lies were her

933
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 9: own making and I had nothing to do with their creation.

934
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 9: A lot of people said she was probably a compulsive liar,

935
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 9: maybe even a self absorbed person, and she seemed to

936
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 9: agree loosely with that idea from what she'd heard.

937
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 4: And yet another revelation.

938
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 9: I met with Jane for coffee as she'd asked me

939
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 9: to meet up and clear up some details.

940
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 4: He told me she'd been wondering about why Mary would.

941
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 9: Make me the target of her abuse story, and started

942
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 9: asking people in her office about the things Mary had

943
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 9: said about me in the past. One that stood out

944
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 9: was a painter they work in art restoration and distribution,

945
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 9: who used his art as a means of channeling his

946
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 9: traumatic history with his abusive stepmother. Apparently Mary had taken

947
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 9: quite a liking to him, and so she had first

948
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 9: told him about her abuse as.

949
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 4: A way of getting closer to him.

950
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 9: She'd mentioned fancying him in the past, but I didn't

951
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 9: think she'd go to such lengths to create a connection

952
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 9: between them. He'd been furious when he heard the truth

953
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 9: and now doesn't speak to her anymore. Jane told me

954
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 9: not many people do now. They were now all worried

955
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 9: that she'd make up stuff about them and get them

956
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 9: in trouble at work, so they're keeping her at arm's

957
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 9: length as a result. I felt a bit bad when

958
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 9: I heard this, as I know that Mary is having

959
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 9: a miserable time with our friendship group exiling her as well.

960
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 9: Jane apologized to me, but I told her she has

961
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 9: nothing to be sorry about, that this was all Mary,

962
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 9: and that she was only trying to protect what she

963
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 9: thought was a mistreated friend. We left each other on

964
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 9: good terms, but we don't have much in common, so

965
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 9: I doubt we'll be friends in the future. Claire came

966
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 9: to stay with me for a bit, which has helped

967
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 9: with the loneliness a little. It's hard to be alone

968
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 9: after having someone practically attached to your hip with you

969
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 9: for so long. Thank you for you guys as well,

970
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 9: who left such kind messages in the comments, many of

971
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 9: which were very helpful. I am so thankful to all

972
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 9: of you for your words of advice and comfort you've

973
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 9: given me. It's made a crappy situation much better to

974
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 9: know there are people out there who've been through the

975
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 9: same thing and to offer words of encouragement to lost

976
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 9: things like me. Thank you everybody, And that is the end.

977
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 4: Of that story.

978
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: There you go, Good luck, o pie.

979
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 4: How do you find a normal roommate next?

980
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you will. You know, it's a shame that this,

981
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 9: you know, it's just a shame. There's nothing else to say.

982
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 4: But it's a dang Shame's good that you know the truth.

983
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 9: Now and that no, you just said, well, this is insane,

984
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 9: but time to put one foot in front of the other.

985
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 4: My friend was rude to my mother, so I confronted

986
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: him about.

987
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 6: It that my mommy.

988
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 9: About a year ago, I'm moved in with my mom,

989
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 9: who lives in a very touristy destination. Several of my

990
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 9: friends expressed interest in coming for a visit, none.

991
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 4: More than John.

992
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 9: He immediately asked when he could come for a visit,

993
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 9: and continued to ask every time we spoke until I

994
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 9: told him he could visit anytime during this month. By

995
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 9: the way, this comes from user house Guest from the

996
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 9: Lake of Fire and if you want to submit your

997
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 9: own stories, go to the slash Owcayse.

998
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: Storytimes so bad.

999
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 9: When he asked to stay for twelve days, I hesitated,

1000
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 9: but I said yes because A flights are expensive and

1001
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 9: that might have been the cheapest option. And B he

1002
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 9: recently had a family member pass away and that hit

1003
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 9: him very hard, and I wanted to offer what I

1004
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 9: could to help him recover. The trouble started when he

1005
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 9: sent me his itinerary in twelve days had somehow turned

1006
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 9: into fourteen. I didn't say anything because the tickets were

1007
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 9: already booked and I didn't want him to feel unwelcome.

