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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. Welcome to Cleveland Brown's daily season review show,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Bally Beck now live in Ohio

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Speaker 1: on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Bowl Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: All right, listen live on the season review show. Merely

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Speaker 2: bow the great z and you know you mean business.

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Speaker 2: Right right in the gates you go to the voice

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Speaker 2: of the Cleveland Browns, the Great Jim Donovan, joining the program.

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Speaker 2: He joins us on the Twisted Tea Hard iced Tea hotline,

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Speaker 2: official sponsor of your Cleveland Browns, Keep it Twisted, Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Before we can review the Browns, we must review how

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Speaker 2: things are going with the Ponies. Yeah, temperate off season

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Speaker 2: for the winner. For the Ponies, I mean they're probably

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Speaker 3: We haven't had that much snow, mister Donovan.

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Speaker 4: No, we haven't. And you say that to a guy

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Speaker 4: that spent about fifteen hundred bucks on a brand new snowblower.

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Speaker 4: I look at it every day and it's beautiful and

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Speaker 4: I look forward to at some point using it. The

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Speaker 4: Ponies are great. The barn is peaceful. Everybody's having a

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Speaker 4: good time. It's a little chilly today, so blankets are on,

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Speaker 4: but the afternoon looks like a very, very peaceful one

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Speaker 4: for them.

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Speaker 3: That is fantastic.

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Speaker 2: This season was anything but I was as we were,

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Speaker 2: I knew we were doing the show, and I was

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Speaker 2: thinking about trying to put this season into perspective. It

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Speaker 2: is unique unto itself. This season, there's like several seasons

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Speaker 2: within the season.

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Speaker 3: Jim.

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Speaker 2: I know all of the things that you went through

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Speaker 2: in your part in all of the season, and you

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Speaker 2: think of all the highs that came with that in

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Speaker 2: the lows, how do you when you try to look

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Speaker 2: back on it, what comes to mind?

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Speaker 3: First?

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Speaker 4: Well, it was you're right, I mean it had I mean, personally,

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Speaker 4: And it was something that I really had to get

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Speaker 4: set straight in my mind, and my great wife Cheryl

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Speaker 4: a horse riding thing. She had a horse that was

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Speaker 4: let's just get to the next tree. When I'm thinking

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Speaker 4: about how far we're going to go, do we just

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Speaker 4: need to get to the next tree. And when you

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Speaker 4: get there, you go to the next tree. And she

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Speaker 4: said to me very early on, when I was pretty

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Speaker 4: bummed out about what my personal situation was and how

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Speaker 4: I was going to miss so much time, she kept saying,

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Speaker 4: you just have to get really to the next tree.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I had to do. And so I

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Speaker 4: had the most unbelievable experience when I was able to

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Speaker 4: come back from all of this and get back into

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Speaker 4: the booths with Nathan and Gerard and the Pittsburgh Steeler game,

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Speaker 4: and to smash the guitar and to get the reception

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Speaker 4: that I got from the fancy. It was just it's

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Speaker 4: something that I will never forget. And I know Nathan,

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Speaker 4: everybody was pretty bummed out on that plane coming home

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Speaker 4: from Houston after that tough day against the Texans in

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. Sure, but there was a side to me.

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Speaker 4: They took a deep breath and said, wow, in some

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Speaker 4: ways I was able to pull this off as best

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Speaker 4: I could, So in that way, it's a season I'll

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was magical. And it's funny.

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Speaker 5: We were talking, we were going through some of the

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Speaker 5: best games of the year, and I think I thought

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Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh games should be right at the top for

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Speaker 5: the reasons that you just mentioned, because it was such

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Speaker 5: an emotional day and it was such a symbolic return

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Speaker 5: you get a game winning field goal from Dustin Hopkins,

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Speaker 5: and it was just I thought that was such a special,

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Speaker 3: It's certainly when I'll never forget.

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Speaker 5: And you're right, you know, we got to call a

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Speaker 5: long it had been since you were in person for

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Speaker 5: through everything that you did when you gave that sign

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Speaker 5: off week one, to come back in Pittsburgh and then

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is it's a crazy ear.

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Speaker 5: It's funny even talking about it now, all of the

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Speaker 5: different memories and moments that while it didn't end the

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Speaker 5: way we wanted, and I know for you, it was

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Speaker 5: not just four and a half months of pure joy

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Speaker 5: because there were a lot of struggles and a lot

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Speaker 5: of fight from you. But from a Browns fans perspective,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you had really a great, fun run that

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Speaker 5: had almost three seasons within a season. It was just

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Speaker 5: it's kind of hard to even fathom that that really happened,

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Speaker 5: even though it just wrapped up, you know, over a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it really was. And you know, I remember Opening

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Speaker 4: the end of the broadcast on Opening Day, but I

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Speaker 4: remember the body of that game on Opening Day, and

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Speaker 4: the other thing that made me so sad is that

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Speaker 4: I realized this was going to be a really special team.

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Speaker 4: It was going to be a special season with the

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Speaker 4: way they played that day against the Bengals, and to

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Speaker 4: and aggressiveness and talent, I said to myself, Wow, this

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Speaker 4: is going to be a very special season that this

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Speaker 4: town is really going to enjoy. And it was so

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Speaker 4: topped off by that magical Thursday night against the Jets

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Speaker 4: when they made the playoffs, where everything just fell into place,

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Speaker 4: and the electricity I can still feel it even talking

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Speaker 4: about it. I mean, that was what I always dreamed

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Speaker 4: of when the Browns came back in nineteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 4: and it took a long time to happen, but boy,

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, when it did, it was. It

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Speaker 4: was something I will always cherish being there.

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Speaker 5: I'm still smiling. Just listen you talk about it and

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Speaker 5: thinking about that Thursday night.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 3: It's over. Yeah, great call it was. It was awesome.

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Speaker 5: Help us because you called all of the games in

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Speaker 5: which Joe Flacco stuck it to the Browns, to the

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Speaker 5: coming back and all of a sudden, Joe Flacco can

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Speaker 5: do no wrong. We go on this unbelievable wind Street.

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Speaker 5: He sets NFL records, he sets Brown's records. Is that

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Speaker 5: is that one of those things that you think was

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Speaker 5: I still was I dreaming when you think back of that,

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Speaker 5: Joe Flacco was the guy who came in, was the

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Speaker 5: savior for the Cleveland Browns at quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I will say this, You're right. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he just really owned us through the years. But I

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Speaker 6: But I always.

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Speaker 4: Really loved watching him throw the ball because he was Jess.

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Speaker 4: It was effortless. It was really pretty thing to watch

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Speaker 4: when you get a quarterback that can really, as they say,

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Speaker 4: So in particular Nathan and Bo that day against the

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Speaker 4: He was struggling, you know, he was. He was throwing

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Speaker 4: a lot of wiggle room, let's face it, in the

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Speaker 4: that reminded me of those days early on when he

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Speaker 4: there were times where I got I think the Browns

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Speaker 4: are going to beat Joe Flecco today, But no, he

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Speaker 4: would get ready and he would pull a great playout

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Speaker 4: or two or three great plays, and he would beat us.

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Speaker 4: But it was great to see him do it for us.

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Speaker 4: But I always knew he had the capability because he

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Speaker 4: was just so fluid, and it was what a great story,

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Speaker 4: it was. And to see his personal enjoyment with his family,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's the thing that makes you

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Speaker 2: know when you think about how unique that you'll never

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Speaker 2: see another season like this for about a billion reasons.

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Speaker 2: But Jim, the other part of it, there's kind of

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Speaker 2: three segments of this season. I mean, there is the

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Speaker 2: then when's he coming back? What we comes back? But

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Speaker 2: he's lost for the season. And Nathan and I said

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Speaker 2: that day, that day that he and I did the show.

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Speaker 2: When he's lost for the season, he presided over a funeral. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, like it really felt that way. And then

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Speaker 3: It's almost like there were three seasons in one from

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that was a that was a pretty

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Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson was gonna be gone for the year, because

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Speaker 4: there was such a high where you said, wow, here

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Speaker 4: we go, here is Deshaun Watson all that talked about

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Speaker 4: rushes off of his game. He engineered an amazing comeback

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Speaker 4: you were just hoping, all right, this is week to week.

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Speaker 4: You know it's gonna be every week he's gonna be

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Speaker 4: there's there's gonna be no worry about this. He is,

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Speaker 4: he's only gonna get better and better. And then boom,

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Speaker 4: the remainder of the year. That's tough, and it's just

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Speaker 4: to be able to do with what they did, not

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Speaker 4: only that next week against Pittsburgh, but what they did

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Speaker 4: I'm glad was very recognized last Thursday at the NFL

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Speaker 2: You know, guys, it was if you were to ask

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Speaker 2: somebody when you think the Deshaun Watson injury happened, my

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Speaker 2: guess is most people would say October. It's November twelfth.

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Speaker 3: It's going to say it had to be. It was

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Speaker 3: like week it's it's.

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Speaker 2: The nineteenth of November when we played Pittsburgh and Jim

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Speaker 2: came back and smashed the guitar and that magical day.

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Speaker 2: But like, think about how far along in the season

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Speaker 5: So we went I'm trying to remember this. So it

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Speaker 5: When I called you and told you that one of

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Speaker 5: And you mentioned the honors Coach of the year second

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what in all of those categories

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Speaker 3: No, it does not. It doesn't.

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Speaker 2: And I think there was some real nuance to understanding

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Speaker 2: it was sure of itself, especially at home, and probably

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I go back to the Cozar year

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Speaker 5: And I think that whether it was is Jim Schwartz

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Speaker 4: Oh, I just thought that I you know, I wasn't

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Speaker 3: It sure did.

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Speaker 2: And as we spent our last couple of minutes with you, sir,

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Speaker 3: Well, that we had it full circle.

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Speaker 2: We had all of you and you were standing over it,

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Speaker 4: Well, the whole day it was pretty incredible. I mean

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Speaker 4: You just hope for it, and you hope for even more.

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Speaker 5: I mean getting I went out after that night into

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Speaker 5: you even today, everywhere I go, how's Jim, How's Jim?

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Speaker 5: Praying for Jim, thinking about Jim. People love you, And

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Speaker 5: So it really was just it's I get emotional thinking

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Speaker 4: into the booth after smashing the guitar, I had no

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Speaker 4: air if I lunch and Nathan is two in the

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Speaker 4: play by play and doing a very nice job of it,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like trying to get some air at my

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Speaker 4: lungs and and Jason Gibbson goes, go ahead, get hop

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Speaker 4: right in there, and I'm going I don't have any

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Speaker 4: air at my lungs, and I kid, I can't say

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Speaker 4: DPPR and get it out because it was just it

446
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Speaker 4: was such an incredible day. But I have to tell

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Speaker 4: you we have a great family up in that radio booths,

448
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Speaker 4: and it is family and it's so much fun being

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Speaker 4: with everybody, and God, I was just so happy to

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Speaker 4: be to be a part of it. However, many times

451
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Speaker 4: I could be up this year in the booth and

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Speaker 4: calling the games. It was such a fight to get

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Speaker 4: up there, but it was it was really worth the fight.

