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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolli.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt let's talk a

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Speaker 3: little draft again. Yeah, you gotta can't get too far right.

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Speaker 2: This hasn't fallen off here. The draft is still going

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Speaker 2: to be held in April.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like forty days away or forty two days

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Speaker 3: away or something.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Crabs on the thirty third team has put together

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Speaker 2: his post combine top one fifty. Okay, nice, So let's

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Speaker 2: take a look at that and see who's moving up

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Speaker 2: moving down, at least in his eyes. People need to

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Speaker 2: understand sure that guys move up or down. For the prognosticators,

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Speaker 2: that depends.

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Speaker 3: On what she gets leaked out of buildings in some

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Speaker 3: degree and some of it. They want you to know.

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Speaker 2: Guys don't get moved up and down a great you

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Speaker 2: on team boards. No, they have a good idea of

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Speaker 2: where they have these guys, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Again, like maybe the Steelers through

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Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl combine process, there's more d lineman than

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Speaker 3: we even thought, like this guy better than I did,

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Speaker 3: right right, Yeah, absolutely, but they're slight adjustments. It's not

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Speaker 3: fifth round ers turn in the first round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're not seeing guys. He's a big riser

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Speaker 2: up the board. No, he's a big riser up your.

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Speaker 3: Board because you didn't know about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, because you didn't watch all the tape.

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Speaker 3: Five hundred guys to analyze name Scott.

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Speaker 2: Quite frankly, there's so much group think out there. Whoever

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Speaker 3: Mean Kiper even says that on his podcast, or I

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Speaker 3: mean Daniel Jeremiah if he puts someone in the top fifty, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I had him better bump him up, right right. There's

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Speaker 3: so much there's a lot of group thinking. So he

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Speaker 3: has he still has Travis Hunter at number one. He

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Speaker 2: He has Abdul Carter at two, Okay, Ashton Genty at three, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: He's a good football player. But the tape is good. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: don't think he's If gent's three, he's not putting a

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Speaker 2: He put out pure This is what he has Will Campbell,

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Speaker 3: He's a good player. He's a good player too, right right,

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Speaker 3: he has Shamar Stewart at six. I don't understand it,

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Speaker 3: but I understand it. Yeah, I mean it's not a

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Speaker 3: heavy top draft. He's got tons of ability, the traits

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Speaker 3: and m guys coaches would say, give me him all

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Speaker 3: hell traits and right, right right, Mason can make the

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Speaker 3: argument he's the best tackle in the draft.

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Speaker 2: He has Mason Graham at eight. Okay, he's not my

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Speaker 3: I'm not super impressed either. He was my number one,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think he's a special player at all. No.

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Speaker 2: At nine, he as Malachi Starks, the safety.

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Speaker 3: A quality player. Right. It's funny a lot of people

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, that make Starks worse. I mean, again,

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Speaker 3: Some of these guys don't even know. Most of these

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Speaker 2: He has a Barron cornerback out of Texas.

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Speaker 3: I love him. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The only knock on him is he got short arms. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: They stretch these kids a little bit. At eleven, Kenneth Grant.

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Speaker 3: I don't blame you. I think he's way freakier than

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Speaker 2: At twelve, Arml Membo, the offensive lineman in Missouri.

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Speaker 3: I'm super impressed with him too. I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: Test Tyler Warren at sixteen, fair Cameron Ward seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Jaylen Walker out of Georgia at eighteen, Gihad Campbell out

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Speaker 3: No mine either. I heard some rumblings they think he's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when all the other guys were running

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Speaker 3: He didn't look that way. As I watched more Ohio

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Speaker 3: Fast, Yeah, thirty eight yards and downhill at twenty one.

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Speaker 3: He is Nick Scourton, little rich for rich for me.

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Speaker 2: Now he is a pure edge. He's back to what

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Speaker 2: he was produce Texas.

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Speaker 3: A and M didn't do any favors at all. They

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Speaker 3: never do. They never do. All these guys either.

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Speaker 2: When they go to Texas, A and M they have

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Speaker 3: But A and M also pays huge nils because they're

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Speaker 2: Josh Connerley, the offensive tackle out of Oregon at twenty two,

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Speaker 2: Matthew Golden twenty three, the wide receiver out of Texas.

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Speaker 3: I would take him over a boot all day. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Kelvin Banks Junior, the offensive tackle out of Texas at

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Speaker 3: I didn't really know where to put him in my

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Speaker 3: he's good in protection, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: Nick Amuari at twenty five, the safety out of South Carolina.

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Speaker 3: It's a guy you'd love to see go in the

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Speaker 2: Quinn Shawn Jenkins, Wow at twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: That's a second running back.

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Speaker 2: That's a second running back.

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Speaker 3: I understand it. I prefer Hampton, but I'm a Jenkins believer. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Booker, the guard out of Alabama at twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Quality Football takes the ball away. He's big on the safeties. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Teto McMillan, the wide receiver out of Arizona at thirty two.

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Speaker 3: I understand him being that low. I don't think he's

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Speaker 3: I like him, I don't love him.

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Speaker 2: He's big, he makes plays, but he's not gonna run

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Speaker 3: No, he's not.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. I don't know if we've talked enough about him.

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Speaker 3: I think he's a six year player. I know he's

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Speaker 3: He's total freak. Yeah, I mean, but he's also a

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Speaker 2: Thirty six Luther Burden, the wide receiver out of Missouri, Okay.

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Speaker 3: That's what he is to me. Yeah, I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: Thirty eight elecaymanor why receiver out of Stanford.

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Speaker 3: He was my fifth one, but I had a tough

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Speaker 2: Thirty nine Maxwell Harston, the cornerback out of Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: Nobody can say what it is. Yeah, I know, I'd

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Speaker 3: He's not the only one on here that's had off field.

