1 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Now welcome in lay Kick is Live. 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: It is Sunday night, April twenty fourth, Thye of Our Lord, 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Some of you are one player away 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: disaster from contending potentially from both, and I don't want 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: to say who, but I kind of have to. 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: Tonight we're gonna dive in. 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: We've got spring practice, intel, spring games, rapid reaction, coast 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: to coast and everywhere in between. There was a lot 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: we were looking forward to, and we got a substantial 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: amount of it. So we're gonna jam back the show 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: with that tonight boldness, quite frankly, like you've never heard before, 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: and it's not even coming from me, it's coming from 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: a lot of you. Tonight we're revisiting back by popular demand, 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: that segment. We did what column like a week ago 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: where it was you telling me what you would bet 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: money on some of the boldest predictions you have for 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, and I'm just gonna tell you whether 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: I agree or not. And tonight you got some that 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: I'm well, I'm both ways on. So we'll get to 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: that in about fifteen minutes. The worst hires in this 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: sport at the head coaching position in the last decade. 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 2: That's something that we're gonna have to broach this evening 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: because one of you asked that question the other day 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: and it warranted more than just a quick response for me. 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: So I put it out there and we've got a 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: lot of responses and there was. 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: One runaway winner. You can think about it amongst yourselves. 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: You'll probably guess it pretty quick. Last decade head coaches 29 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: in college football one clear cut worst of all time. 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: At least in the last decade. Who would that be? 31 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: Whoms would that be? 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: Quick programming Note, we will not have a Thursday night 33 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: show because of the draft. We're gonna give you a 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: Tuesday night show. So we've been grinding around here. Numbers 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: have been off the charts, incredible. I've even been impressed 36 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: and surprised with how good our numbers have been. The 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: production executive is because producer Jesse chose to go out. 38 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: Of town today. Was he ever really in town? 39 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: By the way, along with director Colin put together the 40 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: show Night got one more Tuesday Night and then we'll 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: take a little four day break. So keep that on 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: your calendars and let's dive into the show tonight. They 43 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 2: are watching us in Shelbyville, Tennessee, Huntsville, Texas. We got 44 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: to check in from Madrid, Spain and Sydney, Australia. Two 45 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: international check ins today. Spring games all over the place yesterday. 46 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: I think most of you probably noticed at least something yesterday. 47 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: Will we notice like forty seven things? So let's dive 48 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: right in. Oklahoma had a spring game yesterday. Boy did 49 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: they in fact? Raise your hand if you were in 50 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: that state and you weren't at the spring game. Look 51 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: at these pictures. If you're listening on podcasts, just imagine 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: a sea of humanity, basically a sea of humanity. And 53 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: then I got a lot of folks coming back on 54 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: the other side telling me no one cares about spring 55 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: game attendance and there's just more to do in other 56 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: places of the country. Those folks, by the way, the 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: ones who live in the alleged more things to do 58 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: portions of the country do about the same three or 59 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: four things per week, So their social lives are not 60 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: indicative of what they suggest they should be. 61 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: This matters. 62 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: Crowds at spring games matter, especially if you have a 63 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: new head coach in town, you got a new staff 64 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: in town. It's a huge recruiting event. I want you 65 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: to think for just a second. If you're telling me 66 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: that doesn't matter, it's probably a defense mechanism because your 67 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: school didn't show out like Oklahoma's. But if you really 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: do believe it doesn't matter, let me ask you a question. 69 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: What control over a football program do you have as 70 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: a fan? The answer is really pretty limited. I mean, 71 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 2: once you've given your money. Of course, if you don't 72 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: give money, if you don't show up, then the program 73 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: just collapses. 74 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: But once you've done. 75 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: That, how do you affect a football program? And the 76 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: answer is the spring game attendance is one of the few, 77 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: very very isolated instances of an event that you can control, 78 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: that you can impact in a positive way. It's a 79 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: huge recruiting event for everyone. But that is worth millions 80 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: upon millions of dollars in marketing, and it screams to 81 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: recruits and it screams to the university and the rest 82 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: of college football. Well, we're serious, first off. Secondly, we're 83 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: fully invested and bought in. And thirdly, a lot of that, Hey, 84 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: you know that you've been talking about us. It's kind 85 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: of in our rear view mirror. You're a lot more 86 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 2: focused on it than we are at this point. So yes, 87 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: I was impressed with that. 88 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: That matters to me. 89 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: But as for on the field goings on, it's an 90 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: early glimpse. I thought we saw yesterday into the style 91 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: that we should expect from Brenton Venables and his team 92 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two specifically, but really just beyond. I 93 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: don't really think we used complimentary football to describe Lincoln 94 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: Riley's Oklahoma. That doesn't mean they weren't effective, it's just 95 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: we never talked about complimentary football a whole lot. We 96 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: never went into a big Oklahoma game talking about multiple 97 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: levels of the. 98 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: Defense being improved. 99 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: And we think that they're going to carry this afternoon 100 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: for OU it was going to be ken Lincoln Riley's 101 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 2: offense outscore the opposition more times than not. 102 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: They could. 103 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: It's never a bad thing to be scoring points. That's 104 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: the name of the game. But well, the real name 105 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: of the game is winning football games. Actually, that's what 106 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: the real name of the game is. So we saw yesterday. 107 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: We've heard all spring out of Norman about the more 108 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: complimentary approach, and they've really honed in, especially Britain. Venables 109 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: being the defensive guy that he is is honed in 110 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: in a safety position, and they gave you reason to 111 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: believe based on the small sample size you got yesterday, 112 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: there's improvement happening there. It's not done, and they got 113 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: a lot of bodies that they can rotate in there. 114 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: But defense is going to be improved for Oklahoma. It's 115 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: a manner of how much it's improved for them this year. 116 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: But also special teams is. 117 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: A premium area of emphasis that they've invested in. 118 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: That's not rare. 119 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: It's not like Oklahoma's the only one doing that. But 120 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: what you'll see come fall, whether it's this run game, 121 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: whether it's Dylan Gabriel's ability to maybe improvise on the 122 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: run after plays breakdown, I think you'll see a whole 123 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: lot more complementary style of football that will probably yield 124 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: Oklahoma to being less vulnerable to wild volatility and outcomes. 125 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: You know, the kinds where you score fifty six on 126 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: someone one week and then all of a sudden, you 127 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: got seventeen on the board late third quarter the next week, 128 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: and you're asking how did that happen? Probably won't see 129 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: that as much. I mean, they're going to go in 130 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: and feeded, but you probably won't see that as much. 131 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: Javonte Barnes is a four star true freshman running back. 132 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: They gave him the ball a lot yesterday. He along 133 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: with Eric Gray. I think it's going to be a 134 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: really good one to two tailback tandem there, but just 135 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: a complimentary style, probably a lot. 136 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: More than you saw with the previous staff. 137 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: That doesn't guarantee success, just telling you you got a 138 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: good glimpse that that's the way they plan on going 139 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: about things. What about Lsu Lsu, I don't think it 140 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: popped a whole lot on the national scene yesterday. 141 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma dominated a lot of the headlines. 142 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 2: But I think Spring and the Spring Game it kind 143 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: of gave you something that I think is true to 144 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: reality down there. 145 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is your eyes didn't deceive you. 146 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: There weren't some guys who shined yesterday who really have 147 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: not been much to write home about the rest of 148 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: Spring and vice versa running back area. Brian Kelly's talked 149 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: about it. It looks improved John Emery as a guy, 150 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: specifically in the sec that a lot of people have 151 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: looked at at the tailback position and have longed for 152 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: him to take the next step, and especially in and 153 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: around bat Rouge, they have good quarterback depth. I think 154 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: that probably if you watched this game yesterday, you got 155 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: a little more reason to understand why I have been 156 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: very hesitant to buy into the Jaden Daniels is the 157 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: preemptive favorite at quarterback talking point that a lot of 158 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: people have parroted around the country at LSU because he's 159 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 2: not he could very well end up being their starting quarterback. 160 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: If I had to name a guy right now, or 161 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: let me back up, I'm not naming anyone. If I 162 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: had to pick a guy that's gonna end up being 163 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: the starting quarterback for LSU, it's going to be a 164 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: guy who's already done it before. It would be Miles Brennan, 165 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: and to be real with you, Garrett Nussmeyer would probably 166 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: be the next guy. There's no doubting Jaden daniels athleticism. 167 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: I think anyone who watched that or forget that, anyone 168 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: who's watched him at Arizona State before he got there 169 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: yesterday knew that. 170 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: But Brian Kelly, knowing what we know. 171 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: About him, which is like eighteen or nineteen years worth 172 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: at this point, is not going to deal with lack 173 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: of accuracy at the quarterback position, and Jaden Daniels has 174 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: not displayed a precision passing ability. 