WEBVTT - A GM’s Perspective with Michael Lombardi

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<v Speaker 1>From the King of sports Books comes the Key sports

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<v Speaker 1>podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Ferrara and Olivia Harland Decker. Welcome to Unleashed. The sports

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<v Speaker 1>calendar is absolutely packed. Oh my gosh, last weekend, Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a lot. I was kind of overwhelmed. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie. The college football chaos, some NFL playoff

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<v Speaker 1>type games, all these quarterback injuries that could affect some seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>some betting. Were you overwhelmed? I was overwhelmed, but I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't help but think of you because you also were

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<v Speaker 1>working this weekend, so you throw that into a full

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<v Speaker 1>NFL and college slate. I was perusing Instagram. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>you doing that. We call that like the home a loan.

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<v Speaker 1>You're home alone in it through the airport. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>you must have been. Oh god, I was home alone

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<v Speaker 1>in it. I worked the SEC Championship game, which I

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<v Speaker 1>do every year for like five or six years. I

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<v Speaker 1>love working that game. My alma Maters Georgia, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>really fun. They're usually in the game. Five of the

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<v Speaker 1>last six years they've been in the game, but they'd

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<v Speaker 1>only one once leading up to this weekend, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>so exciting. It been since since Georgia had won, despite

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<v Speaker 1>winning a national championship since then, so they had lost

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<v Speaker 1>in this game. It had just evaded them. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>really fun and like really sweet to get over that

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<v Speaker 1>hump um and just the game was really exciting. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite moments if I can for a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>just because this was a fun weekend for me. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this really good defensive player for Georgia named Christopher Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>and he blocked a field goal and l s U

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<v Speaker 1>started getting off the field. They thought, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a turnover, and he just stands there

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute. He pauses. I don't know if he

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<v Speaker 1>saw it on social media, and then he starts running.

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<v Speaker 1>He takes it all the way into the house. And

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<v Speaker 1>during the game, I'm on my phone and I see

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<v Speaker 1>this clip is going viral. Of the Georgia coaches in

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<v Speaker 1>the press box and they're going no, no, no, no yea.

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<v Speaker 1>And so in my postgame interview as the first person

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<v Speaker 1>to talk with Christopher after the game, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get back to the locker room and you

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<v Speaker 1>get on your phone, you're going to see that there's

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<v Speaker 1>this clip going viral, and I told him about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was shocked, and so it's just a really fun moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I had some key shift moves to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I leave Mercedes Benz Stadium, which is in downtown Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to Hartsfield Jackson, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get home to see my baby. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to wake up at home tomorrow. It's just different when

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<v Speaker 1>you got a kid. It really is. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to stay on the road forever. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>dying to get home, and I look at my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>It says we'll get there in like thirty minutes. My

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<v Speaker 1>flight boards in fifteen. I made my I made my flight.

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<v Speaker 1>I made my flight. I still don't know how that

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<v Speaker 1>was physically possible, because my flight was boarding as I

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<v Speaker 1>was in traffic, and anyone who knows that airport, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a mess. It's huge. You had to get some lucky

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<v Speaker 1>breaks along the way. I'm guessing you didn't check a

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<v Speaker 1>bag right, carry on nor carry on. Your gate couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been too far from security, right. Sometimes you get

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<v Speaker 1>like a twenty minute walk. It was at b gates,

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<v Speaker 1>And again, we're really in the weeds. Here Cardsfield Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>When you going through South Security, I mean it goes

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to f so B. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>little lucky. I only had two of those like train stops.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I was at the end of the concourse.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when I had a home alone it and I

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<v Speaker 1>was in heels, Jerry, I was in heels and my

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<v Speaker 1>roller bag. I was in like a blazer, like I

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<v Speaker 1>was in like a full work woman outfit. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just Lookingna And you can tell my voice is still

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit gone because working that game, you're just

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<v Speaker 1>so excited and you're extending your voice over the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a really, really great weekend. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe I made my flight. And that was the most

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<v Speaker 1>well deserved can of wine I've ever had in a

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<v Speaker 1>pasta cup on that flight. That that one tasted really good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I I enjoyed this weekend a lot. Obviously, the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>Commander's game was interesting. With the time we'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>all that. We have an awesome show. If Mike Lombardi

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<v Speaker 1>joining us, who I mean, I he has one of

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<v Speaker 1>those podcasts that you just learned stuff from, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>where you go if you really want to learn. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying we don't teach anything, but if you truly

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<v Speaker 1>want to learn about the NFL, so we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Lombardi about everything that happened this weekend. But I

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<v Speaker 1>talk a lot of trash about Sunday don't have no

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<v Speaker 1>kids birthday parties, stuff like that. I did attend one

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<v Speaker 1>because I have all this guilt because I'm working like

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<v Speaker 1>a day job these days with this writer's room that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in. I Sunday one o'clock Giants Commanders. I was

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<v Speaker 1>at Playhouse Square in Cleveland watching Rudolph the Musical with

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<v Speaker 1>my three year old son, which was incredible. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna fly. I was a hundred percent watching Red Zone

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<v Speaker 1>on my phone and I don't care. I was not.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not the whole time, but a lot. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why they have WiFi in that building.

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<v Speaker 1>For Dad's mom whoever, I just like was bre hitting

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<v Speaker 1>you like a little bit. Jacob was on her lap,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I just kept passive aggressively saying, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's only the biggest game of the year. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest game for the Giants in five years. But no, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go the route off. All good, all good? And

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<v Speaker 1>how do you justify it? Because then after you're walking

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<v Speaker 1>out a picture, she says, so you know, did the

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<v Speaker 1>Giants win? Tie? Yeah? But because like was it worth it?

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<v Speaker 1>You had to watch a tie? So what are your

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<v Speaker 1>takeaways from that game? I don't know if either of

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<v Speaker 1>those two teams are really good or really bad. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't figure it out. I think they're both decent. The

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<v Speaker 1>glaring thing to me is I think that was actually

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<v Speaker 1>a really positive game for Daniel Jones and the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>He made the play to win the game. He hit

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<v Speaker 1>Slayton on a pass that would the game would have

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty much over from that point, and Slayton dropped

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<v Speaker 1>its second most drops maybe ever. So I do think

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<v Speaker 1>the tie will help make the playoffs. It's better than

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<v Speaker 1>the loss, but it just puts that much more pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on two weeks from now when they play the Commanders

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<v Speaker 1>again in d C, and that's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>tough game. I am definitely one of those people who

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<v Speaker 1>cheers on Taylor Heineke, I gotta admit, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>to seventy five yards completions forty two touchdowns. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sharing against your Giants I'm just saying that Taylor Heineke

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<v Speaker 1>is a great story to get behind. But yes, his

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<v Speaker 1>work cut out for him because now all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bigger underdog quarterback in the NFL. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>even believe what's going on in San Francisco, Mr Purty, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's hard to say you feel bad for

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy g but you do feel bad with every injury.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't ever want to see players get injured. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was one of the most interesting questions of

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<v Speaker 1>the year going into the playoffs. If the Niners reached

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl and or win the Super Bowl, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta run it back, right. We talked about it last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's something I want to ask Lombardi. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>automatic that you run that team back or as much

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<v Speaker 1>as possible? Now? I just think that that obviously doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But Pretty looked good. I'm sorry that. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>defense looked phenomenal, and he didn't need to do a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot, but Pretty did look very, very competent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks great four to ten, two touchdowns, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they're going to need him to do that much.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say That's why I'm not that worried. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sounding the alarms for San Francisco right now. They

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<v Speaker 1>have one of the best defenses in the league, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best coaches in the league on the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball, best left tackle, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>best playmakers. They're undefeated since Christian McCaffrey came. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that Kyle Shanahan's system has him playing point guard in

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<v Speaker 1>a basketball sense, like he doesn't need to take his

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<v Speaker 1>own shots, he needs to set everyone else up. I

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<v Speaker 1>really think it's it's interesting. But like you said, with

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy G, this guy's snake bite. I feel really bad

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<v Speaker 1>for Jimmy G. I was just thinking about his career

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<v Speaker 1>as a hole leading up to this. Drafted by the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots to be Brady's back up, I thought, maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of years, Okay, Brady's going nowhere, So he

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<v Speaker 1>goes to San Francisco, comes within a play or two

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<v Speaker 1>of winning the Super Bowl. They draft a young guy

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<v Speaker 1>third overall, so now he has a second season ending

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<v Speaker 1>injury in the last couple of years. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. He can't catch a break. Thank God, he's

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<v Speaker 1>so pretty, but he that's kind of it his football career.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always just right there and he gets he gets screwed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're coming off that Instagram clip of him at

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<v Speaker 1>the Warriors game where every single Warriors cheerleader walked by

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<v Speaker 1>and was like Hi, Jerry. I just kept going. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know much about brock Purty? Obviously? I think everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>done a lot of research since he's been playing, and

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<v Speaker 1>now seems like the guy who's going to be there

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think they really I know they signed

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson off the Broncos practice team, but right for a backup. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you know if anything about brock Purty, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if it's a guy who's like a rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>first second, third year, like I probably covered them in college,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did. I covered Brock pretty a lot in college.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually he has. At Iowa State, he was really relevant,

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<v Speaker 1>big name in college football for a handful of years

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<v Speaker 1>because he played super exciting. He had a big arm,

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<v Speaker 1>he was confident, he was swaggy. He beat out the

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<v Speaker 1>guy in front of him, like mid season. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>one game I think he actually was inserted midway through

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<v Speaker 1>a game I had at Oklahoma State and he was electric.

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<v Speaker 1>So but that's a college you know, completely different game. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a different game in the NFL. But what's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool about him He got most of his

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<v Speaker 1>college offers really late his senior year because he had

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<v Speaker 1>mono his junior year, so he didn't play much football.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't get many offers. And then he has this

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<v Speaker 1>amazing senior year, but Iowa State had offered him so

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<v Speaker 1>early that he wanted to stick with them, so he

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<v Speaker 1>even turned down a scholarship to play at Alabama and others,

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<v Speaker 1>but Alabama like so, this guy is talented so much

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<v Speaker 1>so that Nick Saban wanted them. And then he goes

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of a school no one thinks about Iowa

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<v Speaker 1>State and does well in the Big Twelve. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they're done with Brock Purty. No, And the

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<v Speaker 1>defense showed you. I mean, it was a great example

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<v Speaker 1>of defense versus offense. The defense was flat out just

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<v Speaker 1>good enough to beat. They didn't even need him to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything. So but let's just say, my Seahawks ticket

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<v Speaker 1>to win a division, which would dropped last week and

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about getting off it back in play.

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<v Speaker 1>There's still only one game back from the Niners and

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<v Speaker 1>they will meet again, so that Seahawks to win the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC West. I know they're the underdog and the Niners

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<v Speaker 1>of the favorite, but that is still very much in place.

