1 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spafford, joined as always 3 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: by my trust in colleague Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: you hear from our studios at Lambeufield to talk about Wes. 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: A very uplifting victory by the Packers in Week two 6 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: in the home opener, sixteen to ten was the final 7 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: score over the Indianapolis Colts. And I'll just start by 8 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: saying this. When you're taking the field with a backup 9 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: quarterback and you're talking about a victory, and one of 10 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: the first things that comes to mind is the game 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: was actually kind of closer than it should have been. 12 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: A team that won the game really did something right. 13 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: They sure did, and this was one of the I 14 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: think finest coaching jobs at Laflor and his staff have done. 15 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: I agree, this was one of the most well executed 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 2: game plans that I think I've witnessed during my time 17 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: on the beat. And while there were some mistakes, it 18 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: was not completely a clean football game. This Green Bay 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: Packers team played well enough that those didn't even factor 20 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: into the overall outcome of the game. They took the 21 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: ball away, They dominated time of possession. They ran the 22 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: ball at an historic rate, more than they have in 23 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: the last forty six years in a game. Oh and then, 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: by the way, Malik Willis, who has been a Green 25 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: Bay Packer now for all of three weeks, comes in 26 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: manages the game plan, and then in the second half, 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: when the Indianapolis Colts make some adjustments, he makes some 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: big time throws on his own to be able to 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: continue to push this pace for the Packers. This was 30 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: one of the most complete overall victories that I think 31 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: I've witnessed during my time on the beat, and the 32 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers did it without Jordan Love on the field. 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. The level of set satisfaction. I mentioned this an 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: insider inbox. The level of satisfaction, the thrill that a 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: coaching staff and the players for that matter, must feel 36 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: when when a game plan is executed so well right 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: out of the gate and is so successful for such 38 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: a large part of the game that you never have 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: to deviate from it, You never really have to turn 40 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: the page to play and b or anything. I mean, 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: the Packers came into this game wanting to run the ball. 42 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: They ended up running it fifty three times for two 43 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty one yards. As you said, historic in 44 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: the sense of the fifty three carries the most since 45 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, I believe in a game, and the 46 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty one yards the most in about 47 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: twenty years or so. But they never they never had to, 48 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: they never had to really go to an alternative game 49 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: plan because it was working so well and it created 50 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: that massive time of possession advantage, more than twenty minutes, 51 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: almost twenty and a half minutes advantage in time of possession. 52 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: And quite frankly I mentioned this in the column as well. 53 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: The only thing that kept the Indianapolis Colts in the 54 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: game was when Josh Jacobs fumbled at the goal line 55 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: as the Packers are headed in to go up seventeen 56 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: to nothing on their third offensive possession. That doesn't happen. 57 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: It stays ten to nothing, and you know, the game 58 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: the Packers never really put. 59 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 2: The game away. 60 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was that was really the one most 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: regrettable mistake. But hats off to Josh Jacobs man, I 62 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, the fumble is unfortunate. He knows it 63 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: can't happen, but eighty five degrees out there at lambeau Field. 64 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: He toted that rock thirty two times for one hundred 65 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: and fifty one yards. You talk about call it belcow, 66 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: call it workhorse, you know, whatever phrase you want to use. 67 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: As far as what Josh Jacobs meant to this offense 68 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: on Sunday, the fumble is really too bad because otherwise 69 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: we'd be talking about an all time great performance by 70 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: a Green Bay Packers running back. 71 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would actually be thinking too, a man, 72 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: if they do end up punching that ball in there 73 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: and go up seventeen to nothing, where that game could 74 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: have potentially oh on at that point, because that might 75 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: have actually been the backbreaker for the Colts. I think 76 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: that actually gave them back a little bit of momentum, 77 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: and obviously they put up some points after that. All 78 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: that being said, Mike, the fact that Josh Jacobs, and 79 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: he's proven it several times, this wasn't even his career high. 80 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: He had a thirty three carry game during his time 81 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: with the Raiders in twenty twenty two. But the fact 82 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: that he put himself physically in a position to be 83 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: able to do that after there were a couple injury 84 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: things during camp. There was another injury thing at the 85 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: start of the season, but was able to manage himself 86 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: and stay out there and be as explosive as he 87 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: was in that game plan. Again, it reminded me of 88 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: my days covering high school football in that a lot 89 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: of times there wasn't a lot of throwing going on 90 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 2: in the Northeastern Wisconsin football So what you would do 91 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: is you have to get creative with your schemes. You 92 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: have to give them different looks. The Green Bay Packers 93 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: built multiple looks off of all of their runs, whether 94 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: it was getting Jaden Reid involved now in that pony package, 95 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: he's back there alongside Josh Shacops. Read even said that 96 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: was probably the most running back he's played since high school. 