175 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: Shall we say, I think. 176 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: Miles Brennan has more of what Brian Kelly is looking for. 177 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: I think Garrett Nussmeyer may end up having more than 178 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: all of them when all's said and done. So if 179 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: you wanted to place odds here, certainly you can. You 180 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: can give me any kind of plus money with Miles 181 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: Brennan or Garrett Nussmeyer right now. You want to make 182 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: jade and Daniels the favorite, you go ahead. I don't 183 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: feel that way at the moment. But also, the depth 184 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: LSU fans will tell you this before anyone else will. 185 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: It leaves a lot to be desired at a number 186 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: of positions across the roster. They've got some good frontline 187 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: guys and they got some good depth now defensive line 188 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: linebacker looks pretty good. 189 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: But there are places. 190 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: Obviously, when you inherit the kind of scholarship situation they did, 191 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: it's not going to fix itself overnight. That's why they've 192 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: got to emphasize recruiting like eight days out of the week. 193 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: They got to invest heavily in the transfer portal. But 194 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: I will tell you this, Brian Kelly's not gonna cut 195 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: corners in twenty twenty two. And even if that means 196 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: sacrificing some short term ability to give himself a better 197 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 2: chance to win a football game, They're not going to 198 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: cut corners. 199 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: They're going to invest in the long term. Down there. 200 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 2: It seems like such a better structured organization from everybody 201 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: you talk to, I'm not talking about watching a spring 202 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: game now, I mean getting feedback from people who walk 203 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 2: the halls every day, in some cases, who are on 204 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: the field on Saturdays. 205 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: And that's to be expected. 206 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: I mean when you go from Edors around to Brian Kelly, 207 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: that's to be expected. So LSU, I think they've got 208 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: a lot to be excited about there. I think largely 209 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: LSU's spring game delivered exactly what I expected it to. 210 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: Texas had kind of a spring scrimmage slash spring game 211 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: last night. I thought it validated a whole lot of 212 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: what we've heard out of Camp. I saw someone mention 213 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: this earlier today and I'll echo it. I think the 214 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: Texas beat our folks over at Horns twenty four to seven. 215 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: Ship Brown in company. I think they've done a. 216 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: Fantastic job of accurately disseminating what the reality is there, 217 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 2: because everything they've report ward was on display everything, and 218 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 2: so you can go up and down the list. I've 219 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,199 Speaker 2: got a couple that I wanted to talk about here. 220 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: Offensive line, Like it's no shock to anyone who's followed 221 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: Texas that looked like a mass unit that is badly 222 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: in need of the half a dozen future enrollees that 223 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: are gonna be on campus in June. 224 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: So they needed help there. They're going to get help there. 225 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: But as for yesterday's spring game, the reason they couldn't 226 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: have one is called they didn't have enough two offensive lines, 227 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: at least without risking serious career ending injury to quarterbacks 228 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: and whatnot. 229 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: So you've got that. I think that's a unit. I mean, at. 230 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: Twelve months from now, we will talk about and will say, 231 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: do you remember that hodgepodge of a mess they put 232 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: on the field in the spring game of twenty twenty two, 233 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: because that's how much better they stand to be this 234 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: time of year from now than they are right now. 235 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: They made the best out of a less than ideal 236 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: situation yesterday, but it looks like they hit on Isaiah Nayer. 237 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: That's that wide receiver transfer we talked about out of 238 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: Wyoming who didn't garn. There are a lot of national 239 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: headline because he was coming out of Wyoming. You just 240 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: you have this perception about a wide receiver from Wyoming 241 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: really good, and I get to pair him with Whittington, 242 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: I get to pair him with Xavier Worthy. 243 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: But everyone was focused. 244 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: On the quarterback situation yesterday Quinn viewers and Hudson Card. 245 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: I think I got a text from a buddy yesterday 246 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: that indicates what many of you felt. If you just 247 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: take that spring game into vacuum and you just look 248 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: at productivity, you would be led to believe this is 249 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: a pretty legitimate quarterback battle. Like there's not a whole 250 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: lot separating these two. I think there is going to 251 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: be a significant separation between the two by the time 252 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: fall rolls around. And I think that guy listed on 253 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: top right now, if you're watching on YouTube, Quinn yours, 254 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: I think that's going to be the guy who definitively 255 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 2: takes this job. He does not definitively have it right now, 256 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: but when you look at where he is relative to 257 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: Hudson Card, and then you understand where they are in 258 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: their respective developments, and then you understand Quinn, you were, 259 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: who is all world physically has an entire summer session 260 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: and then fall camp still in front of him, you 261 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: will see the cream rise. That's not a knock on 262 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: Hudson card. There's a reason Quinn Ewers has had the 263 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: hype behind his name. It's not all just industry hype. 264 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: Certainly he's not accomplished anything yet, but he is the 265 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: real deal. Everyone wanted him for a reason. Sark badly 266 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: wanted him for a reason, and the reason will eventually 267 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 2: manifest itself, I think in him starting for them. But 268 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: Sark had a press conference after the spring game and 269 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: he said something that kind of caught my ear that 270 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: I think a lot of folks would just label coach speak. 271 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: He was asked, Hey, what's different you know? Does anything 272 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: feel different now versus a year ago? He said, to 273 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: be honest with you, I feel like we're a team 274 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: right now, and then he kind of stopped himself. But 275 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 2: what he really wanted to say is I didn't feel 276 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: like we were a team last year. 277 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: Now. 278 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: Obviously, in retrospect, you wish the coaches would have told 279 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 2: you that in real time, so you didn't waste a 280 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 2: whole lot of your money betting on said team. 281 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: But they can't do that. 282 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: I think some folks are going to listen to that 283 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: and say, everybody's. 284 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: Gonna say that. 285 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: No, No, everybody's not gonna say that that guy did, 286 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: though Steve Sarkusian did, which kind of goes back to 287 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: one of the themes I was talking about. I wanted 288 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: to see that quarterback battle. I wanted to, you know, 289 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: see some of the defensive odds and ends, but I 290 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: also wanted to. 291 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: Feel Texas feel the same way. 292 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: With USC going to talk about him in a second, 293 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: I wanted to, As I said, I wanted to metaphorically 294 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 2: stick the thermometer in Texas and just kind of pull 295 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: it out and see what. 296 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: We have there. 297 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: And I think what we have is intangible in nature. 298 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: As I said, there's no metric. You don't really quantify this, 299 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 2: but a Texas fan, like if you're watching from the 300 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 2: Little Rado Texas for example, and you knew last year's 301 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: team and you're watching an early version of this year's team, 302 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: you know if it feels different, and I watched Texas 303 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 2: yesterday did feel a little bit different to me. It's 304 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: always a work in progress in the spring, the eventual 305 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: national champion whopstever, that is is a work in progress 306 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: right now, from Tuscaloosa to Athens to Austin and everywhere 307 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: in between. It's not that it's does it feel little different? 308 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: And I think Steve Sarkisian is being really brutally honest 309 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: with you when he says, I didn't feel like we 310 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: had a team last year. I think we do this 311 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: year now. Steve Sarkisian has his own checkered past as 312 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: a head coach. 313 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: This is not Nick Saban. 314 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 2: This is not a guy where you roll out his 315 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: resume and it's got multiple national championships from different programs 316 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: on it to where his approach is above reproach. His 317 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: approach you don't question. In other words, if it doesn't 318 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: work out in any given year, must have been the 319 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: player's fault, not his fault. This is not Nick Saban. 320 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: This is Steve Sarkishan, a guy still very much trying 321 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: to find his way. So you could have had a 322 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: moment of genuine kind of introspective reflection there where he's 323 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: telling you, look, I'm still feeling my way out too. 324 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 2: I'm a head coach that's still kind of trying to 325 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: figure out what that perfect formula is too. We didn't 326 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: have it last year, and I feel like maybe we've 327 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: got it a lot more this year. 328 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that's nothing. 329 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately, you have to execute on the field 330 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: in the fall, but it helps a whole heck of 331 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: a lot more if you've got a lot of synergy 332 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: and cohesion inside that locker room and the right guys 333 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: inside the locker room. 334 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: I think that's why I've called Texas. 335 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: The most interesting program in the country this year because 336 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: a huge, huge storyline. Also, here's another question for you 337 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: to just ponder if we could give that team an 338 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: above average offensive line. They may not have that this year, 339 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: but if we gave them just an above average o' line, 340 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: how much different would this year be? Think on that 341 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: we got a few months Penn State. Do not overlook 342 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: what James Franklin said after their spring game wrapped up. 343 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: He said, well, it helps that we have. 344 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: A second year offensive coordinator here. Now that sounds like 345 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: common sense. It is, but you have to understand the context. 