Speaker 1: You can ask for them to bake your chicken wings.
Speaker 1: Where are you ordering from?
Speaker 2: No, I specifically look for places that bake. I prefer
Speaker 2: bakeover fry. Interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting, Okay? Is it? I?
Speaker 2: Is it that interesting? Is your life so boring that
Speaker 2: that is the boat? Or are you just trying to
Speaker 2: find a word because figure.
Speaker 1: You out, Michelle Bete, I'm trying to figure you out.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. You are. You are layered, I know,
Speaker 1: but you'd be doing some uh, you'd be doing some
Speaker 1: secret ship like I didn't know. You get baked chicken
Speaker 1: wings and ship come over to your house and have
Speaker 1: a baked chicken wing. That's wild.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hey, you can leave them at the door. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll be right out.
Speaker 1: It's the chicken wing man.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Bye, missy. They call you now.
Speaker 2: They call you. They want to make sure you got
Speaker 2: these wings.
Speaker 1: Bitch. Welcome, Welcome, y'all. This is adulting. You've reached the
Speaker 1: right address. I'm Jordan Carlos. I'm joined as always by
Speaker 1: my coat from go Michelby to Michelle. How you doing
Speaker 1: say something to the people?
Speaker 2: You know what I have. I've just given up on
Speaker 2: the idea of finding my belly. But when I sit down,
Speaker 2: but I'm doing well. I'm doing well. Everyone, I'm doing well.
Speaker 2: Shout out to these fucking delivery people. Man, truly, what
Speaker 2: a way to see a neighborhood.
Speaker 1: And I feel bad because my dog is always.
Speaker 2: Like, good for Leo. He doing his jobs, that's what
Speaker 2: he there for.
Speaker 1: His bark is so loud through the door, but he's
Speaker 1: just a tiny dog. And then you open the door
Speaker 1: and the person is just like anxiety riddled. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: I have two big black beautiful labs, bouncy little labs,
Speaker 2: two big black beautiful bouncey.
Speaker 1: It's gone. There's so much alliteration, almost sexual. Oh what's
Speaker 1: happened black? Oh you're gonna hear it from anonymous sixty nine.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like more laughter, more genuine moments of glee.
Speaker 1: This is bullshit. You're just supposed to say funny things
Speaker 1: like a movie, and no one is to laugh except
Speaker 1: for the audience.
Speaker 2: What my point was when those two beasts, when you
Speaker 2: open the door, those two beasts greet you. It's a
Speaker 2: lot of dog And I didn't grow up with the doghouse,
Speaker 2: so I always feel for people who don't like dogs
Speaker 2: because they look like they're doing like a game of twister,
Speaker 2: but every circle has mud in it. They're like like
Speaker 2: they don't know where to put their limbs, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. And I've turned into like Kathy Bates
Speaker 2: in every movie where I'm like out, got out, got
Speaker 2: out out. I need Caesar, I need Caesar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, the dogs. The dogs can really just throw
Speaker 1: a wrench in your schedule, I think. And people just
Speaker 1: aren't planning on a dog. They're not planning on a dog.
Speaker 1: You just are not planning on a dog. They're just
Speaker 1: like I don't know other people's dogs. They do freak
Speaker 1: me out sometimes a little bit.
Speaker 2: Your dogs are cool, But what freaks you out about
Speaker 2: other people's dogs?
Speaker 1: I don't know them. I don't know if they'll bite me.
Speaker 2: I'm just like, yes, okay, I see that. Now. Can
Speaker 2: you read a dog? Can you read when they're happy
Speaker 2: or chill? Or about it time?
Speaker 1: I thought you meant like I thought you meant, like
Speaker 1: put it in this place, like, can you read a dog?
Speaker 1: Can you?
Speaker 2: Can you take that bit to the library and be like,
Speaker 2: who's in charge? What do you even mean?
Speaker 1: I'm readA Maria Maria, Maria read this dog.
Speaker 2: First of all, you'll pause.
Speaker 1: No, I mean like I do pretty well. I just
Speaker 1: like hold my hand out. They're usually very calm around me.
Speaker 2: Oh, you follow all the rules, like you put your
Speaker 2: palm out or whatever, so they can smell you and stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm a friend, I'm a friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They often smell my dog on me. Sometimes that's cool.
Speaker 1: They're like, all right, cool, this guy's like a dog
Speaker 1: person because I can smell another dog.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been bit by a dog?
Speaker 1: Have I been bit by No? No, I've been scratched
Speaker 1: by a cat. I never bit by a dog. Oh,
Speaker 1: scratched by a cat?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, Misshue cut and your cat.
Speaker 1: We're done. Yeah, And that was it for me and cats.
Speaker 1: It scratched my hand and then just want.
Speaker 2: So it just happened with one cat. You're like, I'm
Speaker 2: good on all cats. It was four oh okay, and
Speaker 2: it scratched my hand and you remember that.
Speaker 1: I think it was like doctor butter Scotch or something
Speaker 1: like that was the name of the cat. And it
Speaker 1: was like I was kind of obsessed with it, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to be my friend. It was like, we're good,
Speaker 1: and then it just took a swipe.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I was scared of animals because my parents didn't like animals,
Speaker 2: so I didn't have like the vocabulary. And Caribbean people
Speaker 2: usually are like they're for outside, you know, they're like
Speaker 2: more security. It's a security they don't belong in your
Speaker 2: better in your hearts or something like. I'm not speaking
Speaker 2: for all Caribbean folks. I'm just talking about my family
Speaker 2: and the handful of dogs that I really got to
Speaker 2: know when I lived in La because La is such
Speaker 2: a dog friendly place. I was like, this is lovely.
Speaker 2: And I have this thing called anxiety now and I
Speaker 2: feel calm when I'm around these animals. And I mean
Speaker 2: I have been bit by a dog. I've been bit
Speaker 2: by two dogs. It was not fun. One of them
Speaker 2: I got chased down when I was six or seven
Speaker 2: coming on the bus. It was a German shepherd. Yeah
Speaker 2: no wait, yeah, okay, wait, king, can we get a shawan?
