1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Welcome in third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: right now and just letting you know where we're going here. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Liberation Day as Trump is 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: calling it in just a moment, Tariffs, what's going on 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: in a sense remaking and molding of the American economy 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: as it pertains to trade, which obviously affects the economy overall. 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: We will dive into that momentarily, but first off, remember 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: last hour, we're talking about this the basics of the case. 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: A father, African American, twenty four years old, Augusta, Georgia, 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: ten year old, six year old, one year old, he's 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: going for an interview. He leaves his kids in McDonald's 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: playground attached to McDonald's restaurant. Comes back, he's arrested and 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: a lot of people are going back and forth on this. 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: We weren't there, We don't have all the details, but 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: wanted to hear from you. This is interesting with it, 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: and we got a lot of calls, a lot of 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: vip emails. So funny, Clay, we talk about, like how 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: do we end the war with Ukraine? And like we 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: get some calls we talk about how old can you be? 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: And as a parent or how old can your kid 21 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: be as a parent and you let them in public 22 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: and people are fired up, so a lot of lines 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: lit and a lot of VIPs and otherwise, let's take Roman, 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: he's a cop in Boston, wants to weigh it on 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: how this factors in Massachusetts. 26 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: Thanks Roman, Hey, good afternoon, guys. How you doing good? 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: Good, Thanks for listening, Thanks for calling in. 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: Okay in Massachusetts. And I've been a crop for twenty 29 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: nine years in the city in the Greater Boston area 30 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: in Massachusetts. The child's abandon abandonment laws don't do not 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: specifically state an age. That's done on a case by 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: case basis, and it's up to the discretion of the officer. 33 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 3: I think where this kid got. 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: In trouble was with the one year old, because ten 35 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: and a six year old, you know what I mean, 36 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: people see a one year old with them for you know, 37 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: with the ten of to other younger kids, you know, 38 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: for a prolonged period of time to start thinking. And 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: if the cops arrived personally, would I have arrested the guy? 40 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: It depends he. 42 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: Was going for a job, if he was a hard worker. 43 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: I'd have to see the condition of the children. What 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: do you look like? If they were clean, if they 45 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: were well kept. But that's that's all discretionary. I didn't see. 46 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: That's what I By the way, Roman, that's what I 47 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: figured it would be stick because I've never heard of 48 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: a hard line number in terms of the age. So 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: it's it's exactly what you're bringing because obviously you do this, 50 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: it's a whole range of factors. 51 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, indeed you get to take in every single 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 2: little thing, even the appearance of the kids. Are they clean, 53 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: do they look malnourished? You know what? 54 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: You know? 55 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: Also, Roman, what time was this? Because most ten and 56 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: six year old should be in school, So I'm presuming 57 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: that this was, you know, four o'clock in the afternoon 58 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: or something as opposed to ten am, because that would factory. 59 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 4: But I think Roman, for you, do you have kids? 60 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: Well? I do, Yeah, So. 61 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: The one year old, I think for most dads and 62 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 4: moms out there is the that's tough, right, the ten 63 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: and six year old at a play area. I can 64 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 4: understand how you leave them for twenty or twenty five 65 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: minutes if you absolutely positively were so desperate that you 66 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: had to do something else, but that's why I want 67 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 4: more details. Thanks for bringing the law enforcement perspective to it, Roman, 68 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 4: and thank you for listening. Taylor in Utah wants to 69 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: weigh in on this one. 70 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Taylor? 71 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 5: Heany playing? 