WEBVTT - Can you vacation in Antarctica?

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know

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<v Speaker 1>from house Stuff works dot com? Hey, welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Josh Clark. This with me is a man named

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<v Speaker 1>Charles W. Chuck Bryant. He's a little under the weather

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Yes, sick, Yes, and that should come through

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<v Speaker 1>in this show. Keep getting me. I'm not gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>you sick. I got my own little mic cover with

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<v Speaker 1>my name on it. I'm gonna take it, probably burn it.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I'm not gonna burn it because it's pricey. Didn't

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<v Speaker 1>the company get it for you though? Oh yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to waste the company money. That's good thinking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little ill, so all apologies, people, but we

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<v Speaker 1>like to soldier on here at s Y s K.

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<v Speaker 1>We meet our deadline. Remember when we often talked about

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<v Speaker 1>when you were sick for eight months? It was a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. Yeah, I'm hoping this is no more than

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<v Speaker 1>a few shows, maybe even just these two. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm because we're recording to today. But I feel bad

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<v Speaker 1>for you because both of them are kind of chilly, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>especially this one. Wintry topics. Yeah, well it's almost always

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<v Speaker 1>winter in Antarctica, even when it's summer season. Chuck. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever heard of a guy named Captain Robert Scott? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Scott, Bob Scott, cappy. I think he went by

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<v Speaker 1>rob instead of Bobby. Uh. He was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>first two people, or led one of the first two

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<v Speaker 1>expeditions to make it to the South Pole Antarctica, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was beaten by just four weeks by a Norwegian rival.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna say he's beaten by a polar

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<v Speaker 1>bear or something like that. Uh. No, well he did die.

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<v Speaker 1>A five man team made it to the South Pole

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<v Speaker 1>and started making their way back and just hit some

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<v Speaker 1>real freak weather. Um. And the guy that the team

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<v Speaker 1>meteorologist was in that five man team and just felt

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<v Speaker 1>awful that he'd missed this prediction. And they were just

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<v Speaker 1>buffeted by I think negative forty, negative ninety, just ridiculously

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<v Speaker 1>cold temperatures, so freak weather, or as they call it,

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<v Speaker 1>an Antarctica weather or Tuesday Tuesday. Um. So these guys died. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But there they were found, and among them were found

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<v Speaker 1>some some of the find some of the things. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a scientific expedition. Obviously, UM some of the notes

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<v Speaker 1>they made, UM some the weather notes, the um a

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<v Speaker 1>trio of penguin eggs, Emperor penguin eggs. So they this

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of the the crown jewel of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that they accumulated during the scientific expedition. And here's why.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently back in this era, this is nineteen eleven, I

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<v Speaker 1>think UM people thought that emperor penguins, because they couldn't fly,

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<v Speaker 1>were the most primitive birds on the planet. They hadn't involved,

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<v Speaker 1>and people were real keen on proving or disproving Darwin's

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<v Speaker 1>new theory about evolution through natural selection. So they figured,

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<v Speaker 1>if you go find the eggs of this very primitive bird,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to find the link to dinosaurs and birds.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why is because the Edwardians also believed that

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<v Speaker 1>um an animal went through all the stages of evolution

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<v Speaker 1>during its gestation. So they figured, hey, take some emperor

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<v Speaker 1>penguin eggs, crack them open, you're gonna find a dinosaur. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't work out like that, but they found the

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<v Speaker 1>very cute emperor penguin. They did dead inside, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>frozen to death. And now that I've seen the March

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<v Speaker 1>of the Penguins, I realized just how mean the expedition

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<v Speaker 1>kind of was. I didn't see that. Oh man, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't mess with an Emperor penguin egg. They go through

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to keep those things safe and warm and hatched,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't. You just don't steal three of them, agreed,

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<v Speaker 1>Captain Robert Scott did. And you can't did either. I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine you can't. But you can't pay someone to take

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<v Speaker 1>you as close as you like. And if you were

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<v Speaker 1>a jerk, you could contuvably do it. Sneak one out

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<v Speaker 1>in your old purse. Yeah, let's let's talk about vacationing

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<v Speaker 1>and Antarctica. Did you know you can do that? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I do now. Uh. Here, let's let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>body of land itself, because it's pretty remarkable. It's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>South Pole, Like you said, five percent of the lamb

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<v Speaker 1>masses ice, and I think the other point five is

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<v Speaker 1>a small putting green, but not mistaken. It's nice, says

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<v Speaker 1>Zoysia growing there. Uh. During the winter, they the ice

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<v Speaker 1>gets bigger, obviously, making it the fifth largest continent five

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<v Speaker 1>point million square miles of largely ice. And that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ice. Even though it's shrinking, which we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a little bit. Yeah, but naturally during the seasons

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<v Speaker 1>that expands and contracts slightly. Sure as ices want to do. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>When it's warm, which is November to fed Bruary, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be below freezing almost all the time. In the winter,