Speaker 1: Dan?
Speaker 2: I got a post.
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's way too many like cruel German dogs.
Speaker 1: I'm always like, m there's that the rottweiler, the what's
Speaker 1: that one? Both the pincher.
Speaker 2: Rotti's are really just so sweet, though, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. It's like I will say this, asshole people
Speaker 2: have asshole dogs, asshole people have asshole kids period, Like
Speaker 2: it always comes from the top, right, And so yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, at least like kids can go off to
Speaker 2: college or get some therapy and figure the shit out.
Speaker 2: Animals can't.
Speaker 1: No. Wait, wait, so you got bit when you were six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been bit twice. The second time I was
Speaker 2: in my twenties, just moved to Manhattan and my neighbor
Speaker 2: had a It was a mix between like a hot
Speaker 2: dog and something else, and he went right from my thigh.
Speaker 2: I said, your dog is biting me right now. This
Speaker 2: is what you know what I mean? And it's like
Speaker 2: you don't want to put your hand around their face
Speaker 2: because my I'm glad. This is so funny. But even cats,
Speaker 2: like you know, just trying to figure out how to
Speaker 2: read animals and how to stay safe is really like
Speaker 2: the way to also figure out how to enjoy them
Speaker 2: and their company. If I'm unsure, I just ignore, I
Speaker 2: don't give them attention. And if I don't feel like
Speaker 2: their owners are doing enough, I asked their owners to
Speaker 2: do more.
Speaker 1: You got to you got to in this economy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because heis had a cat when I first met him,
Speaker 2: He's had a cat named Who's And I say, you
Speaker 2: better not doctor Seuss and this was all black cat
Speaker 2: were into black animals. And yeah, that cat did not
Speaker 2: like me. He was like, bitch, this is my tumble
Speaker 2: to lay on. That cat did not like me. Eventually
Speaker 2: it warmed to you, or if ever he did warm
Speaker 2: to me. And I did not know that the cat
Speaker 2: liked me because when I came home from wherever, I
Speaker 2: was out shopping in Saddam on my feets and my bike,
Speaker 2: getting some organic whatever the fuck. I came back and
Speaker 2: there was the head of a mouse on my pillow.
Speaker 2: All yeah, and Kais is like, oh, that means he
Speaker 2: likes you. I'll say, you gotta get for sea because
Speaker 2: I'm good on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a wonderful gesture to say, I see you,
Speaker 1: I acknowledge you.
Speaker 2: People oughta is very thoughtful.
Speaker 1: We got to get to our guests though, yesl wow,
Speaker 1: this was really some NAACP Image Award winning material.
Speaker 2: I better see you. I better see you at the
Speaker 2: next award show. Okay, really here saving lives.
Speaker 1: But listen, our guest Wow, a drag race champion among
Speaker 1: other things, Broadway icon as well.
Speaker 2: Don't know if she's a champion. I think she's a
Speaker 2: runner up but things. Yeah, but I love that she's
Speaker 2: a champion in your eyes, she's amazing. She's also on
Speaker 2: my show Survival of the Thicket is coming out on Netflix.
Speaker 2: She's a goddess and I really can't wait for you
Speaker 2: guys to just get into this episode.
Speaker 1: Give it up for okay, Jordan, what.
Speaker 2: I told you? This material is real crazy. I have
Speaker 2: pussy sweat. Were talking, we're saying that.
Speaker 3: Yes something everybody, but this is shortan.
Speaker 1: Carlos, we're out here.
Speaker 4: Can I say something now? Can I say something else?
Speaker 4: Can I say something else?
Speaker 1: Yes? You came, I do to you know?
Speaker 2: This is what happened. This is what happens when you
Speaker 2: just got tick ties that saved lives. Yeah them take
Speaker 2: them tick ties? Can they really do?
Speaker 1: Mary J.
Speaker 2: Blae she knows. This is giving Mary J. Blige the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl last year. And this is what happens when
Speaker 2: you don't wear underwear. I should have like learned.
Speaker 1: Look at them.
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, yes, this you fucked up. Also, there's all
Speaker 2: all these like really great things for fake girls now
Speaker 2: like chafing deodorant for your thighs.
Speaker 1: I have thighs myself, you do, I do? I do
Speaker 1: pretty thin.
Speaker 2: What'd you say this? What'd you say this?
Speaker 1: You need a full side like that. It's like a
Speaker 1: horse's leg. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is she coming to Thanksgiving talking about the parts of
Speaker 2: the turkey?
Speaker 1: She liked? Yeah, Oh my god. They told me.
Speaker 4: They told me at Brown not to do that, not
Speaker 4: to to break the body down into certain parts.
Speaker 1: That that's objectifying. But thank you.
Speaker 2: I have a question, Jordan. I's for last question. What's
Speaker 2: like Okay, so you are a very straight man. Okay,
Speaker 2: what is or you're saying for like, what is one thing?
Speaker 2: What is one thing in high school, like in the
Speaker 2: locker room that you felt self conscious of or even
Speaker 2: in college?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I had an oudy belly button A
Speaker 1: not anymore?
Speaker 2: Somebody said, like prove it. Okay, let's not even Moore.
Speaker 1: It's gone. It's gone, now gone, look it's gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gone. Come on, give me some fight for let's go.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the stage. You know him, you love him
Speaker 2: from adulting and other stuff? Is shortan Edward?
Speaker 1: You want to see this?
Speaker 4: Do you want to see this one path. That's what
Speaker 4: you want to say. Now, do you want to see
Speaker 4: this box wine?
Speaker 2: Let me say gay, Let me see gay, let me say,
Speaker 2: let me.
Speaker 1: Say, let me say, let me say kay. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it doesn't get that much airtime.