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Speaker 2: Well, we love you, buddy, and we thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your time, and we'll talk to you again soon,

456
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Speaker 2: my friend.

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Speaker 4: Have a great day, guys, I always say, talking to

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Speaker 4: you all right.

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Speaker 2: That is the voice the great Jim Donovan joining us

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Speaker 2: on the Twist of Tea Hard Iced Tea Hotline, the

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Speaker 2: official sponsor of Your Cleveland Browns, will continue with our

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Speaker 2: season review.

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Speaker 3: Where do we really go for me? Yeah, well, we

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Speaker 3: got a lot to get to.

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Speaker 2: Giron's coming on, we got Jake's coming on a little

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Speaker 2: bit later as well. We'll go through some of the

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Speaker 2: position reviews, some of the big questions for the off season. Mostly, though,

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Speaker 2: we're going to take a look back at at a

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Speaker 2: very unique, incredibly memorable, trying at time season for Your

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. We're off running Cleveland Brown's ely eight fifty

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Speaker 2: here on the season review show, Let's let's do the

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Speaker 2: offense and this is the defense is a pretty That's

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Speaker 2: a very simple conversation. When you have the defensive conversation,

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Speaker 2: the offensive conversation is it's wildly different. As I alluded

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Speaker 2: to in the conversation we had with Jim, I think

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Speaker 2: most people and even in my own mind's eye, the

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Speaker 2: Watson injury to me happens in October, but it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: The first one happens before that. Then he's out and

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Speaker 2: then he comes back and it's actually November twelfth, it's

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Speaker 2: the nineteenth. Is the Pittsburgh game. So it's the Sunday

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Speaker 2: before Thanksgiving that you play Pittsburgh here, that's how late

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Speaker 2: into this week.

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Speaker 6: Ten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you went. You had ten nine weeks of

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Speaker 2: the start of the season, the injury hanging over him,

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Speaker 2: the start and stop, back on the injury, and then

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Speaker 2: eventually back and then electric play in the second half

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Speaker 2: in the win at Baltimore.

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Speaker 6: And then in.

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Speaker 2: Between that you have DTR and PJ winning games that

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Speaker 2: are otherwise you would say, impossible to win, and yet

502
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Speaker 2: they made these incredible plays when they needed to to

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Speaker 2: win those games.

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Speaker 5: In the span of six weeks, you beat the number

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Speaker 5: one seed in the NFC with PJ Walker, you beat

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Speaker 5: the number one seed in the AFC with Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 5: and then you beat the Pittsburgh Steelers with a rookie DTR.

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Speaker 5: In the span of six weeks that that happened. It

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Speaker 5: really is wild. I mean, DeShawn really only played five games.

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Speaker 5: He played against the Bengals, the Steelers, the Titans, the

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Speaker 5: Colts game he started, but he didn't really play. And

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Speaker 5: then he played against the Cardinals and the Ravens. So

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Speaker 5: was we were five and one in the games he started,

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Speaker 5: four and one in the games that he really played,

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Speaker 5: and yeah, you saw the good news about it is.

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Speaker 5: On one hand, you could say the last three games

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Speaker 5: he played, the Titans game, the Cardinals game, and the

518
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Speaker 5: Ravens game, he was electric for at least one half

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Speaker 5: in all three of those games, and obviously the one

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Speaker 5: against the Ravens is the most important, clearly. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: this is it's it's kind of unfathiable. I mean at

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Speaker 5: that point when we beat the Steelers, Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 3: Is not even on the radar. I mean maybe he

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Speaker 3: was not.

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Speaker 5: He was on a list that in an office back there. Sure, okay,

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Speaker 5: in case of emergency, break glass and we called Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 5: but he still.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't even on the radar.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't until DTR gets hurt and when he started

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Speaker 5: actually playing pretty well against Denver. I have a lot

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Speaker 5: of confidence in DT. I feel good about DJ and

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Speaker 5: I think the changes on the staff are going to

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Speaker 5: be excellent for DTR.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, wild no.

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Speaker 2: And it's and so then you have that, you have

536
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Speaker 2: the injury to DTR, and then you have Flacco who

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Speaker 2: comes in and I've told the story before, like you are,

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Speaker 2: You're inexcitable.

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Speaker 3: I love you.

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Speaker 2: Your glass is always more than half full, three quarter

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Speaker 2: full full, overwhelming with joy and abundance of it, and

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Speaker 2: and and sometimes people will hold that against you. God

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Speaker 2: knows why. And I remember you calling me from UCLA

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Speaker 2: and we talked. It was before a show, and you said, dude,

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Speaker 2: Flacco looks ridiculous. And I said, come on, come on, Nate, it's.

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Speaker 3: Not off season, Nate time. It's not that doctor Z.

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about? How is it.

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Speaker 2: Possibly he's thirty eight, Like, what are we talking about?

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Speaker 2: You're like, I'm telling you. And then he did. And

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Speaker 2: the crazy thing with with Flacco, And this is what

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Speaker 2: I think makes the season. It just like sits in

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Speaker 2: a time capsule, all unto itself because you're you just

553
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Speaker 2: never have all of these events coincide.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: There will be very very little, if next to no

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Speaker 2: carryover to next season. Offensively, no, none. I mean it

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Speaker 2: will look nothing to be same. I mean there'll be okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I mean we got who knows what's gonna been

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Speaker 2: with Nick and you know there's gonna be changes on

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Speaker 2: the receiver obviously, there could be changes on the offensive line,

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Speaker 2: who knows. But just from the standpoint of with Flacco,

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Speaker 2: like is Chief a pro bowler? If Flaco doesn't come in,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, is a Mario pro bowler? If Flacco

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Speaker 2: doesn't come in, I don't know he provided I mean

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Speaker 2: those three hundred yard games, we didn't have any point

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Speaker 2: of reference for that.

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Speaker 5: He played five games, he threw for sixteen hundred and

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Speaker 5: sixteen yards, say, thirteen touchdowns, eight picks. Yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: he certainly, I mean you go, I can just go

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Speaker 5: into the game logs on for those guys. For Chief,

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Speaker 5: for example, who is a pro bowler, as you point out,

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Speaker 5: finished with eighty one eight eighty two and six touchdowns,

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Speaker 5: all career highs and certainly so deserving me. Probably didn't

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Speaker 5: Eve talk about the open. I mean the guy burned

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Speaker 5: his body and played against the Ravens without facial skin.

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Speaker 5: That's correct, with the mix, Yeah, without facial skin. You

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Speaker 5: know how sensitive that is your home and being hit.

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Speaker 3: I can't even wrap my head right how much it

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Speaker 3: would hurt.

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Speaker 5: Forged in the flames, he was incredible. But for him

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Speaker 5: on a on a game log, if you kind of

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Speaker 5: look at what he did, and you're exactly right. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: when Flacco comes in, he became Flacco threw the ball

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Speaker 5: basically to two.

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Speaker 3: People here you do chief, I'm gonna pull up on

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Speaker 3: all right. So, and he had some nice games.

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Speaker 5: He was having a good stretch with from with Seattle

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Speaker 5: on he goes four to seventy seven in a touchdown Seattle,

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Speaker 5: four for twenty six in a touchdown with Deshaun, six

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Speaker 5: for fifty eight against the Ravens, seven for fifty six

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Speaker 5: Denver was six for fifty nine the first Flacco game,

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Speaker 5: two for seventeen. The final four Flacco games six for

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Speaker 5: ninety one and two touchdowns against the Jags, ten for

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Speaker 5: one oh four in a touchdown against the Bears, six

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Speaker 5: for forty four in a touchdown against Houston, and six

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Speaker 5: for one hundred and thirty four against the Jets. And

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Speaker 5: then he had seven for ninety three in the playoff game.

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Speaker 5: So yes, obviously Flacco was a big, big part of

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Speaker 5: what happened there.

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Speaker 3: Two hundred yard games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the the Amari targets, it's not quite as overwhelming

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Speaker 2: or the Amari production.

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Speaker 3: The targets are crazy.

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Speaker 2: The last three in the last three games of the season, Jacksonville,

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Speaker 2: Chicago and.

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Speaker 3: The Houston, he didn't play against the Jets. He did

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Speaker 3: not play against the Jets.

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Speaker 2: It was fourteen targets, eight targets, fifteen targets in those

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Speaker 2: three games. It's seven for seventy seven, four for one

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Speaker 2: oh nine, and eleven for two sixty five in those games.

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Speaker 2: And and yeah, it was so there were That's when

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Speaker 2: when you think about the offensive part of it, you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: you know, Chief with the with the burnt face, and

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Speaker 2: you think about the Chub injury. I mean, that's why

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Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes we provided over two funerals this season.

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Speaker 2: There was the Watson injury, the Chubb injury. That was

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Speaker 2: a funeral show we did in coming out of that one.

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Speaker 2: It was like, my god, not Nick Chubb, of all people,

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Speaker 2: not Nick Chubb. But that happens week two. Conklin happens

620
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Speaker 2: week one, which allows for Dewan Jones, who may have

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Speaker 2: been a pro bowler had he just played the rest

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Speaker 2: of the season without getting hurt. He was sensational, absolutely sensational.

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Speaker 2: And so that's the thing that it's hard for me

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Speaker 2: to put this into a season long perspective because it

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Speaker 2: felt like there were many seasons within the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and offensively, especially defensively, it was pretty constant.

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Speaker 5: Because it was crazy. It was a crazy, crazy season.

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Speaker 5: That's I mean, that's that's the answer. It was a

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Speaker 5: completely nuts season for the Cleveland Browns, and it's the

630
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Speaker 5: things that they overcame are really incredible. And I think

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Speaker 5: that's why it was so special because whenever sometimes when

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Speaker 5: you get the emotion of the high high and then

633
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Speaker 5: you're like solo, like we're out of it, it's over.

634
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Speaker 5: And then no, it's not over, We're back. Yep, that's

635
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Speaker 5: almost takes you to a new level. You know, it's

636
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 5: like a stock charts, like you're here, we think that

637
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 5: this is great. Oh now we're saying no, now we're

638
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 5: going higher and new high. So it is pretty wild

639
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Speaker 5: when you think about everything that happened there. The quarterback position,

640
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Speaker 5: and to your point, this offense I think is going

641
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 5: to look very different than it did a year ago.

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00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 5: And I think that what the tip has been with

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Speaker 5: Ken Dorsey Tommy Reese, who I think is going to

644
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 5: be a little bit more than just a tight end

645
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 5: coaching movie. He's so young, but coming from being the

646
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Speaker 5: OC under Saban in Alabama. The offense that they ran

647
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 5: some of those college concepts and they had a quarterback

648
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 5: who's quite mobile. For my limited knowledge of college for Yeah, great,

649
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 5: you're going to get an offense that I think is

650
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 5: very much catered to him, and I think it's an

651
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Speaker 5: offense that will be very much catered also to DTR,

652
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Speaker 5: who I thought played significantly better after he was not

653
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Speaker 5: He was not prepared to play against the Ravens at

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Speaker 5: first time.

