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Speaker 1: It's a podcast called twenty five Wists stuck in fun

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Speaker 1: Bow and they are were a whizz. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: too bad, But what did you expect?

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Speaker 2: It's a podcast called twenty five Whist twenty wine. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the show. We're gonna do an hour with

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Speaker 2: Rich Eisen Rich a legend if you watch Sports Center

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Speaker 2: back when Sports Center was actually watched. I don't watch

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Speaker 2: Sports Center anymore.

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Speaker 1: Do you no? But his day is absolutely yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean definitely the way you could even get scores, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and it would come on all the time. I guess

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Speaker 2: now I watch TikTok or Instagram, yeah, or I just

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Speaker 2: search for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Are there any famous anchors even now? Now?

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Speaker 2: Obviously the medium has changed, right, We're not saying they're

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Speaker 2: worse today they were than they were then.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know any of the sports guys. No.

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Speaker 3: I feel like every time I do watch it, it's

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Speaker 3: somebody different, so I can't like relate or know any.

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Speaker 2: Rich wildly famous for Sports Center back in the day

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Speaker 2: NFL network. He has his own The Rich eisen Show now,

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Speaker 2: which is on the Roku channel from twelve to three

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Speaker 2: Eastern every weekday.

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Speaker 1: And I've spoken to Rich on the phone.

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Speaker 2: He called before I filled in for him the last time,

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Speaker 2: and he was like, hey, I always want you to

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Speaker 2: know and I was like, this is crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Rich Eisen.

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Speaker 2: We interviewed him on this show but on zoom from

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Speaker 2: his studio, and I was like, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: That's Rich Eisen. But I never met him in person.

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Speaker 1: And I think I mentioned this.

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Speaker 2: My wife was like, oh, you're going to see Rich

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Speaker 2: Eisen again. I was like, I never met him. She

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Speaker 2: was like, can you go. I was like yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I went because he wasn't there, you know, filled in,

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Speaker 2: But I loved him. Rich is a legend in the

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Speaker 2: sports broadcasting world ESPN from back in Sports Center days,

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Speaker 2: NFL Network since two thousand and three, multiple movies, has

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Speaker 2: done at all. You can follow him on Twitter and

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Speaker 2: Instagram at Rich Eisen and Rich Eisen Show.

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Speaker 1: And I think we just get to it.

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Speaker 2: Anything I'm missing here.

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Speaker 1: No, this is awesome, Jack. Was it cool for you?

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Speaker 1: It was? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, he's a pinnacle for me personally of

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Speaker 3: like a sports broadcasting guy that I grew up watching.

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Speaker 3: He talks about a little bit going to bed and

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Speaker 3: waking up and seeing him every day.

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Speaker 1: That was me on the West coast, falling asleep every day,

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Speaker 1: then waking up with the rich, then waking up with

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Speaker 1: the rich both. Let's say, all right, here he is,

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Speaker 1: this is Rich eisen Rich. Thanks for coming over. You

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Speaker 1: got it, Bobby.

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Speaker 2: I was watching on I guess Instagram all all the

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Speaker 2: things you were doing the Hall of Fame last couple

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Speaker 2: of nights.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, you got to be exhausted.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm I'm I'm invigorated, brother, like this is.

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Speaker 2: But do you go to work tomorrow? Will you do

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Speaker 2: the show tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the show tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, flying back to La tonight as soon as I'm

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Speaker 4: done with you got a flight?

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Speaker 2: Did you at least fly private from Canton to here?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: Well, yes, private is known as business select.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know so, but that was Cleveland to hear

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Speaker 4: Going to the Hall of Fame is something I've done

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Speaker 4: almost as much as anything else that I've done with

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Speaker 4: NFL Network. And it's the only Hall of Fame where

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Speaker 4: it's always neat to celebrate the pass as you're about

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Speaker 1: Now. I think I would like Devin Hester. What's that

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I've known of him for quite

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Speaker 4: he's considered a Devon a son for a long time.

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Speaker 4: The thing that makes him particularly special is that. Listen,

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Speaker 4: Boy, I'd love to see, you know, him win a

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean we worked together so and that was

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Speaker 4: So anybody who's worked with him or was a teammate

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Speaker 4: He's going to be out there on on his own,

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Speaker 4: and I was totally blown away by that. He was awesome.

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Speaker 4: He was always thinking about other people. I had a

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Speaker 2: And so we went from working together every day for

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Speaker 2: he would just reach out randomly, and I would be

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Speaker 4: can and get my material out there. But it kind

440
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 4: of just was funny because she knew when she said

441
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 4: that that I could hear that, and I almost turned

442
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 4: around and told him, like, you know, I can, I

443
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 4: can hear you ask who I am? You know clearly

444
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 4: enough for your husband to stop the conversation with you

445
00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 4: on the spot to stop me take a photograph boy,

446
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 4: and have me walk away, but not out of like

447
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 4: or next time you don't know who your husband's stopping

448
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 4: and take a selfie with, can you wait wait till

449
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 4: you're that person's out of earshot before asking who that

450
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 4: person is?

451
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: You know? But hey, it's all good.

452
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 4: It's kind of you to, you know, ask that question,

453
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 4: and it's it's all good man. And I don't mind

454
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 4: stopping talking to people, you know.

455
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: It. It doesn't phaze me at all. It's great.

456
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: The weird one for me is if someone comes up

457
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 2: and they say hey, and I feel like people at

458
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: times aren't knowing what they're saying.

459
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 1: They're just trying to fill silent. Can I guess what

460
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: it is? I'm sure you can. YEA. Where are you from?

461
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: Where do I know you? That happens a lot too,

462
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: like like it's now my I like what am I good? Personal? Google?

463
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,880
Speaker 1: Am I like your your AI assistant here?

