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Speaker 1: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 2: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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Speaker 1: Railvalry, No, no, sibling, you don't do that with your mouth. Revelry.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 2: Emails, el what you got with them?

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Speaker 1: Emails? It just like came up. I forgot about that.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, got a little emails jingle.

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Speaker 2: It's like this fifties little vibe email. What you got?

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Speaker 1: Then it's like and then it's like like the most

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Speaker 2: Well if you if you didn't catch on, this is

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Speaker 2: the email episode. We'll read emails and we read emails

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Speaker 2: and try not to cry. Basically that is that is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like a game at this point. Who's

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So we did. We did one in this in

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Speaker 2: this season, and I remained stoic. I cried, you cry

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Speaker 2: going to go first. Let's see how we do go first,

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Speaker 2: and hopefully I get one that doesn't make me go nutty.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Kate, Oliver and guess Dan Butner. Oh, I like this.

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Speaker 1: I just got done listening to the episode, and I

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Speaker 2: It's like you, I know, I love it, but I quit.

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Speaker 1: However, it did bring shame, as Kate mentioned, isolating myself

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Speaker 1: away from my family and not doing more things. I love.

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Speaker 1: Respecting you too so much, especially Kate, who I would

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Speaker 1: Hopefully this tidbit is a stepping stone to stopping forever

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Speaker 1: this time. Yes, especially with Dan adding how people in

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Speaker 1: I'm so grateful to hear that, as I have been

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Speaker 1: much against this podcast and being your true best selves.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, bo, Liz, so so happy. That's great. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Loss just sucks, like it just sucks that we have

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Speaker 2: Hello, Oliver and Kate. I'm so happy the new season

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Speaker 2: have conversations, they just check in. Sibling relationships are fascinating

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Speaker 2: and I'm so glad you two decided to start this

435
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: podcast years ago. Love it, love it, love it. I'm

436
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: the one with the anxiety and Aaron is the one

437
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: who looks at everything reasonably haha. On a side note,

438
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: I always enjoyed the movies and television shows that you

439
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: have both been a part of and have followed your careers.

440
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: I've always been a huge fan of your mom my brother,

441
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: and I must have watched Seems Like Old Times a

442
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: million times on HBO when we were young. That in

443
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 2: Protocol where Hbo is stateful Stack in the eight much

444
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: love to you both, Thanks for the last two.

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Speaker 1: Ali Yoho Holly Yo love her name Yo nos.

446
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Speaker 2: Life for me.

447
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: Another interesting story. But I also just feel like, I

448
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I always feel so sad when siblings don't connect.

449
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: I know, at least they do Chickens. It feels like

450
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: they're doing all that they can. And it's like you said,

451
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: they weren't. They didn't choose each other. You're born into

452
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 2: this and sometimes yeah, it just doesn't work out, Like, eh,

453
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: we're different. I respect you. I hope everything's good and

454
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: we'll do a little check in, but we're just don't buy.

455
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 2: We don't connect. And by the way, it seems like

456
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: Old Times is probably it's definitely top three favorite of

457
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: mom's movies. And for me, yeah, and Protocol amazing seems

458
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: like Old Times with Charles Roden and Chevy Chase. It's

459
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: just so fucking good and so funny, so good. I

460
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: love it so much, I know.

461
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: And it's the chicken paprika, chicken pepperoni, chicken pepperoni, chicken pepperoni.

462
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: It's like Hungarian, the Hungarian Juny.

463
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Speaker 2: I think Mom and Grandma used to make chicken paprika

464
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: all the time.

465
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: Actually all the time. Are you getting paprika? A Grandma

466
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: put paprika in everything.

467
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's made like paprika ice cream, and like.

468
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 1: She's like, this is a paprika blints. I had blintzes today.

469
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: I had Jewish delly and.

470
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: I have blints. So good jelly huh with jelly?

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00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so good. Holly, Thank you for sharing.

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00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 2: Thank you, Holly, Yoho. Holly is a priate life.

473
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: For me, Hi, Kate, and Oliver. How wild is it

474
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: that I can just send you all an email and

475
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: hope you read it? Anyway? My love for my siblings

476
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: oozes out of me, and I'm always looking for another

477
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: rooftop to shout it from Sibling Revelry happens to be

478
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: my favorite podcast and therefore the most obvious rooftop for shouting.

479
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: Here it goes. I am the oldest of four siblings,

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00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: three girls, and the last is the baby boy of

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00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: the family. We are obsessed with each other. We talk

482
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: on the phone at least ten times a day. I

483
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: mean to the point where our significant others are sometimes

484
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: nauseated by it. We're each other's best friends, lifelines, soulmates.