346 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: They haven't had that here and these players, Sean Clifford 347 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: chief among them, the quarterback there hasn't really had that, 348 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: certainly this wide receiver corps, which I think is very underrated. 349 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: I think the tight end core is very underrated. For 350 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: that matter, they haven't had that. Mike Heurosage, who is 351 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: also known as Tom usage on this show because he's 352 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: one of like three guys I just never remember the 353 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: first name of He could be sitting right there, I'd say, hey, Mom, 354 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: she's a mixture of Mike and Tom. I think it's 355 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: a really big deal actually that he's back now for 356 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: a second year, and it really manifested itself. I think 357 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: this spring in the way they divid up these quarterback reps. Now, 358 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: for his credit, James Franklin did something yesterday that not 359 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: a lot of coaches do. They closed the practices to 360 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: the public for a reason except the spring game. But 361 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: then he tried it right out there in front of 362 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: the assembled media yesterday, pulled out a chart and told 363 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: you exactly how many reps every quarterback took in the spring. 364 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: And when he said reps, he meant actual throws, so 365 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: not just snaps. I think it dispelled one of the 366 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: brief myths that had existed around Penn State football this spring, 367 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: which was Drew Ahller, the five star true freshman, is 368 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: going to come in and immediately compete with Sean Clifford. 369 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: You heard the tone in my voice when people mention that, 370 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: and I was very hesitant. Producer Jesse I mentioned that, 371 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 2: and I was very hesitant. That's not happening immediately, at 372 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: least it's not happening. Clifford had like two to one 373 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 2: reps to whoever was number two. And another thing that 374 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: James Franklin did yesterday that I would advise every head 375 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: coach to do was when he got asked, hey, who 376 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: stood out in spring, which is the most boilerplate softball 377 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: of a question that the assembled media could ever toss 378 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: a head coach at the end of spring. They're expecting 379 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 2: two names, forty five second to a minute half response, 380 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: Let's move on. James Franklin talked for I want to 381 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: say about. 382 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: Five minutes straight. 383 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: I think there are maybe two or three names on 384 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: his roster he didn't list. He pretty much named everyone else. 385 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: That is the only way to go about it. In 386 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 2: the transfer portal era, you got to talk everyone up. 387 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: You got to make everyone think that they either had 388 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: the best spring of their career. 389 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: Are they're that close. 390 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: Just one or two little tweaks in the summer conditioning 391 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: program and you're going to be right there. 392 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: Very very smart move on the part of James Franklin. 393 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: He said, this is the deepest overall they felt. Now, 394 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: he said, we may not be quite as talented frontline 395 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: to frontline as we've been, but I think we're the 396 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: deepest we've been. I think this incoming true freshman class, 397 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: he said, is the overall most ready to contribute that 398 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: it's been. So you can take that one of two ways. 399 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: You can even think, oh good, they're going to be 400 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: a little above average. But he told me they don't 401 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: have any superstars. I've watched Penn State football for several 402 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: years under Franklin. I don't really think it's superstars that 403 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: have won games for them. I think it's been pretty 404 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: solid play. In other words, I've watched Penn State games 405 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 2: and a whole lot more times than not the game 406 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 2: is lost by one side or the other rather than 407 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: the game just being taken. So I look at Penn 408 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: State and I feel really good when he tells me 409 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: we got a lot of depth, you know, in other words, 410 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: we can afford to lose a guy or two don't 411 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: want to, but probably will. It is football, and we're 412 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: not going to fall off a cliff production wise. Look 413 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: at this schedule if you're watching on YouTube, there are 414 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: a lot of one possession games inevitably on the schedule. 415 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: If you tell me you trust your depth a little 416 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: bit more, and you still got some really good playmakers, don't. 417 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: Short sell them. 418 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 2: And you got some true freshmen ready to contribute, and 419 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 2: you got experience at the quarterback position and a second 420 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: euroc It just you don't know the bob stuff, the 421 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: bounce of ball stuff. You don't know when Minnesota comes 422 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: to town twenty three to seventeen, who's the twenty three, 423 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: who's the seventeen. That stuff he's talking about here in 424 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: April could very well be what decides that in October. 425 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: So a lot of kind. 426 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: Of consistency that you think you can depend on, and 427 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: consistency is really a core tenant of many of the 428 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: contenders that are still around in November. 429 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: What about USC? 430 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: Everyone was excited to talk about this USC spring game. 431 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 2: Now I know that there was some chirping back and 432 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: forth between USC folks and Oklahoma folks. Oklahoma had an 433 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: incredible spring game and an incredible spring attendants. Figure USC 434 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: did not match that. Now, is that how we should 435 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: look at it? I would argue, no, they despise me 436 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 2: on the USC board, so you would think I have 437 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 2: every reason to rail against them, but they hate me 438 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: for false reasons. So really, I'm not going to feed 439 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: into that. Here's what you do need to know about USC. 440 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: They actually had a great crowd yesterday. I know you 441 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: saw the freeze frames on Twitter. Oftentimes those are taken 442 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: before the game starts. By the way, I don't know 443 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: if you've realized this or not, but there are some 444 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: people out there who are agenda driven in nature, who 445 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: kind of want to feed into a certain overwhelming mentality 446 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: that already exists. Yes, it happens, believe it or not, 447 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 2: even in our space. USC had a good crowd by 448 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: USC standards. They're not going to pack the Colisseum on 449 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 2: a Saturday in April. But what if I told you 450 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: alternate headline that USC had the most attended spring game 451 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: for them. 452 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: Since the nineties. As we're showing footage here, you may 453 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: not believe that. But all I have to go on 454 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: is what's happened at USC in the past. So good 455 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: on Lincoln Riley. 456 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: Believe it or not, these were they are about to 457 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 2: come out of my mouth for drawing a big crowd 458 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 2: at the coliseum yesterday. All things considered, we talked about 459 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: kind of the same thing with Texas. How's it going 460 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: to feel and how are they going to tackle? All 461 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: the rest of the stuff's going to work itself out. 462 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: I did not expect a well oiled machine of an offense. 463 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: I mean, they're still trying to catch their breath from 464 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 2: putting a staff together, much less putting an offense and 465 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: installing everything together. And you're not going to see it 466 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: in spring games even if they have. But the tackle 467 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: pretty good yesterday, which was sorely missing last year springing 468 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 2: and otherwise, also. 469 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: The feel is there. This is go back. 470 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: It goes back to that whole intangible thing. But Lincoln 471 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: Riley's been pretty emphatic about this, and a lot of 472 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: those players have been pretty emphatic. They've talked about how 473 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 2: how far they feel like they've come in just a 474 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: couple of months since the new staff's been on campus. 475 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley really really emphatically talking like that. So you can, again, 476 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: you can take your pick. You can either listen to 477 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: that and say, well, what else is he going to 478 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: tell me? Or you can listen to it and say, well, 479 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 2: if you didn't truly feel that way, maybe he just 480 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: wouldn't say anything about it. I will say this, it's 481 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 2: always the best approach to go to the people who 482 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 2: cover the program and go to the fans, because you 483 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: see them every now and then. 484 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: Those folks see them all the time, and the. 485 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 2: Overwhelming consensus around USC is I have no doubt this 486 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: is the right staff at the right time. I have 487 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 2: no doubt in the direction. I don't think they're done 488 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: in the transfer portal, so you don't see the full 489 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: USC that you'll see in the fall quite yet. But 490 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 2: the feel overall, which pertases to twenty twenty two and beyond, 491 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: feels exactly how they want it to feel. They are 492 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 2: going to They're going to have a wild kind of 493 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 2: scale of volatility about their potential results this fall too. 494 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking at the schedule right now. They 495 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 2: go to Utah on the fifteenth of October. I don't 496 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: think USC is the favorite in the South right now. 497 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of their fans think they are. 498 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 2: I do think that they feel once this offense gets 499 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: to whatever product it's going to be. 500 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: They will have more than. 501 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: A puncher's chance, but it's about a whole lot more 502 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: than twenty two, which I mean USC fans understand that. 503 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: I hope the rest of the country does. There'll be 504 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: some ups and downs for them this year. This is 505 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: a product that they have to overturn, which doesn't happen overnight. 506 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: But I felt kind of different than the rest of 507 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: the country. I think the rest of the country. It 508 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: kind of took an opportunity yesterday to say, Haha, look 509 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: at what you don't have there. Okay, I mean I 510 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 2: can only go on what they had their last year 511 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: and then compare it to what they have now, and 512 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: what they have now a whole lot better than what they. 513 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: Had last year. 514 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 2: And that staff's only been there three months. Let's give 515 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 2: it a little time, shall we. 516 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: What about Oregon? This was a big spring crowd. Look 517 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: at this, it's a pretty picture. 