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<v Speaker 1>Seahawks looked good. Yeah, I was looking at opening nods

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<v Speaker 1>for that division, so forty Niners opening nods was plus

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<v Speaker 1>two thirty and now it's minus four hundred. That's with

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<v Speaker 1>the Brock pretty news. So there's still the favor in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC West. Seattle's next up at plus three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>if someone's still trying to buy that ticket. But look,

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<v Speaker 1>if the playoffs started today, San Francisco would play the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they'd win. I think they'd win to

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't know how with everything that Giants have

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<v Speaker 1>going on at receiver and lack thereof, I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how they would move the ball against the Niners.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it would have to be a flukey fluky

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<v Speaker 1>type that which Giant. Historically Giants and the Niners that

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<v Speaker 1>hit fluky stuff has happened. You know, Joe Montana got

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<v Speaker 1>knocked out of a game and Colin Kaepernick had an

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<v Speaker 1>awful game like this only bad game of the year

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<v Speaker 1>versus the Giants in the playoffs, so there is a

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<v Speaker 1>history there, but no, I don't know how the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>had moved the ball against that Niners defense since they

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<v Speaker 1>Now this weekend we have a much anticipated, a just

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<v Speaker 1>classic on the Gridiron meeting Rock Purty and Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to very late draft. I mean, brock Purty potentially

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<v Speaker 1>could be like, you can't say he's gonna beat Tom Brady,

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<v Speaker 1>but he has the origin story at least so far.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he was Mr. Irrelevant. But let's just be clear.

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<v Speaker 1>If San Francisco makes a deep playoff run here with

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<v Speaker 1>Rock Party at quarterback, we need have Jeff Perlman write

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<v Speaker 1>his book now just started now because this would be

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<v Speaker 1>the most unheard of thing. It's never happened in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL before. And you look at Tom Brady, what he

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<v Speaker 1>was a sixth round pick six or seven? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>always confused if he was six or I think six,

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<v Speaker 1>and brock Purty was literally the last pick in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Irrelevant. That's kind of a different story. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that is falling so far, and he's a rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a rookie. It's not like he's been like an

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<v Speaker 1>eternal backup that you know is competent whatever, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>rookie and he was Mr. Irrelevant, so this story would

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<v Speaker 1>be incredible if if they can play with him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brady, if you remember, people forget because he's been

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<v Speaker 1>around for a hundred thousand years that first Patriots Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl up. All you gotta do is just manage the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the Pats had a good defense, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>good run game. They had a great coach. So there

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<v Speaker 1>are eerie things. But look, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Because although Tom Brady for every moment that you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh he's done, the Bucks are done, and he does

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<v Speaker 1>some crazy stuff with three minutes to go, it is

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<v Speaker 1>awful watching the Bucks. I I hate I'm like hate

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<v Speaker 1>watching the Bucks all the time. I mean that Monday

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<v Speaker 1>night game was unprecedented. I would love to know the

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<v Speaker 1>viewership from like at the final five minutes when they

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<v Speaker 1>were down there team Tampa Bay and then they come

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<v Speaker 1>back obviously to win. I would love to know how

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<v Speaker 1>many TV sets were turned off. I sound like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen sixties right now. How many people have

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<v Speaker 1>turned off the game and then quickly turned it back

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<v Speaker 1>on at the end when you know, someone texts them.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you watching this? So you just reminded me of

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<v Speaker 1>my when Entourage first started. My mom would put like

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<v Speaker 1>all the TV's on in the house when Entourage on,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that each TV like a viewer. So yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's adorable. By the way, later in the show, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get back to our entraged segment. We missed

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<v Speaker 1>last week because I was traveling and I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>time to watch. But now I am caught up and

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<v Speaker 1>I have so many questions to ask you later in

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I'm excited, can't wait. Yeah. I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>entering season five, which is my second favorite season, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to have a little chat about that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you two on the heels of

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<v Speaker 1>the forty Niners conversation, and we do record this on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>so this might be settled by the time this air

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<v Speaker 1>is on Thursday. But Baker Mayfield was cut from Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>this week, and a lot of people thought, oh, perfect timing.

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco needs a quarterback. Baker is a former number

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<v Speaker 1>one pick, He's a former Heisman winner. There's still something

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<v Speaker 1>to like with Baker Mayfield. I know he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of haters, but he can play. It's sad that

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<v Speaker 1>he failed a third string in Carolina. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know how or why. But do you feel like San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco is a good spot for him? In last Michael Lombardi,

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<v Speaker 1>But do you feel like there's any team that could

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<v Speaker 1>use his services with the way quarterback was this year?

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely don't think that Baker necessarily needs to worry

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<v Speaker 1>like will he get another shot or not? I think

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<v Speaker 1>he will. I don't think it's gonna be with the

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<v Speaker 1>Niners unless it's it's going to be an insurance package

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<v Speaker 1>almost for them, because I think they're going to roll

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<v Speaker 1>the dice with pretty I think they probably liked what

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<v Speaker 1>they saw. And he's been with the team. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>the backup while he was third string, but then Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Lance went down so early he's been getting reps as

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<v Speaker 1>the backup quarterback for a minute. So I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>it happening unless truly they want to just bolster up

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback spot. I don't. I don't think it happens

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<v Speaker 1>with the Niners. I don't think they need. And the

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Johnson part of it all, who he knows, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the la Florsa. He knows the system, so I just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't see it, and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>team really does that. Why not why not just wait

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<v Speaker 1>and then bring him in for workouts and talks and

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<v Speaker 1>sign him in the off season, because you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>if they signed him, and Lombardi could speak to this

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<v Speaker 1>better than I can. You know, you don't have his

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<v Speaker 1>rights for next year or so why not just wait?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see I don't think there's any other team

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<v Speaker 1>that's just close enough where Baker would put them over

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<v Speaker 1>the edge. The Niners will be the only team. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it happens. Do you know. I don't because

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<v Speaker 1>they asked Kyle Shanahan about it on Sunday or Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, I'm a fan of Bakers, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not true. I'm a fan of Bakers, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're okay, which I think says it all. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not his decision, so we'll see. Okay, there's one

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<v Speaker 1>more quarterback qualm. I wanted to pick your brain on.

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<v Speaker 1>So we haven't talked about this before. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>air this out and see what you think, Okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll ask Michael Lombardi too. But just as I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of looking at where the Packers stand with Aaron Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone's like, oh, the Packers are stuck with them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're stuck, And recently both sides came out saying they

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<v Speaker 1>want to him to return next year. I feel like, again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a GM obviously, and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>this really is the best solution, but it is a solution,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just wanna I want to hear what you

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<v Speaker 1>think about this. So Tennessee, they are right there, they

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<v Speaker 1>are ready to win. They have a great defense, good coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>I think could use a better quarterback. Aaron Rodgers is

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<v Speaker 1>building a house in Nashville. Now, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>do end up moving to Nashville. We were just talking

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<v Speaker 1>before the show, like a lot of Californians moved to Austin.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a similar thing. But as the Packers and

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron just signed a three year, hundred fifty million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>extension and the only way out of it is really retirement,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if he would try to get traded or

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<v Speaker 1>retire and then unretire and try to go to Nashville

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<v Speaker 1>where he could probably win more games sooner, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it necessarily is horrible for the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers because they'd get a bunch of draft picks, they

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<v Speaker 1>would hit dead cap space, but it would be like

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen million the first year, million the next year. But

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<v Speaker 1>if Jordan's Love can play, which again we don't really know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a wash because you're not paying Jordan's Love,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not paying all the young guys like Christian Watson,

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<v Speaker 1>Romeo Dabbs. The only like big money guy on that

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<v Speaker 1>team is David Bactieri, your left tackle. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>get all these draft picks from Tennessee, you get a

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<v Speaker 1>receiver that hits, then you can kind of even get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the next level of money guys like Randall Cobs,

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy Watkins, Alan Lazard and again this may be complete

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<v Speaker 1>vs I'm spitting out here. I just feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fits for both sides, and it gives green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay a fresh start. I think that is a really,

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<v Speaker 1>really good case that you just laid out because when

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<v Speaker 1>you think of Aaron Rodgers, look with green Bay, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a good draft pick this year, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's only one pick, and they'll have a better second

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<v Speaker 1>round pick, so they will have assets to make the

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<v Speaker 1>team better going into next year. I get and Watson

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<v Speaker 1>obviously has shown remarkable bounce back factor since his start

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<v Speaker 1>of the year, so he's a piece too. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting scenario because I do think I haven't thought

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<v Speaker 1>of the Titans till you mentioned it. But and I

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<v Speaker 1>clocked the building a house, I don't really ever. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the only time that ever truly factored in was

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<v Speaker 1>when Lebron was building like his mega giant mansion in

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<v Speaker 1>l A. It's like, because he's going to the Lakers,

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<v Speaker 1>like what not a surprise. But I think for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys, just because they're building a house

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere does not automatically plant No. But I think you

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<v Speaker 1>it brought you to a good, good point because it

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<v Speaker 1>is a good fit and the Titans are really close.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked Tannehill, I don't. I kind of would say,

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<v Speaker 1>see how it goes with Titans this year if they

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<v Speaker 1>make a run with Tannehill and who knows, but if

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<v Speaker 1>they get bounced out early, fou was him, I'd much

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<v Speaker 1>rather play in that division than have to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings and the Lions, who look like they're actually

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<v Speaker 1>a juggernaut coming in. I mean, it's insane to see

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<v Speaker 1>what the Lions have put together. I can't believe that

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<v Speaker 1>the Lions are favored at home against the Vikings. Someone

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<v Speaker 1>tell me why I think the Lions are making the playoffs? What? Well, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear your case, because I sniffed

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<v Speaker 1>around at that too. They're basically two games out and

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<v Speaker 1>their schedule, they are obviously home for the Vikings this week,

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<v Speaker 1>so if they win this week, then I do think

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<v Speaker 1>you are in business. Then they go at the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>which is no longer a walk game, a walkover game,

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<v Speaker 1>because Mike White has something to say about that. At

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<v Speaker 1>the Panthers. The Panthers are so confusing. They're one of

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<v Speaker 1>these teams I can't figure out, Like they flirt with you,

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<v Speaker 1>like we might be good, and then they just saw

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<v Speaker 1>like they just ghost you because then they suck. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happens in that game. But then

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<v Speaker 1>home against the Bears, final game of the season in

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay against your potentially Jordan's love Packers and potentially

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<v Speaker 1>just dead in the water Packers. I they're already dead

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<v Speaker 1>in the war on Every game they win only hurts

0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.399
<v Speaker 1>them at this point, it's just the truth. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, but we had to beat Chicago, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>someone had happened. But I think the Lions beat Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>and Green Bay. I think they certainly can beat the Panthers.

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<v Speaker 1>Could they still get in the playoffs if they lose

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<v Speaker 1>to the Vikings and Jets, But when I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that will put them at Let's see their five and seven.

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<v Speaker 1>If they go three and the two, then because they

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<v Speaker 1>go three and two eight nine, Yeah, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that gets in because right now you got the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>seven four and one, Commanders seven five and one, Seahawks

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<v Speaker 1>seven and five. It's a it's a two game chase,

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<v Speaker 1>so it would be tough thing. There's a few winnable

0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.760
<v Speaker 1>games Allions had earlier in the year. But I am

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<v Speaker 1>just blown away. And fans listening to this show, if

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<v Speaker 1>you are willing to lay, everyone's gonna take the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be insane. The Vikings are plus two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. The Vikings are what eleven and one?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know the Tenant too, whatever their record is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is crazy. This is absolutely crazy. Suspect line, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Peter Andrew is gonna hit on that one

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<v Speaker 1>in their final segment. I don't know what we could

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<v Speaker 1>leave it to Peter Andrew because I think he had

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<v Speaker 1>the giant. He so lucky. He I think he had

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<v Speaker 1>the over. You know, we had the under forty and

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<v Speaker 1>a half and the game ended in the tie. Soe

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<v Speaker 1>but a half point. It's like he was rooting for

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<v Speaker 1>the time over time. Oh my god. Certainly he was

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<v Speaker 1>not the only one. So what do you mean these

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<v Speaker 1>teams that are flirting with you? What do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>by that? I mean from a betting perspective, the teams

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<v Speaker 1>that just look when you look at the lines from

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the year till now, it's like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my team, Like if it's like relationships. I ran

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<v Speaker 1>this whole bit out in my mind of just the

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<v Speaker 1>teams that I've had relationships with this year flirty we're dating,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not relationships, and where they end, Like for instance,

0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:02.439
<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville Jacksonville Jaguar are that exact team that you actually

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<v Speaker 1>think you're dating them and they just ghost you completely.

