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Speaker 1: Culture Estas and today I've got a bomb mask guest.

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Speaker 1: It's a bomb mass guest, not it? I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: But in this in this instance, I would say that

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a skill because we have tried it.

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Speaker 1: It's tough. How many times have we suck up? We

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Speaker 1: sunk up all the fucking time. Maybe sometimes we don't

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about this later. Shocks, it shocks. And she

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Speaker 1: like I have something going on, Well, she does have

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Speaker 1: something going on. And her name is Ray Sunny. Nice.

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Speaker 1: You guys are so nice. And that was like the

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Speaker 1: nicest and the coolest description of anything I do. Let

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Speaker 1: is still know. Yeah, she calls you and she says, Hi, um,

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Speaker 1: like she cares because I can see a doctor now. Yes,

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Speaker 1: have herpies simplex virus one. But ever your could stars

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Speaker 1: I think I've been getting cold sores every other fall.

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Speaker 1: don't have herbies zoster, which I have, which is just

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Speaker 1: the shingles virus. Oh you know, I never had chicken

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Speaker 1: those books to me that I've never read. There has

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Speaker 1: been such this. It's part of this like monolith of

423
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: books that's just like I can't approach. It's like it's like,

424
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: I please, I don't know if it's fair to like

425
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: put that with infinite jestin limped that together with like

426
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: this thing is it's not quite that hard. I know

427
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,719
Speaker 1: it's it's much more accessible, but for me, it's just

428
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm intimidated by Like well, I really was

429
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: very grateful that I read it with a teacher who

430
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: had taught it before, because it is really hard. It's beautiful,

431
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: the pros is score just everything feels like a beautifully

432
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: worded treatise, and it is, but I'm very grateful that

433
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: I had someone to talk it out with in parton

434
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: because the book is about one thing, but when you're

435
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: reading it, it can feel like it's about another thing.

436
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: It feels like a romance novel into some degree is,

437
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: but it's not. And it's like important to have someone

438
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: who can see beyond your teenage self centered self to

439
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: recognize that this is like a commentary on the world

440
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: we're in and how we should live in it, as

441
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: opposed to like indulging in all your sad feelings. Totally

442
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: totally well, I mean, okay, so fast forward to now,

443
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: in what ways are you indulging in those? I mean,

444
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: like maybe you think about like childbirth and child and

445
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: you fucking child. He's not a child. I was telling

446
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, year old, and I'm like, don't

447
00:25:54,480 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: you know a lot of whatever I'm during I feel

448
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: so old. I need a baby three years between us.

449
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: It's nothing. I told myself, you can't rough my first name.

450
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: I called myself that when I'm talking to myself. But

451
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, you need to stop talking to people born

452
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: after I was born in and people treat me like that.

453
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: It's so like, it's so interesting this thing that's happening

454
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: that happens a lot, which is like like how old

455
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: are you? And I'm like twenty seven and they're like oh,

456
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: and then it's like it's like I don't know. It's

457
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: like I will wonder, it will very soon, so like

458
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: it's okay, I'm also on my way there. I'm with you.

459
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: But the thing is like it's you know, I didn't

460
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: realize it because I would often be like, oh, why

461
00:26:54,520 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: do you care? Seven five? It really is like E

462
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: V Show references. That's all that's the difference. But it's

463
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: a big one because I'd be like, oh, did you

464
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: watch Recess or Pepper? And yes, okay, But then somebody

465
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: who's like twenty four won't say, oh, I know what recesses? Okay,

466
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,239
Speaker 1: we we fell in that windows, that girl what's her name?

467
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: What's her name? Pepper and Pepper insane? But there are

468
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: it's interesting now, Like I think for me it happened

469
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: when I was maybe I was like I was like,

470
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: oh wait, I'm on the other side, and that made

471
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: me feel weird and I expressed that out loud and

472
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: someone was like, yeah, you're oh, oh, that's so sad

473
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 1: because we're in New York. It's just like everywhere else,

474
00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: everybody understands the anxiety of being over because everywhere else

475
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: is doing life a lot faster than we are, and

476
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: there's a scriptive. Yeah, yeah, they have their stones count.

477
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: So like, if you said this to somebody who's you're

478
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: from Long Island, I'm sure the response would be different.

479
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: And you know, like also people I don't know, I'm

480
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: imagining that person was an entertainment and yes they were.

481
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: They like to do them. Yeah, Rule number one and

482
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: two the performative. Um, I will say this has been

483
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: fucking with me. One of my best friends from high school, Emily,

484
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: is now fully like nine months pregnant, and it's crazy

485
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: that she's married. I don't when she got married, I

486
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, this is insane. And now

487
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: another one of my best friend frid school was married

488
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: and like probably gonna get a pregnant student and the

489
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: engagements keep coming and everything. The pregnancy is what really

490
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: got me, he said, was like, oh my god, some

491
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: one that is my age that I went through a

492
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: lot of things with is having a child and that

493
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: will start to define their life going forward, and that

494
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: makes that does make you question where you're at. My

495
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: father had me late. My father was thirty five, my

496
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: mother was twenty eight, which is funny because thirty five

497
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: isn't really late, but it like is for them in

498
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: that time. For I bet my dad was anxious at

499
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: thirty s. I bet he was, like, I haven't really

500
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: ever asked him that, but I bet that, you know,

501
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: coming around to two, my dad met my mom when

502
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: he was thirty four, Like, that's gotta be a thing,

503
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: especially when his mother was seventeen when she had him. Yeah. Yeah,

504
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: my mom was, and she had emigrated from Nigeria and

505
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: I had a kid before. When I turned twenty eight,

506
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, my mom had two

507
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: kids and had left Africa and I am just figuring

508
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: out how to make baked Maggie. I mean, are we

509
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: assigning too much meaning to that necessarily? No, I don't

510
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: think we are, because time is time and there's so

511
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: much of it. But we're in a different time. Yes, yes,

512
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: But I think they're just you know, as even if

513
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: you're like, fortunately that's not the case with my mom,

514
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: but like even if you guys are like so different

515
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: that you don't share the same values, even if that

516
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: were the case, there's some ship that you grow up

517
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: learning that's residual. And so I feel like, you know,

518
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: even though I know it doesn't matter that I didn't

519
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: get this degree or like you know, didn't have kid

520
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: here and whatever I know don't matter in the grand

521
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: scop there. And I'm sure it doesn't even matter. She

522
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: isn't I have a nephew, she has a grandkid. She's cool,

523
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: But there's still something every now and then this shows

524
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: up in the backy head. You're like, oh, yeah, we

525
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: were told Nightgerian women should be married, and it's ingrained

526
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: in there somewhere, it's imprinted. I mean yeah, like my

527
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: dad saying to me that, like he's the oldest out

528
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: of his sibling, he's the oldest male, which means that

529
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: his son me I technically carry the family line, even

530
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: though I have an older male cousin on that side

531
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: of the family. But he's the first so the so

532
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: the male firstborn of the first son, your Prince William.

533
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm Prince William and so. And I was even because

534
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: he was in town last night and I was even

535
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: talking to him about this, and he brought that up,

536
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: and I was like, but Dad, it doesn't matter anymore.