72 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: Buck? How are you guys? 73 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: We're good? Ask you? Are you listening in Salt Lake? 74 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: Where are you? 75 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, We're I'm close to salt Lake. Just another freedom, 76 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 5: love and patriot where we love to shoot our guns 77 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 5: and pans here in Utah. 78 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: Fantastic. Well, you know we're number one anywhere close to 79 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: Salt Lake, so that makes us very happy. Thank you 80 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: for listening. What's on your mind? 81 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: So? 82 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 5: I had an incident similar to this about four or 83 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 5: five years ago. My son my wife had to run 84 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 5: to the store real quick, and it was I had 85 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 5: to work on a Saturday, and she called and asked 86 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 5: whether or not to leave him at home. 87 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: I said, yeah, he's going to be fine. 88 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 5: You know you're going to be five minutes down the road. 89 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 5: I'm twenty minutes down the road working. 90 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: It's not a big deal. 91 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 5: Her disgruntled aunt called the cops on us because we 92 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 5: left him at home. He was five a month away 93 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 5: from turning six and the cops showed up. It was 94 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 5: a big to do and it took me a while 95 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 5: to clean up my tools and get to the house. 96 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 5: And the cops were, Yeah, obviously didn't understand the law. 97 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: We've got a law here in Jutah. 98 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 5: The helicopter parenting law, where it's the parent's discretion at 99 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 5: which agent you can leave your child at home alone. 100 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 5: So I got pretty hot and heavy with officers because 101 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 5: they didn't understand the law. 102 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: They were threatening to arrent me. I got pretty loud, 103 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: and he. 104 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 5: Was like, well, sir, now I'm going to wrest you 105 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 5: for disorderly contact. I'm like, sir, I'm in my own home. 106 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: I said, it's my discretion that I can. 107 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 5: Leave my five year old at home alone. I can 108 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: send my five year old, you know, down to the 109 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 5: bus stop on his own. It's my determination the parents 110 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 5: at what age that I can leave my kids at 111 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 5: home alone, you know. And he had he had the 112 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 5: election that he could have called us from. We told 113 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 5: the neighbors that we were going to be gone for 114 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 5: just a bit, and uh so, yeah, I think. 115 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: It's completely and so you knew the law, and yeah, 116 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: I I uh interesting that that's that. The cops and 117 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: you had that kind of an exchange. Thank you for 118 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: calling in, Uh, Clay, you got something on this. Oh yeah, 119 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean I just think so much of this. Every 120 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,119 Speaker 1: parent is going to say the difference between how kids 121 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: were treated in the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties in terms 122 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: of the freedom of movement versus today. I think that 123 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: his reference of the helicopter parenting, there's a lot of 124 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: parents out there that are hyper hyper vigilant in a 125 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: way that they were not when we were kind of 126 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: seeing parents that have the kids and I'm not if 127 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: you do this, this is your joy, but have ever 128 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: seen the parents have the kids that are on like 129 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: the least sho oh yeah, yeah, like they the kids 130 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: are running around and they're like the little harness but 131 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, they look like they're going splunking or something. 132 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you mean it's great. I do think again, we 133 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 4: were talking a little bit. You went to New York City. 134 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: I grew up in the Nashville area. I would get 135 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: on the bus and every parent, every kid's different fifth grade, 136 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 4: ride home, empty house. Both my parents worked, walk home 137 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 4: from the bus stop, go into the house and unlock 138 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 4: the door and then sit and usually watch like television 139 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 4: until my family got home. My grandfather on one side 140 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 4: who passed away, you know, a while ago, but you know, 141 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 4: World War two veteran Greatest generation guy, one of those guys. 142 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 4: He I think he told me that he would drive 143 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: the truck. His family had like a place, you know, 144 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 4: in upstate New York and they had land, and he 145 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 4: would said he'd drive the truck at like ten or 146 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 4: eleven years old. 147 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I was just like, he's like, there's there 148 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: were no cars. He's like, no, no, this was the 149 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: nineteen I don't know, nineteen thirties, yeah, nineteen thirties. 150 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 4: But when I just came back from Israel, I was 151 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 4: stunned by how many young kids they walk everywhere. 152 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: They said that. 153 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: One of the women at the IFCJ said her fourteen 154 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 4: year old daughter hitch Heights, Clinton. It's very common, she said. 155 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: And it's interesting, like cultures are different. 