97 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: In that game, you had Bo Melton using his speed 98 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: on a reverse. You had so many different things that 99 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: were built off of what Josh Shacops did. But at 100 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: the end of the day, if you don't block the 101 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: way the Packers blocked, and Jacobs doesn't have the vision 102 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: that he has where he could take a two yard 103 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: run and turn it into a thirty four yard bust. 104 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it was incredible to watch seeing his jump 105 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: style and some of the things that he does well, 106 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: it was a premium performance out of him, and when 107 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers went out there and they invested 108 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: that money into him, this is exactly what they were 109 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: thinking about a game where it needed to be on 110 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: his shoulders. 111 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacob's vision and footwork are impressive to watch, especially 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: watching from up in the press box where we get 113 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: a wider view. We get a broader view of the 114 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: field than the folks watching on TV. He always sees 115 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: where the space is and then it's a matter of 116 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: it's a matter of some really really nifty quick footwork 117 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: to be able to get himself to get his body 118 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: in position to hit that space, and then he's able 119 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: to hit it with some force because because of the acceleration. 120 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: It was really it was really fun to watch and 121 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: hopefully thirty two carries on an eighty five degree day 122 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: in week two didn't wear them out too much, because 123 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: the Packers are certainly going to would love to see 124 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: more performances like that. But you hinted at it as 125 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: well talking about some of the other guys the Packers. 126 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: What turned out to be the Packers only touchdown drive 127 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: of this game. Six different people, including quarterback Malik Willis, 128 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: had rushing attempts on one touchdown drive six different guys. 129 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: There was a mentality that the Packers were going to 130 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: come in and run it, and you know the old 131 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson saying, everybody's got a plan until they get 132 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: punched in the mouth right. Well, quite frankly, the Indianapolis 133 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: Colts never threw a punch because the Packers defense then 134 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: kept the Colts out of the kept him off the 135 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: scoreboard for the first forty minutes of the game, kept 136 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: him out of the end zone for the first fifty 137 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: eight minutes of the game. Unfortunately, it did come down 138 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: to a hail mary. The Colts got a shot at 139 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: a hail mary after scoring a touchdown, getting the ball 140 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: back one last time and then actually making their way 141 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: out close to midfield where they had a shot of 142 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: the hail mary, and then Evan Williams gets the interception 143 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: for the third takeaway to seal the game. But other 144 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: than you know, nitpicking here and there, you couldn't have 145 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: asked for this game to go any better for the 146 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: Packers with it being not only Malik Willis's first start 147 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: in place of Jordan Loven. We'll see if that has 148 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: to happen again. But the fact that that Willis had 149 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: just walked into the building less than three weeks ago 150 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: and has been you know, I mean, call it, you know, 151 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: cram session, crash course, whatever you want to say, in 152 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: terms of trying to learn what he can of the 153 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: basics of the offense and then digest a game plan, 154 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, to get ready to take on somebody for 155 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: real right away in week two with Jordan Love being injured. 156 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: There was a lot that went into this victory. And 157 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: the Packers don't get to celebrated anymore. It's onto the 158 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans right after twenty four hours. But there's a 159 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: lot to be proud of what they accomplished on Sunday well. 160 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: And you can even hear it in Matt Lafleur's voice 161 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: and in his words after the game. You know, he 162 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: talked for eighteen minutes or whatever it was, and just 163 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: the excitement and just the effusive praise that he showered 164 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: on Willis. To be able to handle everything the Green 165 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: Bay Packers were throwing at him and to be able 166 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: to manage that out on the field. It's one thing 167 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: to be able to sit in the classroom and to 168 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: learn the playbook and understand what the checks and the 169 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: motions and everything are going to be. It's another thing 170 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: when you're out there and all that stuff has to happen. 171 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: You need to have that, you know, that's energy between 172 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: all the positions. And I can't say enough about Wilson. 173 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: I thought the cool thing about it was after he 174 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: only had twenty five passing yards in the first half, 175 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: the second half, he was able to flash the arm 176 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: a little bit. He was able to put the ball 177 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: out there to allow his receivers to make plays. And 178 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: that's the exciting thing. I think this young man showed 179 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: in this matchup that there's still a lot of potential here. 180 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: Whatever happened in Tennessee happened. Now he's a Green Bay Packer. 181 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: Now he's the backup quarterback. In his disposition, it mirrors 182 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: so closely to Jordan Love and that he's a leader. 183 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: People rally to him. But he's not a bombastic personality. 