1
00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400
Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast.

2
00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,519
Speaker 2: That action.

3
00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:14,280
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. We're sitting up for cash.

4
00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:15,080
Speaker 3: Touch time.

5
00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,599
Speaker 1: We see most gamble is when they go to gamble,

6
00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:19,520
Speaker 1: they go to winning.

7
00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,720
Speaker 3: That's incredible.

8
00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,280
Speaker 1: Big bank, small bank. I like to make money. All right,

9
00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,280
Speaker 1: this is the ultimate combine and we want to.

10
00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,040
Speaker 3: Man, we are underway.

11
00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,480
Speaker 4: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast producer David Payne. Here

12
00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,360
Speaker 4: Stucky in Rayvaughn went pretty deep in their Training Camp

13
00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,760
Speaker 4: Questions episode. So instead of one giant episode, we're splitting

14
00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,120
Speaker 4: it into two parts. So if you missed part one,

15
00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,000
Speaker 4: the guys got into the a f C South and

16
00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,920
Speaker 4: a FC East. That episode is live right now, so

17
00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,400
Speaker 4: check it out. And in this one they'll discuss the

18
00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,240
Speaker 4: a f C West and a FC North.

19
00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,280
Speaker 3: Enjoy, let's h move on to the a f C West.

20
00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:59,920
Speaker 3: What you got there?

21
00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad to get out of the East, hon

22
00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,319
Speaker 1: like that. They just makes me mad. Yeah, it just

23
00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,000
Speaker 1: takes me mad. I mean, you know, you know, I

24
00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,399
Speaker 1: love me some uh Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City Chiefs.

25
00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,520
Speaker 1: They're always fun regardless. But let's start with she Rice,

26
00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of finding out that his legal

27
00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,919
Speaker 1: situations coming to a close. So suspension for him general

28
00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,679
Speaker 1: outlook on the passing game overall, like what do you

29
00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,520
Speaker 1: think you do the enough things that need to go

30
00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,000
Speaker 1: right to truly kind of get this team back to

31
00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,440
Speaker 1: being a multiple pass office that can still attack more

32
00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,080
Speaker 1: downfield as well, Like you know, Rice, is he gonna

33
00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,520
Speaker 1: get you know, two games suspension? Is are gonna be

34
00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,280
Speaker 1: something more significant? Jayven Moore is he gonna Is he

35
00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,000
Speaker 1: gonna win a job in unseat tailor? And that probably

36
00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,240
Speaker 1: depends on the rookie Simmons winning the left tackle job,

37
00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,480
Speaker 1: And then is left guard still gonna be a black

38
00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,800
Speaker 1: hole and invite him? Is that any running back in

39
00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,520
Speaker 1: average more four yards of carry? Like their top three

40
00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,840
Speaker 1: were all you know, sub four yard carry guys last year,

41
00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,080
Speaker 1: So no, defenses don't have to respect the run game

42
00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,840
Speaker 1: at all. Are nough of these things going to fall

43
00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,960
Speaker 1: into place for the Chiefs to kind of get back

44
00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,320
Speaker 1: to it or is it gonna be another one of

45
00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,440
Speaker 1: these years where they're just kind of, you know, playing

46
00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:11,880
Speaker 1: with fire.

47
00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but maybe we just like the Chiefs

48
00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,200
Speaker 3: and Steelers are just always gonna win their one session games.

49
00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,679
Speaker 3: It makes more sense for the Chiefs. I mean, you

50
00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:23,080
Speaker 3: got Andy Reid Patrick Mahomes great kicker, but they're forty

51
00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,760
Speaker 3: two and sixteen since twenty nineteen in one possession game,

52
00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,079
Speaker 3: seventy two percent win percentage. Last year they went eleven

53
00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,119
Speaker 3: and zero. And a lot of the reason that they

54
00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,800
Speaker 3: were in all those close games is just the offense.

55
00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,200
Speaker 3: It wasn't explosive and they're just going to be in

56
00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,280
Speaker 3: these these fights down to the wire. They can't really

57
00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,639
Speaker 3: pull away. And a lot of the issues have been

58
00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,160
Speaker 3: on the offensive line, and that's that's the number one

59
00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,560
Speaker 3: thing that I'm watching. And you know the Chiefs are

60
00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,800
Speaker 3: going to be there in the end, but it's and

61
00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,040
Speaker 3: you even saw this in the Super Bowl. You got

62
00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,320
Speaker 3: one of the best centers in the NFL, but his

63
00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,520
Speaker 3: performance suffered. When you kick tune me out to tackle,

64
00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,600
Speaker 3: the left guard became worse than your center gets hurt

65
00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,040
Speaker 3: and then everything is worse. So, yeah, did they fix

66
00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,040
Speaker 3: the offensive line? So it's Simmons are more at left tackle,

67
00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,600
Speaker 3: and then is it Sumteo or Caliendo at left guard?

68
00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,040
Speaker 3: How does that come together? Because if it does, then

69
00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,960
Speaker 3: your centers can can do even more. And then I

70
00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,240
Speaker 3: think Mahomes having more time. I mean, there's still some

71
00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,720
Speaker 3: questions at the right tackle spot as well, but that's

72
00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,600
Speaker 3: gotta be more consistent there. But it's all about the

73
00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,200
Speaker 3: left side of the offensive line. I think if they

74
00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,560
Speaker 3: stay healthy with their weapons, they can be a bit

75
00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,160
Speaker 3: more explosive. They're going to need to be. I mean,

76
00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,960
Speaker 3: they were as bad as you can get in that department.

77
00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's the main thing I'm watching with

78
00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,320
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. You know they're going to be there in

79
00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,320
Speaker 3: the end, but it's, uh, it's the offensive line for

80
00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,200
Speaker 3: me left side.

81
00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, uh, I would also kind of

82
00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,560
Speaker 1: add to that that, you know, you pay the offensive line,

83
00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,760
Speaker 1: but we know Mahomes is gonna be fine at the

84
00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,000
Speaker 1: end of the day one way or another. But I

85
00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,520
Speaker 1: really think that it would benefit the Chiefs to like

86
00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,200
Speaker 1: not have a joke of a running game, and they

87
00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,400
Speaker 1: that's the one area where they just seem to have

88
00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,279
Speaker 1: kind of not really figured it out. And you know,

89
00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,760
Speaker 1: they had the enemy as their offensive coordinator for years.

90
00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:20,800
Speaker 3: Eve it's so basic.

91
00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,440
Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, and doesn't like to run. But

92
00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,480
Speaker 1: this is a situation where it's like, Okay, Andy Reid

93
00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,640
Speaker 1: is great at ninety nine things out of one hundred.

