1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,475 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. There 2 00:00:21,515 --> 00:00:23,795 Speaker 1: are still some around him who want him to stay 3 00:00:23,835 --> 00:00:26,915 Speaker 1: above the fray on Trump, and to stay above the 4 00:00:26,955 --> 00:00:30,795 Speaker 1: fray on Trump's totalitarianism, and to stay above the fray 5 00:00:30,875 --> 00:00:35,115 Speaker 1: on Trump morphing into Hitler, and especially to stay above 6 00:00:35,235 --> 00:00:39,155 Speaker 1: the new fray on Trump and the Fourteenth Amendment and 7 00:00:39,195 --> 00:00:44,395 Speaker 1: your newest Hallmark movie, A Trumpy Christmas at the Supreme Court. 8 00:00:45,115 --> 00:00:50,515 Speaker 1: But frankly, President Biden is at his best, his best 9 00:00:50,995 --> 00:00:54,715 Speaker 1: when he is the spokesman for a nation dedicated to 10 00:00:54,835 --> 00:00:59,275 Speaker 1: using all legal means to save this country from more Trump. 11 00:01:00,275 --> 00:01:02,955 Speaker 1: Biden is not merely the President. He has a natural, 12 00:01:03,195 --> 00:01:07,315 Speaker 1: perfect pitch touch, blending matter of factness and the collective 13 00:01:07,355 --> 00:01:12,075 Speaker 1: anger of two hundred million or more Americans. Yesterday, tarmac 14 00:01:12,115 --> 00:01:15,035 Speaker 1: at Milwaukee Air Force One, roaring in the background, the 15 00:01:15,075 --> 00:01:18,395 Speaker 1: backseat of the beast awaiting him, The question is shouted 16 00:01:18,435 --> 00:01:21,155 Speaker 1: at him about the Colorado Supreme Court decision, and he 17 00:01:21,235 --> 00:01:24,075 Speaker 1: shouts back that he cannot comment on a court case. 18 00:01:24,515 --> 00:01:27,035 Speaker 1: You can see he's just dying to comment on it. 19 00:01:27,475 --> 00:01:29,875 Speaker 1: And when the follow up question is shouted at him, 20 00:01:30,075 --> 00:01:34,115 Speaker 1: is he an insurrectionist? The President makes sure, he's not 21 00:01:34,275 --> 00:01:37,595 Speaker 1: yelling and he's not drowned out, and he ambles over 22 00:01:37,675 --> 00:01:39,875 Speaker 1: to the reporter and he lets her ask it again, 23 00:01:40,315 --> 00:01:44,595 Speaker 1: and then Joe Biden burns Donald J. Trump to the 24 00:01:44,715 --> 00:01:50,035 Speaker 1: ground with one casually flicked away match. 25 00:01:53,795 --> 00:01:57,515 Speaker 2: Well, I think star certainly yourself, Evan, he's sawt on 26 00:01:57,595 --> 00:01:59,195 Speaker 2: whether the fourteenth runt of applies, and. 27 00:01:59,235 --> 00:02:00,595 Speaker 1: Let the court make that decision. 28 00:02:00,955 --> 00:02:06,035 Speaker 2: But he's certainly supported any insurrection, no question about it, none, zero, 29 00:02:07,075 --> 00:02:11,035 Speaker 2: And he seems to be doubling down on about everything anyway. 30 00:02:11,355 --> 00:02:19,315 Speaker 1: Burned him to the ground because no one can remind 31 00:02:19,395 --> 00:02:24,475 Speaker 1: you of the obviousness of an answer more efficiently, yet 32 00:02:24,515 --> 00:02:29,275 Speaker 1: without any sense of condescension or correction, than can Joe Biden. 33 00:02:30,355 --> 00:02:34,635 Speaker 1: No one. He can also throw into that mix anger 34 00:02:35,115 --> 00:02:40,515 Speaker 1: or wistfulness or cynicism, interwoven with humor, like a photoshop artist, 35 00:02:40,555 --> 00:02:43,555 Speaker 1: blending yellows and blues to get exactly the right green 36 00:02:43,915 --> 00:02:46,795 Speaker 1: for the occasion. He did it in the debates, he 37 00:02:46,835 --> 00:02:49,235 Speaker 1: did it in the Philadelphia speech last year. He did 38 00:02:49,235 --> 00:02:51,315 Speaker 1: it in the days before the coup attempt, when he 39 00:02:51,515 --> 00:02:56,075 Speaker 1: sucked all the credibility out of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, 40 00:02:56,515 --> 00:03:01,355 Speaker 1: simply by repeating that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and 41 00:03:01,395 --> 00:03:09,915 Speaker 1: then giving an almost indiscernible chuckle of dismissal, more offhand 42 00:03:10,075 --> 00:03:14,155 Speaker 1: dismissals please, of anything that even hints that Trump is 43 00:03:14,195 --> 00:03:19,275 Speaker 1: not the consummate human personification of evil or stupidity or 44 00:03:19,315 --> 00:03:27,235 Speaker 1: hatred or cheesiness or insurrection. Do this every day, mister President. 45 00:03:28,195 --> 00:03:31,035 Speaker 1: Plant the damn questions if you have to, the rest 46 00:03:31,075 --> 00:03:34,315 Speaker 1: of us can do the railing and the yelling. You 47 00:03:34,475 --> 00:03:40,195 Speaker 1: be the one who condemns with that casually flicked away match. 48 00:03:41,875 --> 00:03:45,515 Speaker 1: And how the rest of us have railed from the 49 00:03:45,555 --> 00:03:49,155 Speaker 1: reaction on the right to this, especially from baby Hitler himself. 50 00:03:49,475 --> 00:03:52,315 Speaker 1: You would think that nobody has ever before tried to 51 00:03:52,355 --> 00:03:57,395 Speaker 1: get any candidate disqualified from the presidential ballot, you know, 52 00:03:58,475 --> 00:04:02,915 Speaker 1: like baby Hitler. Trump tried to get Obama disqualified and 53 00:04:03,115 --> 00:04:06,755 Speaker 1: used a fabricated fake birth certificate to do it, Like 54 00:04:06,795 --> 00:04:10,035 Speaker 1: he tried to get ted Cruz disqualified in twenty sixteen, 55 00:04:10,195 --> 00:04:15,955 Speaker 1: were being born in Canada on constitutional disqualification. I don't 56 00:04:15,955 --> 00:04:18,675 Speaker 1: want to win it on technicalities, but that's more than 57 00:04:18,675 --> 00:04:22,355 Speaker 1: a technicality. That is a big, big factor. Dementia j Trump, 58 00:04:22,475 --> 00:04:26,875 Speaker 1: January twelve, twenty sixteen, seed Rapids, Iowa. As if he 59 00:04:26,955 --> 00:04:31,195 Speaker 1: did not repeat over and over again during his first 60 00:04:31,275 --> 00:04:36,315 Speaker 1: campaign that Hillary Clinton should not be allowed to run 61 00:04:36,355 --> 00:04:41,115 Speaker 1: for the White House. Not allowed. Dementia J. Trump, October twelve, 62 00:04:41,195 --> 00:04:44,635 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, Lakeland, Florida. She shouldn't be allowed to run 63 00:04:44,715 --> 00:04:46,915 Speaker 1: for president. She shouldn't be allowed. 64 00:04:46,915 --> 00:04:49,555 Speaker 3: I'm telling you she should not be allowed to run 65 00:04:49,555 --> 00:04:52,795 Speaker 3: for president based on her crimes. She should not be 66 00:04:52,915 --> 00:04:55,115 Speaker 3: allowed to run for president. 67 00:04:55,035 --> 00:04:58,995 Speaker 1: For her crimes. He based that, I believe, on the 68 00:04:59,035 --> 00:05:03,315 Speaker 1: third clause of the fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution in 69 00:05:03,395 --> 00:05:07,835 Speaker 1: his mind that only he can see. So spare me 70 00:05:08,475 --> 00:05:11,795 Speaker 1: the how dare the Democrats do this? And oh, by 71 00:05:11,795 --> 00:05:16,355 Speaker 1: the way, the case was filed by Republicans, including the 72 00:05:16,355 --> 00:05:19,595 Speaker 1: former Republican majority leader in the Colorado House and Senate. 73 00:05:21,115 --> 00:05:25,155 Speaker 1: And speaking of which, as Elie Mestahl pointed out, if 74 00:05:25,195 --> 00:05:28,755 Speaker 1: and when the Supreme Court takes the appeal, and by 75 00:05:28,795 --> 00:05:31,995 Speaker 1: the way, tic tic tic, tic, tick, you got sixteen 76 00:05:32,075 --> 00:05:35,795 Speaker 1: days and now only ten of them aren't weekends and 77 00:05:35,955 --> 00:05:40,075 Speaker 1: or holidays. If the Supreme Court takes this seriously, rather 78 00:05:40,115 --> 00:05:43,515 Speaker 1: than letting Leonard Leo and Harlan Crow write its ruling 79 00:05:43,635 --> 00:05:46,555 Speaker 1: for it, the most intriguing part of its verdict will 80 00:05:46,595 --> 00:05:49,875 Speaker 1: be how it gets around that most treasured and publicized 81 00:05:50,075 --> 00:05:55,435 Speaker 1: of the fascists legal rationalizations for destroying everything, states rights. 82 00:05:56,435 --> 00:06:01,115 Speaker 1: The Court has used states' rights a Civil War term, 83 00:06:01,275 --> 00:06:05,715 Speaker 1: as the excuse to curtail early voting, as a reason 84 00:06:05,795 --> 00:06:10,275 Speaker 1: to shorten voting hours, as a justification for re establishing 85 00:06:10,355 --> 00:06:13,995 Speaker 1: aspects of Jim Crow voting laws, as a reason to 86 00:06:14,155 --> 00:06:19,395 Speaker 1: gerrymander semi sentient white supremacist blobs of excrement like Marjorie 87 00:06:19,435 --> 00:06:24,515 Speaker 1: Taylor Green into the House of Representatives. The Colorado ruling 88 00:06:24,755 --> 00:06:28,475 Speaker 1: is at heart a states rights case, or at least 89 00:06:28,475 --> 00:06:30,915 Speaker 1: it would be if it had been filed by Republicans 90 00:06:30,955 --> 00:06:36,315 Speaker 1: against a Democrat. Look, we are Colorado, We are a state. 