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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. Hey guys, welcome to the almost same

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Speaker 1: As podcast. We love you all, thanks for coming back

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Speaker 1: and listening to us. Um it's Ashley here and I

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Speaker 1: am joined by Ben. It's a special headlines only podcast today.

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Speaker 1: A ton of them and a couple of good juicy

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Speaker 1: ones like why, um, Tyler Cameron never became the Bachelor?

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Speaker 1: We have the answer to that. I'm pretty excited about that.

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Speaker 1: But first little host chat for you, Ben, how have

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Speaker 1: you been? What's up? It's snowing. It's May. It's May

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Speaker 1: second in Denver, Colorado. Um, it's snowing outside. We got

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Speaker 1: about an inch and a half of snow last evening,

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Speaker 1: woke up to that today. It hasn't melted yet. It's

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Speaker 1: actually still snowing as we speak. Okay, so fury here.

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Speaker 1: I feel like summer now doesn't start mentally until June.

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Speaker 1: But like back in the day, I felt like summer

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Speaker 1: kind of started in May. Well because in high school, yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't you get out at some point in May? Typically

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Speaker 1: in high school we would get out in mid June.

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Speaker 1: Did you really get out in May? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember. And then we would go back the

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Speaker 1: after Labor Day. Okay, well I think we had like

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Speaker 1: ten weeks off. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: just know this time of year, right, you're after spring break. Uh,

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Speaker 1: families have kind of taking their trip and you start

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Speaker 1: to wind down the school year. And so in my

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Speaker 1: same time like frame as when we got let out

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Speaker 1: of high school. That's why it's college, because you get

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Speaker 1: out of college like your finals week is like this week.

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Speaker 1: College is a big mystery to me. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember a lot of it. Um not even

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Speaker 1: that's not even like a reference to like over consumption.

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Speaker 1: It's just like it felt like it flew by. It's

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Speaker 1: like a big blur in my world. Like you, I

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Speaker 1: have way more memories from high school than I do

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Speaker 1: of college. Also not because of consumption, but for me,

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Speaker 1: it was grad school. I have most vivid memories of

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Speaker 1: grad school, one of my favorite years of life. And

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Speaker 1: I cannot believe I'm going on ten years since I

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Speaker 1: started grad school. That freaks me out. It also makes

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Speaker 1: you really sad that some people that were like very

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Speaker 1: impactful in my life, like I haven't seen in ten years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if I mean it flies by you an a young

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Speaker 1: pup no more. Ash, You know we ain't kids. Do

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Speaker 1: you know how often I talk about not being a

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Speaker 1: and she's twenty two, she's graduating mid May, and I

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Speaker 1: Like today, I was doing an Amazon i've and one

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Speaker 1: of those products that I had was these heels, and

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Speaker 1: and I was like, Maddie, these are like what's in today,

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Speaker 1: But wait, do you guys even wear heels anymore? And

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Speaker 1: Those are cute, but like for us millennials, that's all

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Speaker 1: So like skinny jeans. They think skinny jeans are juggy.

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Speaker 1: he's got hairy legs. Um, but it's not that weird.

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Speaker 1: exactly what it is. It's my hairline. It's not that bad. Um,

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Speaker 1: I do. Would you ever do anything about it? Would

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Speaker 1: I was at rock bottom. Okay, yeah, so that makes sense.

424
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: He's talking about his rock bottom. Ben was when we

425
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: basically interviewed him. That's that. Uh, it was probably like

426
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 1: right after our interview. Okay. Well, actually somebody came up

427
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: to me the other day and said that they loved

428
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: our interview with him and that we actually asked things

429
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: that people wanted to know. We weren't easy, whereas there

430
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: was some other interviews that he did where it was

431
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: like they were like almost two understanding. Well, I hope,

432
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean I hope it didn't cause I mean even

433
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: after the interviews, I hope we didn't actually make it

434
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: into rock bottom. No, not at all, not at all well,

435
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 1: after the interview was done, we got to talk to him,

436
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: and you know, we had questions on how this plays out.

437
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: Were like, hey, this too shall pass, and just you know,

438
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: stay moving forward and stay who you are, and I mean,

439
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 1: you know, I I felt like even afterwards, he was

440
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: in a tough spot, like he wasn't great. But we

441
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: got to talk to him and uh, yeah, I hope

442
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: the head you know, that didn't cause any more pain. Um,

443
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: and I did a little bit to two people that

444
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 1: had been there before. Yeah, he's had a horrible couple

445
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: of days having to do interviews and then when we

446
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: saw him, you weren't there. But we saw him a

447
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 1: week later and he felt much better. But anyway, so

448
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: he continues to say, I knew what was coming. I

449
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: realized my reality was much further from what I expected.