184 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: He's very straightforward and he said it himself at his 185 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: postgame press conference. It was going to be everybody pulling 186 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: together to find a way to win this game. They 187 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: did exactly that. I thought. Adam Stenovich, Matt Lafleur, Tom clements, 188 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: the whole group being able to build this thing around 189 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: him and allow him to get comfortable. If it is 190 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: Malik willis going up against his former team this upcoming weekend, 191 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: he is going to be a better quarterback in that 192 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 2: game because everything that happened in that matchup against the Titans, 193 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: and the last thing I will just quickly say here, 194 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: this thing does not happen the way it happened. If 195 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: two things don't happen, the Packers stay in positive down 196 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: in distance, no negative yardage plays, you are not going 197 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 2: to be able to implement a run heavy game plan 198 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: if you're going to be pushed back. It happened once 199 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: in that game, a holding penalty brought it back to 200 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 2: first and twenty and Josh Jacobs broke a thirty four 201 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: yard game to get it right back. Yep, it does 202 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: not work that way in the National Football League, but 203 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: it happened there. The right breaks happen. But conversely, Mike, defensively, 204 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: there is so much selflessness that happened on that side 205 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: of the ball. Understanding, after everything that happened against Jalen Hurts, 206 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: they weren't able to pin their ears back like we 207 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 2: were talking about. They had to implement a very similar 208 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 2: pass rush plan. The guys did that. And while you 209 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: still have some stuff to clean up with the run 210 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: defense and some of the explosive plays, that was a 211 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 2: very dangerous live opponent you were facing. And Anthony Richardson 212 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: can go off at any time, just ask the Houston Texans. 213 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: The Green Bay Packers defense didn't allow him to do that. 214 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, one last quick note on Willis. He was only 215 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: asked to throw the ball fourteen times, twelve completions, only 216 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: two incompletions, never put a ball in harm's way by 217 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: any stretch. All the all of the fakes and the 218 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: handoffs and the motions and all that, he handled all 219 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: of it with a blomb. And as you said, some 220 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: key third down throws the you know third and five 221 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: I believe it was, and he gets the one on 222 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: one coverage outside with Romeo Dobbs puts it up there, 223 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: gives eighty seven a chance to make the play and 224 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: Dobbs makes a fantastic catch, another clutch. Third down, he 225 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: hits Tucker Kraft where Craft is you know, blocking his 226 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: butt off all game long, and then he finally gets 227 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: that opportunity to you know, fake the block, get out 228 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: there in the route and then boom, Willis puts it 229 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: right on him converts a big third down that leads 230 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: to some points there. So Willis did everything he had 231 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: to do with regard to the defense, as you said 232 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: it was they had to they had to approach the 233 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: quarterback the same way or a very similar way that 234 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: they did against Philly with Anthony Richardson in his running ability. 235 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: The bottom line is, yes, the Packers only have what 236 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: is it, three sacks defensively through the first two games, 237 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: but two dual threat quarterbacks in Jalen Hurts and Anthony 238 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: Richardson have combined for I believe seventy rushing yards in 239 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: those two games. 240 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: If you're the. 241 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: Packers' defense, you take that because those guys didn't hurt 242 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: you with their legs, and quite frankly, it wasn't until 243 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: that last on the final final drive, the scramble up 244 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: the sideline where Richardson got you know, twenty twenty yards 245 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: or twenty one yards whatever it was, that he even 246 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: got over twenty yards rushing in the game because the 247 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: Packers stayed disciplined enough up front where they weren't worried 248 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: about getting the sacks They're running a lot of stunts, 249 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, the ends and the defensive tackles. They're running 250 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: a lot of stunts play after but it's running stunts 251 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: and staying in the rushing lanes, not running stunts to go, 252 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, with total abandon after the quarterback. And it 253 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: takes a lot of discipline to be able to play 254 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: that way, and they and they did that. The other 255 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: guy that we have to talk about on defense, and 256 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: we talked about him in training camp, but I want 257 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: to make reference to something that we had talked about 258 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: back then, but veteran linebacker Eric Wilson man eight snaps. 259 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: The guy got eight defensive snaps in this game. And 260 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: he forces a fumble over by the sideline, which unfortunately 261 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: then was knocked out of bounds and the Packers didn't 262 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: really have a shot to recover it. He is in 263 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: there for a third and one, a key third and one. 264 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: It's actually the first play of the fourth quarter, and 265 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: the Colts kind of get tricky with a little option 266 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: look that they hadn't shown all game long. It wasn't 267 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor was trace sermon in the back field. Eric 268 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: Wilson plays it absolutely perfectly, plays it expertly, and helps 269 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: to string out that option play and the other teammates 270 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: kind of rally there and the Packers get a big 271 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: stop which which actually becomes a tackle for loss by 272 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: Xavier McKinney, and then the missfield goal and then lo 273 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: and behold. Eric Wilson also gets an interception on a 274 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: slanter and in cut whatever you want to call it, 275 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: you can't do much more on defense in eight snaps 276 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: than what Eric Wilson did in this game on. 277 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: Some and that interception was one of the very few, 278 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: maybe the ten plays where Greevey was actually playing base 279 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: defense and he gets matched up with Michael Pittman Junior, 280 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: and he even said, I've asked him about that in 281 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: the locker room afterwards, and he said, you know, you 282 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: know you're up against skill, and you know you got 283 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: to hang in there and being able to keep the 284 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: inside leverage. It was a bad mistake by Richardson. It's 285 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: a bad decision by Richardson. 