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Speaker 4: Justin Fast Politics and Fast Economics, Molly.

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Speaker 1: There were so many things this week that I wanted

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't. I should wait and have you on the

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Speaker 1: podcast so that everyone could benefit from your knowledge.

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Speaker 3: I'm here for you, mate, exactly.

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Speaker 1: But the first thing I want you to explain to

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Speaker 1: us about is these adjustments to numbers. So I want

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Speaker 1: you to explain to us what they mean, what they are,

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Speaker 1: and are they nefarious in any way.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to lead with they're not nefarious. I'm going

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Speaker 4: to follow up with a compliment, which is my word.

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Speaker 4: You've gone deeply wonky when you want to talk about

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Speaker 4: revisions to non farm payrolls. There was a time when

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Speaker 1: But I've seen a lot of revisions to non farm payrolls,

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Speaker 4: To Molly, You're going to lose your whole audience if

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Speaker 4: we talk about revisions to nonfirm payrolls. Let me just

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Speaker 4: it in a really complete way. Say how many Americans are?

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Speaker 4: But we only do that rarely and with a delay

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Speaker 4: numbers that we get every month you see them reported

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Speaker 4: them once we have this better, fuller count. That recently

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Speaker 4: jobs than the initial estimate had suggested. Not enough, fewer.

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Speaker 4: It dramatically changed our view of the economy, but enough

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Speaker 4: that nerds like me should care, not enough that vibrant

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Speaker 4: media personalities like you should. This is a very normal thing.

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Speaker 4: It happened under Trump, it happens under Biden. It's happened

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Speaker 4: since time immemorial. The size of this revision was normal,

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Speaker 4: the process of this revision was normal. But because the

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Speaker 4: once you say a number, that number must always be

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Speaker 4: your best estimate, and you can never take account of

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Speaker 4: which is full of nerds who have no political interest.

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Speaker 4: Change is their best estimate of a number, It must

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Speaker 4: Well, there's just way less here than meets the eye.

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Speaker 4: I know people at the Bureau of Labor Statistics. I

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Speaker 4: That's what a revision is. And this was totally normal.

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Speaker 3: And also like Parris has a price gouging kind.

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Speaker 3: See, do you think a that that's doable?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been doing this quite a lot recently. I

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Speaker 4: The question is what are we going to do about

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Speaker 4: It's actually even better than that. Here's his plan, literally

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Speaker 4: That's the plan. I'm going to call some guys right right,

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Speaker 4: Because they could, So we know what this does to

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Speaker 4: It's inflationary. So anything you didn't like from the last

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Speaker 4: Let's practice. It's Thanksgiving and you're sitting around the table

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Speaker 4: Great, so let's be even simpler, right, So it turns

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, your beauty, isn't this fabulous? And so

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Speaker 1: Harris is I think more pro business than Biden. You know,

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Speaker 4: I think that's right. I think I'm not confident that

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Speaker 4: And so you might feel, oh, a business guy is

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Speaker 4: Pro existing businesses, and often at yours in my expense. Right,

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Speaker 4: so let's give our mates big tax breaks. Well, if

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us why unions are good for capitalism.

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Speaker 4: Look, there's two things unions do. When you have a

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Speaker 4: it enlarges the size of the pie. The second thing

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Speaker 4: my pitch for unions is when they're helping the working

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Speaker 7: then he decided, like in his his brain one day.

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Speaker 3: Want The backstory for everyone.

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Speaker 1: Who has not completely read and on this one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent is that James Comer has been obsessed with impeaching

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden since Joe Biden became president.

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Speaker 7: That's right, as he was getting sworn in, they were

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Speaker 7: already filing articles of impeachment.

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Speaker 3: And he is hunter. Biden's laptop is his.

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Speaker 7: Religion, right, which they've never showed us.

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Speaker 3: Right, why don't you ever get to see the laptop.

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Speaker 7: Because we don't believe the data isn't corrupted. Right, And

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Speaker 7: that's been the thing. There is a laptop, it exists, right,

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Speaker 7: but there's no proof that that laptop didn't pass through

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Speaker 7: fifteen people and they put stuff on the laptop.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 7: We've asked the sendative forensics experts and what I did?

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Speaker 7: They they've never show this. But Comer dropped finally the

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Speaker 7: impeachment report. Yes, right, we finally have the three hundred

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Speaker 7: page report. And the conclusion is Joe Biden is the

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Speaker 7: most impeachable president of all time, the most evidence ever

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Speaker 7: compiled to impeach your president. And so I say to

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Speaker 7: my dear friend James, who I care about his mental health?

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Speaker 3: When when is the vote?

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Speaker 6: This is great? This is great news.

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Speaker 7: We have it that we have the damning report, we

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Speaker 7: got it, breaking news. When is the vote scheduled? We

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Speaker 7: only have three weeks last before the election?

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Speaker 3: Which week is it? Yeah? I want to I want

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Speaker 3: to be.

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Speaker 1: Available and Calmer in turn calls you a smurf.