91 00:06:36,955 --> 00:06:41,035 Speaker 1: These are our state laws about elections. These are our 92 00:06:41,195 --> 00:06:45,275 Speaker 1: state laws about presidential eligibility. These are our state laws 93 00:06:45,315 --> 00:06:49,315 Speaker 1: requiring us to observe and act at the instruction of 94 00:06:50,155 --> 00:06:54,315 Speaker 1: the Constitution of the United States. And the John Roberts 95 00:06:54,395 --> 00:06:57,635 Speaker 1: answer to that is going to be what, Well, Yes, 96 00:06:57,715 --> 00:07:03,275 Speaker 1: state's rights always not these states rights. As the Trump 97 00:07:03,355 --> 00:07:07,595 Speaker 1: liquors circle the wagons around Baby Hitler and cried due process. 98 00:07:07,955 --> 00:07:10,475 Speaker 1: Mister mss Dall also notes what I have noted here 99 00:07:10,515 --> 00:07:14,315 Speaker 1: before several times, that the disqualification clause of the Fourteenth 100 00:07:14,315 --> 00:07:20,035 Speaker 1: Amendment does not say convicted of insurrection, It says engaged 101 00:07:20,275 --> 00:07:26,395 Speaker 1: in insurrection. Senator elect former Confederate Vice President Alexander Stevens 102 00:07:26,435 --> 00:07:30,555 Speaker 1: was not convicted, but he was disqualified Senator elect Vance. 103 00:07:30,715 --> 00:07:34,835 Speaker 1: Same thing that would be Zebulan Vance, a Republican writer 104 00:07:35,555 --> 00:07:38,155 Speaker 1: and the Confederate governor of North Carolina from eighteen sixty 105 00:07:38,155 --> 00:07:42,115 Speaker 1: two to eighteen sixty five. So same general disloyalty is JD. Vance, 106 00:07:42,235 --> 00:07:47,115 Speaker 1: just a different century on. And remember those amendments. They 107 00:07:47,115 --> 00:07:50,035 Speaker 1: are the backbone of America. The Second Amendment, even though 108 00:07:50,035 --> 00:07:52,715 Speaker 1: it does not include the word own or any synonym 109 00:07:52,835 --> 00:07:56,915 Speaker 1: for own, well, it guarantees gun ownership rights forever. The 110 00:07:56,955 --> 00:08:00,395 Speaker 1: Fourteenth Amendment, because it does not include a picture of 111 00:08:00,515 --> 00:08:04,195 Speaker 1: Trump along with his Social Security number, it cannot be 112 00:08:04,275 --> 00:08:09,595 Speaker 1: used to qualify him. Ever, the reminder also that the 113 00:08:09,595 --> 00:08:14,075 Speaker 1: Fourteenth Amendment was written largely, in fact, almost exclusively by 114 00:08:14,555 --> 00:08:16,355 Speaker 1: Since they like to bring up their role in the 115 00:08:16,355 --> 00:08:19,875 Speaker 1: Civil War all the time, the Fourteenth Amendment was written 116 00:08:19,995 --> 00:08:28,515 Speaker 1: almost exclusively by Republicans. More seriously, this is the Supreme 117 00:08:28,555 --> 00:08:34,355 Speaker 1: Court justice's chance to redeem their souls and their court, 118 00:08:34,915 --> 00:08:39,395 Speaker 1: to prove they are stewards of the intent of the 119 00:08:39,395 --> 00:08:43,035 Speaker 1: framers of the original text and the amendments, and not incidentally, 120 00:08:43,075 --> 00:08:45,875 Speaker 1: to save the nation from a man who would destroy 121 00:08:45,955 --> 00:08:49,435 Speaker 1: any part of its purpose or ethos for his own 122 00:08:49,475 --> 00:08:54,395 Speaker 1: personal purposes or amusement, a man who would destroy the 123 00:08:54,435 --> 00:08:59,835 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, this Supreme Court, these justices, any one of them, 124 00:08:59,955 --> 00:09:05,755 Speaker 1: including the ones he appointed. Asked Bill Barr, imagine ultimately 125 00:09:06,395 --> 00:09:12,035 Speaker 1: the liberation of John Roberts and even Amy Coney Barrett 126 00:09:12,315 --> 00:09:17,835 Speaker 1: and maybe even Gorsich if they concurred with Colorado and 127 00:09:17,915 --> 00:09:25,755 Speaker 1: Trump was no more in the American political world. And 128 00:09:25,835 --> 00:09:28,715 Speaker 1: still speaking of Republicans and the fourteenth Amendment, it is 129 00:09:28,755 --> 00:09:31,875 Speaker 1: imperative right now to revisit the story that really lit 130 00:09:31,915 --> 00:09:35,555 Speaker 1: the first fire under the premise of disqualifying Trump simply 131 00:09:35,635 --> 00:09:42,115 Speaker 1: by you know, reading the Constitution. Early last August, Will Bode, Faculty, 132 00:09:42,115 --> 00:09:45,115 Speaker 1: director of the Constitutional Law Institute at the University of 133 00:09:45,155 --> 00:09:49,515 Speaker 1: Chicago Law School, former clerk for Chief Justice Roberts, He 134 00:09:49,595 --> 00:09:52,595 Speaker 1: gave the Scalia Lecture at Harvard Law early this year. 135 00:09:53,035 --> 00:09:56,795 Speaker 1: Member of the Federalist Society, and not just that, but 136 00:09:56,915 --> 00:09:59,595 Speaker 1: past winner of the Federalist Society Award for the Best 137 00:09:59,635 --> 00:10:02,675 Speaker 1: Young Law Professor, the award they once gave to John 138 00:10:02,995 --> 00:10:06,355 Speaker 1: u the guy who told George Bushy had the high 139 00:10:06,395 --> 00:10:11,315 Speaker 1: sign to do the torture this. Professor Bode revealed that 140 00:10:11,395 --> 00:10:14,915 Speaker 1: he and constitutional law professor Michael Stokes Paulson were to 141 00:10:15,035 --> 00:10:18,715 Speaker 1: publish in the University of Pennsylvania Law Review during twenty 142 00:10:18,755 --> 00:10:24,795 Speaker 1: twenty four their studied academic, dry as dust constitutional scholarly 143 00:10:24,835 --> 00:10:28,915 Speaker 1: analysis that there was no debate about this, that there 144 00:10:28,995 --> 00:10:34,555 Speaker 1: was no lawsuit required, no protests nor rallies necessary. That quote, 145 00:10:34,715 --> 00:10:39,555 Speaker 1: Donald Trump cannot be president, cannot run for president, cannot 146 00:10:39,595 --> 00:10:45,475 Speaker 1: become president, cannot hold office unless two thirds of Congress 147 00:10:45,515 --> 00:10:52,755 Speaker 1: decides to grant him amnesty for his conduct on January sixth, unquote, 148 00:10:52,795 --> 00:10:56,355 Speaker 1: Professor Bode said that, summarizing it for The New York Times, 149 00:10:57,035 --> 00:11:00,795 Speaker 1: in that quote, though he is almost wishy washy compared 150 00:11:00,795 --> 00:11:03,195 Speaker 1: to what he and Paulson write in the paper itself, 151 00:11:03,515 --> 00:11:06,795 Speaker 1: it is unquestionably fair to say that Trump engaged in 152 00:11:07,035 --> 00:11:11,515 Speaker 1: the January sixth insurrection through both his actions and his inaction. 153 00:11:12,315 --> 00:11:15,955 Speaker 1: The bottom line is that Donald Trump both engaged in 154 00:11:15,955 --> 00:11:20,755 Speaker 1: insurrection or rebellion and gave aid or comfort to others 155 00:11:21,035 --> 00:11:25,435 Speaker 1: engaging in such conduct within the original meaning of those 156 00:11:25,555 --> 00:11:29,555 Speaker 1: terms as a void in section three of the fourteenth Amendment. 157 00:11:30,635 --> 00:11:36,595 Speaker 1: Professors Bode and Paulson of the Federalist Society devoted a 158 00:11:36,755 --> 00:11:42,875 Speaker 1: year to studying the original meaning of it. Because the 159 00:11:42,995 --> 00:11:47,795 Speaker 1: ultra conservative Federalist Society have I mentioned these guys are 160 00:11:47,915 --> 00:11:53,395 Speaker 1: in the Federalist Society. The Federalist Society believes the Constitution 161 00:11:53,515 --> 00:11:57,155 Speaker 1: can be interpreted only in exactly the way its authors, 162 00:11:57,235 --> 00:12:01,395 Speaker 1: including the authors of the amendments, intended at the time. 163 00:12:02,755 --> 00:12:06,675 Speaker 1: A year studying this, and their conclusion was not just 164 00:12:06,755 --> 00:12:10,755 Speaker 1: that Trump is ineligible to be president, or to be 165 00:12:10,995 --> 00:12:15,915 Speaker 1: elected president, or to run for president, but that it's automatic. 166 00:12:16,395 --> 00:12:20,835 Speaker 1: It is the default position. It is to right this minute. 167 00:12:20,995 --> 00:12:24,275 Speaker 1: A lawsuit shouldn't be a debate over the meaning, they say. 168 00:12:25,195 --> 00:12:27,835 Speaker 1: A lawsuit should only be there as a measure to 169 00:12:28,075 --> 00:12:32,755 Speaker 1: force every official who has to certify a candidate's eligibility 170 00:12:32,835 --> 00:12:38,515 Speaker 1: to refuse to certify Trump because he is not eligible. 