518 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: If you're listening on podcasts, imagine clear blue organ skies 519 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: and people. Again, as far as the eye can see, 520 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: they had a little over forty three thousand in attendance 521 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 2: for Dan Lanning's first spring game. Man, it just looks good. 522 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: I kind of like looking at that for a little 523 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: while immunity. I would be at this point if bo 524 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 2: Nix is not starting quarterback for this team, and I 525 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 2: didn't say that when he transferred there. When he transferred there, 526 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: I was holding out hope that Ty Thompson, who was 527 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: a true freshman last year, was going to make a 528 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: kind of a quantum leap this spring. 529 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: And it's not like. 530 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: It's out of the realm of possibility that he still could. 531 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: I didn't see it yesterday, to be honest with you. 532 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 2: I thought Butterfield, I think who was the guy he's 533 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: battling with. For second, I thought they looked very comparable, 534 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: and I thought bo Nicks was the clear number one. 535 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to change, So I'd be 536 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: surprised at this point, of course, barring injury, if bo 537 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: Nicks is not the starting quarterback for Oregon. 538 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: They had a big. 539 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: Emphasis yesterday and pushing the ball down the field, which 540 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: was one of the primary gripes that a lot of 541 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: Duck fans have had, especially last year. Remember last year 542 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: we were going into the season and I was really 543 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: high on that wide receiver corps still am for that matter, 544 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: and Oregon fans kind of felt the same way. They 545 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: looked around, they read the practice report, they watched the 546 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: spring games, they watched the games, and said, boy, don't 547 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 2: we seem talented. Don't we seem a little more talented 548 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: out wide than we're featuring from our play calling perspective. Well, 549 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: this staff walked in and apparently thinks, yes, at least 550 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: if yesterday's any indication, and spring intel has been any indication, 551 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: so they plan on using that wide receiver corp pushing 552 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 2: the ball down the field. All these quarterbacks, every one 553 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: of them I just mentioned, had at least one explosive 554 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: play downfield yesterday. Yeah, it's a spring game, but I 555 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: mean some staffs dial it back in the spring, so 556 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 2: at least they dialed it the other way. I'm excited 557 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: to watch that though. One of the things I'll watch 558 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: on the West coast this fall is how Oregon and 559 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 2: that first year's staff up there, how they utilized that 560 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: wide receiver corp. Because they inherited some good guys there, 561 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: and they've got an interesting quarterback battle, one of the 562 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: more intriguing quarterback battles, and not just who's going to 563 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 2: be the starter. I just told you, I think Nix 564 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: has got that job on a semi lock for the 565 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 2: time being. But you know, if Tay Thompson doesn't make 566 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: that move and really secures that number two spot in 567 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: battles bo Nix, you know, I just kind of leave 568 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: it open ended. But I just kind of wonder there. 569 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 2: I just kind of wonder. Had high hopes, still do, 570 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: but just kind of wonder. So that's a look around 571 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 2: the country yesterday at many things, many things that I 572 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: took away from Spring games. Appreciate you guys being tuned 573 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: in right now. If you are, it is gorgeous outside. 574 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: There's no other way to put it. I don't use 575 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: that word a lot on the show, but man, twice 576 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: this week, not once, not three times right there sandwiched 577 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: in between Twice this week I darkened the doors of 578 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: our friends and our well our friendly academy sports and outdoors. 579 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: You could pick anyone you want to. Man, it was 580 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 2: nice to get in there. Just feels kind of brighter 581 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: in academy sports and outdoors in the spring. I don't 582 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: think it's just cause they leave the windows open either. 583 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: If you need anything anything at all, I could I mean, 584 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: it could be bats, it could be balls, could be gloves, 585 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 2: had to order a new pair of turfs because I 586 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: played softball the other night woefully unequipped. Still did okay, 587 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: but woefully unequipped in terms of footwear. So we have 588 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: rectified that I did my part. Academy does their part 589 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: every week because they quite literally bring the show to you. 590 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 2: One of you complained, I say, quite literally too much, 591 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna, quite honestly try and stop 592 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: saying that so much. Academy Sports and Outdoors though, or 593 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: Academy dot Com. If you cannot get to an Academy 594 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 2: Sports and Outdoors no matter what you have planned this spring, now, 595 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: I hope you got plenty of them. If it involves 596 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: the outdoors, if it involves camping, if it involves grilling, 597 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 2: if it involves recreational activity, or certainly any kind of 598 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: sport this side of Pluto, which should very much still 599 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 2: be a planet, quite literally, make Academy Sports and Outdoors 600 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: your one stop shop for all that. And look, if 601 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: you've been going to another place for a long time, 602 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 2: that's all well and good. This is America and that's 603 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 2: what it's about. But you know, within America, this is 604 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: late kick, and on late kick We really believe in 605 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 2: Academy much more than those other establishments because they all 606 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: had an opportunity to put their sticker on the show, 607 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 2: and only one chose it. 608 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: Academy chose the right route. 609 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: So let's just respect them, honor them, and then patronize 610 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: them in whatever war do you want to Academy Sports 611 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: and Outdoors. Always appreciate them. I have in front of 612 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: me right now things that you had said, Colin, here's 613 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: your endpoint. 614 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: I like this one better. 615 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: I hold in my hand right now no less than 616 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: six of the boldest things that you said to me 617 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: last week. 618 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: I asked, if you had to bet. 619 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 2: Your money on your boldest prediction in twenty twenty two, 620 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: what would you feel bold enough to predict? 621 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: So let's dive in here. 622 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: We did this last week, people loved it, so we're 623 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: gonna do it again this week. How about this one? 624 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: Dean Dean Straka, our own Dean Straka, Texas Oklahoma and Texas, 625 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 2: A and M all failed to reach ten wins on 626 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: the boldness scale. I put this at a five. I 627 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: originally went higher, but I lowered it to a five. 628 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why. Call singularly, none of these 629 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: teams being predicted under ten wins stands out none of 630 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: them will have an over underwin total in the double digits. 631 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: They'll be anywhere from like eight to nine and a 632 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: half nine somewhere in that range, could be seven and 633 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: a half even, so none of them will have a 634 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: ten win or more over under. But he's not just 635 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: betting on one team going under ten wins. He's saying 636 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: Texas no double digit win season, Oklahoma no double digit 637 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: win season, Texas A and M no double digit win season. 638 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: And to me, like if I had to pick a 639 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: yes or no at even money on this, I'm saying yes, 640 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: one of them does hit double digit wins. Thus the 641 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: boldness in the prediction. This is essentially an under parlay here. 642 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: Just say no to parlay. It's the Devil's tool kids. 643 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: But if this were to happen, I'm really focused on 644 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 2: the Red River shootout portion of this. Texas A and 645 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: M we can talk about a little bit later, and 646 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: we will. 647 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: But what about Texas and Oklahoma? 648 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: Because to me, when you play each other, as they do, 649 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: obviously the winner of that game gets a win in 650 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: one of the toughest games on their schedule. So let's 651 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: just for argument's sake, since Texas their schedules up on 652 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: the screen right now, that's the only reason. Let's say 653 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: Texas were to beat Oklahoma. Well, automatically, I'm asking myself, 654 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: all right, well, that means I got to find three 655 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: losses minimum on here. It's easy to find one in 656 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: week two if they play Alabama, which they do. Then 657 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: they go to Texas Tech in week four, not an 658 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: easy game. They go West Virginia in week five, they 659 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: got Iowa State. In week seven, they got at Oklahoma State. 660 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: In week eight, they got Baylor. At the end of 661 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: the year. Yeah, you could find three losses there, but 662 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: they're also all winnable games. And if you get the 663 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: Oklahoma win out of the way, you see my point. 664 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give this a five on the boldness scale. 665 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: I do think at least one of them is going 666 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: to have double digit win seasons. I have no clue 667 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: whatsoever which one. I'm just playing the percentages. It is April, 668 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: after all. Next up, this one would cause a massive 669 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: ripple effect across the ACC and quite frankly beyond Clemson 670 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: wins less than ten games. And for the record, the 671 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 2: account here showed us a prediction from last year wherein 672 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: they said Clemson will not win the ACC and that 673 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: was August twenty seventh, So congratulations there. 674 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: That was not an easy prediction to make. If Clemson does. 675 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: Not win ten games, if they win nine or fewer, 676 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: I want you to pause, and I want you to 677 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: think about. 678 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: What that would do. 679 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: What that would have you saying, how that would have 680 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: the rest of college football feeling? How bold is this 681 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: to you? I gave this a six on the boldness scale. 