286 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: He probably, I think when I looked at it on 287 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: the film, I think he thought Wilson was going to 288 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: peel off into the flat yep and then that that 289 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, slant or the seam there with Pittman was 290 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: going to be open, but Wilson stuck with Pittman and 291 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: Richardson had already decided that's where he was going with 292 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: the ball, and he threw a pass that he never 293 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: should have thrown. 294 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: And the part that impressed me was Eric caught that ball. Yeah, 295 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: there is nothing about Anthony Richardson. When he throws the ball. 296 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: He gets every ounce of velocity out of that football. 297 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: I mean, he throws it hard, and you can see 298 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: why this guy is going to be a real dangerous threat, 299 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: I think in no short time here in the National 300 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: Football League because his arm talent mixed with the fact 301 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: he's a six foot three, two hundred and forty four 302 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: pound athlete, I get it. But the thing is that 303 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: why I really like the pass rush plan going back 304 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: to that, he does not have Jalen Hurts his accuracy. 305 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: He is a bit more scattershot in that. The Green 306 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: Bay Packers had the right plan to approach both Hurts 307 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: and Richardson. The only difference was it was more about 308 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: managing risk in plays with Hurts as opposed to Richardson. 309 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: That was the way you need to attack him because 310 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: you need to make sure that he can't escape the pocket. 311 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 2: To create big plays. That's where Houston really came up 312 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: short when they ruptured for those five or excuse me, 313 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: those three fifty yard connections that almost won the Colts 314 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: the game in the opener. 315 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 316 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: Bringing it all back around, though, Michael, to Wilson, he 317 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: is the type of player that you need on your 318 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: team to win championships because it can't all be ten 319 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: million dollars fifteen million dollar linebackers and guys that are 320 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: gonna be You need role players, Guys that are leaders 321 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: on special teams, Guys that know the system and are 322 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: smart enough to be put themselves in a position to 323 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: make those plays, even if it is only eight snaps. 324 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: There's no warm up, there's no tune up. And I 325 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: had asked Wilson in the locker room about that Reid 326 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: option play, and what shows you his experience as an 327 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: eighth year player is that he said he was caught 328 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: off guard by he was surprised by it. He wasn't 329 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: expecting that when Richardson did it, but the base fundamentals 330 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: and the instincts in his head didn't allow him to 331 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: panic or sell out one particular way. 332 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: He looked like he was absolutely one hundred percent prepared 333 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: that that was the play that was coming at him. 334 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's somewhat stunning to actually hear him say 335 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: he was kind of caught off guard. But as you said, 336 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: it's about it's about fundamentals, it's about sticking to your rules. 337 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: It's about trusting what you know because you've played this 338 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: game for so long and played it at this level 339 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: in the NFL as long as he has. I'm reminded. 340 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: And this is why I remember bringing this up when 341 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: Eric Wilson was having such a good training camp this summer. 342 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: We're watching this guy going, he's going to be playing 343 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: snaps on defense. This isn't just going to be a 344 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: special teams guy this year. And I was reminded back 345 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: then and I am again now. The Giants game on 346 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football last year, Eric Wilson played one snap 347 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: on defense. It was a fourth and short by the 348 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: New York Giants, and he blew up the play. That 349 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: was the only snap, the only snap on defense he's 350 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: in the game, and he gets the fourth down stop. 351 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: There are very there, I mean count on less than 352 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: one hand guys in the league who can pull that off. 353 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: The Packers have one of them in their locker room, 354 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: and it's pretty special to watch. 355 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: And the fact that it all happened after he forced 356 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: a fumble to start everything, like the Packers don't recover it, 357 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: ball goes out of bound, right, But like Eric Wilson 358 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 2: was just he was making plays the entire time. They 359 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: played basically nickel this entire game. I think Isaiah McDuffie 360 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: played fifty to fifty six snaps. Obviously, Kaiy Walker was 361 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 2: out there for all of them. Both Wilson and Edgerrin 362 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: Cooper just got a handful of snaps and much like 363 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 2: Cooper did the week earlier, Wilson made each one of 364 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: them count. 365 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, if there's one one thing I would say 366 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: that pops up as a as a concern, in my opinion, 367 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: the biggest concern with the Packers defense through two games. 368 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: I know all the fans are talking about where the sacks, 369 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. We already explained that the issue that 370 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: the Packers defense really has to take a good hard 371 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: look at here moving forward is where they are against 372 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: the run. Because Saquon Barkley hunter nine yards, but we 373 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: had talked last week. One of those he busted off 374 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: a thirty four yarder. Other than that one play, they 375 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: let Barkley out of the gate. You know, they didn't 376 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: let Barkley dominate them. I mean, yes, the Eagles fed 377 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: him the ball quite a bit, but the Packers also 378 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: had quite a few really good stops on Saquon Barkley. 