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Speaker 2: He's the he's the poster guy for leaving Texas A

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Speaker 3: Is that where he started.

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Speaker 2: He started at Texas A and M is the number

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Speaker 2: way more production at Ole Miss than he had his

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Speaker 3: His first two years. It's not uncommon for this class.

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Speaker 3: But if you look at his low light tape, it's like,

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Speaker 3: what's this guy doing? But if you look at his

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Speaker 3: the place, but with Cam Hayward put his arm around

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Speaker 2: know that he's just a slot now. He was just

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Speaker 3: He was my fifth what he was my just missed. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Forty four James Pierce edge rusher out of Tennessee. Another

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Combine is pretty impressive too.

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Speaker 2: Forty five Alfred Collins, the defensive lineman from Texas.

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Speaker 2: Forty six Tileek Williams out of Ohio State the other

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Speaker 2: Forty seven is Mason Taylor, the tight end out of LSU.

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Speaker 2: Forty eight Benjamin Morrison, cornerback out of Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Forty nine Andrew mccuba safety out of Texas.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, fifty Gray's Abel the offensive lineman from North

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Speaker 3: Someone like mccuba. It won't happen for the Steelers. But

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Speaker 2: Fifty one Elijah Rojo, a tight end out of Miami.

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Speaker 2: Fifty two Jack Betch wide receiver from TCU.

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Speaker 3: He could be a Steeler, be fine with that.

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Speaker 2: Fifty three Darius Alexander, defensive lineman from Toledo.

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Speaker 2: Like fifty four t J. Sanders defensive lemon out of

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Speaker 3: I don't really know. Yeah, fifteen put a lot of

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Speaker 2: Fifty six is Tate Ratledge out of Georgia.

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Speaker 3: He was my fifth interior guy.

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Speaker 2: Fifty seven Treveon Henderson probably have him higher. Running back

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Speaker 3: Marion Hampton didn't imagined, yeah right. Fifty eight j T.

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Speaker 2: Two maloa ed rusher out of Ohio State. Fifty nine

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Speaker 3: I think he'll go pretty high.

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Speaker 2: Sixty one Jaylen Noel the other Iowa state wagers here.

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Speaker 3: I'd take you guys. They're different, but i'll take either one.

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Speaker 2: Omar Norman Lott defensive lemon out of Tennessee at sixty two,

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Speaker 2: Ashton Jillette, ed rusher out of Lousville at sixty three.

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Speaker 2: Sixty four is Jonas s Iavania offensive lineman from Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Danny Stutzman at sixty five, the linebacker from Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: Not many pure linebackers there really aren't.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why he's not like a lot of

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Speaker 3: I don't either. So all these teams resigned their linebackers. Well,

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Speaker 2: Sixty six is Demetrius Knight, the linebacker out of South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Sixty seven is Marcus Bau, offensive lineman from Purdue.

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Speaker 3: He missed my top five, but was in the In

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Speaker 2: Sixty eight Caleb Johnson, running back out of Iowa.

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Speaker 3: Hampton should be way. I mean, I'm not getting what

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on. Isn't like Hampton.

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Speaker 2: Sixty nine is Xavier Rostreppo.

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Speaker 3: That's a good football player too. Yeah, I mean he's

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Speaker 2: Seventy is Brayden Swinson, the edge rusher out of LSU.

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Speaker 3: People really like him as a potential second rounder.

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Speaker 2: Seventy one is Osi Trapo, offensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: To be so higher than that just because he's a

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Speaker 2: Anthony Belton is at seventy two, the offensive tackle from

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Speaker 2: seventy three, he could be a Steeler. Shamar Turner, the

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Speaker 2: other defensive lineman from A and M. Seventy five is

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Speaker 2: a Zeri A Thomas, cornerback out of Florida State.

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Speaker 3: Seventy six Bay Shell Tuton. Did I miss Amario and Hampton.

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Speaker 3: I had that. There's no way he's not in the

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Speaker 3: top seven running backs. Maybe he's really high. Did I

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Speaker 3: miss him up top? I gotta look here now, Maybe

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Speaker 3: Kyle missed him. Maybe you know, sometimes you build lists

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Speaker 2: I read through this the other day and I didn't

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Speaker 2: That doesn't make much screwed up? Did I skip over

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Speaker 2: later here I just missed it. Maybe he hates him

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Speaker 2: or maybe missed him, really really hate him? Right, I

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Speaker 2: can't believe he's running back seven or eight?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Oh, there he is at sixty.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we did we get.

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Speaker 2: After Land and Jackson? There was an ad in there

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Speaker 3: Okay, but still that's late. That's very late, right, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where we at here? At seventy we're at seventy

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Speaker 2: one now or no, I'm sorry. Bachelle Touton at seventy six.

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Speaker 2: Running back out of Virginia Tech, Donovan Jackson, the offensive

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Speaker 2: seventy eight, Okay, Jordan Burtch the other edge rusher out

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Speaker 3: Eighty one, cold off. There's a lot of buzz him

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Speaker 2: Trey Harris is at eighty one, wide receiver aut of Mississippi,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Canard, edg rusher out of South Carolina at eighty two,

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Speaker 2: Cameron William at eighty four, the offensive lineman out of Texas.

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Speaker 2: Chase Lunt, the offensive lineman at a Yukon at eighty five.

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Speaker 3: Lunt and Grant seemed like the projects. Yeah, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey bassa Is at eighty seven, a linebacker at Oregon.

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Speaker 2: Dylan Sampson, the running back out of Tennessee at eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty crazy that that guys like the ninth running back. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Eighty nine is Kobe Bryant, the cornerback out of Kansas,

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Speaker 2: not a bad player. And ninety is Jackson Dart quarterback

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Speaker 2: at a Miss, oh Miss.