450
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: As I looked out the window. In the picture, he's

451
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: looking at the window. He questioned, who, who? Who am I? Um?

452
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: What had I become? Where did everything go wrong? Why? Me?

453
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: Six months prior, I was standing outside as the first

454
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: limo pulled up, kept thinking to myself how lucky I

455
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: was to be in this position as the bachelor. Six

456
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: months later, I'm staring out this window, wondering how much

457
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: worse things could get. But as I reflected back on

458
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: it all, now, since being out of the spotlight, I've

459
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: had the ability to see what I couldn't see before.

460
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: I was too busy trying to defend my actions and

461
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: my character instead of accepting full responsibility for not only

462
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: what I had done, but all those who I had hurt. Um,

463
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: that's like, I actually love this. I love that this.

464
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: We're getting this from him, he said. Um. He said

465
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: that people are often concerned with explaining themselves and that

466
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: prevents them from realizing the explanations sometimes hurt more than

467
00:25:54,880 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: the actions themselves. And he indicates that that when they

468
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: when you, when you say stuff like that, it indicates

469
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: that their excuses and nothing more than that. And he goes,

470
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: That's where I went wrong. I feel like I finally

471
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: learned my lesson. I hurt people. Sure, I didn't have

472
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: any intention in doing so. Um, I thought I was

473
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: doing what was best by following my heart. But I

474
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: still hurt people. So there's a lot more to this

475
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: caption if you guys are interested in going and reading

476
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: his post. But I actually think that this is really

477
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: awesome to hear from him it is. And I think

478
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: a lot of it too has to do with how

479
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: this played out, you know. I mean he's happy, and

480
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: it's very obvious that he's happy, and so if this

481
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: would have gone opposite direction, you know, maybe he isn't

482
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: as thankful for these lessons learned. But now he can

483
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,239
Speaker 1: look back and be like this maybe was all worth it,

484
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 1: Like even the pain of this could have been worth it. Yeah.

485
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not ideal and it's not fun to

486
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: go through. Most people that agree to be the lead

487
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: does go through a season that's not ideal. Uh, But

488
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: you just hope in the end that it was worth

489
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: the time spent. And I would look at this from

490
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 1: an outsider outsider's perspective, a fan perspective and say, hey, Clayton, like,

491
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: we remember when things weren't awesome with you and Susie.

492
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: Maybe that argument wasn't handled the best, but now you're

493
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: together and those things are kind of a distant memory

494
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: in my thought, and it's like, I'm just happy to

495
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: celebrate two of you now. I think that's how most

496
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: people feel. I don't think many people are probably like

497
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: just harping on him for a really poor communication that

498
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: he did without the girl that loves him and that

499
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: he loves like I you know, I just don't think

500
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: many people are. I'm sure there are some would there are,

501
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: but we think they're crazy. Yeah, it's like, hey, well

502
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 1: they've made it work over it. It's like if they

503
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: could get over it, you should probably get over it.

504
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: That would be a good way to say it. Well, um,

505
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: onto uh kind of different topics. We'll take a little

506
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: turn here. Jojo Fletcher and Jordan Rogers um have an

507
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: idea for a bachelor inspired wedding idea and he is

508
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: saying that it deserves a rose. Ashley, do you agree

509
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: that it deserves a rose? It does? And now I'm

510
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: jealous that we didn't do it at our wedding. Um,

511
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: she was. I think she's kind of joking, but she

512
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: said that there should be like an I T. M

513
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: Room and in the moment interview room where people can

514
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: go and just talk to the camera about like how

515
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: the wedding's going and just like their best wishes and

516
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: stuff for Jojo and Jordan's. But they would have like

517
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: a little room set up so that instead of people,

518
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, writing their best wishes in a wedding book

519
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: that you sign. They'd have a little message room, and

520
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: I think that's so cool. Yeah, that's a great idea.

521
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: I know how amazing would that be to go back

522
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: and watch that. Yeah, and then you have the wedding

523
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: like you know, the video from it, and the wedding

524
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: video is so fun the way it is, I know,

525
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: and then people could go in there like a little

526
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: tipsy during the cocktail hour the reception and just narrate

527
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: what's going on and being like, I love you guys black.