171 00:12:39,235 --> 00:12:43,835 Speaker 1: I mean, listen to this quote. Section three's disqualification rule 172 00:12:43,955 --> 00:12:50,675 Speaker 1: may and must be followed applied honored, obeyed, enforced, carried 173 00:12:50,715 --> 00:12:54,395 Speaker 1: out by anyone whose job it is to figure out 174 00:12:54,595 --> 00:12:59,595 Speaker 1: whether someone is legally qualified to office. In other words, 175 00:12:59,635 --> 00:13:02,715 Speaker 1: if you don't keep Trump off the ballot, if you 176 00:13:02,915 --> 00:13:07,195 Speaker 1: don't keep Trump off about, you may have broken the law. 177 00:13:08,755 --> 00:13:12,115 Speaker 1: As mister Bodes said, quote, the question of should Donald 178 00:13:12,155 --> 00:13:15,555 Speaker 1: Trump go to jail is entrusted to the criminal process. 179 00:13:15,955 --> 00:13:17,955 Speaker 1: The question of should he be allowed to take the 180 00:13:17,995 --> 00:13:22,195 Speaker 1: constitutional oath again and be given constitutional power again is 181 00:13:22,315 --> 00:13:28,715 Speaker 1: not a question given to any jury unquote. Again, this 182 00:13:28,875 --> 00:13:33,635 Speaker 1: was not written by the late Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I 183 00:13:33,715 --> 00:13:39,435 Speaker 1: mentioned Professor Bode's resume. Professor Paulson's is thirty five pages long, 184 00:13:40,195 --> 00:13:43,435 Speaker 1: and it indicates that, apart from his primary expertise the 185 00:13:43,475 --> 00:13:47,475 Speaker 1: Constitution and the federal laws relating to the Constitution, his 186 00:13:47,635 --> 00:13:51,915 Speaker 1: other areas of specialization are Church and State and abortions 187 00:13:51,955 --> 00:13:58,795 Speaker 1: slash right to life. These men should be Conservative superstars, 188 00:13:59,715 --> 00:14:04,315 Speaker 1: and Bode's work connected by clerkship to John Roberts and 189 00:14:04,355 --> 00:14:10,195 Speaker 1: by recognition to antonin Bloody Scalia, his work should actually 190 00:14:10,235 --> 00:14:15,235 Speaker 1: influence this court except for one thing. After their advocacy 191 00:14:15,515 --> 00:14:19,635 Speaker 1: for the Fourteenth Amendment and their insistence it is automatic 192 00:14:19,635 --> 00:14:22,355 Speaker 1: that right now, Trump is ineligible to be on the 193 00:14:22,355 --> 00:14:25,635 Speaker 1: ballot in Colorado or anywhere else. After that came out 194 00:14:25,795 --> 00:14:30,035 Speaker 1: last August, the fascists were silent for a day or so, 195 00:14:30,475 --> 00:14:34,915 Speaker 1: and then they found it. Professor Bod had at some 196 00:14:35,155 --> 00:14:41,995 Speaker 1: point been branded a never trumper, and in the world 197 00:14:41,995 --> 00:14:47,115 Speaker 1: of Baby Hitler and the Nazi etes, that's it. That's final. 198 00:14:48,475 --> 00:14:51,675 Speaker 1: He's opposed to Trump, therefore he's lying. There is no 199 00:14:51,795 --> 00:14:55,755 Speaker 1: argument for disqualification. There is no applicability of the fourteenth Amendment. 200 00:14:56,155 --> 00:14:58,675 Speaker 1: There is no fourteenth Amendment. In fact, Bod is a 201 00:14:58,715 --> 00:15:05,875 Speaker 1: never trumper. Therefore there is no number fourteen. When the 202 00:15:05,875 --> 00:15:11,395 Speaker 1: Colorado Supreme Court ruled Trump ineligible because of his insurrection, 203 00:15:11,835 --> 00:15:15,475 Speaker 1: a writer for the Free Beacon, which is a pretty 204 00:15:15,475 --> 00:15:20,035 Speaker 1: fascist outfit, but in a minor league kind of way, 205 00:15:20,355 --> 00:15:23,955 Speaker 1: a writer named Drew Holden tweeted, in case you were 206 00:15:23,995 --> 00:15:27,395 Speaker 1: wondering why Dems and the media kept calling January sixth 207 00:15:27,475 --> 00:15:33,555 Speaker 1: an insurrection, it was to make this possible. On January sixth, 208 00:15:34,235 --> 00:15:39,795 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, this sane guy, Drew Holden, tweeted, the 209 00:15:39,835 --> 00:15:42,715 Speaker 1: president of the United States, a man of our political 210 00:15:42,755 --> 00:15:46,035 Speaker 1: party conservatives, has given cover to a collective action that 211 00:15:46,075 --> 00:15:53,875 Speaker 1: can only be called insurrection. This is the way they think, 212 00:15:54,835 --> 00:15:58,635 Speaker 1: or more accurately, the way they do not think. They 213 00:15:58,675 --> 00:16:04,515 Speaker 1: do not even remember their world before they enslaved themselves 214 00:16:04,955 --> 00:16:09,515 Speaker 1: to Baby Hitler. And the loyalty requires the denial not 215 00:16:09,675 --> 00:16:12,595 Speaker 1: just of all other realities, but of refusing to take 216 00:16:12,635 --> 00:16:17,475 Speaker 1: the arguments of others or the arguments of themselves in 217 00:16:17,515 --> 00:16:22,075 Speaker 1: the past. As you know, sincere but mistaken, there is 218 00:16:22,275 --> 00:16:28,075 Speaker 1: only obeyance, there is only servitude. They are on a 219 00:16:28,115 --> 00:16:33,995 Speaker 1: mission to serve Trump and install totalitarianism on his behalf, 220 00:16:34,235 --> 00:16:37,595 Speaker 1: and no logic, nor persuasion, nor law, nor what they 221 00:16:37,675 --> 00:16:42,435 Speaker 1: said last week will stop them. I said it last week, 222 00:16:42,475 --> 00:16:45,195 Speaker 1: and I'll say it again. This is the scene in 223 00:16:45,355 --> 00:16:49,395 Speaker 1: our real life re enactment of the film Rosemary's Baby 224 00:16:49,515 --> 00:16:52,635 Speaker 1: where Mia Farrow shakes off the drugs, then the anesthetics 225 00:16:52,675 --> 00:16:55,315 Speaker 1: and the gaslighting, and she sees the devil on top 226 00:16:55,355 --> 00:16:58,715 Speaker 1: of her and she shouts, this is no dream, this 227 00:16:58,955 --> 00:17:05,475 Speaker 1: is really happening. And by the way they're publican Party 228 00:17:05,475 --> 00:17:08,315 Speaker 1: of Colorado has found a way around the state Supreme 229 00:17:08,355 --> 00:17:11,795 Speaker 1: Court and maybe the US Supreme Court, and maybe the 230 00:17:11,795 --> 00:17:15,235 Speaker 1: Supreme Court of the planet Skyron in the galaxy of Andromeda. 231 00:17:15,795 --> 00:17:21,155 Speaker 1: Trump can't be on the Colorado primary ballot, then we 232 00:17:21,315 --> 00:17:25,915 Speaker 1: don't hold a primary. This is the genius plan of 233 00:17:26,075 --> 00:17:30,595 Speaker 1: Dave Williams, the whackdoodle election denier who has only been 234 00:17:30,755 --> 00:17:34,675 Speaker 1: Colorado GOP chair since March but has nearly bankrupted the 235 00:17:34,755 --> 00:17:39,435 Speaker 1: organization already. Now Williams wants to scrap the primary if 236 00:17:39,475 --> 00:17:42,355 Speaker 1: Trump is struck from it, and he wants to get 237 00:17:42,355 --> 00:17:45,475 Speaker 1: permission from the National GOP and work something out for 238 00:17:45,555 --> 00:17:50,675 Speaker 1: caucuses with the Secretary of State. And then Dave only 239 00:17:50,715 --> 00:17:56,355 Speaker 1: read part of the story right. The Colorado Court ruled 240 00:17:56,355 --> 00:18:00,155 Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment applies, and because Trump is disqualified from 241 00:18:00,235 --> 00:18:04,195 Speaker 1: being president or holding any office, he can't be on 242 00:18:04,275 --> 00:18:08,515 Speaker 1: the cot Colorado ballot as a presidential candidate or anything else. 243 00:18:08,675 --> 00:18:13,235 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter how you nominate him. Dave, I guess this 244 00:18:13,355 --> 00:18:16,155 Speaker 1: would protect Trump from having to see somebody else quote 245 00:18:16,235 --> 00:18:21,675 Speaker 1: win Colorado unquote. Also, last night, Trump waited into American history, 246 00:18:21,715 --> 00:18:24,235 Speaker 1: and like anything that is not entirely about him, he 247 00:18:24,315 --> 00:18:27,275 Speaker 1: made an utter fool out of himself. The last time 248 00:18:27,355 --> 00:18:30,875 Speaker 1: the Democrats took someone off the ballot was in eighteen sixty. 249 00:18:31,155 --> 00:18:34,355 Speaker 1: They would not allow a man named Abraham Lincoln to 250 00:18:34,435 --> 00:18:39,435 Speaker 1: be so much as mentioned in the Slave States all right. 251 00:18:39,595 --> 00:18:43,915 Speaker 1: In eighteen ninety two, the Republicans in Florida took the 252 00:18:43,995 --> 00:18:49,875 Speaker 1: incumbent Republican President Benjamin Harrison off the ballot because they 253 00:18:49,995 --> 00:18:55,115 Speaker 1: preferred their own Republican nominee, the populist James B. Weaver. 