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Speaker 3: It was also.

656
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Speaker 5: Situation, not that there were any other options. No, everybody

657
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 5: was caught off guard. But I thought, you know, he

658
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 5: leads you on a game winning drive against Pittsburgh and

659
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 5: then his last I think three possessions in Denver or

660
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 5: his last two possessions for sure were scoring drives where

661
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 5: he made some big time throws, moved the ball down

662
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 5: the field, got the touchdown. So I think that he

663
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 5: with another year a little bit more. I like where

664
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 5: DTR is because I think Joe Flacco, who I mean,

665
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 5: you had like a bromance with him immediately, Like he

666
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 5: just was such a great guy. He was living he

667
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 5: was living a dream. I mean, it was as much

668
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 5: for us as Browns fans. Yeah, and that fun and

669
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 5: the ride of it. It was magical for him, for his family,

670
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 5: for his children. They didn't have to go on an

671
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 5: iPad anymore and get on the floor and be like, look,

672
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 5: I used to be pretty good at this game. Okay, kids, Yep.

673
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 5: He showed him and this city completely embraced him. I

674
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 5: would love him to come back. I think he's going

675
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 5: to get an opportunity to go somewhere where he can

676
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 5: maybe start a season as a bridge corporate. Like to me,

677
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 5: New England makes all sense in the world for him.

678
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: Now, well, I think there's several I mean, I think

679
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: smart people. If there were smart people in Chicago, it

680
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: would make sense to go for him for a year

681
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: until Caleb Williams is ready. I think Washington would make

682
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: a lot of sense in New England to make a

683
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: lot of sense all of those places for a year

684
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: and then get the young guy underneath ready. I think

685
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: there's incredible value from that. If you have somebody like

686
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: Flacco who has his worldly experience ahead of him, it's

687
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: not going to work in a place like Tennessee where

688
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: they had Tannehill who had no interest in being shown

689
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: the door. But if you have somebody like Joe who

690
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: will be nurturing and helpful in all of those things,

691
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: all the while playing at a high level like him

692
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: on Chicago, they might be a playoff team if that's

693
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: the way that they end up going, and you'd obviously

694
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: incredibly see incredible immediate improvement in New England if it

695
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: were there Tennessee.

696
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 5: Actually, when you say it out loud to me, kind

697
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 5: of struck me, as he wouldn't be able to start,

698
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 5: So if he's looking to start week one, he wouldn't.

699
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 5: But what Levis kind of possesses is in some ways

700
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 5: he's a little bit a better of an athlete then

701
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 5: maybe Flacco was with his legs. Maybe you're talking about

702
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 5: a pocket, strong armed, big quarterback, and I think Flacco

703
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 5: probably would be.

704
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: Because he plays the game.

705
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 5: Tannehill and Lewis play the game very differently they do

706
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 5: Flacco and Leves probably play pretty similar, so he might

707
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 5: actually have more value there. Callahan obviously would know him

708
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 5: from his time here, so that would be another one

709
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 5: that actually might make some sense. I think it'd be

710
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 5: great if he came back as a backup. I just

711
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 5: think that I don't know that I see that happening

712
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 5: because for two reasons. Number one, finances and I think

713
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 5: he will have suitors. So you're going to be in

714
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 5: a situation where you've got a bid against somebody else

715
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 5: and two. The reality of the National Football League is, yes,

716
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 5: having a good backup can allow moments like we just

717
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 5: experienced last year, but it doesn't change the ultimate goal.

718
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 5: The final eight teams in the NFL playoffs this year,

719
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 5: all of them had their quarterbacks play every single game,

720
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 5: with the exception of CJ. Strodom is two games with

721
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 5: a concussion. Other than that, they all played every game

722
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, played every game, Final Four, every game, Like,

723
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 5: if your quarterback goes down, that's it.

724
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 6: In this that's it.

725
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: That's it.

726
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 2: And it's for us going forward to put a ribbon

727
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: on the topic and it'll always it's going to come

728
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: back to quarterback again. This will now be another off

729
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: season of we know the change have been made on

730
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: the offensive staff, how DeShawn takes to that, how the

731
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: shoulder heals. But but then the other part of it

732
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: is Deshaun Watson needs to play a full season, yes,

733
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 2: and he can't get We can't have him getting hurt.

734
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 2: So you have got to find a way to get

735
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 2: him to play a full season because it's been four

736
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: years now by the time he gets to next year,

737
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 2: since he's played a full season of football.

738
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a long time.

739
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: Brother, so it's not just schematically making sure that everyone's

740
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: put in the best position to succeed. It's also health wise,

741
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: because that's that's the whole thing. And but that's by

742
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: the way, they're dealing with the same thing down in

743
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: Cincinnati with Burrow, where he's missed two seasons, the end

744
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,959
Speaker 2: of two seasons with with catastrophic injury. So you've got

745
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: to have people upright and healthy. And so as much

746
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: as it's got to look right on the field and

747
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: he's got to be putting the right position to succeeds schematically,

748
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: he's also got to stay healthy.

749
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, from twenty eighteen through twenty twenty two, because he's

750
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 5: only allowed to play six games in twenty two. He

751
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 5: played in that stretch all but one game, So thirty

752
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 5: one forty fifty three out of fifty four possible games

753
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 5: this year. Obviously he played six out of seventeen. He

754
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 5: played seven his rookie year when he suffered the ACL.

755
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 5: So yet you've got to get him back to where

756
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 5: he's on the field the whole time. And if you

757
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 5: do that, I think obviously you're gonna have a lot

758
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 5: of success anyway with him, I did see he posted

759
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 5: it though that he's believe it or not. At UCLA

760
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 5: on those very football fields where we saw getting working,

761
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 5: he said, back to work. I know he's when I

762
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 5: talked to him, he's coming along. Everything's coming along, had

763
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 5: a schedule, feeling great. It's such a freak thing. We

764
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 5: gotta avoid freak things we got, we gotta Yeah, you

765
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 5: gotta stay healthy because that's that's it. That is in

766
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 5: the NFL. The margin freyrs already so small. When you

767
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 5: don't have that guy that is really the centerpiece of

768
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 5: everything you're doing, you can do have magic like we did.

769
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 5: But what we did was why it was magicals because

770
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 5: it was improbable. Yeah, and you cannot count on improbable

771
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 5: things to happen with great regularity or frequency.

772
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: You know what else, there's a cement ceiling on that. Well,

773
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: there was certainly as good as it was.

774
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: It was awesome, but there was always a ceiling. Yes,

775
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: you were never beating the kid in Kansas City. That

776
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: was never going to happen. So that's that's the reality

777
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: of that.

778
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: I still can't believe.

779
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 5: And I know that Ghibbet told us the story how

780
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 5: he Andy Reid sent that letter to peer.

781
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: What's coach Antonio Pierce.

782
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just can't believe that that team

783
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 5: that just went into Buffalo. And I realize you're taking

784
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 5: it lightly, but at some point you think they just

785
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 5: fliped switch like they didn't complete a pass after the

786
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 5: first quarter and they smoked the Chiefs yep in Kansas City, yep,

787
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 5: ba humbug Yeah fifteen.

788
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: Look at him now, yeah, look at them now?

789
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: Well, rapid five the season coming up nextualist to Cleveland

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Speaker 3: Hello Gibbet, gentlemen, Away we go.

806
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 7: Your favorite moment from the twenty twenty three Cleveland Browns

807
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 7: football season is the girl. I'll start with you.

808
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: It's tough. You may only pick one. I don't know

809
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: that I can. Can we do one personal? One in

810
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: one for the team? Thank you go?

811
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 5: Personal was Jim smashing the guitar all of us boohoo

812
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 5: and in the booth and then him coming up. And it's

813
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 5: funny that he told that story just then about being

814
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 5: out of air because I remember and maybe that was

815
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 5: when he was standing behind me.

816
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 3: I remember doing a.

817
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 5: Couple of plays. He walked in, grabbed a headset and

818
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 5: I was like, all right, let me go, and then

819
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 5: and away he went.

820
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

821
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 5: I was like right back on it, calling it perfectly.

822
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 5: So that would probably be the person one.

823
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 3: You know.

824
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 5: The team one is just the entirety of that Thursday night,

825
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 5: from yea, the moment that I woke up that morning

826
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,959
Speaker 5: to the time that I went to bed at three

827
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 5: in the morning, that whole night was just.

828
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 6: Awesome.

829
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 3: Yep.

830
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the clear team one, although I and I've

831
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: told this before, like that was it Christmas Eve in Houston?

832
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 3: Yep.

833
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: That was so cool because you know, you could feel

834
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: like families around the area watching that and Amari breaking

835
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: that record. Everybody wanted him back in. We all love

836
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: amar and like do you have him back in? And

837
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: then to break it. It was just such a cool,

838
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: cool thing. But the correct answer is the Jets. The

839
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: personal one for me is Pittsburgh. I mean, the boys

840
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: were at that game. We had a two year reunion

841
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: with Bootsy and and Chomps.

842
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 3: Which was waiting.

843
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: That brought a tear to my like when Bootsy saw him,

844
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: that was unbelievable. And then Bootsy going here we go

845
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: Steelers sucks screaming in the stands like, and then we

846
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 2: won and the boys got to experience that. We were

847
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: behind t J. Watt's wife like it was crazy. So

848
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: that was the personal one for me. That was That

849
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: was the one that was pretty good.

850
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 7: What was yours, Gibbet, I mean the Steeler moment, it

851
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 7: is amazing. Thursday Night was cool. I mean the bank

852
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 7: the home opener, the season opener. Yeah, we don't win,

853
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 7: by the way, we don't win season openers. We don't

854
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 7: really have a good track record since yea two in

855
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 7: a row. Bro, But like you, you were like, none

856
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 7: of us really knew what it was going to look

857
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 7: like because no one had played until.

858
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 6: The Chiefs game.

859
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: It was dominant, you know, and it just.

860
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 7: The weather was all of a sudden, the weather's bad

861
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 7: and it's one cloud over the entire state of Also

862
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 7: and it happens to be over the stadium. The sad

863
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 7: and you're just I don't know how this is going

864
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 7: to look or what's going to happen, what is Burrow

865
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 7: going to look like? And just it was an awesome,

866
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 7: awesome game, a great day. Most disappointing moment.

867
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 3: Chubb, Chubb, Chubb broke my heart. That broke my heart.

868
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 4: Man.

869
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 5: So I remember with the Chubb one the initial time

870
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 5: that I saw because it happened so fast, the way

871
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 5: that he went down, I thought.

872
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: He went on his shoulder so hard.

873
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, And then I remember seeing the replay in the

874
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 5: booth while I was talking, and I almost like.

875
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: Got sick on television. You knew right away that was

876
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: when the way that it was shot. Yeah, you knew

877
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: right away.

878
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: And I just he's the best and that that just

879
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: was that broke your heart.