379 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: There was some back and forth, there's some give and 380 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: take there with Barkley, and then he had the one 381 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: big play that put him over one hundred yards. Jonathan 382 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: Taylor only got the ball twelve times as far as 383 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: handoffs in this game. Five of those west he ran 384 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: for sixteen plus out of twelve carries. So moving forward here, 385 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: the Packers have to look at where they are on 386 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: run defense, and Matt Lafleur he talked about it a 387 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: little bit at his Monday press conference where he felt 388 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: schematically position wise, on a few of those explosive runs 389 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: by Taylor, the Packers were right where they needed to be. 390 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 1: But then because somebody got over ancient and just you know, 391 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: peeked into the wrong gap or kind of took themselves 392 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: out of position rather than just be patient and to 393 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: hold the point and do your job, then that's how 394 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: Taylor is able to sneak through there. And credit to 395 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. He's one of the best out there. He 396 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: does that to a lot of teams. But it is 397 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: something I think the Packers have to look at here 398 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: because through two games there are definitely some questions, what's 399 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: going on against the. 400 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: Wrong Yeah, and I was under no disillusion that Jonathan 401 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: Taylor was going to have the same performance he had 402 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: against the Texans when I think he had maybe a 403 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: long carry of like seventy yards. Yeah, I mean, he 404 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: didn't really get going at all. I figured he'd break 405 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: a couple. He broke too many, is what the issue 406 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: was in this game. Now, Thankfully for the Packer's sake, 407 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: it wasn't like there was a sixty yard touchdown run 408 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: every single time they responded to it. Big reason why 409 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: they shut them out in the first half was not 410 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: allowing Taylor to continue to string those up against them. 411 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: You and I were mentioning it in the press box. 412 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 2: I mean, for him to be as successful as he was, 413 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 2: but then only to rush at twelve times tells you 414 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: two things. One, Green Bay did get some stops in 415 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: there that made him feel not as good about running 416 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 2: it on second and long or third and long. In 417 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: two they were able to knock them out of their 418 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: rhythm because you want to also get Anthony Richardson going, 419 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: and they didn't allow them to do that a passing 420 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: game or even with Richardson scrambling. But the challenge is 421 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 2: still there, and they're going to take on a Tennessee 422 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: offense here that has not done a lot right so far. 423 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 2: But they've ran the ball okay to this point, even 424 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: though they're making this transition without Derrick Henry. 425 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, they're making a goal of it with Pollard. 426 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: They are getting picking up Tony Pollard from the Dallas Cowboys. 427 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: It's a different style of running game than Tennessee's had 428 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: compared to Derrick Henry obviously, but you know, the way 429 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: things are going. We'll talk more about it on our 430 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: next show with the Titans, But the way things are 431 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: going with Will Levis at quarterback, I think the Titans 432 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: are going to start leaning on their running game even more. 433 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Packers are probably gonna have to show 434 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 2: a little bit more of their base in this one too, 435 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 2: But again that's neither here nor there at the moment 436 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: as far as this game was concerned. It's tough, Michael, 437 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: because I think it just goes back to show you 438 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: when you establish the run and you set up intention. 439 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: I Dreenbay Packers rush for I believe it was one 440 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty four yards in the first quarter, which 441 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: was the most that they've generated in any quarter since 442 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty five against the Saint Louis Cardinals. They came 443 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 2: out hard, fast and often, whereas Indianapolis they had some 444 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: really nice runs with Taylor, but just didn't push the 445 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: button on it up. 446 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they could, they couldn't sustain it. I mean that's 447 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: to the Packers credit. 448 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: I thought. 449 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: Defensively, for the explosives the Packers gave up, I thought 450 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: they responded to giving up those explosives and they stemmed 451 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: the tide, which is, you know, the big plays are 452 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: going to happen. I mean, it's an offense oriented league. 453 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: Nobody just you can't just go out and shut anybody 454 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: down if you can, you don't want to give up 455 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: the big plays, But then when you do, can you 456 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: respond to them. That was the biggest positive in this one, 457 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: other than takeaways, of course, the biggest positive in this one, 458 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: I thought for the Packers defense was the way they 459 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: responded to the explosive plays. Because it kept that point 460 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: total for the Colts down. 461 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 2: And what I'll bring it back to at the end 462 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: of the day was, if you had to eliminate one 463 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 2: explosive threat from this game, I still would argue that 464 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: Richardson was the one you needed to do. The problem 465 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 2: is is that when you had the issues you had 466 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 2: in the second half against Barclay and you gave up 467 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: as many as explosives on the ground as you did 468 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: to Jonathan Taylor, you put that on film, teams are 469 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: going to look to exploit it, and that's where Green 470 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: Bay needs to find the response. 