156 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: These are high trust society. What we get to and 157 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: when you see you know, if a I'm telling you 158 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: if if a six year old kid is walking around 159 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: the streets by himself in Helsinki, versus a six year 160 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: old kid walking around the streets by himself, God forbid 161 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: in you know, uh Kuliya Khan, Mexico. It's just, you know, 162 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: the risk factors, It's just reality. The risk factors of 163 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: safety are incredibly different. 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I'm calling from Pennsylvania. 201 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. We're honored to speak to you, and thank 202 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: you for holding for us. We appreciate you. 203 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 6: Thank you, sir, Thank you, Sir. I spent twenty years 204 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 6: investigating child welfare cases from seventy nine to ninety nine, 205 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 6: and I saw everything from A to Z, and any 206 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 6: conceivable factor can happen. I saw the worst thing possibly happen. 207 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 6: So the thing about the gentleman who is twenty four 208 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 6: being arrested, here's the way. There's no way to dance 209 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 6: around this. Nothing. The authorities or the police have to 210 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 6: be someone to something like that. The whole idea is 211 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 6: everything needs to be checked out. If the children are 212 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 6: held in custody, and if something doesn't jive real quick, 213 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 6: then that could That could be very brief. It could 214 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 6: be a day, It could be longer than that. But 215 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 6: you can't let something like this slide because the worst 216 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 6: possible scenario can and will and has happened in these situations. 217 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 6: Believe the guys I've seen it is that does this 218 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 6: gentleman belong in jail at that point? It depends on 219 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 6: what happened and during the investigation, if you know, if 220 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 6: there was contraband, if the guy was sure he was 221 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 6: at a job interview. I get that, but it depends 222 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 6: on the demeanor of the guy, what he did, how 223 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 6: he cooperated, who knows, We don't know. These are all variables. 224 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 6: But the bottom line, my bottom line in this, we've 225 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 6: got to protect the children. 226 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: No doubt, absolute, absolutely, thank you for Look, we got 227 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: all this law enforcement expertise in this audience. We appreciate 228 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: you calling in and filling us in on this. Like 229 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: the officer in Boston said, there's no law in Boston. 230 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: It's really about the age specifically you can be left alone, 231 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: but it's about the totality of everything going on. You know, 232 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: is there which which makes sense? 233 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: Right? 234 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: But VIP listener Debbie says, in Illinois, see this is 235 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: where you realize states have these things called laws that 236 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: are up to the states. And you know, we all 237 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: often think so much about federal law, but state laws 238 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: are are you very important And Illinois you have to 239 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: be fourteen before you can legally be left alone. So 240 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: I would have thought, though I would have thought thirteen, 241 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: was that it's fourteen in Illinois. According to VIP listener, Debbie. 242 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: So different states have different statutes on this. By the way, 243 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: a little bit of an update. 244 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: I got an email they're gonna send more details about this. 245 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 4: We're in on an AUGUSTA. I think there may be 246 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 4: some more details that add flavor to this story. So 247 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 4: just FYI just may get that even before the show, 248 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 4: is that this guy's now guy. He's got to go 249 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 4: fund me Antonio Brown the very famous football player wide 250 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 4: receiver formula for the Steelers. 251 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: Yes, among other teams, my beloved Steelers. 252 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: It is a story that I think a lot of 253 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 4: people react to in a positive way. And again, I 254 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 4: just want to know all the further circumstances. But we 255 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: got a lot of different police officers who've waited in 256 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 4: How about Grandma's Virginia in Middletown, Rhode Island. How do 257 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 4: you react to this story, Virginia. 258 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 7: Oh, I think there's something you haven't talked about. The 259 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 7: person who called the police could have taken another tax 260 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 7: and could have stayed with the children and kept an 261 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 7: eye on them and waited for the father to come 262 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 7: back to make sure everything was okay. 263 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: So that is a very by the way, sorry to 264 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 4: cut you off, but that is a very Grandma answer. 