464
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: That's not even the most cutting though that if that happens,

465
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 2: that's a nice one, okay, the one that cuts me

466
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 2: the most. I'll come up and go, hey, do you

467
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: mind if I get a picture? And I'm like, no, not

468
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: at all. They go, I don't even know who you

469
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: are is a huge fan or my aunt's. And I

470
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 2: think to myself, you don't have to say you.

471
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: Don't know who I am.

472
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: You can just say can I take a picture? And

473
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 2: then do then disperse with the picture however you'd like.

474
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 2: But they'll come up and go, hey, do you mind

475
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 2: if I get a picture?

476
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm of course not. Why would I care?

477
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: To be honest, I don't know who you are? But

478
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 2: you know my aunt.

479
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:14,719
Speaker 1: Will love this.

480
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, there's no I didn't feel like

481
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: there was a need to say you.

482
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: Didn't know who I was. I have no idea who

483
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, right.

484
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 4: My favorite moment was this happened with Stuart once Stuart Scott,

485
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 4: where somebody came up and these were the old days

486
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 4: where there were no camera phones. Okay, like the actual

487
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 4: funk an actual real camera.

488
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm standing here with him.

489
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Speaker 4: He says, would you Somebody went up to Stewart and

490
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 4: said would you mind taking a picture? He goes, absolutely not,

491
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 4: and they handed him the camera to take a picture

492
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 4: of me with that person. And it was like, Stuart

493
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 4: thought I had put this person up to that, but

494
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: it was not at all.

495
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Speaker 1: And it was awesome.

496
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Speaker 4: That to the point where I would then in future

497
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 4: times ask people to do that to work, and then

498
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 4: he would ask people to do that to me like

499
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 4: so anytime, which is a problem because now we're being

500
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 4: skeptical of people asking what you mind if you took.

501
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: A picture, You've planted the seed of doubt at all times. Oh,

502
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: but it was great.

503
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: He handed the camera to Stewart and Stewart's like, oh, okay,

504
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 4: took the picture.

505
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was awesome.

506
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: Was that the All Star Game this year? Another one

507
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 2: is someone had recognized me from something and I was like,

508
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 2: take a picture of sure love, let's take a picture

509
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,239
Speaker 2: someone else. Camp I goes, hey, can I get one?

510
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, take one? Who are you again?

511
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: I just saw them taking a picture with you.

512
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: Got that?

513
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 4: And again, yeah, I'm like, here, I should have you

514
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 4: know what you and I should have folded up in

515
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 4: our wallets.

516
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,479
Speaker 1: If you still have, you're way more famous than I am.

517
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: Like we should we should have like our resumes folded up,

518
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 4: Like here you go. I just put a code unfolded

519
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 4: and say, this is my resume, this is who I am.

520
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 2: One of those menus shot with COVID you put, you know,

521
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: you do the menu on your phone. I just keep

522
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: that on my pants in my back pocket.

523
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 4: We should have a QR code. Have them shoot the

524
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 4: QR code to find out who we are.

525
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: Here it is. They got a blue check mark and everything.

526
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: I like it.

527
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 4: Here's my QR code. You know, use my code name

528
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: of Rich. You'll get twenty dollars off your first purchase.

529
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 2: Whatever it is when you're famous and living in Connecticut.

530
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: Because I mean, that era for me was just in

531
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: music and sports in general. That era for me was

532
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: when I probably grew the most as a human being.

533
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: So all of you guys were wildly famous to me

534
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: because I watched every day, every night Sports Center ESPN.

535
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: But I would I have friends now that we're super famous.

536
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: In the nineties and early two thousands, in music, and

537
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 2: they would be touring all the time, and they would

538
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: not know how famous they were because there wasn't social media,

539
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: and so they would just be traveling until it was over,

540
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 2: or they could settle, or they would be in LA

541
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: or New York.

542
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: They really wouldn't know. Was it like that? Then?

543
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, let me tell you something, Bobby, So I

544
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 4: did the mostly for my seven year Sports Center career.

545
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 4: I did mostly the two am Eastern Times Sports Center

546
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 4: that would be eleven o'clock Pacific and would be re

547
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 4: aired for hours the next morning throughout the next morning.

548
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 4: Like that would never happen now, right, Like they would

549
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 4: never air a show that's dated by hours, like they'll

550
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 4: be live.

551
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: That's the way it works now.

552
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: But back in that day, and then they moved up

553
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 4: the time slot from two am to one am. The

554
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 4: problem with that was is that the number of West

555
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 4: Coast events that weren't over by that time, we had

556
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 4: to rebasically redo the show a second time at two

557
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 4: am Eastern to update, and if they weren't somehow over

558
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 4: by the end of that show, we'd have to stay

559
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 4: later until the show until the game ended to put

560
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 4: it into the show of record that would get reaired

561
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 4: throughout the next day. So I'm living in central Connecticut

562
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 4: and coming to work at like five o'clock at night,

563
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 4: doing a show that aired at one am and then

564
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 4: two am, and then getting home at four am, and

565
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 4: then trying to get off the high of being on

566
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 4: live TV in time to go to sleep, and then

567
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 4: I would sleep throughout the most exposure I've had on

568
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 4: cable television in my entire career, from five am it

569
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 4: would start Eastern Time, all the way to one in

570
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 4: the afternoon. I still get people today, and I'm obviously

571
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 4: it blows me away when people come up to me with,

572
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 4: you know, with their kids next to them, saying that

573
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 4: I used to they used to watch me and Stuart

574
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: Scott mostly before they got on the school bus in

575
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: the morning because I was on at seven am, eight

576
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 4: am or six am non stop. So I would be

577
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: sleeping when I got the most exposure of my career,

578
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 4: and then I would wake up, I'd have lunch. I

579
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 4: don't know what the hell I was doing with my

580
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 4: life then, and then going to work and doing it again,

581
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 4: and I would have no idea who's watching it.

582
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: Zero.

583
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 4: It was as if I was living on another I

584
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 4: was living on planet Bristol, no clue. And then I

585
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 4: would go to New York City and try and have

586
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 4: a social life, you know, whenever I had a day off.

