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Speaker 1: Triumph Channel one thirty two. An incredible talent, a star

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Speaker 1: known to many, her face instantly recognizable. Alison Mac a

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Speaker 1: sex cult leader. It doesn't even make sense. This is

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Speaker 1: a woman we have all invited into our homes a

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Speaker 1: million times. This woman has starred in so many shows.

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Speaker 1: You know her immediately when you see her face. It's

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Speaker 1: almost incomprehensible that she's a leader of a sex cult

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Speaker 1: where women were branded with initials, Alexis to rus Chuck

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Speaker 1: joining me from Radar Online dot Com investigative reporter, Alexis.

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Speaker 1: It's a little hard for me to believe this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know how it is, Alexis, And I'll go to

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Speaker 1: When you invite somebody into your home repeatedly, even though

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Speaker 1: for me to believe. The state better have a good

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Speaker 1: case against this woman. Start at the beginning, Alexis, terrest oh, ps,

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Speaker 1: I mean as he Grace, this is crime Stories. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for being with us, Alexis. What's going on? So Alsamac

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Speaker 1: who is a famous actress. Everybody knows her that TV

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Speaker 1: show small Ville, which everyone loves. She started it she

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Speaker 1: show Smallville? Okay, go ahead. She has been arrested, hauled

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Speaker 1: And it's called nexium, right Nexium. Isn't that some type

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Speaker 1: of like an indigestion pill? Right right now? What is nexium? Okay, Jackie?

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Speaker 1: Apparently you know it from she's shaking her head. Yes,

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Speaker 1: And there's also a sex cult named Axiom. That's a

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Speaker 1: after an indigestion peel. But that is neither here nor there.

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Speaker 1: And another thing to you, Missy alexis terrestro. When people

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Speaker 1: But she was a member of this cult. She met

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Speaker 1: It's real n x I v M pronounced nexium. It's founder,

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Speaker 1: story journalist Frank Pelotto and the former next him publicist.

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Speaker 1: from it. Frank Parlotto with me, the former Nextian publicist.

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Speaker 1: what happens then, Frank? It begins innocently enough. The first

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Speaker 1: about a type of communication and being not only more

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Speaker 1: aware but more congruent in your communication. So you want

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Speaker 1: people to, if you will, to be a bit common

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Speaker 1: in what I say. You want people to buy your

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Speaker 1: character and the way they buy it, is they find

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Speaker 1: it congruent and authentic. The questions I mean, if someone

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Speaker 1: could be totally congruent in a character and express authentically

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Speaker 1: through that character, so they could do any sort of

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Speaker 1: a scene or whatever, certainly that actor could do any thing.

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Speaker 1: So the question is how do you achieve that? How

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Speaker 1: do you achieve congruence, how do you achieve authenticity? And

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Speaker 1: I think there are many roads to do this. The

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Speaker 1: thing that I think makes the source a bit unique

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Speaker 1: is I come from a non acting background. You could say,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm talking about. So that's that's

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00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: good and bad. The good aspect is it comes from

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Speaker 1: a behaviorist humanists sort of UM practical and philosophical background,

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00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: dealing with communication, dealing with UM all sorts of things

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Speaker 1: relating to the psychodynamics of of people and humans UM

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Speaker 1: without being tainted by the current pedagogy of acting. And

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00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: is both a good and a bad. The good is

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Speaker 1: when you have something that comes in like that fresh,

447
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: it provides a tool that goes outside of the box

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00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: of all the normal tool sets. You know, any actor

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Speaker 1: that wants to create a methodology of acting, especially if

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Speaker 1: they know those other methodologies, they're influenced in a certain way,

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00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: and that can be very, very good, but at times

452
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: it's also good to have something that is not influenced

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Speaker 1: in the normal way by that as if coming from

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Speaker 1: another planet. So to some degree, the source it's not

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Speaker 1: just created for actors. It's created for human communication. It's

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00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: something that can be used in arbitration, it's something that

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00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: can be used in negotiations, it's something that can be

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Speaker 1: used in parenting, it's something that could be used in

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Speaker 1: a love relationship. And it comes from that perspective, but

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Speaker 1: does have a strong application to what you would call