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<v Speaker 1>it can drop to ninety degrees below fahrenheit And I

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<v Speaker 1>got a world record here of one below zero at

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<v Speaker 1>the Bolstock station. Very dry, which is awesome because it's

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<v Speaker 1>like pristine, powdery snow. Uh, blustery winds. Actually that's not

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<v Speaker 1>the good part. Well, the winds are almost constant and

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<v Speaker 1>they get up to like two d you ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. Yeah, and by the way, two hundred miles

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<v Speaker 1>and hours three twenty one kilometers per hour for everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what ninety degrees below fahrenheit is minus

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight celsius. Yeah, like to convert for our friends

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<v Speaker 1>in other weird places. Yeah, two on that Canada. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of people live there. In fact, only

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<v Speaker 1>the only people that live there are people that have

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<v Speaker 1>set up research stations there. Yeah, it's in some I

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<v Speaker 1>guess some of them are manned year round, which is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty crazy. That's awesome. Yeah. So I say, if you

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<v Speaker 1>go to a research station during um, the time from

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<v Speaker 1>what February to November, Uh, you're gonna find maybe fifty

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<v Speaker 1>people there. And then when it's bustling from November to

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<v Speaker 1>February summertime, summertime, it's gonna be maybe a hundred fifty

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<v Speaker 1>people there. But all of these are temporary residents. No

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<v Speaker 1>one lives on Antarctica, well, temporary in a living since,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're permanent structures, right, They're not living in tents.

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<v Speaker 1>The residents are temporaries, not their structures. But there have

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<v Speaker 1>been people who were born on Antarctica. Yeah, now that

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<v Speaker 1>that was a cool fact of this show. I thought, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>have you heard of Emilio Marcos de Palma. I have? Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>he you have. He's Antarcticon. He is, He's the first

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<v Speaker 1>Antarcticon ever. He was born in January night, and um

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<v Speaker 1>it was a bit of a ploy. Actually his father

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<v Speaker 1>worked at a research station in Antarctica, and the Argentinian

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<v Speaker 1>government found out that this guy's wife was pregnant and

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<v Speaker 1>hustled her down to Antarctica to give birth there in

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<v Speaker 1>an attempt to lay claim to sovereignty of Antarctica. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's because no one is generally born there. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of nations over the years that have tried

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<v Speaker 1>to claim it as her own, including Argentina, Australia, Chile, France,

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<v Speaker 1>Great Britain, New Zealand, and Norway. And I'm surprised the

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<v Speaker 1>U S hadn't none there. Don't we know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>land out there that we don't have our Chile did

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<v Speaker 1>the same pull the same stunt as Argentina. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>think six years after Emilio Marcus to Palma was born

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<v Speaker 1>and a kid named Juan Pablo Camacho was the second

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<v Speaker 1>Antarctican ever born. But you can have as many babies

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<v Speaker 1>as you want there, you're not gonna establish sovereignty because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a treaty from nineteen fifty nine called the Antarctic

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<v Speaker 1>Treaty appropriately enough, and basically it says that Antarctic doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>belong to anybody. It's like the oceans. It belongs to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone and no one UM, no one can lay claim there.

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<v Speaker 1>And because it doesn't belong to anybody, and because it

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<v Speaker 1>belongs to everybody, um, it's protected from war and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a nuclear free zone. Would you war anyway, No, I

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<v Speaker 1>know here's gonna fight in other people or in the

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<v Speaker 1>case of the thing, you would be fighting some horrific

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<v Speaker 1>shape shifting beast. And by the way, we should probably

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<v Speaker 1>point out I think it's still commonly overlooked. Uh, Antarctic

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<v Speaker 1>is the only place where you can find penguins, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They're not in the Arctic. Okay, I didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>penguins Antarctic. And also, if you you know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you love HP Lovecraft. Here there um, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>into Antarctic and you want to be scared out of

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<v Speaker 1>your wits by an emperor penguin reed at the Mountains

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<v Speaker 1>of Madness, I love Crash. I want to read that one, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably his best one, and it's set entirely in Antarctica.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're making a movie. I think they had before.

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson's looking into it. I think that would be good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably the only person who could pull it off,

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<v Speaker 1>but he'll he'll probably fail like everybody else. What about

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<v Speaker 1>Eugene Levy, You don't think he could do it. He

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<v Speaker 1>could be too charming, you know, like it wouldn't exist

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<v Speaker 1>in The Cannon or a Christopher Guest movie. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>Spinal Tap for the first time the other day, first

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<v Speaker 1>time ever ever? Shut up, was like, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>mean you haven't seen Spinal Taps? Watched it right, I

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. I had no idea what I was missing.

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<v Speaker 1>I tweeted to Michael McKeon and said, are you aware

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<v Speaker 1>that you were in Spinal Tap? And he tweeted back,

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<v Speaker 1>shut up, Wait what he said? Yeah, I favorite it,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're on was that personally or that was s y?