587
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 4: It was also tough in that regard to I'd meet,

588
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: you know, somebody and immediately say to them, you know, hey,

589
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 4: do you want to have dinner sometime? And like two tuesdays,

590
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 4: you know, try try that, you know, you know, come

591
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 4: online for size, like, hey, what are you doing two

592
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 4: tuesdays from now?

593
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: What a weirdo? Right?

594
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 4: But that's you know, that's when my next day off

595
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: was f me. So like that that was my my

596
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 4: life in terms of not knowing who's listening, not knowing

597
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 4: who's out there, unable to get myself in some sort

598
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 4: of social mix, get some sort of thing going that

599
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 4: I could have a social life outside of work. I'm

600
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 4: not complaining, you know, but that was you asked me

601
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 4: what my life was like?

602
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: What did you tell though, for the first time that

603
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: it had had blown up?

604
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. It really wasn't a moment it was

605
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: like TRL.

606
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: It might have It might have been like it an

607
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 4: Espi's you know, sp awards. When I finally they put

608
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 4: Stuart and I up you know, we replaced Dan Patrick

609
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 4: and Keith Oberman as the guys who did the pre

610
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 4: award pre sp Awards show from the balcony of Radio

611
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 4: City Music Hall. Dan and Keith always said that they

612
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: they were like the old man muppets Stadler and Waldorf

613
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 4: sitting up there in the balcony. And then Stuart and

614
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: I did it for a couple of years, and then

615
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 4: getting out and about and then you know, meeting some

616
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: celebrities who knew who we were like that, that was

617
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 4: kind of blowing me away. I just assumed I had

618
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 4: no idea who was watching at all. And now I

619
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 4: hear I am, you know, in twenty twenty four running

620
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 4: into people who now have children saying that when they

621
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 4: were kids, I would be the ones to either put

622
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: them to sleep if they were you know and teenage

623
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: years on the West Coast, or kids going to school

624
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 4: waking them up like that's that was my life in sports.

625
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: What became more romantic too as you got more involved,

626
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: and what became less meaning I still love the Cubs,

627
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: but I went we worked up with the Cardinals. Yeah,

628
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: and I didn't hate the Cardinals. Where me before I

629
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: got or music right, like I can also see kind

630
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: of the gross things about music, but I can also

631
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: see now when somebody's really good, like it's even that

632
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: much cooler to me, Like what wasn't as cool about

633
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: sports and what became even cooler.

634
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,719
Speaker 4: I'll be honest with the Bobby, I'm just not jaded

635
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: the fact that you know, again, like you were there

636
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 4: working with my guys at the show, right, you worked

637
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 4: with the team there. Sometimes we're sitting there hour before

638
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 4: a show just talking about any old stupid shit, you know,

639
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 4: and like talking about this movie, that thing, this thing,

640
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 4: and then we're like, you know what, let's do a

641
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 4: segment about that movie or this thing or in relation

642
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 4: to whatever. And then you know, a couple times I'll

643
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,959
Speaker 4: just sit around and I'll say to everybody, like, can

644
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: you believe this is what we do? Honestly, Like, I'm

645
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: not jaded about it. You know, there's things about the

646
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: sports business that you know will make you sick or

647
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: your stomach or you know this about somebody or know

648
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 4: that about somebody. But that's just anything with any business.

649
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: But uh, truly, it's the toy department of life being

650
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 4: able to talk sports, and I just, you know, I

651
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 4: hope that's the way it will always be.

652
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: Do you ever want to not fly too close to

653
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: the sun with your favorite teams?

654
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: Meaning? What what do you mean?

655
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: My example now is I have purposefully not pursued a

656
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: relationship with John caliparid Arkansas. I am diehard razorback fan

657
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: in every way. I'm afraid if I don't like somebody,

658
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: it's going to affect how hard I root for that team. Yeah,

659
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: so everyone says, by all accounts, he's awesome. I don't

660
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: want to not like any part of that because then

661
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: it takes away like what I love to do most,

662
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: which is root for Arkansas sports.

663
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: Well, let's put it this way, Bobby, you should reach out.

664
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: You'll be good.

665
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: But I'm asked he's gonna be fine, but would like

666
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: to and like.

667
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 4: Listen, uh, you know, in terms of flying too close

668
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: like this, this this particular year with the Jets, is

669
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 4: I'm backing off for sure, because at this point in time,

670
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: I'm slated to call a Week five game with them

671
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 4: in London. And the last thing I want to do

672
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 4: is that anybody think that I'm being biased against the

673
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 4: Vikings who they're playing against at all. And and and

674
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: but if anybody who knows me for real, and I'm

675
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 4: I'm not shitting you here at all. If they know

676
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 4: me for real that I if I'm calling a game,

677
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 4: I would not care who wins at all. I just

678
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: want it to be a close game.

679
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: But if you don't, and I'm not saying any of

680
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: the coaches, but over your history of being a Jets fan,

681
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: if you don't like, if you really don't.

682
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: Like, you're still ruin the rooting interest.

683
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 4: So yeah, I guess if you keep your distance, that

684
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 4: makes complete sense that you don't want it ruined, you know,

685
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 4: in that regard. But after a while also, you know, listen,

686
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 4: the only teams, truly, the only teams that affect my

687
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 4: emotional output. And this is for real where I will

688
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: just say why am I happier today?

689
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, they won? Or why am I less

690
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: happy today? Oh? They lost?

691
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 4: And I should be a better human being, you know,

692
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: to myself and everyone around me. Are are the Michigan

693
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: Wolverine football team and the New York Yankees.

694
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the list. If the Jets.

695
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 4: Lose, you know, it'll be like, well that's a bummer,

696
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 4: but you know, okay, but those are truly the only

697
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 4: two teams that affect my emotions?

698
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: Did you ever meet Connor Stallion's I did not.

