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Speaker 2: eight of the NFL season. As the Cowboys get it's
Speaker 2: set to face the l A Rams at at and
Speaker 2: T Stadium on Sunday. Like the big voice man said
Speaker 2: Isaiah stand Back, John Machoda, Nick Harris.
Speaker 1: We have Chris Beam in the back, gentlemen. How we
Speaker 1: doing today? Swell Swell, you look locked.
Speaker 5: In over here. You're always locked in.
Speaker 1: Kyle, ready to get your your QB vision, taking care
Speaker 1: of you.
Speaker 5: Ready for QB vision?
Speaker 1: Not Yeah, that's the second. Yeah, it's pretty nice.
Speaker 6: Right when I wanted so when I walked in, the
Speaker 6: first thing I said to him, like, obidell your homework
Speaker 6: on this RAMS defense because I just see a lot
Speaker 6: of similarities between this Rams defense name wise, and let's
Speaker 6: say I don't know the Arizona Diamondbacks. You're not following along.
Speaker 6: There's bunch of names you're probably not gonna know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the Arizona Diamondbacks.
Speaker 2: That's still they're in the World Series right, still, They're
Speaker 2: still formidable.
Speaker 6: I'm literally I would love for someone to reach out
Speaker 6: tell us. I would love to know of a team
Speaker 6: with less name recognition on it than that air Arizona Diamonbacks.
Speaker 6: It's made it to a championship a series. I will
Speaker 6: say that, Well, I'm just gonna stick with because the
Speaker 6: ones that followed the most are baseball, football, and basketball.
Speaker 6: But I would man that that that lineup, I mean,
Speaker 6: of course there's like Evan Longoria, but the rest of
Speaker 6: that crew is it's.
Speaker 1: Like an old Evan Longoria.
Speaker 6: Though now I'm just talking about like nay recognition, where
Speaker 6: just baseball fans will be like, oh yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 6: I know this guy is good.
Speaker 3: There's very little That's what I was going to point out.
Speaker 7: I was watching I think it was game five or
Speaker 7: game six of that series, and Evan Longoria is in
Speaker 7: the eight hole.
Speaker 3: I was like, wait, Evan Lo, when did he get here?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was I think I was very early in the series.
Speaker 2: It was the nl d S and I was like,
Speaker 2: I didn't even know he was still playing nonetheless playing well.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what.
Speaker 6: They don't even think of an NFL team that's made
Speaker 6: the super Bowl with that little name wreck. I mean
Speaker 6: maybe maybe the Panthers that year that they they lost
Speaker 6: to Brady with like j J.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then even then they had they had some
Speaker 2: guys on that defense then, right, I don't know, so
Speaker 2: long ago, that.
Speaker 7: Was so long a Seahawks team with what was like
Speaker 7: hassleback that was starting or am I losing my mind?
Speaker 3: And this was like six.
Speaker 1: Seahawks ever go to the super Bowl in the mid
Speaker 1: two thousands. Sean Alexander was on the team.
Speaker 5: Yeah you did? Yeah, Oh yeah, the ball we're gonna score?
Speaker 1: Yeah that one.
Speaker 6: Hey, I should know that Super Bowl is Indy treading
Speaker 6: the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, Oh man, I forgot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that one's that's a go one too, man. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that was pretty rough.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Recently there's been name recognition because either one side had
Speaker 2: Tom Brady for the most part, or the other side
Speaker 2: had somebody that was really like an MVP or something even.
Speaker 6: Like it made a bunch of moves that are a
Speaker 6: bunch of I mean, heck, this RAMS team going to
Speaker 6: the super Bowl. All the moves that they made to
Speaker 6: get them to that point, you know, moves they made.
Speaker 6: I thought I said something wrong.
Speaker 1: They did. They're aggressive. You said something right, Yes, that
Speaker 1: would be Isaiah perked up real quick.
Speaker 4: It's just wild. That just tends to be the commonality
Speaker 4: around these parts. People would be aggressive, they go get guys,
Speaker 4: and they automatically just end up in.
Speaker 1: A in the bowl game. It's almost like we we
Speaker 1: talked about this.
Speaker 6: I like that he used commonality because I said that
Speaker 6: word yesterday and immediately after I said, I'm like, make
Speaker 6: sure it works. Make let me make sure this is
Speaker 6: an actual word.
Speaker 1: That's funny.
Speaker 3: It is very much good AP style book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, nick and uh let's do some news and notes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll say, well, I was gonna say nick and nick,
Speaker 2: nick and or news and notes.
Speaker 1: It was just like a bunch of bens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get out here. Look at tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We'll try it again on Friday.
Speaker 7: We could start with probably the shortest injury report in
Speaker 7: the history of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: That's not a fact.
Speaker 7: But I was talking with somebody and uh, I was
Speaker 7: talking with somebody in p R yesterday and that they
Speaker 7: couldn't recall a practice report as slim as this one
Speaker 7: since at least twenty fifteen, so.
Speaker 3: It's been a while.
Speaker 7: There was only one player on the injury report yesterday,
Speaker 7: and it was one Yay Thomas, who obviously missed a
Speaker 7: Chargers game with the hamstring injury. And he was a
Speaker 7: full participant. And the only reason he was on there
Speaker 7: is because he missed the Chargers game. If not, he
Speaker 7: wouldn't have even been on there. So basically a negated
Speaker 7: practice report yesterday.
Speaker 3: Everybody's healthy on the fifty three.
Speaker 6: Man, I've never seen anything like that. I've been covering
Speaker 6: teams of twenty eleven. We get these email to us,
Speaker 6: you know, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. I have never seen one
Speaker 6: with only one name on it. And I'm talking even
Speaker 6: at the beginning of a season much less you know,
Speaker 6: now they're coming out of the buy That obviously helps.
Speaker 6: But when I got that email, I was kind of like,
Speaker 6: is this wrong? Like the only I mean, the only
Speaker 6: way to beat that would be is if they sent
Speaker 6: one out and there was no names on there, and
Speaker 6: I've definitely never seen anything like that. But then even
Speaker 6: the fact that you know, it seems like Juan Yer
Speaker 6: is on track, it's not. I mean, he was full
Speaker 6: listen is full participants, So that's a good sign there too. Now,
Speaker 6: obviously when we say that that's not counting you know,
Speaker 6: Trayvon Diggs is out for the season, Leyton Vanders is
Speaker 6: on IRE, like, that's not counting them, because I feel
Speaker 6: like sometimes be tweeted out everybody's available in that that
Speaker 6: some people wonder, all, does that mean latent too, No,
Speaker 6: it doesn't. He's he's on IR. So when you're on IR,
Speaker 6: you're not in that week to week like update on
Speaker 6: what your status is in practice.
Speaker 5: Obviously.
Speaker 2: What it does include, though, are the guys that have
Speaker 2: been dealing with with nagging injuries.
Speaker 6: Zach Martin offensive the first one.
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 2: Offensive Line just really across the board. It's awesome to
Speaker 2: see nobody out there.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: Thursday's really been the trouble practice. Thursday's been the one
Speaker 2: where something has popped up. So, I mean, we got
Speaker 2: to knock on our wooden plank here just to make
Speaker 2: sure that.
Speaker 1: When's that coming.
Speaker 3: By the way, I figured that's why you paid the phone.
Speaker 6: I was kind of interested to see if, like Michael
Speaker 6: McCarthy prefers obviously to practice on grass, and we haven't
Speaker 6: gone inside at all this year yet for a practice,
Speaker 6: and I thought that today might be the day. With
Speaker 6: the rain and then walking in here, i mean, all
Speaker 6: the stuff's set up outside, so I'm thinking they're going
Speaker 6: to keep going outside. And obviously he does that because
Speaker 6: of a lesser chance of injury in that. So yeah,
Speaker 6: we were.