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Speaker 3: No shock, no other quarterbacks, I get it.

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Speaker 2: At ninety one is he who shall not be named.

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Speaker 2: We're not allowed to talk about him anymore, but there

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Speaker 2: he is. Ninety one because that's a lot of the people. Well,

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Speaker 2: everybody has him ranked down in the one six you know,

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Speaker 2: one fifty year below. Why do you guys keep talking

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ninety two perfect Latham Ransom safety out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Ninety three has Gunner Helm tight end out of Texas.

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Speaker 3: Combay didn't do him a favor, no.

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Speaker 2: Ninety four Jalen Royals wide receiver at of Utah State.

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Speaker 3: I have him higher.

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Speaker 2: Ninety five Billy Bowman safety out of Oklahoma.

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Speaker 3: Short, but does a lot of good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Ninety six Kevin Winston junior safety out of Penn State.

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Speaker 3: He seems to getting more and more heat too. People

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Speaker 2: Ninety seven is saving on Williams, the wide receiver at

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Speaker 2: Ninety nine is ty Felton, wide receiver out of Maryland,

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Speaker 2: and one hundred is Miles Frasier, guard out of LSU.

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Speaker 3: Kind of did okay a tackle at Senia Bowl two.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, guard, just some other nameser will hit on some.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea where he's gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Josh Farmer all the way down at one oh five,

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Speaker 2: the defensive lineman at of Florida.

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Speaker 3: State didn't There's a couple of noses he hasn't mentioned

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Speaker 2: West Damian Martinez at one oh eight, the running back

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Speaker 2: out of Miami, one spot ahead of Well.

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Speaker 3: Actually, the next three picture.

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Speaker 2: You have Martinez, Scatibo, Devin Neil at one eight, one nine,

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Speaker 3: Scatibo be my pick of those three. Yeah, who else

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Speaker 2: My man Jackson Hawes, the tight end from Georgia Tech,

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Speaker 2: is at one sixteen. I think people are sleeping on

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Speaker 3: He's a killer. He is a monster. He's a He

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Speaker 3: put him in Washington on the field together.

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Speaker 2: He just he's he's the bouncer that comes in. He

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. He is nasty and huge. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He was my sleeper tight end. Mine was Lache kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got let's see here. Dylan Gabriel at one

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Speaker 3: I'm not real excited about him.

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Speaker 2: No, neither of my Emery Jones at one twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I know he'd getting him later in some Marck drafts.

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Speaker 2: Ali Gordon at won twenty six. Wyatt Millam, who was

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Speaker 3: It low for him. He's guard. He's a guard, Yeah

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Speaker 2: DJ Giddens, the running back out of k State, is

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Speaker 3: Really good, combine them, they're still he.

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Speaker 2: Just start playing football till junior year in high school.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if he's a kickoff returner right off the

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Speaker 3: see what he does. Yet. Burchard Smith, the running back,

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Speaker 3: that guy might lead the preseason in yardage. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: Bursard Smith, the running back out of SMU is at

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 2: You got Mitchell Evans at one thirty six, the tight

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Speaker 2: end at of Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Not bad, a good football player.

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Speaker 2: Cal McCord at one thirty seven, quarterback out of Syracy.

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Speaker 3: You can see him lasting a long time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, jj Pegas the nose tackle out of Ole Miss

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Speaker 2: at one. They haven't had any more visits since that.

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Speaker 2: They have not kind of tied up with what's going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Noel Williams the cornerback out of count one forty three,

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Speaker 2: followed by Mellow dots In the cornerback out of Kansas

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Speaker 2: at one forty four.

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Speaker 3: Williams is interesting to me. Yeah, I might have to

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Speaker 3: do a little more dots in homework. But Williams in

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Speaker 3: the fourth or fifth round. Yeah, okay, you know.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you got will Howard at one forty seven.

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Speaker 3: I bet he goes earlier than that. Probably. I bet

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Speaker 3: he's a raider.

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Speaker 2: He's one hundred and fiftieth ranked player. Diane Walker, defensive

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Speaker 2: tackle out of Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: That's about what he is. That is what he is. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean he looks great, he is. He's on all

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Speaker 2: Early for Daniel mccullor's right, that's what he is.

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Speaker 3: Did stand up straight.

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Speaker 2: I watched a lot of Daniel mccullors. Yeah, for four

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Speaker 3: There's a rep here in that's that's who Diane Walker is. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean like mccullor's, there's a rep here in there.

441
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Speaker 3: He'll take a center of guard and do whatever he

442
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Speaker 3: wants with them, and then there's seven in a row

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Speaker 3: where he just stands up and stands there.

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Speaker 2: I'd still I'd have I'd have Ty Robinson ready ahead

445
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Speaker 2: of him, out of West ahead of him.

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Speaker 3: I've had West ahead of them. There's other notes all

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Speaker 3: thinking of. But he'd be pretty low on my nose list,

448
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Speaker 3: no doubt. If we do it, like I said, top

449
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Speaker 3: five noses, there's no chance he's even I wouldn't consider

450
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Speaker 3: diom Walker until the seventh round. Six was about where

451
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say in a draft like this.

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Speaker 2: And okay, hey, Carl Dunbar, here's your project.

453
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Speaker 3: Project. Keep him fresh, don't let him go. No huddle

454
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Speaker 3: when he's out there, get two good reps out of him,

455
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Speaker 3: get him out of the game.

456
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Speaker 2: Teach him how to keep his pad level right below

457
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Speaker 2: seven feet.

458
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Speaker 3: You're in charge of stopping push pushes. You know, give

459
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Speaker 3: me one good rep, but you're probably still too high.

460
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Speaker 3: They can't go there. No, he's not gonna give you anything.

461
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Speaker 3: Been there and done that. Yeah, he's not even give

462
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Speaker 3: you anything to pass rush. No, No, not at all passes.