471 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: Well, and that's what the Colts are going to be 472 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: facing too. But we're not doing Colts unscripted here, man. 473 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: They don't. They've given up four hundred and seventy some 474 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: rushing yards in two games, and absolutely every team they 475 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: face is going to try to run the ball down 476 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: their throat until they can stop it. 477 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: It was wild. I tweeted this out and the game 478 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: moved so fast, so you go past it. But at 479 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: one point in the second quarter, I believe it was 480 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: with eight minutes ago, the Packers already had as many 481 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: rushing yards with eight minutes left in the first half 482 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirteen as the Colts had allowed in 483 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: Week one, and that was the most that was allowed 484 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: in Week one in an entire game. Yeah, so yeah, 485 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: as far as the statistics go, there's a lot of 486 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: football left to be played. But the Colts in terms 487 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: of where it's gonna be tough to be ranked number 488 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: one and run defense this year after those two games. Yeh. 489 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely. A couple quick thoughts on special teams before we 490 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: shift gears. Daniel wheel and the Packers punter. What a 491 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: weapon he is turning into. He only had to punt 492 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: the ball three times in this game, but those three 493 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: punts he averaged a forty six yard net no return 494 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: yards whatsoever for the Colts on the three punts, and 495 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: those three punts pinned the Colts at their own sixteen, 496 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: eight and five yard lines. You almost can't have a 497 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: better day as a punter than that. And when the 498 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: Packers do have to punt, this young man, Daniel Wheelan 499 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: is putting the Packers defense yep, good position. He is 500 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: really helping the field position situation with regard to with 501 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: regard to what Jeff Hafley's crew gets to start with. 502 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 2: And if I remember right from my story that I 503 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: wrote on our website forty eight hours ago. I believe 504 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: the Colts did not generate any points off of anything 505 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: that came off the foot of Daniel Wheelan. 506 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: They did not those three drives that started at the sixteen, 507 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: the eight, and the five. There were no points scored 508 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: at the end of any of those three drives. 509 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 2: And there was not one more important than him pinning 510 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: them back at their own five at the end of 511 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: that game. Because Packers did the right thing, they forced 512 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: them to burn their timeouts, they were able to drain 513 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: the clock down. I believe it was forty eight seconds. 514 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: But Indianapolis had a chance, and with that arm, you 515 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 2: basically just need to get to midfield and you're going 516 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: to get an opportunity. He put them back at the five. 517 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 2: That's what allowed for a little bit of a rupture 518 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: there with the twenty one yard scamper by Richardson did 519 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 2: not really hurt you that much. They still had to 520 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: throw again after that to try to get a little 521 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: bit closer for a hail. Mary. Be that as it may. Again, 522 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: bringing back to that conversation I had with Eric Wilson 523 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: talking to him about Daniel Wheelan, the kid has a long, 524 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: powerful leg, and he's learned how to use it. It's 525 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 2: not just about the gross yardage on it. It's about 526 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 2: being able to do the Aussie style kicks and directionally 527 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: kick it when you're trying to pin him back inside 528 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: the twenty. The one that bounced out at the seven, 529 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 2: that was done strictly by him. That was it bouncing 530 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: inbounds and then going out of bounce without a return 531 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 2: on it. Daniel Wheelan has shown a lot of to 532 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: nests too for as much power as he has. And 533 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers have been looking for a punter 534 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: for a long time. Mike. It's been throughout my entire 535 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: time covering this team. They've been trying to settle on 536 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: a guy. Daniel Whelan looks like somebod who can hitch 537 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: the wagon to here for a decade. 538 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: And we'd be talking about an absolute textbook way to 539 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: close out a game with your other two phases with 540 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: the punt to the five. If Kuay Walker catches the 541 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: interception that Richardson throws right basically right at his face 542 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: mask on the first play of that drive from the 543 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: five yard line, and not only did Walker miss it, 544 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: but it got deflected and the Colts caught it and 545 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: then set up to scramble in up getting the hail 546 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: Mary shot and quay walker. As Matt Lafleur said, he's 547 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: kind of sick about not being able to put the 548 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: game away there because that should have been takeaway number 549 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: three that moment. It ended up happening on the hail Mary. 550 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: Braden Narvis and the rookie kicker. Second game in a row, 551 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: he goes three for four on field goals. Miss is 552 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: one that that was kind of important. It would have 553 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: given the Packers a sixteen point lead. If he makes 554 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: that and you're up by sixteen at that stage of 555 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, absolute worst case scenario, you're looking at overtime. 