Speaker 2: I love it. People just throwing bit coin on that.
Speaker 4: I know, Jesus, people are really settling out there in
Speaker 4: the real world.
Speaker 1: You're like, look at that hot loaf of stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh, we got one thumb up, one on down?
Speaker 2: What in the gladiator it's going on?
Speaker 1: Bitches? Listen, body brought to you by a twenty pound kettle.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. You know who said it?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 2: I don't remember who's I was up like late one night.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even I'm not even on TikTok, but like
Speaker 2: TikTok's on Instagram, so what the fuck? I think it
Speaker 2: was Gabrielle Union and she was like, we get the
Speaker 2: one body, we get the one body, love it? Can
Speaker 2: we just like not beat it up like that? And
Speaker 2: so I started doing these Mayan abdominal massages where you
Speaker 2: massage the tummy in the front because we're always focused
Speaker 2: on the back, right, and we always beat up the front.
Speaker 2: But the frunk's doing what it's gotta do too, Like,
Speaker 2: let's show it some love.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So I'm like.
Speaker 2: Let's get in there, figure out if she's okay and
Speaker 2: she's good. Yeah, I mean, it's it's a very wild
Speaker 2: place to like hold on to stuff but also be
Speaker 2: very present. But that's how my mind works, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So yeah, man, definitely the most adult
Speaker 2: thing for me this year has been like just diving
Speaker 2: into the holistic wellness of it all.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I think you were getting into wellness.
Speaker 2: You ain't gotta know everything about me, motherfucking.
Speaker 1: No, that's great. I mean, like, goop it the fuck up.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not gooping it up.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm supporting black owned businesses, trying to figure out what
Speaker 2: my shit is.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've never seen so much Palo Santo of
Speaker 2: my whole fucking life.
Speaker 1: But it's okay, is great. It's so cleansing. That's what
Speaker 1: they tell me. I did not know that. So are
Speaker 1: you meditating? Are you what do you? What do you Christian?
Speaker 2: Do you do a little bit of I do a
Speaker 2: little bit of it all? Okay, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 2: I do what I can, and I don't beat myself
Speaker 2: up if I can't do it. I'm just like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: that's cool. The dish is done, the meditating, the fucking
Speaker 2: the bill. The bills will get paid when they gotta
Speaker 2: get paid. Like everybody, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like you want to come.
Speaker 4: Shut the what's that it is?
Speaker 2: Because you can beat yourself up? And like you know,
Speaker 2: it's a rat race. It's just like, why am I
Speaker 2: on the government's time when they're not online? So let
Speaker 2: me do what I gotta do when y'all do what
Speaker 2: the fuck you do it? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I'm not really trying to give it too much
Speaker 2: energy where I'm just like, oh, why in the why
Speaker 2: in the it's it's a fucking lot. And then my
Speaker 2: right eye gets a heartbeat. I'm like, no, not today, Jesus,
Speaker 2: take the wheel and go over the white Stone Bridge. Jesus,
Speaker 2: we're doing it. Also, I saw this thing that this
Speaker 2: is the last thing I'll say, just kidding. It's not
Speaker 2: Gabrielle Union. Let's get her on the show. Somebody asked her,
Speaker 2: what are your tips for staying so young? I looking
Speaker 2: so young. She said water and boundaries. She said, drink
Speaker 2: lots of water and say no a lot, because when
Speaker 2: you say no to bullshit, you say yes to peace
Speaker 2: of mind.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was Robert Frost who said good walls make
Speaker 1: good neighbors. What are you? What the fuck I mean different?
Speaker 2: I don't know either. It's just giving sister act to
Speaker 2: substitute energy.
Speaker 1: More like dead.
Speaker 2: I hope I have enough ketchup for my French fries.
Speaker 1: Listen, you inspire me to think of like poets and
Speaker 1: shit I want you. Don't believe that bullshit.
Speaker 2: Motherfucker is I believe it's a bullshit in his fucking
Speaker 2: foot locker clearance sweatshirts. I am so excited to bring
Speaker 2: our guests out because Wow, she is amazing. She is
Speaker 2: a force. Yes, she lights up a room. It's also
Speaker 2: like what can't she do? She does everything, and she
Speaker 2: does it well. I can't wait to talk to her.
Speaker 1: Broadway Zone Yes, drag Races Zone, Yes, please give it
Speaker 1: up for Pepperman.
Speaker 2: I love you so much, Peppermint. This is John Will,
Speaker 2: the DJ. He's a great friend. So I'm so excited
Speaker 2: because I met Peppermint because as I was filming my
Speaker 2: show Survival of the Thickest for Netflix, uh coming out
Speaker 2: in the summer. I told casting, look, the central perk
Speaker 2: of the show, like the central parking Friends, it's going
Speaker 2: to be a drag a bar restaurant, and I really
Speaker 2: want to find a black trans woman who is not
Speaker 2: afraid to talk about some shit, get down with some
Speaker 2: shit and be hilarious. And Cassiding was like, do you
Speaker 2: know Peppermint. I'm like, she would never do it, And
Speaker 2: then I fully looked you up and you were on
Speaker 2: tour and I was like, she probably won't do it,
Speaker 2: and she probably can't do it. So the fact that
Speaker 2: you were able to do it, and you did such
Speaker 2: an amazing job and you were so fucking funny and
Speaker 2: lovely and warm and even like the biggest, coldest assholes
Speaker 2: on set and there was only two of them. They
Speaker 2: were like, do you think I can get a picture
Speaker 2: of Peppermint? That's what you do for people, two people.
Speaker 2: So thank you for doing my show.
Speaker 5: My gosh, I didn't expect that. I love you well, bitch,
Speaker 5: I'm well, let me get I'll get you right back.
Speaker 2: Let me pour into you.