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Speaker 1: that authentic, gruent expression mhm. And it's not tainted by

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00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: the other schools that are all extraordinary, is not it's

463
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: not at all that they're not great, it's that this

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00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: is different. As you hear Alison mac interviewing the cult leader,

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00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: compare that the dichotomy of these victims describing being strip naked, blindfolded,

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Speaker 1: and tattoos. Sarah says she devoted twelve years to Nexium,

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00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: recruiting hundreds of new members, rising through the organization, even

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Speaker 1: opening and running a center in Vancouver along the way,

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00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: becoming best friends with Nancy Saltzman's daughter Lauren, who was

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Speaker 1: made of honor at Sarah's wedding. She's like my therapist,

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00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: and in the ranking system she's also above me. Then

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Speaker 1: in March, after all their years together in Nexium, Sarah says,

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00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: Laura approached her about a new and mysterious opportunity. She said,

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Speaker 1: I want to aviotue you to something that totally changed

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Speaker 1: my life. It was a secret sorority for women only,

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00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: life changing, but top secret. And the first step is

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Speaker 1: making a valve obedience to her as me being a

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Speaker 1: slave and her being my masters. The word slave, of course, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And objected every stage of the way, and she said,

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00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: it's just a it's a metaphor, it's a guru disciple.

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Speaker 1: Then came the night that Sarah says she and four

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Speaker 1: other women submitted one by one to being branded by

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Speaker 1: this woman, she says Dr Danielle Roberts. And then the

484
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: woman on the table screamed out in pain, you know,

485
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: twisted and turn and yelled, and the woman I was with,

486
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: holding her legs down, we looked at each other and

487
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: we just wept. Why didn't you let go and run

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00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: out of there, even naked? It didn't seem like a

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00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: choice at the time. She points two years of Nexium

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Speaker 1: training and all the indoctrination, all the years of women

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00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: are weak, women have no character. Now is the time

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Speaker 1: to prove I can do it, and I said. Sarah

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00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: gives another explanation for her obedience. Before she joined the

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Speaker 1: Secret Sorority and got branded. She says, Lawrence Saltzman had

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00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: demanded highly compromising collateral. You need to provide something to

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Speaker 1: me that I'm going to hold forever, just to confirm

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00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: and to and to solidify that you'll never share the secret.

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00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: So what did your giver? So I gave her a

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Speaker 1: written confessional and she she says, for her and some others,

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Speaker 1: the price of admission to the secret group also included

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00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: providing nude photos of themselves. So understand when women do that,

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00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to say no, I'm not doing this

503
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: because the person has something of you with them. Instantly,

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00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: all my alarm bells are going, absolutely so why did

505
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: you do it? I did it because I trusted her.

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00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: That was from ABC's report on Nexium. This is how

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00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: the whole thing works. Um during arrayment, a grand jury

508
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: herd testimony from former members of the cult. They claim

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00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: the Hollywood start MAC would lure young ladies into joining

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Speaker 1: the cult cult and then demand they turned over quote collateral.

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00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: The collateral would be compromising photos or their personal assets,

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Speaker 1: money belongings, car titles. That collateral was then used by MAC,

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Speaker 1: according to the grand jury, to control the women who

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Speaker 1: were transformed into branded sex slaves. And this is all

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00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: from court filings. Now the founder and Eery was arrested

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00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: the way Alexis Reschuck just told us. In Mexico, the

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00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: States said that during the past twenty years, Ranieri established

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Speaker 1: a series of self help programs self help programs. They

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00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: had centers, so they were getting a lot of money

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00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: funding in the US, Mexico, Canada, South America. And it

521
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 1: was a pyramid scheme. The courses cost thousands of dollars

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00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: and the people that took them were then encouraged to

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00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: pay for other classes and recruit other people to take

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00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: the classes so they could rise up within the ranks.