682 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: You would think, well, with a schedule that relatively soft, 683 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: how in the world are they going to lose three 684 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: or more games? Well, here's what I came to and 685 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 2: this is why I don't think it's any bolder than 686 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: a six. I could actually see this happening because there 687 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: is no end between. To me, if they have the 688 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 2: same problems they had last last year, they go from 689 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: on one side of the coin, a team if you 690 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: look at their schedule that shouldn't even be more than 691 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: challenged a few times in the year, to be in 692 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 2: a team that could be challenged virtually every week outside 693 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: of like Week two against Furman. And if that's the case, 694 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: if for argument's sake, quarterback is no better than it 695 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: was last year, and their receiving core is no better 696 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 2: than it was last year. And they in addition, do 697 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: feel the sting of losing an offensive coordinator and a 698 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: defensive coordinator. 699 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: They could lose multiple games. 700 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: And so while that's again not my prediction here in April, 701 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: we have the entire summer for that. If you watch 702 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: them in Week one against Georgia Tech and it just 703 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: feels discombobulated, it has a lot of feel of twenty 704 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: twenty one about it. I'm gonna look at this probably 705 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say, you know what I said, It 706 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: was only a six on the boldness scale. I need 707 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: to lower that number more because at that point, everyone's 708 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: gonna smell blood in the water again for a back 709 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: to back situation, back to back seasons, and like last year, 710 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: you will turn on Clemson games and they will have 711 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: been favored by like fourteen instead of their usual twenty one, 712 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,959 Speaker 2: but still expected to win, and you'll be watching them 713 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: and you'll say, why did I bet Clemson this week? 714 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: Why did I think it was going to turn the corner. 715 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, there is a universe, there is a 716 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: scenario where that happens I'm gonna give it a six. 717 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: The next one I found a little too bold for 718 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: my taste, but I'll tee it up for you and 719 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: you can decide amongst yourselves what you think. Michigan and 720 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: Notre Dame both beat Ohio State in the Horseshoe this year. 721 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: For the record, this would be a loss to Notre 722 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: Dame to open the season in Columbus and a loss 723 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: to Michigan to close the season in Columbus. I put 724 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: this in a nine on the boldness scale. I do 725 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 2: not think this is going to happen. In fact, I 726 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: think it's a lot more likely Ohio State goes to 727 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 2: and oh here than even one in one. I'll put 728 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: it that way, much less h to two. So I, 729 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 2: like many people pretty high on Ohio State this year, 730 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 2: but it is very hard for me to specifically picture 731 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: Notre Dame going in there and winning first game of 732 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: the year. So it's Marcus Freeman's first game after that 733 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 2: Oregon reset last year. 734 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: Remember when Oregon went in there. I think it was 735 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: Week two. I was at the Iowa Iowa State game. 736 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 2: I remember in that press box we were watching that 737 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 2: and it was just boggled the mind that you were 738 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 2: watching Oregon go in there and do what they were 739 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: able to do with such ease at times, especially against 740 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: that Ohio State defense. Well, the reason I mentioned that 741 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: game is called so much in that Ohio State program 742 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: changed largely because of what happened in that game. Ryan 743 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: Day didn't even wait to the end of the year. 744 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: He started making defensive changes during the year and certainly 745 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: overhauled it after the end of the season. So Jim 746 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: Knowles comes in there, like you think, Notre Dame is 747 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 2: going to run all over a Jim Knowles defense, even 748 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: if it's the first game at Ohio State for him. 749 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I also, even. 750 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 2: If I just ignore defense for a second, I ask myself, 751 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 2: with a quarterback advantage this dramatic, and with a skill 752 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 2: position edge this. 753 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: Dramatic, how long war are they gonna drop that game? 754 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: And if they do, the spread will be about two 755 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: touchdowns or so for the record For those wondering if 756 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 2: they do, then should not I expect that to light 757 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: a fire under Ohio State, the likes of which they 758 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: used to fuel their way through the rest of the year, 759 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 2: which culminates in the ultimate of revenge scenarios in the 760 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: game at the end of the year where you get 761 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: a Jim Harbaugh who tried to slap me in the 762 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 2: back of the head and then exit the conference, but 763 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: then didn't get to the door before it got slammed 764 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: in his face. So he has to come back and 765 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 2: come in You're building and face you. You're gonna drop 766 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: that game too. I can't see that. I think they'll go. 767 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 2: I think they're much more likely to go to and 768 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 2: oh than even one and one, much less oh and 769 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: two in those games. But I'll pose this to you 770 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 2: the same way I just did with the Clemson scenario. 771 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go long a there for once. If this happens, 772 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 2: you can hit me up from Xenia, Ohio. I just 773 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 2: name all the towns that got hit by famous tornadoes. 774 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 2: You can hit me up if this happens. Just like 775 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: if Clemson wins nine or eight games, how different is 776 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 2: the conversation. How different are people talking about Ryan Day? 777 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: If this stuff happens again in back to back years, 778 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: you look at an offense as loaded as theirs, because 779 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 2: if they lose to Michigan and they lose to Notre Dame, 780 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 2: I mean chances are maybe they dropped another game along 781 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: the way. 782 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: They may not even be playing for the Big Ten Championship. 783 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: If they miss out on going to Indianapolis again this 784 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 2: year with that offensive roster, tough questions would have to 785 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: be answered. 786 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: That's why I think it's very bold. 787 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 2: Let's move on and talk a little individual award season 788 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 2: fodder here. 789 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: This was very popular. 790 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 2: I just chose one, but they're like fifty of you 791 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 2: that suggested this one. Anthony Richardson will be a serious 792 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 2: contender for the Heisman, even though Jorda's win loss record 793 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: won't be favorable. Now some of you just flat outside 794 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 2: he's gonna win the thing. I put this at an 795 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 2: eight on the boldness scale. I think it's pretty bold. 796 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 2: You may think by me saying this is so bold 797 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 2: that I doubt Anthony Richardson quite the opposite phenomenal athlete. 798 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 2: I could drop him in Columbus, Ohio or Tuscaloosa and 799 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 2: he probably would be the favorite to win the Heisman. 800 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about who he has to go up against. 801 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 2: Let's go back to those two geographical pinpoints. I'm thinking 802 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 2: about CJ. Stroud and I'm thinking about Bryce Young, And 803 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 2: if those guys are healthy, you're looking at them putting 804 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: up just bonkers numbers every week. 805 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: And you have to keep pace with that. 806 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: So then I look back down there in Gainesville and 807 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: I say, who in the world's he throwing the ball to? 808 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 2: Unless Billy napi Or and his staff go in the 809 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 2: transfer portal multiple times and pull multiple difference makers out 810 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 2: at the wide receiver position. He doesn't have the cast 811 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: of characters around him. It takes immense talent around you. 812 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: If you're gonna top what Bryce Young's inevitably gonna do, 813 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 2: what CJ. Stroud's inevitably gonna do. I just don't think 814 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: they're going to have that kind of offensive consistency week 815 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 2: to week there, and you're gonna watch him and you'll 816 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 2: probably end up saying during the season what I just said. 817 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: You'd probably say, look at number fifteen, look at that 818 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 2: quarterback Florida's got, Like, can you imagine his talent on 819 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 2: this roster or that roster? That just may be the 820 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 2: way it is in Florida this year. Certainly we hope 821 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: it changes in years to come. But man like, if 822 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: he puts together a campaign where he finds a way 823 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 2: to outpace some of the other guys who we virtually 824 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 2: know are locks to put up high level offensive numbers. 825 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 2: Then I'll I mean, I'll fly up to New York 826 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 2: and if they'll let me on stage, I would present 827 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: it myself. 828 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: I would also then make. 829 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,479 Speaker 2: A replica and have it shipped Will Anderson for totally 830 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 2: different reasons last year. So I made that one an 831 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 2: eight on the boldness scale, not because of a lack 832 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 2: of belief in Anthony Richardson, because of a lack of 833 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 2: belief in maybe his supporting cast. 834 00:38:58,960 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: This year. 835 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 2: The next one, we kind of go back to what 836 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 2: we started with, only it's gonna zoom in on a 837 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 2: specific team. Someone just said A and M's not even 838 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 2: gonna finish ranked. I specifically did a segment on this 839 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 2: the other night where you were asking which teams that 840 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 2: finished unranked last year are the most certain to be 841 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 2: ranked this year? And A and M was one of 842 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: the first ones I went to. You could, before you 843 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 2: even break down their schedule, just look at them, Just 844 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 2: look at the team. A lot of folks who are 845 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 2: doubting Texas A and M are doubting them because you're 846 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 2: doubting them against the backdrop of can they contend for 847 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 2: a national championship? You're judging them against Alabama, or you're 848 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 2: judging them against like Ohio State or whoever you think 849 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 2: is going to play for a title. And you're saying, well, 850 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: just cause they had that recruiting class doesn't mean A 851 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 2: and M's there yet. No one's saying they are. That 852 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 2: wasn't the bold prediction here. The bold prediction is A 853 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 2: and M finishes unranked. There's a big difference in not 854 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 2: finishing top four and finishing unranked. 855 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: They've got incredible athletes. 