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<v Speaker 1>You never hear from them again, Like they win two

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago and then they get absolutely crushed by the lines.

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:12.879
<v Speaker 1>The Raiders are the team you want nothing to do with.

0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:16.359
<v Speaker 1>But now you moved on, they're like, hey, wait, we

0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 1>we want to actually date you because you're looking at

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 1>other teams now. The Vikings are always screwing up and apologizing,

0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:26.720
<v Speaker 1>and you always forgive them. The Vikings, they're always again,

0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:29.119
<v Speaker 1>they're just that team. They're like, so sorry, I know

0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.359
<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to meet you. I'm sorry. Won't happen again?

0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:33.800
<v Speaker 1>You forgive them. Of course it happens again. And then

0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:37.879
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a t like the Steelers earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>the year. Yeah, I think the Steelers of that team,

0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 1>they got like a makeover, They got in shape, they

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:45.920
<v Speaker 1>bought some clothes, they got their hair done, Like the Steelers.

0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:47.399
<v Speaker 1>All of some walked in the room one day and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh damn, look at the Steelers because they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're kind of hot right now. Yeah, Steelers are

0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:55.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of hot right now. Yeah. I think Steelers just

0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 1>got a nose job or something and they've had some

0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 1>working there had Okay, that was really good. Do you

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.400
<v Speaker 1>have a team like that? Do you have is there

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 1>one team for you on the betting perspective that you've

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 1>been in a relationship with that it's been rocky. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now that you've thrown out this whole narrative and I'm

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.960
<v Speaker 1>liking it, and I'm following you here. What about the Titans.

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:19.639
<v Speaker 1>They've won five straight and their streak was stopped by

0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:22.280
<v Speaker 1>a strong chiefstand team could just beat them by three

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 1>at home, but then they won two again since that

0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 1>they're looking strong leading their division. And then a home

0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 1>lost by four to since and then what they did

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:34.399
<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia is unacceptable, thirty five to ten loss, a J.

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 1>Brown's revenge game. All of that, so I don't know

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:42.000
<v Speaker 1>what's thet there? You ready? Okay? The Titans were at

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:46.200
<v Speaker 1>the bar, and wow did they look hot. They were

0:23:46.240 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the hot guy the hot girl at the bar. Everyone's

0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 1>eyes are on them. And then it hits two am,

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 1>cancer out lights come on and oh god, whoa, you

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 1>were away hotter when the bar had the lights off.

0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>That's what happened because everyone bet the Titans this week.

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Everyone bet the Titans this week. Everyone took the points

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 1>with the Titan. Then they turned the lights on it

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.239
<v Speaker 1>like that game should have been much more competitive than

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 1>it was. No, you were so right. That is the equivalent. Also,

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.680
<v Speaker 1>anyone who's been in that position, whether it's someone you're

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>talking to, or you're all of a sudden self conscious

0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>about you. That's a horrible moment when the lights turned

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>on in a bar. Listen like, oh my god, and

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the girl. Yeah, these are just I makeup everywhere? Do

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I need? Yeah? Oh it's horrible. Okay, okay. Big story

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:35.560
<v Speaker 1>this week in college football was coach Prime Dion Sanders.

0:24:35.560 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 1>He was named the new head coach at University of Colorado.

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 1>So he turned Jackson State into a winner. Now, he

0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:43.239
<v Speaker 1>said to dot the Pac twelve, try to replicate that

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>in Boulder. I was really surprised by this, just because

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought his coaching career was going to be to

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 1>really help HBCU. Like I thought that was the point

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 1>of bringing his celebrity, all of that to HBCU turn

0:24:57.080 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>a program around shape young men. I didn't think he

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:03.120
<v Speaker 1>was trying to climb the coaching ranks, to be honest,

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think that's what he was getting into it.

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.120
<v Speaker 1>For clearly that is what he's doing, and I think

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 1>it's incredible. I think it's anyone who's a hater of

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:14.199
<v Speaker 1>this move, it's really hypocritical because all we do is

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:18.360
<v Speaker 1>say that blackhead coaches need more opportunities and then he here,

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.200
<v Speaker 1>he is climbing the ranks, taking this power five job,

0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>and I just saw a lot of people being like,

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, how dare he leave? Jackson stayed after after

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:29.800
<v Speaker 1>recruiting all those guys and getting them there. But I'm

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 1>a fan of this move. Go coach Prime. I'm so

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.879
<v Speaker 1>excited to watch Colorado next year. And I actually I

0:25:35.920 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 1>have a speaking gig coming up in January with Dean

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Sanders that was booked like a month ago before this happened,

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 1>So I really hope he still makes it. Yeah, I

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:47.359
<v Speaker 1>think you will, because he's coming. He's he told me

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:50.440
<v Speaker 1>he's coming. We loved his meeting with his new players

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>so much that we thought of a new segment for

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.719
<v Speaker 1>the show, and it's called Audible of the Week. So

0:25:54.880 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and listen to yourself. Know, okay, not to compete,

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>but to win, not to show up, but to show up.

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Not to be amongst the rest, but to be the best.

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh come, I'm flat up coming. This is real. We

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 1>got a few positions already taken care of because I'm

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 1>bringing my luggage with you, and it's Louis. But I

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 1>told him I wanted these kids focus on in FA

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:33.360
<v Speaker 1>or nothing in high are but guess what they told

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 1>they come. I love the line when he says be

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>focused on the NFL, not n I L And that's

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 1>so refreshing. Everything about him so refreshing. Like I think

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>people in this day and age, regardless of industry or whatever,

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 1>people just tiptoe around feelings and everyone has to be

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>like so woke and blah blah. I feel like he's

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 1>like old school. I love in an era to where

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:04.439
<v Speaker 1>we've seen every version of a coach is like Rara

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>speech or introduct We've seen every version of it, have

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 1>not seen this version of it. It was awesome. And look,

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I think he's gonna do great over there.

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I just think I'm a big believer. And I think

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>some people, athletes, actors, reporters, whatever your job is, just

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>need to feel believed in. And I feel like if

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you get coach prime to believe in you, I feel

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the confidence level you'll probably get to

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>do extraordinary things you didn't think you can do. Oh yeah,

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.479
<v Speaker 1>that's a guy you want behind you. Yeah, so I'm

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 1>really excited. So that'll be fun. End of January will

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>come back to this topic. And I'll ask you what

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 1>I should ask him, because I'm like, I'm seeing an

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.360
<v Speaker 1>interview with him on stage or a National Auto Dealers conference.

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm really I'm really exciting. He'll be fascinating. Let's bring

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.119
<v Speaker 1>in our guest. He's a former NFL general manager or

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:02.639
<v Speaker 1>who won three Super Bowl rings during his time in

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>the NFL, and when he's not breaking down film of

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 1>NFL games, he's breaking down actual whole film from the

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Godfather and a good fellas host of the GM Shuffle podcast,

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>which is amazing. By the way, if you haven't listened,

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Michael Lombardi is here again a second appearance. Thank you

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 1>so much for joining, Michael. I appreciate it. Good to

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 1>be here, Jerry, nice to meet you. I'm a big fan.

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy it. It was always a good time to

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>watch that show and kind of live a life we

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 1>all wish we lived. I mean, you know, you're a

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>dream come true right there. That show. Well, I appreciate that.

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been a fan of yours for a while, and

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>also you are someone who's on my list, like I

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>want to have dinner with you because I want to

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 1>like less, I want to talk football, but I'm more

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:44.240
<v Speaker 1>interested to talk. I'm a big Sopranos guy. I I've

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>watched that show ninety seven times through and all the movie.

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I just would love to do movie and show deep

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>dives with you because I love when you do love that.

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I think what makes that show so from from a

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>writing standpoint for me, and I'm not a writer, and

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I have an idea for a show, but I haven't

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>been able to sell it. But I think what makes

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:07.800
<v Speaker 1>that show so unique and so continuous that in our

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>minds is every time he goes to see Dr Melfi,

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>the show can take on a different life. So the

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Therapist Sessions, although somewhat annoying and tedious, they really directed

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the show and she wrote the show. And that's what

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>makes it so much fun to watch because she controlled

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>the narrative of the entire six seasons by her being

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>in that office. And yet yet we don't realize that.

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's kind of fun, and that's what I

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 1>loved about it before we get into some fun football stuff.

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:38.479
<v Speaker 1>Right when I moved to l A, I had an

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>audition for one line on The Sopranos, which was for

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>the Jackie Junior part. No one knowing how much of

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>a big character will become. I had my tickets booked.

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, do I stay in New York for this

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>one one line thing that's going to be nothing? Or

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>moved to l A. And I just went to l

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>A and go on the audition and that part did

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>become the thing, as you remember. So, oh no, sure

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you could have almost drowned three inches ago, like Jackie. Yeah,

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean seriously, he could. I mean that's why the

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>jumble Jor's greatest lines. He's got the napkin on his thing.

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>He said, the kids wig and he said the dumbch

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.280
<v Speaker 1>fuck almost driving the three inches of water. You know,

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>every time I see Jackie Jr. That's all I could

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 1>think about. Yes, agreed, Oh god, you got me. That's

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>an interesting decision there, Jerry. But a good, good backstory.

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>And I want to know the backstory too, because we're

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>just talking off air about the Seahawks tweet with Pete

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Carroll and the entourage and everything, and Jerry, you were

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>saying that there's something more there, and then Michael, I

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>think you have a take as well. Yeah. I mean, look,

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I think Seattle, I said on my podcast all summer,

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and I apologize to Pete Carroll into John Schneiger. I said,

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they could go on vacation though,

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>And Gino Smith was the quarterback, and you know has

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>proved me we're out wrong. I mean, like Gino has

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 1>played really well. I think they actually thought Drew Lock

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.680
<v Speaker 1>would win the job. I mean Gino was accurate, I

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>mean his pocket presence. Yet last weekend was tremendous. He

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>stepped up, he made great brows. They turn the ball over,

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 1>else the game would have been as close. They turned

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>it over twice in the Ram territory. But I think

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>there was this perception that Russell needed to cook. It's

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>always with somebody else's fault in Seattle. You know, it

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>was Daryl Bevil's fault. They fired him. It was Brian

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Schottenheimer's fault. They fire him. They bring Shane Waldron and

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>oh no, he's no good. You know, you gotta let

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Russ cook, you know. And there was a time Russ

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>was cooking at the French laundreef. But slowly Russell became

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the chef of the Hackensack Diner. And now I'm not sure,

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not even sure he's cooking in cafeterias

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>in high school, Like it's just not the same guy.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that relief for Seattle is almost

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>like this giant cloud got lifted off their shoulders. All

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll say is Russell Wilson was in the Entourage movie.

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>At one point he was very close with our show

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>creator Doug Allen, who has since been iced out from

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:51.959
<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson's life, Like they were really close and one

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 1>day I think Russell just they actually talked about on

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>their podcast victory of the Podcast, So I definitely think that, yeah,

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>they had a lot of Russell Wilson connotation to it.