699
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 4: I did not mean you like, Oh no, I just

700
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 4: but but man, he gave me some great seats ones.

701
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 1: Have. You don't want to meet him? Would I want

702
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: to meet him?

703
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: I would want to meet him if you why if

704
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: he was doing he had a manifesto where nobody got

705
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: hurt or died or anything.

706
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: I understand that for but he was so he'd be

707
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: my hero. He was so piss poor at it that

708
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 4: you know they've that's true. You know if I met him,

709
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 4: i'd say, why were you? That's sloppy, man, I don't know.

710
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 4: Just let me just say this to you. Okay, you're

711
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 4: referring to the guy who gave out tickets to people

712
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 4: so they could sit in a geographically advantageous spots to

713
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: record the opposition sidelines of teams that Michigan was going

714
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: to play against the rules of NCAA scouting.

715
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: So I'll just repeat again, I'm sorry.

716
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 2: If my hero, though, if I were you, I would

717
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: love the guy. No, I'm sure he did it right

718
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 2: for a long time.

719
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 4: No, but no, no, no, no, because I don't think

720
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 4: he did it right.

721
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Let me ask you this question.

722
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 4: How many times have you been on vacation with your

723
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 4: lovely wife or anybody else and you hand them somebody

724
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 4: of phone saying would you mind taking a picture?

725
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: Have you done that before? Okay?

726
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: How many times do you get the phone back and

727
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 4: the photograph is more of the sky than of you?

728
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: It's terrible. Oka.

729
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: So Connor Stallions is giving tickets to a bunch of

730
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 4: people to say, shoot video for me. How often do

731
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: you think the video came back on unusable?

732
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: Like most of the time. Okay.

733
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 4: So it's what I'm saying is like everybody thinks that

734
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 4: this thing was run to perfection. Okay, the scenes, I

735
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 4: don't think that, and the videos the videos were I'm

736
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: not even.

737
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: Talking about the allegations.

738
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: I'm talking about he loved him like you did.

739
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: I gave his whole he wrote it. But I would

740
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: never cheat on behalf of my team.

741
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about that.

742
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: You're awfully sensitive.

743
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about you generally, Like this guy was awesome.

744
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: If there was anybody that would put his heart and

745
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: soul into Arkansas like that, I low key would be like,

746
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 2: keep your head up, buddy.

747
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: No man, let's go.

748
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 4: I would choose a different adjective for him than awesome.

749
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: I would say, I would say publicly privately, I'll tell

750
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 4: it to you privately.

751
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: But you never met up. See. I would have him,

752
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 1: would be my dude, Absolutely not. I want I would

753
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: do him. I would do that. I would like him

754
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: to leave the scene and never to return.

755
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: What about the documentary coming out?

756
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to see it. Man. I think I

757
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: like him more than you do. Yeah, I know, tell him,

758
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: tell him I said to fuck off? Is it wrong

759
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: to say no? Not at all? Were you in Harbaugh close? Cool?

760
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: I love him.

761
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 4: He's my first quarterback when I was a freshman. He

762
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: was a senior, So he was my first Michigan quarterback ever.

763
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 4: He was just part of my latest charity run for

764
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 4: Saint Jude, which you know about that charity very well.

765
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: And and and.

766
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: So he's just I love him.

767
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 4: And everybody's like wondering, you know, you upset that he

768
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: left Michigan to go to the Chargers. And my answer

769
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 4: to that, and I'll repeat it here again, is there's

770
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 4: a man made lake outside of Sofi Stadium. I think

771
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 4: he walked on it to sign his contract. I do

772
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 4: not care. He hung the banner, he left. He gave

773
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 4: me one of the greatest years of my life, not

774
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: just sports, it was my life.

775
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: And so good luck to him. We're gonna see him Wednesday.

776
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna go. Are you really had?

777
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: The Chargers invited us to come out cool, so you're

778
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: going to be. We're gonna We're gonna be there flying

779
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: in Wednesday afternoon with them. And I have to go

780
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: speak on Thursday in San Diego. But they were like,

781
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: come out, So we're gonna go.

782
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 4: Because you know, my show studio is two minutes away

783
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 4: from their facility, literally a left and the right.

784
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 1: I've been to your show studio. I didn't.

785
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 4: I didn't know where they just they just opened it

786
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: a month ago. So that's true.

787
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: If you've got time, come back.

788
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: You'll you'll be I don't know. I would like to

789
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: see the guy. My wife was like, oh, you're going

790
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: to see Rich again?

791
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? Today, And I was like no, no, no, no.

792
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: When you were coming to the house, I was like,

793
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: how long's it beench you've seen Rich And I was

794
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: like never, Yeah, we've never met. She goes, wait, what

795
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: I said, I've spoke to him on the poked him

796
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: on the phone. Did you call me very graciously before

797
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: I went and or I precovered for you? And then

798
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: we've spoken on zoom. But any time that I would

799
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: be there or when I did your show, you weren't there.

800
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: I know. That's that's the point. That's the point. And

801
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: I was like, I've never met him. Second were sitting

802
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: in that I have to be out for you to

803
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: sit in? Yes, but I love you.

804
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: Your guys were so freaking warm, and you told me

805
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: and we we have a text Stedd.

806
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: We just talk about you the whole time. It's just

807
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: me and all the guys. I don't know if I

808
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: want to see that, but.

809
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: They were super nice, like, oh cool and accommodating and warm.

810
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: Your studio is massive, it's fun. It's like a it's

811
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: a rent on that plate. It's filled with.

812
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: Stuff in there that is under the category from my

813
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: wife of you know where that would look better? Yeah,

814
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 4: you know, And I'm like, where like your studio?

815
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: Oh got it? I have again.

816
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: I just walked through your finally beautifully appointed house to

817
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 4: come here, and I thought the question I always ask

818
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: a bunch of guys is how much of the stuff

819
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: in the house is what you brought to the relationship zero. Well,

820
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 4: I saw some guitars on the wall, so.