1008
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 9: When he arrived, the weather wasn't good and he was

1009
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 9: a bit MOPy, so I took him to some indoor

1010
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 9: act attractions. He was worried about the weather because he

1011
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 9: wanted to see all the good stuff. However, he hadn't

1012
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 9: done any research and had no idea what the good

1013
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 9: stuff was. I told him that if he knew what

1014
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 9: he had wanted to do, we could make some plans,

1015
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 9: and that he was more than welcome to use our

1016
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 9: neighbor's van.

1017
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: They let us borrow it when they are out of town.

1018
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 9: The next day, I had a car problem, and my

1019
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 9: mom and I ended up spending the most of the

1020
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 9: day getting it fixed. John came with us and was

1021
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 9: grumpy the whole day, but didn't ask us to be

1022
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 9: dropped off.

1023
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 4: Anywhere or to use the van.

1024
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 9: That night, he said he felt like he was wasting time,

1025
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 9: so I asked him to do some research and make

1026
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 9: a less of the things he wants to do. He

1027
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 9: did make a list, and we've been able to accomplish

1028
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 9: some of the things on it. He keeps proclaiming I

1029
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 9: don't care what we do as long as we hit

1030
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 9: everything on my list. The problem with that sentence is

1031
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 9: theo we I don't have a traditional job, but I

1032
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 9: have things I need to do and deadlines to meet.

1033
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 9: He's treating this like we're on on vacation together instead

1034
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 9: of his me doing him a favor by showing him

1035
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 9: a few places and giving him a place to stay.

1036
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 9: I informed him that I would not be joining him

1037
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 9: for the remainder of the big activities on his list,

1038
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 9: and he seemed to take it okay. Yesterday Mom drove

1039
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 9: John and me to another place on his list, but

1040
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 9: on the way home, we realized the van was not

1041
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 9: safe to drive and needed maintenance the next day.

1042
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 4: Bad luck.

1043
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 9: I know. John's response to all that was, well, well,

1044
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 9: I have a car tomorrow. Mom just told him she

1045
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 9: didn't know, and when we discussed it in private later,

1046
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 9: we decided to tell him he should rent a car.

1047
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 9: I had a meeting I had to go to today

1048
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 9: and told him that I would drop him off at

1049
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 9: the rental agency early in the morning on my way.

1050
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 9: He said okay, but didn't try making a reservation until

1051
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 9: this morning. As I was getting ready to go, informed

1052
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 9: me that there was no rental cars available in the

1053
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,479
Speaker 9: entire city and that he'd be staying with my mom

1054
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 9: all day. I've just finished my meeting, but have a

1055
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 9: few other errands to do, and I'm trying to figure

1056
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 9: out what to do with him when I get home.

1057
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 9: In addition to the above issues, these are some of

1058
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 9: the other things that are driving my mom and me crazy.

1059
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 9: Leaving his stuff everywhere, saying he would help with the dishes,

1060
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 9: but then disappearing until someone else starts doing them, leaving

1061
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 9: lights on after I told him multiple times, not correctly

1062
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 9: sorting his recycling after my mom told him multiple times,

1063
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 9: making snarky comments about how we have so many rules

1064
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 9: when we bring up the lights or recycling, asking me

1065
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 9: to cook for him, complaining about a lack of food,

1066
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 9: changing the temperature in the car while someone else is driving,

1067
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 9: putting on religious music in the car, and insisting on

1068
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 9: finishing the song after I told him it makes me uncomfortable,

1069
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 9: saying that I invited him to stay several times, when

1070
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 9: in actuality, he kept asking to stay. John and I

1071
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 9: have known each other for about ten years. He sort

1072
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 9: of mentored me through some difficult periods in my life,

1073
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 9: and I value his friendship dearly. Just booting him out

1074
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 9: of the house is not an option, But Mom and

1075
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 9: I are both stretched to our limits.

1076
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 4: How do my mom and I deal.

1077
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 9: With him and maintain our boundaries space and sanity? Should

1078
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 9: I talk to him about his bad behavior as a whole?

1079
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 9: I think he honestly has no idea that he's being rude.