485
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: It's a bond that will always be unmatched, because who

486
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: else can say that they witnessed every melodramatic meltdown at

487
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: every awkward childhood phase of your life and yet still

488
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: love you unconditional. Only a sibling. I have always told

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Speaker 1: them anything, anytime, anywhere.

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00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 1: We mostly grew up in Annapolis, Maryland, before our parents

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00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: split up. In geographically party ways as well, we've since

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00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: started our own careers and families. It is not lost

494
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: on me what a deep privilege it is to witness

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00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: my baby's siblings grow and thrive. In fact, it is

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Speaker 1: one of only a couple of things that I am

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Speaker 1: truly proud of. I am twenty eight and living in

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Speaker 1: West Virginia now with my husband and seven month old son.

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00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: My sisters are twenty six and twenty three, and my

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Speaker 1: brother turning twenty one in June. We are at such

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00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: a fun time in our adult lives, all in our

502
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: twenties figuring out life together.

503
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: Wow. Fun, that's cool.

504
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm writing in because recently my bond with my sibling

505
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: became even more special when my twenty three year old

506
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: sister and I found out that we were pregnant three

507
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: months apart. Oh my god, I gave birth to September

508
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and watching my siblings love on my

509
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: own baby is like watching multiple hearts beat out of

510
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: my chest the best. In December, my twenty three year

511
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: old sister at this time of twenty two, also gave

512
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Speaker 1: birth to a beautiful baby boy. On Christmas Eve twenty

513
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Speaker 1: twenty two, following the birth of her son named Hudson,

514
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: my sister hemorrhaged and underwent multiple surgeries and a several

515
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: day stay in the ICU, where she fought for her life.

516
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Speaker 1: We were anxiously so many we don't even talk about

517
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: many women you know we've lost to having babies recently.

518
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: It's like gotten up. We were anxiously awaiting the news

519
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: of Hudson's birth. When we got the news of her

520
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: condition without hesitation. It's always scares me. Without hesitation. I

521
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: loaded up the car, my three month old son, Lane,

522
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: and my husband and raised to the hospital in a panic,

523
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: audibly praying to God he wouldn't take me anyway.

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Speaker 2: She survived, proud, Okay, she made it.

525
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: She made it. I know she made it. So my

526
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: twenty six year old sister got on the first flight

527
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: home from Florida. My brother slept in the hospital for days.

528
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: What a family. I visited around the clock over the

529
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Speaker 1: period of a week, nursing my own son in between visits.

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Speaker 1: My sister survived, so she has forever changed from that experience,

531
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: as are week. As I combed my sister's hair Christmas

532
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: warning in the hospital, I showed her photos of her

533
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: beautiful boy just born, and she hadn't even got to hold.

534
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: All I could think about is how lucky we are

535
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: to have each other, especially in tragic circumstances. She's now

536
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: the most graceful and loving mother, and despite her less

537
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: than ideal start to motherhood, has never once complained. She's

538
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: my baby sister. I'm in awe of her and learning

539
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: from her every day. My husband and I are now

540
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: moving our own little family back to Maryland, where we

541
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: have made the clear choice to raise both cousins as brothers.

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00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: More families need to be like this. It's like us

543
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: with the kids. People don't realize how important this the

544
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: unit is to you know, try to strive for that,

545
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: but you can tell that there's so much love here.

546
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: I mean, she's like gosh, I.

547
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: Mean she really is oozing yeah love Yeah, Okay, let's see.

548
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: I love this email Louie family. The four of us

549
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: siblings will all live in two counties on the eastern

550
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: shore of Maryland. Two cousins will now grow up to

551
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: be just as close as the four of us are. Yay,

552
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: my sister's near death experience rattled us all to our core,

553
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: and if we didn't love each other before, we are

554
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: smothering each other now. I love our relationship and I really,

555
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: really really love them. There's nothing I wouldn't do for them, anything, anytime, anywhere.

556
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for your podcast an opportunity to share special

557
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: stories about siblings. It is an uplifting, heartwarming listening experience

558
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: that I'm grateful for. Lots of love to you and

559
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: your gorgeous family. Sincerely, Megan the oldest and proudest. Oh God,

560
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: I love Megan.

561
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: Thank God that I had a happy ending.

562
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Megan, you made me emotional because because

563
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, like I think, sometimes the hardest, the hardest

564
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: thing about love, like real deep unconditional love is low

565
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: is the is the idea of lost, is that you

566
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: could lose them, and how hard that, how bad that

567
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: would hurt, you know, and so sometimes people choose not

568
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: to give so much love and fear of it being

569
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: taken away. When you have four siblings that all have

570
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: that ability to like be so open hearted and like

571
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: loving and supportive, that like everyone drops every everything at

572
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: the drop of the hat. Something's happening with a sibling.

