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Speaker 1: He's the Stage League Records.

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Speaker 2: We will sue you.

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Speaker 1: Tis the gunner.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to hang out. This is the Just Baseball Show.

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Speaker 2: I'm Peter Apple.

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Speaker 3: That's Jack McMullen, and we are joined by Dustin Demon,

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Speaker 3: our boy who's been on the podcast many times. But

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Speaker 3: normally we're playing GM, but I feel like this is

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Speaker 3: more of an open forum. This is your guys's opportunity

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Speaker 3: to come back at me and ARM when we played

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Speaker 3: GM on the podcast earlier.

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Speaker 2: Jack, Dustin, Hey, guys, doing did all right? Okay?

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Speaker 4: I mean I'm just out here chilling in Oklahoma. Woke

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Speaker 4: up about five thirty this morning for weights. It was

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Speaker 4: like thirty degrees outside, so you know, I'm from California,

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Speaker 4: so that sucked and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Not used to it.

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Speaker 4: So but doing pretty good overall.

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Speaker 2: When you talk about morning waits like what are you

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Speaker 2: working on right now?

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Speaker 4: No, we just get in there and we did like

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Speaker 4: like we just threw medballs around and got it tested

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Speaker 4: and stuff. So but other than that, just like doing

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Speaker 4: lists and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: Because you're a I mean, you're a college athlete right now,

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Speaker 3: you're junior, fifth year over at or Roberts University. What's

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Speaker 3: kind of how you feeling about the season. What are

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Speaker 4: Mostly just trying to build my arm up because I

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Speaker 4: go I played third base and left field, so I

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Speaker 4: got a couple of different arm slops that I got

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be thinking about mechanics or anything

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Speaker 2: Did you hit morning weights this morning? No, I did not.

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Speaker 2: I actually pulled in at three am and I Pete

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Speaker 2: texted me and said we have to record a podcast

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Speaker 2: tomorrow at seven am, and I said I can't do that,

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Speaker 2: and he said, you're getting up and doing it anyways.

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Speaker 2: So here I haven't so aggressive. I did not say that.

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Speaker 2: Here we are at seven am. Because because Pete made

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Speaker 2: me do this. Hey real quick though, for those not

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Speaker 2: watching on YouTube, Dustin is doing his best Ryan Schckler impression.

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Speaker 2: He's got a black beanie on, He's got thick rimmed

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Speaker 2: this guy is going through something emotionally right now, and

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Speaker 2: I think that we should just be here for him. Pete,

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Speaker 2: I think it's fair.

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Speaker 3: This is also a guy who I've known since I

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Speaker 3: and like a big jacket when it's seventy degrees in

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Speaker 3: Santa Barbara.

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Speaker 2: Growing up in Santa Barbara, we really have no.

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Speaker 3: Idea how to dress because we're basically living in a

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Speaker 2: Of the weather.

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Speaker 4: In my defense, it is cold outside.

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Speaker 2: That's fair, man. One more thing about Oral Roberts. Have

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Speaker 4: Uh No, I don't even know who that is.

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Speaker 2: You're kidding? No basketball player leading score in America? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like Oral Roberts got to the Sweet sixteen last year.

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Speaker 2: Your school that you're at right now, he's still there.

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Speaker 2: One of the best scorers in the country in men's

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Speaker 3: Dustin's like Belichick, He's just there for a business trip.

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Speaker 3: He's there to play baseball. He's not worried about That's

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Speaker 3: kind of like with me too, with the pop culture

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Speaker 2: I'm here to talk baseball. I don't know anything else.

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Speaker 2: We come from a very similar environment. This totally is

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Speaker 2: and leave because I have interest outside of this. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: The interest today is the freaking Los Angeles Dodgers and Dustin,

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Speaker 3: you and I when I was back in Santa Barbara,

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Speaker 3: we had about a five six hour discussion in a

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Speaker 3: jacuzzi just talking about the Los Angeles Dodgers, and kind

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Speaker 2: We might think.

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Speaker 3: You know, this Barren rotation, the fact that Max Schurzer

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Speaker 2: So when you're looking for to twenty twenty two, how

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Speaker 4: Okay, First of all, still the Los Angeles Dodgers. Still

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Speaker 4: we still got a kick after us here. But even

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Speaker 4: I listened to you in Arms like GM discussion about it,

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Speaker 2: Julio, Okay, I'm gonna stop you right there for a minute.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop you right there for one minute because

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Speaker 2: you you're saying that the rotation is barren and the

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Speaker 4: Okay, but you need guys to pick up innings, right

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Speaker 4: his defense, that's not enough.

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Speaker 2: You can't just have two guys. And then you're working

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Speaker 2: David Price and Tony Gonsolin. Yeah, but you know how

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Speaker 2: you know how bad the pirates want this right now?

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Speaker 2: It's like I don't care.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's fair that it's fair to say that we're

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Speaker 4: where's cleats that have cats on him? I just don't

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Speaker 4: Andrew he I mean, he's never been like great, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think the Dodgers definitely could unlock something

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Speaker 2: You're not confident.

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Speaker 4: No, I couldn't believe they gave him eight and a

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Speaker 4: So that's like three not so good starting pitchers. I

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Speaker 2: They are kind of all fives.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're all fives and two ones basically.

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Speaker 3: And that's why we made some of these trades. That's

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Speaker 3: you hear that, you're you're debating that the rotation might

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's do some math right now. Before we

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Speaker 2: do math, let's acknowledge the fact that there are several

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball teams that don't have anything close to

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Speaker 2: don't have ones in their row. What do you want

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Speaker 2: to do compare them to the Reds. No, I hear

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Speaker 2: we're talking to the Los Angeles Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: Talking about let's do some contenders here.

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Speaker 2: I know, listen, listen, you guys chose the Dodgers for

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Speaker 2: this week, so you bring me on. You know that

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Speaker 2: I'm going to have zero sympathy. I'm going to have

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Speaker 2: absolutely zero sympathy for your fair fair so bueler one

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Speaker 2: urius one. Add those together. That's two Gonsolyn Heeney and

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Speaker 2: Uh like a three point two? Yeah? So like a three,

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Speaker 2: Like you're averaging a three you're the Los Angeles Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: I agree, it's not good enough. So to jump that

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Speaker 2: If you're the Dodgers, you need that number hovering around two.