537
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: And I thought I was right and I was like,

538
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: but Dad, I was I thought I was being so

539
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: like progressive and I was like, but it shouldn't matter,

540
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: and he goes, no, it does. And I was like

541
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: him saying, no, it does. Is just it's it's it's

542
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: like that rule in the rule book that you're like,

543
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense. But someone could say it,

544
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: but it's for him, and it's like for him to

545
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: have like beaten that into my psyche for so long

546
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: like a he said, no it does. I was like,

547
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 1: you're right, it does. I mean, I'll never forget the moment.

548
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: And I remember the moment that I realized I was

549
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: gay at eleven years old. I was getting into bed

550
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: and I looked at the window and I was looking

551
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: up at like I was like thinking about my day

552
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: that day, and I remembered how playing in the pool

553
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: with my friend and I was like, wow, I love

554
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: my friend. I love when he comes over. I love

555
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: like his back, I love like his back. I really

556
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: want to touch his back. Oh yeah, it was. It

557
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: was I'm a grown up, I'm a complex sexual being.

558
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: Even at I was like still looking at long eyelashes

559
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: out back. Oh no, I'm not cock. So basically, like

560
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: I remember that that moment, I was like, oh my god,

561
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: I want to funk my friend. I The first thing

562
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: I thought was I won't have a son. No, I

563
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, I have a sister. I

564
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: have a sister who will take someone else's name, and

565
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 1: my family line quote unquote will die because my my

566
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: dad has to um sisters and they didn't take they

567
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: didn't care to, so the Rogers name would die. So

568
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I was like, oh my god,

569
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: it was very similar to your situation. You still have

570
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: Fred Rogers. He's out there in the universe somewhere. But

571
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is, I'll break this news

572
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: Fred Rogers. I'm sure he's like super sweet kids, you

573
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: know what. Yes, I would love to find out that

574
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: I was just related. But in the meantime, I was like, oh, ship, Like,

575
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: it's so crazy. That was my first number one concern

576
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: was my god, my parents, specifically my father are going

577
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: to be so mad when and so upset and disappointed

578
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: when they find out that I am going to be

579
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: the reason that our name and that is a thing

580
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: you know that reminds me of a thing, and I'm

581
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: going to be the annoying straight girl. So I was

582
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: watching a bunch of Netflix documentaries during my break and

583
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: there was a dock in the political section about you

584
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: know that I can't remember what was it called outrage

585
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: where they like talked about outing gay politicians who were

586
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: working against Yes exactly. So that actually Larry Craig was

587
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: the entry point into the documentary. And then they talked

588
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: about a whole bunch of other Republican people because the

589
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: documentary memory was made maybe oh night, um, so like

590
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 1: they were talking about a whole bunch of other people

591
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: who had been in cockers at the time that I

592
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: had no clue about. But one of the things that

593
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: resonated with me, and this is what what you just

594
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: said reminded me of um, Jim McGreevy, who was the

595
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: Jersey governor who was gay and he was about to

596
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: be outed because he had hired this Israeli, unqualified Israeli

597
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: guy to work and his administered station because he was

598
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: having an affair with that guy. And he was married

599
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: with children, and you know, you know how all these

600
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: cheata as governors do, they bring they wives out and

601
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: they're standing, they're sad and all of that. Yeah, she

602
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: forgives me and she's like standing there like sad and

603
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: won't you. But um, I think he resigned. He resigned

604
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: because first he was the first, um they called him

605
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: the first openly gay governor of New Jersey. I was like,

606
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: I don't know how if he's he had to come

607
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: out because he all was about to get to it first.

608
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: But um, so they went through the whole thing, and

609
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: his wife, UM was not angry with him. She was

610
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: embarrassed and and they divorced. But I think they have

611
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: an amicable relationship at the moment. But one of the

612
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: things he said that was like mind blowing, and I

613
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: had never considered this before. He was like, you know, Um,

614
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: I grew up in a Catholic family in New Jersey,

615
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: Like when I figured out I was gay, we were

616
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: super Catholic, and so like the place I'm supposed to

617
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: go to find love, which is God, is really really

618
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: harsh and critical of gay people. And he like talked

619
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: about how, okay, well I can't learn about being gay

620
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: and being a full human being at church, but let

621
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: me go to the library to like hear about other

622
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: gay people and learn about gay people. But you're a

623
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: young kid in the seventies, ain't no books about dope.

624
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: Gay people are not immediately accessible. And I was really

625
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: struck by that because even if as a black woman,

626
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: like people elsewhere tell me I'm not dope, I had

627
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: black parents who countered that at the very least, and

628
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: I could might be harder to find. But I grew

629
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: up in East New York, Brooklyn. Yeah there were books

630
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: for black kids there, But I can't imagine being I

631
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: am unlike everybody I know and nothing. There's nothing that

632
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: you can learn elsewhere. There's no Google. You have this

633
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: in a whole other level than I have this. But

634
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: it's like I just remember the horror of it being

635
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: I could not see my future, Like I could not

636
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: see a world where I was happy, or where I

637
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: had any of the things that my parents had or

638
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: any of my friends had, Like it was like you

639
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: could not see it. Like like then, I remember when

640
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: I was in high school, like the first celebrity, and

641
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: I remember I had a strong infatuation with him because

642
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: of this. But when Neil Patrick Harris became like a thing,

643
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: when when he was there was like there was like

644
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: a window there was a good window where he was hot.

645
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: And you know why, It's because he was playing a

646
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: straight character fucking lots of chicks. No, it was you

647
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: think we've internalized. I think we have definitely internalized it.

648
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: And I think the only reason he was even allowed

649
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: to a be gay and it was like it's fine

650
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: because because he was able to portray the smashing character.

651
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: And I also think the only reason why his character

652
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,959
Speaker 1: was able to be as misogynistic as he was because

653
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: everyone was like, he's actually gay, so we can play

654
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: this game. So it was a weird area where like

655
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: we kind of pretended this wasn't a CBS AS show,

656
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: where it was a CBS A S show. Um, so

657
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: you're saying Neil Patrick Harris to you, was like he

658
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: was he was so important to me because he at least,

659
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: even though it was a little fucked up, he at

660
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: least represented some sort of homosexuality complex almost some sort

661
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: of homosexual complexity, whereas that complexity is magic tracks exactly

662
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: finally a gay man. And that is different from and

663
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm actually being no, no, no, I know

664
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: you are, but I know you understand. But but it's

665
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: interesting because literally all we had before that was Will

666
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: and Grace. Yeah, I was gonna bring up Roland Grace

667
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: and oh we had before that was for the straight guy. Um.

668
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: I wish I had seen as a child this vision

669
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: of beauty Wong I r l at a New Year's part.

670
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: I think I've talked about this in the pod before,

671
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: but oh my god, what is this image's well, he's

672
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: so adorable, the best icon for I love him on Sorry,

673
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: I think about you. No, I'm a pre spu as bitch.

674
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: See this is why we're talking about age different TV references.

675
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: But there was a show called OZ. Yeah, I watched

676
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: OZ in real time. I don't know where my parents were.