265 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: Where you in a high trust society that wouldn't be 266 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: considered strange at all. Honestly, I think in Warsaw, the 267 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: you know, the Babushka would be expected to watch the 268 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: kids of some neighbor. But you know, in America, we 269 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: are not a high trust society the way we should be. 270 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: I mean, and by the way, I understand why we're not, 271 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of bad people out there and 272 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: we have a crime and a lot of violent crime. 273 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: I think. 274 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 4: So what, Virginia, I think you're raising a really interesting question, 275 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 4: which is who called the police? 276 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: Because was it. 277 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 4: Another parent in the playground area of the McDonald's or 278 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 4: was it a McDonald's employee? And I bet you also 279 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: kind of have the reaction that I do. Ten and 280 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: six year old very different than the one year old. 281 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: That one year old. I mean, it's hard to take 282 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 4: control and parent a one year old for grown adults. 283 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 4: Sometimes we don't know if the kid was crying, we 284 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 4: don't know if the kid was may need a diaper change, 285 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: how long were they There's so many details that to 286 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 4: me need to be determined before you can figure out everything. 287 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 4: Thank you for that call. Michelle in Cincinnati, what do 288 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: you think. 289 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 8: Hi, thank you for taking my call. You guys are 290 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 8: awesome and buck Early congratulations on your impending arrival to 291 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 8: the family. So as a mom, I just wanted to, 292 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 8: I guess really talk about, you know the fact that 293 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 8: this is a twenty four year old young man, and 294 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 8: twenty four, although considered an adult, their prefrontal cortex is 295 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 8: still not fully developed. And so this is to me, 296 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 8: it's just a no matter the best of intentions, and 297 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 8: this young man wanted a job and that's all fantastic 298 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 8: and wonderful to support his family. But like we've said, 299 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 8: there are creepy crawlers out there. You never know what 300 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 8: might happen. It could have happened in the first ten 301 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 8: minutes after he left. Or you have a ten and 302 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 8: a six year old trying to tend to their one 303 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 8: year old sibling. What if that baby was just eating 304 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 8: solid and the six year old thought, oh, he could 305 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 8: take this little piece of chicken nugget, and the baby 306 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 8: chokes on that and say. 307 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you southn Michelle, one of the uh, sorry 308 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: I started to jump in, but just you know, I've 309 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: actually had Carrie hired for me a like a like 310 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: a baby care training expert. And one of the things 311 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: we did was, you know, practice on a little doll 312 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: baby CPR and baby basically choking, you know, baby Heimlich. 313 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: And I asked, this woman who goes all over training people, 314 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: I said, I was just wondering, how often do you 315 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: have parents that call you and say, oh my gosh, 316 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, I was able to get the blockage out 317 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: of my baby. She says all the time. She says 318 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: all the time, she says many times a year, every year. 319 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: So I mean, that was sobering. 320 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's so scary, and and it's it's scary 321 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 8: enough if it's your own child, and my god, you 322 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 8: have to do a CPR, you know, on your own kids. 323 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 8: But what if there's other parents there and they don't 324 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 8: like they're looking around, where's this parent? Oh my god, 325 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 8: this child, you know, in severe trauma? What can I do? 326 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 8: What should I do? So I guess I just wanted 327 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 8: to say, best of intentions, that's all great. Ten and 328 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 8: six year olds to me as a parent are still 329 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 8: too young. 330 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, thank you. 331 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: I think certainly moms have different standards sometimes than dads 332 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 4: in terms of risk analysis. That's quite clear on everything. 333 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: But what everybody wants to be able to do is 334 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 4: hopefully be able to get in touch with your family 335 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: and be able to save money while you do it. 336 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 4: That's what pure Talk does such an amazing job of 337 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 4: I've been always we have Puretalk phones for my fourteen 338 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: and my seventeen year old. 