528
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like a photo booth, but you know,

529
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: video style. I love it so much. You guys should

530
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: totally do it, Jojo and Jordan. Don't just joke about it.

531
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: Definitely do it. She also talked about how the menu

532
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: for their wedding is going to be Italian inspired that

533
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: she's blown away during the tasting. Um also kind of

534
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: jealous that like it's like it, you know, an Italian menu,

535
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: because while our food was absolutely delightful and so so good,

536
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: it was still traditional, you know, like be fish. I

537
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: would have loved to have like a pasta. Maybe we

538
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: did have pasta for vegetarian. Well, Ben, you had a

539
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: whole damn buffet. Yeah, we didn't do a sit down dinner.

540
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: We did like grab and go sandwiches and pasta's and

541
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: chips and stuff like. We just kind of nobody ever

542
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: sat down for dinner unless they wanted to sit down

543
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: on one of the tables. So you know, those little

544
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: twists and different I would have done it. I would

545
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: have never done it differently. I loved that we just

546
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: kind of went right into the party. Uh. It made

547
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: the night more fun for Jess and I. But yeah,

548
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: um oh. Another thing that they're doing is kind of

549
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: like what we did. They have a string quartet that

550
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: will be playing classic, timeless and romantic music. Oh and

551
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: Jordan has an on site cigar roller that will be

552
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: having solid move love that move, good move by Jordan's

553
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: sounds good. Guys, have a great time. I know it's

554
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: coming up. You know they're gonna be Uh, they're gonna

555
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: have a blast. I know they both have done their

556
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: bachelor and bachelor parties. Sounds like they're on the home

557
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: stretch and we wish them the best well. Also wishing

558
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: the best to Vanessa Grimaldi, who is pregnant. She's expecting

559
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: baby number one with husband Joshua Wolfe Disaccording to US Weekly,

560
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: she went m I A from Instagram for like eight weeks.

561
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: I didn't notice, but then I was like, oh, you

562
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: have to go m I A because you were sick.

563
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the woes of pregnancy together. I have

564
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: not asked her, but you know, there's been lots of

565
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 1: congratulations from Bachelor Alam including of course me and Jared

566
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: were so happy for her. I'm sure Ben that you

567
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: said something, and he is going to be the best mom.

568
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: You know, she just has like those motherly nurturing vibes.

569
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: So so excited for them. It's, uh, it's really exciting

570
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: to see this kind of stuff play out, right. You know,

571
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: we've been a part of Vanessa's story since her time

572
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: on Nick season, and now we see it kind of

573
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: come full circle with Nick being happy and her being

574
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: happy and her being married and having a child. So

575
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: we're wishing them the best as they enter into this

576
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: season of life. Well, also something that's a really good news.

577
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: If you remember a few years ago we talked about

578
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: JP Rosenbaum had a illness that was causing him to

579
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: his body to not function well. It was similar to

580
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: kind of how a l S would function. You were

581
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: losing muscle function, You're having cramps and um. Well you know,

582
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: we've then found out that it was Julie Julian Barr syndrome. UM.

583
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: He is now saying he's back to normal, but he

584
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: says it was a life changing event. This according to

585
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: US Weekly as well. Was this that far far you know,

586
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: far back, were like recording in the studio in l A.

587
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: I remember like hearing this news and we're recording in

588
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: l A. But maybe I'm wrong. That was a long

589
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: time ago. Well, anyway, he's saying that was a very

590
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: traumatic experience. He said, it was life changing. I opening

591
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: and put things into perspective that life can take a

592
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: turn just like that. But after a couple of months

593
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: he went back to normal. Um. The illness causes the

594
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: immune system to react against the nervous system, which can

595
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: lead to paralysis and weakness, like Ben said, throughout the body. Uh,

596
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: it can become a chronic condition, he said, but fortunately

597
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those cases. The odds of me

598
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: getting it again are the same as me getting it

599
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: in the first place, so I guess the odds are

600
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: not necessarily high that he'll be getting it again. He

601
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: also says that he's been doing. You know, well since

602
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: it it's crazy. It came on within less than twenty

603
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: four hours, so it's just like a sudden here and

604
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: then you know, he recovered from it and hopefully won't

605
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: be getting it back. Um. He says. It was really,

606
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: really challenging. It took probably about two months to regain mobility.

607
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: That's wild. And you know him and actually are probably

608
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: having like marriage problems in the midst of all this too. Um.