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.479
<v Speaker 1>And of course I was on the Ravens a little bit.

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>In that game he finally scrambled, which I thought was crazy.

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>When the game was on the line, he had a

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>nice run which I don't think we saw all year.

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>We've seen all year long. You know, one thing that

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>happens in sports is a player, but he's a really

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>good player, and then people just think he stays great forever.

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Like everybody just assumes Odell Beckham is gonna come back

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and be O'Dell with the one hand to catch in

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>New York, Like, who does coming off a second a

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.719
<v Speaker 1>c L. He's gonna have a hard time getting up

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>to the level that O'Dell wants played it. Let's just

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>be fair, like he's not gonna play at the highest.

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Chris Godwin. Just last night they were saying

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Brady was saying to the announcers that Godwin is just

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>finally back from his a c L. Right, and he's

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>been practicing football for six months. So like, we just

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>assume a player's great and he's gonna stay great forever.

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think when you watched Russell last year, the

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>lowest run at rushing totally had his group was a

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>hunt at eight three yards. That was last year. He

0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't run last year. There's a reason they don't run

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>quarterback sneak. He doesn't want to run. And when Russell

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>can't make those plays, And Olivia like, I think, you know,

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>being married to a basketball player, you can appreciate this.

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>To me, when I watched Russell, I'm reminded of Allen Iverson.

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Iverson was a little guy who was great. He had

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>an incredible burst to the basket. Nobody could handle his quickness.

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>But when he lost that little bit of quickness and

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 1>lost that burst, he became a little player. I think

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>that's what's happened to Russell. He doesn't have the juice

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>in his lower body, and now all of a sudden,

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>he's you can catch him, he can't escape, and he

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>looks like a little player playing quarterback. Okay, that's interesting.

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to stick with Obi j for a second

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 1>because rumors are as we record this Tuesday, he just

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>wrapped up meetings in Dallas with Jerry Jones, with the

0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>leadership group that includes Dak Prescott, went to a Mavericks

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 1>game with some of the guys. He sounded like it's

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>all but done. Jerry Jones sounded a little bit more trepidacious.

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>What are you hearing? You know? I think to me,

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>nobody's gonna know what the reality of the situation is

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>until they examined the meat. Where is he in his rehab?

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>What does he look like in a workout? You know

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>last night they were talking on the Television's gonna be

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>really expensive to sign Odell? Yeah, it might be, but

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>if he's only if he can pass the physical. One

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>thing I learned in my career in the NFL. The

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>doctors will say he's past the physical, but that doesn't

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>mean he's ready to play at the NFL's highest level.

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 1>That just means he can start rehabing. That just means

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>he can start preparing. We only got five weeks left now.

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>If you're signing him and you think it's gonna help

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:19.919
<v Speaker 1>you in the playoff run, okay, but you're not gonna

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>get as much out of him as you think. It's

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna take time. Look how rusty DeShawn Watson was. It's

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna take time to get back into the flow of

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.879
<v Speaker 1>the game, the physicality of the game, and you're coming

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.800
<v Speaker 1>off a knee injury, a major significant a c L,

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>which is the second one you suffered. I know he's superhuman.

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I know he's a talented player, but I think it's hard.

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Godwin and I want to stick with the

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Bucks because we were joking earlier abol we wonder what

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the ratings of that game were for three and a

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 1>half quarters versus the final five minutes of that game

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>when it just turned into like, oh, Tom Brady is

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.359
<v Speaker 1>doing his thing. I don't know if that's what Tom

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Brady envisioned. We came back, but it's ugly win after

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>ugly win, and uglier loss after uglier loss. I had

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 1>what do you think the Bucks offense like, why have

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>they struggled so much as it was was grunk that

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.359
<v Speaker 1>much of a factor? Is that health of Godwin or

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>all the above. I think if you understand quarterbacks, the

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks are like basketball players. There's certain spots on the

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 1>field that they shoot the ball well from, just like

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>certain spots on the court. Right and Brady wants to

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball in the middle of the field. He

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>saw it last night. Every time he threw a nine rounde.

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>It really wasn't what he wants to do. He wasn't

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.760
<v Speaker 1>accurate with and he missed it. It's just not his strength.

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>His strength is the between the numbers. And when you

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 1>look at his career over his extended time in New England,

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:34.120
<v Speaker 1>he always had a nickel running back, start with Kevin Fall,

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Shane Vereen, James White. He always had tight ends Ben

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Watson Brown, Aaron Hernandez, and he always had a slot

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:45.879
<v Speaker 1>receiver Wes Welker, Danny Amidola, Julian Edelman. He's always had

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.240
<v Speaker 1>three players who could control the middle of the field.

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>He's in Tampa, he doesn't have that. He's got Godwin.

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Everybody keeps wanting to get the ball to Mike Evans,

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>but Mike Evans doesn't run routes that are really complimentary

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to Brady's game, and so to me, it's a design

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 1>problem with their personnel, like they don't have the ability

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to have the guys inside that can win one on

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.839
<v Speaker 1>one routes. And last night they got the biggest break

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:10.959
<v Speaker 1>of all. I mean, if mark Ingram gets the first down,

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>if anybody was a wake for it, if he just

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>gets the first down, They're gonna run two more minutes

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>off the clock, and I don't think Brady's gonna have

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>time to come back down the field to score two touchdowns. Okay,

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>so we now know that Lamar Jackson sprained his PCL.

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 1>He's definitely out this weekend against the Steelers, and it

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe up to three weeks. Look, a lot of people

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:29.840
<v Speaker 1>are saying he should hold out and wait for some

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:32.560
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed money, wait for the Ravens to make a move.

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think the Ravens are dragging their feet

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and what do you think is the best course of

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>action for Lamar? I think that the Shawn Watson contract

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:40.959
<v Speaker 1>really through a loop into it, with the Shawn getting

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>two hundred fifty million dollars guaranteed. Buttoned up the first

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>NFL player in the history of the sport to ever

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>do that. When I was in the league, nobody was

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>getting any buttoned up contracts. It's still until the Sean.

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>When I say buttoned up, that means skill and injury.

0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 1>A lot of players get skill guarantees. They get injury

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>guarantees when you get both the owners that have to

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:02.720
<v Speaker 1>fund them money to the league office in an escrow account,

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>which is really hurts their cash blow no matter how

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>wealthy anyone is. So they've always been able to use

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>this nineteen sixty rule, which was essentially put into place

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>because they want the owners to cheat the players and

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 1>go bankrupt and say, oh, I know we owed you money,

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:18.879
<v Speaker 1>but now we're bankrupt. I mean, the NFL was never

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>this incredible machine that it is today. So that rule

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 1>was put into basically to help the players not get

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>ripped off. That's the rule that stayed intact, and then

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the Browns violated it. They went above and beyond for

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 1>a player that had a lot of off the field

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 1>issues that was suspended. Of all the players to get

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 1>that type of deal, Watson should have been the last one,

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 1>and he did, and the Lamar wants that deal, and

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:43.959
<v Speaker 1>Steve Bashotti came right out after the deal happened and said,

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that's really bad for our game. And I think there's

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the conflict. I think Lamar is they're gonna have to

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.919
<v Speaker 1>pay Lamar. To me, I don't like Baltimore's passing game.

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Even when Lamar was the m v P in the league,

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>their passing game wasn't good enough, and it showed up

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.040
<v Speaker 1>when they played Tennessee in a playoff game. Lamar is

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot like Tom Brady. He wants to throw the

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>ball in the middle of field. That's why Mark Andrews

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:05.879
<v Speaker 1>was so good. When he had Hayden Hurst and Mark

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Andrews inside, they were more dynamic. They keep signing little

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>receivers on the outside, when when you watch Lamar play

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 1>at Louisville and you watch him play in any game,

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:17.839
<v Speaker 1>he's a better inside the number thrower, and so to me,

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what his mindset will be do I

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 1>come back. I know he's a competitor, but to me,

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I think their offense has been broken. Everybody wants Lamar

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 1>to play out of shotgun. I want Lamar to be

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.400
<v Speaker 1>under center. I wanted to take a handoff. I wanted

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:31.320
<v Speaker 1>to roll out. I want them to play bootlegs. I

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 1>want them to be more of a traditional quarterback then

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>this this RPO guy and their offense. Frankly, if they

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>don't run the ball, they can't move the ball. I

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>say on this pot all the time, we know m

0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:45.399
<v Speaker 1>VP is basically a quarterback award, which bothers me. And

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I've listened to you many times on your pod talk

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 1>about like how Tyreek kill even it's just the m

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 1>v P at the very least of the Dolphins, right,

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I've heard you say that. I can't agree more. I'm

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:56.839
<v Speaker 1>finally at the point I'm ready to see it. I'm

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 1>ready to see a non quarterback m v P. I

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>don't think it will ever happen. But in your opinion,

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 1>who do you think if you could take quarterbacks out

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.840
<v Speaker 1>of the equation, who is Michael Lombardi's m v P

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>if it is a non quarterback award. Let's just take

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 1>the first play in the San Francisco game. If you

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>want to understand how great Tyreek kills and how he

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>tilts the field. He motions across the formation. Sheffield's standing

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>on the line, he motions across the formation. Two guys

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.240
<v Speaker 1>run with him. He starts to run down the scene.

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco is so worried about him going down the

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>scene they forget the cover. Sheeft field. He catches an

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>eight yard past for seventy five year a touchdown. The

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>guy tilts the field. I mean he tilts the field.

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.319
<v Speaker 1>He's hard to defend. Coverages have to go to him,

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and even when he's covered, he still makes a play.

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>And he's got insane quickness. I mean, for a guy

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 1>who's as fast as he is, he's got really incredible quickness.

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you could have this conversation about Justin Jefferson.

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, where would Minnesota be without Justin Jefferson. I

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know. These guys are tilting the field in their

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:55.320
<v Speaker 1>favor and they're really helping him. I mean, obviously, Jalen

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Hurts has done a remarkable job and last week proved

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>it against Tennessee that he can throw the foot all.

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>But I'm with you. I think if there's one player

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>outside of the quarterback position, I think it's Jefferson and

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Tyree Hill. I like that Jefferson, especially as you look

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 1>at what the Vikings are doing. They're nine and oh

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>in one score games. They're a scary team to bet,

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>as we are a betting show. When you actually look

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>at what they're going to do in the postseason. What

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:22.320
<v Speaker 1>sticks out to you that's going to make this team,

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, make or break up? You know, they're like

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the TCU of pro football. Nobody does going to Detroit.

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 1>They're a dog this week against Detroit. They're all I

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>do is so I do a power ranking every week

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.759
<v Speaker 1>on my show on Visa, and I do nineteen categories

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 1>of what I think determines the outcome of winning. And

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 1>when you bake down the Vikings and just take the

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:43.879
<v Speaker 1>Jet game last week, I mean, they do the things

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you have to do to win. They played great in

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 1>the red zone, right, they controlled the middle eight. I mean,

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 1>when Sally goes for it on fourth down in his

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 1>own territory, they get three points out of the deal. Now,

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 1>the Jets came back and scored, but those three points

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>that that that Sally ended up giving them end up

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>being the difference in the game because the the Jets

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't manage the middle eight correctly when they had the football.

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:07.160
<v Speaker 1>So to me, the Vikings played really good at red zone.

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>They're really good on third down. Their situational aware. When

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 1>the Jets came back to making a fifteen game and

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 1>they said that momentum seven play drives seventy five yards touchdown.