254 00:18:55,715 --> 00:18:59,835 Speaker 1: He was the Republican candidate in Florida in eighteen ninety two. 255 00:18:59,955 --> 00:19:04,075 Speaker 1: In nineteen twelve, the Republicans in California and South Dakota 256 00:19:04,155 --> 00:19:08,955 Speaker 1: again took their own incumbent Republican President, William Howard Taft, 257 00:19:09,355 --> 00:19:12,515 Speaker 1: off the ballot so they could make Teddy Roosevelt their 258 00:19:12,555 --> 00:19:16,835 Speaker 1: official Republican nominee in those states, and the Republicans and 259 00:19:16,875 --> 00:19:21,755 Speaker 1: the Democrats in Alabama twice kept incumbent presidents off the 260 00:19:21,795 --> 00:19:24,275 Speaker 1: ballot Harry Truman in nineteen forty eight and Linda Johnson 261 00:19:24,315 --> 00:19:26,835 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty four, because both of them tried to 262 00:19:26,995 --> 00:19:30,715 Speaker 1: end segregation. So if you're going to dive in to 263 00:19:30,915 --> 00:19:34,595 Speaker 1: who got removed from the ballot by whom Dementia Jay, 264 00:19:34,955 --> 00:19:38,995 Speaker 1: be careful what you wish for, because your comparison may 265 00:19:39,075 --> 00:19:42,075 Speaker 1: not turn out to be Lincoln. It may turn out 266 00:19:42,115 --> 00:19:51,195 Speaker 1: to be William Howard Taft. You know it's oddly apt, 267 00:19:51,355 --> 00:19:55,235 Speaker 1: isn't it. Trump and William Howard Taft now to the 268 00:19:55,315 --> 00:19:59,875 Speaker 1: lighter side of the news, and Adolph Hitler. The Biden 269 00:19:59,995 --> 00:20:03,395 Speaker 1: campaign has now crossed the rubicon on this, and I 270 00:20:03,475 --> 00:20:06,315 Speaker 1: mean in a good way. In the in your face 271 00:20:06,435 --> 00:20:09,235 Speaker 1: graphic with white letters on a red stripe and white 272 00:20:09,315 --> 00:20:11,915 Speaker 1: letters on a black stripe, and three pictures of Trump 273 00:20:12,035 --> 00:20:15,675 Speaker 1: and two pictures of Hitler, and the heading Trump Parrot's 274 00:20:15,915 --> 00:20:19,915 Speaker 1: Hitler and Trump's vermin quote, followed by Hitler's vermin quote, 275 00:20:19,915 --> 00:20:23,275 Speaker 1: followed by Trump's poisoning the blood quote, followed by Hitler's 276 00:20:23,395 --> 00:20:26,355 Speaker 1: contamination of the blood quote, followed by Trump's quote that 277 00:20:26,395 --> 00:20:29,755 Speaker 1: his political opponents are worse than Putin or Kim John. Oh, 278 00:20:30,155 --> 00:20:33,915 Speaker 1: that is some serious stuff. And also at the top 279 00:20:34,155 --> 00:20:38,515 Speaker 1: in the textbox above that graphic. This is not a coincidence. 280 00:20:39,835 --> 00:20:42,595 Speaker 1: President Biden himself has not gone that far, but a 281 00:20:42,635 --> 00:20:45,955 Speaker 1: little over four hours later, on his personal account, quote 282 00:20:46,155 --> 00:20:49,075 Speaker 1: Trump poses many threats to our country, the right to 283 00:20:49,235 --> 00:20:52,835 Speaker 1: choose civil rights, voting rights, at America's standing in the world, 284 00:20:53,035 --> 00:20:56,195 Speaker 1: But the greatest threat he poses is two our democracy. 285 00:20:56,555 --> 00:21:01,235 Speaker 1: If we lose that we lose everything on the Republican side. 286 00:21:01,275 --> 00:21:04,315 Speaker 1: It's almost as if Nicky Haley actually wanted to say 287 00:21:04,355 --> 00:21:07,755 Speaker 1: something like that to slam Trump for the poisoning comment. 288 00:21:08,555 --> 00:21:11,155 Speaker 1: But she is still the hapless, witless, gutless suck up 289 00:21:11,195 --> 00:21:13,875 Speaker 1: she was when she worked for him. She told the 290 00:21:13,875 --> 00:21:17,195 Speaker 1: Des Moines Register yesterday that Trump's comments were quote not 291 00:21:17,435 --> 00:21:23,235 Speaker 1: constructive end quote not necessary, end quote not helpful, to 292 00:21:23,275 --> 00:21:28,115 Speaker 1: which I say her comments are quote not enough. As 293 00:21:28,115 --> 00:21:31,235 Speaker 1: to baby Hitler himself, I think he took the night 294 00:21:31,315 --> 00:21:35,875 Speaker 1: off from campaigning so he could stay in and catch 295 00:21:35,955 --> 00:21:40,235 Speaker 1: up on his reading rise and fallow the third rite. 296 00:21:40,235 --> 00:21:44,875 Speaker 1: Maybe I have to admit something. While putting out the 297 00:21:44,915 --> 00:21:49,035 Speaker 1: bulletin and the regular edition Tuesday night, I completely missed 298 00:21:49,155 --> 00:21:54,075 Speaker 1: two things about his speech in Iowa. One, as the 299 00:21:54,115 --> 00:22:01,115 Speaker 1: Colorado Court was ruling, Trump was in Iowa, in Waterloo, Iowa, 300 00:22:01,235 --> 00:22:04,915 Speaker 1: coincidence less coincidentally, but more ominously, it was already a 301 00:22:04,915 --> 00:22:08,315 Speaker 1: clear sign of what's left of his sanity, barreling down 302 00:22:08,315 --> 00:22:10,915 Speaker 1: the hill before it utterly jumps the tracks at the 303 00:22:10,995 --> 00:22:15,075 Speaker 1: curve that Trump thought denying that he had ever read 304 00:22:15,235 --> 00:22:19,635 Speaker 1: mind comp was a great flex. But did you hear 305 00:22:20,595 --> 00:22:23,555 Speaker 1: what he said? Right? After he said he'd never read 306 00:22:23,595 --> 00:22:27,555 Speaker 1: mine comp. I did not hear it until yesterday. 307 00:22:27,675 --> 00:22:31,995 Speaker 3: They're ruining our country, and it's true. They're destroying the 308 00:22:32,035 --> 00:22:35,075 Speaker 3: blood of our country. That's what they're doing. They're destroying 309 00:22:35,155 --> 00:22:37,435 Speaker 3: our country. They don't like it when I said that 310 00:22:37,555 --> 00:22:41,155 Speaker 3: and I never read mind compf They said, oh, Hitler 311 00:22:41,195 --> 00:22:43,195 Speaker 3: said that in a much different way. 312 00:22:44,355 --> 00:22:50,115 Speaker 1: They said, oh Hitler said that in a much different way. Well, 313 00:22:50,155 --> 00:22:52,755 Speaker 1: if you never read mind comp, how do you know 314 00:22:52,835 --> 00:22:57,315 Speaker 1: it was in a much different way. Plus, the denial 315 00:22:57,435 --> 00:23:00,715 Speaker 1: is not just I didn't read that Hitler book. It's 316 00:23:01,155 --> 00:23:04,675 Speaker 1: I didn't read that Hitler book. And sure I'm saying 317 00:23:04,795 --> 00:23:07,155 Speaker 1: the same things Hitler did, but in a much different way. 318 00:23:09,155 --> 00:23:11,755 Speaker 1: See now, this is why, sooner or later, every person 319 00:23:11,755 --> 00:23:15,435 Speaker 1: who succeeds for a time by being unfiltered or telling 320 00:23:15,515 --> 00:23:19,915 Speaker 1: it like it really is, eventually falls off a cliff. 321 00:23:21,395 --> 00:23:24,515 Speaker 1: Hitler and I agree, we just say it differently is 322 00:23:25,395 --> 00:23:31,875 Speaker 1: not much of a defense. And once again, the last 323 00:23:31,955 --> 00:23:35,035 Speaker 1: eight years has taught us that for decades there have 324 00:23:35,155 --> 00:23:41,435 Speaker 1: lived among us millions of bigots and sadists and massochists 325 00:23:41,555 --> 00:23:43,835 Speaker 1: who were just pretending not to be any of those 326 00:23:43,835 --> 00:23:47,235 Speaker 1: things until somebody would come along to liberate them from 327 00:23:47,675 --> 00:23:52,315 Speaker 1: you know, self restraint. But like the dictator for a 328 00:23:52,395 --> 00:23:58,355 Speaker 1: day thing, Trump is again providing Biden with goldwater, will 329 00:23:58,475 --> 00:24:02,555 Speaker 1: drop the bomb on poor little Daisy caliber campaign ads. 330 00:24:03,275 --> 00:24:17,195 Speaker 1: I mean five four three? 331 00:24:18,715 --> 00:24:27,395 Speaker 3: Why there? These are the stakes and I never read mine? 332 00:24:27,435 --> 00:24:31,075 Speaker 3: Camp they said, Oh, Hitler said that in a much 333 00:24:31,115 --> 00:24:32,035 Speaker 3: different way. 334 00:24:32,675 --> 00:24:37,795 Speaker 1: We must either love each other or we must die. 335 00:24:38,355 --> 00:24:43,755 Speaker 1: Vote for President Biden on November fifth. The stakes are 336 00:24:43,795 --> 00:24:53,515 Speaker 1: too high for you to stay home. Also of interest here, 337 00:24:53,595 --> 00:24:56,355 Speaker 1: the plaintiffs and the judge were a little worried Rudy 338 00:24:56,355 --> 00:24:59,195 Speaker 1: Giuliani might not have the one hundred and forty eight 339 00:24:59,275 --> 00:25:04,315 Speaker 1: million he now owes them on him. So basically the 340 00:25:04,395 --> 00:25:09,875 Speaker 1: judge just ordered Rudy to pay up like tomorrow. And 341 00:25:09,995 --> 00:25:14,155 Speaker 1: next on that front, Carrie Lake was confident that the 342 00:25:14,195 --> 00:25:17,435 Speaker 1: defamation case against her was going to be dismissed by 343 00:25:17,475 --> 00:25:21,515 Speaker 1: the judge. Well, Lake has not won a single court 344 00:25:21,635 --> 00:25:24,355 Speaker 1: verdict yet, and guess what she ain't about to start 345 00:25:24,435 --> 00:25:30,955 Speaker 1: doing so now that's next. This is countdown. This is 346 00:25:31,075 --> 00:25:56,195 Speaker 1: countdown with Keith oldwoman still to come on. Countdown of 347 00:25:56,275 --> 00:26:00,035 Speaker 1: all the people I have kept busy and perhaps driven 348 00:26:00,155 --> 00:26:04,635 Speaker 1: crazy in my career, the least publicized. The least reward 349 00:26:04,715 --> 00:26:09,235 Speaker 1: did have been the poor station and network publicity guys 350 00:26:09,915 --> 00:26:13,475 Speaker 1: who've had to deal with me over the years. While 351 00:26:13,515 --> 00:26:16,355 Speaker 1: I understood them and cooperated with them far better than 352 00:26:16,395 --> 00:26:20,315 Speaker 1: the average broadcaster, I also pulled them out onto the 353 00:26:20,355 --> 00:26:24,355 Speaker 1: tightrope with me far more often than the average broadcaster. 