1080
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 9: He's told me he appreciates my honest and sometimes blunt

1081
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 9: feedback about his dating life. He wants to get married,

1082
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 9: and I worry that his inconsiderate behavior will prevent him

1083
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 9: from having a healthy relationship with a partner. So he's

1084
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 9: about to head out on his own for an overnight trip. Luckily,

1085
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 9: there will only be a couple of days left in

1086
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 9: his trip when he returns, and I will be sitting

1087
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 9: him down to discuss his behavior before he leaves.

1088
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: And there's an update.

1089
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 9: I was gonna say, Yeah, of course you need to

1090
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 9: talk to him John. Where are we thinking, Oh, this

1091
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 9: John is not Johnning? Yeah, he's John is Jonathanning. He's Jonathanning.

1092
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 3: That's for sure.

1093
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 2: All offense meant to all Jonathan's out there. I will

1094
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: fight you. Yeah, It's uh, bro just doesn't get I mean,

1095
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: I guess that there was that one little tidbit at

1096
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: the end where he was like every time I shared it,

1097
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: he was actually grateful for the blunt feedback. Maybe he

1098
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: genuinely doesn't understand, which I think we've all known one

1099
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 2: of those guys at some point where it's like they

1100
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: just maybe they're not malicious, but they just don't get it. Update.

1101
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 9: When I last updated, he was planning to go for

1102
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 9: an overnight trip in a city about one hundred miles away.

1103
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 9: There were no rental cars available, so we let him

1104
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 9: use the van. After we had it fixed, I suggested

1105
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 9: he'd get a hotel.

1106
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 4: However, they had all.

1107
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 6: Been booked up.

1108
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 9: My mom suggested Airbnb, but he claimed not to know

1109
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 9: what it was, which I find hard to believe. But whatever,

1110
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 9: Jonathan ended up going on three separate day trips to

1111
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 9: this city. We were both pretty annoyed that he had

1112
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 9: no qualms about putting that many miles on our cars,

1113
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 9: but at the same time, it was worth it to

1114
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 9: get him out of the house. Today is his last day,

1115
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 9: but his flight is late tonight. This morning he announced

1116
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 9: his intention to take my car to another place about

1117
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 9: fifty miles away. I expressed concern about him driving so

1118
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 9: far and me having to take another long trip to

1119
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 9: take him to the airport, and he said, so what,

1120
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 9: I'll gash up your car. I told him we needed

1121
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 9: to talk and asked him to come outside with me.

1122
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 9: As a few of you suggested, I told him that

1123
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 9: since he has said he appreciates my blunt feedback, I

1124
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 9: was gonna give.

1125
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 4: It to him right now.

1126
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 9: I told him that this was not intended to attack

1127
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 9: orbitate him, but I needed to let him know how

1128
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 9: his behavior made my mom and I feel. I told

1129
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 9: him that it wasn't cool that he extended his trip

1130
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 9: by two days and just assumed I'd be available to

1131
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 9: take him around.

1132
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 4: I told him it was taking advantage to.

1133
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 9: Take those three super long trips in our car, and

1134
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 9: that perhaps if he had planned in advance, he could

1135
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 9: have arranged for accommodations instead of expecting me to be

1136
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 9: his personal tour guide. I told him that every single

1137
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 9: other person who has stayed with us has offered to

1138
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 9: rent a car, and that my mom was offended when

1139
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 9: she told him we had to do maintenance on the van,

1140
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 9: and instead of offering to stay near our house or

1141
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 9: get an uber, he only asked if we would have

1142
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 9: a car to drive. I told him that messing with

1143
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 9: the heater in the car without asking says the only

1144
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 9: thing that matters is my comfort, and I don't care

1145
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 9: about the rest of you.

1146
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 4: That's what I'm sorry.

1147
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 9: I'm on A's side here, but changing the heat settings

1148
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 9: in the car is fundamentally disrespectful.

1149
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 4: I think we're jumping the shark there a little bit.

1150
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 2: I think it's just like annoying, but like it's it's

1151
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: it's I mean, it does kind of show that he's

1152
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 2: just like not thinking about it.