609
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: He said. It was just a really humbling experience. He's

610
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: very fortunate to be making a full recovery, and it

611
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: has a lot to do with the fact that he

612
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: was diagnosed quickly and treated quickly, um, so that the

613
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: damage to his nerves were able to heal. He said.

614
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: A lot of people aren't that lucky. Yeah, yeah, Well,

615
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's back and uh, I'm glad that he's

616
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: fully functioning and feeling healthy and uh and ready for

617
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: this next season in life for him because he's got

618
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of new things on his horizon. Well,

619
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: let's take a break here, we come back. We have

620
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: some huge headlines to talk about. We're gonna talk about, uh,

621
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: the Senior Citizen Bachelor. Uh is it gonna happen or not?

622
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be hosting it? I wish it was me?

623
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: Maybe it is. I've been wanting that job for a

624
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, it's not me. Um, but that was

625
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: a good teaser. I thought it was a good teaser.

626
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: I totally blew it. I'm so sorry. It's okay, Ash, sure,

627
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: you know what if people are tuning in for to

628
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: find out I'm gonna be hosting that shure or not,

629
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: but I'm still not giving up. Here's okay. I thought

630
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: that it was done, like because there's been no movement

631
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: on it. So this is a good teaser in itself.

632
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: Is it actually happening? I think somebody asked me the

633
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: other day, They're like, I need this in my life,

634
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: like it will fulfill me. Yeah, is it actually happening?

635
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: Who could be? Also we'll talk about who could be

636
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: the lead of that senior show? Also why was Tyler

637
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: Cameron not the Bachelor? And then finally, Stage Coach happened

638
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: this weekend and it was full of well, um Bachelor

639
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: Nation people, I mean full of it. We're gonna talk

640
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: about who was there, what was happening? Uh? Right, when

641
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: we come back from this break on the almost famous

642
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: podcast m alright, Ashley, we talked about it, We handed

643
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: at it, the Bachelor who's hosting Paradise? Is Senior Citizens happening?

644
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: And could Bachelor Pad return this? According to Variety, it

645
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: was an article written, so let's start here, Ashley, Who's

646
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: hosting Paradise? That's the question to answer? First? Oh, well,

647
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: we don't know who's hosting Paradise, perfect, We have no clue.

648
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: Question was asked to the executives. Has not been announced you? Okay?

649
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: Onto the second question, is the Senior Citizens show happening? Okay?

650
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: So it says it's been teased for years. Obviously, the

651
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: pandemic slowed down development, but the Bachelor executives are still

652
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: hot on the idea. That doesn't sound like there's a

653
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: lot of movement going on. Still, the Senior Citizens show

654
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: is definitely going to happen at some point. Robert Mills,

655
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: who's you know, in charge of development at ABC, says

656
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: some point. The response to that show is so massive

657
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: that every time we put up a casting call, um,

658
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: it's just like like people are really wanting to apply

659
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: for it to happen. He says, for us, we really

660
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: feel a responsibility to find the right person to be

661
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: the senior Bachelor. So we're looking COVID put a major

662
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: wrinkle in everything. So now, um, we're back at looking

663
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 1: for it. The other question, the big question, Yeah, finally,

664
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: what's the big question? I guess the big question, Well,

665
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: I guess that was actually the biggest question, the bigest questions.

666
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. I guess the answer to that is

667
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: eventually maybe. See, I don't know. I still don't believe

668
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: them based on that response. Do you believe Robert Mills

669
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: On the response, it doesn't sound like at the top

670
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: of the agenda they're putting so much into a Bachelor

671
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: that I think it's kind of an excuse to say

672
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: that COVID put a wrinkle into it, because COVID didn't

673
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: put that much of a wrinkle into the main franchise.

674
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: We had like fifteen Bachelorette seasons. Yeah, but the older

675
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: demographic is a little bit more at risk for COVID,

676
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: and so I could imagine them staying away from it.

677
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen because I think it's such

678
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: a good idea. Um, again, that's part of my sales pitch.

679
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: I think it's such a good idea ABC that that, uh,

680
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna go really well. I think it's gonna be

681
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: really fun to watch, and so, um, I'm glad they're

682
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: early in development still on it, because that means I'm

683
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: still holding out hope that maybe I'll get the random

684
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: call from Los Angeles at ASER and they'll say, hey, Ben,

685
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: you know what, we looked around and there's just nobody

686
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: else that we want hosting the show other than you,

687
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: And I would say, I'm glad you finally came to

688
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: your senses, But that doesn't it's going to happen. Well, Ben,

689
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: it certainly doesn't sound like they have locked down the host,

690
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: so I'd say it's you gotta yeah, I gotta there

691
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: we go, Ash. I like your style, Okay. The only

692
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: thing is, like Ben, they probably would be like, this

693
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: guy is way too young to be hosting this show.