94
00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,440
Speaker 1: The one thing is he's not he doesn't really care

95
00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,279
Speaker 1: about the run game. So like, if if I'm Veach,

96
00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,760
Speaker 1: if you know, I gotta I gotta kind of help

97
00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:43,080
Speaker 1: him out there. I gotta. I can't have Kareem Hunt, Pacheco,

98
00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,919
Speaker 1: Carson Steele getting like p Ryn was on the roster

99
00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,080
Speaker 1: last year. This year, it's like you kick the tires

100
00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,400
Speaker 1: on Mitchell. You took another seventh rounders already making noise,

101
00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,520
Speaker 1: you still have Hunt on them. Like it's like it's

102
00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,599
Speaker 1: so point I think you gotta kind of figure this

103
00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,760
Speaker 1: thing out. You whifted on your first rounder with Edwards Wilaire.

104
00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:04,960
Speaker 1: And this is a situation where like your Mahomes is

105
00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,919
Speaker 1: so good, Andy Reid is so good, some of the

106
00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,280
Speaker 1: other talent is so good that but are you holding

107
00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,080
Speaker 1: yourself back by just like not doing some of the

108
00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:17,640
Speaker 1: simple things right Because Matt Naggy has been back in

109
00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,239
Speaker 1: the fold uh more prominently, especially these last two years,

110
00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,760
Speaker 1: and it's kind of going downhill the more involved Naggy

111
00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,320
Speaker 1: has gotten, you know, And I mean sometimes you just

112
00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,000
Speaker 1: wonder like who's who's making what decisions, Who's It's just

113
00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,080
Speaker 1: there's certain things with the Chiefs that you already knew

114
00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,560
Speaker 1: this like offensive line was important and there's still a

115
00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,000
Speaker 1: lot of correlation and one one injury could really I

116
00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,520
Speaker 1: think still kind of set you back and put you

117
00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,400
Speaker 1: in a similar spot, maybe even worse because Tony, you know,

118
00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:50,720
Speaker 1: was at times your your best lineman. So that that's

119
00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,880
Speaker 1: kind of my issue with the Chiefs is that in

120
00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,160
Speaker 1: a lot of these teams, I just wonder if they're

121
00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,960
Speaker 1: if they're truly maximizing their ceiling off these things are

122
00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,120
Speaker 1: gonna bite them again and they you know, they they

123
00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,560
Speaker 1: didn't learn anything last year because they they won what

124
00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,440
Speaker 1: they lose one game in the regular season somehow, Like

125
00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,520
Speaker 1: it's so yeah, I just I don't love that they're

126
00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,440
Speaker 1: that that that this is still a question mark. It's

127
00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,440
Speaker 1: not that hard to figure it out. But let's go

128
00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,560
Speaker 1: to let's go to Denver because I'm talking about moving pieces.

129
00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I like what Denver is doing, but I

130
00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:27,720
Speaker 1: wonder exactly when the offense is you know, how much

131
00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,640
Speaker 1: of a jump can the offense make? Because you hit

132
00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,279
Speaker 1: on Nicks, you got a lot out of maybe definitely

133
00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,520
Speaker 1: got a lot out of more out of that offense

134
00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,600
Speaker 1: than I think the talent level at times, But there

135
00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,080
Speaker 1: was it was also a ship show at times with

136
00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:47,200
Speaker 1: the running game, and so is shit figured out? Or

137
00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,720
Speaker 1: are we just assembling a bunch of guys and hoping

138
00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,560
Speaker 1: somebody sticks Because every Ingram's thirty one, he's coming off

139
00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,760
Speaker 1: a career row in yardage, He's not. He's not gonna

140
00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,040
Speaker 1: give you blocking and you seem to be you have.

141
00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,520
Speaker 1: The run game is still an issue, so it's like,

142
00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,279
Speaker 1: is he gonna just be a soccer receiver? But then

143
00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,800
Speaker 1: you know y also he added Bryant to the fold,

144
00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,640
Speaker 1: so Vyle like, is he still in the plan? Mims?

145
00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,040
Speaker 1: He's not really a true receiver? What's the plan for him?

146
00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,840
Speaker 1: Like they got I like the fact that they're getting

147
00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,640
Speaker 1: all these pieces, but then you go and sign JK.

148
00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,880
Speaker 1: Dobbins after you know, Javonte Williams didn't work out. Some

149
00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,880
Speaker 1: of it. I just wonder I got were taking two

150
00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,440
Speaker 1: step you know, one step forward, two steps back. But

151
00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,640
Speaker 1: I do like the fact that they're adding more speed

152
00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,920
Speaker 1: and it's not just Mims. But what are you? What

153
00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,440
Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Cause I think it's gonna come down

154
00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,160
Speaker 1: to these skill guys and bo Nicks. I think the

155
00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,240
Speaker 1: defense is going to be good and the line is

156
00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,760
Speaker 1: and Peyton can kind of figure it out otherwise, but uh,

157
00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,560
Speaker 1: these these skill guys have to kind of hit. So

158
00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:47,560
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts there.

159
00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, the three most interesting pieces that I'm watching for

160
00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,720
Speaker 3: the Broncos this year all rookies who I think could contribute.

161
00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,440
Speaker 3: One on the defensive side in Barren cornerback from Texas.

162
00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,760
Speaker 3: Curiousity of how and how they use them and how

163
00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,480
Speaker 3: frequently as well. I think it could be a good player,

164
00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,440
Speaker 3: and then just another piece in that secondary so curiously

165
00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,640
Speaker 3: what they do with him. But I'm not as worried

166
00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,160
Speaker 3: about the defense, which obviously has a ton of talent.

167
00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,680
Speaker 3: It's the offense and two pieces that could really raise

168
00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,040
Speaker 3: this team ceiling or two rookies, and that's r. J.

169
00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:29,880
Speaker 3: Harvey and Pat Bryant, and they have the potential to

170
00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,600
Speaker 3: help plug, you know, two of the main issues on

171
00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,600
Speaker 3: this offense, and that's the running game and you know,

172
00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,400
Speaker 3: kind of wide receiver help on the outside. So those

173
00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,320
Speaker 3: three rookies I'm really curious to watch in camp and

174
00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,800
Speaker 3: how they progress and how much they're going to use them.

175
00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,400
Speaker 3: I think that that's the most interesting thing I'm watching.

176
00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,520
Speaker 3: And then obviously, you know bo Nick's year two is

177
00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,240
Speaker 3: he you know we got to remember that. Think about

178
00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,600
Speaker 3: every see Stroud, it was he's gonna be a top

179
00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,959
Speaker 3: three quarterback now and Bo Nicks was nowhere close to

180
00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,440
Speaker 3: is as good as Stroud was in his first year.

181
00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:15,000
Speaker 3: So does Nicks take the next step? Does he take

182
00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,200
Speaker 3: a big step back? And he kind of gets his

183
00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,880
Speaker 3: handheld in in that offense and they have a really

184
00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,720
Speaker 3: good defense. He's not gonna have to do a ton,

185
00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,840
Speaker 3: but obviously watching his progression will be key. But that's

186
00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,080
Speaker 3: I'm most curious to watch those three rookies and how

187
00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,800
Speaker 3: they can have an impact in year one and Bryant,

188
00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:36,920
Speaker 3: Harvey and Barren.