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Speaker 2: But it's a little different list than some of the

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Speaker 2: other ones we've let it is it is. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 2: give Kyle credit. He didn't there's nothing could work the

466
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Speaker 2: group think, wasn't there.

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Speaker 3: No, No, he does his own work. He pounds the tape.

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Speaker 3: He's a hardworking dude. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So anyways, let's get to another break. That's our little

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Speaker 2: talk about the draft today. He is Matt Williamson. I

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Speaker 2: am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be back

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Speaker 2: with more right after this.

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Speaker 3: At least.

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Speaker 2: people did in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday was popular accounts, and we appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead leave your comments there and I try to

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Speaker 2: get through those couple of times a day at least

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Speaker 2: to answer some questions.

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Speaker 3: I meant the double check yesterday. I'm sure there was

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Speaker 3: a bunch about wolf you know, yeah, I'm sure there was.

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Speaker 3: Did a phenomenal job of introducing yesterday's show and sad stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, not not not the way you want to

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Speaker 2: start your week. No, not the way you want to

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Speaker 2: start any day really, but it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: That was just kind of surprise out of the blue. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not great in many ways.

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Speaker 3: So the Steelers did make a come to an agreement

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Speaker 3: yesterday after our show ended with the linebacker Malik Harrison

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Speaker 3: of the Baltimore Ravens inside linebacker two year deal reportedly,

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Speaker 3: and with Hut the door on Roberts did that and

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Speaker 3: maybe right, but they're kind of a direct replacement and

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Speaker 3: Matty Kaevich Wow, okay, yeah, yeah, you kind of killed

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Speaker 3: two birds of Ones.

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Speaker 2: And Landon Roberts and Tyler Matta Kaevich were both headed

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Speaker 2: into free agency, so you both are on the wrong

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Speaker 2: side of thirty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I would have loved to have a land of Roberts back.

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Speaker 3: They also have a lot of wear and tear on

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Speaker 3: their bodies. Yeah, the way that they play, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know the one's going to be in the

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Speaker 3: league a whole lot longer.

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Speaker 2: So what the Steelers did with the Malik Harrison signing

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Speaker 2: is both they replaced two guys with one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it, especially

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Speaker 3: with Hulkam in the mix. Now, you know, like I've

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Speaker 3: said this a thousand times on these airwaves, her Big

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Speaker 3: and Roberts are my two that I wanted to bring back, right,

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Speaker 3: and I think they'd be super expensive. Her Big still

521
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Speaker 3: out there as an interior O lineman. But this makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot of people were disappointed that I

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Speaker 3: got from Twitter. Oh man, they missed out on Roberts,

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Speaker 3: Steelers screwed up. Yeah, I would love to have them back.

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Speaker 3: But to your point, this does kind of kill two

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Speaker 3: birds with one stone. If Holcomb's truly your three, which

527
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Speaker 3: I is a way I look at it now. Yeah,

528
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Speaker 3: he's an more athletic version than any of the guys

529
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Speaker 3: were talking about, which is the modern day inside linebacker.

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Speaker 3: Grison from what I remember, I think he came to

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Speaker 3: Ohio State as an edge guy and he's six six three,

532
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Speaker 3: two fifty's big. He is a big dude, bumper downhill, physical,

533
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Speaker 3: AFC north dude. And you mentioned it off the air.

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Speaker 3: He's way more And that's the Mattic Cavis saying way

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Speaker 3: more accomplished on special teams right now.

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Speaker 2: He has never played fewer than two hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: eight special team snaps in his career. That's a ton

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Speaker 2: of and he's been over three hundred eats of the

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Speaker 2: last three years.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to do not that make special team snap

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Speaker 3: over the course of a game. I mean, he's a core,

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Speaker 3: core special teamer, so it makes sense. I mean, you're younger,

543
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Speaker 3: about the same athleticism, maybe a little bit better. He's

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Speaker 3: not a he's not Ryan Shazer running around.

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Speaker 2: But I think what they looked at here is you

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Speaker 2: had two linebackers on your roster in Mediicavis and Roberts,

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Speaker 2: both of who were were on the wrong side of thirty. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you have Hulcom coming back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The one problem that the Steelers did have, well, they

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Speaker 2: had two problems last year on special ty games and

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Speaker 2: they both involved kickoffs. Their kick returning was not great. No, no,

553
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Speaker 2: their kick return coverage was not great. So yeah, they

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Speaker 2: would give some stuff up. The league is looking at

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Speaker 2: moving the kickoffs back five yards to make it even

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Speaker 2: more kicks challenging and more we want more kicks return.

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Speaker 2: If that's the case, you better have big, fast guys

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Speaker 2: that can get off blocks and get to the ballcarrier.

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Speaker 3: That are used to it as well. Yeah, and from

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Speaker 3: what I remember, Roberts was not a special teamer. No,

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Speaker 3: I mean, yes, he's active on game day. But if

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Speaker 3: if you would bring Roberts back, let's say it was

563
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Speaker 3: Roberts instead of Harrison. Okay, maybe you're better on defense,

564
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Speaker 3: but he's your fourth guy, and he's only really a

565
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Speaker 3: rundown player, even if he's your third guy, even if

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Speaker 3: he's a third guy. Against the Ravens, you've got Holm here, like,

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Speaker 3: you're fine, Yeah, you're fine.

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Speaker 2: One of those two guys is going to have to

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Speaker 2: play special teams, right, or one of them might have

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Speaker 2: to be an active right, or they're going to be

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Speaker 2: an active if a matter case is your special or

572
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Speaker 2: someone like Mark Robinson, and it might it might have

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Speaker 2: been a situation where they looked at this and said, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what's our schedule look like next year?