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<v Speaker 1>So we're on his radar in a small way. Apparently. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>at the very least he thought it was a funny tweet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty funny. And I can't believe you never saw that.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally watch that movie over fifty times in college,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I can recite it almost by heart. I can

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<v Speaker 1>totally see that. Yeah, I can see that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love, you know, best in Show a lot, so

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<v Speaker 1>I knew i'd like Special Tap. Well, that was the

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<v Speaker 1>that was the original. It was strange seeing Harry Shear

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<v Speaker 1>because I just associate him with The Simpsons almost entirely. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's great in that too. I can talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff all day. Let's get back to Antarctica, or we

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<v Speaker 1>should do a Christopher guest final tap um. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you want a vacation there, which you can do, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get there. And in this case, getting there, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's half the fun, but it's half

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<v Speaker 1>the challenge because you're not gonna find any I twenties

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<v Speaker 1>zooming into Antarctica or any Delta Airline flights landing there, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of the action, um, when you're traveling to

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<v Speaker 1>Antarctica takes place on the Antarctic Peninsula, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>sweep of land that juts out toward uh, Southern South America.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine almost all of Antarctica is still very much not

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<v Speaker 1>trod upon, you know. Um, yeah, it was just explored

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<v Speaker 1>like at the beginning of the last century. Basically, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people like why don't I want to go down there?

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<v Speaker 1>Took us off right exactly. So like you were saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not easy to get to, and you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the point that's easiest to get to

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<v Speaker 1>from southern South America. So most likely you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>take a ship cruise ship probably from Argentina or Chile

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<v Speaker 1>and show up, which seems weird that they're that close.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very close isn't it. And the weird Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>you think of like hot temperatures, you do, but then

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh wait, that's Bolivia I'm thinking of. Chili

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<v Speaker 1>is actually right by Antarctica. The first commercial cruise liners,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're gonna get there by ship is how you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get there, and cruise ship is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most popular ways to do that these days. The first

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<v Speaker 1>one came in sixty nine and that was the lind

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<v Speaker 1>Blade Explorer. Just to give you an idea of the

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<v Speaker 1>increase in tourism over the years, in the early nineties

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<v Speaker 1>only about nine thousand people per year and just a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago in two thousand eight, two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>seven to eight forty, which doesn't sound like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people, but it's a lot for Antarctica, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you consider the proportion that we're wearing Mickey mouse heres

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. They're incruising around the glaciers drinking Chilean wine. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>There is an UH tourist association, the i A a

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<v Speaker 1>t O Internets association of Antarctic tour operators formed in

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<v Speaker 1>the early nineties and their mission basically is to keep

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<v Speaker 1>everything safe and keep everything above board and ethical on

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<v Speaker 1>a environmental uh scale, because they're gonna want it to

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<v Speaker 1>be ruined. Antarctica is supposedly pristine, it is. We found

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<v Speaker 1>out it isn't though that same uh, the same scott expedition. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how. I don't want to think hell

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<v Speaker 1>but came about came by some uh Emperor penguin skins

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<v Speaker 1>and they're still to this day used to um as

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<v Speaker 1>a control sample when you're comparing um tainted Emperor penguin

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<v Speaker 1>skins today. And they found out that d DTS actually

0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.200
<v Speaker 1>made its way down there to any So it's not

0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.280
<v Speaker 1>really pristine cheese that's pretty pristine, right. Well, now that

0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.240
<v Speaker 1>you have all these ships and people running all over

0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the place exactly like the ever Steel exactly, uh, November

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<v Speaker 1>to March is, like we said this quote unquote summertime,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's when tourists are most likely going to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit smaller than ice sheet, which means boats

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be able to get around easier because

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to be able to navigate through the ice sheets,

0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and not a whole lot of boats have the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hull that it can withstand bumping into icebergs. No,

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<v Speaker 1>this was very alarming to me. There's there are people

0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.280
<v Speaker 1>who were going on cruises on cruise ships, and these

0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:59.560
<v Speaker 1>cruise ships can't withstand in iceberg. The um the Lynn

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<v Speaker 1>Blade Explore, Yeah, the first one, Yes, that was also

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<v Speaker 1>the first one. That was also the one that sank

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand seven. It was the same exact ship

0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.320
<v Speaker 1>and ironic, yeah, they changed the name to the MS Explorer,

0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:12.800
<v Speaker 1>but it was the same exact ship. The first one,

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<v Speaker 1>the first cruise ship to go to Antarctica, was also

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<v Speaker 1>I believe the first one to sink in two thousand seven.