189
00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's just it's interesting that there seems

190
00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,160
Speaker 1: to be this trend where coaches are and maybe front

191
00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,840
Speaker 1: offices are kind of purpose we building rosters around this

192
00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,440
Speaker 1: spread it around approach nowadays. You know, maybe it's because

193
00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, just trying to be trying not to put

194
00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,760
Speaker 1: too much into one basket when you feel confident in

195
00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,320
Speaker 1: your quarterback. But at the same time, you have the

196
00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,640
Speaker 1: other side where you saw you see a guy like

197
00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:07,480
Speaker 1: Howie Roseman, you know that offense helping Jalen Hurts, elite

198
00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,240
Speaker 1: skill guys all over the place, and you know it

199
00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,120
Speaker 1: works out. So I just, you know, I almost feel

200
00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,560
Speaker 1: like with Denver, they're just trying to assemble so many guys,

201
00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,240
Speaker 1: but is there a cohesive plan like it? You know,

202
00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,520
Speaker 1: are we just are we still gonna be giving like

203
00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,520
Speaker 1: every one that's not stuck someting fifty percent of snaps

204
00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,280
Speaker 1: and letting it shake out, because I like, I almost

205
00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,400
Speaker 1: feel like with the with the running game, it's like

206
00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,120
Speaker 1: they're they're still trying the purpose we have a committee.

207
00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:39,240
Speaker 1: I feel like at wide receiver, it's like you're trog flank.

208
00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,400
Speaker 1: Franklin's running with the starters, so and Mims is like

209
00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,040
Speaker 1: what is It's just like there's a lot of guys

210
00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,640
Speaker 1: where I feel like you want to sub guys in

211
00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,040
Speaker 1: every play. Sean Payton loves to do that, but I

212
00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:57,000
Speaker 1: just I just wonder if that's ultimately gonna lead to

213
00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,679
Speaker 1: success or if that really maximizes guys's out or in

214
00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,679
Speaker 1: the way you build a roster. So, uh, I think

215
00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,960
Speaker 1: Denver steeling is high, but I'm just curious to kind

216
00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,280
Speaker 1: of see how this is. We're going to like a

217
00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,880
Speaker 1: little bit of a new age. People are trying to

218
00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,400
Speaker 1: trying some new things or just making new mistakes, uh

219
00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:17,000
Speaker 1: offense with with the way they're building rosters the Chargers,

220
00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,560
Speaker 1: and this is another This is not one of those

221
00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:24,200
Speaker 1: teams justin Herbert great season and then just collapse in

222
00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,240
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You can kind of see it coming. Not

223
00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,920
Speaker 1: much at receiver last year outside of a conky did

224
00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,520
Speaker 1: they do enough? We heard Mike Williams just retired. Uh,

225
00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,760
Speaker 1: Trey Harris. I'm kind of optimistic about him, but rookie

226
00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,360
Speaker 1: X receiver might you know, there's always about of downside.

227
00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,160
Speaker 1: And then I think QJ kind of depends on how

228
00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,880
Speaker 1: well Harris does because ideally, I think you J is

229
00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,319
Speaker 1: at this point you can't you can't use him as

230
00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,480
Speaker 1: an X. I think he's got to be a Z

231
00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,240
Speaker 1: and you got to kind of scheme him some things

232
00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,280
Speaker 1: to have him be a you know, be a factor.

233
00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,040
Speaker 1: And then the tight ends, I mean, you have three

234
00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,040
Speaker 1: tight ends or do you have no tight ends? So

235
00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,439
Speaker 1: and then you took a running back in the first round?

236
00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,520
Speaker 1: Did you need He's great? But did you need to

237
00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,560
Speaker 1: do that? Or is this just like Greg Roman doubling down?

238
00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,400
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts here on the Chargers because this

239
00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,240
Speaker 1: division suddenly getting I mean it was always competitive but

240
00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean even the Raiders could be respectable and competent

241
00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,120
Speaker 1: this year too. So you know, the charge has kind

242
00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,480
Speaker 1: of done enough. Are they making the right moves? They

243
00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,000
Speaker 1: nailed that McConkie pick. But you know, ultimately, what do

244
00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,240
Speaker 1: you see for them?

245
00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Trey Harris I think is huge. He's he has

246
00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,920
Speaker 3: to be a high impact guy right off the bat.

247
00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:40,199
Speaker 3: There's I'm curious to see if Gatson, another rookie, if

248
00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,160
Speaker 3: he sees the field is like a he's kind of

249
00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,600
Speaker 3: like a wide receiver, tight end.

250
00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,400
Speaker 2: Soon smart role. I think I would think that's different.

251
00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,440
Speaker 2: But it's it's all Trey Harris has to be good here.

252
00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,880
Speaker 2: And then I mean the Chargers want to run the ball.

253
00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,960
Speaker 2: Naji Harris, I mean, I know he's in a fireworks accident.

254
00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,079
Speaker 2: I don't know when he's going to be available, so

255
00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,679
Speaker 2: you're probably gonna need Hampton to be productive right away.

256
00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,480
Speaker 2: So those are two rookies that I think are going

257
00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,920
Speaker 2: to be really important to skill positions for the Chargers

258
00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,280
Speaker 2: because they need wide receiver help. And Hampton I think

259
00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,880
Speaker 2: has to be the guy on defense. There's a lot

260
00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,520
Speaker 2: of holes that I see on this defense. You know,

261
00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,040
Speaker 2: the defensive line, the edge rush the secondary doesn't give

262
00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,600
Speaker 2: me a lot of confidence. Can they get what can

263
00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,000
Speaker 2: they get from guys like Caldwell and Canard their rookies?

264
00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,520
Speaker 2: Does Coulson take that next step at linebacker and take

265
00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,760
Speaker 2: that position and run with it? So yeah, I'll be

266
00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,000
Speaker 2: watching the defense closely because there's there's a lot of holes.

267
00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,880
Speaker 3: To below two taking over a starting role. What can

268
00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,959
Speaker 3: he give you off the edge? I think you're gonna

269
00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,240
Speaker 3: need something from him. The offensive line looks set. I

270
00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,520
Speaker 3: know that, like Bozman and Johnson, like the order of them,

271
00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,520
Speaker 3: like one who's gonna play center and who's gonna play

272
00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,760
Speaker 3: left guard is in question? But it's really like what

273
00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,200
Speaker 3: can Hampton and Harris give you his rookies? Think like

274
00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,320
Speaker 3: you're gonna need them right off the bat and then

275
00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,000
Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball. There's a lot

276
00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,880
Speaker 3: of questions that uh need to be answered that I'll

277
00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,760
Speaker 3: be watching closely. So yeah, good staff, but this roster

278
00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:23,920
Speaker 3: still has a lot of holes.