821
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: So those were in for a while. They weren't making

822
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: the cut.

823
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: But there's a it's a little sliver where there's like

824
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 2: a what's that game call where you slide it?

825
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: Oh the oh yeah, the get sure, the with the

826
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: sawdust on? Yeah, okay, whatever that we have one of

827
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: they I saw that, and that's your contribution. It is not.

828
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: But what she what she has done which makes it cool,

829
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: is I have a collectic guitars in a long time,

830
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: but I used to, but now I'll have I have

831
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: some old ones from artists like Kenny Rodgers or who

832
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: have like signed guitars. Garth Brooks gave me, like his

833
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: guitar he played one one night or one day. But

834
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: now what my wife has done, she's like, well, you

835
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: have all these guitars. We don't want to pay for

836
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: a storage unit. So now we put empty ones up

837
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 2: and some of our friends will come to the house

838
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: and we'll have an evening and she'll have them signed

839
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: guitars and hang them up.

840
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: I know, like she elevates it. Well, what she.

841
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 4: Does is she takes your stuff and turns it from

842
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: the This is what this is what a great stylish

843
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: would do is to take your shit and turn it

844
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 4: from shit into a piece.

845
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: Pola states heard you know what I'm saying. My Grandma's

846
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: that could not be done. It's now a piece, you

847
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, that's now a piece on

848
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: the wall. It's not your ship on the wall, it's

849
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: your it's a piece that's on the wall. So kudos

850
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: to you and your stylish wife and your relationship.

851
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: I have in my house.

852
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 4: You know, I have an office, so there's stuff that's

853
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 4: in there, and there's stuff that once I put in

854
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 4: the office, it's like, why isn't that on your set?

855
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: I'll get that question, which is a hint to take

856
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 4: it again. I've been you know, I've been happily married

857
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: for twenty one years now and then and then there

858
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 4: is one chair in my house that I brought to

859
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 4: the relationship one but I bought it with her mom

860
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 4: years ago. So it's kind of got like an asterisk

861
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 4: kind of hybrid. But it's my chair. It's what it

862
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 4: used to be in my apartment and it's still there.

863
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: How does the relationship work with both of you being

864
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: in mostly the same industry.

865
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: It's great.

866
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 4: I mean, we have a production company together. She is

867
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 4: the most collaborative and idea filled uh confidant, and she

868
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: also fills in so she got her own best mom

869
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: ever signed because I have my best dad ever signed

870
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 4: on my desk. And and she just brings a totally

871
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 4: different part of the equation. I kind of dig that that,

872
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 4: you know, that my when I'm not in the chair,

873
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 4: she is and there's still you know, a family sense there,

874
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 4: you know. And then sometimes she'll give opinions that I'm

875
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 4: not terribly into, but she, you know, she understands that

876
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 4: she isn't bad a thousand you know, I shouldn't say

877
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 4: that stuff.

878
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 1: Can we cut this part out? Just kidding?

879
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: A couple weeks ago, her and her partner on What's

880
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: the Football? Yeah, I listened to your show almost every day,

881
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: Thanks Palm. So I appreciate that. Yeah, that's a great show.

882
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: Thanks.

883
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 4: So is that under your network? It is under a

884
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 4: podcast network. They're having a year two come out starting

885
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 4: in September, And I you know, Amy Trask is a legend.

886
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 4: I mean, she has Hall of Fame credentials from her

887
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 4: time with the Raiders, figuratively and quite literally, I think

888
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 4: she should be in the Hall of Fame. And she

889
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 4: and Susie when we've been out to dinner with husbands

890
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 4: and friends and hit it off, and I think we're

891
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: going to actually legitimately add red Wine to the equation

892
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: this fall, because the two of them are better when

893
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 4: they've got a glass in their hand and just chop

894
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 4: it up. And that's the idea, you know, is to

895
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 4: have you know, content that is of interest and and

896
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 4: that you can't get anywhere else.

897
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: Obviously, that's that's the way to go.

898
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 4: But Susie's filled with ideas and filled with energy and

899
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 4: filled with with with just her own sensibility. Like she

900
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 4: did a power ranking the other day of her power

901
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: rankings of pet peeves, three of which I could identify, uh,

902
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 4: emanating from my behavior.

903
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: Heavily influenced by Yeah.

904
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 4: Especially the leaving clothes in front of the hamper not

905
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 4: in them, Like that one.

906
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: Really hit home.

907
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 4: But that's I kind of dig putting that out there,

908
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 4: you know, like that's that's life, that's relatable, that's what

909
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: people do and and healthy relationships can survive.

910
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: What is your power ranking of favorite musical artists of

911
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: all time?

912
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: To you?

913
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: Oh God give me, give me five, give me go

914
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: one through five.

915
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: It be hard to do it backward, okay. One, m.

916
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 4: It's a toss up. One is a toss up between uh.

917
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 4: Because I listened to these guys since I was a kid. Billy,

918
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: Joel and Elton John would be one and two depends

919
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 4: on a day. Coldplay three you got to put the

920
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 4: Beatles on that list, And I know I'm dating myself,

921
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 4: but I am who I am.

922
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: Bobby Bones five. I love the Killers.

923
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 4: I love the Killers, and obviously Michigan adopting mister Brightside

924
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 4: is another aspect of that. John Mayer, John Legend could

925
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 4: make this list. So yeah, that's my power rankings.

926
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: LASTKA concert you've been to?

927
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 4: Oh, I was at Bruce Springsteen again, being from Staten Island,

928
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 4: I'm I guess I should have put Bruce on the list.

929
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 4: But my wife's a bigger Bruce fan than I am.

930
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: Her brother is just a Bruce nut. So there was that.

931
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: In the uh in the forum.

932
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: Uh.

933
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 1: Coldplay at the Rose Bowl.

934
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: I like Emo coleplay way more than Anthemic coleplay.

935
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: I love Coldplay, sure.