677
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: They should have been raising you. You were watching in

678
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: real time as a young like OZ finished when I

679
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: was like if teen, And there were a lot of

680
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: things I should never see. First of all, I saw stablers,

681
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: but before a's neck it happened, yeah yeah, And then

682
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: and then his boyfriend biting someone else's dick off and

683
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: they were trying to rape him and it was crazy.

684
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: But yes, I knew Chris Maloney was fine before everybody

685
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: else stared. But also beat Wang was on OS. He

686
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: was the priest who everybody would like go to to

687
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: like you know, confess or like, um, you know, he

688
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: would perform. I don't know. He never got in trouble

689
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: like that. Um. He was actually like weirdly very very

690
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: like the one of two, like pure, he was de sexualized.

691
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: But but the framing around his de sexualization was his

692
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: being a priest. And they had I don't remember specific episodes,

693
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: but I do remember there being a storyline about a

694
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: struggle to be a like absence of sex. Um, So

695
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: I might have to revisit that. Don't beat them up

696
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure.

697
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure there was like a there was at

698
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: least a conversation with other with the prisoners about the

699
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: struggle it is to take to de sexualize yourself to

700
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: be a priest. But he was, Oh my god, he

701
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: looks so good. He looks exactly the same. He looks

702
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: the same age, and like, he's amazing. Jurassic World is

703
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: the same as Dreassic Park. Yeah, he looks like I

704
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: remember him from Jurassic Park. Oh yeah, he was in

705
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: Jurassic Park. He plays the same character in Jurassic World.

706
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: He had glasses in Durassic Park and the Glasses and

707
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: Durrassic World, because all these like super hot men who

708
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: are like so gorgeous and young looking like for Rell

709
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: makes me dizzy, insane. It's in saying, it's like, what

710
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: do you do? But that's rich people stuff. They drink

711
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: in rish people water. You know who else? To Ryan Philippa,

712
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: he does still look baby see everyone followed Ryan Philippin

713
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: and also Weatherspoon. They both I mightna get back together.

714
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: You know, only people aging like magicians. Have you seen

715
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: their kids? Just daughter looks exactly like her and is stunning,

716
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: and it's it's mind blowing that they have like seventeen

717
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: year olds. So they were one of those young as

718
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: married couples who had kids. They were like very young,

719
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: like they got married at twenty or something. They were young.

720
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: They were married anyway. Just this beady well image of

721
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 1: his newest party two years ago. He just makes kanji

722
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: like this porridge, just like savory Chinese porridge for everybody.

723
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: But he's at his kitchen just wearing like other high

724
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: heels like this fucking laced up all the way up

725
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: to his knees. And I was like, and you think

726
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: he had lipstick on and it was like you are

727
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, Like I went to his party, um,

728
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry name drop going to be because because

729
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: Joel told me once like heard a rumor that Beaty

730
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: Wong hosts a brunch for a bunch of like media

731
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: gag ins every week wonderful and Joel never like, we

732
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: have to go to this, we have to go, And

733
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: we kept tweeting him. One day we were like, is

734
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: this true? Do you really have this brunch? And he

735
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: was like l O L maybe and then and then

736
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: friends and I think some co star with him on

737
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: Gotham was like, oh, I'm going to his party. You

738
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: should come with a works He's always yes, yeah, he's great.

739
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: And then um we went over there and he was

740
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: just cooking and he was very sweet and um but

741
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: I was like, but this is all to say. I

742
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: wish I'd seen that as a kid because I knew

743
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: were because shouldn't let you watch My parents let me

744
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: get away with it some bullshit. Um, like they let

745
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: me watch like fucking I mean, I wouldn't have cable,

746
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: but they let me watch like Mad TV, which was

747
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: like my dad watched Mad TV with me. All kinds

748
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: of ship should it was bad and it was I think,

749
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: I think because half the time, but they thought, oh

750
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: it SNL and the and they recognized SNL. But and

751
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: I thought I would parents and literally any parents. Mad

752
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: TV came on. They were like, oh, this must be

753
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: SNL and so but Man TV, we know something else.

754
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know Mad TV. I like, I

755
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: like when I think about Matt TV, I go, wow.

756
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: I think I learned every stereotype, every type of from watch.

757
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: And that's actually very impressive of the show to do,

758
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: to be able to have so many Hackney I think

759
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: I learned about white women from Nicole Sullivan doing Britney

760
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: Spears and they did. Do you sometimes missed that I

761
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: do miss like sometimes stupid, stupid, broad ass dumb because

762
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't have general Oh my god, they

763
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: didn't Cole Sullivan as Britney Spears. They did it behind

764
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: the music mean, while she was shooting the video for

765
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: a baby woman, Defer Wilson plays Brandy and like Brandy

766
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: supposed to be a feature, and then Nicolet like, will

767
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: you be in my video? And then defer Wilson his

768
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: Brandy is like no as Brandy as Brandy. It was.

769
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: The song was lick my Baby back behind Lick my

770
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: Baby bed, and they changed the melodies just enough. When

771
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: I saw my gon wait tad years old, Deborah was

772
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: Mariah Carrey and she's like, and I'm crazy. The whole

773
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: thing was just was crazy, crazy, crazy everywhere crazy. The

774
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: game of all these sketches this bit crazy. You know.

775
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: There was like two Matt TVs though, because I don't

776
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: know this Keegan Michael Key. Oh. I didn't even get

777
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: to Angela Johnston y'all, yeah, because I fell off after

778
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: Airy Spears probably the first Airy Spears. I just remember

779
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: a distinct sketch of him doing a Chris rock inmpression. Uh,

780
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: this is this show is so bad. So he's doing

781
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: a Chris Rocket pression and it's Chris. You know how

782
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: Chris Rock had put out that song No Sex in

783
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: the Champagne Room, so he like basically does at Cadence.

784
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: It's not a song, I don't think, but he's like

785
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: giving the what the names of the network television station

786
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: stand for? And I've like vaguely because up n um

787
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: c W is now UPAN and I loved You Pian.

788
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: They had like a slew of really dope black shows

789
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: for a long time, and so girlfriends. They had parks, Yes,

790
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: they had Moitia, they had the Parkers, they had a

791
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: bunch of There was also one called Homeboys and Out

792
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: of Space that I really loved that I'm embarrassing, No,

793
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: it's coonery a black don't watch it. I just love

794
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: it because I think flex Alexander's the hottest dude ever.

795
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: But anyway, so I just remember a sketch with ari

796
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: Is doing a Chris Rock impression, going, you be in

797
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: underpaying niggas showing nuts like truly would never fly today,

798
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: Fucking Alex Borstein playing Asian with the Miss Swan, like,

799
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? I think the only do you

800
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: like it? I love it? You like? Do you like

801
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: Miss Swan? I was obsessed with Alice Borstine growing up.

802
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: I was like this living. I was like, this lady

803
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: is the funniest woman I've ever Okay, how does it?

804
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: No adult bowen? Adult? Yeah, watch dog lasses unacceptable, unacceptable,

805
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: but it's so funny. It's so funny. Angela Johnson did

806
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: bunk queakly bunk quickly, and she didn't was bun queek queen.