694
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: He's twenty something years younger than like the youngest person

695
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: on it. Yeah. Well, but I uh, I could teach

696
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: them how not to be choogy, and that would be

697
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: tight way to make the podcast full circle. Thank you

698
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: as well. The second question to the Senior Show is

699
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: could Gabby who is the current bachelorette or co bachelorette.

700
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: Could her grandfather be the senior bachelor? That was asked

701
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: as well to Mills, mm hmm, Well, he says, I

702
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: would be crazy to say that we didn't notice all

703
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: the affection and interest in Gabby's grandfathers, so you never know.

704
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: This is Rob Mills continuing to talk about the show.

705
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: He says, everyone wants to see him, see him find love.

706
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: Gabby's grandfather really gave the thesis of what the show

707
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: would be, which is that he found that great love

708
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: and we saw that he still wears his ring. Um,

709
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: so maybe he wouldn't be ready for something like this.

710
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: And then there's the question of if you have one

711
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: great love in your lifetime, can you have another. That's

712
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: really interesting. It's not something that we get to explore

713
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: on The Bachelor, He's also said. He also says, um

714
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: finding someone who has never been in love at an

715
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: older age could be interesting too. If we can find

716
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: the person and the story that allows us to answer

717
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: those that's one will do it. Okay. Again, still sounds

718
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: like it's so far in the future and we can

719
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 1: find the person who allows us to explore those storylines.

720
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: Every every person that is in their fifties, sixties, shoot,

721
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: even forties have those storylines. Every person, like life brings

722
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: about story. Some of it's beautiful, some of it's really hard,

723
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 1: but everybody has Like when you live long enough, you're

724
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: gonna have stories of triumph and pain and suffering and

725
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: joy all those things and so like, that's why I

726
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: think this show is so intriguing, because you get people

727
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: that are older onto a show where we get to

728
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: learn about them and hear about their stories. It's gonna

729
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: have a mixed bag, Like it's gonna be incredible to

730
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: hear of people who thought they could never love again

731
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: who are out there finding love. We're gonna hear about

732
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: the people who have never had love and they're in

733
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: their fifties, sixties, seventies and they're looking for love, hoping

734
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: for love. Like how how just incredible would it be

735
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: to be able to have an up close personal look

736
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: at these people's story. I mean, it would be so fun.

737
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm fun. And you know, Kebby's Crammit doesn't have to

738
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: be the lead. I would say, like I don't want

739
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: to be ages here, But Ben, what do you see

740
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: the age of the lead being? Because he might be

741
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: a little old to be the lead of that. I

742
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: was thinking that this show would be more for somebody

743
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: who was like fifty five sixty. I mean, that's just

744
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: my image, what about yours. I was thinking, like, I

745
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: thought they could do seasons with like wide range. I

746
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: really did. I thought like, no, I don't think he's

747
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he's too old. I thought it would

748
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: be like really fun to have people in their eighties. Um,

749
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure it out. I did, really,

750
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: I was thinking was gonna be like all fifties and sixties.

751
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: But I guess when you use the term, which is

752
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: senior citizens, senior citizen is what sixty five and older?

753
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: I think it's actually now you get your ar cardlet

754
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: like fifty um yeah, yeah, when you were not that

755
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: far away. As we get our part soon, which means

756
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: which means cheaper coffee at McDonald's. Let's go well, Ashley, Uh,

757
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: before we talk about who was at stage Coach this

758
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: last weekend and what happened at Stagecoach and if we

759
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: know of any drama that existed at stage Coach, we're

760
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: gonna talk about Tyler Cameron. He mentions and talks sits

761
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: down and talks to She's all batch about why he

762
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: wasn't the Bachelor, discording to Cosmo, Actually, why wasn't Tyler

763
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: Cameron the Bachelor? Okay, actually Tyler is not the one

764
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: talking here. It's Michael Johnson. Oh jeez, why is he talking?

765
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: Spoke on his behalf. Well, there you go. I don't

766
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: know how much Tyler is going to appreciate this, but

767
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: this is what he said to Cosmo on their podcast.

768
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: He goes, Tyler didn't want it. He was like, I'm good, bra,

769
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: I got more followers than Eddie Bachelor will get. I

770
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: don't need the money that you give to me to

771
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: be the Bachelor. I don't want my life to look

772
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: like that. He go and then Mike says, I don't

773
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: blame him. He says, they're pros and cons to being

774
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: the show's lead. You know, you want to find love.