279
00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's another one of these situations where it's generally

280
00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,520
Speaker 1: a good coaching steff, but you just kind of wonder

281
00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,880
Speaker 1: are they are they in the room together all the time,

282
00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,480
Speaker 1: and are these some because like the Chargers are kind

283
00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,880
Speaker 1: of setting themselves up where they probably still would function

284
00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:46,120
Speaker 1: best as a run heavy team that plays of the lead.

285
00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,440
Speaker 1: And Herbert still, you know, explosive enough. You one, he

286
00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,480
Speaker 1: keeps he guessing you can kind of do your thing.

287
00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:56,880
Speaker 1: But I mean that playoff game was disconcerting, and I

288
00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,840
Speaker 1: think you have like things could just unraveled very quickly if,

289
00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,880
Speaker 1: like you said, Harris doesn't hit, because you still you

290
00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,920
Speaker 1: still don't have like a real go to guy at

291
00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,000
Speaker 1: tight end. You have three tight ends, which makes it

292
00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,600
Speaker 1: harder for a guy like Dads. And then you because

293
00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,000
Speaker 1: you want to be a run heavy team, You're you're

294
00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:19,400
Speaker 1: not gonna always prioritize, you know, these receivers. And then

295
00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,960
Speaker 1: yet like you have the thing that gives me confidence

296
00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,400
Speaker 1: with that hopefully Harris is as good as I think

297
00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,680
Speaker 1: he is is They did nail that. That m a

298
00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,200
Speaker 1: Conki pick. They absolutely nailed it. And the one thing

299
00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,520
Speaker 1: that you know, a lot of people are excited about

300
00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,280
Speaker 1: Higgins too, and I'm I'm optimistic for kind of the

301
00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,720
Speaker 1: same reasons because I think you can play him off

302
00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,200
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. He kind of plays a little different.

303
00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,320
Speaker 1: But Harris is like a true like he can actually

304
00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,080
Speaker 1: beat Man and and bet press coverage, right, you know,

305
00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,040
Speaker 1: he has more of a track record doing so in

306
00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,440
Speaker 1: the past, and that that's going to be huge for

307
00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,200
Speaker 1: the Chargers. But uh, there's also there's it's still Greg

308
00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,960
Speaker 1: Roman doing some weird stuff at times, like it's I mean,

309
00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,760
Speaker 1: just so much fullback going on. There's so much like

310
00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,760
Speaker 1: gadgetry with guys like Davis and like Rager, and it's

311
00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,440
Speaker 1: just something there's just too many players going on non

312
00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,640
Speaker 1: entities I think, and and this offense is still dangerously

313
00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,040
Speaker 1: close to that kind of kind of happening again. And

314
00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot there, But there's also a risk for

315
00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, kind of going all in on like running

316
00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,200
Speaker 1: back and receiver earlier in the draft, when you know

317
00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,880
Speaker 1: not necessarily the positions that you need to do that at.

318
00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think there's a wide range of outcomes.

319
00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,760
Speaker 1: But the Chargers had an easy schedule last year, Let's

320
00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,320
Speaker 1: not forget that. Like that. They they really ate with

321
00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,400
Speaker 1: that easy ass schedule and they could kind of play

322
00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,120
Speaker 1: the way they wanted to play this year. I don't

323
00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,640
Speaker 1: it might be a little tougher, you know, they they're

324
00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,960
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to dictate as much so Chargers.

325
00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'm just gonna be watching them quot

326
00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,320
Speaker 1: see seeing how it all kind of shakes out. But

327
00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,800
Speaker 1: the Raiders, there's this is a talk about kind of retreads.

328
00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,360
Speaker 1: I mean ring back Carol Kelly, add couple, you draft

329
00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,600
Speaker 1: the running back in the first round. He's great, but

330
00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,160
Speaker 1: just funny how you're doing like all the old school

331
00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,800
Speaker 1: things and in Vegas. Uh, I guess my question always

332
00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:18,399
Speaker 1: starts with the defense on this team, because their offense

333
00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,560
Speaker 1: probably is going to be better, just you know, going

334
00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,639
Speaker 1: from to a competent quarterback in Gino and you got

335
00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,640
Speaker 1: bows now and gent But defensively do they have enough

336
00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,280
Speaker 1: to not be terrible? Is it going to be decent?

337
00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,080
Speaker 1: Is there? Like? What where are they defensively in a

338
00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,080
Speaker 1: division at with you know, Holmes and Herbert and in

339
00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,160
Speaker 1: this Bronco offense?

340
00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean offensively there what I'm curious to watch there?

341
00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,359
Speaker 3: The defense as much has many more questions. But because

342
00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,920
Speaker 3: they still need some wide receiver help, so can Thornton

343
00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,600
Speaker 3: who's getting rave reviews so far or betch can they

344
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,120
Speaker 3: and then obviously bringing genty So watching those rookies will

345
00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,880
Speaker 3: be interesting. But on the fensive side of the ball.

346
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,520
Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of questions at every level, and

347
00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,720
Speaker 3: like Christian Wilkins, when's he gonna be healthy? And if

348
00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,560
Speaker 3: he's not healthy that can you get something from your

349
00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:16,200
Speaker 3: rookies there? Hemingway the Geese. You're gonna need those guys

350
00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,520
Speaker 3: to step up if if Wilkins isn't healthy. And then

351
00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,560
Speaker 3: in the secondary, even I mean a linebacker doesn't look great,

352
00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,959
Speaker 3: the secondary doesn't look great. I mean outside of Max Crosby.

353
00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,760
Speaker 3: If Christian Wilkins isn't healthy, it's like, oh, do you

354
00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,800
Speaker 3: trust them this defense? So you're they're gonna need I

355
00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,560
Speaker 3: think they're gonna need Darien Porter to be really good

356
00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,920
Speaker 3: as a rookie corner. That's a lot to ask because

357
00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,399
Speaker 3: who's your who's your best corner on this team right now?

358
00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:50,520
Speaker 3: And now it's that Eric Stokes who's horrendous, Like this

359
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,080
Speaker 3: secondary could be really bad, this defense could be really

360
00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,840
Speaker 3: bad and hold them back ultimately, So I think the

361
00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,479
Speaker 3: most one of the most important pieces on the defense,

362
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,359
Speaker 3: Like I don't know who else can raise the ceiling.

363
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:07,200
Speaker 3: You get you get Wilkins healthy, it's got to be

364
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,879
Speaker 3: like Porter being like a lockdown corners a rookie and

365
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,760
Speaker 3: like being a revelation, like a Sauce Garner type, allow

366
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,640
Speaker 3: you to do so many more things. That's a lot

367
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:19,680
Speaker 3: to ask that doesn't happen frequently. So yeah, it could

368
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 3: be a long year for this this defense once again.

369
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,960
Speaker 3: But the offense should be much more serious with Gino

370
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 3: Smith the quarterback and then you know who they have

371
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,560
Speaker 3: running the show now it should be a much more

372
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 3: serious operation. But the defense could ultimately just be their downfall.