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Speaker 1: It's like, um, it's a pyramid scheme. And Bremner it's

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Speaker 1: like a Ponzi scheme. And Bremner Seattle lawyer explained what

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00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean by pyramid. Basically, it's like ami or any

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00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: of these kinds of things. That you just keep building

529
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: membership by using your members to go out and get

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00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: other people and just keep building that pyramid um. There's

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00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: a lot of financial ones like that too, but this

532
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: is human trafficking and it's just self perpetuating, and here

533
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: it's criminal. And what they're also claiming is that Alison Might,

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00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: the Hollywood star, would force women to become ex slaves

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Speaker 1: after they joined the group by threatening to drain all

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Speaker 1: their assets or release those compromising photos. So what would

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00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: happen Frank Parlotto with me the former Nexium publicist, the

538
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: journalists that first broke the story, you can find him

539
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: at art Voice, What would happen if someone try to

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00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: stop and leave the cult? Well, they threatened them with

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Speaker 1: the release of their quote unquote collateral. It all exploded

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00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: last year around May of two thousand seventeen, when the

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00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: secret part of Nexium they call it dust and that

544
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: stands for Dominus obsequious Sororium, or the master over the

545
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: slave women became revealed to them external group of Nexium,

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00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: the women who had not yet been branded, and that

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00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: caused kind of chaotic explosion with the Nexium and a

548
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: rapid exodus. L Lion stuck with the group, as did

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00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: the core slaves, and even when the women's were threatened,

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00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: some of them, like Sarah Edmondson, I decided to leave

551
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: any way and risk the collateral being released. It's just

552
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: amazing that this is happening right here under our own noses. Guys,

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00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: if you're not familiar with Alison mc the Hollywood star,

554
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: she played Chloe in Smallville, and that was the hit

555
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: show about Clark Kent, Superman, being raised in small vol

556
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: Kansas before he was known as Superman, and it lasted

557
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: ten seasons. She was also in Aunt Bully, she was

558
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: in Honey, We Shrunk Ourselves. She's been in a lot

559
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: of movies and is very well known in the in

560
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: the celebrity community. And then there's the Seagram's heiress as well,

561
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: who now apparently is um taking over a max position.

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00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 1: Take a listen to this. According to Emotional Materials, even

563
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: as a child, Raney was destined for greatness, speaking in

564
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: full sentences at age one, reading at age two, judo

565
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: champ and concert level pianists. At thirteen, I was told

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Speaker 1: that he was one of the smartest men in the

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Speaker 1: world and just an incredible man. With that, I'm going

568
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: to pass the microphone over to Mr Neary. So incredible.

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Speaker 1: It seems that an ordinary name just won't do. Participants

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00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: say they're taught to call Ranieri Vanguard. Vanguard. Yes, Vanguard

571
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: is the name that we referred to Keith as because

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00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: he is a leader of a philosophical movement. The second

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00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: highest ranking member of Nexium is a woman named Nancy Saltzman.

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00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 1: Former members say she is known as Prefact, so Keith

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00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: and Nancy Vanguarden Prefect. At the heart of Nexium training

576
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: is something called intensives, which former members say are like

577
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: group therapy, running as long as four teen hours a

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00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: day for up to sixteen days. Edmondson says she attended

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Speaker 1: her first in two thousand five, when she was twenty seven.

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00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: I left my five day my initial training, as if

581
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 1: a veil had been lifted and I could see things

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00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: more clearly in my life. I could communicate better with people.

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00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: That sounds fantastic, Yeah, it was great. Classes are invitation

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00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: only and they are not cheap. A five day intensive

585
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: will run you three thousand dollars. A sixteen day is

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00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: seventy hundred. In promotional videos and materials that claims more

587
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: than sixteen thousand people worldwide have taken Nexium courses. Many

588
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: testify to its effectiveness. I learned through the tools that

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00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: there was a different way. Sarah was recruited into the

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Speaker 1: group by filmmaker Mark Vicente. What was it that was

591
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: so compelling to you? Just a way to break down

592
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: and understand certain things in my life in a way

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00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: I never had before. Ranieri is fiercely protective of his

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00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: teaching is requiring participants to sign confidentiality agreements. Everyone signed it,

595
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: and if you didn't sign it, you couldn't take the curriculum.

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00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: We do know that Nexium has its own lingo. Students

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00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: are taught about overcoming disintegrations to become more potent and

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00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: less suppressive, and avoiding people termed parasites or luciferians. Did

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00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,200
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00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: turned on the news lately, you know the Internet has

602
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: created a dangerous new world. Data breaches exposed private information.