Speaker 7: We had just come back in after the media portion
Speaker 7: of practice yesterday, which for the audience is typically about
Speaker 7: twenty twenty five minutes that we get right at the
Speaker 7: beginning of practice, and as soon as we came.
Speaker 3: Out, it started pouring down.
Speaker 7: Right now. I was like, oh, they're about to go inside.
Speaker 7: They stayed out there the whole time, and the field
Speaker 7: looks good.
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, it being this far into the season,
Speaker 6: there's been times where you know, you walk around by
Speaker 6: the natum up there and you look down You're like, man,
Speaker 6: this thing ain't gonna make it till the end of
Speaker 6: the year. Put a new one down at thinking towards
Speaker 6: the end of last season, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was right at the end of the y.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I don't know if I mean, I'm not
Speaker 6: a grass expert, which Mike McCarthy is. He's super into
Speaker 6: this stuff.
Speaker 4: But uh, Beamer, what's the what's our? I guess our?
Speaker 4: I don't know what his title is. The guy who
Speaker 4: handles all the landscaping out there, what's his name?
Speaker 3: The grass pert?
Speaker 1: Chris Chris.
Speaker 6: He's doing a great job.
Speaker 5: He's he's been around since I was around. That dude's amazing.
Speaker 1: And what was it when they've.
Speaker 3: Brought in a guy as well?
Speaker 2: I was about to say a consultant as well, because
Speaker 2: we were having grass problems.
Speaker 1: It was a consultant that deals with the world up.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was one of those things that back in the day,
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 5: Back in the day. Just there yesterday reading an article.
Speaker 2: Aund they were at the stadium this week I think
Speaker 2: it was Monday.
Speaker 5: They've been around.
Speaker 6: So for people that have never been to the Star,
Speaker 6: just so you know, I mean, for one, the Texas
Speaker 6: sun is going to be down on some grass. That's
Speaker 6: so that's your line. One. The other is that these
Speaker 6: two fields are in the middle of these these three
Speaker 6: buildings that are all covered in glass, So that's just
Speaker 6: reflecting that sun even more off. So when I talk
Speaker 6: about this, I'm not just it's not just like keeping
Speaker 6: your front lawn green, like it's tough to keep and
Speaker 6: then they're wear and tear for how much that Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 6: I mean, he won't say this publicly, but I bet
Speaker 6: he would prefer both of the fields out there being grass,
Speaker 6: you know. I mean, that's what the way it was
Speaker 6: in Green Bays used to price it on grass and
Speaker 6: stuff like that, and then obviously have the turf inside
Speaker 6: at the forward center. But everything looks like it's going
Speaker 6: pretty good out there, and I imagine they're going to
Speaker 6: stay out there even because that's the thing too, is
Speaker 6: that people thing, oh why would they be out there today,
Speaker 6: Like they're going to be playing inside on Sunday, But
Speaker 6: they're trying to get They want to be on the
Speaker 6: grass as much as possible, you know, that's always it's
Speaker 6: that's a big thing with like teams like Bill Belichick.
Speaker 6: I think that before they played somebody that was indoors,
Speaker 6: it was raining outside, and he's like, everyone, we're going
Speaker 6: outside and they and they practiced in the rain, and
Speaker 6: obviously not the greatest of field conditions, and a lot
Speaker 6: of people were why would you do that? You're about
Speaker 6: to play, But it's more than just about that opponent,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah mentioned too. Yeah even had somebody upstairs. I don't
Speaker 2: remember who said it, but somebody asked that yesterday. It
Speaker 2: wasn't one of the media side of things. It was
Speaker 2: one of the business side. And they even asked there
Speaker 2: like why they're playing at at and t like this
Speaker 2: the roof's going to be closed, like why are they outside?
Speaker 1: And sure enough, I mean, they kept rolling all the
Speaker 1: way through it. And like you said, DFW got a lot.
Speaker 2: Of rain over the last twenty four hours, a significant downpour,
Speaker 2: especially through the night last night, and the Star was
Speaker 2: hit by that. But they're still out there, They're still rolling,
Speaker 2: They've got all the equipment and should be ready to go.
Speaker 2: H only time I've seen him go in this year
Speaker 2: was in the middle of a practice two weeks ago,
Speaker 2: maybe going I can't remember it was. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: before the chargers came. So yeah, that was the only
Speaker 2: time they've ever gone in. And they started outside and
Speaker 2: then moved inside whenever the lightning.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The other thing that factors into is that because of
Speaker 6: those three buildings be around. It gets real windy out there, yes,
Speaker 6: and so yeah for Brandon Aubrey, I'm sure he doesn't
Speaker 6: love kicking in that, but yeah, it's been real windy.
Speaker 2: Good practice, right, yeah, perfect practice makes perfect.
Speaker 7: There was one day last week when the wind was
Speaker 7: just cooking in that in that wind tunnel on the
Speaker 7: practice field, and he would aim at almost right of
Speaker 7: the goalposts and it would just come around all the.
Speaker 3: Way left and it was it was hilarious.
Speaker 7: Speaking on that note, This wasn't my next note, but
Speaker 7: since we're on the point of Brandon Aubry, I go
Speaker 7: ahead to bring it up. He did mention yesterday that
Speaker 7: his personal best inside the Star is sixty eight yards
Speaker 7: and that outside on those fields in the notorious wind tunnel,
Speaker 7: it's fifty five yards.
Speaker 3: So I feel like throwing that out there.
Speaker 7: Just because we saw I think it was in the
Speaker 7: Jets game where he had an opportunity for a sixty
Speaker 7: six yard or yea, the fall start moving him back
Speaker 7: and they ended up punting. But I don't know, would
Speaker 7: y'all be comfortable if he was to roll out for
Speaker 7: sixty eight on Sunday?
Speaker 4: We're part of the game, Yeah, who knows, who knows,
Speaker 4: who knows.
Speaker 5: If it's you know, going into halftime or something like that,
Speaker 5: why not in a game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't say comfortable.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, excuse me.
Speaker 6: When he was talking to I think you mentioned about
Speaker 6: how his hope is that they can just get the
Speaker 6: ball on the r side of the fifty. Yeah, if
Speaker 6: it's in you know, late game situation like that, I
Speaker 6: would say, if he can kick sixty eight in practice,
Speaker 6: I think that he probably could make a seventy yard
Speaker 6: or if he had to. I'm not saying he's he's
Speaker 6: going to, but I'm saying if he had to march
Speaker 6: him out there for it, it's got a chance, just
Speaker 6: because I think he'd be a little bit more amped
Speaker 6: up with a crowd around you than it hit sixty
Speaker 6: eight with nobody around inside the Ford Center. So yeah,
Speaker 6: it would be interesting. But I don't I mean, heck,
Speaker 6: they trotted him out there for a sixty six yarder
Speaker 6: and we're going to kick it up until a point
Speaker 6: where there was I think it was a false start
Speaker 6: right before halftime. So yeah, but I bean comfortable thinking like,
Speaker 6: oh yeah, let's go get something to drink. This one's
Speaker 6: in no, but yeah, but I think he's got a chance.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy talked about that.
Speaker 3: A little bit after that.
Speaker 2: That opportunity arose where it was a sixty six yarder
Speaker 2: and everybody's like, why would you even attempt this?
Speaker 1: And he tried it out the field goal unit.
Speaker 2: It was in a game that at that point it
Speaker 2: was out of hand, right, I'm trying to remember why.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because it was out of hand.