373
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 3: But they should be more competitive on a weekend weekend basis.

374
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,320
Speaker 3: I just can think it stops. Not sure.

375
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:48,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're you're canceling out the competence of

376
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 1: your offense with this what looks like it's going to

377
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,680
Speaker 1: be a miserable defense. And it's just interesting to me

378
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 1: because yet another organization that year after year, doesn't matter

379
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 1: who's in charge doing what, they just can't figure it

380
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,760
Speaker 1: out defensively, They just can't get it, really get over

381
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 1: the hump and do it for any consistent amount of time.

382
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 1: So probably the same.

383
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 3: But I love Patrick Graham, he gets he gets nothing

384
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 3: to work with, by the way, Like I just love

385
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 3: some of the things he does s gnatically, But this

386
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 3: guy what he's the cards that he's dealt on a

387
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 3: year and year and basis it's there's only so much

388
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,200
Speaker 3: you can do from a scheme perspective.

389
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 1: And I will say, I will say, you know, one

390
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: of the things that is interesting to me, you mentioned

391
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 1: the receivers real quick to go back to them, because

392
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 1: it looks to me like you're going to be playing

393
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 1: quite a few gamescripts from a trailing position. And that's

394
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 1: another thing that it's a little bit one questionable how

395
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 1: block brock Bowers is a he's tight end, but he's

396
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 1: essentially a glorified slot receiver, right Like that's he doesn't

397
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 1: need to be in line. You got Mayor there, so

398
00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 1: you got Myers. So it just was interest saying that

399
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 1: best with a choice. And I like him, I like

400
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: some of his film, but I just think I don't

401
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 1: know if he was a fit. And it's a it's

402
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 1: already you're kind of seeing that in camp where Thornton

403
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 1: is the starter and Tucker is the starter and Myers

404
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 1: has kicked into the slot in three wide sets and

405
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: there it's they're already kind of having issues finding a

406
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: role for for Back and then it just I don't

407
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 1: know if it made sense. It's like you got too

408
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: many slot receivers again and.

409
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 3: Then end sets with team.

410
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but then Thornton is like a he's like

411
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 1: a super Like what do you get like nine balls

412
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: last year or something. He's a guy. A lot of

413
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be wind sprints, So you're kind of buying

414
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 1: into this slot receiver notion. But then you're not even

415
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 1: starting one of the thought receivers like where he could

416
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 1: be getting valuable uh reps. So, I mean, it's it's

417
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know it. I think it's gonna

418
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: be just like the defense is canceling it out and

419
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: Geno Smith, I mean he's had some weird stretches of

420
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: struggles red zone ish and things like that. So I

421
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 1: I think I think there too is too much in

422
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 1: the past for the for the Raiders, man, it's going

423
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: to be tough.

424
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be interesting to watch though. That's a lot

425
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: more interesting than last year.

426
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 1: Oh like Chip Kelly, what he's doing.

427
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's move on to the AFC North. To wrap

428
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 3: up the AFC, start with my beloved Baltimore Ravens. Look.

429
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,719
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, obviously one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

430
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 3: His cap hit the next three forty three, seventy five,

431
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 3: seventy five. So when you have a quarterback not on

432
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,479
Speaker 3: a rookie deal getting paid a lot of money, how

433
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: do you maintain that level of excellence? You've seen this

434
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 3: with the Chiefs, you know the Eagles you got a

435
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 3: draft well, and the Ravens have consistently done that. That's

436
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 3: how you have to plug in your roster holes and

437
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 3: you have to be smart. And the Ravens are one

438
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 3: of the more intelligent organizations. So what are some of

439
00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 3: their holes this year? Well? With Washington going down with

440
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 3: an Achilles' injury? Is that safety? So Starks Alchi Starks,

441
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 3: what can he give you at safety? And then your

442
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 3: edge rush still a little questionable? You get a steal

443
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: in the draft, and I think in Mike Green, what

444
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: can he give you in his rookie year? Those are

445
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 3: two of the key guys on defense that I'm watching

446
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: because look, the secondary on paper is one of the

447
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 3: best NFL. Five former first round draft picks are starting,

448
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: but the depth isn't great. And you got I mean

449
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 3: Gyr Alexander. How many games is gonna play a Woozia?

450
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 3: How many games is he gonna play if you need him?

451
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: I mean, these are guys at the last three years,

452
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: what have they played probably half the games? And then

453
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: just like your if Starks doesn't hit at safety or

454
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 3: really struggles, like you're the depth at safety without Washington

455
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 3: is very questionable. So this secondary needs to stay healthy.

456
00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 3: But I think if Green and Starks can hit right away,

457
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 3: sky's limit for this defense. You have Lamar Jackson my offense,

458
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: there's not too many questions there. The one thing that

459
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: I'm watching that I haven't had to watch in a while,

460
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 3: it's Kicker got a kicker battle should be looped who

461
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: they drafted, but he got Hoyland as well as in

462
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: there Tucker fell off, So I'm not like, oh my god,

463
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: there's no more justin Tucker around the last two years,

464
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 3: he's fallen off. But there was a long stretch where

465
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: Tucker came out and you just knew. I never had

466
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 3: that anxiety. You knew he's gonna make it. Now the Ravens,

467
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: who just they just can never can win close games. Now,

468
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 3: if you have a kicker question, that's something I'm watching.

469
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 3: How does Loop look? But I think Green and Starks

470
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: are the the two key guys on this defense that

471
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 3: can raise them another level. Do you have any quick

472
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: thoughts on the Ravens.

473
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: Bestew in the AFC, smartest team in the AFC. In

474
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: my opinion, I think that the key for them is

475
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: when you talk about some of their you're concern with

476
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: them in the secondary and whatnot. The thing is they

477
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: have contingency plans. You're like, Okay, well, you know, if

478
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: this guy doesn't hit, but they still have this guy

479
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: and like, like you know, Woozy, what is like a

480
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: fourth corner? And most importantly, you have guys that can

481
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: play man coverage when you need to. And I think

482
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: that's just something that like these some of those other

483
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: offenses with elak quarterbacks, like the the Chiefs and Bills.

484
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: Like I know, zone is the predominant coverage in the NFL,

485
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: but we see this year after year where in certain

486
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: spots it's just defenses get in bolden to just man

487
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: up until you can until you can stop it. And

488
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: if it's lait in the year and you're down a

489
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: couple of linemen or a receiver or two, it's gonna

490
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: be tough. And so I think Baltimore is just in

491
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: a good position, you know, even if there are questions

492
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: with that, I think that gives them an edge over

493
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: there there they.

494
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 3: Stay healthy because like you need the flexibility of Humpher

495
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: and Hamilton their versatility, and like if someone goes down,

496
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 3: then you got to lock one of them in somewhere,

497
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: and like say you got to move Humphrey outside or something.