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 1>They're timely. Their offense is timely. I just think to me,

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the more you win games in the NFL, the more

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>resilient you become. Now, could they lose against Detroit. Absolutely.

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.919
<v Speaker 1>Their defense gives up a ton of yards, but they're

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:32.839
<v Speaker 1>hard to score on, and they're hard to convert third

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 1>downs on at times during the game. In their offense

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>is very talent. I mean the Miami game to me

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>was unbelievable, even though Miami was playing a backup quarterback.

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they had fifteen drives in the game. They

0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 1>punted thirteen times. Minnesota. I wanted to ask you about

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>this too. We do record this Tuesday, so by the

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.240
<v Speaker 1>time this air is Thursday, we may have our answer.

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.800
<v Speaker 1>But as Baker Mayfield is going through the process today

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Tuesday of clearing waivers, is there a situation that you

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>think fits both him and a team and is at

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 1>So he's got a million three of salary coming to him, right,

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>So if you take him on, you take on that salary.

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 1>So for the for the forty Niners to take him on,

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>they're saying he's an insurance policy. Would they do that?

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I mean, if you watch Baker

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>play this year, he did not pay, has not played well.

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 1>He did not play like the first pick overall in

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the draft. He missed open receivers. He didn't really have

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>a great sense of timing. Whether it's Carolina's offense or him.

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:26.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure you know the Texans if they claimed them,

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 1>they could sign him. He won't know their offense. It

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 1>may take a week or two to get him up

0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>to speed, and then he's a free agent at the

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 1>end of the year, so he automatically you don't have

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>him for next year. Would the Rams sign him? Considering

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Matthew Stafford's back problems and I think Matthew Stafford considering

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 1>retirement again, the Rams would give up a million three

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 1>of cap room something they don't have to sign a

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:49.520
<v Speaker 1>quarterback that probably isn't going to play right away for them,

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and then they lose cap room for next season, so

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 1>and then not have him under contract. I think he

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.760
<v Speaker 1>clears the waiver wire. I would be surprised unless Houston

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:00.359
<v Speaker 1>claimed him. I mean, look, Houston's a disaster there. I mean,

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>they're not very good. They've gotten worse this year than

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>they were last year. You know, and I know that,

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 1>you know it's another first year head coach. But I

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 1>mean in eight years that Love Smith has been a

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>head coach too in Tampa, five in Illinois, and then

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>this year at seventy three and one, I mean, he

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been able to fix it as a head coach.

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:20.319
<v Speaker 1>And you have to imagine Houston is gonna be going

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:23.399
<v Speaker 1>quarterback and they're gonna be having Baker's old old team's pick,

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 1>so they're gonna have a lot of options at the

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 1>QB spot in the draft. So I want to go

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 1>to New York for a second. I didn't want to

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:31.880
<v Speaker 1>do this to you, but I gotta get some giant

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff in there. I'm struggling with the Giants in the

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>sense of I'm obviously thrilled with the way the season

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 1>is going. I'm thrilled with coach Stable and say Kwan

0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 1>and all that, but basically the long term plans and

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 1>the contracts going forward, Daniel Jones is mr Like, we

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 1>need to see you need to prove it. But how

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 1>could you judge him when your number one receivers Darius Layton,

0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 1>who dropped the biggest play of the game that would

0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:57.640
<v Speaker 1>have iced the game versus the Commanders. I'm basically asking

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 1>you about Daniel Jones and Sa Kwan going forward, Well,

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>how do you handle that giant situation? Well, I mean,

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I think they've done a great job of managing Daniel Jones, right,

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 1>So they basically said, look, we're gonna run a six

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:09.800
<v Speaker 1>back offense. We're gonna use Daniel Jones in the in

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:12.279
<v Speaker 1>the running game a little bit offset that, we're gonna

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>try to throw a lot of short passes so we

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of completions, and we're gonna try to

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>convert as many third downs as we can and slow

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 1>the game down. We're not very talented, and I think

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 1>they've Daniel Jones in this system has played well. The

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 1>problem is how much do you pay him in this system?

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you pay him thirty five over two? Do you

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 1>pay him forty over two? That gets the sixty over two?

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Is he's worth that? He's not winning any games, So

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.719
<v Speaker 1>that's a hard decision. S Quan is not as hard.

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 1>The question is how much do you want to pay

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 1>a running back. I think that's really the issue, and

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 1>they've got so many needs. I think what Brian has

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>done for the Giants, he's come up with a formula

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 1>for them to win. They're well coached offensively, they're well

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 1>coached defensively. They typically play well in the red zone

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>against you know, like Houston. They had a chance to

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 1>lose against Houston, but they played so well in the

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 1>red zone. They didn't Detroit, they didn't play well in

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the red zone. So their formula is really why they're winning.

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>And if they break that formula, you're not gonna win.

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>And so to me, that tells you there's a value

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>for Daniel Jones, but it isn't at a normal quarterback rate.

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna come down to that. I think

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>they've got to improve at the quarterback position to get

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:16.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody who they feel like they can put more of

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the game on him. Whereas right now they're managing Daniel

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Jones real quick, because we'll sticking New York for one

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 1>more second. Because I love hating on my Jet fan friends.

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:30.359
<v Speaker 1>But uh, that's yes, Like you know, I'm looking at

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I call him a kid because I'm forty three. He's

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:34.360
<v Speaker 1>not a kid, he's a he's a young man. Zach Wilson,

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I get it. He has not and he's out of

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 1>a job, out of a job, like is he out

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 1>of a job for the Jets in general or you know,

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:45.839
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know what his future is And can

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 1>it be just that press conference that did him in

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and the team's wearing Mike f and White T shirts

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 1>getting on the plane. That's as bad as I've seen

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:55.880
<v Speaker 1>it in a while. I don't think it was the

0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>press conference. I think his interaction with the team. If

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:00.760
<v Speaker 1>you watch the games, you could tell it's Kyler Murray's

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>interaction with his teammates. I mean, they can all talk that.

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:06.000
<v Speaker 1>You know they love him as a teammate. Watch the interactions,

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know you can feel it, you can

0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 1>see it. It's just like Tyler Herneke. You know he's

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:12.760
<v Speaker 1>not the best player for watching him, but the players

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:14.879
<v Speaker 1>gravitate to him. They like him, you know, they really

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 1>believe in him. And I think it's the same thing

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>with Mike White. They believe in him. He's not the

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:21.600
<v Speaker 1>best player. If you watched Mike White workout and Zach workout,

0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you would say Zack's the better player. But Zack doesn't

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 1>really build any confidence with his teammates. He's a little

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>aloof He's not very mature. His mind seems to be

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:32.760
<v Speaker 1>other places, and he's not taking the game as serious

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 1>as he needs to take it. He hasn't grown up.

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:36.960
<v Speaker 1>It happens to a lot of guys that are second

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>pick in the draft, third pick in the draft. You know,

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Smith was this way when he came out. He wasn't

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 1>really mature enough to handle the situation. And over time

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>he's now become a talented player and more mature. I

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:50.319
<v Speaker 1>think that's the problem. I mean, Zack's got two more

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:53.040
<v Speaker 1>years of highly guaranteed money. They got to try to

0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 1>rehabilitate him. I don't know if they can, because his

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.719
<v Speaker 1>personality isn't endearing to his teammates. When you used to

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:01.879
<v Speaker 1>go into the Patriots Kich cafeteria, Brady would be sitting

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 1>there with the offensive lineman. Garoppolo would be sitting there

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:06.279
<v Speaker 1>with the There was a bot you could tell the

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 1>players like the quarterback. And then when Brady got got suspended,

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:13.640
<v Speaker 1>everybody wanted to lift up Garoppolo and move forward. There's

0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 1>a bond that has to be creative with the quarterback,

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:18.760
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't have to be necessarily the best player

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:20.439
<v Speaker 1>on the team. He's gonna be able to players gotta

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 1>believe them, and I think Heineke leads them. I think

0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 1>White will lead them. I think that's the key, and

0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the bigger issue. Speaking of Garoppolo, that

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 1>is something you always here with him, that he's a

0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:32.799
<v Speaker 1>well liked guy. He's the type of guy you want

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 1>to go grab a beer with like that has gone

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.239
<v Speaker 1>a long way in this league. It's amazing that the

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 1>layman would believe that. But looking at what San Francisco

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 1>has to deal with now, do you think and to

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:45.080
<v Speaker 1>bring up the Baker Mayfield part of it again, by

0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.359
<v Speaker 1>skipping any affiliation with Baker, does that say more about

0:47:48.360 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 1>their trust in brock Purty or more of their disinterest

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 1>in bringing in another quarterback besides who they just got

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:57.240
<v Speaker 1>as a veteran backup. Well, I think they've watched Baker

0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and he wasn't very good. I mean, brock Purty played

0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 1>better in that game on Sunday Baker for the six

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:04.680
<v Speaker 1>games in Carolina. That's just a fact. And I think this,

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I think you gotta go with what you have. When

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady got hurt in New England. Belichick had two

0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:12.400
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks coming in that day for a workout on Monday,

0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:15.319
<v Speaker 1>just for his emergency list, and they sent him home.

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 1>They sent him home. They work either quarterback out because

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:20.759
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to show mac Castle they had confidence in him.

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's what they want to do

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 1>with Party or Josh Downson. This has happened before in

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:27.840
<v Speaker 1>the national football and we just have short memories and

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 1>we get caught up in Oh, we gotta score, we

0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 1>gotta have offense. Right. The seventy two Miami dolphense Bob

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Greasy gets tackled by Deacon Jones in Game five, breaks

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 1>his ankle, and he's out for a while. Earl Morrow

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 1>comes off the bench and leads them to the playoffs

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 1>in an undefeated season. I mean in Hosteddler takes over

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 1>for Bill Sims and leads them. I mean, go back

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:48.360
<v Speaker 1>to Trent Dilford. I mean there were three games at

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the Baltomore Ravens played in two thousand. They scored fifteen

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>points total, right, and yet they were able to figure

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 1>it out and Dilford was able to make enough plays

0:48:56.560 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and their defense was great. The forty Niners defense can

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:01.879
<v Speaker 1>be great. There's teams can be really good. They can

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>still win games. Now he can't come in there and

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:06.759
<v Speaker 1>make mistakes. Go back to the playoffs when they went

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:08.920
<v Speaker 1>to the Super Bowl. I think he threw it seventeen

0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 1>eighteen times against Minnesota and then eleven times against Green Bay.

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:15.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean they won those two playoff games before they

0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 1>played the Chiefs with their defense, their kicking game, and

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:20.680
<v Speaker 1>their ability to run it. I think there's something interesting

0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:23.439
<v Speaker 1>happening in the NFL that I'm a big NBA guy.

0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I know you. I've heard you talk some hoops to

0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 1>always comment on like who would you rather be? The

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:30.960
<v Speaker 1>lakers of the Pelicans meeting, Like you got your bubble championship,

0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:33.439
<v Speaker 1>but now you have no picks and the Pelicans look

0:49:33.520 --> 0:49:35.240
<v Speaker 1>like they have a great future to have all your picks.

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:38.879
<v Speaker 1>That's starting to happen where teams have gotten off their

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:42.400
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks who are vets who can maybe still win. They

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:44.520
<v Speaker 1>give up a ton of first round picks. So if

0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:46.239
<v Speaker 1>you look at the Broncos and the Rams, who both

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 1>give up their first round picks, they're gonna be pretty high.