0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.680
<v Speaker 1>It was actually outfitted to withstand in iceberg and it's

0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.360
<v Speaker 1>still sunk. So then you consider that there's plenty of

0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.280
<v Speaker 1>cruise lines down there that aren't in any way um

0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:31.560
<v Speaker 1>equipped to take an iceberg. Apparently they're very worried that

0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:34.760
<v Speaker 1>this is a disaster waiting to happen. Well, let's go

0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.880
<v Speaker 1>ahead and go there then. Uh. Since two thousand seven,

0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.960
<v Speaker 1>there have been four ships that have run aground, which

0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.320
<v Speaker 1>is not a good place to run aground. No. Well,

0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.880
<v Speaker 1>plus it's not good for Antarctica because it's like, hey,

0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:49.280
<v Speaker 1>have you met our refined fuel yet? Yeah, that's true. Uh,

0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.120
<v Speaker 1>but if if you do run aground and you're in

0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:54.240
<v Speaker 1>a in a cruise ship incident, you're gonna be stuck

0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.200
<v Speaker 1>there for a little while because it's not like any

0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.160
<v Speaker 1>other place where they can just send out a star

0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.640
<v Speaker 1>team and all of a sudden you're getting rescued six

0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:05.360
<v Speaker 1>hours later. So in two thousand seven, uh, with the

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<v Speaker 1>MS Explorer, these these passengers were in lifeboats, it says

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<v Speaker 1>for hours. I wonder how long I don't know. I

0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.480
<v Speaker 1>can imagine a while. And they got picked up by

0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.280
<v Speaker 1>another cruise ship, right, So it wasn't even a star

0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:18.840
<v Speaker 1>team that came to rescue him. No, it was a

0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Norwegian cruise Lines I think that came and got them.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're like thank you. And that same year, actually

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<v Speaker 1>uh and Curry from UH what is she? From the

0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Today Show? She was doing in the morning. She was

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<v Speaker 1>doing a piece called Ends of the Earth, and she

0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.760
<v Speaker 1>went down to Antarctica and she and her crew ended

0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:40.400
<v Speaker 1>up getting stuck there for days and they just hung

0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.440
<v Speaker 1>around the research station, which we'll get to in a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of freak weather though, right, not like an accident, no,

0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:49.480
<v Speaker 1>but the freak weather is apparently fairly common, so you

0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:53.280
<v Speaker 1>just call it again weather down there or Tuesday weather. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently if you book an Antarctic vacation, the tour

0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.480
<v Speaker 1>operator says, don't make any big plan on two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>of either side of your trip, because there's no telling

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<v Speaker 1>really when you're gonna go down there. They're shooting for

0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.360
<v Speaker 1>this window, but it might not be that window. That

0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.480
<v Speaker 1>might put me off, not from a schedule standpoint, but

0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.440
<v Speaker 1>just from beer, you know. And then I have a

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<v Speaker 1>story for you. So, um, this is all in summer,

0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:20.720
<v Speaker 1>like you might get stuck there during the summer. If

0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.200
<v Speaker 1>you're in winter, there's no way for you to get out.

0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.720
<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely stuck there. Nobody's coming in and you're not

0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:27.880
<v Speaker 1>coming out. You have to honker down for the winner. Yeah,

0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:31.040
<v Speaker 1>they shut it all down right, I'll travel, yes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And they're I think beginning in nineteen nine, the Russians

0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:41.520
<v Speaker 1>built the Novo Lazarre of Skia. That's my Russian. Uh,

0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.480
<v Speaker 1>they're antarctic base. The Russian Antarctic base was built, and

0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.680
<v Speaker 1>two years later there was a surgeon there named Leonid

0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Rogozov and he was stuck there for the winner. No,

0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.440
<v Speaker 1>he was with some other people, but he was the

0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.440
<v Speaker 1>only physician, and he just happened to figure out that

0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.360
<v Speaker 1>he had a cute pancreat titus man and that he

0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.040
<v Speaker 1>was about to die, and that he had two choices.

0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.240
<v Speaker 1>He could either allow himself to die, or he could

0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.280
<v Speaker 1>perform an eppendex to me on himself. I'm sorry he

0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:14.360
<v Speaker 1>had appendicitis. He performed an appendect me on himself. When

0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.480
<v Speaker 1>you're doing this, you can't knock yourself out. So he

0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:21.240
<v Speaker 1>had no anesthesia whatsoever, and he stayed awake the whole time.

0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.440
<v Speaker 1>He would work for four or five minutes as he

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<v Speaker 1>was carving. There's a famous picture of him like carving

0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:29.400
<v Speaker 1>himself and he just stained with blood. Um and uh,

0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.399
<v Speaker 1>he'd worked for four or five minutes, rest for about

0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty seconds, try to keep from passing out. And

0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:38.080
<v Speaker 1>he finally did it. He successfully performed surgery on himself

0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and lived to uh two thousand I think is when

0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:44.080
<v Speaker 1>he died. And he lived another two minutes. But he

0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, could you be badder than that? He's pretty bad.