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Speaker 3: Who do we play? Okay? The teams that were playing.

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Speaker 3: These teams are all a bunch of eleven personnel teams. Okay,

577
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Speaker 3: so we're and I assume Peyton Wilson's going to play

578
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Speaker 3: even more snap.

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Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson is going to play more snaps.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no matter what. And so that to me, I

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Speaker 3: wonder if Wilson and Queen are your every down linebacker. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: basically period.

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Speaker 2: I loved Roberts, I do love him, no knock on him,

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Speaker 2: but I don't want him playing at the expense of

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Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson.

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Speaker 3: And that's what happened. Is a rookie, Yeah, the big pack.

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Speaker 3: I want Peyton Wilson to take that next step and

588
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Speaker 3: be out there all the time. And I think Holcome's good. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he's your third linebacker, you're in really

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Speaker 3: good shape.

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Speaker 2: And to be quite frank, the move that the main

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Speaker 2: move one of the two moves the Ravens made two

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Speaker 2: moves at mid season when their defense got better. The

594
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Speaker 2: one was a Hamilton Hamilton around, they move Hamilton back

595
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Speaker 2: to free safety. The other move they put Malik Harrison

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Speaker 2: in the starting lineup.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they took Throom Simpson out.

599
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Speaker 3: Simpson's just running around like a chicken and.

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Speaker 2: Put Harrison in there because he knew what he was doing.

601
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Speaker 2: They trusted him. He did again, nothing, nothing spectacular, but

602
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Speaker 2: he didn't make mistakes.

603
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Speaker 3: He wasn't Ray Lewis, but he screw up and he

604
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Speaker 3: knew his assignment and allowed Roquan to be Rokwan. And

605
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Speaker 3: there's a ripple effect there. Trust factor. No, I get it.

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Speaker 3: And he knows the Ravens and he knows the division.

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Speaker 2: You also hurt the Ravens by taking him away. They

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Speaker 2: lost Chris Board too, was yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Also Chris Board and Malik Harrison were their two most

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Speaker 2: the two guys that played the most special team snaps

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Speaker 2: for them last year.

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Speaker 3: And that's the cost of signing Stanley, you know, right, No,

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people were disappointed, and I

615
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Speaker 3: totally understand why. I get it.

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Speaker 2: I love a Landon Roberts soon. Landon Roberts is one

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Speaker 2: of my favorite guys all time. To talk to in

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Speaker 2: the locker room, I bet.

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Speaker 3: Because he was just blind my list back on backers too. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean he blows people apart, but you know, at

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Speaker 3: some points you do have to look at the and

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Speaker 3: I didn't look at his contract versus Harrison. I think

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Speaker 3: they're closed. They're within a million or yeh in a minute,

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Speaker 3: but you might think about game day. I mean, if

625
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 3: if they're top three or Holcombe, Wilson, Queen, they're all active, right,

626
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: Roberts would be active. But if he's not helping on

627
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Speaker 3: special teams, you've.

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Speaker 2: Taken a spot away from another position, right that you

629
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Speaker 2: might need, and then you're keeping them out a case

630
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Speaker 2: you have to keep you have to keep Mark Robinson

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Speaker 2: around and he has to be he has to be

632
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Speaker 2: active because he's a special teams linebacker.

633
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Speaker 3: One of the highest special teams out there as much.

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Speaker 2: I like Tyler Madikaevitch as well, but you couldn't bring

635
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Speaker 2: him back.

636
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Speaker 3: And then you can't bring him back at his age

637
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: and he's only does one thing for it. Yeah, I mean,

638
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 3: like you can't even get out of a game with

639
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: him at this point as a linebacker. He just that

640
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: that's just not what you can do.

641
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: So you've got younger at the position, you've got a

642
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Speaker 2: guy who, Hey, if something happens here, this guy's gonna

643
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Speaker 2: step in and start to be fine and be fine. Yeah, yeah,

644
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: and yeah, he's going to be a core special teams

645
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: guy in an era where I think special teams are

646
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Speaker 2: going to start to mean more.

647
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Speaker 3: Again, it's a good point about to kickoff if if

648
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Speaker 3: people aren't just blasting out of the end zone, you're

649
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: going to cover kicks and you got to return kicks.

650
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Speaker 2: It was. It was one of their big buggaboos late

651
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: in the season last year because they didn't have to

652
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: do it early in the year, right, And then when

653
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: they did start kicking it and teams started returning it,

654
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Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, there's a return out to

655
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Speaker 2: the fifty, return to the four, Like can't have those.

656
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Speaker 3: And can't have those. So no, it adds up. And

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Speaker 3: I think we, especially you laid it out well in

658
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Speaker 3: the segment that that's how NFL teams think, that's how

659
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Speaker 3: coaches think. I got to build my best guys on

660
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Speaker 3: game day and make guys that can do more than

661
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Speaker 3: one thing have a lot of value.

662
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Speaker 2: Like, for example, late late last year, Mike Tomlins making

663
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Speaker 2: decisions about do I keep your playing a game against whoever,

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Speaker 2: I don't care who it is.

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Speaker 3: Well, do I have Dean Lowry active?

666
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Speaker 2: I can't because even though I'd like to have him active,

667
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: but I can't because I've only got one inside backer

668
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: right who plays special.

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Speaker 3: Team Who's special teams, So I have to have that guy,

670
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Speaker 3: or I.

671
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Speaker 2: Gotta have Tyler Matakaevich and Mark Robinson. I don't want

672
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Speaker 2: to play defense with either one of them. Yeah, but

673
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Speaker 2: I got to have him active. I'm much right, Dean

674
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Speaker 2: Lowry's going to play more defensive snaps for me just

675
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Speaker 2: because but I can't have him active because I got

676
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Speaker 2: to have these two guys active, play special teams.