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Speaker 2: Nobody else in baseball is gonna hover around two unless

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Speaker 2: Corbin and Schurzer and Annabel Sanchez or Detroit did when Schureser,

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Speaker 2: Verland or Porcella were all there. You either luck into

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Speaker 3: Two, and there is a two, maybe a one, possibly

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Speaker 3: the greatest pitcher of our generation, Clayton Kershaw is kind

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Speaker 3: of sitting there waiting for a contract to be given

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Speaker 3: to him. But the Dodgers didn't offer him the qualifying offer,

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Speaker 4: I mean obviously disappointed, because I want the guy to

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Speaker 4: to do. I think the Dodgers are going to fully

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Speaker 4: of the vibes that he gives is just he just

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Speaker 4: I think he got his ring, he's got it all,

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Speaker 4: the he's got the Hall of Fame career already checklist,

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Speaker 4: and then I hope that he's recent with the Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think he can bank on it, dude,

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Speaker 4: He's not that old. I know, I know, but like

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Speaker 4: I don't know. He's had so much injury stuff over

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Speaker 4: other itches pitchers are not aging normally. He's aging like

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Speaker 4: on a normal path, Like he's thirty three and he's

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Speaker 4: throwing like twenty five hundred innings. Like your arm is

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Speaker 2: For one of those starters that we talked about. Okay,

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Speaker 2: him here. Well, I'm gonna take your last point, Pete

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Speaker 2: and save it and use it as blackmail. Uh noted

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Speaker 2: Yankee super fan Peter Apple just said he was a

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Speaker 2: fan of parody in Major League Baseball. I'm a fan

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Speaker 2: of parody. I'm a fan of parody. How you're a

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Speaker 2: Yankee fan? Just kidding? Like the Death Star, I know

441
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Speaker 2: you do? You like the death you like the evil Empire.

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Speaker 2: That's how this works. We're on like one for I

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Speaker 2: know you by now of a Yankee.

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Speaker 3: Fan wearing a Dodger hat right now, feeling you know

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Speaker 3: you're committed to the bit.

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Speaker 2: Good for you.

447
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Speaker 4: Admitted to the bit.

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Speaker 2: So like with Freeman, I don't have a groundbreaking take, like, yeah,

449
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Speaker 2: Freddy Freeman would be amazing with the Dodgers and like

450
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Speaker 2: they would just be right around. Like if you set

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Speaker 2: the over under for their win total at one hundred

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Speaker 2: and nine and a half games, I'm taking the over

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Speaker 2: if they have.

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Speaker 3: Like I just think we're kind of talking about this

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Speaker 3: casually when I think it has more legs than we

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Speaker 3: might think it does. The reason that the Alexanthopolis and

457
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Speaker 3: the Braves have not signed Freddy Freeman yet, there obviously

458
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Speaker 3: is a reason he has a price and the Braves

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Speaker 3: aren't willing to match it. Who's the one team right

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Speaker 3: now with infield problems that lacks a left handed bat?

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Speaker 3: That's he's just Angels Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: Do the Dodgers have infield problems?

463
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Speaker 2: I don't have infield problems.

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Speaker 3: Justin Turner is aging Corey Seeger left. We just talked

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Speaker 3: about how much. You think Gavin Luck sucks and Max

466
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Speaker 3: Munsey just has an elbow injury.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean there's no infield problems? There is it?

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Speaker 4: Okay problems monthsy Monsey likely isn't gonna miss any time

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Speaker 4: unless hopefully. Yeah, but I'm not going to assume that

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Speaker 4: he is.

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Speaker 3: And if if so, why not assume that he is.

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Speaker 3: I would assume that he is rather than not assuming

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Speaker 3: that he is.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna. I'm an optimist, Peter, I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna look for the best case scenario here, and that's

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Speaker 4: Max Munsey is healthy for opening day. Justin Turner's old,

477
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Speaker 4: but he still mashes Trey Turner, top three shortstop in

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Speaker 4: the league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Second, and then you got Chris Taylor or Gavin Lux Like,

481
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Speaker 4: there's no infield problems there, I mean, and Gavin Lux

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Speaker 4: could like he could be good.

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Speaker 2: You never know, Dustin, I think you just mentioned Michael Bush.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I did mention Michael Bush. Yes.

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Speaker 2: I like Michael Bush a lot. I like him a lot.

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Speaker 2: Had him on a previous podcast I was doing for

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Speaker 2: an interview and he was like great, Like you know,

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Speaker 2: you end the recording and it's just like a bunch

489
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Speaker 2: of green lights flashing. It's just like yes, like this works.

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Speaker 2: He was the most mature bat in the ACC his

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Speaker 2: last year at Carolina. I mean, this guy, the way

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Speaker 2: that he swung it is like wow, it looks like

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Speaker 2: he could hit two ten in major League baseball right

494
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Speaker 2: now as a junior in college with zero professional experience,

495
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Speaker 2: and like seeing him on the Cape had that same deal,

496
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Speaker 2: and then that ticked up to like two twenty, and

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Speaker 2: then when he got in with the Dodger system, I

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Speaker 2: see him as like, Okay, he can be in everyday

499
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Speaker 2: second basement of major League baseball. He's a left handed bat.

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Speaker 2: He can hit twenty to twenty five bombs. I really

501
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Speaker 2: like Michael Bush, and he's there like he's a college

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Speaker 2: bat season drafted in twenty nineteen. I want to say,

503
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Speaker 2: like with Bush, if lux fails, if the experiment just

504
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Speaker 2: fails and you got to dub him off for dirt cheap,

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Speaker 2: Bush is ready by the time that fails.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you. I'm with you, Michael Bush. Like he

507
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Speaker 4: managed it and manages at bats at a high level.

508
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Speaker 4: He's got juice, there's not too much swing a miss.

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Speaker 4: He's kind of like a super high floor bat. I

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Speaker 4: think he's a he's a good uh someone to fall on.