936
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 2: I like the sad, slow stuff more than the get

937
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: in all the synth.

938
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: I got it, I understand it.

939
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 4: But in in terms of just a a big stadium band,

940
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: I mean, Chris Martin just attaches himself to your heartbeat.

941
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 4: It's I've never seen anything like it. I did see

942
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 4: you two in the sphere. Holy shit, that's the sphere

943
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 4: I've never seen.

944
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen clips.

945
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 4: I mean, it truly is one of those things that

946
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 4: you cannot believe until you see it. I mean when

947
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 4: you walk into the sphere and for the first time

948
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 4: and I saw on the wall these cinder blocks, these large,

949
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: huge cinder blocks, and I thought to myself, with these

950
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 4: two dots, each one of these monster sort of cinder blocks,

951
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 4: one on top of the other, all the way up

952
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: to the ceiling, to the roof, and at one point

953
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 4: in the roof you would see these helicopters flying overhead.

954
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 4: And it gave you an idea, Oh, okay, certainly the

955
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 4: hole in the sphere, there's no hole in the sphere,

956
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 4: and that's not seeing through that that is part of

957
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 4: the visual illusion. But had and I thought that the

958
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 4: cinder blocks are made of something that you can cast

959
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: these visuals on. Until the concert started and the cinder

960
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 4: blocks separated and bright light was shining through it, and

961
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 4: I realized that the light was an image, and so

962
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 4: are the cinder blocks. This entire time, I was sitting

963
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 4: there in the hour before the concert, and my mind

964
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 4: was blown. And not only can they put anything on there,

965
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 4: they can also change the depth perception. At one point

966
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 4: it felt like the ceiling was collapsing on you and all.

967
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 4: I kept thinking to myself whenever I watch anybody with

968
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 4: Dead and Company, that if the drugs are bad, you

969
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 4: were going to have a long ass night, man, Like

970
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 4: that is really a wild place to see.

971
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: You could see anything in there. They had the NHL

972
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: draft in there recently that looked amazing. I can't you know.

973
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 4: And this is how great this fear is, and that

974
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: I would recommend anybody go to it, even though it's

975
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 4: owned by the owner of the Knicks, James Dolan, who

976
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: I otherwise have nothing but the greatest of contempt for.

977
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 4: And I would say, fill his money with fill his

978
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 4: pocket with your money. Do you wish that's how good

979
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 4: the sphere? You wish you would sell the team? Oh

980
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 4: my god, have you wished that for?

981
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: Well?

982
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

983
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 4: I mean the last couple of years things have turned.

984
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: So I'll accept the currents.

985
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: Like, do you give the you give him Jalen Brunton credit.

986
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 4: No, I give him credit for hiring the guy who

987
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 4: got Jalen Brunson. Listen, when he threw Charles Oakley and

988
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 4: or Charles Oakley got thrown in jail and uh left overnight.

989
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: That that tour it for me. Do you think Bill

990
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: Parcells should be in the Hall of Fame? He is

991
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: in the whole Fame.

992
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 2: Do you think he should be in the Whole of Fame?

993
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: I do think he should be there. Yeah, yeah, I

994
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: know he's amp, But do you think he should be?

995
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: Yes? I do? Okay, what about Robert Kraft?

996
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I asked that because of the controversies. Sure,

997
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: the documentary that just came out.

998
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, listen, as much as you might

999
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: feel about deflate Gate and Spygate, you know, personally, I

1000
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 4: think Spygate's worse than the flake gate. Don't forget about

1001
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 4: the flake gate. That the ball that was confiscated and

1002
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 4: sent to the NFL and that sparked the controversy was

1003
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 4: an intercepted football. So if it was supposed to help,

1004
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: why would Brady throw an interception with it? So I'm

1005
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: saying like it's it's not cookie cutter where one size

1006
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 4: fits all. All right, So there's that, But you still,

1007
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 4: despite the spygate and despite the Deflake Gate, you cannot

1008
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 4: deny the greatness of what they did for all those

1009
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 4: years and deny and think that's that was what made

1010
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: Belichick and Brady and the rest of that roster as

1011
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 4: great as possible and the organization as sterling as it's

1012
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 4: been otherwise.

1013
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: So I mean, Robert Craft is at the head of that.

1014
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: So for the record, I agree.

1015
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 4: Plus he was also very instrumental in the advent of

1016
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 4: NFL Network as well as bridging the gap in the lockout,

1017
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 4: so I think he.

1018
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: Deserves credit for that too. Eli Manning, I think he's

1019
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. He should be. That's next year.

1020
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: You can now be yeah, he's now next guy. He's

1021
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: first time eligible next year, and I think you should go,

1022
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: what about a guy like Jared Allen.

1023
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 4: He's he's out there for sure in terms of sacks

1024
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 4: and in terms of what he did when he was there.

1025
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 4: And I think if you put folks like Patrick Willis in,

1026
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 4: and you put folks who had a terrific run in

1027
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: a career, that didn't you know, wasn't ring heavy and

1028
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 4: wasn't you know, for the exception of three years of

1029
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 4: for Patrick Willis, eight years, wasn't all that great that

1030
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 4: It's just that unfortunately it's only seven guys can get

1031
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 4: in a year, and there's fifty three guys on a roster.

1032
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 4: There will always be guys waiting, always be guys waiting.

1033
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 2: I made a list of the people, but because Eli

1034
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: was one, but Jared Allen's always been one to me

1035
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 2: that I thought, Man, he's such right on that line.

1036
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: I think so too.

1037
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 2: And if it hadn't been for the Vikings actually being

1038
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: the Vikings, if he'd have been on a different team,

1039
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: possibly he'd be easier. So here are some of the

1040
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: guys that are up next year. Yeah, Luke Keiley, Yes,

1041
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: he was so freaking good. Yea, he was so good.

1042
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: It will be. I don't know if he's the first ballot,

1043
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: but he will be. Earl Thomas.