1153
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 10: I think the major context we're missing is how hot

1154
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 10: was it outside?

1155
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 6: And then from that we can see if he was

1156
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 6: the ahle or not?

1157
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the temp?

1158
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 9: At some point, if you don't want the guy driving

1159
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 9: your car, you gotta say nope, nope, you want to

1160
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 9: drive my car another one hundred miles away, nope.

1161
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: Well he's hope he's spelling all of it out. I

1162
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: think it's I think it's good to kind of spell

1163
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: out like, hey, like it is like annoying to have

1164
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: someone just like O'm changing this right. It feels like, Wow,

1165
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: what about us, bro?

1166
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 9: I said, you can stay here, and you have somehow

1167
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 9: interpreted that as me and my mom will be your

1168
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 9: personal concierge.

1169
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 4: That's not this not the accommodation.

1170
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: Would you like a new car, sir? That I don't

1171
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 2: habits in the shop?

1172
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 8: Sir?

1173
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 4: Oh, fetch for you, full fright, post haste.

1174
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: Come on.

1175
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 9: I told him that despite the fact that uh ooh,

1176
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 9: I told him that, despite the fact that he has

1177
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 9: made it a habit to leave lights on and not recycle,

1178
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 9: he needs to break that habit because it is unacceptable

1179
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 9: to not follow the rules when someone opens their home

1180
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 9: to you. I also told him that the thing that

1181
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 9: made me feel the most taken advantage of was when

1182
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 9: he belittled me for having so many rules. I went

1183
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 9: on to tell him that the reason for me telling

1184
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 9: him this was not only for my own sanity, but

1185
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 9: to make him aware of a problem that was going

1186
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 9: to prevent him from ever forming a meaningful and healthy relationship.

1187
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 9: I mentioned in the original post that he desperately wants

1188
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 9: to get married. I told him that if I didn't

1189
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 9: care about him, I would have booted him out long

1190
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 9: ago and never talked to him again, but that I

1191
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 9: decided it was worth it to tell him because I

1192
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 9: thought he would reflect on what I was telling him

1193
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 9: and figure out a way to change his behavior.

1194
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 4: So he listened and didn't make excuses.

1195
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 9: He apologized and said he would think about what I

1196
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 9: told him. He apologized to my mom after we went

1197
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 9: back inside, and they had a little chat about how

1198
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 9: certain things he says rubbed people the wrong way. My

1199
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 9: mom advised him to consider how things he says might

1200
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 9: be interpreted. He called an uber and left several hours

1201
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 9: before the flight. He offered to leave money for his

1202
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 9: use of the cars, but we told him not to.

1203
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 9: After we left, we found it in his room. Anyway, overall,

1204
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 9: I have learned to set boundaries when I have someone

1205
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 9: come and stay. My new rules are no one stays

1206
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 9: longer than a week. Guests have to rent a car.

1207
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 9: If I have to question whether I can handle a

1208
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 9: person for a few days, that person is not invited.

1209
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 4: I will clearly.

1210
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 9: Communicate to guests ahead of time that they will be

1211
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 9: expected to make their own plans and that if I

1212
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 9: am able to, I will join them, but I will

1213
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 9: not be their personal tour guint.

1214
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 6: Hey's John Ogi host.

1215
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to the stories, but a quick

1216
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 2: free minute break of ads from our sponsors. My friend

1217
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: refused to attend my wedding because she thinks it's a scamp.

1218
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 4: Your wedding is literally a pyramid skih.

1219
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 2: Female thirty seven with my best friend Darla, female thirty

1220
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 2: eight have been best friends since we were roughly five

1221
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: years old.

1222
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 3: Wow.

1223
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 2: For some background, we grew up about one block away

1224
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 2: f from each other, and we were thick as thieves immediately.

1225
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from a moist Panda forty

1226
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: one oh nine, and if you want to submit your

1227
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Speaker 2: own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime sub reddit.