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Speaker 4: If Gavin Lux or Maxi Mounty he's heard, I think

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Speaker 4: he could be ready. Sure.

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Speaker 3: And with all that said, arm and I traded him

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Speaker 3: away with Clayton Beeter for Frankie Mantas. Is that when

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Speaker 3: you hear those two names, is that something that you

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Speaker 3: would do? And also we were talking about possibly Vargas

517
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Speaker 3: including him in a deal, but it seems like he's

518
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Speaker 3: the successor to Justin Turner at third base. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you like Edwin Rios, but are we projecting Edwin Rios

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Speaker 3: to be a legitimate starter moving forward?

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Speaker 2: Or you you like Vargus better?

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Speaker 4: I like Fargus better. I would not touch Fargus. I

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Speaker 4: don't think they are going to touch Fargus like his

524
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Speaker 4: his numbers are crazy for his age, and he's he's

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Speaker 4: just such a polished bat with upside. He's amazing. I

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Speaker 4: would I would package Clayton Beeter and Michael Bush for

527
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Speaker 4: Frankie Montes any day of the week. Former Dodger Frankie Montess.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you guys knew that, but he was

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Speaker 4: a former Dodger for.

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Speaker 2: Like white sock, frank.

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Speaker 4: There you go, he's been everywhere, but he's got nasty

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Speaker 4: stuff like yeah, sign me up. Dodgers will probably unlock

533
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Speaker 4: another gear, like you guys are saying Michael Bush, Like,

534
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Speaker 4: while he's an amazing prospect, I think there's guys in

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Speaker 4: the Dodger system who just the ceiling is just above

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Speaker 4: what he is, Like, no knock on him at all.

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Speaker 4: But the Dodger system is filled with guys that could

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Speaker 4: just be absolute monsters. So I don't think they would

539
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Speaker 4: parting with him would hurt their system too much. And

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Speaker 4: Frankie Montess would be a good guy to go get.

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Speaker 3: Is there anyone else in the system that you think

542
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Speaker 3: is untradeable?

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Speaker 4: Bobby Miller because he's got like four plus pitches when everything,

544
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Speaker 4: when everything's on, it's insane.

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Speaker 3: Gosh about Bobby Miller. I mean Jack spect to freak

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Speaker 3: out when he said that name too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Jack, you've probably seen it more than

548
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Speaker 4: I have. I mean, from what I've seen, I mean,

549
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Speaker 4: it's is amazing, amazing stuff. And I thought Arms Sandy

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Speaker 4: all contract comp was really good. What do you think, Jack?

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Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. And let me just

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Speaker 2: like preface anything we talk about in terms of like

553
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Speaker 2: trade returns with the Dodgers if they're going to give

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Speaker 2: up prospects for big leaguers and like big league stars,

555
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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what prospects you throw in there, like

556
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Speaker 2: I have, I don't cringe whatsoever with a Bush and

557
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Speaker 2: beat her for a big league guy, because the Dodgers,

558
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Speaker 2: we've learned over the last five to ten years, they

559
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Speaker 2: are a conveyor belt when it comes to prospects one

560
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Speaker 2: through eighty are all major league possible. Like they are

561
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Speaker 2: that good at developing talent and seeking talent. So like,

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Speaker 2: if you trade Bush away and you're looking for the

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Speaker 2: future third basement of the Dodgers. I think Brandon Lewis

564
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Speaker 2: is one of the best power bats in minor league baseball.

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Speaker 2: He hit like forty bombs. He just finished the year

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Speaker 2: in High A over Low A and Hi A. I

567
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Speaker 2: think he hit like a combined thirty eight to forty bombs.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he actually looks like Mike Bustakis right now,

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Speaker 2: Like he's a massive, massive human being. So like, I

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Speaker 2: just think there's always a replacement here. But getting back

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Speaker 2: to Bobby Miller, he's one of the two guys that

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Speaker 2: I think you cannot trade away if you're the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: I think it's him and Kartaya with Miller like he's

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Speaker 2: got ace stuff, like he don't want to trade away

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Speaker 2: a possible ace. And I think that's what Bobby is

576
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Speaker 2: because he's going to be sitting ninety eight when he

577
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Speaker 2: comes up with this nasty, fucking breaking pitch and like

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Speaker 2: he's got command too. He didn't have command at Louisville

579
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Speaker 2: for a little bit, but now he's got it. And

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Speaker 2: this guy has like the thickest thighs you've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he gets after it. I saw him after

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Speaker 2: his freshman year at Louisville and he was skinny, like

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Speaker 2: he was a small, skinny kid. And then I'm watching

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Speaker 2: like ACC Network Extra and I'm watching Louisville in a

585
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Speaker 2: midweek game and Bobby Miller's throwing his sophomore year. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: who the hell is that beefcake? That dude knows how

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Speaker 2: to bulk Dustin.

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Speaker 3: I had at a take earlier because when he mentioned

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Speaker 3: Diego Kartaya, that just kind of sprung this to me.

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Speaker 3: I think Will Smith is the best catcher in baseball.

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Speaker 3: I think his bat is far above anybody at the

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Speaker 3: catcher position right now. And I think he's an improving framer.

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Speaker 3: And Arm had a great point. As stolen bases become

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Speaker 3: less and less optimal in Major League baseball, guys just

595
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Speaker 3: aren't stealing bases as much. The arm doesn't matter as much.

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Speaker 3: Still matters. You got to control the run, but not

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Speaker 3: as much. And I would call that the weak point

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Speaker 3: of Will Smith's game. Are you in the same boat.

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Speaker 3: I know you're a Dodger fan, put your bias aside

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Speaker 3: for a little bit. Would you take Will Smith over

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Speaker 3: any other in baseball?

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Speaker 4: I would it would be either him or J. T.