Speaker 2: And he said, you know, I mean just the confidence
Speaker 2: level that that gives to a kicker one to say, hey,
Speaker 2: we're willing to try this.
Speaker 1: If you say you're good, let's do it.
Speaker 5: Let's try it out there.
Speaker 2: But two, it's almost a mental rep or a rep
Speaker 2: in general, if you actually physically go through and kick
Speaker 2: it to see just how close you.
Speaker 1: Are from sixty six yards.
Speaker 2: So that way, whenever a playoff scenario comes down and
Speaker 2: something like that happens, it's an end of game scenario,
Speaker 2: you've at least seen it before, because then you can
Speaker 2: be more calculated in your decision making whether to do
Speaker 2: it or whether not to do it.
Speaker 1: Down the line whenever things matter more.
Speaker 2: So, I like it if if the opportunity arise, it
Speaker 2: arises at some point throughout the season, and it's not
Speaker 2: going to hurt the outcome of the game.
Speaker 1: I think that's the number one thing.
Speaker 2: And I don't think they would do it if they
Speaker 2: thought it would hurt the outcome of the game. But
Speaker 2: if it doesn't have a direct impact on it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: why not, that's cry.
Speaker 6: He'd probably feel more comfortable with their with the Cowboys
Speaker 6: kicker than the Rams kicker right now.
Speaker 1: M probably yeah, yeah, probably.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: They just brought in somebody new.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, and they had been Brett Maher and they just recently, Yeah, they.
Speaker 7: Just cut their guy, right, he actually had a good start.
Speaker 7: It's it's really difficult Lucas have. I don't know, we're
Speaker 7: gonna need the pronunciation guy on something.
Speaker 6: I don't really know about that. Fine, I don't know
Speaker 6: anything about about this guy. All I know is that
Speaker 6: they moved down from Brett Maher, who obviously was the
Speaker 6: Cowboys kicker last year.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, I think Brett missed an extra point in
Speaker 7: two field goals on Sunday and they just said, yeah,
Speaker 7: you know, and he had actually had a pretty decent
Speaker 7: start to the season, like he was a lot of volume,
Speaker 7: he had had a lot of reps and he was
Speaker 7: he was doing alright with it. Next news and note
Speaker 7: running backs coach Jeff Blasco. That will make this one quick.
Speaker 7: But he is back with the team.
Speaker 3: He was out.
Speaker 7: I think it was since training camp, like towards the
Speaker 7: end of training camp is when he left with a
Speaker 7: health issue. But Mike McCarthy said yesterday in his press
Speaker 7: conference that he's back with the team.
Speaker 3: So obviously good news.
Speaker 7: Happy for Jeff Blasco to be back in the building
Speaker 7: and back doing what he loves. But I had a
Speaker 7: question proposed to me on Twitter whenever I tweeted that out.
Speaker 7: So it's like, Okay, now that the running back coach
Speaker 7: is here, does that mean there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 7: more a lot different utilization for running backs?
Speaker 3: And no, that is not the case.
Speaker 7: The running backs coach responsibilities they were shared by like
Speaker 7: a handful of offensive coaches while Blasco was out and
Speaker 7: him coming back in has nothing to do with the
Speaker 7: utilization through six games. So it's more so Mike McCarthy
Speaker 7: making the schematic choices in the running back coach. It's
Speaker 7: his job to make sure that they're fulfilled. So don't
Speaker 7: expect any big changes there and I don't know if
Speaker 7: you'll have any thoughts on that, but.
Speaker 2: You have any thoughts position coach wise, I mean, how
Speaker 2: much of an impact do they make in scheme choices.
Speaker 4: I don't know with this team, what about what you
Speaker 4: deal with dealt with When I was here, we had
Speaker 4: Skip Peete, and Skip Pete was one heck of a coach.
Speaker 4: They elected to not bring Skip Pete back. I know
Speaker 4: he had a tremendous impact on the group, but I
Speaker 4: was a part of it, and I would imagine that
Speaker 4: he had a tremendous impact on Ezekiel Elliott, Tony Pollard
Speaker 4: in years past.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he had input.
Speaker 4: I mean what he said his word was bond and
Speaker 4: I know the coaches listened. At least when I was around,
Speaker 4: coaches listened to what he had to say. His insight,
Speaker 4: his knowledge of the game, his responsibility as a standard
Speaker 4: that he healed guys too when they came off the field,
Speaker 4: if they had a bad carry, bad decision, bad read,
Speaker 4: He got off in their butt. It wasn't a pat
Speaker 4: on the back, Oh you're okay, Like he held you
Speaker 4: accountable and you didn't want to make a mistake because
Speaker 4: you were representing him at all times, so I can't
Speaker 4: speak to what they have now, but that's my experience.
Speaker 2: And he's over with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers now. He
Speaker 2: got plucked pretty quickly and he's been with the Bucks
Speaker 2: since the Cowboys let him go.
Speaker 6: But not that Namba shouldn't about other than us. But yeah,
Speaker 6: he was always great with the media too, So I'm like,
Speaker 6: I always been a big fan on and off the record.
Speaker 6: He's great to talk to. Great dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was always a lot of fun. Anything else.
Speaker 3: Last thing I got.
Speaker 7: Trayvon Diggs had his surgery on Tuesday to repair his
Speaker 7: torn acl We were able to ask Michael Parsons yesterday
Speaker 7: just to hated you talk to him or anything, and he.
Speaker 3: Was like, hey, this is this is what he said.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 7: He facetimed me and was like, I just got my surgery.
Speaker 7: I said, are you good?
Speaker 3: Do you need anything?
Speaker 7: I know his mom and everything is here. He was like, nah,
Speaker 7: I'm good. I'm still gonna go over there and play
Speaker 7: the game with him. I play the game with him
Speaker 7: too much.
Speaker 3: You see.
Speaker 7: He's on with des now and everything. He's picked up
Speaker 7: some new hobbies. He still sucks at the game, so
Speaker 7: I'd be trying to give him a couple tips and
Speaker 7: things like that. So it looks like Trayvon Diggs is
Speaker 7: finding his new passion while while he's on the while
Speaker 7: he's on bed rest.
Speaker 6: I always found that interesting, how when you get a
Speaker 6: major injury, knee injury like that, how well up until
Speaker 6: like maybe I don't know, six seven years ago, I
Speaker 6: used to always think that, oh, yeah, no'll operate next week.
Speaker 6: But with certain injuries like that, I think it's because
Speaker 6: they want the swelling to down. Is that why it is.
Speaker 5: I don't know why they waited so long for them,
Speaker 5: It's a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeahah.
Speaker 7: It was similar with overshown. Though they really want the
Speaker 7: swelling to be completely gone. They don't want to even
Speaker 7: jump it even a little too early, because if you
Speaker 7: go in with swelling, then there's possibility a scar tissue
Speaker 7: on the other side and you've got to go back
Speaker 7: in and then it's a longer recovery. So they did
Speaker 7: with Terrence Steel too, So I don't think it makes
Speaker 7: the timetable.
Speaker 6: But I think it's just a knee thing, or would
Speaker 6: they do that for others, for achilles and things like
Speaker 6: that as well.
Speaker 4: It's just the swelling. It swelling complicates things in terms
Speaker 4: of surgery and your recovery. But that was a long
Speaker 4: time for Trayvon. That I yeah, that was surprising to me.
Speaker 7: And correct me if I'm wrong. The knee is one
Speaker 7: of the more like areas of the body that swell
Speaker 7: the most they can they can, they can be there
Speaker 7: for a while, So maybe there's a little bit more
Speaker 7: time and that and waiting for it to go down.
Speaker 7: But I don't think it affects his timetable by any means.
Speaker 7: I trust the staff here that they.