0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:50.359
<v Speaker 1>He's up there with and uh who was the white

0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the white death uh Seemohiah. Yeah, yeah, I'd like to

0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.360
<v Speaker 1>see those guys sit down and have a tough off

0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:00.720
<v Speaker 1>like an arm wrestling competition. So any way, you're stuck

0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.280
<v Speaker 1>there in the winter for sure, but you can frequently

0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.439
<v Speaker 1>get stuck there in the summer too, which hey, you

0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.000
<v Speaker 1>know it's only like fIF theme below. In the summer,

0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:15.280
<v Speaker 1>you're golden. Uh. Sightseeing cruises probably what the most popular

0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.880
<v Speaker 1>thing to do, like the Alaskan cruise. They'll they'll run

0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:23.439
<v Speaker 1>you through, uh, through the Kodak Gap, which did you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the pictures of this place? Oh my gosh.

0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:29.240
<v Speaker 1>The La Mayre Channel is the official name between the

0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Booth Island Mountains and the Arctic Peninsula peninsula. But they

0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.520
<v Speaker 1>call it that obviously because they should call it the

0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Digital Mpeg Gap now, I guess. But it's extremely photogenic.

0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.920
<v Speaker 1>It's it's where you see like those just like ice

0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.760
<v Speaker 1>blue cave ice caves that you can like go through

0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.119
<v Speaker 1>when your boat and stuff like that. I guess, not

0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.919
<v Speaker 1>caves but tunnels. It's pretty amazing. And I hope you

0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.600
<v Speaker 1>don't strike either side exactly. So they're gonna take you

0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.800
<v Speaker 1>on these cruises. They're gonna get you close. Uh. Some

0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.600
<v Speaker 1>of these tours will take you actually onto land from

0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.639
<v Speaker 1>a smaller boat or a helicopter for a little while,

0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:07.440
<v Speaker 1>but you're not going to be spending a whole lot

0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.359
<v Speaker 1>of time on land if you're doing one of the

0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:13.720
<v Speaker 1>cruise ships. Right there are there are some um expeditions

0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you can undertake, Like, um, there's something you can cross

0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:20.199
<v Speaker 1>country skihole and you can't along the way. It's like

0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a two week tour. I think, Yeah, I'll bet it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool too, but I think you have to be

0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:30.840
<v Speaker 1>um kind of strong of mind, probably get you'll go nuts. Yeah,

0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I would imagine, Well, it depends. I mean, I'm sure

0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.840
<v Speaker 1>there are conditions to where it's like quote unquote warm

0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and just lovely in blue, but there's also going to

0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.439
<v Speaker 1>be the white outs where you can't see your hand

0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:44.360
<v Speaker 1>in front of your face and the wind is like

0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:48.440
<v Speaker 1>blowing your headgear off, and yeah that's no good. Well,

0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.000
<v Speaker 1>plus also, I think plenty of it's barren. It's just

0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the same view three and sixty degrees, which has to

0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:57.919
<v Speaker 1>drive you a little nutty too. It's lovely though. Um.

0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:02.240
<v Speaker 1>You can also, if you're insane already, run a marathon

0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.399
<v Speaker 1>in Antarctica. I'm gonna tell my friend James about this.

0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:09.160
<v Speaker 1>He's a trail runner and does like these trail marathons

0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and these crazy things. And he's I think he's doing

0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.320
<v Speaker 1>one in Ireland soon. So he likes to travel. I'm

0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:16.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna turn him onto this. All he needs is about

0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:20.320
<v Speaker 1>sixteen grand and he can join in the Adventure Network

0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:24.639
<v Speaker 1>International full or half marathon. I would imagine it's UM

0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.600
<v Speaker 1>fifteen five for the half marathon and then sixteen grand

0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:31.080
<v Speaker 1>for the full marathon. UM. But you're running in the

0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:36.200
<v Speaker 1>interior of Antarctica UM about minus twenty degrees ferret height,

0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:39.240
<v Speaker 1>and you're going to have to deal with the temperature,

0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the wind, chances in elevation, and b penguins trying to

0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.080
<v Speaker 1>trip you because they got money on somebody else. And

0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:48.960
<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, running a marathon, let's not forget that

0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.240
<v Speaker 1>that's challenging in July. It keeps me at home right there.

0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:54.280
<v Speaker 1>What I want to know what they run in though?

0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Shoe wise, Yeah, I wonder, you know, I wonder if

0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.960
<v Speaker 1>if it's I mean, obviously are not wearing snowshoes or

0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.720
<v Speaker 1>anything like that, or spikes. I guess there's areas where

0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:07.120
<v Speaker 1>just heavy tread would work. I would think, So there's

0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:09.359
<v Speaker 1>gotta be or else. What are you gonna do? You

0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:13.439
<v Speaker 1>can't run a marathon and snowshoes, so it's ridiculous. Uh

0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:16.120
<v Speaker 1>So once you're there, you want to pass a little time,

0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:18.720
<v Speaker 1>You want to see some things that are awesome. Besides

0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:23.400
<v Speaker 1>the Kodak gap. Uh you can go check out the

0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the mountain there and you can even climb it and

0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:28.199
<v Speaker 1>it's really not I didn't get a hide on that,