603
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Speaker 4: Real Muto because real Muto can is like crazy fast,

604
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Speaker 4: and he's probably the best defensive catcher while also a

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Speaker 4: solid bat. But I think pound for pound over the

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Speaker 4: next three years, I'm taking Will Smith for sure. The

607
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Speaker 4: guy is he's like the air apparent to Justin Turner,

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Speaker 4: like that guy that can hit elite pitching like he

609
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Speaker 4: can hit elite pitchers pitches like that's Will Smith. So

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Speaker 4: I mean the bat is insane. Just to preserve him

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Speaker 4: long term, I think Arm had a good point, like

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Speaker 4: throw him at third base, you know, a couple times

613
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Speaker 4: a week, especially if this DH goes to the National

614
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Speaker 4: League you can do so many things of this Dodgers

615
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: roster because everybody's so positionally flexible. But yeah, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 4: i'd agree with that take. I think Will Smith's the best.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Will Smith's the best?

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Speaker 4: Jack?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's probably either him, like moving forward

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Speaker 2: over the next couple of years, if I'm taking anybody,

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Speaker 2: it's between Will Smith, Chance Cisco and Matt Wieters. Is

622
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Speaker 2: Weiders still playing?

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Speaker 3: I woulder if Adley Rutchman when Hill take over the

624
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Speaker 3: top catcher in baseball, I don't even know necessarily if

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Speaker 3: he's like going to be better than Will Smith. And

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Speaker 3: I also have this hot take that I think Francisco

627
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Speaker 3: alberezill end up being better than Aadlie Rutchman.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree with you, Like we can share

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Speaker 2: that hot take. I'm cool with that now, Like Adley's

630
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Speaker 2: really good. But like Adley I think is going to

631
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Speaker 2: look the same with his bad year in his great year,

632
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Speaker 2: Like he's always going to be a really good catcher.

633
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Speaker 2: But I don't think he's going to be best catcher

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Speaker 2: in baseball. I think he's gonna be top three for

635
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Speaker 2: the next fifteen years. I don't think he's going to

636
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Speaker 2: be number one at any point. But I also don't

637
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Speaker 2: think he's gonna suck at any point too. Like he

638
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Speaker 2: is as high a floor a catcher as we've got,

639
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: like maybe Bart, but Bart's got some holes here and there.

640
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: But like I think Ruchman is like so high floor,

641
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: but the ceiling is a little bit lower. What do

642
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Speaker 2: you think about the catching position.

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Speaker 4: Dust, I think ADLEI Richmond is. I think he's incredible.

644
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Speaker 4: I think he's an amazing athlete. I think he's got

645
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: stupid juice from both sides of the plate. I think

646
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Speaker 4: he'll be the best catcher in baseball here in the

647
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Speaker 4: next like five years or so. Oh so you're on

648
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 4: them all right, Well, yeah, I'm not. I'm not. Like

649
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Speaker 4: I think, I think Bobby Witt is a better overall prospect,

650
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Speaker 4: But I mean Richman, Adley's a catcher and he's amazing.

651
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Speaker 4: He's an amazing athlete, and I just it's hard to

652
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 4: bet against guys like that, especially with his makeup. Like,

653
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 4: I'm not, I'm not betting against Adley Richmond no way.

654
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: Pete, the guest, disagrees with the two host should we

655
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: say by now, I.

656
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: Don't even I'm not I'm not on the boat where

657
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: I'm like trying to diminish Adley Rutchman's value even a

658
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: little bit. I also think that he's going to be phenomenal.

659
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: I just I'm not totally sold yet that we have

660
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: the air apparent to Buster Posey or Yadio Molina, like

661
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: we're looking at a first ballot Hall of Fame guy.

662
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 3: I just think he's gonna be really, really good catcher

663
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: who's a multiple time All Star but does not take

664
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 3: the league by storm.

665
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: That's my opinion on him. It's not too you know,

666
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: it's not too much.

667
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: I agree, But that's why I agree with that too.

668
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 4: I mean, let's get let's.

669
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: Keep talking about this Dodger's rotation. So if we're if

670
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: we're not gonna sign Clayton Kershaw, who are some pictures

671
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 3: that you feel like that we gotta get that we

672
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: gotta get because I know we've talked some trades, but

673
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: who's something in your mind that you know.

674
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: We gotta get?

675
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 4: What?

676
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: Jack, what are you smiling about? Peter said, we because

677
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: he's wearing the Dodger hat. Yeah, death star guy.

678
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 4: The free agent, Uh, the free agent depth at this

679
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 4: point is kind of kind of kind of thin I

680
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 4: like the granky signing, bringing back to l A. He

681
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 4: was an amazing Dodger, an amazing Dodger. Michael Pinad is

682
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 4: another guy. I think you got guys that are just

683
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 4: gonna fill ins, like or Tony Gonsolin's. I think these

684
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 4: guys are better than Tony Kuhn's. That's what I think.

685
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 4: I have that little faith in that guy. And Andrew Heaney, like,

686
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 4: give me something concrete, give me, give me a granky

687
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 4: I know what I'm getting, getting one hundred and fifty

688
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 4: innings of average pitching probably, and I'll take that. With

689
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 4: the offensive Dodgars have, You're gonna he's gonna pound out wins.

690
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: I wouldn't touch the bullpen. I think it's elite. I

691
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 4: think it might be the best bullpen in baseball, maybe

692
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 4: minus the Brewers. I don't like the idea of signing

693
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 4: Carlos Rodel because I don't know how healthy he is

694
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: and above anything else, with the needs that the doctors have,

695
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 4: I want guys that are gonna throw innings, like guys

696
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 4: that you that are gonna take the ball every fifth day,

697
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 4: and I don't think he qualifies as that. But the

698
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: upside is crazy with Rodin. I just don't know if

699
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 4: you'll throw twenty million dollars at a kind of a

700
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 4: question mark.

701
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: I just don't understand why they'd throw twenty million at

702
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: rodnna not throw twenty million at Kershaw.

703
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: That's just my kind of thing.

704
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: It's like, if they're both talking, we're both talking injuries,

705
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 3: why Rodin over Kershoff? Kershaw's been your guy. You don't

706
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: necessarily know what you're going to get from rodn That's

707
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 3: why I thought, that's why we just did all these trades, right.