Speaker 5: I you know, I didn't know what to expect obviously
Speaker 5: I was a fan. Obviously I've seen some of your work,
Speaker 5: and when I got the I won't say what happened
Speaker 5: when I got the call about the show, because I
Speaker 5: was like, what's going on here? First of all, when
Speaker 5: I read the script, I was like, yes, absolutely, the
Speaker 5: conversations that our characters were having together, and then all
Speaker 5: of the other folks in the story and in the show,
Speaker 5: it was like the most inclusive, most affirming atmosphere. And
Speaker 5: then that was behind the camera and also in front
Speaker 5: of the camera. So I'm just so grateful to be
Speaker 5: a part of something like this. I believe in it
Speaker 5: so hard. Y'all have never seen a show like this.
Speaker 1: So set it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: It's a pretty good show.
Speaker 5: So when the thing, when the Reminder comes out, Netflix,
Speaker 5: you better I will come to each and every we
Speaker 5: have the cat.
Speaker 1: I will come to your house. I love it.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: You're amazing. Like, look, Jordan was able to do a cameo,
Speaker 2: which is dopey. There's a big party for the season finale.
Speaker 2: Don was able to be on the show and play
Speaker 2: the DJ. When I tell you, like, you know, you
Speaker 2: have creative people in your life for a reason. So
Speaker 2: why the fuck not you know, casting, or just like,
Speaker 2: how about you work with this person? You're like, that's cool.
Speaker 2: How about I work with a friend that's also talented?
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? And it's just like, man,
Speaker 2: we are only stronger together. So and I see this
Speaker 2: all the time. Somebody else's success will never fuck up yours,
Speaker 2: So just do it together. We're okay now that we
Speaker 2: got the wedding speech out.
Speaker 1: Of the way, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you just started working with GLAD, Glad Glad.
Speaker 1: What you said Aladdin?
Speaker 2: Oh my god are the lad Oh my gosh, that
Speaker 2: would be fire.
Speaker 1: Through the new jats. But on a Laddin, I can
Speaker 1: show you.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yes, I actually join the board of GLAD, So
Speaker 5: I don't technically work for GLAD. I volunteer for GLAD,
Speaker 5: and I'm on the board of directors, the national Board
Speaker 5: of Directors, which means we have the opportunity to sort
Speaker 5: of connect community and need and opportunity and funding with
Speaker 5: their vision. And there's there's a lot of things to
Speaker 5: see in the vision currently of basically advancing opportunities for
Speaker 5: LGBTQ folks and making sure that representation that we see
Speaker 5: in the media is accurate, not only just like a
Speaker 5: gay character on a show, but making sure that all
Speaker 5: across the media landscape, that there's fair representation in commercials,
Speaker 5: in all types of advertising and music industry, just all
Speaker 5: over the place. And so that's what I do with GLAD.
Speaker 5: I also work as an ambassador to transjustice with the
Speaker 5: ACLU GLAD or the Yes glad er the individuals to
Speaker 5: our helping shape the landscape in terms of what we
Speaker 5: see and hear about queer folks and making sure it's
Speaker 5: as intersectional as possible. And then the ACLU are the
Speaker 5: ones who go and sue motherfuckers who try to do
Speaker 5: us wrong.
Speaker 1: Gise my language.
Speaker 2: I thought that, yeah, I mean, Jordan and I were
Speaker 2: just talking about it, and we're like, what is happening
Speaker 2: in America? Because almost every state has a ridiculous, a
Speaker 2: ridiculous anti drag and trans law that they I mean,
Speaker 2: that are.
Speaker 1: It's the usual suspects. It's the usual suspects, I mean,
Speaker 1: And I don't want to speak on it too much,
Speaker 1: but like I noticed that in Arkansas was an exceptional
Speaker 1: case because what really is behind it? You know, not
Speaker 1: only are you're you're exploiting children you're exploring children by
Speaker 1: saying you're protecting them. That was the same thing that
Speaker 1: zone the war on drugs, prohibition, you name it, right,
Speaker 1: use the children, use the children to punish a certain
Speaker 1: group or demo. Right, So now trans people are the target.
Speaker 1: And what you didn't see it, that's signing that Sarah
Speaker 1: Huckabee did was that in Arkansas. She also lowered the
Speaker 1: age that children can work legally in Arkansas. Oh oh
Speaker 1: that part was left out right. So do you see
Speaker 1: how sly they are? Yeah, And it's the same states,
Speaker 1: the ones with the high infant mortality rates, the ones
Speaker 1: with the high imprisonment rates, Like, it's the same shit
Speaker 1: different toilet.
Speaker 5: The ones with the how the ones with ironically are
Speaker 5: not so much. The ones with the highest search results
Speaker 5: for transgender porn are the states that are outlining access
Speaker 5: to healthcare, housing, education, employment for queer folks and obviously
Speaker 5: specifically trans folks. But when you said it's the usual suspects,
Speaker 5: it's literally the usual suspects. It's the same exact architect
Speaker 5: behind the effort to quote protect young children from what
Speaker 5: they're calling trans ideology.
Speaker 1: It's these same people.
Speaker 5: It's the same exact architect Christopher Rufo is his name, Yes,
Speaker 5: I will say his name, Christopher.
Speaker 2: Rue Christopher rufol Come get it.
Speaker 5: It's also the same person who's dismantling the accurate history
Speaker 5: of black people in this country through education, taking anything
Speaker 5: that has to do with the accurate representation of black
Speaker 5: folks in this country as we're connected to our history,
Speaker 5: and calling it quote see RT critical race theory.
Speaker 1: It's his idea. He laid out the planning.
Speaker 5: He said, I'm going to do abortion, I'm going to
Speaker 5: do critical race theory, and I'm going to do the
Speaker 5: trans folks, and we're going to get them all. And
Speaker 5: what this does is, aside from attacking us and attacking
Speaker 5: our humanity, it is an attempt to dehumanize us. But
Speaker 5: what it really I think the real goal, like you said,
Speaker 5: is to disenfranchise these people, to disenfranchise queer people and
Speaker 5: women and separate us from as Patamo was saying, separating
Speaker 5: us from our bodily autonomy, separating us, criminalizing us so
Speaker 5: that we can't vote, and then they can pass all
Speaker 5: these things through. They don't have to have a distraction anymore.