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 1>Which team out of the Broncos are Rams? Do you

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 1>think sort of in the worst shape for the future

0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:56.879
<v Speaker 1>because things don't look bright without that first round pick.

0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Off of the way they played this year, well, the

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Broncos said the better team. They just haven't gotten a

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:03.800
<v Speaker 1>good quarterback. They've always been a good team without a quarterback.

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:06.680
<v Speaker 1>The Rams have always been a very talented team with

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:10.040
<v Speaker 1>five or six talented players, and when once they got hurt,

0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 1>they are not a very good team. That kind of

0:50:11.600 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 1>fell apart. I don't know where Sean McVeigh is gonna be.

0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Does he want to come back and coach her and

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:19.759
<v Speaker 1>really take part in a reconstruction project which is gonna

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:22.320
<v Speaker 1>take some time. If Matthew Stafford decides to walk away

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:24.439
<v Speaker 1>from the game, I think that's a hard one. Look,

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:26.400
<v Speaker 1>they went all in. They deserve it, they got it.

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:28.279
<v Speaker 1>They were fortunate. You know, there was a couple of

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:30.359
<v Speaker 1>things that went really well for them. I mean, think

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.799
<v Speaker 1>about the Tampa game down there and Tampa. You know,

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Tampa ties the game up and then they convert that

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:37.399
<v Speaker 1>third down, they kicked the field goal to win the game.

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:39.919
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, they play San Francisco the next week.

0:50:39.960 --> 0:50:42.799
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco drops it interception, they win that game. They

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:45.480
<v Speaker 1>play the Super Bowl third and ten from their own

0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 1>fourteen yard line. The false start, nobody calls it, Cooper

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Cup gets called for, they called for legal and next thing,

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then they don't get it into I

0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 1>mean they a lot went right, they deserve to win

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>it great, but it's gonna be a long haul. Denver

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:00.360
<v Speaker 1>to me is the problem is when gonna do a

0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Russell like. Somebody's gonna have to have a man and

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 1>man conversation with Russell and say, hey, Russell, you know

0:51:05.040 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you're not the guy. And they had this with Iverson

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and iver said what did he say? Said, Look, when's

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 1>the last time an m d P comes off the bench? Well, Alan,

0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 1>you're not an m VP anymore, Russell, You're not the

0:51:14.080 --> 0:51:16.319
<v Speaker 1>same guy you were anymore. So that's gonna be a

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 1>hard conversation to have. You know, this whole notion that

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you know you can win in that you can rebuild

0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:22.840
<v Speaker 1>your team quicker in the NFL than you can in

0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the NBA because it's more of a team, it's more

0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:28.480
<v Speaker 1>than just one player. But someone is getting fired in Denver,

0:51:28.840 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 1>so it's not a very desirable head coaching job. I

0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 1>don't think a guy like Sean Payton would want to

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:36.879
<v Speaker 1>comment and take that job. What does Denver do there? Well,

0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a hard one because George Peyton, the

0:51:38.880 --> 0:51:41.120
<v Speaker 1>guy picked the coach, and he picked the quarterback. And

0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 1>not only did he pick the quarterback, he game two

0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 1>or fifty million, and those are that's three stops and

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:48.840
<v Speaker 1>you know you're stuck. None of this the owner approved

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 1>any of it. The new owner just walks in and said,

0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:52.760
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, these are your three decisions, and I'm judge.

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I gotta judge you on that. That's a hard thing

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:56.840
<v Speaker 1>to do because if when you have that much authority,

0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of guys, including me, we've never had

0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that much authority in the league. You know, you can

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 1>have the title GM, but you don't have the authority

0:52:03.120 --> 0:52:05.560
<v Speaker 1>to do what George had the authority to do in

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:08.320
<v Speaker 1>those situations. And you're gonna have to pay the price

0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:10.759
<v Speaker 1>for it if eventually that's a hard job. I think

0:52:10.800 --> 0:52:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Denver is gonna have to really sit down and figure

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:15.360
<v Speaker 1>out what they're doing with Russell before they can start

0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:18.600
<v Speaker 1>talking to anything else about their organization and Los Angeles.

0:52:18.680 --> 0:52:20.879
<v Speaker 1>To me, it really comes down to the Sean want

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to take part in this rebuilding process or is he

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 1>going to go to Amazon? Where is he going to

0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:27.200
<v Speaker 1>go to some other TV platform? I know he redid

0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:29.680
<v Speaker 1>his contract, but when you don't have a quarterback in

0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:31.440
<v Speaker 1>the NFL and you don't have any assets to get

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback, trust me, that's a hard drive to the

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>stadium Sunday morning. Look, I've realized to also having that

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:41.320
<v Speaker 1>coach in place, finally having one, I think with coach

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:43.440
<v Speaker 1>table with the Giants. But do you think we see

0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Peyton returned to the sidelines somewhere? Was it not? The

0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 1>job is not quite there yet for him. I get

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:52.840
<v Speaker 1>that Amazon money. I think that if Sean had a

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:55.439
<v Speaker 1>chance to get through a great quarterback, like if say

0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:58.600
<v Speaker 1>something happened with the Charge. You know, the Chargers just

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:00.359
<v Speaker 1>are not very good defense. They have been. I mean

0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Brennan Staley is a defense coordinator and their defense has

0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:04.759
<v Speaker 1>really not been very good in two years that he's

0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:07.280
<v Speaker 1>been there. So that's a concern. I mean, they're wasting

0:53:07.800 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Herbert's great season's here now. I know him, like Williams

0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:13.000
<v Speaker 1>is hurt and Keenan Allen is not the same. But

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:15.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is really a talented player and they

0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:17.360
<v Speaker 1>should be better than six and six, which is what

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:19.520
<v Speaker 1>they are. I think a lot of that. Anytime a

0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:21.320
<v Speaker 1>guy wants to come back in the league, he wants

0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 1>to go somewhere where he has a chance to get

0:53:23.200 --> 0:53:26.040
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback. Right. You know, Peterson comes back, He's got

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Trevor Lawrence justin Herbert's sitting there waiting for you if

0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:31.879
<v Speaker 1>that job opens up. But if you go to Carolina,

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:34.479
<v Speaker 1>who's our quarterback? I mean, Matt rules at the breast

0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:36.600
<v Speaker 1>because he couldn't fix the quarterback problem. I got a

0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:38.040
<v Speaker 1>good one for you, and this is the last one

0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:41.440
<v Speaker 1>for me. Do you think there's any credibility in the

0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:44.160
<v Speaker 1>rumors that Tom Brady might go back to New England.

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I would never put anything past that.

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look Tom, when you watch Tom throw and

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:53.400
<v Speaker 1>you watch him play, he doesn't look forty five, and

0:53:53.680 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 1>he still seems to have the same competitive nature. I mean, look,

0:53:57.640 --> 0:54:01.359
<v Speaker 1>he's addicted to the process. He's addicted to winning. See

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:03.520
<v Speaker 1>all of us that have been under that program when

0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I was in Cleveland with Bill and then New England,

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:08.719
<v Speaker 1>we are products of that system, and it's hard for

0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 1>us to look outside of other systems and feel comfortable.

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 1>And I know how Brady feels. I mean, he's in

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 1>a different system. That's not something he's comfortable with in

0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:20.000
<v Speaker 1>terms of adjustments, how we practice, how we play, all

0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:24.000
<v Speaker 1>those things. You become institutionalized when you're around that program,

0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:26.279
<v Speaker 1>and it's how you see the game. It's how I

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:28.959
<v Speaker 1>see the game. And so I would never put anything

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:30.919
<v Speaker 1>pass him. I think he wants that. I think that's

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>something he wants and needs. Were you in Cleveland when

0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Nick Saban was defensive coordinator? You know what sure was? Yeah? Absolutely? Yeah?

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:39.839
<v Speaker 1>How how was he there the first day? You can

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 1>tell he was gonna be a head coach. Now he

0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:43.040
<v Speaker 1>just came from Toledo where he was the head coach

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 1>of Toledo. Nick had such a commanding presence and a

0:54:46.280 --> 0:54:49.920
<v Speaker 1>knowledge and the ability to focus and have strategy. You

0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:52.719
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people think yelling is you know,

0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:55.840
<v Speaker 1>is something coaches do. Nick can be demanding, but he

0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 1>also is really smart and he could adjust the game

0:54:58.640 --> 0:55:01.240
<v Speaker 1>and he understood how to play the game different based

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 1>on the opponent. You knew it instantly. That's why he's

0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:06.319
<v Speaker 1>at Alabama. Ozzy Knwson was with us there too, as

0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:08.439
<v Speaker 1>he saw it, and so when he had a chance

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:10.080
<v Speaker 1>to get him to go to Alabama, as he wasn't

0:55:10.080 --> 0:55:12.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna waste that time. He's scary as hell to interview.

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you that my least favorite coach interview. You

0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:18.440
<v Speaker 1>got to ask the right It's like Belichick. If you

0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:20.960
<v Speaker 1>ask the good questions, you're gonna get good answers. If

0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you throw used to say at the scouts all the

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:24.839
<v Speaker 1>time of the draft room. If you start dangling stuff

0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:26.560
<v Speaker 1>out there to him, he's gonna just smack it out.

0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:29.040
<v Speaker 1>You know you gotta throw fastballs against him. You gotta

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:32.640
<v Speaker 1>throw good heat. Guys got stressed thinking about asking a

0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:35.799
<v Speaker 1>question to any of them? We'll let you go. But

0:55:35.840 --> 0:55:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I know you've got a new book coming out next year,

0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:40.440
<v Speaker 1>which I am excited for. Can you tell our listeners

0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 1>just anything about it? Because I know what it's about.

0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.319
<v Speaker 1>I've heard you talk about it before, but something for

0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:48.480
<v Speaker 1>our listeners, Well, thank you, I appreciate it. It's called

0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:50.520
<v Speaker 1>football done right. So what I've tried to do is

0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:54.320
<v Speaker 1>basically go over the coaching trees in the NFL, grade

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the coaches in the NFL, the seventeen men that have

0:55:57.480 --> 0:56:01.680
<v Speaker 1>been coaches, and try to put some understanding around, maybe

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:04.920
<v Speaker 1>some injustice. Marty Schottenheimer is one of nine coaches in

0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the NFL with one two hundred games. He can't even

0:56:07.200 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 1>get up for a Hall of Fame vote because well,

0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:11.240
<v Speaker 1>he didn't win a big game. He's won two hundred games.

0:56:11.719 --> 0:56:14.959
<v Speaker 1>Only nine men out of seventeen one two hundred games.

0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:16.600
<v Speaker 1>The guy deserves to get in the Hall of Fame.

0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:19.360
<v Speaker 1>So we talked about that. We talked about the impact

0:56:19.360 --> 0:56:23.200
<v Speaker 1>of the draft, television, and trades. Talk a lot about

0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the trades and how trades come down. And then I

0:56:25.160 --> 0:56:28.160
<v Speaker 1>grade the top one hundred players. According to me, over all,

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the eras from one to a hundred, So it's kind

0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:33.480
<v Speaker 1>of a comprehensive book. It was really a pleasure to

0:56:33.520 --> 0:56:35.759
<v Speaker 1>write because I studied a lot about the game. I

0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:37.920
<v Speaker 1>got to watch a lot of the great players and

0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:40.640
<v Speaker 1>see the players Like when I watched GAYL Sayers, I thought,

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Jesus looks like Tony Pollard to me. You know, there's

0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 1>so many similarities. And now when I watched the game,

0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:48.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, when I watched pro football with this six

0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:51.400
<v Speaker 1>pack attack, I think I'm watching some of the single

0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:53.520
<v Speaker 1>wing stuff that was going on before we started to

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:56.120
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball by the by when Clark Shaughnessy decided

0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:59.319
<v Speaker 1>to put the forward pass into pro football. Well, it's

0:56:59.320 --> 0:57:01.359
<v Speaker 1>always a pleasure having you on. Do you remember who

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you nicknamed the mayor of munchkin Land on our podcast

0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:10.360
<v Speaker 1>last time? Well, I know it's it's my man. I mean,

0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:13.200
<v Speaker 1>look one thing, Buddy Ryan had this great line, He's

0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 1>buddy Ryan said, there's a place in football for the

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 1>little man. It's just not in front of the big man.