708
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 3: I think it's they're in a perfect position. You talked

709
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: about the conveyor belt of prospects. You have an obvious

710
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 3: need at starting pitching, and there's multiple starting pitchers out

711
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 3: there that they could go get. That's why I know

712
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: that they normally do the trade deadline, but why not

713
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 3: do it in the offseason right now? I just don't

714
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: understand why.

715
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: I just think that they like to reassess where they're

716
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: at at the deadline because the Dodgers have so many

717
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 4: guys that just randomly break out and are just true

718
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 4: impact guys. Somebody that I think could throw meaningful innings

719
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: for him this year in the rotation is Land and

720
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 4: Mack the guy spots up like three or four pitches

721
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 4: is upside, isn't crazy, but he's gonna be. He's an

722
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 4: elite level strike thrower if he hits a ceiling like,

723
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 4: not an elite, he's a really good strike thrower, like

724
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 4: he could be a good four and he's pretty polished off.

725
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 4: He had great numbers last year. I think he could

726
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 4: be somebody who contributes. But that's why they reassessed the deadline,

727
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 4: because who knows. Baby Bobby Miller takes two steps forward

728
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden he's ready for the rotation.

729
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 4: Maybe Tony Gonsolin is not what I'm predicting, and he

730
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: uses his amazing stuff and actually gets out.

731
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: So why don't we call it amazing? What makes you

732
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: think it's amazing? You've watched Tony gonsoon on a hundred times.

733
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: I've watched Tony Gonsolin. When I watch him, there's nothing

734
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: that screams amazing about his stuff.

735
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 4: He's got great stuff. He just doesn't he can't land anything,

736
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 4: but it's fastball for strikes. That's he just he had bad,

737
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 4: bad command. But his slider and his splitter or disgusting pitches.

738
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: Fine. Yeah, wait till I see it. Don't believe me.

739
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 4: I don't think it's.

740
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: I think he's got fine stuff.

741
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 4: I don't like the guy, but he's got great stuff.

742
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: Let's saying I like him, Jack, when you interjectare with

743
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: Tony Gonzon, I like him. I think he's weird because

744
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: of the cat thing, just like Dustin mentioned and like,

745
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: I don't know what. I'm so anti cat that I

746
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: want to be out on Tony Gonsolin, but he's got

747
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: stupid stuff.

748
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 4: He's got got a ninety.

749
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 2: Five mile an hour fastball, he's got an eighty seven

750
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: mile an hour slider, and then he's got a change

751
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: up that dips. Like those three pitches are good, Like

752
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: it's MLB starter stuff. I think Tony Gonsolin's an MLB starter.

753
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: It's just I think he's weird because of the cat thing,

754
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: so I don't want him on my team. There's my

755
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: hard hitting analysis on Tony Gonsolin. Fair.

756
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: I think that's fair. Can we talk about how elite

757
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: this bullpen is? Yes, I mean Jack's raising us.

758
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Before we move on to a bullpen, I do

759
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: just want to say one thing about the deadline, because

760
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: the way we talked about Shane Bose being the Ray's

761
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: best deadline acquisition, Dustin May coming back to be tourn

762
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: ucl could be the Dodger's best deadline acquisition.

763
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt. I mean he's just another guy. I

764
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 4: don't know if they come back and instantly put him

765
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 4: back in the starting rotation though, just the way they

766
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 4: baby these guys, like these young guys, they might just

767
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 4: throw them in the bullpen and try to manage his workload.

768
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: That right there is a segue to the bullpen conversation.

769
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: Didn't even know he did.

770
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 4: It, wasn't even trying to do it. But yeah, back

771
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: to the bullpen. Obviously, Dustin May mid season. You know

772
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 4: that's one hundred nine Irish sinker and then you're talking

773
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: about trying it and gradual trying. I thought Peter had

774
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 4: a good take. I think Trying is the second best

775
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: reliever in baseball going into this year. I mean, he's

776
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 4: got like it. He's got a through three pitch mix

777
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 4: that is just from hell. The sinker at one hundred,

778
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 4: the mid nineties cutter, and then his slider was like

779
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 4: statistically maybe the best pitching BA fall out of the bullpen.

780
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned the three pitch Mix from Hell

781
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: for Blake Trying. He also had a Morning from Hell yesterday.

782
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: I mean, guy had an awful Twitter Twitter feed going

783
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: on that was that was really weird.

784
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: I think he got hacked Dustin. Did you see that

785
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 3: on Twitter with Blake Trying. He's like ratioing people. He's like,

786
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 3: you suck bro, your shit bro, and like he think

787
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: that was real. No, but it was verified, That's what

788
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying. It was just Yeah, it was Blake trying

789
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: to verified Twitter profile with two hundred and fifty followers,

790
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: just ratioing people. I any, and it came up on

791
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: my feet. Ratio is Ratio is something if you say

792
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: something stupid, someone comments ratio, and then whichever one gets

793
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: more likes I guess or more attention just goes to

794
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: show how stupid the opinion is. So he's like out

795
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: here doing that on red and Twitter feeds. And but

796
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: the thing is also what made it even weirder was that,

797
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: you know, he's in Los Angeles at it's seven am there.

798
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 3: When it came up on my feet, it was like

799
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: six thirty in the morning. I think he does have

800
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: no idea what was going on that would.

801
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: Like try to glitter that's weird. I don't know, he's nasty.

802
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: Thought more than just him. I mean, even with Kenley going,

803
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 3: there's way more than just him. Pet I like gradol

804
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: a lot. I mean, I look at look at the

805
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 3: turbo sinker. I mean it's just you watch you watch

806
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: the guy, and it's it's not similar to Emmanual class

807
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 3: As Cutter, because I think Emmanuel class As Cutter is

808
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: just a little bit better. But you just watch a

809
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 3: picture like that and you think to yourself, how does

810
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 3: anyone ever get hits off the guy? And the number

811
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: show he doesn't strike out that many guys, but he's

812
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: still very unhittable.

813
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Sorry, Jack, go ahead.

814
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: No, I was just gonna say, like I to be honest,

815
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: I place very minimal stock in the idea that the

816
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: swing and miss numbers are low on that sinker, just

817
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: because I'm like, how can you do any damage against it?