Speaker 5: Know what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially after Terrence Steel. How quick he got back,
Speaker 2: no doubt. Uh what game was he talking about?
Speaker 1: Talking about Madden?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 7: He had he had talked about Madden and two K
Speaker 7: earlier and like the press conference that he was that
Speaker 7: he had been playing quite a bit during the bye week.
Speaker 3: That's what Micah had said, that.
Speaker 7: He'd like him personally, but he didn't mention what game
Speaker 7: he'd been playing with Trayvon.
Speaker 3: So I assume it's one of.
Speaker 2: Those, probably one of them two, Yeah, I would imagine
Speaker 2: that was probably the case.
Speaker 1: All Right, let's take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 2: We've got QB vision Isaiah Standback is going to break
Speaker 2: down this Rams defense and how the Cowboys offense can
Speaker 2: take advantage of some of the holes in that defense
Speaker 2: when we come back right after this with more talking cowboys.
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Speaker 1: Eddie Why Leddy put up?
Speaker 13: It's time for QB vision with Isaiah's stand back.
Speaker 1: John doesn't like the sound you.
Speaker 6: No, I'm finally who said it though?
Speaker 1: Who said that?
Speaker 6: Was you saying that?
Speaker 5: I said that? I did not say I said what
Speaker 5: did the cadence?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what that was not my voice?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, but even didn't really sound like you.
Speaker 6: The cates didn't even really sound that much like you.
Speaker 5: You know, I have a lot of a lot of
Speaker 5: gifts and talents.
Speaker 6: I just think it's funny because because honestly, it makes
Speaker 6: me think of like it just makes me think of
Speaker 6: like all this season, like when it really it was
Speaker 6: like it was Romo too, but all the other quarterbacks.
Speaker 6: So I had to say the cadence the way that
Speaker 6: Romo said it. So then if he goes down and
Speaker 6: it's the same way with Dak now like when he
Speaker 6: said saying that, here we go, like Uber Rush has
Speaker 6: to say it the same exact way. Trey Lance has
Speaker 6: to say it the same way. So when you said that,
Speaker 6: I didn't necessarily it didn't sound like you right away.
Speaker 6: So okay, cool, sounded good.
Speaker 2: Though, maybe maybe we get back over here, get to
Speaker 2: record a cadence.
Speaker 3: Here we go, here we real quick.
Speaker 7: What was probably the most difficult one you had to
Speaker 7: copy in your career. I didn't have to copy and
Speaker 7: we didn't have to copy anybody.
Speaker 1: Okay, flex, Okay.
Speaker 6: You guys, you're just looking over at the play cards
Speaker 6: on the sideline they were holding up.
Speaker 4: I mean, only the only time I was playing quarterback
Speaker 4: in the league was in New England, so I mean,
Speaker 4: Tom Brady, I didn't have to. Tom didn't have like
Speaker 4: this extensive you know call snapkin. He he literally most
Speaker 4: of the stuff was him calling out the mic and
Speaker 4: like that stuff.
Speaker 5: The protection aspect was the more important thing.
Speaker 4: Like the actual cadence didn't give too much of an
Speaker 4: indication as to what we're doing.
Speaker 5: Is more just fluff. You can kind of do your
Speaker 5: own thing.
Speaker 3: Well, he went to Michigan, so he was just looking
Speaker 3: on the opposing sideline.
Speaker 6: Wow, pretty good time.
Speaker 1: It's a timely joke over to the Patriots by Gate.
Speaker 5: Let' see what you did there.
Speaker 1: So it all started from Michigan. We're piecing this together.
Speaker 5: So can Michigan get knocked out the top four because
Speaker 5: of this?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: They can get in significant trouble. But no, I don't
Speaker 1: think that.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to come to.
Speaker 5: A one spot to go one spot to come out
Speaker 5: the top four.
Speaker 4: So that you interests investigator, we're number five right now,
Speaker 4: we're sitting strong.
Speaker 5: We need to slide in all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about this RAMS defense.
Speaker 4: Rams defense. Okay, so the RAMS defense. Obviously, when you
Speaker 4: think about the RAMS defense, what's the first thing.
Speaker 5: You think about?
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald a d right, and there.
Speaker 4: Are some people around these parts that don't believe that
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald is still Aaron Donald.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say any name.
Speaker 3: I didn't say that.
Speaker 5: I didn't say you. I'm not talking about you.
Speaker 3: But i know you're coming at me, So I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna ahead and a dress it. I didn't say that.
Speaker 7: I'm just saying I don't think he would be worth
Speaker 7: trading so much for at this point in his career.
Speaker 1: But go ahead, all.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, Aaron Donald is still Aaron Donald from my perspective,
Speaker 4: from my QB visionized, okay, from my eye in the sky,
Speaker 4: you see that he is a complete dude. These guys
Speaker 4: run a three four defense, okay. And because they run
Speaker 4: a three four defense, it gives Aaron Donald the opportunity
Speaker 4: a lot of times to work on offensive guards.
Speaker 5: And when he's able to work on offensive guards.
Speaker 4: It's it's pretty bad for opposing offensive guards.
Speaker 1: He's quick, he's.
Speaker 4: Fast, he's explosive, he's all the things that you've come
Speaker 4: to know about Aaron Donald. And he's the leader of
Speaker 4: this defense that hasn't changed. He has a couple of
Speaker 4: guys that are playing next to him, Kobe Turner and
Speaker 4: Jonah Jonah Williams. Kobe Turner ninety one shows up more
Speaker 4: on film to me than Jonah Williams does. But they
Speaker 4: could they compliment what Aaron Donald does in terms of
Speaker 4: giving him the one on one matchups that he's looking for.
Speaker 4: They have the stand up defensive ends in a typical
Speaker 4: three four defense. The only person that really pops off
Speaker 4: the field to me is Byron Young, number number zero.
Speaker 4: He flies around, he is aggressive, he's gonna, he's gonna.
Speaker 4: He's that non stop Who's some guys, I mean, you
Speaker 4: could throw anybody eater. I think when I think about NonStop,
Speaker 4: relentless guys, I think about guys like Klay Matthews. I
Speaker 4: think about what's much your name out of Detroit? Not
Speaker 4: a youngin Aiden Hutchinson, guys like that. That's just like
Speaker 4: not saying that quality of player. But I'm saying that
Speaker 4: he's just that tenacious, right, He's just not He's relentless.
Speaker 2: Byron Young, by the way, was a thirty visit for
Speaker 2: the Cowboys this year.
Speaker 1: They really liked him, especially in the draft.
Speaker 2: They got to the point where they were really looking
Speaker 2: into him and they thought.
Speaker 1: He would be there and mid rounds.
Speaker 2: They were thinking maybe late third, early fourth, and he
Speaker 2: got picked up in the third top third.
Speaker 7: Was Kobe Turner another thirty visit or well, he's just
Speaker 7: somebody that we talked about a lot during the draft.
Speaker 1: I want to say he was more so a talk
Speaker 1: about part.
Speaker 2: I can go back and look, but yeah, either way
Speaker 2: both I don't think he was a visit.
Speaker 4: Either way, both of those guys are showing up on
Speaker 4: film in terms of what they do. Okay, this is
Speaker 4: a prototypical Cover four defense, much like we face against
Speaker 4: the Chargers. We talked about the Chargers a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks back. We talked about how they're going to play
Speaker 4: a lot of Cover four, how a lot of the
Speaker 4: ways in which you can beat them is underneath. We
Speaker 4: saw a lot of that, right, We saw a lot
Speaker 4: of that in terms of Ceedee Lamb getting some slants,
Speaker 4: getting the ball early, and often a lot of the
Speaker 4: things were open to him underneath. Coverage wise, that's going
Speaker 4: to be more along the same for this RAMS defense.