807
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: Have you seen her stand? Up where she straight up

808
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 1: does I mean it's a no, she does a flawless

809
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: Vietnamese like Neil Salon. Yeah yeah, so wait Vietnamese was no, no, no,

810
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: this isn't her stand up when what I mean like

811
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: this she's doing a Vietnamese she specifically doing she does

812
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: like a Vietnamese like Nelson was, Koreans do something, okay,

813
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: but she she does this bit which was really like

814
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: it was why her stand up was popular. It was

815
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: because she was doing these accents to a Nel Salon

816
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: and basically the girls that work with the Nelson talking

817
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: to her and what they sounded like what they said,

818
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: and that was her whole bit. And and people ate

819
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: that shut up, like people ate that shut up. Both

820
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 1: of her big things were like huge appropriation bits. Yeah.

821
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why she's not amount. I mean, I don't

822
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: think Twitter that's why she was in my brain. I

823
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: saw a picture of her on Twitter. She also has

824
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: not aged at all. I wish at the master. She's

825
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: very talented. She's super talented. It's just it sometimes makes

826
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: you wonder, like what what is it that a like

827
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: she never did anything again, like what it didn't that

828
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: make you did someone? It's just not on the level

829
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: as maybe you thought she was going to get because

830
00:49:54,680 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: she had these huge moments. No, no, no, the black

831
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: Twitter ripped apart like you have someone for a second

832
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: was like is he Azelia's got a new single? And

833
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: I was like, no, she doesn't. I was like, you

834
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: think she does? Know she doesn't, has a career never existed.

835
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: But the other day I was on my Spotify. I

836
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: was listening to my Spotify and like I was on

837
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: like an old playlist and then I all of a

838
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: sudden it was like it was Black Widow, like hate

839
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Speaker 1: you that one where she's just and I'm like listening

840
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: to her wrap and I'm like, you are doing a

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00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: crazy black Southern accent, which is insane. She's a tiny

842
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: girl from Australia. It's her name is Amethyst. Insane what

843
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: she's doing? She like she went to Houston then went

844
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: to like who who did you know? It's crazy, It's

845
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: it's insane to listen to it, and it is something

846
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: that's very distracting too, like like blonde tips on metrosexuals

847
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: will look back on ig the Frost, the Frost. Remember

848
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: when white boys um that like in metrosexual age were

849
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: like just bleaching the dip of their hair. They would

850
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: jell their hair and just bleach the tip. I even

851
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: knew at the time. I was like, I'm not doing

852
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: that because there is no way that has staying power. No,

853
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: do you um, oh my god, you know what I'm

854
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: thinking of it. He didn't have just the tips though.

855
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: Did you watch The Real World? No? Probably not, but

856
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: The Real World in New Orleans the first one. What

857
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: year was that? Do you know? It's probably like I

858
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: really kind of started. Well, there was a gay a

859
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: gay guy on that show too. He was the first.

860
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: He was the first because I didn't see but he

861
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: was the one who had a boyfriend who was in

862
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: the military and they had to block His name is

863
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: Danny and they had to block him block his boyfriend

864
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: when his boyfriend came visit because it was still don't ask,

865
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: Don't tell Era. That was like huge for me in

866
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: terms of like seeing gay people, because I don't think

867
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: I saw them before. It was like Ellen and him

868
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: at the time, I think, um, but uh, but like

869
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: uh yeah. There was a boy Matt, who was Mormon

870
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: and but he like was really cute. And there was

871
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: this girl Julie who was also some kind of evangelical

872
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: or Mormon or something, and she had a crush on

873
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: him because they were both virgins and she thought that

874
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: they would like, you know, get married or whatever when

875
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: I was but I just remember Matt being like, oh,

876
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: like this like virgin nineteen year olds like Matt with

877
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: the pretty boy lived but he like had the but

878
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: he was like a natural blonde and he had the cut,

879
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: you know. The backstreet they called Brian latreuelle. I don't

880
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: think Brian no, no, no, but we call it that

881
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: because of why not? Why not? Right? Exactly? It was

882
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,959
Speaker 1: the every boy band made up by Ron Proman, who's

883
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: a using one person and at least one of these

884
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: mand We want to get his name because he's a

885
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 1: pedophile and we should all know his name. Ron Proman

886
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: is Oh my god, I'm so sorry. He's the guy

887
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: from Sons, his Anarchy, Beauty and the Beast. He's the like,

888
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: he's the guy who's always let's just say he's a pedophile.

889
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: No so good about being like woke on Twitter. Let's

890
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: let's not. We can find somebody who like it's terrible,

891
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: like loves Tron, we call him. I have someone who's

892
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: terrible and you can and I want to talk about this. Okay,

893
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,959
Speaker 1: okay you Ray was at I don't think so Honey

894
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,479
Speaker 1: Live show. Yes, and here's the deal. You can listen

895
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: to this on spoke right now or on the actual

896
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: our feed, our podcast feed next week and about a

897
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: week about a week when it will be on our channel.

898
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: But Ray decided to go into the trouble and picked

899
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: out Elizabeth Moss. Now, this is a bit who deserves

900
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: to get red. And I've been thinking about this since

901
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: you did your incredible I don't think it was amazing.

902
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: I want to give full credit to Marsha Belski because

903
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: Marcia was like having problems because Marsha was trying to

904
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: watch handmaid Sale and she was like, I don't I

905
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: don't get how she reconciles this. And also during the

906
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: promotion for Handmad's til, she would say dumb sh it like, um,

907
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm not feminist, it's not a feminist story. This week, Um,

908
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: someone commented on it. She did like Instagram and someone

909
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 1: was like hi, um, and they asked you that question,

910
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 1: like how do you reconcile your your faith with what's

911
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: on the show, what's being depicted on the show. Don't

912
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: you see some similarities. And she goes just a totally

913
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: actual lead to this person and was, actually, Scientology is

914
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: about open mindedness, and that's why that's what I really

915
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: love about Scientology. Thank you. She said, what's most important

916
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: to me is religious freedom. And I said to myself, Okay,

917
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: let's walk this back for a second. Religious freedom. When

918
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: I watch lah Remony Scientology and the aftermath, that does

919
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: sound like nobody's freedom, which I do watch and I

920
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: do believe because I watched these people on the show

921
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: and their accounts are very emotional and seemed very honest

922
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: to me, and their week after week after week they're

923
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: talking about sexual abuse, imprisonment. Um David mims Kevic's wife, No,

924
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: she appeared in the woods looking like ship six months ago.

925
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: They found her in the woods and then she wasn't

926
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: seen again. This is alleged. Is there were saying somehow

927
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: there was a photograph of her being a Bronte Sisters novel.

928
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: Here's the deal. It's like you, I am so confounded

929
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 1: by this because it's like someone's really got to sit

930
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: down with her and look her in the face with

931
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: a camera in her face and asked her this question,

932
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,399
Speaker 1: because how the fuck are you gonna have women coming

933
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: forward with stories of sexual assault and sexual abuse, life

934
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: long sexual abuse and assault and imprisonment, and you talk

935
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: about religious freedom religious freedom despite that, I mean, wasn't

936
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: she raised? She was raised, I don't think that's I

937
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: don't think she was. You know what I'm gonna find out.