818
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah, I think that's totally fair. It's hard

819
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 4: to hard to imagine barreling up that pitch, you know,

820
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: like it's like one hundred and two and it's moving

821
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 4: about two feet, and it just seems like it. He

822
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 4: doesn't give up a lot of hard contacts, so you know,

823
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 4: he doesn't strike guys out, but he's not giving up

824
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: any hard contact either, so we'll take it. Then you

825
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: got Tommy Kinley coming back. Peter, you hit on him

826
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 4: the other day. He is nasty. Alex Vesia misses tons

827
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: of bats. He's got an invisible fastball, struck out Freddy

828
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 4: Freeman I think multiple times in big spots, so he's

829
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 4: got big balls we're talking. You got Phil Bigford, who

830
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 4: was really good for the Dodge last year, really good,

831
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: good breaking ball, spots up the heater. Just a solid guy.

832
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: Daniel Hudson strike guys, strikes guys out, throws a hundred.

833
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 4: And then another guy, another lefty, justin Brule, kind of

834
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 4: like a cutter, just keep you off the barrel kind

835
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 4: of guy too. They got a couple of lefties that

836
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 4: are kind of like, you know, quadruple A guys like

837
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 4: Brules one of them, but he's been good in his time.

838
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 4: And then they got I think Cleavinger, who throws like

839
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,959
Speaker 4: ninety seven from the left side, but for some reason

840
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 4: we don't see him that much. It's like this guy's

841
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: starting gas. But uh yeah, the bullpens were set with

842
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 4: the bullpen do.

843
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: You think it's gonna stack up because you got a

844
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: lot of arms, and with Kenley now out of the

845
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 3: closer role, Joe Kelly is now gone as well. Who

846
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: do you think is gonna be closer? Who's setting up games?

847
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: And who's coming in the seventh if Bueler goes six.

848
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna take this opportunity to completely abolish

849
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: the closer thing in Los Angeles. Yeah, I do. I

850
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 4: think they're just gonna be like, we're just going to

851
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 4: play matchups now in it because there's nobody trying. It's

852
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 4: making big money. But he's got no ego about it,

853
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 4: like he's always been fine coming in whenever we need

854
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 4: him to. But I think they just kind of go

855
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: by committee, go by matchups, and and that'll be that.

856
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: All right.

857
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 3: I love that take, But then how about you rank

858
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 3: them of your favorite real maybe not necessarily closers, set up,

859
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: set up to the setup. Is there a name for

860
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 3: a seventh inning.

861
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: Guy, a regional manager? He's just regional manager. That was good,

862
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: But is there? I don't think there is.

863
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

864
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: I don't think they could. Yeah, So who's who's Who's that? One?

865
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: Two and three?

866
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 4: Trying and one I guess Grouderal too because I haven't

867
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 4: seen a lot of Kenley or Daniel Hudson, but those

868
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 4: are probably my three and four. And then Vessie had

869
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 4: maybe five big for six Brules seven something like that.

870
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 2: That's really good.

871
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: It's really really good.

872
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, even without ken Lee, are you gonna miss Kenley

873
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 3: at all? Any parting words to Kenley Jansen, the closer

874
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: of the Daughters for the past decade.

875
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 4: Ken Lee Jansen, I mean, I appreciate everything he's done

876
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 4: the Dodgers, but he was kind of a prima donnell,

877
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 4: like he needed a lot of like he needed a

878
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 4: lot of attention, like he needed to be the guy,

879
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: Like I don't know how much the guys. He made

880
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 4: some questionable comments about needing more bullpen help on a

881
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 4: couple of seasons, and it's like, how do you get

882
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 4: like your bullpen's supposed to be a unit, right, like,

883
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 4: and you're talking trash about your guys, Like I don't

884
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 4: fuck with that, Like he shouldn't be making comments like that,

885
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: And just the way he carries himself, I don't I

886
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 4: don't care to have him back. Great picture and man,

887
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 4: he was nasty down the stretch, like as nasty as

888
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 4: I've ever seen him throwing ninety five on our cutters

889
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 4: that were actually moving, actually.

890
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 3: Moving, actually moving, and not the old Kedley Jets cutter

891
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: that doesn't move at all. But for some reason it's

892
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 3: still missing bads. And we've argued about that. I'm like, dust,

893
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: look at the screen ninety one. You show me where

894
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: it's moving, we'll break it down. I watched it moves

895
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: like that much it still gets it off the plate.

896
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 3: But I agree with you, it actually was moving at

897
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 3: ninety five.

898
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 4: This year it's a little different. But uh no, I will.

899
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 4: I will not miss Kelly Jansen, to be honest.

900
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: You're gonna miss Joe Kelly. Yeah.

901
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 4: I like Joe Kelly just because he was like he

902
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 4: was like he's a real electric personality. If he needs

903
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 4: someone to, you know, brush somebody off the plate, you

904
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 4: call on Joe Kelly and he'll throw a hundred behind

905
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 4: the guy's head. He's like he's intimidated. He was. He's

906
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: a cool dude, and he threw a bunch. He threw

907
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 4: all curveballs too, Like there were outings where he wouldn't

908
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 4: throw fastballs, and it's like he's throwing a hundred, but

909
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 4: he's throwing his eighty nine on our curveball. When Joe

910
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 4: Kelly was on, he was nasty, really good.

911
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: So before we kind of go over what we think

912
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: the opening day twenty twenty two roster of the Dodgers

913
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: should be, do you guys have any other trades or

914
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: free agents that you'd love to see on the Dodgers.

915
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 4: I think I think what arm said we had already

916
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 4: talked about in the Choosy Peter, But I think Tyler

917
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 4: Glass now will be a Dodger soon just because he

918
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 4: had that Uh he's got that next season where the

919
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 4: race gotta pay him. So I don't think they're gonna

920
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 4: pay him. I don't think they want to pay him,

921
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: or I don't think they can pay him. So as

922
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 4: a similar situation with the Tommy Kainley deal, the Dodters

923
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 4: will eat money now for a discount later. I mean

924
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 4: it's gonna be the daughters or somebody else that make

925
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 4: that move for Glass now, and I don't think there's

926
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 4: anybody more inclined to do it than the Dodgers.