603
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: There's a new cybersecurity threat every other day, and criminals

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Speaker 1: can sell the identity of you and your family on

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Speaker 1: the dart web. It's time you take the power back

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Speaker 1: by using a new website called truth Finder. Truth Finder

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us here on Crime Stories.

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Speaker 1: I Nancy Grace, and we are shocked about a cult

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Speaker 1: right here under our own noses that has used women

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Speaker 1: as sex slaves after branding them. And these are educated

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Speaker 1: and many of them will to do women, some of

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Speaker 1: them Hollywood st ours, in fact, apparently even trying to

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00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: recruit Hermione, that's Emma Watson from the Harry Potter series,

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00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: trying to recruit Kelly Clarkson. Of course, Harmione and Kelly

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Speaker 1: Clarkson we're not involved in any way, but so many

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00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: other women fell for it as it was first noted,

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00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: it had the appearance of normalcy okay, and women got

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Speaker 1: into it as a women empowerment group. But I want

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Speaker 1: you to listen to Hollywood star Alison Mack. She is

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Speaker 1: on YouTube and she is raving about a women's empowerment group.

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Speaker 1: Here she's calling it by different initials, but it's Nexium.

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Speaker 1: So when someone's being authentic, you get the feeling that

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Speaker 1: not only that there's a person there in the moment,

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Speaker 1: but somehow you you reach into their very essence and

637
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: you you meet a unique individual. I don't know why

638
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: that makes me want to cry. It's beautiful. I think

639
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: it's sorry, okay, so but why why do you think

640
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: that's so emotional for me? I don't know. I think

641
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: because it seems like it's a something that I just

642
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I want it authenticity and I and

643
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:30,959
Speaker 1: I think authenticity. I think that there's a relaxed kind

644
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: of exchange that happens between people when there's no pretense,

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Speaker 1: And it seems like to me, those are like the

646
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Speaker 1: most moving, most meaningful most important moments in life. I'm

647
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: not disagreeing with you. Why, Yeah, it's funny. I mean

648
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: it feels like it's a silly way. It's like that's

649
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: where love is, Like that's where like two I guess

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00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: it's the existential thing. Like it feels like two souls

651
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: can come together without any sort of barrier country and

652
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: somehow there's completion or not a loneness or a transcendence

653
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: in some way. That feels like it's the root of

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Speaker 1: my motivation and a lot of all the things that

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Speaker 1: I do in life. And and I guess that's probably

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00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: part of the reason why I have such an a

657
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: session with art and creativity and things like that, because

658
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: it feels like the sole purpose of those things is

659
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: to generate that kind of an experience for people. You know,

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00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: Karen Stark, New York psychologist, Karen, when you're in so

661
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: deep in something, I guess it seems normal to you.

662
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: It seems normal to you, and it seems normal to

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00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: the people around you, and maybe for people who are

664
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: vulnerable for the first time, they get a strong feeling

665
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: of belonging to something. It always involves a charismatic leader,

666
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: so that you're enticed and you feel like you're getting

667
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 1: the special attention. She talks about Alice and math, the

668
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: fact that he was her mentor that he mentored her

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00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: in acting and the skills of acting, and they made

670
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: it all sound very legitimate. You took courses, there was

671
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: a curriculum. It became extremely enticing to be a part

672
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: of this group, particularly because there were so many people

673
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: who were celebrities or who had a great deal of money,

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00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: and you begin to question, well, if they why would

675
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: they be a member of this group if it were

676
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: not legitimate. We are talking about a cult that started

677
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: in Albany, New York, upstate New York, with connections all

678
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: over the world. Now it poses as a self help

679
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: organization to empower women, and it rides the coattails of

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00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: girl power. It ends up in the spotlight when the

681
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: New York Times investigation exposed that the women in the

682
00:46:53,920 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: group were referred to as slaves and subjected to ritual humiliations.

683
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: They starved themselves. They were forced to starve themselves to

684
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: achieve the cult leaders beauty ideal and to have repeated

685
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: relations with him. Okay, Alexis Terres Chuck writer online investigative reporter.

686
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: Where is he right now, Keith Ranieri. He is in custody.