938
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: Let's find out because I know the Masterson's are raised,

939
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: which is what is letting let them get away? And

940
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: like I's not letting, like and Beck was raised and

941
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: who's Beck's wife ex wife, some um, somebody. I was

942
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: very disappointed to find out what else as scientilogists. But like,

943
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's okay because you're raised, But

944
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: I feel about it how I feel about people who

945
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: don't fight their Trump supporter parents and then like try

946
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: to have it both ways. And Elizabeth Moss is just greedy,

947
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: oh sure, because literally every one of her characters is

948
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: a quote unquote feminist, every single Peggy, that shorty from

949
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: Top of the Lake, the handmads tail. She's greedy, and

950
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if she thinks it's a good marketing thing

951
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: or she identifies herself in these characters. I do not

952
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: think she grew up a scientologist. M parents were scient

953
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: producer Emma, Emma sometimes also amazing nails. Right now, I

954
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: wanted to say, Hot Producer, Joe, are not with us

955
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: right now? We have hot Emma and she's killing it,

956
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: killing it and she's giving information off the top of

957
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: her parents were. That means we think that she was

958
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: raised in scientology. Yes, okay, I think it's Shorty from

959
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: Orange is the New Black, the ex girlfriend Piper. Yeah,

960
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: so she's married to a Masterson or was Man and

961
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 1: the Master. No, she was married to the guy on

962
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: that little Brother from malcol in the Middle. So there,

963
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: Why do they just keep generating actors? That's so bizarre

964
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: and but yeah, so I think it's the kind of

965
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: thing where scientology is old enough for them to be grandchildren. Now.

966
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Moss is quoted as saying, um that she gives

967
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: her the faith, gives her stability. It makes her feel

968
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: like a better version of herself. Quote. I think that's

969
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: a good way of saying it, because there's so much

970
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: focus on the I guess empowerment and sort of respecting

971
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: yourself and yourself as an individual. It's a better you,

972
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: not necessarily changing who you are. I'm a big believer

973
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: in taking what works for you from different things. I

974
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for that. So my friends

975
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: may give me great advice or tough with my mother,

976
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: but personal freedom is a very important concept of my religion,

977
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: and I translate that to sexual orientation. I guess defending

978
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: the gay community because because you know, unfortunately to get

979
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: the Scientology's views on more than unfortunate. I mean, it's tragedy,

980
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: but she's trying to just she's trying to have it

981
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: both ways. And the factor matter, she's a fucking celebrity

982
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: and they treat them differently, and that she can't see that,

983
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: and the fact that she doesn't believe these women coming

984
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: forward and not just one or two women. You know, hundreds.

985
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: Did you watch that show? I only watched the pilot,

986
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: but I was obsessed with it. Actually, that's what I'm

987
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: gonna do right now when we leave, I'm going to

988
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: watch the show. But that a show that was based

989
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: on like Tom Cruise's story where they had that that

990
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: really hot guy who was like trying to find a

991
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: perfect Scientology wife. Oh, I've heard about that? What's that on?

992
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: It was? And I watched the pilot and I was like,

993
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: this is poorly written and I'm in love where they

994
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: had this young hot guy. So the stories of the

995
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: pilot at least was centered on this actress whose boyfriend

996
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: she just found out was cheating on her, and she

997
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: goes in front audition to play alongside this hot actor

998
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: who is Tom Cruise's character basically um and then he

999
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: doesn't pick her for the role, but he thinks she's

1000
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: the perfect public partner, and so basically they she like

1001
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: in the in the first episode, I don't know she

1002
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't remember she takes it, but she basically he's

1003
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: offering her a contract to be his girlfriend for like

1004
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: ten years or being a relationship for ten years. It's

1005
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: basically Tom and Katie. And it was intense and crazy

1006
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 1: and I totally believe that. I totally I believe everything,

1007
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: and honestly, I just feel like, well, I definitely think

1008
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: she's going to lose the fucking Emmy over it. And

1009
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 1: that's what everyone's when I think you wanted to have

1010
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: social consequences for that, Well, the thing is like for her,

1011
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: here's the t I have a question. Sorry to cut

1012
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: you off. Just like I believe in social consequences for

1013
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: trans transgressions such as though, I'm very curious because I've

1014
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: been seeing this kind of self delusion happen where when

1015
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: you provide them those like social consequences or whatever, they

1016
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: turned themselves into martyrs. Like that Ted Nugent thing did

1017
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: you see where He's like, oh, I can't get into

1018
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, the rock and roll Hall of

1019
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: Fame because I'm not PC enough. And that might be true,

1020
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: And then David Crosby was like, no, the Funker is

1021
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: just not good enough. But like, do you think they

1022
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: learned the lesson or you think they they they? I

1023
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: think what's important that what's important is that we we

1024
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: don't justify that ship. And if they want to talk

1025
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: about it like I didn't get on it for this reason,

1026
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: they can spin off into their own realms crazy and

1027
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: they still love that ship when there is evidence and

1028
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: social consequence for exactly. And I'm not saying that Himmaid

1029
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: Sale doesn't still do a great thing. I'm not I'm

1030
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: not saying it's not a great show. But there is

1031
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: a hypocrisy here which we must call out and she

1032
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:18,439
Speaker 1: has to answer for because she seems like an intelligent person.

1033
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: She's an incredible actor and you can't. And also the

1034
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: way she was promoting the show matters too, because she

1035
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: was undercutting, ultimately the feminist message in there, because there's

1036
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: no way you can watch a handmade in stale and

1037
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: be like, that's not a feminist show. And she did

1038
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: come out eventually after all the controversy and say, I

1039
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: just want to say in caps, of course it's a

1040
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: feminist show. But what I wanted to say was it

1041
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: so much more than that, And that is the feminist misunderstanding.

1042
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: But that that that feminism is limited to the problem

1043
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: is and we still do this, and it's mind blowing

1044
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: and it offends me every time I see an article

1045
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: that's like, whoa girl's trip a hundred million dollars? Can

1046
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: you believe it? Yeah? They we can believe it. We've

1047
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: been telling you the whole time. First of all, if

1048
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: you have a starved demographic and you finally give them

1049
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: something good that they want, they're gonna come out and drove.

1050
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: So that's first. But second, women have buying power. It's

1051
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: women who will buy stuff that they see in ads.

1052
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: Maybe a white guy will say to a wife or

1053
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: a mom, go, I'm not being stereotypical I'm just talking

1054
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: about research that they'll say, hey, I saw this thing

1055
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: I want. So if if a network or a movie

1056
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: or a TV show is aiming at their eighteen thirty

1057
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: five white mills that they always aim for, they have

1058
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: to realize that those aren't buying the ship that the

1059
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: advertisers are China. But there's just this not natural but

1060
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: there's just this American and Western and you know everything

1061
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: now because Westerners did whatever they wanted to do with

1062
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: every part of the world, but this natural desire to

1063
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: please and impress white, straight male audiences, Like there's no

1064
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: way that you did the handmaids Tale experience the character

1065
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: that you experienced you yourself for a woman, and say, oh,

1066
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: it's not just a feminist show or it's not an

1067
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: entirely feminist shows for everybody. If somebody at your network

1068
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: wasn't in your ear whispering, don't alienate white boys, and

1069
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: that's bullshit. It's bullshit because they don't even buy the

1070
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: products that Hulu has the ads for. I just like,

1071
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: be beholden to that, because that's the validation. I am

1072
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: still craving a real answer to that question because she

1073
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: is not only once, not only twice several times with

1074
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: Top of the Leg Mad Men, and now most crucially

1075
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: and most currently Handmaid's Tale, representing the is like really

1076
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: feminist iconic characters, and it's this hypocrisy behind it, and

1077
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: I think he's like, so ship. Yeah, I know you

1078
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: mentioned that. I tried to watch it, and I thought

1079
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: the same thing, although the second season has called him

1080
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: in which I was gig, but I haven't watched it.