354 00:26:24,955 --> 00:26:27,195 Speaker 1: Some were terrible at their jobs. There was one in 355 00:26:27,235 --> 00:26:30,635 Speaker 1: Los Angeles at KCBS who was best friends with the 356 00:26:30,635 --> 00:26:35,275 Speaker 1: sportscaster at KNBC and used to feed him stories about 357 00:26:35,275 --> 00:26:38,595 Speaker 1: me until management caught onto it and fired the whole department. 358 00:26:39,875 --> 00:26:44,275 Speaker 1: Some at ESPN were really helpful and sympathetic and friendly 359 00:26:44,395 --> 00:26:46,595 Speaker 1: to this day, and two of them are in the news. 360 00:26:46,675 --> 00:26:50,435 Speaker 1: Chrys LaPlaca just retired as the head of communications since 361 00:26:50,515 --> 00:26:53,315 Speaker 1: length the day they turned the first shovel of dirt, 362 00:26:53,915 --> 00:26:56,875 Speaker 1: and he has been succeeded by Josh Krulowitz, who I 363 00:26:56,875 --> 00:26:59,395 Speaker 1: have been torturing off and on since the early nineties. 364 00:26:59,675 --> 00:27:01,315 Speaker 1: So I thought this was a good time to mention 365 00:27:01,435 --> 00:27:04,195 Speaker 1: the day in May nineteen ninety seven, when I finally 366 00:27:04,315 --> 00:27:11,075 Speaker 1: ereb coupley and permanently left ESPN and SportsCenter forever, except 367 00:27:11,075 --> 00:27:13,115 Speaker 1: for when I returned to ESPN Radio in two thousand 368 00:27:13,115 --> 00:27:15,995 Speaker 1: and five, and then I returned to ESPN two in 369 00:27:15,995 --> 00:27:18,515 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, and then I returned to Sports Center in 370 00:27:18,515 --> 00:27:22,315 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Anyway, the story of the exit coming up 371 00:27:22,355 --> 00:27:24,795 Speaker 1: in Things I Promise not to tell first time for 372 00:27:24,835 --> 00:27:27,355 Speaker 1: the daily roundup of the misgrants, morons and Dunning Kruger 373 00:27:27,355 --> 00:27:33,355 Speaker 1: effects specimens who constitute today's worse persons in the world, 374 00:27:34,355 --> 00:27:39,235 Speaker 1: the Bronze worse Kelly and Conway. I think Democrats wake 375 00:27:39,315 --> 00:27:42,275 Speaker 1: up every morning and they look at the calendar on 376 00:27:42,315 --> 00:27:46,595 Speaker 1: the iPhone and it says January sixth. The former d 377 00:27:46,715 --> 00:27:49,835 Speaker 1: List pundit for when all the smart ones were booked 378 00:27:50,235 --> 00:27:54,395 Speaker 1: told Fox Noise that day never changes and when they 379 00:27:54,395 --> 00:27:57,555 Speaker 1: get into an electric vehicle and go get an abortion, 380 00:27:59,915 --> 00:28:04,075 Speaker 1: every day is January sixth. Kelly and con Job, you're 381 00:28:04,075 --> 00:28:06,355 Speaker 1: talking about shelf life and letting go of the past. 382 00:28:08,835 --> 00:28:10,795 Speaker 1: That would be way less funny if Kelly Anne wasn't 383 00:28:10,835 --> 00:28:13,395 Speaker 1: part of the Christo fascist attempt to take over the country, 384 00:28:13,835 --> 00:28:16,475 Speaker 1: which of course has as its roots the life and 385 00:28:16,515 --> 00:28:20,395 Speaker 1: death of Jesus Christ two thousand years ago. But we're 386 00:28:20,435 --> 00:28:23,995 Speaker 1: worried about three years ago. Shame on us. Also, I 387 00:28:23,995 --> 00:28:26,595 Speaker 1: am beginning to become convinced that there is no such 388 00:28:26,675 --> 00:28:29,635 Speaker 1: person as Kelly Ann Conway, that she is a satirical 389 00:28:29,715 --> 00:28:34,755 Speaker 1: comedy character portrayed by a really dedicated actor, a guy 390 00:28:34,875 --> 00:28:37,675 Speaker 1: who's really in there on the bit, the way Dame 391 00:28:37,875 --> 00:28:44,195 Speaker 1: Edna Everidge was portrayed by Barry Humphries or whoever is 392 00:28:44,235 --> 00:28:48,195 Speaker 1: doing the Kellyanne Conway character is also portraying the satirical 393 00:28:48,235 --> 00:28:52,675 Speaker 1: comedy character known as Harris Faulkner Runner Up, where Sir 394 00:28:52,835 --> 00:28:55,715 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, who proves daily that stupidity and poor reading 395 00:28:55,755 --> 00:29:01,155 Speaker 1: comprehension can be extremely profitable. Liberals hate Christianity so much 396 00:29:01,155 --> 00:29:02,835 Speaker 1: they want to make it illegal for Chick fil A 397 00:29:02,955 --> 00:29:05,555 Speaker 1: to be closed on Sundays to provide employees a day 398 00:29:05,555 --> 00:29:10,235 Speaker 1: of rest. I left out paranoia, stupidity and poor reading 399 00:29:10,275 --> 00:29:15,395 Speaker 1: comprehension and paranoia. Turns out the story Kirk has warped 400 00:29:15,395 --> 00:29:19,835 Speaker 1: into some kind of Democrats versus Jesus thing. It's a 401 00:29:19,835 --> 00:29:23,515 Speaker 1: little different than he posits. Chick fil A is bidding 402 00:29:23,555 --> 00:29:25,555 Speaker 1: for the right to put its restaurants on the rest 403 00:29:25,555 --> 00:29:28,435 Speaker 1: stops on the New York State through Way and keep 404 00:29:28,475 --> 00:29:30,595 Speaker 1: the ones that are already there. And there is a 405 00:29:30,675 --> 00:29:34,675 Speaker 1: bill in the state legislature that would require all restaurants 406 00:29:35,395 --> 00:29:37,435 Speaker 1: at all the rest stops on the New York State 407 00:29:37,515 --> 00:29:42,195 Speaker 1: through Way to stay open and serve the customers seven 408 00:29:42,315 --> 00:29:46,435 Speaker 1: days a week because they all have semi monopolies. They're 409 00:29:46,475 --> 00:29:48,835 Speaker 1: the only things you can get on the through Way, 410 00:29:49,475 --> 00:29:51,235 Speaker 1: and part of the price they should pay for that 411 00:29:51,435 --> 00:29:54,035 Speaker 1: is you've got to be open when there are travelers. 412 00:29:54,235 --> 00:29:56,035 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of people who drive on 413 00:29:56,195 --> 00:30:01,555 Speaker 1: Sunday on the through Way, or as it's known where 414 00:30:01,555 --> 00:30:05,515 Speaker 1: I grew up, drive on Sunday on the True Way. 415 00:30:06,315 --> 00:30:12,115 Speaker 1: But the winner the worst, Carrie Lake. Carrie Lake is 416 00:30:12,155 --> 00:30:18,395 Speaker 1: getting rootied. She slandered Stephen Richer, County Recorder of Maricopa, Arizona, Republican. 417 00:30:18,435 --> 00:30:21,235 Speaker 1: By the way, of course, she slandered him this year, 418 00:30:21,715 --> 00:30:25,315 Speaker 1: claiming he intentionally printed the wrong image on the ballot 419 00:30:25,395 --> 00:30:29,755 Speaker 1: on election day so that tabulating machines would invalidate those ballots. 