0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And I still, oh man, I had to remind you that.

0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for being on. You can follow Michael

0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:27.280
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter at m Lombardi NFL, and of course listen

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:30.040
<v Speaker 1>to him every week on the GM Shuffle Pod. Michael Lombardi,

0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:33.080
<v Speaker 1>thank you for being here. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate ye, Darry, There's nothing like hearing that opening track.

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I've am when I'm up with my baby and we

0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:04.600
<v Speaker 1>binge a bunch of entourage before the sun comes up.

0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what we did this morning. So I'm

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:10.840
<v Speaker 1>about four episodes into season five. I am loving it

0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:14.360
<v Speaker 1>and you, I know, really enjoyed making this season. Why

0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:16.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I've given too much away because I

0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:19.280
<v Speaker 1>sometimes send the spoil things for you. Yes you do,

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes you do, I will say with season five, and

0:58:22.120 --> 0:58:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I love so much. It really shows you the path

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:29.800
<v Speaker 1>for an actor of maintenance that it takes to keep

0:58:29.800 --> 0:58:31.959
<v Speaker 1>a career going. All I'll say is like the Vince

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:36.240
<v Speaker 1>character does get tested in season five, and you really

0:58:36.320 --> 0:58:39.320
<v Speaker 1>just see what it takes to keep a career going

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:42.120
<v Speaker 1>because he's at such a high and then you meet him.

0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 1>He's at such a low in the season five, So

0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:46.400
<v Speaker 1>can we build him back up? You have a lot

0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:49.280
<v Speaker 1>of fun. This is my second favorite season. Season two

0:58:49.320 --> 0:58:52.120
<v Speaker 1>is number one because we started really figuring it out,

0:58:52.160 --> 0:58:54.959
<v Speaker 1>and then this season is my second favorite. I'm loving

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 1>it so far too. I cannot believe how far Vince

0:58:57.440 --> 0:59:00.160
<v Speaker 1>has fallen. He's bankrupt, where I'm in, Where I'm the

0:59:00.160 --> 0:59:02.920
<v Speaker 1>show he does the Sweet sixteen. The first episode of

0:59:02.960 --> 0:59:06.120
<v Speaker 1>season five is Fantasy Island. Where did you guys actually

0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:08.720
<v Speaker 1>go to shoot that? They say vaguely it's in Mexico. Yeah,

0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:11.400
<v Speaker 1>it was not in Mexico. It was actually in Hawaii

0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:16.360
<v Speaker 1>sou which yeah, and looked at It's amazing trip to

0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:18.680
<v Speaker 1>go out there. As you saw in the episode, the

0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Turtle character and the Vince character are hiding out there,

0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:23.640
<v Speaker 1>and then Ari and E and drama take a little

0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:25.480
<v Speaker 1>sea playing in to come get him because he has

0:59:25.520 --> 0:59:28.360
<v Speaker 1>like a job offer. So what was cool about that?

0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:31.120
<v Speaker 1>We saw the whole jet ski thing that we did,

0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and there was even a moment where you saw it

0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:35.200
<v Speaker 1>like these whales that was all real. We were shooting.

0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:37.560
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, we had walkie talkies on the

0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:39.800
<v Speaker 1>jet skis, so the guys in the boat were like,

0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:42.120
<v Speaker 1>cut off your engine, cut off your engine. So we stop.

0:59:42.160 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Our engine almost flipped us over the jet skis and

0:59:45.080 --> 0:59:47.800
<v Speaker 1>these whales just started coming out from the water and

0:59:47.800 --> 0:59:50.760
<v Speaker 1>they were like swimming alongside us. You have to legally,

0:59:50.800 --> 0:59:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I think, shut your engines off when they're there. But

0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:56.080
<v Speaker 1>we went right from that scene on the jet skis.

0:59:56.120 --> 0:59:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I think I showered in like a porter potty in

0:59:58.440 --> 1:00:00.960
<v Speaker 1>the trailer. We went right to the flight back down.

1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:03.760
<v Speaker 1>We're shooting in l A like the next day, but

1:00:04.680 --> 1:00:07.040
<v Speaker 1>a long flight too from l A. But that was

1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that was a lot of fun to shoot. Now. I

1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:12.560
<v Speaker 1>know you always do these trips like in forty eight

1:00:12.560 --> 1:00:15.000
<v Speaker 1>hours or whatever, like especially the can trip. I cannot

1:00:15.000 --> 1:00:17.080
<v Speaker 1>believe how quickly you guys were there, But how long

1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:21.400
<v Speaker 1>were you in Hawaii? I think Hawaii was all in all,

1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it was like four days, but it was

1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:26.800
<v Speaker 1>only two days. For I mentioned like ri e E

1:00:26.960 --> 1:00:29.240
<v Speaker 1>and Drama flying, they're only in like a bit of

1:00:29.280 --> 1:00:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. And then Adrian and I were left there

1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:34.040
<v Speaker 1>for the extra two days, which was kind of nice

1:00:34.080 --> 1:00:36.280
<v Speaker 1>because we'd work a little bit. I got to play

1:00:36.280 --> 1:00:37.880
<v Speaker 1>some golf. I was like, I think that was my

1:00:37.960 --> 1:00:41.320
<v Speaker 1>first time in Hawaii too, So yeah, I got to

1:00:41.320 --> 1:00:43.120
<v Speaker 1>grow a beard because we're supposed to. That's where I

1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:45.360
<v Speaker 1>really started getting a beard growing out and the hair

1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:48.680
<v Speaker 1>because uh, we were supposed to be on the run. Okay.

1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I haven't gotten a chance to ask you about all

1:00:50.840 --> 1:00:54.160
<v Speaker 1>of your co stars very much, but since this episode

1:00:54.240 --> 1:00:55.880
<v Speaker 1>is you and Vince a lot, tell me about what

1:00:55.920 --> 1:00:57.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like working with Adrian, and especially as you've got

1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:00.120
<v Speaker 1>a couple of days, Like really, just you guys to

1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:04.080
<v Speaker 1>hang out in Hawaii. Adrian's the best I I He's family.

1:01:04.160 --> 1:01:06.960
<v Speaker 1>All those guys are family. Adrian was always interesting because

1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:09.880
<v Speaker 1>he would always tell us, you know, I was an

1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:12.480
<v Speaker 1>only child. I didn't have brothers or sisters, so you

1:01:12.520 --> 1:01:15.400
<v Speaker 1>guys are the closest thing to brothers I have, and

1:01:15.560 --> 1:01:18.360
<v Speaker 1>all the rest of us all have siblings, so and

1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Adrian was raised by amazing single mother. Stuff like that.

1:01:21.880 --> 1:01:24.200
<v Speaker 1>The joke with Adrian, I think the first or second

1:01:24.240 --> 1:01:26.400
<v Speaker 1>year of the show, we gave out an award at

1:01:26.440 --> 1:01:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the Space. Adrian at the time, maybe he's watched sports

1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:32.760
<v Speaker 1>a little more now knew nothing. Nothing. I say nothing

1:01:32.800 --> 1:01:36.720
<v Speaker 1>about sports, nothing zero. We're on the red carpet at

1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the ASPS. We're doing some interviews and someone asks Adrian

1:01:40.320 --> 1:01:43.080
<v Speaker 1>about like the Yankees and who his favorite Yankee is,

1:01:43.600 --> 1:01:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, oh, he didn't even know Jeter. He

1:01:45.880 --> 1:01:47.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't even think to say Jeter at the time. It's

1:01:47.680 --> 1:01:50.160
<v Speaker 1>fifteen years ago. I just walked by and you could

1:01:50.160 --> 1:01:53.560
<v Speaker 1>see it in the clip. I go Matsum. He's like,

1:01:53.960 --> 1:01:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I love you know, Deckie Matsumi. So I claim Adrian's

1:01:58.280 --> 1:02:01.040
<v Speaker 1>favorite baseball player of all time that I fed him

1:02:01.160 --> 1:02:04.400
<v Speaker 1>on the red carpet at the SPS. Okay, that is

1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:06.280
<v Speaker 1>a good story. I was saying you off air, and

1:02:06.280 --> 1:02:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I want people to tweet at us if they'd be

1:02:08.080 --> 1:02:09.880
<v Speaker 1>interested in this. But I think we should do one

1:02:09.960 --> 1:02:13.680
<v Speaker 1>whole Entourage episode and have on as many of your

1:02:13.720 --> 1:02:17.960
<v Speaker 1>peeps one episode and asked them about their favorite sports stories.

1:02:18.040 --> 1:02:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Sports fandom everything. So if you like that idea, tweet

1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:24.160
<v Speaker 1>at us. We'll run it by our producer and our bosses, absolutely,

1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:26.240
<v Speaker 1>and then yes, we'll have them on. And then you

1:02:26.480 --> 1:02:29.680
<v Speaker 1>for sure have to go on the Victory podcast with

1:02:29.760 --> 1:02:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Dylan Connelly and Doug Allen because they're recapping them in detail.

1:02:33.600 --> 1:02:35.400
<v Speaker 1>So you'd be a great guest because you're watching in

1:02:35.440 --> 1:02:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the moment, right, very fresh, very fresh. One more question.

1:02:39.200 --> 1:02:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Tony Bennetts in an episode, and I mean, what a

1:02:42.320 --> 1:02:44.160
<v Speaker 1>legend and what was it like shooting with him? Do

1:02:44.200 --> 1:02:46.200
<v Speaker 1>you have any funny off off camera story with him?

1:02:46.360 --> 1:02:48.720
<v Speaker 1>It was amazing. I'm a Tony benefit and my mom's

1:02:48.760 --> 1:02:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the biggest Tony benefit and ever the only story I

1:02:51.600 --> 1:02:54.600
<v Speaker 1>really remember. I don't think he was too great with

1:02:54.680 --> 1:02:56.960
<v Speaker 1>some of the language, Like you know, he'd shoot his

1:02:57.000 --> 1:02:59.000
<v Speaker 1>scene and then he's in the background of ours and

1:02:59.000 --> 1:03:02.120
<v Speaker 1>then my characters like the fun girls here drama. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can always feel him be like, ah, these kids

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<v Speaker 1>in the cursing, why they got a curse. But that

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<v Speaker 1>he even says that on the show, right, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's where that came up from. I think, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that right. I think he even said like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like off camera. I've enjoyed the show You guys curse

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, though, so I think that's where that came from.