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:32.040
<v Speaker 1>did you. No? But it's a four mile climb, which

0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:34.920
<v Speaker 1>isn't that much. No, I mean it's not. It's nothing

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.439
<v Speaker 1>to sneeze at. But it's no Everest, But I imagine

0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:40.280
<v Speaker 1>there's probably a lot of ice to it, ice climbing

0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and as well as just rock climbing. Mount Vincent is

0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:48.120
<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about. What did I say? Vincent vin

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Sun not Vincent. Okay, it's the son of Vincent. Got

0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.320
<v Speaker 1>you sorry about that? You can go get your picture

0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.560
<v Speaker 1>made in a bikini in front of the little South

0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Pole marker at the uh Amonson Scott South Pole Station.

0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:05.400
<v Speaker 1>It's very famous American research center at the South Pole.

0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.159
<v Speaker 1>And they had a little candy cane pole with a

0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 1>little silver ball on top of it. And I've seen

0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:13.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of pictures of ladies and bikinis taking their

0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:16.680
<v Speaker 1>picture there. So the Americans never said this is our land,

0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:18.480
<v Speaker 1>but they're the ones who built the research station like

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:22.199
<v Speaker 1>virtually on top of the South Pole. Um and Amonson Scott.

0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:24.520
<v Speaker 1>That's named after the two guys who made it to

0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the South Pole, including Robert Scott and Roald Amerson. When

0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:32.720
<v Speaker 1>was this the early nine It was a nineteen eleven

0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and nineteen twelve, which makes it seem like um Amonson

0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:38.080
<v Speaker 1>beat the tar out of Scott, but it was really

0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:41.719
<v Speaker 1>four weeks this summer in January. Yeah, and when you go,

0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you're going to find that they're very friendly people at

0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 1>this facility, that there are tours already set up. It's

0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of a routine thing to like go to, you know,

0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:54.399
<v Speaker 1>the American South Pole Station because I mean, if you

0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:57.040
<v Speaker 1>like the George, you're gonna love Antarctica. But there's not

0:22:57.080 --> 0:23:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that much to do, really, no, there really is. You

0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 1>check out the there's a lot of wildlife. Well, yes,

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:05.720
<v Speaker 1>and apparently one of the cool things about Emperor penguins

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:09.159
<v Speaker 1>and penguins in general is they are not at all

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:11.880
<v Speaker 1>afraid of humans. That's because we've never killed them with

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.760
<v Speaker 1>reckless abandon I know, or at least as far as

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:18.520
<v Speaker 1>they know. And apparently they'll just ignore us and um,

0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:22.000
<v Speaker 1>hang out with us and post for pictures. Yeah, they'll

0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 1>do close ups, but uh, it's just about any naturalist

0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 1>or biologists will tell you just hanging around an animal

0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and watching it like some slack jawgoon is going to

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 1>produce stress in the animal, most likely because the animal,

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:39.720
<v Speaker 1>even though it's not scared of you as a predator,

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:41.679
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't know what you're going to do, or what

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you're doing or what you want. And um, you just

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 1>probably should keep that in mine when you're observing penguins.

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Don't chase the penguins. And when I said a lot

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 1>of wildlife, let me clear that up. It's not like

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Yosemite National Park wildlife. But it is a very hospitable

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:02.359
<v Speaker 1>place for certain kinds of animals, especially animals that live

0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 1>in the water, because there's just tons of protein. You

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:07.520
<v Speaker 1>got whales, you got penguins, you got polar bears, and

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you have to see marks of the penguins. I don't know,

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was just one of those movies they

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>just got by me. It is I think I won

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:18.680
<v Speaker 1>an oscar. Yeah sure, what Morgan Freeman, Yeah, buddy, yeah, Um,

0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it's a really great movie. Have you ever

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 1>been to the aquariums penguin exhibit? Uh? Yes, you know

0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 1>you can stick your head up that you can crawl

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>into the tunnel and you stick your head up into

0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 1>a clear plexi hole for your head basically, and the

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:38.119
<v Speaker 1>penguins are right there right in front of your face, like,

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:42.120
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? Yeah, you're stressing me out, So

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>chuck um. The water is generally or the sea is

0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 1>good for the wildlife around it because they've adapted to it.

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 1>If you're one of those polar bear guys, though you

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:57.439
<v Speaker 1>can't considerably jump in during the winter, you should do

0:24:57.560 --> 0:24:59.679
<v Speaker 1>so at your own risk. Oh that the humans that

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>do that stuff, because the water gets down to about

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:05.680
<v Speaker 1>thirty two degrees fahret height there, I should say, up

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 1>to thirty two degrees fahrenheight, and you're going to freeze

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>because that's zero celsius um. It's very very dangerous. And

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:15.880
<v Speaker 1>if you do that and you hurt yourself, you're gonna

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 1>find yourself on a long, arduous journey back to Chili

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:23.479
<v Speaker 1>or Argentina um at your own expense. Yeah, I mean,

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:25.919
<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit of medical help at these stations,

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:29.880
<v Speaker 1>and maybe a passing cruise ship will have the good

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>doctor from the love Boat on board, but um, you're

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be able to get serious medical attention and

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>you're you could be in trouble unless you get either

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.760
<v Speaker 1>too sweet or you're gonna be performing self surgery right

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>exactly d D style. So how much does this kind

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>of run you? Uh? I don't know, do you know?