880
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 5: So one for me was that one, and then the

881
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 5: other would be when Flacco threw the pick six when

882
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 5: he was trying to throw it away where we had

883
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 5: a guy open. She would have been a touchdown, but

884
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 5: we got beat on a block because we're down to

885
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 5: our you know, fourth fifth tackles and that eighty two

886
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 5: yard picked six and you knew, like, all right, this

887
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 5: is just it's it's over because we were about to

888
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 5: make it a one score game.

889
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: We were down ten.

890
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 5: We had first intended I think they're thirty five, and

891
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 5: then that was just a backbreaker and you knew that

892
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 5: it was over. And that's the thing about it, as

893
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 5: Jim said it, it's so abrupt.

894
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 7: It's so abrupt coming in the next day for locker

895
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 7: clean out and going wow, okay, it's it is over.

896
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 7: In less than sixteen hours, man, like gone Finito, Yeah,

897
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 7: your team MVP not named Miles Garrett.

898
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: I would go Chief here, But I think you can

899
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: make a case for Amari and j Okay. But to me,

900
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: I just think I think Chief found himself in the flames,

901
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: as it were. But I mean just leadership, all of it,

902
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: and he was a constant. You could count on him always,

903
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: and he just got better as the season went along,

904
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: and I thought he just showed the resolve of everything

905
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: you'd want to Brown to be when he played. That's

906
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: absurd to play in that can you have anybody's ever

907
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: had like a severe burn, let alone on your face.

908
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the most tender situation you could be

909
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: in to try to play a football.

910
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 3: Put a holmad on not just your face, but behead.

911
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 5: His hand was still his sweating, will never have pigment

912
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 5: in it again in his right hand. It's crazy, I mean,

913
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 5: and he cut passes that game with those hands.

914
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the National League. I love him.

915
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 5: I love the man that he has become. I love

916
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 5: the player that he's become like. I have a great

917
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 5: affection and admiration for him, and he would be I

918
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 5: was gonna if it wasn't him.

919
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: There are four.

920
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 5: People that came into my mind immediately, Chief actually five,

921
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 5: Chief Amari.

922
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 3: You mentioned.

923
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 5: J Okay, whom you mentioned, Joe Flacco has to get

924
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 5: some consideration.

925
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: And Dustin Hopkins. He wasn't there at the end. It

926
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 3: sucks because.

927
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 5: Terrible and he got hurt in on a one bad

928
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 5: play that cost us him and be horre Kiss for

929
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 5: a game.

930
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna go.

931
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go j Okay because one hundred and one

932
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 5: tackles led the team, twenty tackles for loss led the team,

933
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 5: and was the most of anybody who.

934
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 3: Was not an edge rusher in the league. And I

935
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 3: think he was third in the league.

936
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 5: Max Crosby and Daniel Hunter I believe were one two,

937
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 5: three and a half sacks, two interceptions, six passes defense,

938
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 5: and a forced fumble.

939
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 3: And he grew up as well.

940
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 5: Just talking to him, it was very much his maturation

941
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,959
Speaker 5: on their very different personalities, but his maturation and seeing

942
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 5: him become a man and a leader very similar to

943
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 5: Chief who you pointed out. Just an incredible, incredible year

944
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 5: he was. He was really really spectacular.

945
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 4: All right.

946
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 7: I would ask your most improved player in twenty twenty three,

947
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 7: but I think you just named both of them as

948
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 7: your team MVPs, not named Miles Garrett.

949
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 2: I think j Oka for me would have been the

950
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: answer to this one, because there were times in the

951
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: previous year where he felt like he was lost a

952
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: little bit.

953
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: Well he's found, Yeah, he just went over the stats.

954
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: He would be my on my choice on this, so I.

955
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 5: Think you know, he certainly won mj Emerson, although he

956
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 5: just didn't have the ball.

957
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: Production, his rookie year certainly was great.

958
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 5: I think even as a rookie, I'm going to go

959
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 5: with with one that I think might be a surprise,

960
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 5: a surprise to you guys, Alex Right, Alex Wright finished

961
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 5: this season.

962
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: Would you had five sacks, four.

963
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 5: In his left in his last four games Chicago, Houston, Jets,

964
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 5: and then won against Cincinnati as well. Alex Wright is

965
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 5: a guy, and he started playing more towards the end

966
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 5: of the year.

967
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 3: I mean he played.

968
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 5: He was playing seventy percent of the snaps the last

969
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 5: four weeks. Really, the last three are the ones that matter. Chicago,

970
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 5: Houston and the Jetsos were all big games. Sack and

971
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 5: all three of those games he made a huge play

972
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 5: the tackle and he had a tackle for a loss.

973
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 5: He had four sacks and five tackles for loss in

974
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 5: the last four games. Prior to that, he had one

975
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 5: sack and one tackle for lost all season. So he

976
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 5: got more playing time. He stepped up because not only

977
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 5: in Tustad he have Chicago, do you have second? He

978
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 5: had the stop on the on the Jets sweep on

979
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 5: a third down. Ye was a monster play. We don't

980
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 5: win without that play. So I'm gonna give Alex right.

981
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 5: I feel like maybe they knew he was a project.

982
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 5: They thought maybe a two year project, Like it wouldn't

983
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 5: surprise me if he becomes if they bring in maybe

984
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 5: say a guy like a Derek Barnett who's a former

985
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 5: first rounder who blossomed with Jacques Czar in Houston, and

986
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 5: and say, Alex right, you're gonna be the guy opposite

987
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 5: Miles Garrett.

988
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, with Obo. Yeah, and then bring in one more

989
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: vent and that's all that would help everybody rolled, Yeah.

990
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 5: Because he allows you to save significant dollars that are

991
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 5: going to be needed elsewhere. But the way he developed,

992
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 5: I'm excited about Alex.

993
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 7: All Right, we got thirty seconds here before break top

994
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 7: rookie real quick.

995
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 3: Just Lan Jones overwhelmingly Yes.

996
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 7: And that's your rapid fire second.

997
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: There you go.

998
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: All right, Coming up next we go one thought around

999
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,120
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1014
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: Analyst of course. Three time Super Bowl champion Rod Cherry

1015
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 2: joins us here. Dred Good talking to you, buddy. We're

1016
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: just before we get into one thought on a lot

1017
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: of these guys who played this year. When you look

1018
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: back on the twenty twenty three season for the Cleveland Browns,

1019
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: how do you put it into perspective?

1020
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 6: Great question.

1021
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 8: It's really for me one seeing guys overcome the obstacles

1022
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 8: and odds that came their way and just the way

1023
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 8: and it was just this this frank lackluster. I didn't

1024
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 8: love the ending and whatsoever, but the season itself was

1025
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 8: a great one. You saw just guys showing what it

1026
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 8: means to have marriage, showing what it means to have

1027
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 8: a heart, showing what camaraderie and being a great teammate

1028
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 8: looks like. And such an unfitting end for such a

1029
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 8: really really promising, great season.

1030
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah it was.

1031
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 4: It was.

1032
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 5: It was sad and it was very abrupt, but you're right,

1033
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 5: it was a great season. Just ask you real quick,

1034
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 5: what was what was your favorite moment from the season,

1035
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 5: whether personal, give us a personal and then also from

1036
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 5: on the field.

1037
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 8: Favorite moment from a personal standpoint, I would go with

1038
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 8: the night that we were at the restaurant in Houston.

1039
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 6: That was incredible good.

1040
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 3: That was a good time. I love it.

1041
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 4: That night.

1042
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 5: It was the buttercake. The buttercake was very happy. Some

1043
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 5: nice cocktails.

1044
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for sure.

1045
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 5: By the way, give me a sad Drew missed it,

1046
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 5: isn't it? Yellowstone paid off very big for him, though

1047
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 5: I don't think so in the zero return on the

1048
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 5: zero return zero sad And I'm not telling him. I'm

1049
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 5: be like you missed out that Wason's favorite moment, I

1050
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 5: really was all right on the field.

1051
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 8: On the field, it was combination of things I would

1052
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 8: actually say. On the field, it was a night we

1053
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 8: clinched the electricity in the air Home Jets. The crowd

1054
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 8: was just ruckus and it was just what you would

1055
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 8: imagine it would be like in the atmosphere in which

1056
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 8: you have a very successful football team. That was an

1057
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 8: incredible sense of feeling just having guys run around the

1058
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 8: stadium and celebrate that moment in the tension that was

1059
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 8: just in the air.

1060
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 6: And once we did.

1061
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 8: It, it was like, wow, you mean to tell me

1062
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 8: we went through four quarterbacks, gone through all these injuries

1063
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 8: and we are actually on our way to the playoffs.

1064
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 6: This should not be occurring.

1065
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 8: We should be in the same state as the Jets

1066
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 8: sort of Bengals right now, and that was not the case.

1067
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 8: So just a sense of feeling of happiness and the

1068
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 8: joyfulness of what was taking place that you can literally

1069
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 8: just feel it through your bones as it was going on.

1070
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 6: So that right there was my favorite memory on the field.

1071
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's an easy one. I think that makes

1072
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 2: all the sense of the world. And that's one that

1073
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: all the old heads around here been telling us all about. Right, yeah, well,

1074
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: way do you see what happens when you get a feeling?

1075
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: Because the last time we did it, it was ovid

1076
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 2: and you didn't get a chance to experience the way

1077
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: the way you did of something taking over the city.

1078
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 5: By the way, I'm going to put this out there

1079
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 5: for the hopes of a reverse jinx. Do you see

1080
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 5: how many similarities there are to the start of this

1081
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 5: year versus the start of twenty twenty Chiefs beat the

1082
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 5: Niners in the Super Bowl? Oh my, same two candidates

1083
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 5: running in an election year. Yeah, right, And then last.

1084
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: Time that was followed by the world's setting down in

1085
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: the middle of March. So, oh boy, I don't know

1086
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: that I needed that. I've thrown out there's a reverse

1087
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 3: seas if we talk about it, thinks, and then we

1088
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 3: won't have it, won't It's like it's like what about Bob.

1089
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: It's like if I talk about it, but I.

1090
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: Don't, they don't have it all right, time, fellas for

1091
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 2: one thought, I'm gonna give you a name and then

1092
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: you guys give it. Give me one thought on the

1093
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: following names and positions as we look back on the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season on this very special Brown's Year

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Speaker 2: in Review show, Let's start on the coaching staff, and

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00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 2: Gerard will start with you defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz, what's

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00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: your one thought?

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00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 6: Bad assery?

1099
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 8: He brought swag and had to to this defense and

1100
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 8: it was so much needed.

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00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 3: I second that.

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00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 5: I like those I was looking for a thought along

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00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 5: those lines, and Gerrod nailed it.

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00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there was That was it. Yeah yeah, bad assery,

1105
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 3: that was it for sure. Z. I'll go to you

1106
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 3: with this one. You can go first on this one.

1107
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: The Chief, David Djoko.

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00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 5: Like a phoenix rising from the flames. Just incredible leadership,

1109
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 5: toughness that has I really don't think we all can.