Speaker 5: Once they do that. Yeah, we gotta fight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta fight for me I always like, I
Speaker 2: always like to obviously vote, like do the things I
Speaker 2: have to do, but you know, be responsible with my words,
Speaker 2: my voice, my power, my audience, my stage right. And
Speaker 2: so when it hits the arts and people are making
Speaker 2: millions of dollars for hate speech, millions of dollars punching down,
Speaker 2: you know, female comedians don't even make what they pay
Speaker 2: in taxes for these specials. And we are trying to
Speaker 2: not only be funnier than most of the motherfuckers in
Speaker 2: the room. Dare I say, winning awards for shit that
Speaker 2: no one else has won, And it's just like the
Speaker 2: right people need to hear it.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it does feel like screen in a dark room,
Speaker 2: no matter what platform you're on. But be responsible with
Speaker 2: your words, no matter what, because you have to sleep
Speaker 2: at night, you have to look at yourself in the mirror.
Speaker 2: And it's just like, if we only just took five
Speaker 2: minutes to think about what it's like for someone that
Speaker 2: doesn't look like us, then the world, I think would
Speaker 2: be a better place. Okay, now let's talk about dating.
Speaker 1: I fucking knew it.
Speaker 2: I knew it. Let's talk about dating. The cheapest date
Speaker 2: you've ever been on, go.
Speaker 1: Okay, a cheap motherfucker.
Speaker 5: I was worried about this conversation, but probably not for
Speaker 5: the reason you think, you know. Honestly, as a queer
Speaker 5: person and as a trans woman, my connection to dating
Speaker 5: and like sexuality came at a different time than it
Speaker 5: probably would have had a grown up as this gender
Speaker 5: and heterosexual. I didn't even really start becoming sexually active
Speaker 5: until way in my almost thirties, and I don't think
Speaker 5: i'd ever been on a date until I was like
Speaker 5: in my mid thirties, and so most of my connections
Speaker 5: were like through, Where are you going, bitch? I know,
Speaker 5: not the front row. You better be getting a trade. Okay, okay,
Speaker 5: she's like a date.
Speaker 2: That's gonna go get you a date.
Speaker 1: That's where she goes.
Speaker 2: I know somebody. I'll be right back, you know how
Speaker 2: Forrest Cump just keeps running through. That's what she doing.
Speaker 1: But go ahead, girl, bring me back, walk too, Go now,
Speaker 1: you gotta go now. No, it's okay, it's okay. A
Speaker 1: diet coke, It's okay. Do you want to you want
Speaker 1: a wedge of anything in that?
Speaker 2: Do you want like a diet coke and a rotistory
Speaker 2: chicken for me?
Speaker 1: Thinking yea, anyway, so teas chief dates. I'm a chief date.
Speaker 1: I think, okay, this is we're gonna but cheap dates.
Speaker 1: So it didn't have any conventional dates, right, Can I.
Speaker 2: Just say tell me there's a lot of power to
Speaker 2: dating in your mid thirties, because wow, you're not gonna
Speaker 2: fuck around well bullshit so quick? Do you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Because because I grew up like maybe a
Speaker 2: little too fast, and so getting cheated on like at
Speaker 2: seventeen and at nineteen and at twenty two broke my
Speaker 2: heart and I was like fucked up about it. If
Speaker 2: I didn't date some like I was in my thirties,
Speaker 2: I would read a motherfucker like like a government library,
Speaker 2: you understand, like it would be open three hours a day.
Speaker 2: But oh boy, fair enough, it's true read I'm or read,
Speaker 2: I'm a read. Okay.
Speaker 5: From that same in that same regard, I meet dating
Speaker 5: in my thirties allowed me to date more as my
Speaker 5: true self.
Speaker 1: You know, and thank you.
Speaker 5: And so you know, for me, that meant being in
Speaker 5: the body that I wanted, feeling good about that, and
Speaker 5: and you know, knowing that the people that I was
Speaker 5: drawn to were drawn to me, and everything that I
Speaker 5: was offering, and I tried before at different stages, and
Speaker 5: it just it never worked. Like gays were like girl, no,
Speaker 5: I was like okay. So dating in my thirties it
Speaker 5: was a lot. And there's a lot of bs that
Speaker 5: trans people go through. I mean a lot of this
Speaker 5: stuff is connected to what we're seeing already, like you know,
Speaker 5: in the world, so it naturally carries over into the
Speaker 5: dating world a lot of shame. And so if you
Speaker 5: happen to hear of a celebrity, because that's what you'll
Speaker 5: hear about who happens to be dating a trans woman, like,
Speaker 5: just don't feed into the online like transphobia sort of
Speaker 5: homophobia of it all. Well, if you hear of a
Speaker 5: guy dating a trans woman, don't feed into it, because
Speaker 5: dating a trans woman does not make him gay. That's
Speaker 5: really important for everybody to know. That's the kind of
Speaker 5: stuff that I've had to deal with. So when I
Speaker 5: was swiping on like all the dating apps and stuff,
Speaker 5: trying to break into the dating scene, I was dealing
Speaker 5: with a lot of you know, like your account's been
Speaker 5: banned because people are reporting you because you're trans and
Speaker 5: they don't think you belong in this.
Speaker 1: Space, and so once I was able to get through
Speaker 1: I know, or once I was able to get through
Speaker 1: all of that, I fell in love and and then
Speaker 1: he broke my heart. He cheated on me. Wait, okay, this.
Speaker 7: Was a cheap date. I met him, God damn it.
Speaker 7: I met him on Facebook. Was in Tunisia. Yes, no,
Speaker 7: they were all rooting for you.