1044
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 4: I don't know about that. I don't know if Earl's

1045
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: gonna make it. Marshaan, I think so. But running backs

1046
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 4: a real tough one because Frank Gore is going to

1047
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 4: be up soon.

1048
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 2: Too, and so you know, do you think it helps

1049
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: Marshaw on his personality since he's out of the league,

1050
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: can not afford.

1051
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 4: Sure, of course it can because these are human beings

1052
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 4: that vote, and there you know you might. But Marshawn again,

1053
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 4: I think Frank Gore has I shouldn't speak these things

1054
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 4: without an Internet in front of me, But I think

1055
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 4: Frank has better statistics, more longevity. But Marshawn has moments

1056
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 4: that that pop out more than Frank Gore.

1057
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: For sure.

1058
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: Vinitarry right, oh like easily doubt he might be a

1059
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: first ballot.

1060
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews, I don't think, so stay for sure. At

1061
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: some point I think he'll get in.

1062
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 4: But you also again, don't forget you guys got like

1063
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 4: Tory Holt should be a Hall of Famer, he's not in.

1064
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 4: I think Jim Plunkett should be a Hall of Famer,

1065
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 4: but Jim's from a different category that there are veterans

1066
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 4: committees that will put people in. So again, when you're

1067
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 4: a receiver, when you're a defensive lineman, running back, quarterback,

1068
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 4: those are guys that you have the longest line I think,

1069
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 4: and tackles guards, defensive tackles, pardon me. Linebackers usually have

1070
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 4: to wait the longest corners, because if you're not first ballot,

1071
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 4: you're going to be on that line waiting to jump

1072
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 4: past any of the skilled so called skilled position players.

1073
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: Three final things I want to talk about. Sure, Dak,

1074
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: what's happening?

1075
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 4: Great question. He's got all the cards, he's got all

1076
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 4: the leverage. As of this conversation. He is unsigned past

1077
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 4: this year. He cannot be franchise tagged, and he cannot

1078
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 4: be traded. So he's the Dallas Cowboys quarterback this year,

1079
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 4: and he's going to make a killing. He's going to

1080
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 4: make an absolute killing. Depending on whether he gets it

1081
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 4: from Dallas now or he gets bestowed a free agent

1082
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 4: contract from somebody that's willing to give him sixty million

1083
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 4: a year, he's going to get it.

1084
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 2: None of those guys have quite hit sixty yet, right,

1085
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: but Jordan Love two fifty five.

1086
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 4: We're currently at fifty five. And if Dak goes this year,

1087
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 4: I think that may be the push pull. Like he's

1088
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 4: probably saying, I want something for start to a six.

1089
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,959
Speaker 4: Dallas may be responding, listen, we've got to pay CD,

1090
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 4: we've got to pay Micah.

1091
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Speaker 1: We need you to take less.

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Speaker 4: And what about that period you know that range of

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Speaker 4: money between fifty five and sixty. Can we find a

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Speaker 4: sweet spot there? I'm guessing that might be the push

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Speaker 4: pull right now. But if it's not Dak getting sixty,

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Speaker 4: it'll be pretty next year.

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Speaker 1: Really, hellya, absolutely? Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence got fifty five, Tua got fifty three point one,

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Speaker 4: Jordan Love got fifty five. Rock Perdy has If you

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Speaker 4: add up Jordan Love's, Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence, and Tua's

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Speaker 4: career playoff wins, Perty has more, and he probably will

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Speaker 4: even separate himself even more in terms of playoff wins

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Speaker 4: and certainly potentially Super Bowl appearances, if not wins in

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Speaker 4: that category.

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Speaker 2: We'll want the narrative to be what it's always been

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Speaker 2: with Perty. We'll look at him. He's got Debo, he's

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00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: got McCaffrey, he's got Brandon I, and we really need

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Speaker 2: to pay him sixty million dollars. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: that this the narrative is correct, but obviously when you're

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Speaker 2: the last person picked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the reason why correct. Don't forget Brady probably

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Speaker 1: had that for the first couple of years of his

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Speaker 1: career too. He's on a super team. It was Bill

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Speaker 1: not Brady, But Brady, they won a super Bowl, he

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Speaker 1: won three, he won three out of four.

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Speaker 4: I understand. We'll see what Purty does. But I think

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Speaker 4: he's going to get that money.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: If he's the first sixty million guy, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people I would love it.

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Speaker 1: I think it.

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Speaker 2: You know the fact that Trey Lance wasn't the guy

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Speaker 2: that came out of that and party.

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Speaker 4: Was Oh yeah, I mean on behalf of guys who

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Speaker 4: looked like they're still in high school. I think he

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Speaker 4: with you. I think he would represent people like you

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Speaker 4: very well.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The second thing I want to mention, you know what

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't brought him Conors Stallions.

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Speaker 1: I apologize. Don't worry about. No, No, I don't worry. I

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Speaker 1: would have loved to have one of those guys well

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Speaker 1: on behalf.

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Speaker 2: I think I would have been that guy on behalf.

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Speaker 1: Of Michigan fans everywhere.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to Connor Stallions in Arkansas just just

1137
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Speaker 4: Pig Suey without him.

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Speaker 1: Brother, you know Cal, if you met Cal, I have

1139
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: met him. Yeah, I think you'd love him.

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Speaker 2: Don't worry about I signed up for a fantasy camp. Okay,

1141
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 2: and like five weeks thirty and up with cal And

1142
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 2: there's like forty adult men that go play basketball for two.

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Speaker 1: Days and I don't know, I'm gonna probably tear every.

1144
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: You're gonna love him, yeah, but I'm gonna go play.

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Speaker 1: You'll love him. I don't even play basketball.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, Well then then you know we'll find out

1147
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 4: how many minutes he gives you.

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Speaker 1: But I will, but I will go hard. The greatest

1149
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,959
Speaker 1: sports achievement for me personally, Yeah, for you.