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Say in 349 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: Clay and Buck, that's pound two five zero to save 350 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 4: an additional fifty percent off your first month pound two 351 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: five zero, say Clay and Buck. 352 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back in your clan. Buck. All right, day is today, 353 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: and we should talk about what that means and get 354 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: into some of that. And so here we are looking 355 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: at some of the big tariffs going into effect. President 356 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: Trump stalwart on this, I mean, just not backing down 357 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: at all. Economist Stephen Moore, very smart guy, very pro 358 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: Trump economist. Here he is explaining the basic theory around 359 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: this play nine. 360 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 9: I think that what we're going to hear is a 361 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 9: lot about this idea of reciprocal terrorists. If Trump's policies 362 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 9: work out here, I do believe that the end of 363 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 9: the day that there will be a lowering of terroifts 364 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 9: around the world. Our terrorists are about three or four 365 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 9: or five percent, and many other countries are above twenty percent, 366 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 9: and so that's just something we can't live with. And 367 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 9: at the end of the day, this could be a 368 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 9: liberation from those high terriffs that these other countries are 369 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 9: charging American made whether it's cars, or whether it's our 370 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 9: manufacturer items, or whether it's technology. It simply isn't the 371 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 9: fair trading system right now? 372 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: Not a fair trading system. Clay Out. I think that 373 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: that's very important to factor into this conversation because the 374 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: free trade mantra is something that we hear all the time, 375 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: and I never hear from the people that believe very 376 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: much in it, and I understand the economic theory, and 377 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: I understand the history that they that they and theoretically 378 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: it is correct, right, I mean, theoretically it should be 379 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: great for everybody. But when you're talking about reciprocal tariffs, 380 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: why should we just sit here and continue to have 381 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: our producers and manufacturers disadvantage by other markets in other 382 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: countries and do nothing about it. That's the I never 383 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: get an answer. They just say, oh, you know, tariffs, 384 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: you're bad, okay, but what do we do about this? 385 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? 386 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 4: And I don't hear a very strong argument for why 387 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 4: reciprocal tariffs are don't make sense, right, I mean, basically 388 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: Trump is saying, hey, if everybody wants to have pure 389 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 4: free trade and there are no tariffs that are put 390 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 4: on any product, we would have no tariffs with you. 391 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 4: And basically this is what Israel has said. And I 392 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 4: don't know how much product Israel is sending back and forth. 393 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 4: I would imagine that they import more American goods than 394 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: we bring in. That's just because our country is so 395 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: much bigger than theirs. But you know, the real issue 396 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 4: that I think Trump has nailed is look at what 397 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 4: China did. China took advantage of Mexico's free trade agreement 398 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 4: to start to make Chinese goods in Mexico and then 399 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: get the United States products through Mexico in a way 400 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: that would not have been allowed through China. And so 401 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 4: I think what Trump has looked at is and I 402 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: don't think he blames China. In fact, I think he 403 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 4: respects good business decision when he sees them. But if 404 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 4: we're being taken advantage of, at a minimum, we should 405 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: have even fair trade competition where our products are treated 406 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 4: the same as theirs. And I suspect we'll see, because 407 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 4: again he's gonna announce this a little bit later today. 408 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 4: I suspect when it is fully announced that a lot 409 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 4: of countries are going to line up and not want 410 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 4: to get into a trade war with the United States 411 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: because most countries, virtually everywhere, they sell more goods to 412 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 4: us than we are selling to them, so they have 413 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 4: more to lose in a trade war than we do. 414 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: I'd also add that we're gonna get to see at 415 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: some point here if this is right or wrong. I mean, 416 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: this is, you know, we'll see, let's see what the 417 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: results are. I think that Trump, given so much of 418 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: his record as a president as a politician. At this point, 419 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: I think that he has earned patience from well, I 420 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: would hope the whole country. But obviously some people hate 421 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: him because they're crazy. But even on the right, let's 422 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: see if he's right, because and I keep I keep 423 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: having this point. He is right about China, he was 424 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: on trade specifically, he was right about US, Mexico, Canada 425 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: needing to be updated. And the consensus was, oh no, 426 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: don't do that, don't mess with NAFTA. I don't know. 427 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: He was correct and the consensus, so to speak, was wrong. 