856 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 2: They've got ridiculous depth in some positions, offensive line, defensive line. 857 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 2: I've told this story for the past two years. I've 858 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 2: seen him in person a number of times. When that 859 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 2: team gets off the bus, they don't look a whole 860 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 2: lot different than the teams you see playing for a 861 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 2: national championship. They don't look different than Georgia. They don't 862 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 2: look different than Bbama. Everyone else does. A and M 863 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 2: blends in with the contenders. Quarterback position hadn't been there, 864 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,479 Speaker 2: wide receiver position hadn't been there, pretty much everywhere else 865 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 2: they've got it up to par So, again, not suggesting 866 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 2: they're a top four team, but top twenty five. You're 867 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 2: telling me if they aren't finishing top twenty five, that 868 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 2: they're gonna lose at least four games and maybe need 869 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 2: to lose five given how tough their schedule is. So 870 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 2: let's just go up and down the schedule. You find 871 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 2: me the five losses. I mean, certainly, they're going to 872 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 2: be an underdog at Alabama. Okay, that's October eighth. Outside 873 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: of that game, where are they a dog? And if 874 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: they are, they more than a three point hunderdog. They're 875 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 2: gonna be favored against Miami. They will be a short 876 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 2: favorite against Arkansas. I would imagine in Dallas they will 877 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 2: be a favorite. Even on the road at Mississippi State. 878 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 2: They'll be a favorite on the road at South Carolina. 879 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 2: At home against Ole Miss, probably a short favorite or 880 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: either a short dog, depending on what the season's done 881 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 2: at that point. It's nearly Halloween by then. Then they 882 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 2: got Florida the next week, they're favored at home against Florida. 883 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 2: They'll go to Auburn and probably still be favored there. 884 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 2: At home against LSU, they'll be favored. So I get 885 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 2: upsets happen, But even if they lose Tobama, you're still 886 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 2: having to find me three or four more. And I 887 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 2: just don't see it happening. And I think there'll be 888 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 2: plenty good enough quarterback this year. You know, boring what 889 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 2: happened last year, obviously there'll be plenty good at quarter 890 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 2: or good enough quarterback this year. And the infusion of 891 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 2: that very talented freshman class week over week continues to 892 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 2: matter more and more on the field. I just don't 893 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 2: see many scenarios where they finish on ring. In fact, 894 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 2: I don't see one at all. So I called this one. 895 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 2: You know what, I'm gonna call it a nine. I'm 896 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,280 Speaker 2: going to call it a nine on the boldness scale. 897 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 2: That's how confident I am Texas A and M is 898 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 2: going to finish rank this year. 899 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 1: There's one more. 900 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 2: I saved it for last because I really want to 901 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 2: emphasize this one. Ian suggested Utah is going to the playoffs. 902 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 2: It's a three for me. I don't even think it's 903 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 2: that bold. I think it's very possible. What feels guaranteed 904 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 2: in the playoff picture, what feels guaranteed the sec It 905 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 2: feels is guaranteed to get a team in Minimum one, 906 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 2: it feels like the Big ten's guaranteed. But outside of that, 907 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 2: what does it feel is guaranteed right now, I don't 908 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: really feel like anything. 909 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: Else is guaranteed. 910 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 2: So my point there, even though it doesn't always work 911 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: out that way, is it feels like the playoff pictures 912 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 2: kind of wide open. It does not feel like there 913 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,760 Speaker 2: are many seats with already a penciled in conference logo 914 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 2: in the blank. And so if that's the case, and 915 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 2: then I look at how Utah ended last season. I 916 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 2: was reading up a lot and watching some of the 917 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 2: spring game yesterday. It's gonna be quiet because it's out 918 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 2: there in Salt Lake City. 919 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: It's Utah. It's not gonna get the headline of a 920 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: USC or an Oklahoma. 921 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 2: But they got a really good team. They don't have 922 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 2: any question at quarterback, Cam Rising's back. He didn't even 923 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 2: hardly scrimmage yesterday. They already feel confident about him. They 924 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 2: just want to figure out their depth situation. The schedule 925 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,919 Speaker 2: could allow them to lose an early game, and if 926 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 2: they finish undefeated the rest of the way and win 927 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 2: the Pac twelve, still be in here. You know, they 928 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 2: open at Florida. Those of you listening on podcasts can't 929 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 2: see the schedule here. They open at Florida. I want 930 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 2: you to think about the hardest games on the schedule. 931 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: At Florida, USC, at home at Oregon. What do all 932 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 1: those teams have in common. They're all breaking in new staffs. 933 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: So Utah's got a supremely experienced team there. Kyle Whittingham's 934 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 2: been there for forever. They were perfectly primed to ride 935 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 2: that wave of late season momentum last year with a 936 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 2: lot of those key contributors returning into a finish the 937 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 2: drill type situation this year and all of their toughest games. 938 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 2: They have that edge on the opposition. They've got consistency, 939 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 2: they got continuity, and they have on the other side 940 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 2: none of it. This could very well be a year 941 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 2: where Utah's there when you can buy what I just 942 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 2: said with also the fact that doesn't seem like there's 943 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 2: a lot of certainty. Do you feel like the ACC 944 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 2: or the Big Twelve are guaranteed playoff spots? 945 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: Do you feel like Notre Dame's gonna look out locked 946 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: down one of those spots. I don't, not. 947 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 2: Necessarily, SEC could take three spots for all I know, 948 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 2: But I do know Utah has Here's the word, a 949 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 2: confluence of events, a confluence of circumstance, if you will 950 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 2: kind of all coming together to where it does feel 951 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 2: like if you're gonna make that proclamation, twenty twenty two 952 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 2: is the time to do it. 953 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: Boldness. 954 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 2: How bold do you feel that was? We've got like 955 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 2: one hundred more of them. There is no shortage of 956 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 2: bold takes from you guys, so we'll probably continue that. Hey, 957 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 2: they're watching us in Vancouver, British Columbia. They're watching us 958 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 2: in Kearnie, Nebraska. They're watching us in. 959 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: Lawton, Oklahoma. 960 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 2: Heard you guys had some interesting weather there yesterday, and 961 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 2: they're watching us in Southfield, Michigan. 962 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: Wherever you're watching. Thank you so much. 963 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 2: Let's go to Q and A because we've got we 964 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 2: got three really good ones here, and they go all 965 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 2: sorts of different directions. 966 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,280 Speaker 1: I teed this one up earlier. 967 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 2: I don't like doing these kind of segments, but you ask, 968 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 2: so we're going to do it. Here we go Brad 969 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 2: with the question of the year in the last decade, 970 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 2: which university has made the worst coaching hire. I could 971 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 2: not narrow it down to one, so I'm going four. 972 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 2: But I put it out there to you guys on Twitter, 973 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 2: and boy, I think by a ten to one margin 974 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 2: there was one name that really carried the day, and 975 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 2: that was Chad Morris at Arkansas Dark dark Times. I'm 976 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 2: going to read a list of teams here and then 977 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you what they all have in common. 978 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 2: One Colorado State, North Texas, Vanderbilt, San Jose State, Western Kentucky. 979 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 2: That is not a preseason basketball tournament in Maui. Those 980 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 2: are the teams that Chad Morris found a way to 981 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 2: lose to in the span of two seasons. Less than 982 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 2: two seasons. Really, it wasn't even there the whole second season. 983 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 2: Colorado State, North Texas, Vandy, San Jose State, Western Kentucky. 984 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: This was a four and twenty stretch. 985 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 2: This was again a dark dark time in the annals 986 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 2: of Razorback football history. It's something they've tried to forget. However, 987 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 2: got to give them credit. I think a lot of them. 988 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 2: If you're sitting there in Fort Smith tonight and you're watching, 989 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 2: and I know you are, if I were to ask you, 990 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 2: would you change the past given what you have now? 991 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they would. Given what they have now. 992 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 2: It's easy to say now that you've got the benefit 993 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 2: of hindsight and you know that going through that led 994 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 2: you to Sam Pittman, which leads you to what you're 995 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 2: gonna put on the field this year and beyond. 996 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: But boy, it was tough. 997 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 2: But when I went to the Arkansas A and M 998 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 2: game last year and it was just a regular season game, 999 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 2: that's how a casual would frame it, just a regular 1000 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,240 Speaker 2: season game. They beat A and M, and those players 1001 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 2: are on the field crying. It wouldn't have made sense 1002 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 2: to a casual. But when you realized that a lot 1003 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 2: of those seniors had been around for Colorado State and 1004 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 2: North Texas, Vandy, San Jose State and Western Kentucky, and 1005 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they're beaten ranked teams. All of 1006 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 2: a sudden, they're beating teams they had no business even 1007 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 2: competing against a couple of years ago. Then you realize 1008 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 2: the origins of those tiers. Yeah, so it was a 1009 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 2: clear win, if you want to call it that for 1010 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 2: Chad Morris. Next up, not too far behind, Willy Taggart 1011 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:48,919 Speaker 2: at Florida State. 1012 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: Miami was vulnerable. 1013 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,280 Speaker 2: Florida for that matter, was vulnerable, and Willy Taggert lasted 1014 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 2: two years. 1015 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: There were some people who claimed Florida State pulled the 1016 00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 1: trigger too early. 1017 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 2: Now I had a pretty good connection down there at 1018 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 2: the time. So what was disseminated to me when I 1019 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 2: suggested that because I said the same thing. 1020 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: I said, wow, I mean, I know it hadn't been good, 1021 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: but it's two years. 1022 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 2: The guy said, trust me, it's got to happen. And 1023 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 2: what he was saying was internally, we see what maybe 1024 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 2: even you can't see out there. 