1228
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: We both had younger brothers who got along well, and

1229
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: that made spending more time together really convenient for our

1230
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: parents and allowed us to be extremely close. Towards the

1231
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: end of elementary school, her family moved to another neighborhood

1232
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: in a really large and fancy, at least to me

1233
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 2: at the time, house. We remained friends and spent a

1234
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: lot of time together. A couple of years later, my

1235
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 2: family also moved to a different house in a neighborhood

1236
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: closer to her, and while we did not go to

1237
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 2: middle school together, we did attend the same high school

1238
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: for freshman year before I was rezoned to a different

1239
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 2: high school. Throughout high school, we did our own thing,

1240
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 2: but still remained close friends and spent a lot of

1241
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 2: time together. Once we were able to drive and eventually

1242
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 2: got our own cars. We had little to know issues

1243
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: and no arguments that I can ever recall. College was

1244
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 2: also smooth sailing in the friendship departments, and we got

1245
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: together whenever it was possible, but not as often as

1246
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 2: we would have liked, since we were poor college students

1247
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 2: and our school were far apart. Now. After she completed college,

1248
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 2: she moved out of state with her boyfriend now husband.

1249
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: I continued in college for several more years after her

1250
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: finances prevented me from taking a full course load, and

1251
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,959
Speaker 2: then I went to graduate school. Despite the many times

1252
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: throughout our lives where we have not seen each other

1253
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 2: for extended periods of time, we still talked and considered

1254
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 2: each other besties. I can genuinely say and often do

1255
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: that she is one of the most wonderful people I've

1256
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 2: ever met. She's kind, patient, considerate, nursing, funny, smart, and

1257
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: just an absolute angel of a person. Throughout our adult lives,

1258
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: anytime either of us have been struggling with something, we

1259
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: reached out to one another for support and comfort and

1260
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: always received it. From my perspective, it's always been pretty

1261
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: equal in terms of providing support to one another in

1262
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: difficult times. We always have one of those friendships where

1263
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 2: we may not have spoken for six months or more,

1264
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 2: but as soon as we pick up the phone, it's

1265
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: like no time has passed at all. With her living

1266
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 2: out of state, we did not get to see each

1267
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: other often. Usually it's around a holiday when she's already

1268
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: coming back to see her family. I've gone to her

1269
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: state to visit her once. For many years, I was

1270
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 2: living paycheck to paycheck and traveling out of state was

1271
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: financially unaffordable, and I was also working hourly jobs where

1272
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: I simply cannot afford to be off work for more

1273
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 2: than a weekend, as I did not have any paid

1274
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: time off Yay America. When she got married around ten

1275
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: years ago in the state where she currently lives, I

1276
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: was ecstatic for her, but knew that there was absolutely

1277
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,959
Speaker 2: no way I could possibly attend due to the aforementioned

1278
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: financial and job restraints. I was also in college at

1279
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 2: the time, which increased the limit on my ability to

1280
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: take to be away for several more days. She was,

1281
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: of course disappointed that I could not attend, but completely

1282
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 2: understood that if I had the ability, I would have

1283
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 2: been there by her side. That being said, I do

1284
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 2: not believe that this plays a role in our current situation,

1285
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: but wanted to include it for context as well. We

1286
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: have a lot of context now currently. We are both

1287
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: doing pretty solid in our lives. She and her husband

1288
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: bought a house a little over a year ago, and

1289
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: I am thriving in a high paying career with a

1290
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: lot of flexibility and excellent conditions. We still connected over

1291
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: the phone to catch up and of course, for support

1292
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: when it's needed. A few months ago I got engaged

1293
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: and she was happy, super happy. Yes, and very congratulatory

1294
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: when I told her about it. My fiance and I

1295
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: had already begun making plans and we were pretty set

1296
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: on what we wanted to do. I told her all

1297
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: about it and she was very encouraging and positive, no

1298
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 2: hint of any issue. We plan to have a destination

1299
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: wedding in Mexico, as my fiance is from a European country,

1300
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: so his entire family and closest friends all still reside there.

1301
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 6: Gotta be Europe.

1302
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 4: This person just it's all right, we forgive you.