Speaker 4: The difference is that this RAMS defense does a great
Speaker 4: job of disguising whether or not they're going to play
Speaker 4: two high or one high.
Speaker 5: A lot of times.
Speaker 4: They'll line up with Cover four look meaning the corners
Speaker 4: corners are off and outside, the safeties have depth, and
Speaker 4: it looks like Cover four every single play, and then
Speaker 4: sometimes they'll roll down to three.
Speaker 1: And how they roll down to three is.
Speaker 4: Typically that the traditional way of rolling to Cover three
Speaker 4: is when the safety rolls back to the middle of
Speaker 4: the field, that other safety rolls down right into the.
Speaker 5: Box he plays.
Speaker 4: He looks for crossers and things of that nature. Well,
Speaker 4: these guys don't play the typical Cover three. They'll keep
Speaker 4: their safety lined up in their original position and they'll
Speaker 4: just drop the other safety down And a lot of
Speaker 4: times when they drop that safety down, they're looking for
Speaker 4: crossing routes. So when they played against the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 4: they played a lot more Cover three, and it's a
Speaker 4: lot more single high because they were looking for those
Speaker 4: over routes. They were looking for the things that are
Speaker 4: coming across the middle.
Speaker 5: They really wanted to take that away.
Speaker 4: You would think the more weapons you have, the more
Speaker 4: you would play too high safety, but they didn't take
Speaker 4: that approach. So seemingly, the more threatened they are by
Speaker 4: your receivers, the more they want to play single high
Speaker 4: so that they can have more guys in the middle
Speaker 4: of the field to take away those things. That's the
Speaker 4: middle of the field that's typically open. So that's what
Speaker 4: I am seeing on film from them. In terms of
Speaker 4: personnel and the secondary that stand out to me. Jordan
Speaker 4: Fuller is he's a safety. He's not bad, but Rush
Speaker 4: Yeast number two he pops on film to me. He
Speaker 4: really does pop on film to me. He wants to
Speaker 4: take your head off. I think he's relatively good in coverage.
Speaker 4: He's aggressive, he's decisive when he comes. When he makes
Speaker 4: a decision that he wants to come hit you, he's
Speaker 4: going to try to he's going to try to knock
Speaker 4: you out. He's trying to put you out the game.
Speaker 4: So number two and number four of those guys are
Speaker 4: solid to me at the safety position. The cornerbacks, Keilo
Speaker 4: Witherspoon doesn't really impress me on film. Darien Kendrick number one,
Speaker 4: So one and forty four of their corners they don't
Speaker 4: really impress me. Kobe Durant, they're nickel for fourteen.
Speaker 5: He's okay. He's okay.
Speaker 4: Again, not threatened by necessarily anything that they're doing that
Speaker 4: in that regard, which is why I think they play
Speaker 4: a lot of four. I think they give them the
Speaker 4: grace to keep everything in front of them, and they're
Speaker 4: trying to much like the Chargers did, okay, which is
Speaker 4: kind of scary when you look at it, but you've
Speaker 4: had a week to look at it. They want to
Speaker 4: keep everything in front of them, so if you are
Speaker 4: trying to get beyond them, then that takes more time
Speaker 4: and it gives their pass rush opportunity to get to you.
Speaker 5: And their pass rush is Aaron Donald. That is their
Speaker 5: pass rush.
Speaker 4: And for those who are looking at Aaron Donald's stats
Speaker 4: and saying, oh, he doesn't have a bunch of sacks,
Speaker 4: listen here, this dude is about er point zero two
Speaker 4: seconds away from sack after sack after sack. These guys
Speaker 4: are barely getting the ball off. I don't care what
Speaker 4: team that they've played to date. He is right there.
Speaker 4: So he's literally not even half a second away from
Speaker 4: being all over the headlines that you're you know how
Speaker 4: you're typically used to seeing Aaron Donald's name.
Speaker 5: He is right there, Johnny on the spot throwing guys off.
Speaker 4: I mean the explosiveness that he has to lift these
Speaker 4: grown men guards most of the time off their feet
Speaker 4: and just shd. You can't hold onto him. He does
Speaker 4: such a great job of shedding blocks. Guys get on
Speaker 4: to him and he literally punches him or he lips
Speaker 4: of him and tosses them, and then he's off and
Speaker 4: he's going to make a big play. He's running things
Speaker 4: down from behind, and his other guys that they have
Speaker 4: around him are just playing to that.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 4: He's a he's the disruptor. Everybody else is a complimentary player.
Speaker 4: And that's what they try to do to you on defense,
Speaker 4: their rush defense.
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid of it, especially when they're playing too high.
Speaker 4: I think that that's where you could really take advantage
Speaker 4: of these guys being at their playing.
Speaker 1: A soft cover four defense.
Speaker 4: You can obviously take advantage of things underneath with your
Speaker 4: option routes, your slamts, all those things that we saw
Speaker 4: in the Chargers game. You'll have that at your disposal.
Speaker 4: But the running game you have to get that back
Speaker 4: going again. And I think this is a good bunch
Speaker 4: of do it against How do you do that against
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 4: You ready to combo block them, right, Tyler biadis you read?
Speaker 4: You better to put on your chance strap, your jockstrap,
Speaker 4: your your studs, everything else, because you're gonna have to
Speaker 4: get low and be engaged on this guy and hopefully
Speaker 4: they're not leaving you on the island to do this
Speaker 4: by yourself. Hopefully Zach Martin can help you out. Hopefully
Speaker 4: Tyler Smith can help you out, but you're going to
Speaker 4: need too. And it's hard to use two guys to
Speaker 4: combo block versus a three to four because those guys
Speaker 4: are covering up your center and both of your guards,
Speaker 4: so it's really one on ones and your tackles are
Speaker 4: left on an island with those stand up defensive ends,
Speaker 4: so it makes it difficult to double team. But you
Speaker 4: have to win your one on one matchups. The question
Speaker 4: is who's that one on one matchup gonna be against,
Speaker 4: Because if I'm Aaron Donald, even though I don't play
Speaker 4: nose tackle, i might place no tackle this game. Because
Speaker 4: that's that's your honestly, your weakest office alignment in terms
Speaker 4: of who he would line up on between Tyler Smith,
Speaker 4: Tyler Biadish, and Zach Martin. So he'll move around. Sometimes
Speaker 4: he'll be on the end, sometimes he'll stand up, but
Speaker 4: a lot of times he's right there in the middle,
Speaker 4: right there over those guards. But I can foresee him
Speaker 4: lining up over Tyler Beiotis and trying to be disruptive
Speaker 4: in that regard, I think.
Speaker 6: Of it's just being Tony Pollard and having it like
Speaker 6: you're you're back in production and you're just trying to
Speaker 6: help out and anybody that gets through, and here comes
Speaker 6: Aaron Donald and you just got to try and do
Speaker 6: your best to try try and disease.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, go for it.
Speaker 7: Question if if they're able to minimalize Aaron Donald, they
Speaker 7: have a really good game plan on taking him out
Speaker 7: of the game, who do you then have to account for?
Speaker 3: Probably the most.
Speaker 4: I would say Kobe Turner is probably the next man
Speaker 4: right there on in terms of the defensive line.
Speaker 3: Just in general. I was talking defense in general. But
Speaker 3: if you if you want to go, yeah, I would's fine.