556 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: If the other team's two touchdowns and gets two two 557 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: point conversions by the end of regulation, worst case scenario, 558 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: you're looking at overtime. And unfortunately he wasn't able to 559 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: make that one. Matt Leffuur said, Hey, you know, you 560 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: can ask Brian Gudokunst about, you know, the patience thing 561 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: from the personnel side of things, From the coaching side 562 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: of things, They're willing to be patient. They like what 563 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: they have in Narvis, and we'll see what happens. I 564 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: think it's important to remind people. I'm going to remind 565 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: them again. An Insider inbox later this week, Andras Carlson 566 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: started his NFL career not missing a single kick for 567 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: five straight games, and everybody thought, oh, Packers are all set, 568 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: they found their kicker. This is great. Well, my point 569 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: is just don't rush to judgment on Braden Narvison. Yes, 570 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: he's missed two kicks forty five yards an inn that 571 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: he should make, that he knows he should make through 572 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: the first two games. But you know, let's let's just 573 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: see what happens here because because things didn't work out 574 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: with Carlson when everything started great, so let's see how 575 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: Narvison works through some of these things to hopefully get 576 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: where he wants to be in where the Packers want him. 577 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you got to remember the green bit 578 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: Packers went through, Mike. I want to say it was 579 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: six or seven kickers throughout camp when you talk about 580 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 2: all those number three guys they brought in, and obviously 581 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: Alex Hale is still with them now on the practice 582 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: squad under the international exemption, they re shuffled the deck 583 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: on that position. Enough training camp ended they placed the 584 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: waiver claim on Narvisen. He's the guy. He's the guy 585 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: they went with, and I think, barring a disaster, which 586 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: is what you have to curb against, not missing one 587 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: but missing several, I feel like you got to let 588 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: this young guy develop and you do have to have 589 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: that patience. I go back to what Brian Goodigun said. 590 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: I still wish he would have given himself a little 591 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: bit more grace on that because he talked about JK 592 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: Scott and j K Scott's an NFL punter and he's fine. 593 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: But Daniel Wheeland, in my estimation, is a better punter 594 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: than JK Scott. I think Corey Bjorquez is a better 595 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: punter than JK Scott. His issue was was more of 596 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: the holding side of things, where it was kind of 597 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: disrupting stuff right. I think he got to where they 598 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: needed to get to. 599 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: I agree that Goody needs to cut himself some slack 600 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: when he criticized himself about the lack of patients with 601 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: special he gave JK Scott three seasons here. It's not 602 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: it's not like you know. I mean, let's let's be 603 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: let's be real about it. There are things about the 604 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: climate you know there are there are difficulties when you're 605 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: kicking in Lambeau Field, in Soldier Field, in uh you know, 606 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: at certain times of the year. And and credit to JK. Scott, 607 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: he is he's gotten his career back on a better track. 608 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: He's also kicking out in LA. He doesn't he doesn't 609 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: have he doesn't have the same some of the same 610 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: circumstances that specialists have to deal with. Here in Green Bay. 611 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: There was probably and it didn't even affect it wasn't 612 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: even a part of Brian Goudakun's tenure, I don't believe. 613 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: But the only time I ever really took an issue 614 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: with anything the Packers did was when they went with 615 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: Rick Levado throughout the playoffs, had him throughout training camp, 616 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: and then cut him at the end of camp and 617 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: brought back Brett good after he was injured. I think 618 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: if you to take the more long term approach at 619 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: that point, because Gooda ended up only playing I think 620 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: one more year after that, it probably would have been 621 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: a more salient thing to just stick with Levado, who's 622 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: been now the Eagles long snapper for the last seven years. 623 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: That's the one I kind of would go back and 624 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: say Okay, I understand that, but again, that didn't even 625 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: have anything to do with Brian, so be that as 626 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: it made. The Packers seemed to have found a kicker. 627 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: Because I'll say this too, and will be my last 628 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 2: point on this, Andres Carlson made his first every kick 629 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: in his first five games. The ball did not come 630 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: off Anders Carlson's foot the way it comes off of 631 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: Brandon Narvous. 632 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you, totally. That's just the eye test. 633 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: That's the eye test. His forty six yarder that he made, Michael, 634 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: that would have been good from you and I were 635 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: watching it in the game. 636 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: Yep. 637 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: It's just about now the coaching standpoint of it, and 638 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: that's where Byron Storer and Richard Pasacchi, they'll they'll work 639 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: with the guy on that. But in terms of the 640 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: leg talent here, this guy's not missing a forty five 641 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: or forty three yard field goal because he doesn't have 642 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: the leg for it. He's got to get the trajectory 643 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: figured out. 644 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a little late here to get Yeah, get 645 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: us paid. It wasn't a so let's do this quickly. 