498
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: And then we saw what difference it made when Humphrey

499
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: went into the slot predominantly and then Hamilton dropped back

500
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 3: more and then they changed the communication. But yeah, I mean,

501
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 3: the roster's loaded. We're kind of nitpicking here, but I'm

502
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: just watching starks Green kicking, kicking battle. Bravens are obviously

503
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 3: gonna mix be in the mix when it's all said

504
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: and done. Moving on to the Bengals, I mean, talk

505
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: about a poorly run organization. They're at the top of

506
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: the list. What's gonna go on with Trey Hendrickson. I

507
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 3: don't know, but wat getting his deal, which I wouldn't

508
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 3: paid him that much money, But that's not gonna help

509
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: matters for the Bengals. This is a team that without

510
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 3: Hendrickson in the field the last the last two years,

511
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: they were dead left the NFL and almost any single

512
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 3: pass rating pressure stat across the board. Us the guys,

513
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: that's seventeen and a half sacks back to back years,

514
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: and their defense has still been really, really bad. You

515
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: led league in quick pressures last year, six more than

516
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett. Without him, what happens is his defense, and then.

517
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: You're you're relying on.

518
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 3: You're relying on you drafted Stewart, who I didn't like

519
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: that draft pick. But I mean now he's like they're

520
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 3: like talk about him going back to college. This could

521
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 3: only happen, Yeah, unbelievable, only with angles. So uh, this

522
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: all comes down to, like the defense, I mean, can

523
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: Al Golden be a magician? H There's questions all over.

524
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: It would help if you know your rook like your

525
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 3: guard position gets upgraded. Can like one of your rookies

526
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: Fairchild or Rivers, can they contribute this year? Night or Carter?

527
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 3: Can they help on the defensive side of the ball.

528
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 3: There's just so many questions on this defense. And then

529
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: if you don't have Hendrickson, I don't know they're getting

530
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: stops and just yeah, if you're a Bengals fan, you

531
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: were for can Berrol finally be healthy early in the year.

532
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 3: That never happened. So that's something the watching camp. Can

533
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: you be finally ready to go right away? If you're

534
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: a Bengals spend this year, I don't see how the

535
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: defense is gonna be any good. You gotta hope Al

536
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 3: Golden is a magician. You figure out something, get Hendrickson,

537
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: you figure out something with him, and then you just

538
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: win one possession. You win, You go like a what

539
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: were the the Vikings last year were like nine and

540
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 3: one and one possession games? Yeah, the Chiefs obviously you

541
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: were eleven zero, Like, you just got to hope you

542
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 3: go like eight and two in one persession game one

543
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 3: posession shootouts and then make the playoffs and then I

544
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't I don't know if you have

545
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 3: the defense to make a deep run.

546
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: If this is why that this is the counterpoint to,

547
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, my criticism of some certain team like like

548
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: are they truly aiming for the ceiling with every pick

549
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: or they try and get committee guys, it's because look

550
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: at this Bengal team. I mean they're so top heavy and.

551
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 3: Twenty seventh and offensive line spending twenty fifth on defense spending.

552
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: It's hey, we have Burrow and elite receivers. What else

553
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: tell me another position group on this team that's even

554
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: that's not bottom ten. It's not the corners, it's not

555
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 3: the safeties, the linebackers, the offensive line, the defensive line,

556
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: the defensive line without Hendrickson, I mean what the rest

557
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: of their position groups, you could argue their bottom ten.

558
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the minute as they've had to spend more money,

559
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: it's just deteriorated because they got to that super Bowl

560
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: early on in Burrow's career. But every and even.

561
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: Even if they can't draft, that's why. So if you

562
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: have to pay your quarterbacks, they lineman, they can't hit

563
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: on their defensive guys, and then your roster falls apart.

564
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: But you can't fix it any other way.

565
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: And and and Burrow is not even like one locked

566
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: in elite weekend or year in, year out, Like the

567
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: year before last when he was just absolutely amazing. To

568
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: your point, he was hurt, he was banged up. I

569
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: think he ended up six point three yards in attempt

570
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: and then and then he was and then he got

571
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: hurt week ten and that was that. Uh, Higgins misses

572
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: five games a year like this.

573
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: It's just the running game stinks, their offensive line stinks,

574
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: the defense stinks.

575
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're playing, they're flirting with disaster across the board,

576
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: so I can't I can't take them seriously when this

577
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: Ravens team is. It's funny because the Ravens. That's how

578
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: those are. The two games of Ravens probably loose the

579
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 1: games Cincinnati somehow.

580
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: But what I mean, who does Barrow kind of reminds

581
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: me of like I have. I think Borrow's the top

582
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: five quarterback. I mean easily, I mean without a doubt,

583
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: like is Barrow Barrow is better than him, but like

584
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: it kind of reminds me of like Rivers and with

585
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: the Chargers, like just nothing interesting. They just nothing around

586
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: him could ever get figured out, and he had to

587
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: try to do too much and reached the pinnacle.

588
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: I almost feel like it's more heartbreaking with Burrow though,

589
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: because Rivers, I don't know, maybe something about his personality,

590
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: he just always kind of seemed like he was just

591
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: happy to be there and like even if he never

592
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl, I don't know. Maybe it's just

593
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: it was just the kids or the mannerisms, or he

594
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 1: was just like a goofball to me. So but Burrow,

595
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: I feel like he's like kind of like inwardly stewing,

596
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: and you kind of see it where he'll make these

597
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: comments about, Okay, you know you need to need to

598
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: lock up Higgins or Chase, Like he kind of makes

599
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: these selective comments, but I mean, he's got to realize

600
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: that they are just putting so much on his plate.

601
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: He's I think he's an average like thirty eight plus attempts.

602
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: You know, the league leading attempts every single year. It's

603
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: not only not just because they want to pass, because

604
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: they have to because their defense is always crap and

605
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: their run game is you know, it's always successful because

606
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: you have Joe Burrow and Chase in the Higgins, but

607
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: when it is it's just, yeah, another one of these teams.

608
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: You just wonder are they doing their best app to

609
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: maximize him or they did They just kind of feel like, Okay,

610
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: we got to the super Bowl, what was it, year two,

611
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: year three? And yeah, that would be easy to get

612
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: back because I.

613
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: Think the reason that I just I think I think

614
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: of versus like I remember the twenty ten Chargers, like

615
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: they were like led the league in offense, they were

616
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: like number one in yards and they didn't make the playoffs.

617
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: Like their special teams was a disaster there. I think

618
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: I think they were like secondly, and I think their

619
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: defense was actually decent that year. I don't know. All

620
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: these things always happened to him. There was just not

621
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: a lot of help. All right, let's move on to

622
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,239
Speaker 3: the Let's hit the Browns real quick. Before we get

623
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: to the Steelers Browns, obviously, the biggest storyline is gonna

624
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: be the quarterback snaps. How much of the rookies get

625
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: Who's gonna end up being the Week one starter? Are

626
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: we betting dinner on? Uh, you're gonna be in Chicago, right,

627
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: We're gonna be in Chicago for Week zero college football

628
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: twenty third if you're in the Chicago and more details

629
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: con but clear that off in your calendar. Uh, we

630
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: have a bet there. I unless you're backing off your bet,

631
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: I'm I'm betting that Flacco is the starting quarterback Week one.