687
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: He was arrested in March and extradited back to the

688
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: United States, so he is awaiting trial. The interesting thing

689
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: is Alison mac got released from jail, and according to

690
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: court paper, she is working with federal prosecutors on a pleabial,

691
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: so she might actually turn on him after having been

692
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: his right hand women for all these years. You know,

693
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm noticing something to Anne Bremner, Seattle lawyer, and um,

694
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: just like we saw with Harvey Weinstein, you know, he

695
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: would have other women do his dirty work, set up meetings,

696
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: set up quote interviews with Hollywood starlettson women would see

697
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: another woman thinking, oh this is okay. Do you see

698
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: that same thing? According to prosecutors working here, Because according

699
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: to U S Attorney more A Penza, Alison Mack was

700
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: one of the top members of this scheme, which was

701
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,959
Speaker 1: designed to give Ranieri sex slaves under the guys, a

702
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: female empowerment, and that she max starved women until they

703
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: fit Ranieri's sexual feminine ideal. So your lure a woman

704
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: is lured in by another woman, she thinks it's safe,

705
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: then it's too late. Well, That's why I'd be so

706
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: hard to have hers and to turn witness in a

707
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: case like this. I mean, it's just so abhorrent. You

708
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: know what she's done in the name of women's empowerment

709
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: during this mee to the tsunami in so many ways

710
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: that we're seeing and and HER's talking about women's empowerment.

711
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all criminal all the way around, and

712
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: she's going to try and escape down she's out on it,

713
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: a million dollar bill, and he's still in custoding. She

714
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 1: may well turned to Frank Parlato, former Nexium publicist, founder

715
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: of Art Voice and the journalists that broke the story. Frank,

716
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: how did you become involved with Nexium as their publicist?

717
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: But I was originally retained to work for them by

718
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: Claire Broffman, the Sea Grim's heiress, who funds the entire

719
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: operation of Nexium. She funded all of the branding and

720
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: the cult network, and I was retained back in two

721
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: thousand and seven to try to help them um get

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00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: a better public persona. Even at that time people in

723
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: the media were labeling this group as a call Well, Frank,

724
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: how did you get out of it? Why? I had

725
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: uncovered the teeth were nearing the head of the cult.

726
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: He had embezzled or swindled Claire Broffman out of one

727
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. And I approached Claire and I told

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Speaker 1: her that her money was missing and that Keith was

729
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 1: in charge of that money. A hundred million disappeared, and

730
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: she didn't really want to accept that um finding, which

731
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: you know later wound up being proven to be true.

732
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: She was contented and swindling her on a hundred fired thing.

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Speaker 1: There is also alleged connections to um. The twenty six

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Speaker 1: year old daughter of Dynasty actress Katherine Oxenburg and the

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00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: granddaughter of Princess Elizabeth of Yugoslavia. We're talking about alleged

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00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: claims that India Oxenburg, the twenty six year old daughter

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00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: and granddaughter, was brainwashed by this call. She's beautiful and

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Speaker 1: she fits exactly the physical description that Rank Parlotto and

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00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: Alexis terres Chuck are describing. The tall, thin blonde again,

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00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: the twenty six year old daughter of the dynasty star

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00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: Katherine Oxenburg, the granddaughter of a princess in Yugoslavia, was

742
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: hauling plastic tubs full of restaurant fare. Uh she toiled

743
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: at menial tasks and was allegedly a sex cult slave.

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00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: This is incredible to me. Her family allegedly claiming they

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00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: believe she was indeed brainwashed by this leader, Keith ra

746
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 1: Neery Um. He would lure young waif like women and

747
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: groom them, brand them with a hot iron. It's it's

748
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: almost more than I can believe is happening here in

749
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: our country under of guys, the disguise, the shroud, the

750
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: facade of normalcy, or once again, women are being persecuted

751
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 1: and mistreated. And I do not care how much money

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00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: you have, or how rich you are, or how well

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00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: connected you are. You're going to jail. Ranieri and Mac

754
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: We're onto you. So help me. If they cut a

755
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: deal with her, I don't care what she started. They

756
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: are wrong. She needs to go to jail and rot

757
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: right along with Keith Raniery for what they have done

758
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: to these young girls. Nancy Grace Crime Stories, signing off,

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00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: goodbye friend,