Speaker 1: It is I know he might as What's worse, he
Speaker 1: was from Boston.
Speaker 2: Oh center.
Speaker 1: He ended up cheating on me with my with one
Speaker 1: of my best friends. We were hold up. He double
Speaker 1: timed both of us.
Speaker 5: Girl, I saw him commenting on her Facebook page and
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my gosh, and I called her.
Speaker 5: I was like, girl, do you know so and so?
Speaker 5: And she's like, I know so and so. And suddenly
Speaker 5: it was like the boy is mine started music.
Speaker 1: Don't you tell me to get.
Speaker 2: What were you Monica?
Speaker 5: I was Monica, don't sell yourself. Yeah, because he left me.
Speaker 5: I don't really know who won in the song, but
Speaker 5: he left me. They both did nobody. He left me,
Speaker 5: He denied me, He broke my heart. She dumped him too.
Speaker 5: We were all over it, but oh my god, it
Speaker 5: was it was honestly the catalyst.
Speaker 1: That was the thing.
Speaker 5: That was that moment that I was like, okay, I'm
Speaker 5: done with the BS, and so I was able to
Speaker 5: be done with it. And I've had some other hiccups
Speaker 5: along the way, but the last time I had my
Speaker 5: heart broke and I turned it into an album and
Speaker 5: a tour and.
Speaker 1: So you know, put my tailor on. Do that te Swift.
Speaker 2: I love it. You better pour your your fucking fucking
Speaker 2: experience in your work. Thank you everyone. I was really
Speaker 2: trying to read and get a thing. I was like,
Speaker 2: what am I? Why am I doing three things at
Speaker 2: the same time?
Speaker 1: Is it time for questions?
Speaker 2: It is time for questions? Okay, please expand on what
Speaker 2: is the deal with bonnets and hairnuts on airplanes?
Speaker 1: Please expand?
Speaker 2: Show yourself?
Speaker 1: Who is it?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: What a cultural thing?
Speaker 5: Excuse me? Excuse me? What what you got to say?
Speaker 5: This one?
Speaker 1: Right here? Stand this okay?
Speaker 5: Okay, who's black on black crime?
Speaker 1: Must see right now, must right now? Please leave the room.
Speaker 1: We gotta have a conversation. We can't do it right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, this this, this is what I'll say. Depends on
Speaker 2: the airline, depends on my seat, depends if it's it's
Speaker 2: not spirit. I'm not even gonna show up. But anything
Speaker 2: with the zipper like you gotta funck that you don't
Speaker 2: deserve it. Fuck United, they killed the dog. They can
Speaker 2: fuck off.
Speaker 1: Delta, Delta, Delta.
Speaker 2: If I'm in first plus.
Speaker 1: Girl, you can do any you can change your clothes.
Speaker 2: And if i'm look, you know what it is because
Speaker 2: all these old white men just fucking spread and eat
Speaker 2: with their mouth open and far and yon shoes off
Speaker 2: and ship. Can I just protect my fucking edges? I
Speaker 2: don't know what the funk just happened on the seat
Speaker 2: before me. Plus, if it's an overnight, fuck that, give
Speaker 2: me my shitty red wine with my fucking bonnet, any
Speaker 2: fucking deck plus and I will only watch the woman
Speaker 2: king over and over.
Speaker 1: Again, open start started. Oh my gosh, look at that.
Speaker 6: Yes, cheers to toasting, to toasting, to toasting. Yeah, come on, man,
Speaker 6: I'm just like, look, I have a pet peeve with
Speaker 6: people that lick your fingers and take a pillow on
Speaker 6: an airplane.
Speaker 2: Take a pillow on an airplane?
Speaker 5: Can you take a pillow air Oh don't bring a
Speaker 5: pillow from pillow from home.
Speaker 2: No, that's.
Speaker 1: Especially the saddest pillow you ever see.
Speaker 2: This sad pill that's the fun. It's just like this
Speaker 2: isn't camping, bitch, so four hour flight, pack a pillow
Speaker 2: or stay home? What do you need a Blankye?
Speaker 1: They have pillows on the plane.
Speaker 2: They got pillows on the plane.
Speaker 1: Well not always or whatever? Yeah, okay, I mean okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: hold us asleep?
Speaker 2: What the fuck are you saying?
Speaker 1: Asleep? Sleeping bag?
Speaker 2: You take a bitch?
Speaker 1: You too?
Speaker 3: You brought.
Speaker 1: Along? What's the flame? Where were you going to the moon?
Speaker 1: Who hurts you?
Speaker 2: Cold? Bitch? You are knee make have a skirts? Taking
Speaker 2: some fucking yeah.
Speaker 4: I love the time where I wish I had a
Speaker 4: Coleman kind of like, you know, caterpillar sleeping bag.
Speaker 2: I like this question. How do you learn to argue
Speaker 2: with your partner? It depends if they're taking a sleeping bag.
Speaker 1: You're not ringing a sleeping bag. We got unrolling roller.
Speaker 1: Every time we go through security. I never got to
Speaker 1: get the air out. She didn't get in the little bag.
Speaker 2: She said, it's so cold. Bring a sweatshirt.
Speaker 1: I don't want to stop flying across the hold.
Speaker 2: You need irons.
Speaker 1: It's literally a rolled up comforter. Yeah that's true.
Speaker 2: How do you argue?
Speaker 1: How do you argue with someone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's important because you're gonna argue with somebody
Speaker 2: and you should really learn how to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you should be productive.
Speaker 1: Thank you every Yes, my wife and I don't fight.
Speaker 1: We are sparring partners. That's who we are. If you
Speaker 1: if she's like people from yes, people from Brooklyn, their
Speaker 1: love language is argument, and my wife is from Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: So everything, every every day, it's just like, no, the
Speaker 1: Pacific Ocean is greater than the Atlantic folk. You you know,
Speaker 1: like it's just about. It's just spa. You square up,
Speaker 1: you spar about ideas, You spar about ideas. You keep
Speaker 1: it spicy, spar spar nobody gets hurt. You wear headgear.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked about this before. The most important thing,
Speaker 2: too is let somebody finish. Let somebody finish and really
Speaker 2: think about what you want to say. This isn't a competition.