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I've heard you can expect to spend

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 1>upwards of ten grand I mean the marathon was sixteen grand.

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean getting there's gonna be pricey, period. Sure, but

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like a really probably probably like um full on great

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>state room kind of cruised down there, including airfare to

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 1>South America's gonna run you ten grand or probably last.

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you can get deals for less, but you

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<v Speaker 1>need to have a little bit of cash to make

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>it down to Antarctic. It's not a poor man's vacation.

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's what you're saying. Environmental safety concerns, Josh,

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 1>we talked about obviously, would you say, was there now?

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:30.119
<v Speaker 1>D D T. Yeah, they've on traces of it. They

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:34.160
<v Speaker 1>found it in penguins cheese. Uh. In April two thousand nine,

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 1>there was a joint session of the Antarctic Treaty Panel

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 1>and the Arctic Council, and they met in Baltimore, Maryland,

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.879
<v Speaker 1>which I'm sure that's nice in April, but for some

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:46.679
<v Speaker 1>reason I thought they would say, like, let's go to

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Phoenix in July and hold our meeting and baw. But

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.439
<v Speaker 1>they had, you know, a lot on the agenda, including

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 1>global warming talks, shipping routes, stuff like that. But they

0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>did talk about tourism, and not incidentally or coincidentally, around

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 1>that same time, a twenty five mile ice shelf broke

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.919
<v Speaker 1>off shattered into the sea, which kind of was like

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>symbolic of hey, we really need to talk about tourism.

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>That's huge. And the the I guess the tourism and

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>the loss of ice has this sort of self reinforcing

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 1>thing going on. Because you lose ice, you actually get

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 1>more tourism, which is ostensibly responsible for even further climate

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:33.120
<v Speaker 1>change in the area. And so you lose more ice

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and you get even more tourism. And the reason why

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>is because you lose twenty five mile piece of ice,

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:39.640
<v Speaker 1>cruise ships go, oh, we can go in here. Now

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>we have a passage exactly, so they're they're coming up with. UM,

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess an idea of how they can. UM, they

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<v Speaker 1>want to ban the construction of any kind of hotels

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:55.879
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that, any permanent, not even accommodations. No,

0:27:56.080 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>not even although that would probably no, that would be permanent.

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 1>It down there, I'm sure you can't say it would be.

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't be permanent. But because right, UM, you want

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>they need they want to do a number a limitation

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 1>to the number of ships that can come in every year. UM,

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>restrictions on how close ships can come to shore. Yeah,

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.159
<v Speaker 1>like are you gonna drop people off here at the

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 1>shore line? Yeah, just to see those little penguins. But

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>here's the problem. They can't just say like, Okay, we're

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna have fifty ships a year or twenty or whatever. Uh,

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 1>if you touch the penguins, you'll be executed by the

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>International Criminal Court at the Hague. UM. They can't say

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>these things because no one has any sovereign right to

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>issue any kind of decree over Antarctic. So what can

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>they do to establish guidelines and recommend that signatory countries

0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and travel agencies follow them and suggest to highly suggest that.

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>But right now there's only forty seven signatory countries on

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the Antarctic Treaty. Yeah, I wonder who's on there. I

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>was gonna look that up, but I didn't get a chance. Uh.

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 1>And the reason why they don't ban people outright, not

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>only can they not, but one of the most important

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 1>parts of that the treaty is that it does allow

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 1>freedom of access. They're like, you know what, you can

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>come here. Yeah, they can't stop anybody from coming there.

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>And I feel like I feel like they want to

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>allow it just to a degree. Sure I might be

0:29:23.520 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>wrong there, but well, I'm sure that the tour operators

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 1>associations like, I don't know, we wanna tread lightly here exactly. UM.

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>And then speaking of getting stuck in Antarctica, one last

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>thing you know about this UM. A couple of years

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 1>ago they a case of eleven bottles of Scotch McKinley Scotch,

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>which isn't made any longer and was originally produced in

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>eight or ninety seven and was part of the um

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Ernest Shackleton Nimrod expedition of nineteen o seven, was left

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>beneath his hut and forgotten for like a hundred years,

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and they found it in two thousand and six when

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>do we talk about this on the webcast, the good

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>old webcast, and they got it out of there. Remember

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>you and I were like, what's going to happen to this?

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Because that treaty like you're Antarctica is there for scientific expedition.