1110
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 5: I sort of can't comprehend it. I can't fathom it.

1111
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 5: You can't, and I don't know that it's given the

1112
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 5: proper appreciation, Like what he he played through is completely insane.

1113
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 5: And so for him to grow up become the star

1114
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 5: that he did, the leader that he did, get the

1115
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl recognition that he did, I couldn't be happier.

1116
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 3: So maybe my thought is pure joy. I am so

1117
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: happy for the Chief.

1118
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 6: And for me.

1119
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 8: It's the emotional leader of the football team, the guy

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00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 8: you look to say, if he's doing this on this level,

1121
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 8: why can't I? If he's out here playing, why can

1122
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 8: I if he's out of here practicing.

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00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 6: Why can't I A star was born?

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00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 8: We already knew that Djoku had the ability to be great,

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00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 8: but he really put it on display this past season.

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00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 6: So for me, the Chief is the.

1127
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 8: Emotional leader of this football team, and a star is born.

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00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: I think it's one of those things where like if

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00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 2: you've made a list of ten crazy things that happened,

1130
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: it's one of those things that you would forget about,

1131
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: and then when you remembered it, you would go, oh

1132
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 2: my god, Chief's face burnt off, yes, and then you

1133
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: go that.

1134
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: Needs to be way higher. Opening segment twenty mints and

1135
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 3: didn't mention it, and I was.

1136
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, that's top five crazy things that happened?

1137
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 3: Was that all right? I draw this one comes back

1138
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 3: to you. Amari Cooper, the silent Assassin.

1139
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 8: I mean, Coop put on one the best displays I've

1140
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 8: ever seen the wide receiver do against a defense what

1141
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 8: we witness against the Texas to first go around and

1142
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 8: that level of dominance, and it's nothing like watching greatness,

1143
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 8: especially from the sideline perspective that I had, and it

1144
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 8: was just so impressive just to watch him be so

1145
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 8: dominant about it. But in the process there was no

1146
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 8: bravado in it. It was just, hey, this is what

1147
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 8: I do because I'm Amari Cooper. So again, the silent assassin, I'm.

1148
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 5: Gonna say, a master of his craft, just such a technician,

1149
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 5: incredible route running, something as simple as in the game

1150
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 5: against Houston, where you're gonna talk about the bombs and

1151
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 5: the two hundred and sixty five, Well one catch came

1152
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 5: on a simple third and one where he just lull

1153
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 5: the dB to think and he was just doing a

1154
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 5: little block and then exploded out of it for a completion.

1155
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 5: And a nice game on a slant. Just every little

1156
00:54:55,360 --> 00:55:00,280
Speaker 5: detail so good. Great leader, great toughness. Obviously the Houston

1157
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 5: games what you remember. But when I think of Amari

1158
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 5: Cooper in this season, I will never ever forget the

1159
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 5: catch against the Bears, which has as much.

1160
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: To do with him as Flacco.

1161
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 5: But to me, that was just that's one of the

1162
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 5: most unbelievable plays I've ever seen.

1163
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: It certainly was back to use for this one. Big

1164
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: fan of Dwan Jones.

1165
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 5: Tall on talent, what a human being to just yeah,

1166
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 5: such a nice young man and just Dominatet He's a

1167
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 5: stud I mean, absolute steal of the draft. I mean

1168
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 5: he's one of he will be one of the seals

1169
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 5: of the draft. Dwan Jones is going to be, I

1170
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 5: think a perennial pro bowler. I think he was going

1171
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 5: to be one of the most dominant pass blockers in

1172
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 5: the league, and I think that he is going to

1173
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 5: become one.

1174
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 3: Of the better run blockers in leagues.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think he's I think he has a chance,

1176
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 5: and I don't think it's hyperbole.

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00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 3: You might you guys might check me. I think chance.

1178
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 5: If he stays healthy and plays for a decade, I

1179
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 5: think he has a chance to be a Hall of Famer.

1180
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 3: That's how good I think he's gonna be. I don't

1181
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: think it's an overstep based on one You.

1182
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 8: Not at all consider who he would up against and

1183
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 8: how he shut them down. He went up against practice

1184
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 8: Miles Garrett. Then when you think what he did against

1185
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 8: TJ and that he shut him down and the other

1186
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 8: guys that he went against, Pridor getting injured, you had

1187
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 8: a situation where a guy was drafted late and he

1188
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 8: played like a top five pick. That's what we acquired

1189
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 8: in the NFL draft. Think about that, we have a

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00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 8: tackle who's late round draft pick but played to the

1191
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 8: level of a Hall of Fame, all pro level his

1192
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 8: rookie season going out there, and there was question marks

1193
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 8: going into the season, would he even make the squad.

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00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 5: I think it's a testament to Andrew Berry and his

1195
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 5: staff that in the two years we haven't had first

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00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 5: round picks. I think if you were to redraft those drafts,

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00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 5: I think mj Emerson's a first round pick. Yeah, and

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00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 5: I think Dwan Jones is a first round pick.

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00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 4: Well.

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00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 2: I think I'll tell you what. They can draft offensive lineman,

1201
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 2: and they can draft defensive players secondary, especially yeah, secondary linebacker.

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00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: That's this One's going to be about the other positions,

1203
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: but that's something that they've proven that they can do. Uh,

1204
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: drive this one to you. Miles Garrett the Defensive player

1205
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: of the Year.

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00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 8: US first comes to mind is that he deserves that

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00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 8: honor and that accolade. He had been searching for it

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00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 8: for a very long time. And the interesting thing about

1209
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 8: it is that when he stopped talking about it and

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00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 8: he went on the field and went about it is

1211
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 8: when it came his way. But one thing I will

1212
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 8: not forget about this season with Miles is that that

1213
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 8: game that he had against the Colts where he was

1214
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 8: just doing what he wanted and blocking kicks and jumping

1215
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 8: over centers and just doing some insane athletic feats. Just

1216
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 8: a true representation of what he's about. But here's the

1217
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 8: thing that no one's really talking about. I watched him

1218
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 8: after that Denver game. Guys, his shoulder was out of place,

1219
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 8: he couldn't put his jacket on.

1220
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 6: But he didn't bemoaned, he didn't cry about it.

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00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 8: He proceeded to play the next seven weeks, I believe,

1222
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 8: not fully himself, but you wouldn't never have known that.

1223
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 8: And the other people talk about the sack toll and

1224
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 8: all that, but he sucked it up. He was there

1225
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 8: for his teammates and definitely played the part and why

1226
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 8: we were in the playoffs.

1227
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 5: Quite frankly, he was the defensive player that opposing offenses

1228
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 5: worried about the most in the National Football League period.

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00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 3: And that's why he won the award. Yeah, that's it.

1230
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: We talked about him a little bit earlier, back to

1231
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: use the Jeremiahusa.

1232
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 3: Kormo Superstar breakout. Did everything the right way.

1233
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 5: He talked to Jason Tarver, the Browns linebacker coach, in

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00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 5: great front of this program, could be happier with the

1235
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 5: dedication that Joka show the way that he stepped up

1236
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 5: and he became one of the biggest off ball linebacker

1237
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 5: linebacker playmakers in the NFL playing twenty tackles for a loss,

1238
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 5: multiple picks, multiple sacks.

1239
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: I mean one hundred tackles.

1240
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 5: Twenty tackles for a loss out of one hundred and

1241
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 5: one tackles is for an off ball linebacker.

1242
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Speaker 3: Is crazy.

1243
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 5: He's just such a player stud and he's another one

1244
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 5: if he can stay healthy, he's got an opportunity to

1245
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 5: be I think a great.

1246
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 8: Yeah for me first, as that comes to mind best

1247
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 8: stressed in the National Football League, the Tits were on

1248
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 8: fire on a.

1249
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 6: Regular weekly basis.

1250
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 8: He would represent before and after the game, sometimes switching

1251
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 8: it up. With that being said, what he did on

1252
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 8: the football field was pure dominant and elegance and aggression

1253
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 8: all at the same time along with his dress code.

1254
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 8: So extremely impressed with the step that he took this

1255
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 8: year in that he became a guy in which you

1256
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 8: sent yourself.

1257
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 6: He is.

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00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 8: He has the ability to be a defensive Player of

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00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 8: the Year in the way in which he played and

1260
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Speaker 8: what he did. And I know I don't want to

1261
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 8: re harp on what took place in Texas the last

1262
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 8: game of the season, the playoffs. But I will say this,

1263
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 8: he certainly made his presence felt in that football game

1264
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 8: despite the loss.

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00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 2: Yes he did, Yes he did. Dryde will stay with

1266
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: you for the next one. Denzel Ward.

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00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 8: We saw that when Denzel Ward is not in our secondary,

1268
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 8: we're not the same secondary. Denzel Ward doesn't have much

1269
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 8: to say, but he lets his play speak for him,

1270
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 8: and he does a lot of loud talking went on

1271
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 8: that football field because he's a tremendous football player. And again,

1272
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 8: I can't say it enough. When he was not out there,

1273
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 8: we were not the same unit. We were not the

1274
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 8: same in the secondary. We're not as efficient and potent.

1275
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 8: So denz Award is pivotal to our success and we

1276
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 8: found it out for the times in which he was away.

1277
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 8: But when he was on the football field, guys, he

1278
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 8: was spectacular.

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01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 5: He's one of the best man the man corners in

1280
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 5: the league. He is an absolute difference maker. I think

1281
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 5: at one point two thirds of the touchdowns we allowed

1282
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 5: through the air, which were not many, happened when he

1283
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 5: was not on the field. So yeah, he is a

1284
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 5: huge difference maker and a true number one corner.

1285
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the best mirror corner in the league. Didn't

1286
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 2: but you put it up there, so the team just

1287
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: wait in a little bit. Finally for you, Z, Dustin Hopkins.

1288
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 5: Probably that player acquisition of the off season, right, I mean.

1289
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 3: Of the off season. Yeah, I think that's fair trade.

1290
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 5: And forget a seventh round pick. You cut kde York,

1291
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 5: which had to be a very difficult decision given the

1292
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 5: investment that was made in him and the fact that

1293
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 5: he does have incredible natural talent. You bring in Dustin

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Speaker 5: Hopkins in this season would not be what it was

1295
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 5: without him, I mean was if he doesn't get hurt.

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01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 5: He sets the Browns franchise record for most points in

1297
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 5: the season. He was just a couple I think three

1298
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 5: at the time that he got hurt behind Jim Brown.

1299
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 5: He did not miss from fifty plus. He set a

1300
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 5: record for the most consecutive games with a fifty plus make.

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01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 5: He had game winners against Baltimore, He had game winners

1302
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 5: against the Steelers. He had game winners. We would don't

1303
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 5: beat Indy without him. He made a couple of bombs

1304
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 5: in that game. He was an absolute difference maker and

1305
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 5: incredibly valuable. I said he would be one of the

1306
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 5: five people you talk about being the MVP of the

1307
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 5: team this year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and prior to Flacco fever, it wasn't for d Hop.