677
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again or even it's a that's the way

678
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Speaker 3: you get. Coaches have to look at it, especially a

679
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: head guy like who are my best dudes? If everyone's

680
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: healthy and I know there's been a lot of stretches

681
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Speaker 3: during the year in November and December that they're not

682
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: and a guy that can do a couple is super

683
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Speaker 3: valuable or I mean people were Preston Smith was inactive, right,

684
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Speaker 3: and I was trying to think, you're big and active.

685
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Speaker 2: Corey Trice the week after they played the Bengals and

686
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Speaker 2: he started the game. Corey Trace is inactive because he

687
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Speaker 2: was like, I don't play special team.

688
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Speaker 3: Play special teams. And again, Preston Smith, maybe he would

689
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Speaker 3: have been active the game he wasn't. Or maybe Roman

690
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Speaker 3: Wilson gets a hat one of those.

691
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Speaker 2: Games, right, you know, because the way you're lying, you

692
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: have you have an extra spot now because you've gotten

693
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Speaker 2: a guy who basically kills, Yeah, does two things I can.

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Speaker 3: He's really good on teams. He'sna be out there for everyone.

695
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 3: And if I have to get him in the game

696
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 3: on defense, cool, I'm good. I'm fine with you. Right,

697
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: that's why he's on him. Yeah, and unfortunately a popular

698
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: dude like Roberts suffered because of it, or I don't know,

699
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Speaker 3: maybe he signed first.

700
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Speaker 2: The other factor is if you're going to play Peyton

701
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Speaker 2: Wilson Moore, but you should, which you should, you're not

702
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Speaker 2: going to use him on special teams last, Yeah, maybe

703
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: he's a fifty percent special teams guy instead of playing

704
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Speaker 2: ninety percent of the snaps.

705
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you might not want him running down on kickoffs

706
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: and then playing eleven snaps a row on defense, right,

707
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: all right?

708
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's that's a factor as well. Yeah, again,

709
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: there's more to the building a roster. This isn't Madden

710
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: where it's.

711
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: Not college where you get a million scholarships. You know,

712
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 3: they got tons of guys on the sidelines, and all

713
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: these guys have to get their jersey dirty in factor

714
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Speaker 3: in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 2: Fatigue is a factor. If I'm running down on the

716
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Speaker 2: kickoff to your point, and then I got to go

717
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: out and run play defense, well that's not the best

718
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: the best plan.

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Speaker 3: Well, everyone on the planet knows it. Like Wilson ran

720
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Speaker 3: down on kickoffs. Let's detach him against the slot receiver

721
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: and run forty yards.

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00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: Let's run the running back on a wheel route and

723
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Speaker 2: see if you can keep up.

724
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Speaker 3: Exactly, have him down field.

725
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: He just ran one hundred yards where you just had

726
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: back to back kickoff. There was a penalty on the

727
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: first one. You had to kick it again. Now he's twice.

728
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Speaker 3: Why do you guys have headsets? Yeah right, they're pretty

729
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 3: smart there, pretty smart about it for the most part.

730
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: But no, I mean it's a it's a minor move,

731
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: but it's worth analyzing. Yeah, I mean, when you look

732
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: at it again, you have to even like McCullum on

733
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 3: an exclusive right steal. That's an important little move. He's

734
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Speaker 3: your backup center. Or the Metcalf trade. You took a

735
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: seventh and turned it into a six. They're little moves.

736
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Speaker 3: They matter, they matter, they matter, they add up. You

737
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: know you only got to hit once on one of those.

738
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Speaker 3: Just give me one more role to die. Yeah, it's

739
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: it's all about the you know, thinking beyond just the

740
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Speaker 3: move itself. Give me a little something extra.

741
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Speaker 2: Every move means something else I make right. One of

742
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Speaker 2: the things you always say is that teams show you

743
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Speaker 2: what they're thinking by the moves that they.

744
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Speaker 3: That's why I love a side of the ear. Yeah,

745
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,239
Speaker 3: right right. They tell you what their strengths and weaknesses are.

746
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: Money and roster moves don't lie. And I think draft

747
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: is very telling.

748
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Speaker 2: I think the Steelers looked at this and said our

749
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: special teams was not great.

750
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: Last year started great on that and that everything else

751
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: was like punch com challenged more return. All that stuff

752
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: was great. Punt blocks of our kick coverage. Our kickoff

753
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: coverage was not good, and it got worse as he's

754
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: went on. And it might be more challenging in twenty

755
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: twenty five than it wasn't twenty twenty four. Yeah, if

756
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: you gotta run five more yards, there's gona be more returns.

757
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: That's what the league wants. That's what the league's going

758
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: to get.

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00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: And we talked about this a time. You brought up

760
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: over and over in Latrobe last year. Okay, maybe teams

761
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Speaker 3: aren't even kick it out of the end zone, but

762
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Speaker 3: in December, are they right in Buffalo or in Green Bay?

763
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Speaker 2: You know, we saw it more, you know, and again.

764
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: And you have to take a look at the schedule. Yeah,

765
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: see who you're playing next year. You don't know when

766
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna play them yet, but you know who's on

767
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: the schedule. You know where you have to go?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think a bunch of games, do

769
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Speaker 3: you r Yeah.

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00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: You have to look at it and say, okay, worst

771
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Speaker 2: case scenario, we got to go to Chicago, or we

772
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Speaker 2: got to go to you know wherever you know you

773
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Speaker 2: have that could end up being in December.

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Speaker 3: You know, your three North Road games every year, and

775
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: last year's showed they like to play them late in

776
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: the season. That's not the sunny Cleveland game and Week two, No, boy,

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Speaker 3: I'd like that to be the case, wouldn't that be

778
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 3: a nice one on I don't know if I've ever

779
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: got on a Thursday.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever been to Cleveland when

781
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Speaker 2: it's been nice.