1081
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: Her best role was playing the daughter of a patient

1082
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: on grades, and she was the overbearing I didn't even

1083
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: know she was on grade. It's like first or seconds.

1084
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: This is like season three. I remember the fucking old

1085
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: lady whose bones turned into stone like petrified bones. Oh

1086
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: my god. Yes, her daughter was Elizabeth Moss, who was

1087
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: this like who had the dollhouse and had those dolls

1088
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: and was crazy and she was like so overbearing to

1089
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: the to the doctor. I don't remember this, but I

1090
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: will go back on watching if you can send me. Yes. Absolutely,

1091
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: But it bothers me so much because she is so

1092
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: she's great. She's great. It's confusing someone someone. I read

1093
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: an article the other day that was like talking about

1094
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: her as like the number one actress in the entire

1095
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: world in terms of prestigious television. And I'm like, yeah,

1096
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: you can't argue with that. That's not that's not a

1097
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: false clam you can't argue with that. I mean, she

1098
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: was the lead actress on mad Men, and now the

1099
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: Handmad's tale you cannot argue with Well, that's debatable. If

1100
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: she was the lead on mad Man, it depended on

1101
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: the season, depended on this season. Were a fan, of course, yes, um,

1102
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: And it's embarrassing, but I love January Jones. Yeah, me too.

1103
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: She actually was perfect in that part. I don't know

1104
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: she was being well, yes, wasn't. But casting is acting, y'all,

1105
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: Like you think any of these people could act well? Yeah, sure.

1106
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: But I also worry though, because I don't know if

1107
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: she knew what Betty met exactly and fat Betty. I

1108
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: think it was comedic that Betty was like, I don't

1109
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: think it was meant to necessarily be that comedic. Well,

1110
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: I didn't have fat Betty. That's your problem, you. January Jones.

1111
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: Feeling the discomfort in that suit is what made me.

1112
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: It was not her being the character being fat. It

1113
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: was just January Jones failing at this assignment. I don't

1114
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: think think. I think January. Jones actually never felt that

1115
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: the assignment the part was so close. I don't know

1116
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: there was. There were kind of times like it took

1117
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: me three seasons. Spoiler alert, I'm about to spoil mad Man.

1118
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: It's been over. But so when she figures out that,

1119
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: um that Donn is Dick, there's that this is the

1120
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: this is when I turned. I have a lot of these.

1121
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm a Searcy fan too, because there's these things where,

1122
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: first of all, like women are not allowed to be

1123
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: anti heroes the way that men are. There are female

1124
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: anti heroes, but they don't get celebrated the way that

1125
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: male anti heroes do. But there's always a moment where

1126
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: there's a woman that I'm supposed I'm being written into

1127
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: hating and then she does some ship and I'm like,

1128
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm witch you, bitch forever with that scene, the scene

1129
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: where so she finds a drawer, yes so season three,

1130
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 1: I would think, and she opens the King and don

1131
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 1: comes home, and there's just something about the way she

1132
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: says open it, open it, and I'm like, I'm with

1133
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: you be terrible to Sally forever, I love you. I

1134
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: had that moment with Serasy like four seasons ago, I'm

1135
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: which bitch, I'm never gonna leave you alone. There was

1136
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: this There was this scene where there was two scenes

1137
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 1: where I love January Jones forever and it was this.

1138
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: It was there was a scene I think it was

1139
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: like season one or two where she uh for some

1140
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: business dealing that Don's done, like January Jones gets to

1141
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: model again, and so they bring her in and they

1142
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: put her in all the fancy clothes and they sell

1143
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: her the shot she's gonna be on, and they do

1144
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: test and they put her in makeup, and then they

1145
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: say they put an necklace on her, and then they

1146
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: say at the end of the episode because of something

1147
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: that Don's done, and she doesn't know this, and they say,

1148
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 1: we're so sorry didn't work out or actually going to

1149
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: have to tell you that you have to leave said

1150
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: and we're her take the necklace. So she says, oh,

1151
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: that's okay, it's okay, that's totally fine, I understand, and

1152
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: as they're taking the necklace off of her, her face

1153
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: just breaks and she just like she just like she's

1154
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 1: so disappointed in her. And I was like, I gotta

1155
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: give it to her right there. She made me feel

1156
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: it for a character that you're not supposed to feel

1157
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: it for which is the whole key. And then the

1158
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: second one was the end of second season. I think

1159
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: it was she realizes that Donna has been cheating and

1160
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: she looks at him and she turns to him and

1161
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 1: she's like such a child, and she's such an she

1162
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: doesn't know how to process herself emotionally, and I thought

1163
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: this line was written so well, and nothing's a mistake

1164
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: with the writing on that show. She just goes, I

1165
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 1: want to scream at you, and she it was like

1166
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: this pause between I want and then what she was

1167
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: going to say because she was scared like child. I

1168
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, this is like such a real thing.

1169
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: Is oh my god, is Betty Draper Sertazife? Oh my god?

1170
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: If Betty was empowered to be cruel, she might be service?

1171
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: And then who's Jamie? No, ro Don doesn't exist exactly. Wait,

1172
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,560
Speaker 1: but there's also I loved Betty in Italy. Do you

1173
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: remember Betty? And it's so wonderful when she felt him,

1174
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 1: she felt She's I'm learned. I'm going to speak Italian.

1175
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: Those were happy episodes that was post like when they

1176
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 1: were about to divorce. But you know, Don was still

1177
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: being greedy and that was their escape episode. And then

1178
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: when the episode so set because they got back to America,

1179
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: watched that. No, no, no, because I actually think that

1180
01:10:56,040 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: Madman is the best television trouble. I Suitcase's incredible work.

1181
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: I think that. I remember I'm that season three finale.

1182
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: It's called shut the Door, Have a Sea. I think

1183
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: it's one of the best. It's like a caper movie almost.

1184
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: It's incredible and there's like taking over the Yeah, there's

1185
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: so many episodes of that show which are just beautiful, beautiful.