428 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: Look Kelly Leffler, who's over at the Small Business Administration, 429 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: She's a very connected lady. Here she is saying that 430 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: this is going to be fantastic for small business. Play eight. 431 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 10: This is an exciting day, liberation day. This is the 432 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 10: single greatest salvation for not just small businesses, but for America. 433 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 10: This country was traveling down an unsustainable path and President 434 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 10: Trump has been the only president that has had back. 435 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 10: Don't bone to stand up to our allies and adversaries 436 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 10: alike and say we have to level the playing field. 437 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 10: This is unfair. You're no longer going to take advantage 438 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 10: of us. And man, I would not bet against America 439 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 10: right now, because what's happening is you see investment coming in. 440 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 10: You see four trillion dollars in investment already insident Trump's 441 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 10: first two months, you see trading partners coming to the 442 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 10: table wanting to renegotiate. This is what it's about. It's 443 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 10: about restoring fairness and opportunity to this nation. 444 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 4: Look, I think the question will be determined to a 445 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 4: large extent on what does he say at four o'clock Eastern. 446 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 4: Usually the stock market has already priced in what the 447 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 4: likely outcome of something is. And I think that's why 448 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 4: you're seeing the stock market up a little bit today, 449 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 4: is there is fear that there could be a slow 450 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 4: down overall in economic growth because there's an increased cost 451 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 4: associated with trade. 452 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: My point on it. 453 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: I also think the challenge Trump has is a lot 454 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 4: of people don't understand this. They understand price of goods. 455 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 4: You know what the gas prices are, you know what 456 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 4: the price of eggs was, which they tried to turn 457 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: into a big story for the first part of the 458 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: Trump administration, and now those have collapsed. Really, the number 459 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: one goal to me of the Trump administer stuation should 460 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 4: be to get prices down and for economically right, We've 461 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 4: already got the border taken care of, we want to 462 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 4: put violent criminals behind bars, all those things. But the 463 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 4: average thing that people understand is what is the cost 464 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 4: of goods? And then obviously the other part of this 465 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 4: is your overall salary needs to be increasing faster than 466 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,239 Speaker 4: the cost of goods, or else you feel like you 467 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 4: are getting a backdoor a tax increase because you don't 468 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 4: have as much money in your pocket. People understand that, 469 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 4: and so I hope that what we're going to see 470 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 4: is less dislocation while also putting the American economy and 471 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 4: the American worker on a sound footing for years to come. 472 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 4: And Buck I mentioned this yesterday. Back in I think 473 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 4: it was like June of twenty twenty sixteen, might have been. Actually, 474 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: I think it was like maybe May. My father in 475 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 4: law was the first person that said this that I remember. 476 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 4: He was the diehard Trump and we were out to 477 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 4: dinner in Detroit and he said, oh, I'm going to 478 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 4: be voting for Trump. And I said, well, what is 479 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 4: it that matters the most to you about Trump? And 480 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 4: he said, he's one hundred percent right. We have to 481 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 4: get back to manufacturing things in this country we have 482 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 4: to have. Now he's from the Detroit area. A lot 483 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: of you are listening in Michigan. You understand the economic 484 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: engine that the factory worker provided for so many people 485 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 4: in so many parts of the country. But his perspective 486 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 4: on it was China's taken us to the woodshed here 487 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 4: because we don't make things anymore. And I think with 488 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 4: the dislocation that we saw from COVID where suddenly you 489 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 4: weren't able to bring in products from offshore as easily, 490 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 4: and certainly with what happened with Russia, buck the question 491 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 4: I've asked on this show for years, what would we 492 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 4: do if China actually invaded Taiwan? It was