420 00:30:29,955 --> 00:30:33,475 Speaker 1: Obviously the ballots would have made Carrie Lake God or 421 00:30:33,475 --> 00:30:36,675 Speaker 1: whatever it is she was running for. Quote, these guys 422 00:30:36,755 --> 00:30:39,515 Speaker 1: are really really terrible at running elections, but I found 423 00:30:39,555 --> 00:30:42,675 Speaker 1: out they're really good at lying. And then Carrie Lake 424 00:30:42,755 --> 00:30:47,155 Speaker 1: said Richard profited financially by doing this, so he sued 425 00:30:47,155 --> 00:30:51,035 Speaker 1: her for defamation. She filed a demotion to dismiss the 426 00:30:51,115 --> 00:30:55,955 Speaker 1: court just denied it. She's going to trial for defamation now. Now, 427 00:30:55,995 --> 00:30:57,995 Speaker 1: as you may have heard and Carrie may have heard 428 00:30:57,995 --> 00:31:00,875 Speaker 1: but assumed it was just fake news, a jury awarded 429 00:31:00,955 --> 00:31:03,635 Speaker 1: Shay Moss and Ruby Freeman one hundred and forty eight 430 00:31:03,675 --> 00:31:07,235 Speaker 1: million dollars, and yesterday the judge ordered Rudy to pay 431 00:31:07,275 --> 00:31:10,235 Speaker 1: it now because there is every reason to think he's 432 00:31:10,275 --> 00:31:13,155 Speaker 1: going to try to avoid paying it ever, or to 433 00:31:13,355 --> 00:31:23,595 Speaker 1: hide assets. Carrie, Oh, Carrie Lake, You're next. Carrie. Never ever, 434 00:31:24,035 --> 00:31:29,795 Speaker 1: ever trust a fired TV newscaster from Phoenix Lake two 435 00:31:29,875 --> 00:31:54,555 Speaker 1: days worst person, including notescasters ever. There is a huge 436 00:31:54,875 --> 00:31:58,515 Speaker 1: oral history of ESPN from twenty eleven by Jim Miller, 437 00:31:59,075 --> 00:32:00,875 Speaker 1: and most of it is pretty good, but there's one 438 00:32:00,955 --> 00:32:04,875 Speaker 1: line in it that triggered this recollection. The executive he's 439 00:32:04,875 --> 00:32:07,195 Speaker 1: president of the company in nineteen ninety seven, was named 440 00:32:07,195 --> 00:32:09,795 Speaker 1: Howard Katz, and in this ESPN book he was quoted 441 00:32:09,835 --> 00:32:13,195 Speaker 1: as saying, I didn't fire Keith, I just chose not 442 00:32:13,355 --> 00:32:16,515 Speaker 1: to renew his contract. And then there's a couple of 443 00:32:16,595 --> 00:32:18,315 Speaker 1: quotes from guys I never heard of who said no, 444 00:32:18,395 --> 00:32:21,515 Speaker 1: we fired him. None of it's true. Howard and I 445 00:32:21,555 --> 00:32:24,995 Speaker 1: got along surprisingly well at ESPN and even better since 446 00:32:24,995 --> 00:32:27,315 Speaker 1: so I'm just going to assume he misremembered all this, 447 00:32:27,755 --> 00:32:31,115 Speaker 1: and he's right, I mean, legally, he chose not to 448 00:32:31,155 --> 00:32:33,795 Speaker 1: renew my contract early in nineteen ninety seven, and a 449 00:32:33,835 --> 00:32:36,475 Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, instead he offered me a new 450 00:32:37,115 --> 00:32:39,835 Speaker 1: four year contract which would have basically doubled my salary. 451 00:32:40,155 --> 00:32:42,315 Speaker 1: And even after I had said no thanks and I 452 00:32:42,355 --> 00:32:46,035 Speaker 1: signed with NBC, the then president of ABC, Bob Eiger, 453 00:32:46,635 --> 00:32:49,195 Speaker 1: whatever happened to him, tried to get me to back 454 00:32:49,275 --> 00:32:52,075 Speaker 1: out of the NBC deal, to renege on it, and 455 00:32:52,115 --> 00:32:55,195 Speaker 1: then sign a new deal at ESPN. So they offered 456 00:32:55,235 --> 00:33:00,635 Speaker 1: me two new deals after they didn't renew my old contract. 457 00:33:00,715 --> 00:33:03,555 Speaker 1: See how this works. In ninety six and ninety seven, 458 00:33:03,595 --> 00:33:06,515 Speaker 1: it was no secret that my choice was to leave ESPN. 459 00:33:07,075 --> 00:33:09,555 Speaker 1: I had come within hours of asking to be let 460 00:33:09,595 --> 00:33:11,915 Speaker 1: out of my deal. In the summer of nineteen ninety six, 461 00:33:12,075 --> 00:33:15,875 Speaker 1: a radio station in Chicago WMVP had wanted me to 462 00:33:15,915 --> 00:33:18,795 Speaker 1: go do the afternoon drive show there a mix of 463 00:33:18,875 --> 00:33:21,955 Speaker 1: news and sports, and they were offering me twice the 464 00:33:21,995 --> 00:33:25,475 Speaker 1: money I was getting to host SportsCenter, and I was 465 00:33:25,515 --> 00:33:28,235 Speaker 1: ready to go. Loved it, had a great week there. 466 00:33:28,475 --> 00:33:31,075 Speaker 1: They wined me, they dined me, and everybody offered me 467 00:33:31,115 --> 00:33:34,275 Speaker 1: a free beer. Welcome to Chicago, you're from out of town. 468 00:33:35,195 --> 00:33:38,635 Speaker 1: And then ownership of the radio station simply pulled the 469 00:33:38,675 --> 00:33:41,235 Speaker 1: plug on the station it was in thirty first place 470 00:33:41,715 --> 00:33:43,835 Speaker 1: and said they could save a lot more money by 471 00:33:43,875 --> 00:33:48,075 Speaker 1: simply rebroadcasting what was on FM radio. And eventually, and 472 00:33:48,155 --> 00:33:50,995 Speaker 1: this would have been interesting had I gone to Chicago. Eventually, 473 00:33:50,995 --> 00:33:57,835 Speaker 1: the owners sold WMVP to ESPN. Anyway, my ESPN deal 474 00:33:57,875 --> 00:34:01,115 Speaker 1: was set to expire on December thirty first, nineteen ninety seven, 475 00:34:01,195 --> 00:34:05,035 Speaker 1: but they had the option to extend it for I 476 00:34:05,035 --> 00:34:07,755 Speaker 1: can't remember either either for a year after that or 477 00:34:07,795 --> 00:34:11,235 Speaker 1: two years. But they had to notify me really early 478 00:34:11,395 --> 00:34:16,275 Speaker 1: in ninety seven, and instead, on February eighteenth, nineteen ninety seven, 479 00:34:16,315 --> 00:34:19,155 Speaker 1: Howard Katz proposed to my then agent that we tear 480 00:34:19,235 --> 00:34:21,755 Speaker 1: up the contract and do a new four year deal 481 00:34:22,075 --> 00:34:25,315 Speaker 1: that started at seven hundred thousand dollars a year and 482 00:34:25,475 --> 00:34:28,675 Speaker 1: covered a radio show with Dan Patrick and the Sunday 483 00:34:28,795 --> 00:34:32,235 Speaker 1: edition of Sports Center and the sp Awards ceremonies and 484 00:34:32,275 --> 00:34:35,955 Speaker 1: the Internet and everything else. This was a lot of 485 00:34:36,035 --> 00:34:39,955 Speaker 1: money for ESPN in nineteen ninety seven, seven hundred thousand 486 00:34:40,035 --> 00:34:43,115 Speaker 1: dollars a year. So we played around with that for 487 00:34:43,155 --> 00:34:45,835 Speaker 1: a while. But I didn't really want to go into 488 00:34:45,955 --> 00:34:49,955 Speaker 1: radio full time, not then when I still had dark hair. 489 00:34:50,435 --> 00:34:53,195 Speaker 1: So on April fourth, nineteen ninety seven, Howard Katz came 490 00:34:53,235 --> 00:34:56,155 Speaker 1: back with another offer, three sports centers a week plus 491 00:34:56,195 --> 00:34:59,835 Speaker 1: some radio, starting at five hundred and fifty thousand dollars 492 00:34:59,875 --> 00:35:02,595 Speaker 1: a year. I noticed that this was less than the 493 00:35:02,635 --> 00:35:05,435 Speaker 1: first offer, So two weeks later, we're at the first 494 00:35:05,635 --> 00:35:08,755 Speaker 1: ever Jackie Robinson Night at Chase Stadium in New York. 495 00:35:09,075 --> 00:35:11,235 Speaker 1: Howard came up to me and asked me, in front 496 00:35:11,235 --> 00:35:14,715 Speaker 1: of everybody in our booth, ranging from Chris Berman to 497 00:35:14,795 --> 00:35:18,035 Speaker 1: Robin Roberts, to all the producers, and briefly to President 498 00:35:18,075 --> 00:35:21,075 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, he asked me if we were close on 499 00:35:21,115 --> 00:35:24,155 Speaker 1: this new deal that he'd offered me. I got angry 500 00:35:24,235 --> 00:35:26,355 Speaker 1: at him. He got angry at me for getting angry 501 00:35:26,355 --> 00:35:27,835 Speaker 1: at him, and I said, you know, forget it. And 502 00:35:27,875 --> 00:35:29,515 Speaker 1: what's more, it makes no sense for me to hang 503 00:35:29,555 --> 00:35:33,555 Speaker 1: around here as a lame duck. Howard, Wait, Howard the Duck, 504 00:35:34,275 --> 00:35:36,155 Speaker 1: and he calmed down. He said I could look at 505 00:35:36,155 --> 00:35:38,915 Speaker 1: other jobs and we'd let things cool off and talk 506 00:35:38,955 --> 00:35:41,075 Speaker 1: again about a new deal in a few weeks after 507 00:35:41,075 --> 00:35:42,635 Speaker 1: I looked around to see if it was something I'd 508 00:35:42,715 --> 00:35:45,035 Speaker 1: rather do than be at ESPN, and if it still 509 00:35:45,075 --> 00:35:47,475 Speaker 1: wasn't going anywhere, we would agree on a date early 510 00:35:47,515 --> 00:35:49,795 Speaker 1: in the summer and I could leave six months before 511 00:35:49,795 --> 00:35:54,035 Speaker 1: the contract officially ended. And then three huge things happened 512 00:35:54,035 --> 00:35:56,635 Speaker 1: about this that most people still don't know to this day, 513 00:35:57,235 --> 00:36:00,795 Speaker 1: even after all that, When I called Phil Mushnick of 514 00:36:00,795 --> 00:36:03,075 Speaker 1: the New York Post and Richard Sandomir of the New 515 00:36:03,155 --> 00:36:05,995 Speaker 1: York Times, and I told them I would be leaving ESPN, 516 00:36:06,395 --> 00:36:08,115 Speaker 1: and it appeared I would be going to go to 517 00:36:08,235 --> 00:36:11,395 Speaker 1: Court TV to be the host and executive producer of 518 00:36:11,395 --> 00:36:14,755 Speaker 1: my own sports show, four nights a week. I almost 519 00:36:14,995 --> 00:36:18,875 Speaker 1: stayed at ESPN once it got out that I was leaving. 520 00:36:19,355 --> 00:36:21,795 Speaker 1: I got a letter from a viewer who told me 521 00:36:21,875 --> 00:36:24,675 Speaker 1: that his son, who had autism, had been at his 522 00:36:24,795 --> 00:36:28,435 Speaker 1: other son's little league game, and when his brother banged 523 00:36:28,475 --> 00:36:32,595 Speaker 1: out a base hit, this kid, who had rarely ever 524 00:36:32,795 --> 00:36:38,115 Speaker 1: spoken in his life, suddenly shouted out One of my catchphrases. 