646 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: Serious XMNFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to 647 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need twenty 648 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: four to seven, three sixty five And at Cousin Subs, 649 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: we have something for everyone, like our Wiscotts and cheese, Kurts, 650 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: mac and cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, all paired 651 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: with your favorite sub or submon a bowl. Cousin Subs 652 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: fifty plus years of better. All right, real quickly, west 653 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: before we go, taking a look around the league after 654 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: two weeks, Just as we all predicted, the Vikings, Steelers, Saints, Buccaneers, 655 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: and Seahawks are all two and zero and the Bengals, Jaguars, Rams, 656 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: and Ravens are all zero to two. Welcome to the NFL, 657 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: and like, hold on because here we go. 658 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 2: Never apologize for a victory in this league. Never do it, 659 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: because the Baltimore Ravens could just as easily be two 660 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: and oh right now as a hundred. Yeah. I mean, 661 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 2: that's the thing. You got to win the game that's 662 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: in front of you. They almost beat the reigning Super 663 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: Bowl champions in Week one, and then they lost to 664 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders the following week. 665 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: Hey, the Philadelphia Eagles had had Scott van Pelt on 666 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: Monday night football teas and Sports Center talking about, you know, 667 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: going into the winning Eagles locker room and the two 668 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: and oh Philadelphia Eagles, and moments later, the Philadelphia Eagles 669 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: are one and one. They've coughed one up at home 670 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: in prime time in the last minute and a half. 671 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: I just you can never rest. There is no peace 672 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: whatsoever in this league. You play the game in front 673 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: of you, you pack up your stuff, and you get 674 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: ready to play again. That's all that this is. 675 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 2: And that was the other thing too, some of the 676 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 2: stories that were coming out of New York after the 677 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: game against Tennessee and that it wasn't a convincing enough 678 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: win and things like that. It's like, dude, Aaron Rodgers 679 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: just got back from the Achilles injury. He didn't play 680 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: for a year, right, and he just beat he got 681 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: a win. 682 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: Like, well, it's a win, and every and everybody's everybody's 683 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: dumping on Kirk Cousins in Atlanta after the loss to 684 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: the Steelers in Week one. Kirk Cousins is coming off 685 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: of an achilles and he's with a new team and 686 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: a whole brand new offense and everything. So I mean, 687 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 1: it's like, let's you know, but the instant judgment and 688 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: the instant analysis. It's it's like, yes, there are things 689 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: that there are things that you judge in the moment, 690 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: and you analyze those things in the moment, but you 691 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: don't have to draw conclusions with every single thing that 692 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: happens every week. The Cincinnati Bengals just took the Super 693 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: Bowl champs to the wire, and yes, I know there 694 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: are some questions about officiating this and that whatever, but 695 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals just gave the Champs everything they could handle. 696 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: But now the Bengals are sitting there at zero and 697 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 1: two and they've got some stuff figure out, so you know, 698 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that's the that's the way this 699 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: league goes. 700 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: And it was funny too the you and I talked 701 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: last week about Detroit in Tampa Bay and just the 702 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: ramifications of that matchup and end up being a good game, 703 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: competitive game. But now you're seeing with what it looks 704 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: like that the Buccaneers are going to be up against 705 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: against the New Orleans Saints in that division. That's why 706 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 2: games like that really matter. And I thought, bring it 707 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: back really quickly Aaron Rodgers. Again in his postgame press conference, 708 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 2: he made a really salient point, which is these are 709 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 2: the games, These are the type of wins you need 710 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: to have, because if you're going to be in the 711 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: run at the end of the season, obviously you need 712 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: to pick up wins throughout the course of the season. 713 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: But it's sometimes the difference between ten and seven in 714 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 2: nine and eight or nine and eight and eight nine, 715 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: it comes down to one of those down to the wire, 716 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: tight matchups in week two and to pick off as 717 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: many of those. I mean, the Packers were the number 718 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: one seed and got to thirteen wins in twenty nineteen 719 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: basically with that script. So the division bringing it back 720 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 2: quickly to the NFC North, looks like it will be competitive. 721 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 2: I think the Minnesota Vikings are feeling I think Kevin O'Connell, 722 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: you can just continually give him credit for how he's 723 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: rallied that team. And as you said last week, they're 724 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: gonna have to continue to get innovative with what they're 725 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: doing with Sam Darnold. They're gonna have to try to 726 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: stay ahead of that curve. But man, people believe, and 727 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: that team believes, and to be able to be in 728 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 2: a position to be two and ohero and I I 729 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: personally had them written and just kind of in sharpie 730 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: written down as the fourth team in this division this year. Yeah, 731 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 2: the Vikings are showing again. They're nobody's underdog. 732 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: Hey, if you can hit a if you can hit 733 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: a ninety seven yard touchdown pass against one of the 734 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: best defenses in the league, that'll play, you know. And 735 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: and the Vikings are the Vikings are not gonna go 736 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: away anytime soon. 737 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: And here's a big secret. Just give Justin Jefferson a 738 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 2: chance and you're probably gonna have good things happening. By 739 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 2: the way, too. Last thing I'll close on this, Uh, 740 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Jr. Green Miit Packers four weeks we're gonna 741 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: be talking about that matchup with the Cardinals. Marvin Nison 742 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 2: Harrison Junr. Is going to be a handful for the 743 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: National Football League this year. 744 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely he is. He is already proving that his 745 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: draft status was no joke for sure. So with that 746 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: we'll call it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 747 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 748 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 1: team on Packers dot com for wes I am Mike. 749 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in, everybody. We will see you 750 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: next time.