relatively easy 493 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: in the larger geopolitical economic environment to try to cut 494 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 4: Russia off. Suddenly McDonald's in Russia doesn't exist. Suddenly Budweiser 495 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 4: is hard to find the American business. I know, there 496 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 4: are exceptions, some people lost substantial amounts of money. We 497 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I think we were almost we were largely 498 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 4: unsuccessful in cutting right well off. It didn't stop them, 499 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 4: it didn't slow them, and they've got a lot of 500 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 4: oil so they don't really care. But we thought we 501 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 4: could have an economic impact on Russia now the interest 502 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 4: rates are up there like there are a lot of 503 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 4: different moving parts there. But we couldn't do that to China. 504 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: We couldn't if China invaded Taiwan. The entire global economy 505 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 4: would collapse if we said, China, we're cutting you off. 506 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 4: We don't have the ability to do that. And I 507 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 4: think what it matters even more now it's harder to 508 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 4: be a force for world lack of a better way, goodness, 509 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 4: for world equality, for world human rights when China has 510 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 4: America by the UH, by the balls. 511 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: I'll just say it. 512 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 4: When it comes to being able to produce many goods 513 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 4: that we have to have, we can't allow that to 514 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 4: be along. 515 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: It's they concern. There's the concerns about manufacturing the stuff 516 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: that we get from from China and now actually places 517 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: like Vietnam UH and others in Southeast Asia, UH, from 518 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: Amazon and these companies. Right, there's this, there's all the 519 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: stuff that we buy. There's also the concerns about manufacturing 520 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: power UH and resource allocation at a at a true 521 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: national scale. When the Wars of the future. We were 522 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: talking about this play over dinner last night where we 523 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: actually had stakes from our friends a Good Ranchers. They 524 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: were fabulous stakes. Thank you for those guys. I don't 525 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: even have a read from today, but we just wanted 526 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: to say the stakes from from Good Ranchers were absolutely delicious. 527 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: We we devoured them. But the uh, the future of 528 00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: warfare is really going to be technology and and robotics 529 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: and manufacturing, meaning drones in the sky, meaning you know, who, 530 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: look at what's look at what's happened in Russia Ukraine. 531 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: Yes there's manpower, which is a part of this, but 532 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: it's really it's a war of attrition with drones, artillery 533 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: shells and who can keep enough in the field to 534 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: not lose ground. It is as much a manufacturing battle. 535 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: The economy of war is being shown to everybody, the 536 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: wars of the future being shown to everybody on that 537 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: front in Russia Ukraine. And you know, there are concerns 538 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: that we couldn't continue to supply Ukraine even if we 539 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: wanted to at the current pace. Think about that, and 540 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: that's that's a pretty limited conflict relative to what's happened 541 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: in the last hundred years globally, right, So you know 542 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: we need to take this stuff. And this is also 543 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: I bring it up because there's domestic manufacturing as it 544 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: pertains to jobs, and there's also we need the domestic 545 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: industry to be able to support a defense complex here 546 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: that is increasingly about materiel and technology and precision guided 547 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: everything and AI. And you know, as much as we're 548 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: always gonna need skilled, brave people with firearms to kick 549 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: in the door of the bad guy, you're gonna have 550 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: a lot of AI enabled warfare in the future. And 551 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: I don't mean twenty years, I mean pretty much it's 552 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: starting now. 553 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, And again, I don't know how we would be 554 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 4: able to respond. I think Trump's on this Liberation Day. 555 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 4: We will see what happens here in a little over 556 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 4: an hour scheduled at the White House for Eastern A 557 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 4: lot of you still want to weigh in, by the way, 558 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 4: on the AUGUSTA question. 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A lot 594 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: of people weighing in variety of different perspectives. We'll get 595 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 4: more on this Augusta, Georgia incident. I feel likely in 596 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 4: the near future. Right now, Buck and I drinking Crockett Coffee, 597 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 4: the best coffee in America. You go to Crocketcoffee dot Com, 598 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 4: use code book, you get hooked up with an autograph 599 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 4: copy of my most recent book, American Playbook, and you 600 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 4: get the best possible coffee anywhere on the market. And 601 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 4: it is coffee for people who love America, who may 602 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 4: remember Davy Crockett as an American icon and hero. 