775
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: The negative is everyone and the mama says, are gonna

776
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: say something about you and and this is this is

777
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: what this is. He was kind of quoting Tyler there,

778
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: and he goes, he's not wrong. Um, the Bachelor cycle

779
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: is usually like, you know, like they love you when

780
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: you become the bachelor coming off of the other season,

781
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: and then they kind of destroy you once you become

782
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: the lead. Uh So that's that's that Ben. Um. When

783
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: Tyler was on our podcast when I was on my

784
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: mini maternity leave, did you ask him this question? Did

785
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: he have a similar response. I remember asking something along

786
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: the lines of would you ever be interested in doing

787
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: something again on the show? I mean, I don't want

788
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: to speak for him. I don't think that's yeah. I

789
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: don't I don't think that's I just got this sense that, yeah,

790
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: he's pretty good. I mean, because I think his follow

791
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: up was, you know, he has his construction company, and um,

792
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: he has the the like USA E bowls and smoothie plays.

793
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: I think he's like busy and he's kind of settling down.

794
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: And so I mean, I'm sure if the right opportunities

795
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: presents itself, Tyler Cameron would probably say yes. But I

796
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: don't know if The Bachelor or the Bachelor franchises those

797
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 1: right opportunities. Maybe, I just don't know. It doesn't feel

798
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: like it fits now. It feels like if he if

799
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: he did it, um, it would just kind of be

800
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: a weird twist to his life, kind of on how

801
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: the progression is gone. But well, um, you know, so

802
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: it sounds like Tyler Cameron, according to Mike, said not

803
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: to be in the actually because he just didn't need it.

804
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: Well that's fair. Uh, that's good. I'm glad I did

805
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: it and the only reason Mom on this podcast so

806
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 1: helped me out a little bit. Last headline of today

807
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: Stage Coach two. It's been mentioned on well Bachelor in

808
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: Paradise many times UM talked about everything that happens at

809
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: Stage Coach back in the day. Well, their celebrity sightings

810
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: include several people from The Bachelor Ashley who was it there?

811
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: I will add in here that my friend Blake Hortsman,

812
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: who is a DJ and has been working really hard

813
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 1: on that, did get the opportunity to go to Stage

814
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: Coach and be a and and have a set this year,

815
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: which is a big deal. Look like it went really

816
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: really well. Um, But who all attended? And then tell

817
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: us more about DJ Blake Hortsman's DJ set on Saturday. Well,

818
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: let's just you know, punchline here is Blake returns to

819
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: Stage Coach. Of course time since it is, isn't it? Um?

820
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: It might be because of COVID and cancelations, but I

821
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: can't confirm that. I don't know that for sure. Okay, So,

822
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: Abigail was there, Amanda Stanton was there with her fiance

823
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 1: Michael and Kins, her daughter Kins went. So that's cute.

824
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: Um Joe, Joe and Becca were there, Hannah Brown was there. Uh,

825
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: Katie Thurston was there, and so was Um Thomas. Becca's

826
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: Becca's this boy soon to be fiance as we talked

827
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: about in headlines last week, was also there. And then

828
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: what did you ask me about about his set? I

829
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: mean there's more there too. Alisa's there, Jojo was there,

830
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: Becca was there, Hannah Brown was there. Okay, good, Well,

831
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: there's a huge group that was there, Amanda standing obviously,

832
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: like just ridiculous how many people were there but his

833
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: set on Saturday, I know a lot of people went

834
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: out not only go to Stage Coach, but you know

835
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: it gave them a good excuse to go because their

836
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: friend Blake was djaying at the Honky Tonk. So tell

837
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: us about it. Okay. So when Blake was djaying, he

838
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: was wearing a shirt that said we met at Stage Coach. Obviously,

839
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: it was poking fun at the fact that he met

840
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: multiple ladies from Paradise at Stage Coach before Paradise. It's

841
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: kind of funny. At least he can laugh at himself.

842
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: His rumored girlfriend Gia from Love Is Blind was also

843
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: there with a whole bunch of his bachelor friends at

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Speaker 1: the cover of Friends in Low Places. That's awesome, very cool.

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Speaker 1: Red Rocks this year. Um so pretty cool, absolutely incredible. Well, hey,

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Speaker 1: for us talked about here on the Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: And with that I've been Been, I've been Ashley bad guys,

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