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>You're supposedly not supposed to touch anything that has any

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of historical or scientific significance. It's not supposed to

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.239
<v Speaker 1>come out. So they're like, you can't really remove this,

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>we have to drink it down there. Well, it turns

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>out that UM Canterbury Museum in Christchurch, New Zealand now

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>has this scotch and it's exhibit. I can't remember. Did

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>they sample it? Someone didn't they No one will probably

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>ever taste the scotch. Instead, they've allowed some scotch makers

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>to UM to take samples and see if they can

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>recreate it because no one has the original recipe anymore's

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>taken it up. That's what I'm thinking too, But surely

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>some rich guy was like, get me that scotch. Here's

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>as much money as you need. And it didn't go

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>into the hands of some rich scotch lover. It went

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>to a relatively unknown own museum in New Zealand. Which

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>is pretty cool. I bet the night guard. I bet

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>there's some Kiwi security guard that's taken the tiniest of

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 1>nips and then filled it back up with like t

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>They'll never know. It's like the mini bar. So you

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:17.719
<v Speaker 1>got anything else? I don't. So that concludes our episode

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>on alcoholism among night watchmen. And if you want to

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>learn more about that or Antarctica, you want to type

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<v Speaker 1>in A N T A R C T I C

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>A in the handy search bar at how stuffworks dot com,

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>which means it's time for a listening to mail. Josh,

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this UH exchange email exchange because I'm

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>actually gonna read my response to UH sort of an

0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>upset Canadian. This is about daylight saving, which, by the way,

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>we must spoke. Go ahead and say that we're getting

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>beat up by the the people south of the equator.

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>When we said that they spring back and fall forward,

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>that it's not so. They spring forward and fall back.

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>It's just at opposite times as us. No, I'm saying, no,

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>they springboard, they fall back, but their spring is opposite

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>of our spring. You haven't seen that the Facebook and

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>emails they've been killing their spring Okay, I got to

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. It was very very North

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>hemispheres centric, and so I need to explain myself here

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 1>because I got an email from Marie from Canada and

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:33.800
<v Speaker 1>she was a little man at me. Just finished listening

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>to the podcast on daylight saving time. You mentioned that

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>in the civilized world time makes no difference and only

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>the rising and setting in the sun is really important.

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to offer you a different perspective on that.

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I live in white Horse, Yukon, Canada, and the sun

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>is currently rising at set and that's a whole five

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>hours and fifty seven minutes of light in the dead

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>of winter. I assure you that we are a fully

0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>functioning part of the civilized world here and setting the

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>time is very important to us. We do observe daylight

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>saving time in the Yukon and in the summer month

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:08.719
<v Speaker 1>when we get are on average eighteen hours of daylight.

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Having the clocks change makes a huge difference in my

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 1>daily life after the long dark. It's relief that the

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>clocks now allow for a little more vitaminded, I think

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>you I just found your comments callous. Perhaps you should

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>rely less on these skeptic pages, as it seems to

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>put you in a sour mood. St Yeah, please remember

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>that you have a very wide range of listeners and

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>we are not savages out in the waste lands. We're

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 1>intelligent people who enjoy learning and see you and your

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>colleagues is valuable and often entertaining source of information. She's

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 1>talking to you right, because it sounds like one of

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>your quotes. It was one of mine. So I wrote

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Marie back, and I was like, Marie, I you either

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>misunderstood or I didn't get it across. Clearly, I wasn't

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:54.719
<v Speaker 1>saying that at all. What I'm saying is the civilized

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>world is the The only reason clocks matter to me

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>is because Man invented clocks and time quote unquote to

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>get on schedule in a commerce way, so businesses could

0:34:09.560 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>be open and you could reference schedules and work schedules

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 1>and and shopping and things like that. If man had

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>never invented a clock, it wouldn't change anything about the

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>rising and setting of the sun. We would just operate

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>on the rising in the setting of the sun. It's

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 1>like I'm watching you for a future little so it

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>very much matters. Obviously in the civilized world, because that's

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>the only place at time matters. I imagine in third

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>world countries where they don't have clocks, they just operate

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>with the rising in the setting of the sun, like

0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>we did before we invented clocks. Does that make sense? Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly wasn't trying to say that people of Canada

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>were civilized people of Canada. Attention Chuck Bryant means you

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>no harm. He's a very nice guy. None can anthem.

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>But he is never out to hurt anybody's feelings. Even

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>when he does, it's accidental. Please accept his apologies. So

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>either misspoke or was misunderstood, or something got garbled up,

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>but sortainry so you have it. Thank you to all

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>of our friends in Canada for listening. Man. I gotta

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>tell you they take off easily, especially if you call

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>their thanksgiving pig thanksgiving. Their sensitive people they do not

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>like that. But it's because Americans are arrogant, and they're like,

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what, Yeah, but they don't necessarily pick up

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>on when we're poking fun at our own arrogance, which

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 1>is surprising because they gave us Dan at Kroy. Yeah,

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the whittier meant a lot so, uh, if you have

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>a great story about Dana Kroyd, we want to hear

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