1303
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe Spain. My entire family and closest friends are

1304
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: in the US, so we both figured out that if

1305
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: we had to travel, had to travel, then we might

1306
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: as well have them all travel to an all inclusive

1307
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: resort in paradise where there are fun activities to keep

1308
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: people occupied, loads of food, and free flowing drinks. We

1309
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: chose a very well known European resort chain, which we

1310
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: have visited before and absolutely loved. This resort is also

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00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: extremely budget friendly with different pricing options, because we wanted

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00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: to ensure that it was reasonable for all of our guests.

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00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 2: Once I had told my closest friends and family personally,

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00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: we announced it online and I sent out our bridesmaid

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00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: proposal boxes to Darla. I believe the OG friend and

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00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: my two other close friends. Darla's box specifically asked her

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00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: to be my maid of honor. Around the same time

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00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: we sent out the invites. There were digital invites, so

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00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: RCPs came in pretty quickly from our closest guests. When

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00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: Darla received her proposal box, she sent me a picture

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00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: of her with the items in the box and again

1322
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 2: congratulating me, saying how excited she was about my wedding.

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00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: This was around a week or so after the digital

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00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: invites were sent out. She had still not sent an RSVP.

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00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 2: I'm assuming she maybe overlooked the email or super busy

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00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: with workstuff. I gave her a call to do later,

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00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: and she and I talked for a long time about

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00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: a crisis with work that she had been dealing with,

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00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: which was very complicated. She explained all the ins and outs,

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00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 2: and I offered helpful suggestions and sympathy as it sounded

1331
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: like an absolute nightmare. After this long talk, I asked

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00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: her about the wedding and she mentioned that she had

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01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 2: been drowning at work and simply had not given it

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01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: much attention, but would once things cleared up. She suggested

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01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: I directly email it to her husband, as she typically

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01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 2: manages their social calendar and would be the one to

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01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 2: set up everything surrounding the trip. I sent the email

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01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 2: invite directly to her husband. A day or two after

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01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 2: our call, Darla and I continued texting regularly about my

1340
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: wedding plans and ideas for bridesmaids, dresses, color schemes, and

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01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: all of normal things. She's super responsive and helpful. After

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01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: about two more weeks with no RSVP response, I messaged

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01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: her asking if she had talked with her husband about

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01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: my wedding, as they had not seen an RSVP from her.

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01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 4: Okay, this is what's wrong, Dakota his phone call territory.

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01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 4: Why are we texting?

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01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 9: Phone call well, ringing green, Hello, ringing ring Hello. I

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01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 9: need to talk to you like now. Could you give

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01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 9: me weird vibes? And you would be a very important

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01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 9: part of this wedding.

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01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like she's saying all the things of like

1352
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: oh play, She's helping her plan the wedding everything as

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01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: if she's the main of honor her and literally has

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01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: an RCP to the wedding period.

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01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 9: Yes, hello, honor Hello, I'm calling you.

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01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: No, I have to be indirect and not you know

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01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: what ready Darling's box?

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01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 6: Wait, I'm gonna get you.

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01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 4: What is coming out?

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01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 6: What is this?

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01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: You're gonna be my main of honor.

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01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 6: I'm gonna get you.

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01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 4: What is that? Why is what's Bernie?

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01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 3: Was that?

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01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 4: Okay? I'm gonna Darla just whip that right out of

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01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 4: her box.

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01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: No response for five days. I sent another message, nudging

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01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 2: her with a meme and acquiring her again about whether

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01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: or not she had been able to speak with her husband.

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01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: I called her the next day, no answer. I called

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01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: her again the day after, still no answer. Finally, she

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01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: sent a long text saying that she isn't sure if

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01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: she can come to the wedding because she had an

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01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 2: issue in Mexico years ago where there were some extra

1375
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 2: fees at the airport that they were required to pay

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01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: but had not been made aware of, and now she

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01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: feels like going to Mexico will result in She insinuated

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01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 2: that the resort was a scam and she simply does

1379
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: not trust it and likely will not be persuaded to

1380
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: trust that she won't be scammed. Immediately, I responded, asking

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01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: for more information as I was pretty surprised and confused

1382
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 2: about this coming out of the blue. She explained that

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01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: having to email a hotel contact for pricing seemed shady

1384
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: to her. We got a hotel blocked from the wedding

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01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 2: and offered a bit of offered a bit of a

1386
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: discount from wedding pricing depending on the room you chose.