927
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: Jack would he take four Tellerglass?

928
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 4: Now?

929
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: What a fucking joke, dude, I mean, doctor fans talking

930
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: about going to get Tyler Glass.

931
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 4: I guess we'll get Glass now. I guess yeah. I

932
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 4: guess that's fine.

933
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: He'll be He'll be the three You guys, Actually, fuck you, guys,

934
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 2: screw you, the death Star. You better get used to it.

935
00:46:53,880 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: God creational. Uh, you don't think it's gonna happen.

936
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: Back, No, It's probably gonna happen.

937
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 3: That's why we project the future.

938
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 2: You know, we don't. We don't.

939
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: We're we're not worried about which team is doing which

940
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: if the optics of the situation, We're worried about what's

941
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: going to happen.

942
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: And the Dodgers is probably gonna get Tyler Glass out.

943
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: That's just the reality situation. I'm an optics guy. I

944
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 2: think those are tough optics for the rest of Manial

945
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: League Baseball. Tyler Glass now is a Dodger.

946
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: Freddy Freeman might be a Dodger to It sucks, but

947
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: it's the reality of the situation. They just got Sureser

948
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: and Trade Turner. They do this type of ship. They

949
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 3: do it all the time, all the time. Remember when

950
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: they got Remember when they got Adrian Gonzalez and Carl

951
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 3: Crawford and all those guys For just money.

952
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: John Yeah, Machado forgotten was a Dodger. That was a

953
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: flower fish man, I mean Dodger. They've had some guys

954
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: come through.

955
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 4: Jeezuz so cool, you know.

956
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: I think the Dodger's staple is like, yes, you got

957
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: the big name, but you also have the thirty something

958
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: right handed starter that they just like, kind of rejuvenate

959
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: and you know, you could go get granky. There are

960
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: a couple other free agent names that I want to

961
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: show it that I want to throw out here. I

962
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: think Quato's a free agent right now? Is he not?

963
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 4: I don't know.

964
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: I think Quato's a free agent. Let's go to it. Uh, yeah,

965
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: Quato's a free agent. He's available. I think Johnny Quato

966
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: could be a good Dodger, would be a good Dodger, right,

967
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 2: I like your idea, Panada. I don't think Matt Harvey

968
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: is the guy. I know, what do you mean? Of

969
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 2: course you don't, but like, but I don't know if

970
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: j Happ is the guy. But if he had okay,

971
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: but if Matt Harvey had ten quality starts with the Dodgers,

972
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: would you be shocked at all? Yet?

973
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 4: No? I would I wouldn't.

974
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: I would be shocked. I would Matt Harvey had ten

975
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: quality starts with any team. I wouldn't be shocked. Matt Harvey.

976
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: Have you watched him? Yeah, he died. You know where

977
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: he was. He was in Baltimore. Baltimore. Baltimore is a

978
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: death sentence.

979
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 3: You have not visited the Orioles enough. Matt Harvey comes in,

980
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 3: It's runs glory no matter who the other team is.

981
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, so I would be shocked. Let's move on

982
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: from Matt Harvey. Another guy that I floated for Saint Louis.

983
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 2: I think like Aaron Sanchez could be a name that

984
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 2: is in a Dodger uniform. It's like good again, right,

985
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: So I think they just go after like that reliever

986
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: that oh I remember that name. He was really good

987
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: one time, and like they just turn him into somebody

988
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: good again, Like that is the Dodgers penning. Yeah, canebel

989
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: along with spending a lot of money, great and Ebels

990
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: still on the Dodgers probably.

991
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 4: Is huh No, No, I went to the Phillies.

992
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 2: True, true, Phi. Yeah, he's a good believer.

993
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 4: He's nasty, all right.

994
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two Dodgers, this is what we're looking at.

995
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 3: We got Aj Pollick and left or Chris Taylor and left.

996
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna put Chris Taylor somewhere else.

997
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 4: Huh.

998
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, let's put a J. Pollickin left, Mookie Bets

999
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 2: in center.

1000
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: Nope, no, Mukie Bets in right, Tody Bellinger and center,

1001
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: Justin Turner at third, Trey Turner at short, Chris Taylor

1002
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 3: at second, Max Munsey at first. Then you have Will

1003
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: Smith at catcher, and I guess Gavin lux is your

1004
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 3: utility guy at this point. Is that what you're looking at?

1005
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: Or would you rather have Chris Taylor and left, Gavin

1006
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 3: Lux at second, and then Aj Pollock is kind of

1007
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 3: your guy to move around.

1008
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 4: I think Chris Taylor will always be that super utility guy,

1009
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 4: but he always finds his way into the lineup. Like

1010
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 4: he's always getting over five hundred at bats, he's always

1011
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 4: playing over one hundred and fifty games. So yeah, to

1012
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 4: start the year, you're definitely starting him. But as soon

1013
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 4: as somebody goes down gets hurt, you plug him into

1014
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 4: whatever position that is. He'll be really good at it,

1015
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 4: and then Gavin lux goes and play second. Bit it's

1016
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 4: just do you want Gavin Luxe second or do you

1017
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: want him in the outfield, because he might be so

1018
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 4: mind fucked in the infield that he just can't do

1019
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 4: it anymore. He really might like it might be like that,

1020
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 4: and you might just need to say, Okay, you're gonna

1021
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 4: play less field and you're just gonna hit.

1022
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 2: And he was okay in the outfield. He was okay.

1023
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 4: He wasn't terrible. He was he's fast, he's got a

1024
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 4: he's got a strong arm. It's not accurate, but uh yeah,

1025
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 4: he's got all the tools necessary to be a totally

1026
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 4: fine left fielder.

1027
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about the sexiest thing in baseball bench

1028
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: bats mm hmm. Baty Raley and McKinstry. Is a really

1029
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 2: solid bench Yep, not that good. I like a lot

1030
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: and I like Batty a lot. Like Batty can be

1031
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: your platoon.