1186
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: And what I what I was thinking about Men and

1187
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: the other day is it was able to become one

1188
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: of the greatest television stories of all time in my opinion,

1189
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: without being violent, without being without being over the top,

1190
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: without being super sexualized. I mean, I was thinking about

1191
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: that show, and yes, it's true there was and I

1192
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: was thinking there was a rape on that show, um,

1193
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 1: because I get Greg, And then I don't know if

1194
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 1: there was another one. Because if we're thinking, if we're

1195
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:01,560
Speaker 1: thinking about Peggy, she was always comit, not complicit. She

1196
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: was always um consenting with Peter. Um. Okay, so, but

1197
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: but so many of these shows that are like this

1198
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: is the greatest television of all time, and like it's

1199
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: like gross and violent, and like so many women are

1200
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: getting raped in these shows and it's like a game

1201
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: with those it's just like so out of control. But

1202
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: Big Little Lives was a comment on I actually defend

1203
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: Big Little Lies. I just like it. I like what

1204
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying. There was there was a violence and beyond

1205
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 1: even just the domestic abuse, like like they kill a man,

1206
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 1: which right, popular opinion alert, Nicole didn't do it. From me,

1207
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: that's okay to have that opinion to my to my

1208
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: oh yeah you to your credit, you you put race

1209
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: over Nicole. Yes, if I have a ballot in my

1210
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: hands every day. First of all, I had a like,

1211
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: oh I didn't know I like this. I had one

1212
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: of those. And two she basically plays Flicker Flicker. I'm

1213
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: thinking sick. No, Sicky Flicker is a cast member on

1214
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: the House Eivees of New Jersey. Um. But yeah, so

1215
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: Tracy Flick as a grown up somehow not obnoxious, even

1216
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: with the obnoxious as kids that she had. And I'm

1217
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 1: not gonna lie if my man left me for Zoe Kravis,

1218
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a problem because I'm never gonna feel

1219
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 1: good about myself again, you know, because you can always

1220
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: be like if a man cheese on you, you can

1221
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: always be like, I have the moral high ground. Yes,

1222
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: he ain't ship. But then you see Zoe Kravicy, like, oh,

1223
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 1: she's doper than me. Oh man, that's what it is.

1224
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: There's someone in the fairest of them all. But then

1225
01:13:52,840 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: she was a murderer. It's been and I say season

1226
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: one because I truly hope for a second they are

1227
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: bringing one back, but I'm not again, I'm not with

1228
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: the second. I will watch. Yeah, but what stories that

1229
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: we need? We need the back story of Zoe Kravitz,

1230
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: We need what's going to watch being a murderer? Oh

1231
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: excuse me, it was self defense? Self defense or well,

1232
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: it's quite a blurred line there. I'm so happy to

1233
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 1: talk about Big Little Lives again because when it was on,

1234
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: it was my everything, and now my everything is fucking

1235
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise, and I hate myself. Oh I tried

1236
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: to watch The Bachelor one season. I watched a season

1237
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: of one of them. I can't remember, and I look.

1238
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: I love trash reality team and I can even stomach

1239
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: and overproduced show like the Kardashians is so overproduced. It's

1240
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: mind blood. But I don't do well with secondhand embarrassment,

1241
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: Like if you're doing something embarrassing, I feel it in

1242
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: my body. Can't do and Bachelor at Bachelor, all of

1243
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: it is so embarrassing for me when I watched, Yeah,

1244
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, like how the cringe humor of the office

1245
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: are being I feel that watching it, watching Bachelor in Paradise,

1246
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: and it's worse because it's real. Yeah, I don't. I

1247
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 1: don't know. Necessarily it's always real, but I don't. The

1248
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: part of it that I don't like is, at least

1249
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 1: on those shows, they're scripted. It's deliberate. I cannot tell

1250
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: if the people on the Bachelor feel what I'm feeling. Right,

1251
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: it's it's like when and they are so cool about it.

1252
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: The editors, they're like showing someone being like, I am

1253
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: so excited about this stage because she's going to say

1254
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: that she loves me when I tell her I love

1255
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: her back, and it is going to be the best

1256
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: moment in my life. And then cut to the other one.

1257
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 1: I really feel like so sad that I have to

1258
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: tell him that I don't love him, and it is

1259
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: so sad. And then you see them come together, and

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01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 1: you're like, well, this is the worst moment of his life,

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01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: her life, and my life. I mean, bad for all

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01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: parties involved. I'll never forgive Rachel Linty never. But also

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01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 1: she also, like, just objectively speaking, because I saw the

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01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: Halle blue about the choice she picked the less hot guy,

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01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: the less hot guy. And also, but also to be real,

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01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 1: I do follow them on Instagram and they seem very happy.

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01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: So her kissing him, maybe it's all good. Maybe maybe

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01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: maybe I was just that mascot. He's an asshole. He

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01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: calls himself a physician. He's a chiropractors. God you are.

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01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. He shouldn't do that. Chiropractors are not doctors.

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01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: There you go. You heard it here. First, um, let's

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01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: move on. We're gonna move on to I don't think so, honey.

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01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: So this is the segment of the show you may

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01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: be familiar with. It's where we take one minute to

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01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,799
Speaker 1: rail against culture. We take one specific that of culture

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01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: that is just kind of what would you say, just

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01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: getting at just it just pops our boils on our skin,

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01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 1: and you know, usually we'll be thankful for that, but

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01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 1: in this case we're not. I'm not thankful. No, let

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01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: my boil rest rest. Do you want to go first

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01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: or do you want me m I can go first

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01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: because so I can speak from the heart. Great. So

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01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so, honey,

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01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: and his time starts now. I don't think so, honey.

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01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: Canker sores, why just explain to me why why God

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01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: is a god that I have to ask because there

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01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: is no reason why so canker stores. And I want

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01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,560
Speaker 1: to say, they are not cold sores, bitch, and is

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01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: not heard black stars one on my mouth. It is

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01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 1: canker stores. And I guess they come on with stress.

1291
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: But you hurt me and I had to drop out

1292
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: of a show last night because of you. I had

1293
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: to feel uncomfortable tonight at another show because of you,

1294
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,720
Speaker 1: canker stores. There's really nothing you can do for you.

1295
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: I switched around so out water in my mouth. It

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01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: does nothing. And my mother is like, well, did you

1297
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: do salt water? I said, yes, bitch, I did, and

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01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: it's nothing. Canker sores. I had you from a young age.

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01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 1: I thought want to have my wisdom teeth removed that you,

1300
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 1: that you would be gone forever. I have some relief,

1301
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: but not enough canker sores. You ruin my presence. I

1302
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: don't think that's one minute. Oh man. There has not

1303
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: been a moment over the last four days that I

1304
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 1: haven't thought before I spoken about how much? How much

1305
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 1: is this going to hurt? Watermelon frost? I haven't at home.

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01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna come with me. I'll give it to you.

1307
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: My culture out there. If you have canker sores, just

1308
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: reach out, reach out, reach out. Let's all former group.

1309
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: Let's let's have a Facebook group called canker sores. And

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01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: whenever you have one, you can comment. Okay, yes that

1311
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 1: sounds could you hear what I just said? Whenever you

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01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 1: have one you can comment? You can't. Every continent is

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01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 1: a b I'm so sad. I'm sorry. It's been such

1314
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: a stressful time. I can't wait for you to try

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01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: watermelon frost. Okay? Um? Can I go? Okay? Um? Can

1316
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: you can you leave me in? I don't think so, Honey,

1317
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: his time starts. I don't think. No, you didn't start.