782
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's ever nice there. That could

783
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Speaker 3: be the Oh that's kind of where I'm wrong with this.

784
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: I don't think it's ever sunny in Cleveland.

785
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a show It's always sunny in Philadelphia, It's

786
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: never sunny in Cleveland.

787
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 3: Maybe that we could write that show My buddy that

788
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 3: was from Atlanta that we got hired at the same time.

789
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 3: It was like, is it I just want to go

790
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 3: like hit golf balls or go to the batting cage

791
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: or something. I'm like, it'll be a month or two.

792
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 3: He'll be fine by your standard as if someone who

793
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 3: grew up in Atlanta and yeah, the southern fella. Yeah,

794
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's not gonna be a whole lot of

795
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: that over here.

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00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: One time we were up there in September and it

797
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: was like seventy ish degrees or more decent, but the

798
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 2: wind was blowing like twenty five miles an hour.

799
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Speaker 3: I'd love just to not be a road game on

800
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: a short week. That would be good Thursday night that

801
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 3: would be good. Maybe they can flip that this year. Yeah,

802
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 3: we'll see.

803
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Speaker 2: Anyways, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

805
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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.

806
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Speaker 3: We will be back with more right after this. At least.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson and Matt

812
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Speaker 2: I'm looking here at Tom Brady's final season in New England.

813
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: This is Tom Brady we're talking about. I know, I

814
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 3: never we're going with this.

815
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: He completed sixty point eight percent of his passes. Yeah,

816
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 2: that was a career lo other than his rookie well know,

817
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: I guess his two thousand and three season he was

818
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: at sixty point two. That was a long time ago,

819
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: long time ago. Sixty point eight percent of his passes

820
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: for just over four thousand.

821
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: Yards his final season in New England. Yeah, twenty four touchdowns,

822
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: eight interceptions. There was maybe a two years before that,

823
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 3: where should we trade Garoppolo or Brady? Yeah, you know,

824
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: and I think ownership wanted to trade Brady and Belichick

825
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: stuck up for him. Yeah. He then goes to Tampa

826
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: the next year in a better situation, more weapons, whole deal.

827
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: Throws for forty touchdowns with twelve interceptions completed, sixty five

828
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: point seven percent of his pass is forty six hundred yards. Yeah,

829
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 3: he was forty three years old. I mean that's freaky stuff.

830
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 3: And he's an anomally.

831
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: He's a generational talent, right in terms of that, who

832
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 2: else is a generational talent?

833
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: The guy from the Jets? Right in terms of first

834
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 3: ballot Hall of famers, you know, like Wilson's had a

835
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 3: great career, he ain't Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I mean just

836
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: in terms of career, there's no in.

837
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: Terms of five In terms of athleticism, right, Aaron Rodgers

838
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: is a far better athlete than Tom Brady, No, far better.

839
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

840
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if they threw the ball, you watched him

841
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: throw the ball at they're prime in their prime.

842
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 3: In terms of talent, they're not even close, right, Rogers

843
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: is one of the best passers of football ever. Yeah,

844
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: and again one of Brady's biggest back to back MVP.

845
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he still flashes but one of Brady's biggest

846
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: superpowers was above the microprocessor in his head.

847
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the avocado toast and him and

848
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 3: Giselle on the French rivi Era and he's putting shoulder

849
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: pads on to practice, and he's pretty anybody else had that,

850
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: you know. It's pretty dread that that gets you to

851
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: forty three easier than anyone else, maybe in history. I

852
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: there aren't a lot of quarterback options here. No, And

853
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: if it's Rogers versus Wilson or Rogers versus anyone, he

854
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 3: can still play. He's not what he used to be.

855
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: He finished the season really strong. It had a really

856
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: bad injury that he recovered from. It might be a disaster.

857
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 3: He's obviously a very personable fellow, you know. And it

858
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 3: could go off the tracks in a heartbeat. But it

859
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: could be good. It could be good. It could be good.

860
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: But I would have some ground rules. Yeah, I mean,

861
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: he can still flick his wrist and it's a forty

862
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: yard on the numbers, throw over the middle in cutting Metcalf.

863
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: To a streaking DK Metcalf, would you right where George

864
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: Pickens just go up and be big George.

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Speaker 3: Now I've thought about this too. Rogers is going to

866
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: probably have some ground rules too, you know, like sure

867
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: he doesn't like receivers that aren't exactly where they're supposed

868
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: to be at the right time, much like Brady much

869
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 3: you know, and Metcalf and pickings can drift and aren't

870
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: exactly DeVante Adams in terms of sharpness and things like that.

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00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: Well there again, if that's what you want, Aaron, you

872
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: better come.

873
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: To say, you better take over.

874
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: Let these guys there where you want.

875
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 3: Them and tell them exactly where they be, or they

876
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 3: don't get the ball right because we're not spend his history.

877
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 2: Devanta Adams isn't walking through the door like last year.

878
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

879
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: We're not bringing in all your buddies from from Green

880
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: Bay like when they get cut by the Jets.

881
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: It's not Randall Cobb here or you know, I Meanlizard.

882
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe he has a little left, but we're

883
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: not bringing in all your bodies to be in the

884
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: right place and all that stuff. But you need us

885
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 3: and we need you. Could be good, could be good,

886
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 3: could be a disaster, but it could be good, could

887
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 3: be good. But it would never prohibit you from drafting

888
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 3: a guy, No, not one bit nor would Wilson. I mean,

889
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: if those are the two options, you could draft one

890
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 3: that you will adore in the first, second, third, four

891
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 3: to fifth, seventh round this year or next year. Go

892
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: all in for your favorite guy in the draft. I

893
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: like that flexibility. Yeah, you know again, these are the

894
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 3: options we need. None of the options were perfect.