1032
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 4: D h.

1033
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: That is pretty solid.

1034
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 4: Baty puts together really good at bats consistently. Luke Rayley's

1035
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 4: got pid juice seeing him the hit balls like one

1036
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 4: hundred and thirteen miles an hour. Mckinstreet, he was so

1037
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 4: good at the beginning of the year, then was just

1038
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 4: so bad at the end. So hopefully we get something

1039
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 4: right in the middle of that. And he kind of

1040
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 4: turns into a Chris Taylor kind of guy that obviously

1041
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 4: not as good, but that kind of position versatility. I

1042
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 4: don't think they need a new backup catcher. I know

1043
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 4: arm said like Austin Barnes is like terrible. Austin Barnes

1044
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 4: is not terrible. In my opinion, I think he is.

1045
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: I think he is an amazing defensive catcher, and I

1046
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 4: think that time and time again in the playoffs. He's

1047
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 4: put together good at bats like he's he's a gamer.

1048
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 4: The guy's a gamer. He's got no power, but he

1049
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 4: can he can spread the ball a little bit. I

1050
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 4: like Austin Barnes. I'm perfectly fine with him. And then

1051
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 4: I guess Steven Sousa would be the Yeah.

1052
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: Steven Zeus is out here getting the bats in the

1053
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: World Series. I don't look at this bench and say.

1054
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it's really solid. I really don't.

1055
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 3: I mean that baby's fine, he's all right. Luke Rayley

1056
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 3: can run into one occasionally. Mckinstrey, we saw what he

1057
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 3: looked like in the second half post injury, but that's it.

1058
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: Then here's the thing, though, here's the thing. You either

1059
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,479
Speaker 2: have Polyck or Luxe on the bench. So like that. Yeah,

1060
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: he enhances the overall value of the bench.

1061
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: Unless you have the DH. Then you don't, and then

1062
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 3: you're putting one of them at DH. Right, you have

1063
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 3: Edwin Rios, who I think can run into more balls

1064
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: than Luke Rayley.

1065
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Edwin Rios has been amazing in his in

1066
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 4: his small sample size in the major leagues, hitting home

1067
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 4: runs at a pretty crazy clip.

1068
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 3: When we call him like a au Henny O Suarez

1069
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 3: kind of guy, he seems like he's gonna strike out

1070
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: a bunch, but he's gonna he could run into thirty

1071
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: thirty five if he actually gave him five to six

1072
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 3: hundred play appearances.

1073
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 4: I mean, he's coming off his shoulder laborm surgery, I

1074
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 4: think so. I think it'll it'll take some time. I

1075
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 4: don't think he'll be that guy next year, but maybe

1076
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Speaker 4: the year after that, because it always tastes like Bellinger,

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Speaker 4: like he was so bad last year, but he was

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Speaker 4: so beat up, never fully recovered I don't think from

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Speaker 4: that shoulder surgery and then broke his leg, and it

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Speaker 4: was like Cody Bellinger's gonna be really good. But like

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Speaker 4: if you're the daughters, are you trading for bench bat

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Speaker 4: when you have this system that just consistently pumps out

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Speaker 4: amazing players.

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Speaker 2: You probably aren't.

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Speaker 4: No, you're not. You're just gonna sit there and wait

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Speaker 4: and maybe at the trade deadline reassess.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to look for weaknesses. That's why I

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Speaker 2: said I didn't love the bench, and.

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Speaker 3: If we're trying to build one hundred and six win

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Speaker 3: team again, I was like, well, they have two starting

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Speaker 3: pitchers of no bench.

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Speaker 2: But I guess they do kind of have a bench.

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Speaker 2: And it's the Los Angeles Dodgers. They'll be fine. What

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Speaker 2: do you think?

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Speaker 3: Do you see World Series in twenty twenty two or

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Speaker 3: do you maybe think this is not their year?

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Speaker 2: Put your bias aside, Dickhead.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously I think they're gonna be a World

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Speaker 4: Series champions, But I think that the the NS is stacked.

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Speaker 4: Other than the Diamondbacks and the Rockies, I think the

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Speaker 4: Giants are going to be right where they were last year.

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Speaker 4: Maybe not one hundred and seven wins, but they'll be

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Speaker 4: over ninety wins. Padres will be over ninety wins. Wow, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean.

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Speaker 2: Teams in the NL West all over ninety.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, definitely, I think that the Padres there's just

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Speaker 4: no way they could be as bad as they were.

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Speaker 4: No shot, They're too talented. Remember the Jack can probably

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Speaker 4: speak to this really well because as a Padres fan,

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Speaker 4: like those Dodger Padre games at the beginning of the

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Speaker 4: year were absolutely electric, their playoff atmosphere type games, and

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Speaker 4: I just think they're going to recapture that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I love being branded a Padres fan. That was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Spent a year with one fan. You do have you were?

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Speaker 3: You were up to date on this Padres t Eaven

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one because I worked in their organization exactly

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Speaker 3: and still think that Darvius is better than stell I do.

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Speaker 3: So you aren't watching put out the Excel watching game?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: That's that about does it? Go check out Just Baseball

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Speaker 3: March the link in the description of this podcast episode.

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Speaker 3: Also go check out Just Baseball dot com for more

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Speaker 3: Dodgers coverage.

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Speaker 2: Dusted.

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Speaker 3: I thought this is kind of a phenomenal conversation. It

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Speaker 3: was more casual. We're just chopping it up, we're playing GMO.

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Speaker 2: It's more of a chop up, you know, just chopping

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Speaker 2: it up.

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Speaker 3: Our whole lives. I'm glad to bring on Jack and Jack.

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Speaker 3: I see your tattoos coming through your your shirt. You're

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Speaker 3: looking kind of edgy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let me let me turn my arm real quick.

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Speaker 2: Do I look as edgie as Dusted and the Black

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Speaker 2: Beanie both got to wear the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Jack's got tattoos, kind of similar glasses, also a black

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Speaker 3: T shirt, and I just look like a little kid

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Speaker 3: at his first aid to Dodger School, but straight.

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Speaker 2: And with that, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Everybody found

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