Speaker 4: That's the only other guy in that front seven that
Speaker 4: I would be concerned about right now, and that's number
Speaker 4: ninety one, Kobe Turner. Again, once you get to the secondary,
Speaker 4: I don't their linebackers don't. They don't do nothing for
Speaker 4: me right now. But their secondary again, you got to
Speaker 4: go to, uh, whether it's Russ Yeast, Yeah, Russ Yeast
Speaker 4: I mean Witherspoon, he's a guy to me.
Speaker 5: He's a guy to me. I think he's I think
Speaker 5: he's serviceable. But he's not a lockdown corner.
Speaker 4: He's not somebody that you that you have to worry
Speaker 4: about taking any of your guys out the game.
Speaker 5: He's a he's an.
Speaker 4: NFL corner, you know, and he'll he'll have his plays,
Speaker 4: but I think that majority of the time you'll win
Speaker 4: your battles against him. And again, I think that's why
Speaker 4: they played to this coverage.
Speaker 5: You know. I don't think they want to play and
Speaker 5: cover four.
Speaker 4: I think they want to play more press, but I
Speaker 4: don't think they have the personnel to do so.
Speaker 5: But their safety will come bush you in the mouth, Russ.
Speaker 4: Yeast, if you if you're not locking and you're running
Speaker 4: an over route, he will come downhill and he'll light
Speaker 4: you up. So that's the guy that in terms of
Speaker 4: big play, mojo moment type of guy for them. That's
Speaker 4: the that's the other man aside from Aaron Donald, that
Speaker 4: I would be concerned about.
Speaker 1: It's really interesting.
Speaker 2: I went back and I just was curious the last
Speaker 2: time the Rams were in the playoffs, so of course
Speaker 2: was their Super Bowl year, and I just wanted to
Speaker 2: see what their defense then compared to what their defense
Speaker 2: is now. They have one returning starter on that defense.
Speaker 2: His name is Aaron Donald. It's the only guy that's it.
Speaker 2: Everybody else is gone, Michael Brockers, Sebastian, Joseph Day, Leonard Floyd,
Speaker 2: Micah Kaiser, Kenny Young, Troy Hill, Taylor Rapp, John Johnson,
Speaker 2: the Third, Jalen Ramsey, Boom, Darius Williams. I mean, they
Speaker 2: had some guys, and even their backups are starting elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Morgan Fox, who had a sack on Dak in that
Speaker 2: Chargers game, was a backup. Greg Gaines a backup still
Speaker 2: in the league. Ayshawn Robinson still, yeah, you do, Justin Hollands,
Speaker 2: Troy Reader. I mean, they have all these guys that
Speaker 2: were legitimate and over the last three years.
Speaker 1: That's how quickly one things can change in the NFL.
Speaker 2: I'm sure if we went back and looked at what
Speaker 2: the Cowboys defense looked like in twenty twenty, it's completely different.
Speaker 2: But sometimes it goes in your favor, like the Cowboys have,
Speaker 2: and sometimes it doesn't go in your favor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and these guys are middle of the road.
Speaker 4: I mean when you look at them statistically, right, they're
Speaker 4: sitting right in the middle, they're like sevent you know,
Speaker 4: seventeenth in the league in terms of yards allowed, things
Speaker 4: of that nature. But when you look as really interesting
Speaker 4: as much of an average defense as they are right now, statistically,
Speaker 4: when you look at their completion percentage against them, they're
Speaker 4: sitting at about fifty eight percent. So it's kind of
Speaker 4: interesting how, you know, it really plays to how much
Speaker 4: pressure there is happening up front. Even just with those
Speaker 4: front five guys, right, the three down linemen and the
Speaker 4: two stand up ends, they're causing enough, they're pressuring, right,
Speaker 4: They're causing enough enough disruption to not allow quarterbacks to
Speaker 4: really set their feet. Because with this type of defense,
Speaker 4: like the Chargers, right, you would think that you could
Speaker 4: light them up on the scoreboard.
Speaker 5: You would think you'd be able to, you know, get
Speaker 5: big playoff the big play.
Speaker 4: But Aaron Donald again, he is pressuring the crap out
Speaker 4: of guys, and he's not allowing these quarterbacks to really
Speaker 4: set their feet and get the ball to where they're
Speaker 4: where the openings are in this defense in the secondary.
Speaker 4: So that's I thought that was a very interesting stat
Speaker 4: line that these guys are top five. I believe it
Speaker 4: is right now, the top top four. Fifty eight percent
Speaker 4: of the passes completed against them. Dallas put it in perspective,
Speaker 4: Dallas is fifth with sixty percent of passes against them.
Speaker 5: So statistically, well.
Speaker 6: The one there's one statistic that they're bad at, and
Speaker 6: that's taking the ball away. Yeah, they only got five
Speaker 6: takeaways in seven games. That's not very good. But the
Speaker 6: only reason I brought up Witherspooner I mentioned him when
Speaker 6: I thought that, as you're gonna say, he does have
Speaker 6: three of them. He has two interceptions, he has a
Speaker 6: fumble recovery. But it is not a defense that you're
Speaker 6: really scared of making a bunch of plays, especially in
Speaker 6: the back end.
Speaker 5: Not at all.
Speaker 7: It's a super young group only aside from Aaron Donald,
Speaker 7: only one starter on the defensive side was drafted before
Speaker 7: twenty twenty, so a lot of youth on that defense.
Speaker 7: Are a couple of guys that I really liked in
Speaker 7: the college days. Garien Kendrick one of their starting corners.
Speaker 7: He was actually at Clemson initially and then whenever they
Speaker 7: opened up the transfer portal to make it immediate eligibility,
Speaker 7: he was one of like the very first big names
Speaker 7: that popped in the portal and he ended up at Georgia,
Speaker 7: finished there, won a national championship. So a really good
Speaker 7: talent there on the boundary daring college. But I'm with you,
Speaker 7: I'm with the Isaiah. I think there's a really good
Speaker 7: opportunity to go after him specifically. I don't feel like
Speaker 7: he's quite caught up with the speed yet. And there
Speaker 7: was another guy who went to Texas A and M
Speaker 7: a few years back. He was on the defensive interior
Speaker 7: for them, but he's on the IR now, Bobby Brown,
Speaker 7: and I was watching a game in week four and man,
Speaker 7: they were running right at him every time that he
Speaker 7: rotated it, and I like put it in the notes
Speaker 7: on my phone for this very exact day. I was like,
Speaker 7: whenever a KEP vision gets brought up, I'm be like,
Speaker 7: it's going to be their prerogative to go after Bobby
Speaker 7: Brown in the run game.
Speaker 3: But he's on the IR, so yeah, maybe they'll have.
Speaker 2: A chance to go after Trey Tomlinson Wacoway's own I
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Speaker 1: Shout them out, go Panthers.
Speaker 4: But I would like to stress that the best way
Speaker 4: to handle this defense is to get up on offense.
Speaker 5: Right, you don't say like yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: With that being said, I want to come back after
Speaker 2: our second break and I want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: Who needs to have the biggest day offensively?
Speaker 2: Who has a chance to get up on offense quicker
Speaker 2: and have a chance to really put this team and
Speaker 2: it gets a good situation to be successful come Sunday
Speaker 2: when we come back with more talking Cowboys.
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Speaker 5: Cowboys work out. I'm with you, said one Talk Cowboys
Speaker 5: work out.
Speaker 1: You said that'd be hilarious.
Speaker 5: Do it?
Speaker 6: And yeah, we don't want to do.
Speaker 3: That would be great.
Speaker 1: There would be a lot of weight changes. You're coming down,
Speaker 1: you'd have the three plates on for isaay.
Speaker 4: No, I don't live heavy and oh yeah, the bars enough,
Speaker 4: then you take leave the bar there, two of those
Speaker 4: plates off.