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Speaker 8: There's a possibility we do not make the playoffs because

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Speaker 8: he had so many pivotal kicks to save the day

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Speaker 8: and to just once again put that Special Teams unit

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Speaker 8: back in the space to where you said, you know what,

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Speaker 8: we could trust you guys. Again, ultimately, when he got

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Speaker 8: hurt trying to run down a kick in Houston, that

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01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 8: harmed us to a large degree. But again, the acquisition

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01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 8: of d Hop to the team, even what it meant

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01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 8: and how he just fit right in along with the

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Speaker 8: other guys that came in the latter part of the

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Speaker 8: season was just so impressive. And again I can't wait

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Speaker 8: to see what he does out of injury this upcoming

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01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 8: season because he was certainly on his way to breaking

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Speaker 8: some records and it's fair to say he might have won

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Speaker 8: Special Teams Player of the Year. How do he kept

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Speaker 8: it going?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely is in play. Always a pleasure, buddy,

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for.

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Speaker 3: Your time today.

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Speaker 8: A pleasure, guys, And again I can't tell you bo,

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Speaker 8: how great it was of being Houston when we went

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Speaker 8: to that spot.

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Speaker 3: Was mats for you? It's amazing. That's might be my

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Speaker 3: favorite answer on that show.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to shout out for making me eat

1334
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 7: a thousand calorie piece of dessert that still was in

1335
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Speaker 7: my stomach twelve hours.

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Speaker 6: We all woke up the next day like, why did

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Speaker 6: we do? That?

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Speaker 4: Was good?

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01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 3: Way then we go? Didn't we go? A little turf

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Speaker 3: and turf for you and I? We did little turf

1341
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Speaker 3: and turf, well a little.

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Speaker 5: I think you had a bone in fila if I'm

1343
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 5: not mistaken, and I had the lamb chops, nice little turf.

1344
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Speaker 3: Like the turf. All I know is the food just

1345
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 3: kept coming.

1346
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 6: And it was good.

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Speaker 3: It's very good. Yes, quick. They know what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: They you know what they're doing, how to do it? Yeah?

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01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff, Buddy, good talking to grod Alright, guys,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll put.

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Speaker 2: Ourselves in the positions of Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 2: coming up next, Jake Trotter coming up. Around two thirty five.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Cleveland Brown Zailee on eight fifty ESPN.

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Speaker 3: Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Cleveland Brown Season review show, brought

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Speaker 2: Cleveland browns Stadium dot com slash Rolling Stones for more

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Speaker 2: information on that. You know, we're a ways into this

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Speaker 2: year in review show, and there were so much chaos

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Speaker 2: and up and downs and peaks and valleys on the

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01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 2: offense and even things that were outside of it. There

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01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: was one constant, though, and it was this defense. And

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Speaker 2: it started with the hire of Jim Schwartz, and it

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01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 2: was I like what Jim said in the first hour

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01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: when he talked about this, these are blue blood players.

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Speaker 2: What he meant by that is these are all guys

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Speaker 2: drafted to be stars.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: But they hadn't quite We'd seen flashes from all of

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01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 2: them in consistent flash obviously for Miles and Denzel when healthy,

1375
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Speaker 2: but we hadn't seen it all come together. And then

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01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 2: it all did.

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Speaker 3: Boy did it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: This was a dominant defense and it started with what

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01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 5: do you have to do in the modern NFL? You

1381
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 5: got to be able to stop the pass. The Browns

1382
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 5: were number two against the past. When it was all said,

1383
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 5: Don Carolina got just inside of them. When the season ended,

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01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 5: they gave three one hundred and forty nine yards in

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01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 5: terms of yards per attempt. They were number one in

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Speaker 5: the NFL in terms of completion percentage allowed. They were

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Speaker 5: number one in the NFL in terms of interceptions, They

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Speaker 5: were third in the NFL. They had eighteen interceptions this season.

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Speaker 5: Only the Bears and Niners had more. And then of

1390
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 5: course they were number one in quarterback rating allowed. So

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Speaker 5: this was a defense that was elite in that regard.

1392
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 5: They did everything that they needed to do, and it started.

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01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 5: It was all three levels. You had stars at all

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01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 5: three levels. And you know, we didn't even get to

1395
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 5: have Grant Delpit finish out the season, which was unfortunate.

1396
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 5: He played so well and earned himself a new contract.

1397
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 5: But this was this was a defense of great consequence.

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Speaker 5: I mean really, it was the best defense in the

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01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 5: NFL period. You know, you couldn't throw it on us,

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01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 5: you really couldn't run the ball on us very well,

1401
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 5: and you were able to sack the quarterback, take the

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01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 5: football away. You were the number one third down defense.

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Speaker 5: You know, we did so many things that were historic

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01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 5: in terms of what we did this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 5: The one area and you could say that you can

1407
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 5: clean up is the red zone. We were not a

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01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 5: great red zone or a goal line defense. And if

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Speaker 5: we can clean those things up, this team might set

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Speaker 5: more records in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing that I think was so special

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01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: about it was how good it was at home. Unbelievable,

1414
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 2: so that there was that thing of like when you

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01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 2: went down to the lake and that defense played, it

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01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: was the heartbeat of the stadium and the city was

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01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: all there. And there are a few things that it's

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Speaker 2: you know, you think about, like the iconic lineup introductions

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01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: in those things like you're always going to get you know,

1420
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: from Saint Vincent Saint Mary High School in Akron, Ohio,

1421
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: Like that's always going to be there, yep. But when

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01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 2: Miles gets introduced here, it's the loudest the stadium gets

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01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 2: and he his this season for him and he has

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Speaker 2: been a defensive Player of the Year worthy player for

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01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 2: a long time. But you got to win it, and

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01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 2: in order to win it, and you start to be

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Speaker 2: able to put yourself in the conversation.

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Speaker 3: We talk about the Hall of Fame all the time.

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Speaker 2: He's obviously off to a Hall of Fame start to

1430
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: his career, yes, but in order to be one of

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01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 2: those guys who plays in the big the best game

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01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 2: the world's ever seen, Like you go play the space

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01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: Jam game, you got to stack these things. You got

1434
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: to stack Defensive Player of the Year, you got to

1435
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: stack all pros. But you gotta have it on the resume.

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Speaker 2: You got to be able to look back and go,

1437
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 2: that guy won Defensive Player of the Year. And so

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01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: for him to be able to do that, we know

1439
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: what it meant to him. But it wasn't just on

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01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 2: the field for Miles this year. It's the way he

1441
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Speaker 2: carried himself.

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Speaker 3: Buddy.

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01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 2: He was out there chestier than we've ever seen him.

1444
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: I mean this the crossover. It was week one, Week one,

1445
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: jumping over centers to block field goals like it just

1446
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: had it all. And to me, this was like everyone

1447
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 2: has known who Miles Garrett has been for a long

1448
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: time and now it is just finally coming together in

1449
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 2: the biggest way possible. In part and the other thing

1450
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: like he doesn't get the recognition if you don't win.

1451
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Speaker 2: He doesn't win Defensive Player of the Year if you

1452
01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 2: don't go eleven and six.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't.

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01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 2: You know, when Defensive Player of the Year, if your

1455
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: defense isn't ranked the way that it's ranked, you have

1456
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 2: to have those things too correct.

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Speaker 5: It was, Yeah, he had it all and yeah, he's listen,

1458
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 5: he's on my team that's gonna take down Peter King's team,

1459
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 5: even though I can't use any of his players. Yea

1460
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 5: again after the quarterback on my team there. Yeah, when

1461
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 5: you're the best player on the number one overall defense,

1462
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 5: you know, there's something very very special about that. And again,

1463
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 5: I like that we got away from I think ten

1464
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 5: years ago the sack swoon that he had at the

1465
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 5: end of the year would have cost him the award. Yeah,

1466
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 5: but people have gotten so much smarter about the game

1467
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 5: that really it clearly didn't impact him because he won

1468
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 5: it and he's been just just incredible.

1469
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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: Part of it is, and here's another thing, this is

1471
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 5: kind of inside the game, right, is that people don't

1472
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 5: realize we're not only is he getting double or triple

1473
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 5: teamed teams average because they are so afraid of him.

1474
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 5: We're always one of the top one to two or

1475
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 5: three in terms of time to throw against. Yeah, teams

1476
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 5: alter their complete DNA to get football because they can't

1477
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 5: hold it because Miles Garrett will wreck those games. And

1478
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,879
Speaker 5: so that's incredible. By the way, here's the Browns defense

1479
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three. You mentioned at home fourteen points

1480
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 5: a game, two hundred and fifteen yards a game, thirty

1481
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 5: two sacks, fewest points in the league allowed at home. Obviously,

1482
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 5: here are some of the things that they did. Total

1483
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 5: yards per game this year, which was the best since

1484
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 5: twenty and fourteen. Seattle opponent three and out percentage thirty

1485
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 5: three point three, the best sense the two thousand and

1486
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 5: nine Jets opponent yards per drive. Teams average twenty yards

1487
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Speaker 5: per drive against the Browns, since that's the best sense.

1488
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 5: The two thousand and eight Pittsburgh Steelers opponent first downs

1489
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 5: per game fourteen point nine, the best since the two

1490
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Speaker 5: thousand and nine New York Jets. So we did, I mean,

1491
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Speaker 5: this was a historic thing. They also forced a three

1492
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 5: and out. As I said, thirty three percent of drives.

1493
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Speaker 5: That is just that's a staggering, staggering percentage.

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Speaker 2: And there's there's other parts of this too, because it

1495
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: is still a young part of its prime defense. There

1496
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: a lot of them are just getting their second contract.

1497
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: They're just coming into their own in that sense. So

1498
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 2: it's gonna be together for a while. And you mentioned

1499
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: earlier in the show Alex Right, that's the type of

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01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 2: payoff that you need, is you need Alex Wright to

1501
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: come along so that you can use funds in other places.

1502
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 2: And the fact that he did was an incredible shine

1503
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 2: on the end of the season where we were dealing

1504
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: with things left and right, like the Delpit injury kind

1505
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 2: of comes out of it. You're like, really, now he's

1506
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 2: done too that he was great, So you have that

1507
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: organizational depth in the secondary. So you've got this a

1508
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: generational player at defensive end. You've Dalvin Tomlinson was very good,

1509
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 2: Zadarius Smith was very good this year. The linebacker play

1510
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 2: a walk back in the mix, and then Jay Okay,

1511
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: we've talked about. But then you have these three corners

1512
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 2: and when you think about that's why I thought about

1513
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 2: when I was thinking about this defense, you think about,

1514
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: is that the best unit the Cleveland Browns have had

1515
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 2: since when? I'm not sure what the answer to that is,

1516
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: but since a long time is the answer. Because when

1517
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,759
Speaker 2: you're talking about the number one total defense in the league.

1518
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 2: You're talking about a defense that can win divisions, that

1519
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: can make runs in the playoffs. The offense was a total,

1520
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 2: it was a moving parts every week, but they were

1521
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 2: there time in and time out. And I do think

1522
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 2: that kind of the DNA of these type of towns.