573
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: It's like no, no, no, there's no like I don't

574
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: show up right, like, no matter what, You're there and

575
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: and and that support, that love. That is what I think, honestly,

576
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: And it sounds crazy, but I think this world needs

577
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 1: more than anything. I mean, maybe it's not crazy, Like

578
00:33:54,080 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: we our support systems at home is it Will is everything.

579
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: It's everything.

580
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: No, it's true. It is true, you know, and everyone

581
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: you know has their different experiences with that home. As

582
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: far as Megan goes, it's like you said, you can

583
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: feel the love through the words, you know, you really can.

584
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: It's pretty phenomenal how tight they all are. And I

585
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: can't imagine being the husband or the wife of the siblings.

586
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: Were like, oh my god, here they go again, like

587
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 2: these four siblings, Like would you guys please get off

588
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: the phone, please? You have another life over here.

589
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: They're also in their twenties.

590
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: No, I know, they're so young. It's like it's so cool.

591
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: It seems awesome. You know.

592
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: I feel like if we had FaceTime, yeah, that we

593
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: would have talked all the time.

594
00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: Yes, oh for sure. Yeah that's an interesting point. Like

595
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: FaceTime obviously has brought everyone closer, but as far as

596
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: pertaining siblings, you know you're still connected, I mean all

597
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: the time.

598
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

599
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 2: Anyway, that was awesome. All of them were great. Megan's

600
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: was amazing.

601
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: What Ronnie likes. Ronnie looks at me and she's like,

602
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: are those happy tears?

603
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? The other day was like, Dad, if you ever cried?

604
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you mean? Like, yeah, I cry

605
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 2: all the time. And she's like, I've never seen you cry.

606
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, you must have seen me cry. I cry

607
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: like Laker games. Well, I'm worried that I don't cry

608
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: enough in front of my kids. Like I'm gonna know

609
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: you cry too much. That's what I tried to tell her,

610
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: But she's telling me I'm gonna wake for he's not

611
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: paying attention. I'm waking her up every morning just sobbing, like,

612
00:35:59,400 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: oh my.

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00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: God, oh this is so fun. Ollie. We have to

614
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: do our coffee table book. We have to take some

615
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: of our favorite letters and do get them to take

616
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: pictures family picture. I love that, and so we can

617
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: we can coffee table book.

618
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: But I've I've had an idea for coffee table book.

619
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 2: Then what will be done? But I've ever told you

620
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 2: about it. It's it's the depiction through artists renderings through

621
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: like famous artist, good artists, current modern day artists of

622
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: all the president's dis so like you have George Washington

623
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: all the way up through Joe Biden, and it's like,

624
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: you know.

625
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: Of all the things that you could have said that

626
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: was so far from what I would.

627
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: Have ever, But wouldn't you buy that? It's like the

628
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: interpretation of their of their penises through the artist's mind,

629
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: given sort of who they were in history. You know

630
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like what would George Washington's dick look like?

631
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: You know, I mean probably like a good, like a

632
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: like a like.

633
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: Beautiful and for sure like a mushroom big mushroom head

634
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 2: because of his hair. But it sounds crazy, but imagine

635
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: you get great artists like it's beautiful work and it's

636
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 2: their interpretation based on history, based on their personality through history.

637
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: What your dicks would look like would you not buy

638
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: that for Christmas?

639
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: Give it? But I would buy that as an art piece.

640
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: That's what I mean.

641
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. If like Francesco Clemente did like a water

642
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: color like Abraham Lincoln's penis.

643
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, I would buy exactly exactly. Yeah, it's it's

644
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: a it's a huge idea.

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00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: Jeff Coon's does like a like a a huge like

646
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: like uh sculpture. Yeah, hell yeah, it's just so crazy.

647
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 2: That's good. It's a great idea. Good perfect sould.

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00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: Listen everybody, We love love when you send an emails,

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Speaker 1: dot com.

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Speaker 2: And uh and what what what else were we supposed

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Speaker 2: to say?

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Speaker 1: Well, don't forget to like our podcast and give it

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Speaker 1: a great, awesome review and.

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Speaker 2: Follow this, follow something, hit the like button, peace look

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Speaker 2: at YouTuber.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love you guys.

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Speaker 2: Sibling Revelry is executive produced by A Hudson and Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: Producer is Alison.

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Speaker 2: President, editor is Josh Wendish.

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Speaker 1: Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.

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Speaker 2: If you want to show us some love, rate the

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