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Speaker 2: You mean that I've not watched your highlight of your

1151
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: sports life.

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Speaker 4: Meaning that you've played that I've actually conducted that you

1153
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 4: have breaking six seconds in my.

1154
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Speaker 1: Forty yard dish? Are you kidding me?

1155
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Speaker 4: Even better other than that was not getting picked last

1156
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 4: in gym and junior year of high school that one time.

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Speaker 4: I'm just kidding No, I mean I realized early on Bobby,

1158
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 4: I couldn't hit the curve, couldn't make the jump shot,

1159
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Speaker 4: and I needed to talk a.

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Speaker 1: Good game in order to get to a certain level.

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Speaker 2: You know, was there a decision, final question, a decision

1162
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Speaker 2: you made that looking back, you're really glad you made

1163
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Speaker 2: a career wise, but was really tough then in it

1164
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 2: really it dictated a lot of where your career went.

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Speaker 4: Oh God, yeah, I mean I had many of those

1166
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 4: moments man cross roads type moments, cross road moment. The

1167
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 4: first crossroad moment was working for the hometown newspaper, the

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Speaker 4: Staten Island Advance or the Advances we would refer to

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Speaker 4: it in Staten Island and it was covering on the

1170
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Speaker 4: cops feat and I was following ambulances because I didn't

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00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 4: know what the hell I was doing, and I pulled

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Speaker 4: off the side of the road. I'm like, there's no

1173
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 4: other way to parse what I'm doing right now other

1174
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 4: than ambulance chasing.

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Speaker 1: I need to do something about it.

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Speaker 4: And I went back to grad school to Northwestern, a

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Speaker 4: deal school of journalism. That was a big moment for me,

1178
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 4: getting my first job and reading California and throwing myself

1179
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 4: deep into it was another job like that moment moment.

1180
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Speaker 4: Now the crossroads was just saying, screw it, I'll just

1181
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 4: send my tape to a headhunter. Sent it to three

1182
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 4: different headhunters and one of them showed my tape to ESPN.

1183
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 4: I got hired by ESPN through there, and another one

1184
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 4: was standing my ground with ESPN about what I wanted

1185
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 4: to do for them, which led to me getting handed

1186
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 4: a cardboard box and an opportunity with NFL Network and

1187
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 4: choosing them when I had a couple of options at

1188
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 4: the time, doing that, and then deciding that I wanted

1189
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 4: to not just rest on what I was doing for

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Speaker 4: NFL Network, start a podcast, which led to my current

1191
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 4: show every Day, and just believing in that I that

1192
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 4: there's more that I can do than whatever I was

1193
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 4: supposedly considered by management to be too important and good

1194
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 4: at what I was doing, to try and keep on

1195
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 4: looking at everything else and try and be ahead of

1196
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 4: the curve doing a podcast before many people did one,

1197
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 4: and go to streaming before anybody considered that is a

1198
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 4: viable option like that, that was Those are all those moments.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm want to encourage everybody to stream your podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's how I listen every day. Thanks brother.

1201
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: I don't only do anything live anymore, Like do you

1202
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: consume anything live?

1203
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: Accept sports?

1204
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 4: Sports is pretty much it? Yeah, man, Yeah, that's a

1205
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 4: that's about it. I mean Saturday Night Live, I watch

1206
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 4: on clips? What else I mean, yeah, I mean even

1207
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 4: like about it. Television shows, it's all on demand at

1208
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 4: this point. Yeah, I didn't even think I have cable anymore. Well,

1209
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 4: that's good because get Roku. I do have, Chiz, I

1210
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 4: do have.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan. I really appreciate you making all

1212
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: the time for us here anytime, Mike anything.

1213
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: What was the last good movie you saw?

1214
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 4: Last good movie I saw in the theater anywhere anywhere

1215
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 4: that I've never seen before?

1216
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, New One.

1217
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 4: Huh, that's a good question. Last good movie, man, I don't.

1218
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. I liked American Fiction this year. I

1219
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 4: like that a lot. I'm a big Jeffrey Wright fan,

1220
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 4: so I'll go with that one.

1221
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: That's a good movie where he writes that book kind

1222
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: of as a joke and then gets really famous from it.

1223
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: And he'd been doing serious stuff before then and it

1224
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 2: hadn't worked out, but then when he yeah, it's a

1225
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: good movie.

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00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: Kevin, anything real quick?

1227
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1228
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 3: I often say that you're like Jim nance when you

1229
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: do the draft. Hello, I watched the draft and I'm like, Oh,

1230
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 3: this is like Jim Nanster and the Masters.

1231
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: All right, where do you put that draft? Like work

1232
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: in the draft weekend? For you?

1233
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 4: Oh, it's the hardest thing I do, No, without a doubt,

1234
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 4: because it's long, it's live, the clock's moving. You gotta

1235
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 4: not only know what's going on on the clock, you

1236
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 4: got to know who's next. You got to know what's

1237
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 4: happening after that. You got to know what the narratives

1238
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 4: are going in, how they're playing out or not playing out.

1239
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 4: When it's live in the first round and then the

1240
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 4: second and third rounds, you got to treat that like

1241
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 4: it's the first round, and sometimes it can get a

1242
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 4: little slow there, and then the last day is just comedy.

1243
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: Just like, let's just go.

1244
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 4: There's a lot of time if you're watching between rounds

1245
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 4: four and seven, you need to be entertained as much

1246
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 4: as possible. So there's different vibes every night. But it

1247
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 4: is like, when I'm done with it, it is. It

1248
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 4: is demanding. It is the most mentally demanding thing that

1249
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 4: I do. But I love it.

1250
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, your car is here. I've just been told fantastic,

1251
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: so perfect time.

1252
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, my flight's taken off in an hour and fifteen

1253
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 4: and my TSA pre.

1254
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 2: Ran out, plenty of time, no problem, naked, I feel

1255
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: the naked rich. Thanks for coming mine and really appreciate it.