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<v Speaker 1>He just was a class act the whole way around

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<v Speaker 1>him and Layton Meester got to do some cool scenes

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<v Speaker 1>on that stage where they're singing together. And then also

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<v Speaker 1>Layton Mester, was this like peak gossip girl fame as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Like she was a big deal in the middle of Yes, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, Layton did. She was in like episode two

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<v Speaker 1>I think of Entourage, and then a few episodes here

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<v Speaker 1>are there, And yeah, this was all time, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I remember because it was we had to work around

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<v Speaker 1>scheduling and stuff like that with her. She was always cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time we called and asked her to come back,

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<v Speaker 1>very very busy woman at the time, she always came

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<v Speaker 1>back and and hung with us. So, yeah, she's filly.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh got his Entourage? O G. Did you have Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Bennett signed anything for your mom or call her or

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<v Speaker 1>do anything? You know? I didn't, and I should have

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<v Speaker 1>because my mom's maybe the last person on earth who

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<v Speaker 1>loves and autographs still who asks for autographs anymore. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about the selfie and the picture my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>If you asked her, would you rather like a selfie

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<v Speaker 1>with Tony Bennett or his signature? She would pick signature

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. She still values the autograph as a thing

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<v Speaker 1>of memorabilia. So no, I I didn't and I should have.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've I've always had a philosophy with the cameos

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff we've had. I I'm obviously cool and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to them and but I try to give them their

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<v Speaker 1>space and not nerd out. But Tony Bennett was a

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<v Speaker 1>tough one. Not to nerd out with Tom Brady. You

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<v Speaker 1>said he's coming up. You didn't ask for anything with him? No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do think our crew asked for had conveniently

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<v Speaker 1>had some footballs and stuff. And to to Tom Brady's credit,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get to that episode, he was so patient

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<v Speaker 1>and signed everything and he was I swear that he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need any more love of that I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>give it. He was so cool the one day he worked.

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<v Speaker 1>He was unbelievable with us and the crew and everyone. Okay, good, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I have plenty of early mornings ahead of me that

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<v Speaker 1>I will continue to watch and get to that episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. I'll end with back in the day when

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<v Speaker 1>it was airing. Most college kids were coming home at

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<v Speaker 1>five am watching Entourage. You are waking up at five

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<v Speaker 1>am with your baby watching Entourage. My how times have changed?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes they have, but I'm loving It's good. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for one of my favorite parts of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>He's back. He might be in the green. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We got total some things up bet MGMs betting analyst

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Andrew, Welcome back, Peter. See now this crazy awful

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<v Speaker 1>parlay I did two weeks ago starting to make more

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<v Speaker 1>sense because now we're in the green. We we're trending

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<v Speaker 1>in the right direction. Here, we're power rankings. I went

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<v Speaker 1>from ten to like probably teetering in the top five.

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<v Speaker 1>There's how many there's only ten teams, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't talk about how many teams there were. But

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<v Speaker 1>let me get a little bit of energy and excitement here. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you did that that every favorite parlay that got you going.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you also were the I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>many people were rooting for the tie in the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>Commander's Game. You were one of them because you had

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<v Speaker 1>what under forty and a half? Right, So yeah, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Sweat out that one is right, and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty third team with like six minutes left in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarter. I was like, there's no shot this hits.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure enough, it hits, So yeah, I was rooting for

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<v Speaker 1>the under miss field goal at the end by the Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>so we hit on that for a couple of units.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was a three unit player right there,

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins Niners. That was the one I was really confident

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<v Speaker 1>about hitting over. So the over forty six and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that kind of showed me what I expected

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat of a high scoring game there. Um and then

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<v Speaker 1>the teaser which almost hit. So the teaser we had

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<v Speaker 1>ounce minus one. I think we collectively we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>feel good. They're Chiefs over forty six and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>so even though they lost the game. And then Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>plus ten. So that late touchdown that fumbled by to

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<v Speaker 1>uh Dre Greenlaw put it in the end zone that

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<v Speaker 1>actually killed it. So that would have been an extra

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<v Speaker 1>seven units there, but we stayed above. We're about two

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<v Speaker 1>three units up last week, so so we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to trend in the right direction here. Peter, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta ask you if you ordered your brock pretty jersey

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<v Speaker 1>yet funny that you say that is because I was

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<v Speaker 1>just at my desk and I was about to pull

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<v Speaker 1>the trigger in order to do it. Why not? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're Mr Irrelevant. I love it. Are you worried about

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<v Speaker 1>your team? Yeah? I think this week is gonna show

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. I think he played really well, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also not sold on the Dolphins defense. You saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>They were sending seven eight people at once to try

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<v Speaker 1>to contain him, which is never a good sign for

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who's probably never to start a game, especially

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<v Speaker 1>this year. But probably looking at a Bucks team, if

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<v Speaker 1>Lavonte David's healthy, I know he got shaken up on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday Night, a more worthy defense here. But again, looking

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<v Speaker 1>at it the other way, they're gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>build a litle bit of schematic offense around what he

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<v Speaker 1>can and can't do. So it's it's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>really telling week on on Sunday, the Bucks can't score.

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<v Speaker 1>So that gets right into my first pick. Okay, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a transition is what we call in the business.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the transition that is that is like you read

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<v Speaker 1>about it, so Brock Purty, Jimmy g Trey Lance kind

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<v Speaker 1>of didn't matter for me. Niners defenses playing unbelievable seven

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<v Speaker 1>points in the second half in the last five games.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a number one ranked defense. Nick Boss somehow

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<v Speaker 1>slotted himself back in the conversation for DPOY with Parsons

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<v Speaker 1>just thirteen and a a half sacks now, so he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>playing real role all pro season. He's incredible, amazing. So

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<v Speaker 1>their defense versus a Bucks offense that just frankly can't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything, Niners are minus four. So I have four

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<v Speaker 1>units on that one. We've taken that one unit we

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<v Speaker 1>normally put on an O G P and taking that

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<v Speaker 1>out this week Thursday came is awful and I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't know which way to go on that. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go four units. So that's forty dollars to win

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six Niners minus four. Third straight game for the

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<v Speaker 1>Niners at home, and I think they're starting to get

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<v Speaker 1>more healthy. Defense is fully back. I think they are

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<v Speaker 1>probably the team to be maybe outside the Eagles in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC. So Pee, I'm gonna actually, and I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at bead MGM right now, it's actually minus three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, so I'm getting used that number. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give you, I say three and a half because you

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<v Speaker 1>would know you would have waited until right now. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting even better Niner fans. Yeah, so it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a potentially a little bit of sharp money.

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<v Speaker 1>You go in the opposite way, but that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see. Yes, I think that's a Niners team

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<v Speaker 1>that can disrupt them to a way different degree than

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<v Speaker 1>the Saints did yesterday and frankly lucky that they pulled

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<v Speaker 1>out that win in the last minute and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got four units there, fort to win seventy

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<v Speaker 1>six are you? Are you teasing? Are you par laying

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the way. Yeah, So we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>different teasers here. So we had some success last week

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<v Speaker 1>on the totals, so I want to start with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're doing all three overs here. So we've teased

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<v Speaker 1>them down six points, so it's finns argers. We've teased

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<v Speaker 1>that down to forty six and a half. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's again another high scoring game. You have pretty potent offenses.

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert had a tough week last week versus the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that is a probably a high scoring matchup,

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<v Speaker 1>two teams really really fighting for that potential last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of playoff spots because the Chargers are right there, Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>start a little bit as kid, they can put themselves

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<v Speaker 1>in a bad spot. So I see that as a

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<v Speaker 1>high scoring one out in l a second one over

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<v Speaker 1>forty one and a half. So this is a really

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<v Speaker 1>appetizing number to me. Going down that six points for

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<v Speaker 1>Brown's Bengals, I think you saw Watson start to get

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<v Speaker 1>a bit more familiar with plan. That's been two years.

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<v Speaker 1>They looked fairly well against the Texans, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>saying much, but I think there'll be some points there,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously playing the Bengals, who are just absolutely rolling

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<v Speaker 1>right now, again, see that being a probably a forty

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<v Speaker 1>five to fifty point game collectively. And then the last one,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the one that I think is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit tricky, but it's over forty seven and a half

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<v Speaker 1>in the Vikings Lions games game, that's two teams that

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<v Speaker 1>can put up points, and as we've seen in the

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<v Speaker 1>season and then again more recently, the Lions give up

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of points. So I can see this again

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<v Speaker 1>being a an absolute shootout. This could be a forty

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty five ish score kind of kind of game.

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<v Speaker 1>So three units thirty two win seventy two. So as always,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that plus one forty mark right there for three teams.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you guys think about that one? So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going all over here, which is always risky. But it's risky,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're the fun guy at the bar who's rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for the over always fun dick who's rooting under. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to balance it after last week rooting for the tie.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I like it, and I agree. I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to wrap my head on the Olivia and I

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<v Speaker 1>were talking that the Lions are minus two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half in that game, so I wouldn't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>touch a side in that game. But I do like points.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually gonna mirror that teaser on my own. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I love that one. But if Vegas is predicting

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<v Speaker 1>a close game two and a half points, then you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta like the vikings there, you know, if they're nine

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<v Speaker 1>and oh and one score games. So if you're that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I like the overpee. I like your play. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some really really questionable lines this week that that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of them, and we'll get into some that I've

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<v Speaker 1>teased either down or up. It seems like a really,

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<v Speaker 1>really weird week in the NFL, So staying away from

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<v Speaker 1>those to your guys point there for the second teaser.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is all spreads. So we're going kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a back and forth approach here. First one, Texans are

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<v Speaker 1>last time I checked, plus seventeen. That is a big number,

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<v Speaker 1>especially where I'm going to tease it up to twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's still an NFL team at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. That's way too many points for me

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<v Speaker 1>to pass up. I was considering taking the the Cowboys down,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think playing with three scores plus, I think

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<v Speaker 1>is a pretty safe bet. Although they are pretty poor team,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they still have a lot to play for.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jamie and Pierce still can be a premier

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<v Speaker 1>running back in the league. I think they have lots

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<v Speaker 1>to prove to themselves. So don't see them winning that game.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's pretty clear, but I see it being

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere around a ten to four teen point game. So

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<v Speaker 1>plus twenty three there, Chief's going to Denver. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a minus nine. I've teased that down to minus three.

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs coming off tough law us Denver got absolutely killed

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<v Speaker 1>by Carolina. I think three points there is pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 1>favorable all things considered. So Chiefs bounced back week, probably

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<v Speaker 1>the best team in the NFC. I think they look

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be just fine. And then last one Brown's I've

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<v Speaker 1>teased it up from plus six to plus twelve versus

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals again, same game we touched in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the totals, I think they'll look a bit better with

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Watson. He looked pretty shaky kind of first couple

1:13:25.479 --> 1:13:28.800
<v Speaker 1>of drives on one o'clock on Sunday, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>he got back into his own rhythm as needed. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's generally a closer game than two scores.

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<v Speaker 1>Still think Bengals win at home, but again a seven

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<v Speaker 1>point game and still gives us some points to work

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<v Speaker 1>with there, So I think pretty good all things considered.

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<v Speaker 1>And then again thirty dollars to win seventy two, so

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<v Speaker 1>the same plus one forty and can put ourselves in

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<v Speaker 1>a good position here, and we're playing with I think

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of different totals and a couple of different

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<v Speaker 1>spreads that are pretty appealing with those six points. Pete,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm sorry I questioned your strategy of getting

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<v Speaker 1>on base a few weeks ago because it's working. Good stuff. Pete, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>why we have of all of our mics open and hot.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to wish a congratulations to one of our

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<v Speaker 1>friends and fellow employees, Zach Gayner, who welcomed a baby

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<v Speaker 1>girl this week very anxiety. Yes you won't be for

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seven months out and I'm not sleeping well. Pete,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks so much a lot of fun. If you see

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