Speaker 2: You don't have to be like yeah, but yeah, but
Speaker 2: I mean that could happen once in a while. But
Speaker 2: once you're like in your thirties and your forties and
Speaker 2: yet older, it's like that shit is not cute. What
Speaker 2: are you doing? You guys are two human beings who
Speaker 2: love each other. You gotta figure it out in like
Speaker 2: a decent way, do you know what I mean? And
Speaker 2: whoever's gonna be like more drunk or hut, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? You just gotta know that we'll just
Speaker 2: pick it up tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, especially when you know, usually when you're fighting,
Speaker 5: you're not really fighting about what you think you're fighting us.
Speaker 5: That's right, arguments the chicken thing on the table, but
Speaker 5: that's not really what.
Speaker 8: Do you have any advice about arguments? Don I will
Speaker 8: say you two things. Don't gloat and know how to
Speaker 8: be wrong gracefully. Those are the two things. I think
Speaker 8: STFU is really good. Let the person speak, then, STF.
Speaker 8: You also shut the fun up, Shut the fuck up,
Speaker 8: let them speak.
Speaker 2: The best way to have somebody shut up is to
Speaker 2: sit on their face, which leads me to my next question.
Speaker 2: You are right, no, how many times a week should
Speaker 2: we be having sex?
Speaker 1: I think it's like people are People aren't having a
Speaker 1: lot of sex out there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I mean are not? They're not They're not having
Speaker 1: According to.
Speaker 5: Statistics that I read, that's because the people having sex
Speaker 5: are too busy to do.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I think one to two
Speaker 1: times a week is like a good I'll tell you,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Let me tell you more than that.
Speaker 1: Go ahead. Yeah, okay, I think for myself. This demo
Speaker 1: right here is like, y'all are fun. The rest of
Speaker 1: the room. The rest of the room. The rest of
Speaker 1: the room is like, that's a good goal. But wait,
Speaker 1: very good goal.
Speaker 5: I like the couple behind them still fighting about the bonnet.
Speaker 1: Yo, Yeah, why did you read them from five minutes ago?
Speaker 1: I can't gloat. Don't gloat, man, don't gloat.
Speaker 2: I can't believe you asked about that bonnet. Real talk.
Speaker 2: This answer is really up to you. Life changes, your
Speaker 2: schedule changes, your body changes, your energy level changes, your
Speaker 2: desire for the person or people changes. So like, don't
Speaker 2: beat yourself up for having too much or having too little.
Speaker 2: It's what you get, what you need when you need it. Period.
Speaker 1: It's like fortune take you gone.
Speaker 2: Do I have to pretend to care about my friend's kids?
Speaker 3: Yo, wrote wrote that, yeah, damn.
Speaker 4: I always drill the names of the kids before we
Speaker 4: go see the family. I'm like, I'm like, okay, it's
Speaker 4: Darius and Archimedes, right, Like, Okay.
Speaker 2: The short answer is no.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I have a feeling that if you're if
Speaker 5: you're asking that question, you you.
Speaker 1: Really they already know you don't care.
Speaker 2: Yeah they know. But sometimes these parents don't give a
Speaker 2: fuck because they're so hungry for attention and community. That
Speaker 2: is not like just in parent mode, and so you
Speaker 2: really put that shit on the other person. But that's
Speaker 2: why I'm just like, let's go meet somewhere and I'll
Speaker 2: get a babysitter, because, yeah, you gotta read the room.
Speaker 2: Your kid is a part of you, they're not all
Speaker 2: of you, you know what I mean, So like you
Speaker 2: don't have to pretend you don't have to like someone's kids.
Speaker 2: That's now teachers don't even fucking like kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just.
Speaker 2: Want a better future. They don't give a fuck about
Speaker 2: your kids.
Speaker 1: Some days I don't like my kids. You know, it's tough. Okay,
Speaker 1: How do you motivate yourself to exercise regularly? Sex is?
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what?
Speaker 2: I think? This is sort of like hmm, this is
Speaker 2: sort of like anything you need to do in life,
Speaker 2: like whether it's quitting a job or divorce or cleaning
Speaker 2: up that room or whatever the fuck it is. One
Speaker 2: day you're gonna wake up and be like, all right,
Speaker 2: I gotta do this for myself. Yeah, but in the meantime,
Speaker 2: sit fucking pretty, sit pretty, order the uber eats, do
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck you gotta do. One day you're gonna
Speaker 2: be like, all right, I'm ready to fucking work out.
Speaker 2: And when you do work out, get yourself a friend, a.
Speaker 1: Little edible, very fun edible underwear.
Speaker 2: Also, go to Target. They got great workout clothes for
Speaker 2: a very affordable price. As a bigger person going to
Speaker 2: the gym, you're very self I'm very self conscious because
Speaker 2: I'm like everything is black, everyone got like everyone looks
Speaker 2: like Meg the Stallion, and like, okay, you know, just
Speaker 2: get like fucking new clothes and it'll make you feel
Speaker 2: like ten percent better. Like half the work is just
Speaker 2: saying I'm gonna do it for myself.
Speaker 1: I love that leather or lace, that's.
Speaker 2: A real question. Wow, I think neither. I got a
Speaker 2: sweaty pussy. I can't I go to the gym. I
Speaker 2: need two towels, one for my hair, one from my puss.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm so sorry. What does
Speaker 2: everybody else say?
Speaker 5: I thought they were talking about wigs at first. Lace
Speaker 5: pepper Min, what do you think leather or lace I've
Speaker 5: worn lace. I've worn lace. I think leather is too
Speaker 5: much going on. Yeah, definitely sweaty. Yeah, but you know
Speaker 5: it ends up off of you anyway, So like, just
Speaker 5: start that way you wore.