1025 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: There's no shot. It's disarray. It's not going to happen. 1026 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:22,760 Speaker 1: No shot. 1027 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 2: And there were a lot of people around that Florida 1028 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 2: State program that we're looking around saying, look at Miami, 1029 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 2: like they're just so vulnerable down there and we're not 1030 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 2: pulling away. Look at Florida, they're vulnerable. We should be 1031 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 2: taken over the state and we're not. And there's this 1032 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 2: team in Clemson and we can barely see him anymore. 1033 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 2: Like they've distanced themselves so much from us. And that 1034 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: administration looked around and said, is there do we see 1035 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 2: any scenario where this guy ends up being the guy? 1036 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 2: Their answer was no, So they fired him after twenty 1037 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 2: one games, they fired him, and now they have Mike Norvel. 1038 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 2: Now I don't know that Florida State fans would is 1039 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 2: confident tell you as Arkansas fans would. Hey, I wouldn't 1040 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 2: change a thing if I could go back. Now, they're 1041 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 2: not at that point with Norvelli yet, hopefully for their 1042 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 2: sake they will be. But they are glad to be 1043 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 2: out of that Willy Taggart era. I can promise you 1044 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 2: that based on feedback we got the third one is 1045 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 2: less miles at Kansas. This is one that on the 1046 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 2: very very very tippy top surface looked like a home 1047 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,720 Speaker 2: run higher when Jeff Long pulled the trigger there. And 1048 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 2: then the problem was the games had to happen. Now, 1049 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 2: this was a program that had not won more than 1050 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 2: three games since nine the latter portion of the Mark 1051 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 2: Mangino era for a comparative reference there, So it wasn't 1052 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,280 Speaker 2: that the expectations were sky high. But you figured to yourself, 1053 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 2: a guy who has won a championship and who comes 1054 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 2: from the. 1055 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 1: SEC the SEC West. 1056 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 2: This guy's gone up against Nick Saban and been very competitive, 1057 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 2: even though they kept landing on the wrong side of 1058 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 2: the equation. There's a lot of one possession games they 1059 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 2: played against Maama. You figured, surely this guy will come 1060 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 2: in and at least we'll see some kind of uptick. 1061 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 2: But if I were to take the years since nine, 1062 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 2: including the Miles years, and just jumble them all together, 1063 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 2: you wouldn't be able to pick out the less Miles years. 1064 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 2: He was never even a blip on the radar screen 1065 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,280 Speaker 2: in the positive direction, But boy was he a blip 1066 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 2: in the negative direction, because as it turns out, that 1067 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 2: old due diligence, that old vetting process that's supposed to 1068 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 2: happen during the hire didn't really happen to the degree 1069 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,720 Speaker 2: it needed to, and so Kansas got none of the good, 1070 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 2: you know, wins and stuff, but they. 1071 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: Got a lot of the bad. 1072 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 2: So that's in the past now. And the fourth one 1073 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 2: way off the radar. But boy, once this one was 1074 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 2: brought up to me, I had to go back and 1075 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,760 Speaker 2: do a little review. Where were you in twenty eleven 1076 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 2: because Southern Myths was busy going twelve and two in 1077 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,800 Speaker 2: winning Conference USA. But you want to know what happened 1078 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,359 Speaker 2: after that? What happened after that is head coach gets 1079 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 2: hired away, and therefore you got to make a replacement 1080 00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 2: higher and so they went with Elis J. Johnson at 1081 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 2: Southern Miss. And I don't to this day know how 1082 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 2: this is possible, but Southern Miss went from twelve and 1083 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 2: two winning Conference USA to oh and twelve over the 1084 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,879 Speaker 2: span of one calendar year. It was abysmal, they would 1085 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 2: argue in Hattiesburg. They still haven't recovered they had. I 1086 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 2: think I wrote it down. They had one nine win 1087 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,479 Speaker 2: season under Monk and they had an eight win season 1088 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 2: under Hopson. They really have not gotten back to the 1089 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 2: heights that they were under they were at right before 1090 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,720 Speaker 2: Elis Johnson got there, twelve and two to oh and twelve. 1091 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 2: That's tough to do. That is tough to pull off. 1092 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 2: But they pulled it off eighteen straight winning seasons before that, 1093 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden a goose egg just 1094 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 2: ghosted them entirely, not a single win. 1095 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: So the under did hit that year. 1096 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,800 Speaker 2: Those were the four Chad Morris, Willie tagart, Les Miles 1097 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 2: Ellis Johnson, the runaway winners, as it turns out in 1098 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 2: that little derby. Next up, let's go with a question 1099 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 2: that drew some ire from some people. I don't know why. 1100 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 2: It's just a depth chart question. Our buddies at college 1101 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 2: football nerds. I think maybe both of them asked. At 1102 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 2: least one asked because I care about the cut ups. 1103 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: Thank you? 1104 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 2: Which good team or teams are one injury away from 1105 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 2: a disaster season. Some of you thought that this was 1106 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 2: glorifying or predicting injury. 1107 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: It's not. 1108 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,160 Speaker 2: It's just a depth chart question. I came up with 1109 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 2: four of them. Number one the Florida Gators. If Anthony 1110 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 2: Richardson goes down, their season goes down. I think some 1111 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 2: of you are, if you followed the program, probably yelling 1112 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 2: at your phone or you're yelling at your computer right now. 1113 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: Uhh, we got Jack Miller. I know you do. I 1114 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:42,840 Speaker 1: said what I said. 1115 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 2: So if that leads you to believe I don't believe 1116 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 2: in Jack Miller, then you wouldn't be too far from reality. No, 1117 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 2: he hasn't shown me anything or I haven't heard anything 1118 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 2: about Jack Miller that would lead me to believe that 1119 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 2: Ohio State Transfer is ready to seamlessly pick up the 1120 00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 2: baton if Anthony Richardson drops it down there they are 1121 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 2: going to have to lean so heavily on quarterback, and 1122 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 2: I mean more than other programs. They do not, like 1123 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 2: I said about fifteen minutes ago, have the supporting cast 1124 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 2: around the quarterback position this year, like you need to 1125 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 2: take over games unless the quarterback is an alpha type 1126 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 2: that can take over games. Richardson is that no one 1127 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 2: else on that roster is Florida badly needs him. Number 1128 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 2: two just watched him in action yesterday. Oklahoma quarterback Dylan Gabriel. 1129 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 2: Oklahoma suffice it to say, needs him. 1130 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: To stay healthy. 1131 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 2: This is what happens when you miss out in the 1132 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 2: transfer portal. They were in it for Jackson Dart. Dart 1133 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 2: ends up going to Old Miss. They need Dylan Gabriel 1134 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 2: to stay healthy. And it just kind of is what 1135 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 2: it is. It's a new staff, so it is what 1136 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 2: it is. But the proper perspective here is not I 1137 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 2: think to look and say, man, we don't have much 1138 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 2: behind him at quarterback. The proper perspective, knowing how you 1139 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 2: got Dylan Gabriel, is saying, wow, what. 1140 00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: Would happen if he wasn't here? 1141 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 2: Because remember that cat was at UCF and transferred to 1142 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 2: UCLA for I think like thirteen and a half minutes 1143 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 2: and then reported, which is a new term to Norman. 1144 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,399 Speaker 2: If he wasn't there and you missed out on Dart, 1145 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 2: maybe you wouldn't have missed out on Dart if you 1146 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,399 Speaker 2: wasn't there. But boy, if Dylan Gabriel wasn't here, it'd 1147 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 2: be a much different tune they were singing out in 1148 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 2: Oklahoma yesterday. What about Clemson. It's not the quarterback position. 1149 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 2: I went with the wide receiver position. You could say 1150 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 2: in Gatta, you can say just fin gotta, but I 1151 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 2: just I said wide receiver position in general, because last year, 1152 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 2: if you opened up the Clemson toolbox. In a toolbox, 1153 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 2: you're supposed to have a bunch of tools. It just 1154 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 2: felt like they had nineteen hammers. I went to the 1155 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 2: Georgia game, walking around on the field pregame, and I'm 1156 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 2: watching their wide receivers warm up, and every one of 1157 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 2: them are like six three, two hundred and ten pounds. 1158 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 2: They're just all the same. They're immensely impressive to look at. Physically. 1159 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 1: The problem is not a one of them could get 1160 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,439 Speaker 1: open because they all are the same. They look the same, 1161 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: they're run the same. There's no versatility in the room. 1162 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 2: It's now thing like the rooms of twenty fifteen, sixteen, 1163 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,879 Speaker 2: seventeen eighteen. It's not that it wasn't that last year. 1164 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 2: I strongly questioned whether it will be this year. But 1165 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 2: they certainly can't afford injury. That's something Dabo talked about 1166 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 2: in the spring. They're at work in progress at that 1167 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 2: receiver You know, they always talk about the next Hunter 1168 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 2: Renfro up there, and it's gonna be that way for 1169 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,360 Speaker 2: a long time. Clemson is not the only program that 1170 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 2: does that. But Brandon Spector is a guy who they're 1171 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,879 Speaker 2: asking right now whether he's the next Hunter Renfro. I'm 1172 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 2: gonna give you a short answer. I don't think he is, 1173 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 2: only because if I dropped Hunter Renfro on this team, 1174 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 2: I don't quite think Hunter Renfro could do statistically what 1175 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 2: he did back in the day. 1176 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: He'd still be good. I understand that. 1177 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,839 Speaker 2: But Hunter Renfro worked off a lot of the other 1178 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 2: talent in that receiver room, talent the likes of which 1179 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 2: they don't really have on this team right now. And 1180 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,320 Speaker 2: so having said that, they certainly can't afford any injury 1181 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 2: in that room. And lastly, what about Notre Dame. Tyler 1182 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 2: Butner is already hurt. That's why I had to miss 1183 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 2: the spring game yesterday. Twisted his ankle on stairs. Install ramps. 