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01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a reason that the Chicago Bears eighty

1524
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Speaker 2: five defense is the most popular thing that ever has

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01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: happened in Chicago. I mean, you could argue that they're

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01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 2: every bit is popular as Jordan nothing about that. That's

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01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: not an overstatement. So the same thing happens here, of

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01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: course with these guys. That's the same thing the monsters

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01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 2: of the Midway. Absolutely, the steel curtain in Pittsburgh, this

1530
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 2: part of the country, we like to punch you in

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01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 2: the mouth. And so they fit the DNA, and none

1532
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 2: of it happens. I don't think without Jim Schwartz. He

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01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 2: was the chef that could put the ingredients together.

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Speaker 5: He did, and you're going to have a lot of

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01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 5: those to your point ingredients. Back, here's who we've got

1536
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 5: to worry about in terms of being unrestricted free agents

1537
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 5: off of the defense. So the defensive tackle room You've

1538
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 5: got a few Maurice Hurst, Jordan Elliott, Chilby Harris. So

1539
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 5: you got Dalvin, you need Siaki get a step up.

1540
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 5: You probably maybe a draft another one in there as well,

1541
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 5: But he's got some veterans. I think Maurice Hurst would

1542
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 5: certainly like to be back. All of those guys played

1543
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,799
Speaker 5: pretty well defensive end. The only one that's not back

1544
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 5: for sure is Zadarius and I'm sure he would want

1545
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 5: to come back. But you got Obo's everybody else is

1546
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 5: under contract. Linebackers, you got some here, Anthony Walker, Junior,

1547
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 5: Kanashik Phillips, Taki Takei, Matthew Adams, so some key special

1548
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 5: teams guys yep. Then Mike Ford and the secondary key

1549
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 5: special team guy and then the veterans that were signed

1550
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 5: the end of your John Harmon as well as Rodney

1551
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 5: McCloud who's on a one year deal but maybe he'd

1552
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 5: like to come back. And then and Corey Borkis as

1553
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 5: a punter. But on the defense, your principal guys, when

1554
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 5: you think about Miles and Dalvin, they're back. J Oka,

1555
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 5: he's back, the three corners back, Thornhill, Delpit back back.

1556
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 3: Like your core. You're running this back in large part.

1557
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, and this so now when you think about that,

1558
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 2: you just went over those changes. Now it's just about

1559
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 2: taking the next step and for them to be considered

1560
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 2: in all time defense. Now you've got to get into

1561
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 2: the playoffs and make a win or two. You've got

1562
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 2: to go into the postseason, get to an AFC Championship game,

1563
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 2: go smother somebody somewhere in a divisional round. That that's

1564
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 2: the only thing missing on the resume, because everything else

1565
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 2: is there. We tackle the individual feats this season long overdue,

1566
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 2: Miles getting that Defensive Player of the Year, and now

1567
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 2: for this defense to go down as an all time

1568
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: great and be in those fun conversations with Seattle or

1569
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 2: the Jets defense with Rex Ryan.

1570
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 3: You don't necessarily have to win the Super Bowl.

1571
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 2: You have to be a constant menace in the postseason

1572
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 2: in order to have those things. And I do think

1573
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 2: there's the pieces for it. And I think the collective

1574
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 2: swagger of them that was brought out by Jim Schwartz

1575
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: travels that's.

1576
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 3: Not going anywhere.

1577
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 2: They are boisterous, they are chesty, they are full of swagger,

1578
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 2: bad assery. As Jarrod put it, a very well, very

1579
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: very well way to put that, so that they will

1580
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 2: be here for a very very long time in terms

1581
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Speaker 2: of their focus. Coming up next, Jake Trotter will give

1582
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: us his perspective on the season. You'll listen to Cleveland

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01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 2: Brown's Daily's Year Interview show right here on a fifty

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Speaker 2: ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: So you're listening to the Cleveland brown Season Review Show,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio

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Speaker 1: on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 6: WS.

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Speaker 2: Billy Joel Rod Sewar together for the first time ever.

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Speaker 2: It's Friday, September thirteenth. Cleveland Brown Stadium. Tickets are on

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four for more information.

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Speaker 9: Billy and Ro.

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Speaker 2: It's Billy, Joel and Rod Sewart together for one night only.

1595
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Speaker 2: As we continue with the Browns Year in Review show,

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01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 2: we had a on the Twisted Art Iced tea hotline

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Speaker 2: official sponsor your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. He

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Speaker 2: is our great friend, Jake Trotter, ESPN, NFL Nation Reporter.

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Speaker 2: There there's a book to be written about that season,

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Speaker 2: my friend, and perhaps you will write it. I hope

1601
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 2: if you are then. I hope I'm not breaking any news,

1602
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: but you could certainly do it.

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01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 3: How would you?

1604
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 2: What would the when you put this season into perspective

1605
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 2: and I say twenty twenty three Cleveland Browns, What are

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01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 2: the first things that come to mind?

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Speaker 10: I thought it was a lot of twenty twenty three.

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01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 10: I thought it was a lot of fun, didn't you guys?

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01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 10: It was like fun season. I mean it was all

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01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 10: over the place. It was you know, five different quarterbacks

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01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,759
Speaker 10: and elite defense that had.

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Speaker 9: Some historical performances.

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01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 10: Joe Flacco coming out of nowhere to win comeback Player

1614
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 10: of the Year. I've covered the Browns for five seasons.

1615
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 10: This was the most fun I've had covering the team.

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01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 3: It was fun. It was magical, as improbable, it was Brazilian.

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01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 3: It was a lot of things.

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01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 2: But you also had these incredible valleys. I mean, you

1619
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 2: have like these catastrophic injuries Jake that like the when

1620
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb goes down, you just go, my god, not him, anybody.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And and you know, coming out of this season

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01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 10: and although went right, typically you would say, okay man,

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01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 10: there's a lot to really carry over into twenty twenty four,

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01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 10: And there is to some degree particularly defensively. But because

1625
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,520
Speaker 10: of the injuries, it's almost like we're back to last offseason,

1626
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 10: where like I don't really know what to make of

1627
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 10: the offense going into this year's opener. I mean, you know,

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01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 10: Nick Chubb probably not going to be ready to go

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01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 10: for the opener, and then, you know, to be fair

1630
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 10: when he gets back, you know, I think it's going

1631
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 10: to be not fair to him to expect.

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01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 9: Him to immediately be the runner he was.

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Speaker 10: And by the way, guys, Nick Chubb was going to

1634
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 10: have his best season before that injury. He looked as

1635
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 10: good or better than he's ever looked in my view.

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01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 10: He was averaging what six point one yards per carried

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01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 10: before that Pittsburgh injury. But you know, he's been the

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01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 10: heart and soul of this team and like now you know,

1639
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 10: you can't really count on him to be that player

1640
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 10: right away. And then obviously the quarterback situation is its

1641
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 10: own thing. So yeah, as fun as twenty twenty three was,

1642
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 10: you know that there's some things you really can't take

1643
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 10: away from it because they had to play with so

1644
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 10: many replacement guys.

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Speaker 3: That's what I said.

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01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 2: It is a time capsule, and that's why it's not

1647
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 2: a chapter of a book. It's a book on its own, yep,

1648
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 2: because there is no carryover, there's nothing before that kind

1649
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 2: of carried into it. I mean, my god, Joe Flacco

1650
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 2: played the last five games.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's Joe Flacco. Joe Flacker played the lot

1652
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 3: even start five quarterback like this. This was nuts. There's

1653
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 3: absolutely nuts.

1654
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, and he played so well that he won Comeback

1655
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 10: Player of the Year despite playing only five games, he

1656
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 10: won four of them, you know, got the Browns into

1657
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 10: the playoffs. Obviously, he didn't play great in the second

1658
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 10: half in Houston the second time around, but before that, man,

1659
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 10: he was. He was terrific and really gave the Browns

1660
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 10: a jolt that they needed.

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01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 9: I mean, I felt like that Denver game on the road.

1662
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Speaker 10: You know, I thought dtr was actually kind of turning

1663
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 10: a quarter like playing pretty well. But didn't you guys

1664
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 10: feel like, man, this this team feels like it's fading

1665
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 10: a little bit. And Joe Flacco comes in the next week,

1666
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 10: starts against the Rams, and it was like, these guys

1667
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 10: have something to re energize them with down the stretch.

1668
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Speaker 10: And that's definitely what happened. I mean, Flacco wasn't perfect,

1669
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 10: you know, the interceptions were, you know, a big achilles heel,

1670
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 10: but he made so many plays and it just felt

1671
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 10: like this entire team was buoyed by that. And I

1672
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 10: don't know that they they make the run that they

1673
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 10: do without him. I mean, I just kind of felt

1674
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 10: like everything was starting to slip away in Denver and

1675
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 10: they completely reverse course because of what Joe Flacco brought

1676
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 10: to the table.

1677
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was again special, magical, hard to believe. Joe

1678
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 5: Flacco was incredible. But while this season was great, the

1679
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,759
Speaker 5: Browns obviously felt the changes needed to be made, especially

1680
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 5: on the offensive side of the ball. So when you

1681
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 5: think about trying to take that next step, and all

1682
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 5: has to do with Deshaun Watson. So what do you

1683
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 5: think about the coaching staff changes, Ken Dorsey, Tommy Reese

1684
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 5: coming in here on the offensive, Douce Staley on the

1685
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 5: offensive side of the ball.

1686
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Speaker 10: Well, they've done everything that they can do to put

1687
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 10: Watson in position to succeed, and I think that they're

1688
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 10: going to be aggressive this offseason and trying to get

1689
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 10: more weapons around him.

1690
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 9: Particularly the receiver position. We'll see what happens.

1691
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 10: I don't know who's going to be available, Maybe nobody

1692
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 10: of the top line guys. But they're gonna be aggressive

1693
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 10: and trying to upgrade the talent around him at the

1694
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 10: skill positions. In my view, yeah, I mean it's going

1695
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 10: to be a completely different staff. I mean, like I

1696
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 10: didn't anticipate that happening coming into the offseason. I thought

1697
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 10: there might be a changer too, But to turn over

1698
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 10: what eighty nine percent of the offensive staff that that

1699
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 10: surprised me. And it's gonna give them a chance to

1700
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 10: reevaluate a bunch of different things. One is Kevin Stefanski,

1701
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 10: you know, the right play caller for Deshaun Watson or

1702
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 10: is it Ken Dorsey or can Dorsey bring things that

1703
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 10: can get you know, Watson going a little bit more,

1704
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 10: at least playing consistently a little bit more. You know

1705
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 10: what ideas the other guys have to add to the offense,

1706
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 10: and sometimes you need you just need, you know, kind

1707
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 10: of a change, you know, some fresh looks at it.

1708
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 10: I mean, we saw that work wonders for the defense,

1709
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 10: and I thought they had a lot of good defensive coaches.

1710
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 9: In twenty twenty two.