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01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: My cankers hurt so much. Oh my god, I feel

1319
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: so embarrassed for oh my little sore. Okay, you just

1320
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: faked me out. Time starts. Oh my can time starts now?

1321
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. That secretary receptionist whatever the fuck.

1322
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,879
Speaker 1: At Warby Parker on Spring Street and Sixth Avenue yesterday

1323
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: during the eclipse, I was told that Warby Parker locations

1324
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 1: were getting out free eclipse glasses. So I went to

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01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 1: go procure some from my co workers because we were

1326
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 1: all going to go to the Hudson River to watch

1327
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: the eclipse. And I said, I will go to the

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01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: Warby Parker location on Spring and Sixth Avenue to get

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01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: to get fucking eclipse glasses. And I don't think so, honey.

1330
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: When I walk up to the elevator, I see all

1331
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: these people pouring out with the clip classes in their hands.

1332
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: I go, great, they still have the seconds. Walked up

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01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,720
Speaker 1: the fucking receptionist. I go, do you still hi, do

1334
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: you still have the clips class? And she gives me

1335
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: this look like I've just punched her and I've punched

1336
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 1: someone else in the face in front of her. She

1337
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: goes no, and I go, okay, that's fine, and she goes,

1338
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what you want me to say, and

1339
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: I go that's all I needed to know, and then

1340
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:27,560
Speaker 1: I walked away. But I gave her the most daggerized

1341
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: I've ever given anyone before. This fucking receptionist was giving

1342
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: me lip and I don't think so, Honey, don't you

1343
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: ever speak to me that way, especially during the eclipse.

1344
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: That's one minute. You never speak ill of something to

1345
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: someone else during the eclipse. No, not during the eclipse. Anyway.

1346
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 1: This she was the rudest fucking person I've ever met.

1347
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 1: What a specific I don't think a better specifically made

1348
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: me so upset yesterday when the Warby Parker Offices headquarters

1349
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: on Spring Street and sixth Avenue. She has short brown hair.

1350
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: I want to say, let's docks. This person, she should

1351
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: have known better, She should have known better, is horrified.

1352
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,879
Speaker 1: But you know what, that's why you don't cross cultures.

1353
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 1: You don't process because I will potentially get you a

1354
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: warning meeting from HR. I'm not gonna get you fired.

1355
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to get you fired. I do want

1356
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: to do you will get a what's called talking to

1357
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 1: a tap on the wrist, a tap slap on the wrist.

1358
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: Don't don't you ever speak to Bow and Yang that way? Wow,

1359
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 1: someone's head is big, all right. So now we have

1360
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 1: Ray Sonny who really has done and I don't think so, honey.

1361
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: For the ages, and we're going to have another one, truly.

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01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: I meshed up the farm. Oh my god, I feel

1363
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 1: so much pressure. It's gonna be a Princeton level. I

1364
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: don't think so. Give me one quar second second. What's

1365
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: making me mad? What's making me mad? Come on? You

1366
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: know you have something that's making you mad? Yeah, yeah, okay, okay,

1367
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: ray honny, I don't think so, honey. Time starts now, um, Twitter,

1368
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 1: it's making me very mad, very mad. I don't think so, honey, Twitter.

1369
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: People who ain't got a blue check. Okay, Now, I

1370
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 1: never flex, I never flex. My mom raised me humble.

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01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: But listen, there's always somebody who wants to disagree with

1372
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 1: you just because they think that they're gonna get retweeted

1373
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: and flex. Are you listen? When I got verified, I

1374
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: don't even have that many followers, maybe five thousand whatever,

1375
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: who's counting? I am five thousand? And this guy tells me, oh,

1376
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 1: you know you're not even that funny? All right? Maybe

1377
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 1: you know what? Who cares? Here's what I've never done,

1378
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: been an anonymous person and found a person who isn't

1379
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: anonymous to tell them that they're not dope, because you

1380
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: know what, if you're anonymous looking for people to tell

1381
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: they're not dope, you're not dope. And look, that's how

1382
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: she signs off. I will say this. I would five

1383
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: thousand followers empathy too, And how dare you insult unverified?

1384
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 1: I applied for unverified and they said at this time,

1385
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: we cannot verify you, and I said I refunded. I

1386
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 1: was like, okay, bit no, I got the rejection first.

1387
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: I got the rejection first, But then, what do you

1388
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: think we'll do it? And I need it right on

1389
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: a television show? Well, I mean I tried that, and then, uh,

1390
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 1: our representation, we have the same people. You gotta work

1391
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:29,560
Speaker 1: on this for me. This is from my ego. I

1392
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 1: need this bully and I know who you're talking about.

1393
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: How did they respond to it? But she was just

1394
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 1: I'm sure she was embarrassed. And then it was like, okay,

1395
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: I'll see what I can do. But happen as she does,

1396
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: so five thousand no, like it's nothing because there are

1397
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 1: people with millions who I need the blue check. Anyone's

1398
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 1: out there listening. It's a certain somebody who does a

1399
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 1: certain thing for another certain body somebody I want for nothing.

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01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: I just bit a blue chuck either, which I'm fine

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01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 1: with for now. Whatever you right, five, I want for nothing. Um,

1402
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: you will get a blue check. You don't get you

1403
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 1: a vir check Tomorrow, we'll see, we'll see. Um. That's

1404
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: so funny that you guys aren't talking about her. Wow,

1405
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: what fun inside baseball stuff to leave? Shut up. I

1406
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: only thought about that because I've made a joke on

1407
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 1: Twitter about uh Matt said he's not a Supports fan,

1408
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 1: but there's an uh okay, alright, fine, but joke. I

1409
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:45,640
Speaker 1: made a sports joke about Boston fans being racist, and

1410
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: they are, and a boy like lost his mind. It's

1411
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 1: like an unverified little bit and unverified Boston asked fan.

1412
01:24:56,080 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: Fuck you for both of those things. Boston, Austin own

1413
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 1: up to your racist like Mark Wahlberg, blinded of like

1414
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: just own its Mark Wallburg over the TV Mark Wallburg

1415
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: highest paid actor in Hollywood, blind man, the highest paid

1416
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: hate crimer. And with that, we're gonna call it a

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01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 1: rap on this episode of Lost Cold Risos Ray, thank

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01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 1: you so much. I'm sorry, I'm sweating and gross. We

1419
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: love you much, We love you. This is so great

1420
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 1: I mean like at ray Sonny. Come on, come on,

1421
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: so President show you got to tune in. I mean you, guys,

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01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: this has been such an amazing episode. Bowen, I love

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01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: you dearly. Hey, Lost Cultures to send us some good

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01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: vibes and some good vibes send write some reviews on

1425
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 1: iTunes were almost at a hundred. We would love eight

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Speaker 1: more to cross that line. Come on, babe, come on, babe,

1427
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 1: we love you so much. Right now than come right

1428
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 1: there she whipt at her phone and she's typing away.

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01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: Oh there she goes is type type type. My name

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01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: is Corina June. My name is Brenda Dorff. No, it's

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01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: not both of our names, right, Emma. Bye. This has

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Speaker 1: been a Forever Dog Production executive produced by Joe Cilio,

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