1184 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 2: Take my advice, just install the ramps. But if he 1185 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 2: were to go down, essentially you would get what you saw. 1186 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 2: Notre Dame spring game yesterday. I didn't really talk a 1187 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,040 Speaker 2: whole lot about it because it wasn't much to write 1188 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 2: home about because the starting quarterback wasn't able to play. 1189 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 2: Drew Pine is a serviceable backup, he is not, in 1190 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:32,359 Speaker 2: my estimation, a high level Power five caliber quarterback, and 1191 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 2: so absent Tyler Buttner. 1192 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 1: And it's not that he's a guaranteed commodity this year. 1193 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 2: There's a lot of high hope for him, but absent him, 1194 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 2: you know, Notre Dame goes from being a team that 1195 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 2: could be a fringe contender if everything fell right, to 1196 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 2: being a team that's looking at an eight win season 1197 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:52,280 Speaker 2: probably max. So those are some of the programs I circled. 1198 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 2: You could go to Arkansas on kJ Jefferson. I do 1199 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 2: not think Alabama fits this description because I think if 1200 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 2: Bryce Young were to retire from football today, Jalen Milroe 1201 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 2: could probably lead them. 1202 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: To the SEC Championship game. That's how good I think the. 1203 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 2: Quarterback situation is right now, and how good I think 1204 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 2: his surrounding in supporting cast is, and how good I 1205 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 2: think their past rush will be this year. I don't 1206 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 2: think Maam's going to need forty plus every game to 1207 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 2: win I'll. 1208 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 1: Put it to you that way. 1209 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 2: Last question here, it's a good one. Nathan asked which 1210 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 2: one team from each conference could be a dark horse 1211 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 2: candidate this year for their conference, and maybe candidates that 1212 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 2: aren't normally mentioned. So no Penn State types that are 1213 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 2: a dark horse every year? Is that a compliment to 1214 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 2: Penn State? Nathan, I'll let you answer that. Let's start 1215 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 2: in the SEC. I'm going to go ole Miss. Then, 1216 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 2: since you say I can't use the regulars ole Miss, 1217 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 2: some of you may think, oh, they are a regular. 1218 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 2: Everyone always mentions them. Do they know? 1219 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:50,919 Speaker 1: I don't. 1220 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are gonna mention Tennessee. 1221 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 2: A lot of folks will get caught up on an 1222 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 2: m I don't hear a lot of folks talking about 1223 00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 2: Old Miss. You should, though, for reasons we've mentioned several times. 1224 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 2: I don't need to go down the list again. They 1225 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 2: get Bama at home with a bye week before they 1226 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 2: play Bama. It's later in November. We talked about that 1227 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 2: game the other night. But also they hit on quarterback 1228 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 2: in the transfer portal. It's just one little point, but 1229 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 2: yet it's a point you really need to yell, because 1230 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 2: when you do that you've probably changed the outcome of 1231 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,959 Speaker 2: multiple games on your upcoming schedule. And if that wasn't 1232 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,240 Speaker 2: enough for you, they hit on pretty much every other 1233 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 2: position in the portal, too so. 1234 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 1: Ole miss easily. 1235 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 2: If you tell me to take a non usual dark 1236 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 2: horse in the SEC, is my team in the Big ten? 1237 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 2: Now we're gonna get a little crooked. You're gonna have 1238 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 2: to listen to me closely. I'm going with Purdue, the 1239 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 2: Purdue boiler Makers. Did you know they went nine and 1240 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 2: four last year? I don't think many of you did. 1241 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 2: I'm looking around the studio. Not a hand is raised. 1242 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 2: They went nine and four? Was that not like the 1243 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 2: quietest nine and four you've ever heard? Now, they're in 1244 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 2: the West, which is like a permanently wide open division. 1245 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 2: But think about this, we're looking at their schedule. Here, 1246 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,360 Speaker 2: we're in the West, and I tell you you're going 1247 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 2: to avoid Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, and you're going 1248 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 2: to open with Penn State. That's about as fartuitous a 1249 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 2: bounce of the scheduling pen or ball or whatever you 1250 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 2: make it schedule with as you could possibly have. 1251 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 1: And so they've got that. 1252 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 2: They've you know, they've they've improved every year under Brahm 1253 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 2: since he's been there. They had a couple of big 1254 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 2: NFL departures. But the thing about it is those guys 1255 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 2: didn't play in the bowl game against Tennessee and they 1256 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 2: still found a way to beat Tennessee. So they're going 1257 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 2: to be a very competitive team this year, and like 1258 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 2: I just said, with the schedule, anything could happen. Moving 1259 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 2: on in the ACC, North Carolina State, which if you 1260 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,720 Speaker 2: follow the ACC closely, is not a dark horse to you. 1261 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 2: They're just an outright contender. But the question was nationally 1262 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 2: and nationally, if it's not Clemson, people are going to 1263 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 2: go with either pit or they're just going to take 1264 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 2: a flyer on Miami. A lot of people aren't talking 1265 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 2: about North Carolina State. Of course they should be. We 1266 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 2: should be as well. But Devin Leary and wide receiver 1267 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 2: depth will be two reasons why maybe from fifty thousand. 1268 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Feet you look at that team and you like that team. 1269 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 2: But let me fill you in on another little secret. 1270 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 2: This could be the defense most qualified to take over 1271 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,919 Speaker 2: games in the entire Atlantic Coast Conference North Carolina State. 1272 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 2: As you're looking at their schedule there there'll be a 1273 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 2: couple of them this year they win and it's just 1274 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 2: a total complete like circa nineteen eighty slugfest, and you're 1275 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 2: watching those Zeros on the clock in the fourth quarter 1276 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 2: and you're saying, wow, like that defense just flat out 1277 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 2: one this game, like that's a nineteen to seventeen winner 1278 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 2: at some point this year n C State. How about 1279 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve Oregon State the Beavers, which. 1280 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't think is a team we've talked about in 1281 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: quite a while. 1282 01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,160 Speaker 2: They were quiet seven and six last year, and they 1283 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 2: didn't really lose any games by blowouts. A couple of 1284 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 2: two possession losses, but they didn't really get blown out 1285 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,480 Speaker 2: last year. It's a really good defensive group. They just 1286 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 2: wrapped up spring. Trent Bray wants you to pay attention 1287 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,439 Speaker 2: to that name. He's the first year defensive coordinator out there. 1288 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 2: They like him, people around the program like him. It's 1289 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 2: not a name that's well known nationally. But keep an 1290 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 2: eye there and keep an eye on their offensive line. 1291 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 2: If you're looking at position groups to pay attention to 1292 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,439 Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve, they've got a dependable one through 1293 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 2: five behind that you look in my hand because a 1294 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 2: little shaky, So if they were to be able to 1295 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 2: keep help along the offensive line. 1296 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:35,920 Speaker 1: That's a team that could make some noise there. 1297 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,000 Speaker 2: Of course, I mean they've got to play a tough schedule, 1298 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 2: but just a team to watch. 1299 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 1: You wanted a dark horse. 1300 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 2: And lastly, in the Big Twelve, I'm going to go 1301 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 2: to Kansas State. Kansas State's probably gonna be a little 1302 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 2: trendier pick as the season draws closer, but I will 1303 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 2: take a flyer on a young man that many a 1304 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,280 Speaker 2: college football fan would dissuade you from taking a flyer on, 1305 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 2: and that's Adrian Martinez. If you added up Adrian Martinez 1306 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,120 Speaker 2: and Sean Clifford, you would get a one hundred year 1307 01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 2: old man, and yet one of them starting at quarterback 1308 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 2: for Kansas State and one of them starting at quarterback 1309 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 2: for Penn State. They've just they are at this point, 1310 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 2: legacy players in college football. Lifetime Achievement Awards for Shan 1311 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 2: Clifford and Adrian Martinez. I'm pretty sure one of them 1312 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 2: has a grandkid already. Adrian Martinez, he was at Nebraska, 1313 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 2: you remember, well, now he's transferred here. Look, there are 1314 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 2: some people who will tell you don't waste your time, 1315 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 2: but there listen to be honest, I've only had one 1316 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 2: person tell me this, but it's a person I trust 1317 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 2: has suggested. You know, he's actually a pretty good fit 1318 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 2: for what they want to do there. 1319 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 1: Okay, say no more. 1320 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to run with that because I know I've 1321 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 2: got Deuce Vonnet running back, and I know, much like 1322 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 2: I said, within c State and the ACC, I got 1323 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 2: a defense that's pretty salty here. All three levels. They 1324 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 2: like what they have. That's a defense that can win games. 1325 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 2: So let's just keep an eye on Kansas State. 1326 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 1: Dark horse. 1327 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 2: You wanted dark horses, so that's my dark horse there. 1328 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 2: I had a bet with the staff tonight that I 1329 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 2: would keep the show under forty seven and a half minutes. 1330 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 2: We've been on the air an hour and two minutes. 1331 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 2: I took the under. I am in total control of 1332 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 2: the show, and I'm missed by fifteen minutes. I don't 1333 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 2: know what I lost, credibility, I guess. Thank you so 1334 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 2: much for being tuned in. Make sure you're subscribed or 1335 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 2: following wherever you can. The five star reviews and follows 1336 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 2: on any podcast feed that you follow us on, and 1337 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 2: the YouTube channel our numbers. I like to wait until 1338 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 2: the very end to brag about them. Are better than 1339 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,240 Speaker 2: we could possibly imagine. 1340 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 1: Them being this time of year. 1341 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 2: Our numbers right now are better than at some points 1342 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 2: during the regular season last year, which is total insanity. 1343 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 2: Looks like a typo, it's not because you have embraced 1344 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 2: the no season mentality. 1345 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:42,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for that. 1346 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 2: Until Tuesday Night, remember Tuesday Night show for the production executives, 1347 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 2: extra heavy lifting today and direct tell and I'm Josh Baate. 1348 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 2: Have yourselves a great rest of your Sunday and a 1349 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 2: great start to. 1350 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 1: Your week in Gomblins. 1351 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 2: Here