1711
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 10: It just didn't just didn't work out for whatever reason.

1712
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 10: But you know, Swartz comes in and often you know,

1713
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 10: they for perfect scheme for the personnel and in a

1714
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 10: way they went. So we'll see if that happens offensively,

1715
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 10: I will say I think will probably agree this is

1716
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 10: a you know, I feel like we said it last year,

1717
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 10: but it really is true.

1718
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 9: Now. It's a huge year for Watson.

1719
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 10: I mean, if this is gonna happen, yes, it's got

1720
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 10: to happen this year. And if it doesn't happen this year,

1721
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 10: then you know, with everything you've invested in this team,

1722
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 10: you're gonna have to start looking at some contingency options.

1723
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 10: So it's not just that he's got to play well

1724
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 10: and play consistently well, even though the flashes have been there.

1725
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 9: He's got to be healthy.

1726
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 10: Like they cannot go through another year where they get

1727
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 10: eight games from him, but that would just be a

1728
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 10: total catastrophe of this for this trade. And so you

1729
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 10: know they've they've got to He's got to protect himself.

1730
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 9: He can't try to.

1731
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 10: Take on safeties, and that's gonna be a delicate balance

1732
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 10: because a lot of the plays he made. You remember

1733
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 10: that second half in Baltimore where he played the best

1734
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 10: half of his Browns tenure. You know he was fourteen

1735
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 10: or fourteen and that sticks out. But if you watch

1736
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,680
Speaker 10: that game, it didn't really hurt Baltimore through the air

1737
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,719
Speaker 10: as much as he did with his legs. He made

1738
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 10: so many plays with his legs. I think he threw

1739
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 10: for like one thirty you know, which.

1740
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 9: Is which is good.

1741
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 10: But there was like four or five first downs that

1742
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 10: he just manufactured by scrambling and making it happen. And

1743
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 10: so he's got to balance that with being healthy. And

1744
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 10: you know he's going to be coming off arm surgery,

1745
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 10: So what does that look like? You know, in mini

1746
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 10: camp and training camp, it's going to be fascinating. But

1747
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 10: they've done everything that they can do. And if you

1748
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 10: know he could play up to the level that he

1749
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 10: has played out before, there's no reason this team can't

1750
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 10: make a deep run into the playoffs next season.

1751
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 2: Well yeah, And I think the other part of this

1752
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: is you just watched a twenty eight year old in

1753
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 2: your conference win his third super Bowl, and you have

1754
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 2: a team that is primarily in its prime or the

1755
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,719
Speaker 2: very beginning of its prime, and so that the time

1756
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 2: to strike is now. I mean, that's it. Like we

1757
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 2: talked about this earlier, Jake, like this was a we

1758
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 2: agree with you, This was the most fun that we've

1759
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 2: ever had being certainly that we've had being part of

1760
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 2: the Browns, but it was also something that had a

1761
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 2: concrete ceiling on.

1762
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 3: It, like it was going to stop at some point.

1763
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 2: This was never going to be a team that was

1764
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 2: going to make a run to the super Bowl or

1765
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 2: anything like that. There was a ceiling that this team

1766
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 2: could be because of some of the limitations and because

1767
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 2: of some of the injuries. And so when you have

1768
01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 2: this turnover, it's because you have to find a way

1769
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 2: to beat that wizard out of Kansas City. You got

1770
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 2: to find a way to first and foremost win your

1771
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,760
Speaker 2: division and the ding near unanimous MVP out of Baltimore.

1772
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 2: So that's what this whole off season's about. And yeah,

1773
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 2: that seems similar to the last couple off seasons, right.

1774
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, And they're gonna have to earn it this year.

1775
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 10: And I hate evaluating schedules in February because so much

1776
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 10: is gonna change and some of these teams are gonna

1777
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 10: look worse, some of these teams are gonna look better.

1778
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,719
Speaker 10: But I mean, they got a break in the schedule,

1779
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 10: like it was pretty favorable. You got, you know, basically

1780
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 10: hurt Joe Burrow and then no Joe Burrow.

1781
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 9: Although that game didn't matter, you know, you got.

1782
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 10: A lot of backup quarterbacks you got to face this

1783
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 10: year and next year. You look at the schedule and

1784
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 10: it is like it's gotta be, Nathan, you tell me, like,

1785
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,919
Speaker 10: it's got to be on paper, the best home schedule

1786
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 10: in terms of quality of quarterback that the Browns have

1787
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 10: definitely faced since ninety nine and maybe even you know,

1788
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 10: way before that.

1789
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:05,759
Speaker 9: I mean, they've.

1790
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 10: Got, off the top of my head, tell me who

1791
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 10: I'm missing. You got Mahomes, you got Herbert, you got

1792
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 10: Dak obviously, Burrow and Lamar, You've got Tua, I believe,

1793
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 10: and I feel like there's like somebody else that they

1794
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 10: have of consequence coming to town. And then you gotta

1795
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 10: go play. You know, gotta go play. You know, Trevor Lawrence,

1796
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 10: you gotta go play. You know, Burrow and Lamar on

1797
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 10: the road again. Jalen Hurts is on the schedule. You

1798
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 10: know you're probably gonna have to play, you know, Drake

1799
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 10: May in that Washington game. I mean it is it

1800
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 10: is absolutely loaded. Like if you don't have tickets for

1801
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 10: next year, this would be the year to have it

1802
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 10: because you're gonna see you, I don't know, eight of

1803
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 10: the top ten quarterbacks of the NFL in that stadium.

1804
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 9: It's crazy.

1805
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 5: Yeah you, And it's it's not just this year either,

1806
01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 5: but you're right. This year and in twenty twenty five.

1807
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 5: The way that it lines up, I was looking at

1808
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 5: I was talking about this with somebody last night. In

1809
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five, the Browns home schedule is wild in

1810
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 5: terms of the things that are already set. I'm gonna

1811
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 5: pull that up. But yeah, you are facing this is

1812
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 5: not an easy schedule. Twenty twenty five.

1813
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 3: You get at home.

1814
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 5: Obviously Baltimore, Cincinnati, and the Steelers. Then you get the Bills,

1815
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 5: the Dolphins, the Packers, the Vikings.

1816
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 10: So there's twenty five who at twenty twenty four, there's

1817
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 10: like a really good team.

1818
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 9: I'm forgetting that. I feel like they're playing.

1819
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 3: I thought you had.

1820
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 5: Let's see, you've got Ravens, Bengals, Steelers, Chiefs, Chargers, Dolphins, Cowboys, Giants. Okay,

1821
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 5: so even though the Giants are the worst, they're the

1822
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 5: worst one on that, but I mean they're still the

1823
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 5: New York Giants.

1824
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 3: I mean it's a great homesteah, it's a great home.

1825
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 10: Slat Yeah, and then on the road you've got Philly,

1826
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 10: Jacksonville obviously the.

1827
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 9: Three divisional games. Who else am I?

1828
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 5: Oh, Vegas, Vegas, Denver because we go to Denver. I

1829
01:25:55,120 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 5: feel like every single year every year, Denver, Vegas, Philly, Washington, Jacksonville,

1830
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 5: New Orleans, and then the division games.

1831
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 10: I I wonder look like like that might be, that

1832
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 10: might be in July than they look right now.

1833
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 9: Which team Vegas.

1834
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 10: I wonder if Vegas is gonna look more intriguing today

1835
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 10: depending on.

1836
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 9: What they do a quarterback.

1837
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 3: But I feel like.

1838
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 9: Team with Antonio Pears, no there.

1839
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 3: This is this is what happens.

1840
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 5: You play good season, you have a good record, You

1841
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 5: play a tough schedule because now you're matching up, your

1842
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 5: matchups are are much tougher than they had been in

1843
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 5: the past. You get the Dolphins right are is a

1844
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 5: non conference matchup game?

1845
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 3: And then the Jags.

1846
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean you can't You're not gonna get you know,

1847
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 10: like there were a couple of games this year where

1848
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 10: they just the Browns basically just had to show up

1849
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 10: and you feel like they were gonna win, like that

1850
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 10: Arizona game. Arizona, there's not a lot of that on

1851
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 10: the schedule this year, next year, So you're gonna you're

1852
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,040
Speaker 10: gonna have to earn it. But you know what, you

1853
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 10: gonna have to be all these teams anyway, if you

1854
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 10: want to get to where you want to go.

1855
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 9: I mean, look at Kansas City.

1856
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 10: They beat Miami, at Buffalo, at Baltimore and the forty

1857
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,560
Speaker 10: nine ers. I mean, they didn't get any break whatsoever.

1858
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 10: So I mean, you're gonna have to beat the best

1859
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:15,719
Speaker 10: to be the best.

1860
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 5: Now, one thing we talked about the schedule, we talked

1861
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 5: about who we're playing. We haven't talked about where we're playing,

1862
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 5: and Peter King said he felt like it might be

1863
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 5: likely that the Browns are going to Brazil, which would

1864
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 5: be the game against the Philadelphia Eagles.

1865
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 3: What are you hearing? Yeah, what can you tell us

1866
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 3: about this?

1867
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 10: I know, I don't know anything, but I think it's here.

1868
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 10: The Browns are going overseas, it feels like this year.

1869
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 10: So it's either Brazil or London against Jacksonville, right, you

1870
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:43,719
Speaker 10: would think it'd be one of those two.

1871
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 9: You know, they were supposed to go.

1872
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 10: In twenty twenty play Jacksonville in London and that game

1873
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 10: got nixed because of COVID. So the Browns are due

1874
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 10: for an international game, and yeah, I mean it, it

1875
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 10: feels like it feels like we we already know they're

1876
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 10: going to be on the road the weekend of that concert,

1877
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 10: right and by the way, I already have my tickets,

1878
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 10: so I'll be there.

1879
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, without a doubt. It's gonna be a great concert. So, uh,

1880
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 9: they're gonna be on the road.

1881
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 10: So that that that that increases the chances even more

1882
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 10: that it could be that Brazil game. And I've never

1883
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 10: been to South America before. Uh, that would be a

1884
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 10: wild first game against a really interesting opponent and a

1885
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 10: chance to to get off to a good start again.

1886
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 5: It would be wild, open up, back to back on

1887
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:40,480
Speaker 5: the road.

1888
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 10: CBD and Rio down there again. Yeah, yeah, that's right, Yeah, yeah,

1889
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 10: Sam Paula, Yeah.

1890
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 3: Rio would be a different scenario.

1891
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 2: CBD and Rio. That feels on brand. I don't you know,

1892
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:53,879
Speaker 2: I don't know about South.

1893
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 10: Feel like CBD and Rios would would have a different

1894
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 10: connotation to it.

1895
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 2: There's no question it would mean a lot to everybody. Jake,

1896
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 2: great talking to you, buddy. We'll see at the com vibe.

1897
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:04,520
Speaker 9: Okay, see you guys.

1898
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,800
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Speaker 5: Fun, and I think that was it brought so many

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Speaker 5: Bang Bang would say, was as good as it's ever been.

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