Speaker 2: You wear some outfits, honey, I know.
Speaker 1: I usually do quite revealing. Yes, I mean, you know.
Speaker 2: Let's go. Okay, we gotta wrap this up. Last question
Speaker 2: for you, Peppermint. Oh my god, it's been so fucking fun.
Speaker 2: I don't want it to end, but it's got to do.
Speaker 2: What's the most adul't think you want to do for
Speaker 2: yourself that you haven't had time to do yet this year,
Speaker 2: And it could be anything.
Speaker 5: Time haven't had time to do. Oh god, really, I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 1: I'd like to.
Speaker 5: I would like to begin the process of purchasing house
Speaker 5: for myself. I don't know about if that's about time
Speaker 5: or money or both.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that. I love that for you, and
Speaker 2: that will happen.
Speaker 5: I'm in the same I probably shouldn't announce this, but
Speaker 5: I'm in the same apartment that I've been in for
Speaker 5: twenty five years when I moved here.
Speaker 1: As a college student. What it's time. You're allowed? You're allowed?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 5: It inspired during the pandemic. I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 5: got to get out of here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. And you know what, You're going to
Speaker 2: attract so many different things people, for better and for
Speaker 2: better and for worse, for better and for worse and
Speaker 2: wile Peppermint, thank you for everything you do. You are just.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 2: Give it up for Pepperman. I do love when people
Speaker 2: openly admit that they want to uh buy real estate
Speaker 2: in America, because that means that you're still investing in America,
Speaker 2: like you still believe in America, you know, I do
Speaker 2: believe that creating whatever kind of generational wealth will also
Speaker 2: create generational health. And what is more beautiful than an
Speaker 2: openly black trans female entertainer owning fucking property and paying
Speaker 2: for that house by doing shows as a drag qu
Speaker 2: as singer, you know, as a black transperformer. To me,
Speaker 2: there's nothing sweeter. Also, like she's adult enough. You know
Speaker 2: when I when I first bought something, I was a mess.
Speaker 2: I was just making money and still didn't even know
Speaker 2: how to tip properly at a bar. I shouldn't have
Speaker 2: been Thank god, my mom had like the two cents
Speaker 2: to be like, bitch, stop going a Zara, Stop buying
Speaker 2: birthday dinners for your friends, lots of air quotes. Went
Speaker 2: to the mortgage broker, filled something out. This bitch turned
Speaker 2: around and said, you know, there's a tea and mortgage.
Speaker 2: I said it is.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry say it.
Speaker 2: I forgot. I forgot.
Speaker 1: It's not okay, that's the test. You can't have it
Speaker 1: if you can't spell it. Living in the same apartment
Speaker 1: for twenty five years in New York City rent control Like, yeah, Peppermints.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's been in the same apartment for twenty five
Speaker 2: which is like so sweet. I mean, nothing, says All
Speaker 2: Black reboot of Friends then that, because wasn't that Monica
Speaker 2: is grandm mama's apartment?
Speaker 1: Was that? I think it was Monica?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was Monica's Monica Monica's grandma apartment.
Speaker 2: Which words Okay, I'll try, yeah, I'll try.
Speaker 1: No, No, it was Monica's grandma's apartment. That's a lot
Speaker 1: of that's a lot like, that's a lot of.
Speaker 2: You try you guys, try it right now, stay with me.
Speaker 2: The red, leather, yellow Monica's Grandma's apartment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait to hear more from Peppermint's World.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed the sit down. The part about Christopher
Speaker 1: Ruffo was really cool too. You know, Peppermint understands what
Speaker 1: we're all up against, and it's not just like shows.
Speaker 1: For Peppermint. It was really great to get down and
Speaker 1: chop it up about what we're facing as a country.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's amazing. She's such a gift. I'm so glad
Speaker 2: that she was able to do my show. And uh, look,
Speaker 2: all these all these voices are important, you know. That's
Speaker 2: why art and music and entertainment, it definitely influences not
Speaker 2: only the culture, right, the culture will influence so much more.
Speaker 2: Do you think Martha Stewart knew what bling bling was?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Has she made it?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I mean. But it's like all
Speaker 2: that shit, Like, yeah, the world is smaller than we think,
Speaker 2: so let's stop dividing people. Sarah Huckabe Sanders, I'm talking
Speaker 2: to you. Sorry, you're full of.
Speaker 1: Fun today, all right? No, I just loathe her, that's why.
Speaker 2: Oh the whole family and you can quote me. Well,
Speaker 2: you guys have a great day listening.
Speaker 1: Get out there, be all you can be.
Speaker 2: Yes, quick little announcement before we go. We're taking a
Speaker 2: summer break, and we didn't want to ghost y'all, like
Speaker 2: all those people you've been encountering on them dating apps.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's right. We are good people who just want
Speaker 1: to soak up some sun adulting. We'll be back in
Speaker 1: August and fun update. When we get back, we will
Speaker 1: have episodes. It's dropping every single weee.
Speaker 2: So go take a vacation. Okay, take your bro off,
Speaker 2: get ready and we will see you soon. That's really
Speaker 2: all I got.
Speaker 1: I gotta go.
Speaker 2: I love you bye.
Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 2: Our senior producer is g Holley.
Speaker 1: Our associate producer is Alex Cheat.
Speaker 2: This episode was mixed by John Bradley.
Speaker 1: Our guest booker is Patrick Cottner.
Speaker 2: Additional production support from Hannah Kyle Crichton.
Speaker 1: Theme song and live show DJing is by Don will.
Speaker 2: Our live show producer is Marion Ways.
Speaker 1: Artwork by Jamie Bechtel.
Speaker 2: Photography by Heis vander Most.
Speaker 1: Executive produced by Karen Kilgera, Georgia Hartstar and Daniel Kramer.
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