632
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: Canna, I interest you in a similar bet. But so,

633
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: the one that I've seen on the market that I

634
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: think is a little more relevant is who who leads

635
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: the team in passing? Are when the season is over?

636
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: So no, no, no, because.

637
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 3: Right, well, there's also like if they whole the team,

638
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: if it's a disaster. Then it's like what who knows

639
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: what they're gonna do? Like they could just go to

640
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 3: the rookies with like seven weeks to go, you go

641
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: to like, see what we got with Sanders, see what

642
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: we got with I don't, I don't, I don't know.

643
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: I just think that Flacco is the best option right

644
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: off the bat. Not a picket guy in the least

645
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 3: this team, So like the quarterback battles, is interesting to

646
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: watch what this team has to do to be successful.

647
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: Their defense has to stop getting up a million explosive plays.

648
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: But the defense has some potential if there's secondary rebounds.

649
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: So how can this offense not be a flaming disaster?

650
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: Like they're going back to the old Stefanski offense, which

651
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: is kind of like a trend in the NFL. So

652
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: what do they need to do? They need to be

653
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 3: able to run the ball. They're going to go more

654
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: two tight end sets. So how does all that come

655
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: together and work? Well, you need like a power running game. Well,

656
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: the problem is what's gonna happen with the Judkins. Now

657
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: that supposed to be your guy, Like, so that could

658
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: be a disaster. Does Sampson step up? Now? Your offensive

659
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: line needs to be good. Now there's the potential there

660
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 3: if they stay healthy. Dwan Jones at left tackle? Is

661
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: he the guy? That's something I'm watching apparently slim down.

662
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: Is he ready to take that over? Or is it

663
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: going to be end up being like Lucas, I don't know.

664
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: The offensive line asks the potential and then howld Fannon

665
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: my guy? Is he ready? Because if you can have

666
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: two tight ends on the field, I think that's when

667
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 3: this offense could operate optimally. So it's like the offensive line,

668
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: the two tight ends. Who's going to be the running back?

669
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: There's a lot of questions here. Who's gonna be a quarterback?

670
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: Uh So, yeah, a lot to watch With the Browns,

671
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 2: Verry lost the plot.

672
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean, this is it's gotten. I feel like everything

673
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: if you just go back.

674
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: And look at the halfway through the year, Barry trades

675
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: for de Veto, trades for another quarterback, and Tommy Devita

676
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: is starting for the Browns.

677
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: But you know it's I mean, this team is I

678
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: think it really started with the or maybe like that

679
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: was went into high gear with the Watson contract and

680
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: the and all that, but it's just been move after move.

681
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: The drafts have gotten worse. Everything's reactive now, Like I

682
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: don't I don't even know that it benefits them to

683
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: go back to those the fancy office. But it was

684
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: also questionable why they went to like such a spread offense.

685
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like it suited anybody. They had some

686
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: of the worst quarterbacks to take snaps in the league

687
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: over the past three years. You're talking up Kenny Pickett

688
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: for some strange reason. You're you're talking looking up Joe Flacco,

689
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: who is like you should have just been happy to

690
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,479
Speaker 1: get that five GM stretch two years ago. He wasn't

691
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: even that same guy last year, or he would still

692
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: be in Indianapolis in my opinion, So like this is

693
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: this is the guy that you're hoping starts for you

694
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: in week one when you have rookies. I just think

695
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: that it's gotten worse and worse and worse. And then

696
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: they're talking about Judgings. Oh yeah, we want him to

697
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: be reminded us of Nick Chubb like that. That's always

698
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: worries him to me. Where you're trying to harken back

699
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: to a player without any idea of how it truly

700
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: benefits you, and it's just a it's just based on

701
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: a combat. I just I just think Barry's lost the plot.

702
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: I think they have five quarterbacks, which means they have none.

703
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: And Jerry Drew was only good with the machine.

704
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: They're not a great they're not a great run organization,

705
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: but they're drowning from the Watson. I mean, look, they

706
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: have seniors of elite quarterback. They took a shot at wats.

707
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: And watching my be the best quarterback on a roster

708
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: right now? No, no that, Like, dude, he.

709
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: Used the word quarterback in the NFL last year, and

710
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: do you.

711
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: Think all you think a forty year old Joe Flacco

712
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: with two Day three picks and Kenny Pickett doesn't have

713
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: that right now, sadly for now, until until we see

714
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: him for a couple of games and realize, Oh like

715
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: guys like that, like the when the flour finally truly

716
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: comes and it could definitely come throw.

717
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: The ball down the field like Watson won't even do that,

718
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 3: just saying man like with Watson, it's not, nothing's gonna happen, unseerious.

719
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: Team, Come on, two running backs and two quarterbacks and

720
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: somehow Flacco and Picket are getting talked up. Come on,

721
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: come on.

722
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: The AFC with the Steelers obviously made some splashes with

723
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers coming in the trades with the Dolphins bringing

724
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 3: Johnny Smith. I think could be a good fit again

725
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 3: with Arthur Smith. You had Jalen Ramsey in the secondary,

726
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: so curious see how the secondary comes to other Can

727
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: Roman Wilson give them anything? By the way, Like that's

728
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: something that I'm watching. And then that young offensive line,

729
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: They've invested a lot of resources into it. They needs

730
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: to take the next step. I think the interior is

731
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: a lot of potential. They're tackles with Jones Batanu. I'm

732
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: watching both of them to see how they develop. And

733
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: then Aaron Rodgers, like is he how washed? Is he?

734
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 3: How much was it an injury last year? Like if

735
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: you're a Steelers fan, you're just hoping that this is

736
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: I mentioned this on the pod before that. This is

737
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 3: Brett Farr in his swan song with the Vikings. He

738
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: went to the Jets. He had twenty two touchdowns and

739
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: twenty two interceptions with the Jets, and then he went

740
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: to the Vikings and they were like a play away

741
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: from going to the super Bowl. They lost an overtime,

742
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 3: and I think in the overtime that the Saints in

743
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: the NFC Championship Game nine, I think, and he threw

744
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: a kick late. But the Steelers, like, doesn't even matter

745
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: what we're talking about like that, They're just they're gonna

746
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: win the turnover margin. They're plus fifty since twenty nineteen.

747
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 3: They're gonna win all the one passion games. They're gonna

748
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: finish nine and eight? Does it? Does it even matter

749
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 3: who's on the team, Like this is just gonna happen.

750
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, But curiously, how the secondary comes together? Can

751
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: Roam Wilson give them anything? Looking at this young offense,

752
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: find how they come together, particularly the tackle spots and

753
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 3: then just closing too Rogers and how that all works out.