525 00:36:38,955 --> 00:36:43,315 Speaker 1: This guy said, he hit the ball real hard. Then 526 00:36:43,355 --> 00:36:45,955 Speaker 1: there was a flyball and the boy said, it's deep, 527 00:36:45,995 --> 00:36:49,035 Speaker 1: and I don't think it's playable. Then they went home, 528 00:36:49,075 --> 00:36:55,395 Speaker 1: and this virtually noncommunicative child began to draw illustrations of 529 00:36:55,435 --> 00:37:00,195 Speaker 1: my catchphrases. For whatever reason, I had triggered some kind 530 00:37:00,195 --> 00:37:04,075 Speaker 1: of blossoming by this child at his brother and his 531 00:37:04,115 --> 00:37:09,195 Speaker 1: father sent me a book of the child's illustrations of 532 00:37:09,195 --> 00:37:13,515 Speaker 1: my catchphrases. I am not trying to suggest I really 533 00:37:13,515 --> 00:37:16,475 Speaker 1: had anything to do with this. It was good fortune 534 00:37:16,555 --> 00:37:19,715 Speaker 1: and circumstance and probably something to do with the tone 535 00:37:19,755 --> 00:37:22,955 Speaker 1: of my voice, nothing more. But I was very moved 536 00:37:22,955 --> 00:37:25,915 Speaker 1: by this, and I remain so and by other things. 537 00:37:25,955 --> 00:37:27,795 Speaker 1: People wrote to me or wrote in the press about 538 00:37:27,795 --> 00:37:30,155 Speaker 1: how much the show Dan and I did meant to them. 539 00:37:30,435 --> 00:37:32,435 Speaker 1: And I went back to Howard Katz and I said, look, 540 00:37:32,835 --> 00:37:35,475 Speaker 1: I know I've been impossible. You have to understand that 541 00:37:35,475 --> 00:37:38,795 Speaker 1: from my perspective, the company has also been impossible. But 542 00:37:38,875 --> 00:37:40,715 Speaker 1: Dan and I created too good a show to let 543 00:37:40,795 --> 00:37:43,755 Speaker 1: it die. When I go here to Court TV, I'm 544 00:37:43,755 --> 00:37:46,315 Speaker 1: only going to work Monday through Thursday on this new thing. 545 00:37:46,755 --> 00:37:49,635 Speaker 1: If you will send a car to take me to 546 00:37:49,675 --> 00:37:53,515 Speaker 1: and from Bristol every Sunday and give me some token 547 00:37:53,555 --> 00:37:55,875 Speaker 1: sal give me fifty thousand dollars or something. I'll just 548 00:37:55,915 --> 00:37:59,035 Speaker 1: do the Sunday night show for you every week. You'll 549 00:37:59,075 --> 00:38:02,395 Speaker 1: never see me, I'll never see you. It's the show 550 00:38:02,395 --> 00:38:06,075 Speaker 1: that has the highest factor of management control. It's basically 551 00:38:06,195 --> 00:38:10,955 Speaker 1: coloring in by numbers, and it reruns all morning on Monday. 552 00:38:10,995 --> 00:38:12,875 Speaker 1: So forty percent of the people who see Dan and 553 00:38:12,875 --> 00:38:15,195 Speaker 1: I during the week they see this one show. That's it. 554 00:38:15,835 --> 00:38:17,435 Speaker 1: If you want some other stuff for me to do, 555 00:38:17,555 --> 00:38:20,875 Speaker 1: like radio commentaries, great, we can negotiate that. But we 556 00:38:20,915 --> 00:38:23,555 Speaker 1: should not let this die. At least let's have it 557 00:38:23,595 --> 00:38:27,835 Speaker 1: on once a week. And Howard Katz said, Okay, let 558 00:38:27,875 --> 00:38:31,075 Speaker 1: me think about this. It sounds really good. And he 559 00:38:31,115 --> 00:38:32,675 Speaker 1: got back to me the next day and he said 560 00:38:32,715 --> 00:38:34,675 Speaker 1: it was the most difficult decision he had ever made 561 00:38:34,675 --> 00:38:38,555 Speaker 1: in this business, but he just couldn't do it. It 562 00:38:38,715 --> 00:38:41,635 Speaker 1: established too much of a precedent, especially the idea that 563 00:38:41,675 --> 00:38:46,035 Speaker 1: somebody could work at ESPN and also at some other 564 00:38:46,195 --> 00:38:50,875 Speaker 1: TV operation. He put it very bluntly. If ESPN was 565 00:38:50,915 --> 00:38:53,995 Speaker 1: not the sole employer of its people, it could not 566 00:38:54,195 --> 00:38:57,475 Speaker 1: control them. By threatening to fire them, and he looked 567 00:38:57,475 --> 00:39:01,595 Speaker 1: at me and he said especially you, And in the 568 00:39:01,595 --> 00:39:04,475 Speaker 1: same sentence he said, look, we'd love to continue the relationship, 569 00:39:04,475 --> 00:39:06,195 Speaker 1: though we see lots of ways you could fit into 570 00:39:06,435 --> 00:39:09,275 Speaker 1: ESPN Classic, like once a week or once a month 571 00:39:09,355 --> 00:39:11,195 Speaker 1: or whatever, and we'd like to get in on the 572 00:39:11,195 --> 00:39:14,155 Speaker 1: bidding for these radio commentaries that you're going to do 573 00:39:14,195 --> 00:39:19,115 Speaker 1: on the side. Well, it all ended surprisingly amicably. I 574 00:39:19,195 --> 00:39:22,475 Speaker 1: decided to go to MSNBC and NBC Sports instead of 575 00:39:22,515 --> 00:39:26,155 Speaker 1: Court TV, and as I signed the contract, I called 576 00:39:26,195 --> 00:39:29,675 Speaker 1: the ESPN president, Steve Bornstein and the head of Sports Center, 577 00:39:29,755 --> 00:39:32,355 Speaker 1: John Walsh. I called them from the office of the 578 00:39:32,355 --> 00:39:35,835 Speaker 1: head of NBC Sports, Dick Eversoll, And in my diary, 579 00:39:35,875 --> 00:39:38,275 Speaker 1: I can't tell if that was June nineteenth, nineteen ninety 580 00:39:38,315 --> 00:39:40,675 Speaker 1: seven or June twentieth, nineteen ninety seven, but I made 581 00:39:40,755 --> 00:39:43,995 Speaker 1: the calls, and it was Ebsall's idea, call them now, 582 00:39:44,035 --> 00:39:48,675 Speaker 1: call them right now, it'll matter later. The funniest thing 583 00:39:48,875 --> 00:39:52,555 Speaker 1: was the following Monday, June twenty third, I was packing 584 00:39:52,595 --> 00:39:55,715 Speaker 1: up my stuff in my house in Connecticut. I am 585 00:39:55,755 --> 00:39:58,355 Speaker 1: all set and I am officially beginning my first week 586 00:39:58,475 --> 00:40:01,715 Speaker 1: not working for ESPN. And instead working for NBC. And 587 00:40:01,795 --> 00:40:06,555 Speaker 1: the phone rings and it's John Waller in Los Angeles 588 00:40:06,995 --> 00:40:10,435 Speaker 1: for something, and he has to talk to my agent immediately. 589 00:40:10,755 --> 00:40:13,355 Speaker 1: Do you know where she is right now? Howard Katz? 590 00:40:13,355 --> 00:40:15,835 Speaker 1: And I have just spoken with Bob Iger, and he 591 00:40:15,875 --> 00:40:19,595 Speaker 1: wants to present a primetime proposal to you for ABC 592 00:40:20,395 --> 00:40:24,035 Speaker 1: and until you can continue at ESPN. And I laughed, 593 00:40:24,035 --> 00:40:27,035 Speaker 1: and I said, John, I signed with NBC last week 594 00:40:27,555 --> 00:40:31,195 Speaker 1: the World Series and the news show and super Bowl stuff. 595 00:40:31,235 --> 00:40:35,115 Speaker 1: Remember I called you from Dick Ebersol's office. You remember 596 00:40:35,195 --> 00:40:38,315 Speaker 1: it was Friday or Thursday, whatever it was. We're having 597 00:40:38,315 --> 00:40:43,435 Speaker 1: the news conference today. And he is dead serious, and 598 00:40:43,475 --> 00:40:47,955 Speaker 1: he says to me, oh, oh oh, and there's a 599 00:40:47,995 --> 00:40:50,275 Speaker 1: long pause. Well, well, I still need to talk to 600 00:40:50,315 --> 00:40:54,355 Speaker 1: your agent. Well. I had known Bob Iger, who had 601 00:40:54,355 --> 00:40:57,275 Speaker 1: apparently precipitated this phone call, since I was in college 602 00:40:57,315 --> 00:40:59,315 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine. He had given me an hour 603 00:40:59,395 --> 00:41:02,515 Speaker 1: of his time just for career advice, because I had 604 00:41:02,555 --> 00:41:05,115 Speaker 1: interned at the TV station for which is first wife 605 00:41:05,115 --> 00:41:07,235 Speaker 1: had been a news producer, Channel five in New York. 606 00:41:07,395 --> 00:41:09,755 Speaker 1: I told that story, I think two weeks ago, and 607 00:41:09,835 --> 00:41:13,035 Speaker 1: Bob was wonderful to me, so I called Bob and 608 00:41:13,075 --> 00:41:16,195 Speaker 1: I explained what had happened, and he said, Steve Bornstein 609 00:41:16,275 --> 00:41:18,675 Speaker 1: only told me that you were leaving this morning. I'm 610 00:41:18,795 --> 00:41:21,755 Speaker 1: very very sorry. I knew there were contentious negotiations about 611 00:41:21,755 --> 00:41:23,475 Speaker 1: a new deal for you, but I had no clue 612 00:41:23,515 --> 00:41:25,675 Speaker 1: it was at the point where you might actually leave. 