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I'm playing with a professional golfer, 613 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 4: maybe Bryson Deshambeau, who's a big Trump supporter. 614 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: I will be there tomorrow. 615 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 4: I cannot wait, so I'll be out, then I'll be 616 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 4: back Friday, and then next week you're going to become 617 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 4: a dad. 618 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: A lot of ti I'm gonna go out for a 619 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: while starting late next week, assuming everything happens according to 620 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: schedule here, which some of you feel the need to 621 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: remind me, like, hey, Buck, it might happen earlier. Yes, 622 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: oh trust me, I know we've got the go bags 623 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: ready to go here. But yeah, we're super excited about 624 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: about the little man who was coming into this world 625 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: here soon. I couldn't be more thrilled to be a dad, 626 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: So that's very cool. I'm just gonna feel like kind 627 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: of a hard turn, but I don't really think of 628 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: it as a hard turn because it's a life well 629 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: lived and a great body of work left behind. But 630 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: Val Kilmer, yeah, passed away today, and you know, I 631 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: think that it's just take a moment here. I think 632 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: that even though he was a very successful actor, I 633 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: put him in the somewhat underrated category because I think 634 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: he had some incredible performances. And producer Greg I got 635 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: to give you credit. I think you hit on heat Tombstone, 636 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: and a lot of people would what was the other 637 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: one on top of guy? Yeah? Yeah, those are my 638 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: three favorite Val Kilmer movies. Also, I think his three 639 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: best performances. Although people say he became Jim Morrison in 640 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: the Doors movie. Have you seen that? I actually haven't 641 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: seen it. Yeah, I'm not a door don't yell at me. 642 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know the organ the organ. I'm not a 643 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: doors person, so I didn't see that movie. I think 644 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: the organ thing is cheesy and it annoys me after 645 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: two seconds. But people said he was amazing in that movie, 646 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: and I think he passed way a long fight with cancer. 647 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: He made his way into the last top gun. 648 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 4: For those of you, I mean, I'm sure most of 649 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 4: you saw the most recent Top Gun movie. But you 650 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 4: could see how debilitated he was even in that role. 651 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: That was real. Yeah, it wasn't like he was just 652 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: pretending to have the issues that he did. He actually 653 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: was battling cancer. And Tom Cruise asked him. And you know, 654 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: I think that that's part of what that's a by 655 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: far the standout emotional scene in that movie because it's 656 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: there's all the nostalgia of a Iceman and Maverick. But 657 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: also I think, you know, he recognized like he's at 658 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: a point in his life where that might be the 659 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: last major appearance, you know, and it was. I think 660 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: it was. And and so anyway, you know, I don't 661 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: know if he was a nice guy or not. You know, 662 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: I wish him and his family, you know, you know, 663 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: prayers blessings to them. But I do know he was 664 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: a great and I think I think Tombstone is a 665 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: great rewatchable. I think I've seen Tombstone dozens of times, 666 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: and his depiction of Doc Holliday is iconic, kind of 667 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: the way that Heath Ledger's Joker is iconic to me, 668 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: Like it's a great role that he played. No, you 669 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: should go back and watch. 670 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 4: I think Tombstone is so well done and probably flew 671 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 4: under the radar at the time that it happened. I 672 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 4: don't remember it being like a colossal blockbuster. When did 673 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 4: that come out, like nineteen ninety two or something like that. 674 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 4: Ninety four would be my guest somewhere in that vicinity. 675 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 4: That performance was unbelievable and to your point, I mean, 676 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 4: you know, I think you can tie it in a 677 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 4: little bit the Top Gun remake. The nostalgia factor for 678 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 4: that so well done, and I'm glad that he got 679 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,959 Speaker 4: to appear in that role as an admiral in that film, 680 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 4: which made it was. 681 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: The most memorable part of that movie for me. Beyond 682 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: it was it was fantastic Averick and Ice movie.