895
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. People are looking at this like

896
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: the Steelers can't like they didn't get Justin Fields. They

897
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 2: can't compete in twenty twenty five.

898
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 3: Like I'm rooting for Fields. I think of all the

899
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 3: quarterback Aaron Rodgers a better player than Justin Fields right now. Yes,

900
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: I mean, that's to me is undeniable. It's undeniable. Russell

901
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 3: Wilson is a better player right now than Justin Fields,

902
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: Gino Smith, Matthew Staff, I mean, all the guys, a

903
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: lot of the dudes on the move. Fields is the

904
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: league told us that a year ago, a year ago,

905
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 3: when he was still available at this time, and you

906
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: didn't trade him until until a week after free agency

907
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: open you traded a six round pick for him. I'm

908
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: sure we'll get calm. He was available the entire time,

909
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 3: especially me. You know you you've changed your tune on fields. No,

910
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: I haven't. I was very enticed by him. I mean,

911
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: I think that he might have a right future. I mean,

912
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: maybe he's the answer, but the chances of it happening

913
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: are probably pretty slim. See, I got the other way.

914
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: You're so rough on justin you pointing out we're here

915
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: to analyze.

916
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't think Rogers anymore now than I

917
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 3: did a month ago. Right, but I'm enticed by him.

918
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: Wilson has his flaws as well, holds the ball too long,

919
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: takes some sacks. You know, those are flaws to the

920
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 2: middle field as much I want.

921
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: But if I've got those two big studs on the outside,

922
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: Wilson's also appealing with those.

923
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: Sets up pretty nicely for those two dudes.

924
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: I mean the moonball. If those are your two moonball guys,

925
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: one of them's gonna be open, one of them is

926
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 3: gonna have a single, single cover, and you know he'll

927
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: let it fly. Yeah. You don't have to throw the

928
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: middle fielder as much with those two, right, you know,

929
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: So I get it either way whichever way they go

930
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: with this, This time tomorrow we might know. I would think.

931
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: This time tomorrow, we will know. I would think, so

932
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: I would think so. I mean, the rumors will be

933
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: flying like crazy tonight and that that will make people

934
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 3: realize tomorrow a lot less antsy than they are right now.

935
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: Then we'll be talking about who's the backup and what

936
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: their next moves are and those type of things, and

937
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: that would be.

938
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: Great, fantastic. Then you can move on to the next

939
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: step and get you know again.

940
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 3: And the one thing I've heard too, and I don't

941
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: quite agree with, is the Steelers are missed out on

942
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: all these free agents because no one's a play here

943
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: because they only the quarterback is. I don't know who

944
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 3: they've been, who is who's that guy there?

945
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: So do you think that before they before they made

946
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: the trade for DK metcalf right, they had no contact

947
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: whatsoever with DK metcalfs and his agents and there, and

948
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: then when the trade was made, they had no contact.

949
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: They made a deal with like as soon as he was.

950
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 3: Like, I would like to know media guys they missed

951
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: out on are?

952
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I guaranty they went to DK metcalfisde

953
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: here's what we're looking at.

954
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: Was Byron Murphy gonna come here? These are the three

955
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: or four guys. No, I don't know who these guys

956
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 3: are that they missed out on because they've been sitting

957
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 3: on their hands doing nothing because they don't have a quarterback.

958
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 3: It's not a league worse, No, it just isn't.

959
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 2: This roster, whether it's Russ or whether it's Aaron Rodgers,

960
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: whichever one they bring, whichever one they decide on, is

961
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: already better than the one that they finished last season

962
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: with once they add the other pieces in there.

963
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, because losing Dante Jackson doesn't. I thought

964
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 3: he was a liability. That doesn't. It was hard on him,

965
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: all yay, that doesn't factor into anything.

966
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: Losing Nausey Harris, as much as he was valuable for you,

967
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: doesn't move the needle all that much.

968
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: And I also think he's a great fit in this

969
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: offense right, all his own stuff. He doesn't have very

970
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: good vision, he's hard to tackle, he's super reliable, he

971
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: had a nice stint here. That's not what I'm looking

972
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 3: for for my next bat. The offensive lineman you lost

973
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: you expected to lose. Oh yeah, yeah, they're all bad.

974
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: They were already it was already in the cards. Like

975
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 3: nothing came out of left field. I mean, there wasn't

976
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: a curveball that you didn't see coming.

977
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: The only spot you don't have a starter at right now,

978
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: assuming that the Darius Slice stuff, there's.

979
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: The corner stuff I'd like to get firmed up to.

980
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,479
Speaker 3: And I wish he was five years younger.

981
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 2: Is replacing Larry Ogunjobi? Yes, yes, yes, yes yeah in

982
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: a great defensive tackle.

983
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: Draft and you're short a second round pick now, yeah,

984
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: thank Granted your draft resources are less and they have

985
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 3: other things they have to address in the draft, but

986
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 3: there's also defensive linemen that are unemployed at the moment too.

987
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: Who will you know there all.

988
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: Of a sudden they start looking around, going I'll take

989
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 2: the four million dollars.

990
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: You know.

991
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: No, they're not done, No, not by a long shot.

992
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: And again, we're just over twenty nine hours into a

993
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: free agency right now, Like it's a little early, a

994
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: little early to start freaking out, start freaking out, and.

995
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: There will be people available right right, We'll see. Anyways,

996
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: that's gonna do it for today's show. Absolutely, your starts

997
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: when we kick off.

998
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: Can't wait, can't wait. But that's gonna do it for

999
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: our show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson, for

1000
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: Justin Miller here on site, running the Justin Miller hotline,

1001
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: and for Tyler Viittmeyer making sure our video gets out

1002
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Speaker 2: there onto YouTube.

1003
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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: We thank you for listening to this edition of the

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