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01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: She stated that she doesn't believe the hotel is legit

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01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: because they should have complete transparency on the pricing.

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01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 9: What does she think this is like secretly like they're

1390
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 9: all gonna get like kidnapped, missed. She like, I don't know,

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01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 9: It's like Mexico. That country's scary. I don't know if

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01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 9: I trust Mexico.

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01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: I have they serve Margarita's.

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01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 9: Margarita's and like, I don't know, and all the people

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01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 9: there look different from me. I'm hoping that that's not

1396
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 9: the vibe.

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01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: But this might be the territory we're heading in.

1398
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 9: Is the vibe? Is the vibe? Are they going to

1399
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 9: be Mexico but they have Mexicans? I hope it's not.

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01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 6: She'd be car racing without the car.

1401
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 3: Darla, Darla, Darla back in your box.

1402
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 12: Oh god, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, it's like

1403
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 12: a wormhole going into itself anyway.

1404
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 4: It's like that scene from ant Man where oh God,

1405
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 4: I can't.

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01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 13: The hotel has regularly priced rooms on the website, but

1407
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 13: during the week of our wedding, there are other weddings

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01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 13: which also have rooms blocked, and many of the rooms

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01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 13: show is unavailable for this reason, thus not showing the

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01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 13: pricing online for that particular week.

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01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 2: So her second issue was that she emailed the wedding

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01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 2: coordinator a few days prior about booking a room and

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01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: had not heard back from her, which made it seem

1414
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 2: more sketchy. Explain to her that my fiance and I

1415
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 2: had been to this resort before and knew that it

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01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 2: is in fact not a scam, and that we have

1417
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 2: been emailing with the wedding coordinator over the past six

1418
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 2: weeks and sometimes she takes a while, like six days

1419
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 2: to respond, and sometimes he responds immediately, so it didn't

1420
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 2: seem out of character. Darla simply responded that she would

1421
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 2: just have to wait and see what the email from

1422
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 2: the wedding coordinator said and would let me know. Now

1423
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 2: it has been an entire month since this last conversation

1424
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 2: with Darla, and I have not heard one single word

1425
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: from her. Darla, we needed you to you.

1426
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 13: Revert back out of the Fox and Talk Talk box

1427
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 13: to us about your intentions of going.

1428
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 2: To this wedding or not. That's exactly what we need to.

1429
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 4: Do, Darla.

1430
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 9: I need you to channel your inner Roddy Rich and

1431
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 9: release the box.

1432
01:04:58,560 --> 01:04:59,959
Speaker 4: Oh publicly true.

1433
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 3: That was a deep cut.

1434
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 4: That was just for me. That reference was just for me.

1435
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 2: I mean I enjoyed it as well. You got that, Yeah,

1436
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: coopan a lot in the box.

1437
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 10: Did you know that in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one,

1438
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 10: the Box was the most listens to song.

1439
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 9: Riley Loves Box, Riley Loves Box.

1440
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 4: Can't keep a good Man down.

1441
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 2: My fiance says to just let it go and assume

1442
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: she won't come torn, because I would love to have

1443
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: her by my side. And I'm honestly still in disbelief

1444
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 2: that she's behaving so far out of character all of

1445
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 2: a sudden. I don't want to know what happened, but

1446
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm apprehensive to actually reach out again. Kind of a

1447
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 2: Schrodinger's cat situation for me. What exactly should I do here?

1448
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 2: If she had told me she couldn't afford it or

1449
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: that there was a work conflict. I would have just

1450
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: let it go and moved on, But I'm in limbo here.

1451
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 2: Should I just let it go like my fiancee advised,

1452
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: or should they keep trying to talk with her about

1453
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: this and actually get some sort of resolution regardless of

1454
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 2: the outcome.

1455
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 9: Really yeah, because your friend has made it clear that

1456
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 9: they're not coming