613 00:41:25,915 --> 00:41:27,915 Speaker 1: I should have known. That's my fault. That's why I 614 00:41:27,955 --> 00:41:29,755 Speaker 1: told John to make the call. He did. Trust me. 615 00:41:29,755 --> 00:41:32,195 Speaker 1: If I'd known, would have been totally different. I would 616 00:41:32,195 --> 00:41:33,955 Speaker 1: have made it right by you. You would have wanted 617 00:41:33,955 --> 00:41:36,515 Speaker 1: to stay. And if it doesn't work at NBC, you 618 00:41:36,555 --> 00:41:38,915 Speaker 1: call me directly and I'll bring you back here myself. 619 00:41:40,875 --> 00:41:44,635 Speaker 1: I mean, the ending was so unexpectedly and surprisingly pleasant 620 00:41:44,915 --> 00:41:48,355 Speaker 1: that even when my new bosses at MSNBC suddenly announced, 621 00:41:48,435 --> 00:41:50,835 Speaker 1: I think it was in newsweek that they were going 622 00:41:50,875 --> 00:41:54,275 Speaker 1: to call my program The Big Show, which was our 623 00:41:54,395 --> 00:41:57,235 Speaker 1: nickname for Sports Center at ESPN, the Big Show. But 624 00:41:57,315 --> 00:41:59,435 Speaker 1: they hadn't told anybody at ESPN that we were going 625 00:41:59,475 --> 00:42:02,595 Speaker 1: to call our MSNBC show the Big Show. It was 626 00:42:02,715 --> 00:42:05,115 Speaker 1: me who got on the phone with Howard and a 627 00:42:05,115 --> 00:42:08,355 Speaker 1: couple of other people at ESPN to apologize and to 628 00:42:08,395 --> 00:42:11,755 Speaker 1: make sure they were okay with it. So even after 629 00:42:12,075 --> 00:42:15,235 Speaker 1: my ESPN career was officially over and all chance of 630 00:42:15,235 --> 00:42:18,555 Speaker 1: my returning was dead, we tried to revive it, both 631 00:42:18,595 --> 00:42:21,675 Speaker 1: of us, Howard Katz and me in good faith. And 632 00:42:21,715 --> 00:42:23,915 Speaker 1: I don't think Bob Eiger was blowing smoke at me. 633 00:42:23,955 --> 00:42:27,235 Speaker 1: He had no reason to. And even after all that, 634 00:42:27,915 --> 00:42:31,515 Speaker 1: the parting was non nuclear. I think they sent me 635 00:42:31,555 --> 00:42:34,595 Speaker 1: a fruit basket for my first night at MSNBC on 636 00:42:34,675 --> 00:42:39,675 Speaker 1: October first, and then it all blew up. John Walsh 637 00:42:39,755 --> 00:42:44,355 Speaker 1: called the TV sports columnist at USA Today, Rudy Marsky, 638 00:42:45,235 --> 00:42:48,355 Speaker 1: and gave him my first set of ratings from MSNBC, 639 00:42:48,715 --> 00:42:51,795 Speaker 1: just to try to make me look like I couldn't 640 00:42:51,835 --> 00:42:56,875 Speaker 1: succeed without ESPN. Martski told me that direct quote, they 641 00:42:56,915 --> 00:42:59,915 Speaker 1: want to punish you publicly. Walsh has been pressuring me 642 00:42:59,995 --> 00:43:02,715 Speaker 1: to run the very poor ratings, and he said, I'm 643 00:43:02,715 --> 00:43:04,195 Speaker 1: going to finally do it. I just wanted to give 644 00:43:04,195 --> 00:43:07,395 Speaker 1: you a little war warning and maybe you have a comment. Well, 645 00:43:07,435 --> 00:43:10,155 Speaker 1: that set the tone for the next five years of warfare, 646 00:43:11,395 --> 00:43:14,835 Speaker 1: and it was nuclear pretty quickly. But this impression that 647 00:43:15,075 --> 00:43:17,875 Speaker 1: ESPN chose to dismiss me, or not renew me, or 648 00:43:17,915 --> 00:43:21,515 Speaker 1: not bring me back, its nonsense. Howard did not not 649 00:43:21,795 --> 00:43:24,075 Speaker 1: renew me. Instead, he offered to double my salary if 650 00:43:24,115 --> 00:43:28,315 Speaker 1: I stayed. If I had signed with NBC, Iiger was 651 00:43:28,355 --> 00:43:30,355 Speaker 1: still trying to get me to back out after I 652 00:43:30,395 --> 00:43:33,035 Speaker 1: had signed with NBC and stay at ESPN and ABC. 653 00:43:34,875 --> 00:43:37,835 Speaker 1: The irony of this minor detail from about nineteen ninety 654 00:43:37,875 --> 00:43:41,755 Speaker 1: seven printed in twenty eleven, I think is that I 655 00:43:41,795 --> 00:43:45,155 Speaker 1: had already returned to ESPN by the time it was printed. 656 00:43:45,595 --> 00:43:47,795 Speaker 1: I took an hour out of my day at MSNBC 657 00:43:47,955 --> 00:43:50,275 Speaker 1: to go on with Dan Patrick on his ESPN radio 658 00:43:50,275 --> 00:43:52,395 Speaker 1: show from two thousand and five through two thousand and seven. 659 00:43:53,555 --> 00:43:56,035 Speaker 1: A year after that book came out with that quote 660 00:43:56,035 --> 00:43:58,835 Speaker 1: in it, twenty twelve, I was talking to the executives 661 00:43:58,875 --> 00:44:01,915 Speaker 1: at ESPN about going back full time, and a year 662 00:44:02,035 --> 00:44:05,875 Speaker 1: later I did to launch a nightly show on esp two, 663 00:44:05,995 --> 00:44:08,395 Speaker 1: and that ended when they laid off like one hundred 664 00:44:08,475 --> 00:44:11,355 Speaker 1: million dollars worth of talent salaries in twenty fifteen. But 665 00:44:11,395 --> 00:44:14,955 Speaker 1: then I went back again in twenty eighteen, and I 666 00:44:14,995 --> 00:44:17,675 Speaker 1: did Sports Center, and I did baseball games on radio 667 00:44:17,755 --> 00:44:20,675 Speaker 1: and on TV, and I did reports, and I did commentaries. 668 00:44:20,795 --> 00:44:22,755 Speaker 1: I did the not top ten plays of the week, 669 00:44:22,795 --> 00:44:25,715 Speaker 1: and on and on and on, and finally we parted 670 00:44:25,755 --> 00:44:28,315 Speaker 1: happily in the late summer of twenty twenty so I 671 00:44:28,355 --> 00:44:31,115 Speaker 1: could return to political coverage and I knew they wouldn't 672 00:44:31,115 --> 00:44:33,355 Speaker 1: want that, and I didn't want to put it on ESPN, 673 00:44:34,355 --> 00:44:38,075 Speaker 1: and the unlikely result of that my parting happily in 674 00:44:38,235 --> 00:44:42,515 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. On the books at Disney, I am listed 675 00:44:42,635 --> 00:44:51,315 Speaker 1: as a Disney and ESPN retiree. I get benefits I 676 00:44:51,435 --> 00:44:55,835 Speaker 1: retired from ESPN. I mean, they didn't give me a 677 00:44:55,875 --> 00:44:59,275 Speaker 1: gold watch or anything, but I'm technically a retiree. And 678 00:44:59,315 --> 00:45:01,915 Speaker 1: if you had predicted that in nineteen ninety seven or 679 00:45:01,955 --> 00:45:05,915 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, well you know the cliche. I bring all 680 00:45:05,955 --> 00:45:08,355 Speaker 1: this up again because I don't know how often I 681 00:45:08,395 --> 00:45:11,195 Speaker 1: have thought of that father and his two boys, and 682 00:45:11,315 --> 00:45:14,035 Speaker 1: the one who started speaking, but only in my catch phrases. 683 00:45:14,755 --> 00:45:19,435 Speaker 1: I would guess it's at least once a month. Those 684 00:45:19,475 --> 00:45:21,555 Speaker 1: boys would have to be in their thirties by now 685 00:45:22,035 --> 00:45:26,555 Speaker 1: or nearly, and I wonder often of what has become 686 00:45:26,595 --> 00:45:43,875 Speaker 1: of them, and I sure hope they are well. I've 687 00:45:43,875 --> 00:45:45,555 Speaker 1: done all the damage I can do here. Thank you 688 00:45:45,595 --> 00:45:47,595 Speaker 1: for listening. Countdown has come to you from the Vince 689 00:45:47,635 --> 00:45:51,595 Speaker 1: Scully Studios at the Olderman Broadcasting Empire in New York. 690 00:45:52,435 --> 00:45:56,675 Speaker 1: Countdown musical directors Brian Ray and John Phillip Shanelle arranged, produced, 691 00:45:56,675 --> 00:45:59,595 Speaker 1: and performed most of our music. 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Our announcer 699 00:46:26,835 --> 00:46:29,235 Speaker 1: today was my friend Jonathan Banks from Breaking Bad and 700 00:46:29,275 --> 00:46:33,115 Speaker 1: Better Call Saul, and everything else was pretty much my fault. 701 00:46:33,755 --> 00:46:36,315 Speaker 1: So that's countdown for this the one thousand and eightieth 702 00:46:36,395 --> 00:46:39,515 Speaker 1: day since dementia Jay Trump's first attempted coup against the 703 00:46:39,555 --> 00:46:43,075 Speaker 1: democratically elected government of the United States. Use the Insurrection 704 00:46:43,155 --> 00:46:46,795 Speaker 1: Act against him and them and the fourteenth Amendment and 705 00:46:46,915 --> 00:46:51,435 Speaker 1: convict him while we still can. The next scheduled countdown 706 00:46:51,475 --> 00:46:53,875 Speaker 1: is tomorrow boltons. As the news warrants still then, I'm 707 00:46:53,915 --> 00:46:57,435 Speaker 1: Keith Olberman. Good morning, good afternoon, goodnight, and good luck. 708 00:47:07,635 --> 00:47:11,595 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For 709 00:47:11,755 --> 00:47:16,835 Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 710 00:47:16,915 --> 00:47:18,875 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.