Speaker 5: Put a band. I put a band on there, put
Speaker 5: a band on, half a bar.
Speaker 1: Half a bar. Put the band.
Speaker 5: Heyway, the bands are sneaky, but that's what I do.
Speaker 1: I just I don't do much weight anymore.
Speaker 5: I just do bands.
Speaker 6: Is that because you're around time? No, And I'm not
Speaker 6: joking when I say this, but like to me, he's
Speaker 6: like one of the faces of it. It's Tom. And
Speaker 6: then and then it got to uh got to like
Speaker 6: Lebron where it was like lean down, not big weights
Speaker 6: and stuff like that, because it was about, hey, I'm
Speaker 6: a goat the longevity of my career is probably not
Speaker 6: best to be trying to throw up the heaviest weights.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 4: You know what, now I'm thinking, I don't remember seeing
Speaker 4: TV twelve workout.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't say that.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm saying I'm saying, like I think he was
Speaker 4: working out with his own guy, you know, like he
Speaker 4: was working out with his own guy. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: he wasn't working out. I'm saying like the team facilitated, like, hey,
Speaker 4: go to the weight room during this wing.
Speaker 5: All the time, Like I didn't see him in there.
Speaker 6: We put it to you this way. You've ever covered baseball,
Speaker 6: there's definitely some times when you're in the locker room,
Speaker 6: particularly with well you're just gonna call out middle relievers,
Speaker 6: where you're just like this person just walking around. There's
Speaker 6: no way you're guessing, oh, pro athlete, but just say
Speaker 6: by body types, you know, if there was a position
Speaker 6: in the NFL, maybe not so where the game is
Speaker 6: going right now, at the quarterback position, but let's say
Speaker 6: maybe around that time early in Brady's career, I'm back
Speaker 6: quarterback would be the position where I'm like, I don't
Speaker 6: know that these guys are necessarily in the back. I
Speaker 6: mean obviously we've seen Shorter look like a trucker. I
Speaker 6: mean that, so I'm thinking Len Dawson smoking SIGs, you
Speaker 6: know at halftime.
Speaker 5: You know they're Kentucky quarterback. Who was his name.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying like there wasn't as much that would
Speaker 6: be that that would be the player that would most
Speaker 6: be like a Pitcher to me where you're like, you
Speaker 6: don't have to be You're not running all around. You
Speaker 6: got to run the office a.
Speaker 5: Kicker who was the kicker out of Oakland. H Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: To play to your point, I was downtown and.
Speaker 2: We were this was this past offseason, so this was like, uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe March ish, and it was it
Speaker 2: was before spring training and it was after the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: so it was right around that, like March time, early
Speaker 2: March whenever I was. We were just kind of hanging
Speaker 2: out with some family and friends and stuff, and we
Speaker 2: were in one of the hotel lobbies. I can't remember
Speaker 2: which one it was, and all of a sudden, my
Speaker 2: wife looks up and she goes, hey, who is that?
Speaker 2: Who is that person? Turn around and it was Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2: So very timely with what it is. Was Matthew Stafford
Speaker 2: of course, went to Highland Park still has a place
Speaker 2: here in Dallas.
Speaker 1: And he just kind of walked in.
Speaker 2: No one in the bark new Yeah, not even a
Speaker 2: single soul even recognized, And then if they did, they
Speaker 2: kept it under wraps, kind of like what we were doing,
Speaker 2: just kind of chilling and hanging out. Sure enough, he
Speaker 2: goes and sits next to somebody who had been at
Speaker 2: the bar for a solid twenty five minutes, Clayton Kershaw,
Speaker 2: his childhood friend who also went to Highland Park pitcher quarterback, and.
Speaker 5: The whole bar just was oblivious to the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Hotel you staying at, Kyle, I wasn't staying at the hotel.
Speaker 3: We went there for high money.
Speaker 6: Kyle just pushed his way right between the two of them.
Speaker 1: Kept going.
Speaker 3: Was like, is that Kyle Yeomans, That's not what happens.
Speaker 6: He's a guy though, that I feel is like leaning down.
Speaker 6: The longer he's played in the NFL. Sure, Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 6: you can just see it, really, you could just see it.
Speaker 6: Like there's that really popular video of Tom Brady, Like
Speaker 6: his face, the way it's changed like throughout his career,
Speaker 6: how he's like like really skinny in the face like that.
Speaker 6: I think Stafford would be pretty similar.
Speaker 5: Opposite has happened when with coaches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe uh Isaiah who needs to have their biggest
Speaker 2: game on the Dallas offense to to ensure success on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Who's got to step up their game against this matchup?
Speaker 1: I think CD will have his biggest game.
Speaker 4: But I feel like to yes, really yeah, but I
Speaker 4: feel like I feel like Tony Pollard needs to find Oh,
Speaker 4: they have to find a way to get Tony Poller
Speaker 4: going right now. I feel like he's just I'm like present,
Speaker 4: like like.
Speaker 1: Just he's a local.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm not I'm not saying that's an
Speaker 4: incapability of him. I'm just saying that because of how
Speaker 4: he's been utilized, he hasn't had the splash plays. And
Speaker 4: for what he this is a this is his resume.
Speaker 4: Be real, now, this is his tryout. You can still
Speaker 4: look at it however you want to look at it.
Speaker 4: But I don't care that he's franchise tag. I mean
Speaker 4: his dude, he is vying for a job next year. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and this is his money here. So this right now,
Speaker 4: it's not looking great for him statistically, nor does this
Speaker 4: Does this brand of football match his brand right now,
Speaker 4: what he's trying to do going forward.
Speaker 5: And the rest of remaining part of his career.
Speaker 4: So I think they have to find a way not
Speaker 4: only to get those splash plays for him for himself,
Speaker 4: but I think for this team they need another threat.
Speaker 1: There's there's no threat right.
Speaker 4: Now, like you don't fear, And I think Mike and
Speaker 4: Micah was even talking about on his podcast. I believe
Speaker 4: it was yesterday this week, Like you don't. There's certain
Speaker 4: teams you fear, certain players like you're You're And when
Speaker 4: I say fear, I mean like you better be concerned
Speaker 4: about this person because otherwise they're gonna they're gonna they're
Speaker 4: gonna tax focused on. Yeah, you better be focused on
Speaker 4: otherwise they're gonna make you pay. Like Philly has their guys.
Speaker 4: Everybody that we played has their guys. Dallas ceedee, lamb,
Speaker 4: stop him. What do you gotta worry about?
Speaker 1: Crickets?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like that's where they're at
Speaker 4: right now, and I think they need the change that
Speaker 4: narrative so that you have to be concerned about out
Speaker 4: there right here at the tight end and the running back.
Speaker 4: We like, you have to be concerned about multiple points
Speaker 4: right now. It's just like, find a way to double
Speaker 4: CD and we're good.
Speaker 2: So if CD's one, would Tony be two on your list?
Speaker 2: Do you get the next priority?
Speaker 5: You have to get?
Speaker 1: Who would be the third priority?
Speaker 6: Cooks gotta be right, you think that's more important than
Speaker 6: any of the tight ends.
Speaker 4: No, Tyler be Ottish, Okay, Tyler be Oddish. If Tyler beis.
Speaker 2: Not even just skill guys, but guys that are able
Speaker 2: to be feared the guys that are.
Speaker 5: Okay, So what's the question, what's the.
Speaker 2: Out of the guys outside of CD Tony Potler, those
Speaker 2: are one and two of who are capable of being
Speaker 2: the feared parts of this off?
Speaker 1: Who else is on that priority list?
Speaker 5: All right? Then? If feared, I'll say Zach Martin.
Speaker 1: Okay, Zach, I can say that that has to be Zach.