754
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: Given me quick thoughts on the Steelers before we get

755
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: out of here.

756
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this team's ceiling is ultimately gonna be

757
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: capped because Rogers is definitely too washed to I think

758
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: what you're probably gonna have to do in the playoffs

759
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: is beat at least two of Mahomes Allen and Lamar Jackson.

760
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: I just don't think this team is truly built for that, now,

761
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: you know? And again, is it something where you're looking

762
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: back at trying and replicate, Like Okay, Arthur Smith, Ryan

763
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: Tannehill era where you you just kind of relied on

764
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: a run game. You got Kleb Johnson, the rookie who

765
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: you know. I like that they're thinking a head like, Okay,

766
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: we're probably gonna see stack boxes, so let's go out

767
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: and get a guy that can that can beat them.

768
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: But it's still it's still not ideal, and uh, you're

769
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: kind of showing your hand that you that you're worried

770
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: about defensive stacking the box aggressive we go after a

771
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: guy like John new who was the uh the real

772
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: you've really helped out that Tua. I don't think that

773
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: two offense could have functioned half as well with him

774
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: getting the ball out super quick and essentially not not

775
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: staying in the park for anything. Like now we're just

776
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: gonna see that with Rodgers because Rogers that the difference

777
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: between Rogers and Farv is Farv was was old and

778
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: in gimpy, and but he still would just throw it

779
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: down the field. And when Rogers does that, it's just

780
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: not good. Things aren't happening anymore. And I don't I mean, metcalf,

781
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 1: I don't think you want to make him run all

782
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: all inefficient routes and you know, I think you have

783
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: to you him, you know, in a very true future

784
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: role intermediate, short everything, and he has to be a

785
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: target hot because you might go of pickings and then

786
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: and then John Who and those guys can be complimentary,

787
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: but uh, you really have to kind of save Rogers

788
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: from himself. And your defense is gonna be good enough

789
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: to get you there. But when you play the big dogs,

790
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think you have enough on offense.

791
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 3: That's yeah, this this team has not been run correctly

792
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: for years. I would have traded t J. Watt. By

793
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 3: the way, I'm not giving t J. Watt, Who's gonna

794
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 3: be thirty one this year like the beginning of the year,

795
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: even three years, one hundred and twenty three million?

796
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: No, thank Yeah, it could be the beginning of the

797
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: end because we always we see you see it, you

798
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: make you make financially, Yeah.

799
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: Making these signs. I know that he was hurt, Yeah

800
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 3: that was dealing with an injury, but uh, not getting

801
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: that much money too for a team that you like,

802
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: it's not I don't think it's to win the super

803
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: Bowl this year. But that's how they're acting with him.

804
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: Theyre saying, oh we got Rogers are gonna win the

805
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: Super Bowl this year. We got to make sure that

806
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 3: we keep good for him. I mean you probably played

807
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 3: that that that and with the leverage, but this team

808
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: needs a reset, Like that's that they've just been starving

809
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: for a reset. They just got to find their quarterback.

810
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: And it's hard to do when you're just nine and eight.

811
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: Every year, no one's separating in AFC. Like, it's funny

812
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: to me that, like Pitts, the reason Pittsburgh's probably even

813
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: in this position is because you have the three elites,

814
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: and I would say, oh, oh, Baltimore this year really

815
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: is truly playing it, maximizing it from a intelligent standpoint

816
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: in what they're doing. But they none of these other

817
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: teams that we thought might rise up have really made

818
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: it case. Maybe Denver can you can kind of do

819
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: it now, But like you had the Chargers, I mean

820
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: that was embarrassing in the playoffs, Houston, we thought, and

821
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: then they can they go and regress again. Miami at

822
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: one point was a factor. Now they're a ship show.

823
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: Is like, that's this is why pittsburghs hanging around. It

824
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: is because we.

825
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: Say that, and but like then you look at their

826
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: advanced numbers that this is like a they should be

827
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: like a six win six seven win team. Every year

828
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: they're sixty two and seven when they win the turnover

829
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 3: margin since two thousand and nine, ninety percent win rate

830
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 3: the rest of the NFL. I think you're around like

831
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: seventy percent. They're plus fifty internal margins in twenty nineteen.

832
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 3: They're one possession games. They're forty three to twenty one.

833
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: They're winning close to seventy and they don't have e

834
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: laite quarterbacks. Like it's crazy this happens every year. They're

835
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: plus fifty internal margins to only team that's been positive

836
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: in turnal margins every year since twenty nineteen, Like, can

837
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 3: they keep winning the turner battle and winning all these

838
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: close games? I don't know.

839
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: Football is at the weird based right now because it's

840
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: like even Baltimore is like it took them forever to

841
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,439
Speaker 1: get rid of Roman and now they got Monkin and look,

842
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: laurar Jackson might have one of the best quarterbacks of

843
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: all top. Meanwhile in Pittsburgh, let's let's let's go out

844
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: and get Arthur Smith. That's the guy that that we

845
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: want to take us past. Uh, you know some of

846
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks of all of our generation of all time.

847
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: Like it's I don't know, it's man Tomlin. I think

848
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: he gets too much flack. I think the reason they

849
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: win these one position games is because he has we

850
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: work some magic with that defense and just gets those

851
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: guys ready to go. They just need to help him

852
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: on offense. And it just has been there.

853
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: The good thing that could work for the Steels is

854
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 3: like if you if you're a team in the NFC,

855
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: it's not the one of the elites, then from a

856
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: timing perspective, in two years, like in two years is

857
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: maybe when you want to hit that rookie quarterback, right

858
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: because the last like four or five years you've had

859
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: Mahomes Alan Jackson, so like it's that was gonna be

860
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 3: hard to break through no matter what. So like in

861
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: two years from now, if you get that rookie quarter

862
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 3: and you hit and then you get that rookie contract

863
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 3: and then build your team when these other quarterbacks are

864
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: starting to age a little bit more, maybe that's the

865
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: right window. And then so like that's taken the optimosphere.

866
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: You've been you've been competitive at least like you've made

867
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: the playoffs. If you if you're a fan. You've been

868
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: interested every week, so I don't know. All right, that's

869
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: another friendly the FC. We gotta get out here and

870
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: get to the NFC. Uh close this out here?

871
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah there is. So that's gonna do it for this

872
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: episode of the Action Network podcast. We'll have the NFC

873
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: episode out shortly as well. And again, don't forget to

874
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: save the date for August twenty third in Chicago. If

875
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: you're in the area, I'll be there, Turner will be there,

876
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: Stuck will be there. You can find Stuck on ac

877
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: Stuckey to do them at Chris Raybaud. We're at those

878
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 1: same handles on the free award winning Action Network app.

879
00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: So next time we get this money, look it. Action

880
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: Network reminds you please gamble responsibly.

881
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 3: If you or someone you care about has a gambling problem,

882
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: help is available twenty four to seven at one eight

883
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: hundred Gambler