Speaker 4: You if you don't, if you don't, if he if
Speaker 4: that front three, okay, Tyler Be Ottis, Tyler Smith and
Speaker 4: Zach Martin don't don't have like a solid, physical, demanding game.
Speaker 4: You're going to be surprised at how difficult it is
Speaker 4: to win his ball game.
Speaker 1: You got, You're going to be surprised.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like the strengths of Zach Martin and
Speaker 2: Tyler Smith hide some of the incapabilities of Tyler Beiottish
Speaker 2: at times?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: I think so too.
Speaker 2: Whenever I'm watching it in film, I can't help but
Speaker 2: think correct. Bettie gets helped out a lot by the
Speaker 2: fact that one he's looking next to a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: That's that's part of it. I mean, Zach Martin helps anybody.
Speaker 2: He would help me blocking out there if I could,
Speaker 2: just because he's Zach Martin. Tyler Smith. It's the strength.
Speaker 2: He's just got Superman strength to the left. And a
Speaker 2: lot of times if Beattish is left on an island,
Speaker 2: he's getting blown off the ball.
Speaker 5: He's the ice cream and ice cream sandwich.
Speaker 1: Okay, does that mean he can melt away? Did you
Speaker 1: just make this up?
Speaker 6: Or is this something that is as a term behind
Speaker 6: the scenes.
Speaker 3: Like that?
Speaker 5: Okay, what was it?
Speaker 6: I don't know if this is something like you know
Speaker 6: term that.
Speaker 5: No, he is ice cream.
Speaker 4: And if you don't, I mean, if you don't have
Speaker 4: that pressure and here's go, it's gonna fall apart.
Speaker 6: But isn't that the best part?
Speaker 1: It can be?
Speaker 3: It can be, it can also not be.
Speaker 6: When is ice cream never not the best part?
Speaker 1: Whenever it's melted.
Speaker 7: Down, whenever it's the wrong flavor, if it's melted and soggy.
Speaker 6: I think the wrong flavor of ice cream is still
Speaker 6: better than almost anything else.
Speaker 2: See, And I think that's good because I'm not saying
Speaker 2: Tyler Biottish is a bad player.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he has some in capabilities.
Speaker 5: He's the weak spot in this office line. And that's
Speaker 5: the fact.
Speaker 6: That's I don't think you're saying anything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't agree.
Speaker 1: He made a Pro Bowl last year. He's a good player.
Speaker 1: Out of five.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would put Terren Steel at five.
Speaker 5: You feel I.
Speaker 1: Don't think you're alone in that regard.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 7: I think I think what the reason I the reason
Speaker 7: I could be edge is because of everything he could
Speaker 7: do pre snap for that offense, and I think that's invaluable.
Speaker 7: If we're not factoring that in, then okay, I'll put
Speaker 7: Terrence Steel for.
Speaker 4: Okay, So Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald's gonna line up over
Speaker 4: Tea Steel sometimes, Yep, Aaron Donald's gonna line up over
Speaker 4: Tyler be Oddish.
Speaker 5: Which one do you feel more confident with? One on one?
Speaker 1: There you go neither.
Speaker 4: I understand what I'm saying, But if you had to
Speaker 4: choose that, I have a greater I have a greater
Speaker 4: chance of survival with this guy versus versus Aaron Donald.
Speaker 7: I would put Terrence Steele. But it's because Aaron Donald
Speaker 7: is an interior guy.
Speaker 5: He's a he's a whatever.
Speaker 6: Guy also, but that also puts him further away. So
Speaker 6: that's why I would probably go with it.
Speaker 3: I agree with you.
Speaker 6: I would agree with you because he was on the outside.
Speaker 6: It's farther away we're talking.
Speaker 3: We're talking Michael Parsons, and it would be Tyler Bead.
Speaker 5: I want a lot.
Speaker 4: I want everybody to pay attention to how they go
Speaker 4: after Dallas's offense. I know we gotta get at it,
Speaker 4: but like they're going to literally line up with Aaron
Speaker 4: Donald over tyled Beiada, and they're going to have the
Speaker 4: other tackles over Tyler Smith and over.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get after Tyrone Smith too. Tyron can't move
Speaker 2: as well as he used to. Tyran, Tyron's gonna make
Speaker 2: him move. Tyrann's weakness is bull Rush. And that's why
Speaker 2: I say Kilo Mack was gonna have a day, and
Speaker 2: he did have a day, right, Like bull Rush gets
Speaker 2: gets Tyler against Tyn Smith right now, that's his thing, right,
Speaker 2: he doesn't.
Speaker 1: He's not hunkering down.
Speaker 4: I'm less concerned about people running the edge on him
Speaker 4: because he has those go go gadget arms still, right,
Speaker 4: He's not as quick as he used to be, but
Speaker 4: he can still get his hand on you and run
Speaker 4: you by. You get up underneath him, and you actually
Speaker 4: have the technique and the power and the strength to
Speaker 4: be able to get underneath him like a Khalil Matt.
Speaker 4: That gives him problems right now because he just can't
Speaker 4: you get your hand in his chest.
Speaker 1: He just can't. He's not sitting down on that knee
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have that anchor.
Speaker 4: But I really think that those three interior alignment are
Speaker 4: going to be isoed. They're gonna be isoed, and they're
Speaker 4: going to force right Terrence Steele in Tyron to go
Speaker 4: and be able to win their one on one matchups
Speaker 4: and try.
Speaker 5: To get up to the next level.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be very difficult to work up to the
Speaker 4: linebacker level against his team because they are literally gonna say,
Speaker 4: I want Aaron Donald one on one with one of
Speaker 4: these three guys, and if I have to choose, I'm
Speaker 4: choosing I'm choosing sixty three.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's it is a conversation, and the.
Speaker 2: Concerning side of it is the fact that it always
Speaker 2: will be.
Speaker 1: A conversation from this point forward. For the rest to
Speaker 1: the regular season.
Speaker 2: They're gonna see they're gonna see some great defensive fronts.
Speaker 2: They're gonna see some great front sevens, and we're gonna
Speaker 2: have this conversation, i'm sure down the line, and we'll
Speaker 2: see more film on what they're able to do against
Speaker 2: ninety nine, what they're able to do against Aaron Donald
Speaker 2: in this front. But the truth of the matter is
Speaker 2: this is not the best front they're gonna see, but
Speaker 2: they're still gonna be challenged.
Speaker 1: This might be the best individuals.
Speaker 4: It is the best individual defensive lineman they will face. However,
Speaker 4: he's also the quickest. What they have to deal with
Speaker 4: going forth next week is size and straight just just
Speaker 4: just mammoth humans that are strong.
Speaker 5: This guy is gonna beat you with quickness and explosiveness.
Speaker 4: So pad level right, not getting not putting your head
Speaker 4: down right, being like having like your feet underneath you.
Speaker 4: All that stuff matters. Otherwise you're gonna be laid. He'll
Speaker 4: olay you.
Speaker 5: So I don't know.
Speaker 6: I guess it's wrong to look at it this way,
Speaker 6: but I just look at it as if you can
Speaker 6: somewhat control him. There aren't a lot of guys on
Speaker 6: the defense agree.
Speaker 4: You agree, and that's why they're gonna go man to
Speaker 4: man on the interiority old line. Yeah, man, they're gonna
Speaker 4: go three three guys right in the middle. We gotta
Speaker 4: get out of here. Got a good talk.
Speaker 1: About it all day. Great job on QB Vision. Got
Speaker 1: a great look at what the.
Speaker 2: Cowboys offense and the Rams defense will do on Sunday.
Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Let's say, with Chest Friday, we'll update our Pickham standings.
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