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Speaker 7: Well, so I was wearing a blue suit not dissimilar

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Speaker 7: to the one I'm wearing today, and I was getting

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Speaker 7: under his skin. And what is strained is the hamster

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Speaker 7: in the wheel in his brain turning things Like the

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Speaker 7: first thing that popped into his mind of what to

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Speaker 7: call me was a smurf. There there's like so many

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Speaker 7: other ones to go long.

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Speaker 1: It's been since the Smurfs have been on television, Like

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Speaker 1: how old is James Comer?

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Speaker 7: First of all, as it was happening, I was like,

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Speaker 7: oh yeah, James, talk to me, dirty, keep keep keep going,

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Speaker 7: because I was like, this is a gift.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm a freshman.

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Speaker 7: I'm a freshman, you're the chairman you have And then

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Speaker 7: he literally goes stop the clock and I'm like, we're

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Speaker 7: getting more time.

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Speaker 3: This is amazing.

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Speaker 1: So he is the most impeachable president ever, but they

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Speaker 1: don't want to have a vote.

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Speaker 3: Why the evidence is so good. It's so good?

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Speaker 1: Was Comer confused by switching to even though he had

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Speaker 1: the entire Republican party had deemed Joe Biden too old

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Speaker 1: when Democrats actually decided that Joe Biden should not have

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Speaker 1: to run for another term, and not even and when

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden decided that Joe Biden should not have to

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Speaker 1: run for another term and his vice president, the heir apparent,

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Speaker 1: the person who was also on the ticket, decided to run.

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Speaker 3: Was James Comer surprised.

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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I can't believe that the Republicans

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Speaker 7: have not been able to figure this out over the

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Speaker 7: last thirty days. First of all, one of their key

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Speaker 7: messages was that Joe Biden is half dead and the

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Speaker 7: president is gonna be Kamala. That was literally they were

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Speaker 7: running ads that literally was like this is who's gonna

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Speaker 7: be in charge? And then it happened and they were

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Speaker 7: like shit, they have totally not been able to figure

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Speaker 7: it out. Like I'm looking at Trump's strategy, He's gone

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Speaker 7: from she's not black to I'm better looking than.

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Speaker 6: Kamala, which is a weird thing.

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Speaker 7: Like an alpha male walking around going you like, see

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Speaker 7: that woman over there, I'm totally better looking than HER's.

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Speaker 1: Also like that sometimes he's like she's so beautiful, Like again,

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Speaker 1: what is that different?

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Speaker 7: But like, here's the thing. I was just thinking to myself,

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Speaker 7: like what world do we live in? That when Trump

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Speaker 7: was talking about the late great Hannibal elector, he was

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Speaker 7: actually winning? Yeah, like that was that was the platform

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Speaker 7: that was actually winning. Right, Like like I know I'm

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Speaker 7: not his advisor, but maybe get back to that, perhaps,

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Speaker 7: you know, because because that was going well, But no, Comer,

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Speaker 7: listen to what Comber's doing.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 7: Comber he drops this report on Biden most impeachable President ever.

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Speaker 7: And I really think they did that because now they're

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Speaker 7: turning their attention to Tim Walls. Have you heard the latest?

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Speaker 7: Tim Walls is a secret Chinese agent. Okay, He's a

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Speaker 7: secret Chinese agent, which to me is just unbelievably amazing.

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Speaker 7: It's amazing because I don't know, when you like to

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Speaker 7: look at Tim and his wife and the family, like.

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Speaker 3: You don't they just totally reek of president.

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Speaker 7: She picking these people to be the to be the

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Speaker 7: undercover Chinese agent.

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Speaker 1: I mean came to She's attention in Nebraska when he

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Speaker 1: was growing up, right, I mean it just and and

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Speaker 1: it forgets the fact that one of Comer's entire pieces

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Speaker 1: of evidence against Joe Biden crumbled when we found out

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Speaker 1: he was listening to an indicted spy who was a

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Speaker 1: former Chinese agent. Then I want to also go back

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Speaker 1: to Comber's moment when his witness, his star witness, ended

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Speaker 1: up in jail.

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Speaker 7: No, no, he testified from jail. He didn't wind up

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Speaker 7: in jail. He was already there. And Comer was like, Okay, look,

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Speaker 7: we've had one Chinese spy, we've had another one go

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Speaker 7: completely missing. Okay, remember that he's we've lost our informant. Okay,

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Speaker 7: They're like, who who else could we get to really

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Speaker 7: bolster our case? Is anyone in prison available? And you

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Speaker 7: can't make this up. I spoke to the Kentucky delegation

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Speaker 7: this morning. They begged me to come. It was the

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Speaker 7: only state I said yes to other than Florida. Wait why,

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Speaker 7: I wanted to thank them? I said, I know none

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Speaker 7: of you in the room voted for James Comer, but

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Speaker 7: thank you for sending him to Congress. You have done

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Speaker 7: America a deep service. In fact, he should be in

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Speaker 7: charge of five committees.

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Speaker 3: Comer, the House, what's it like? Right now.

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Speaker 1: So you guys are coming back, not next week, but

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Speaker 1: the week when August is over. We got three weeks

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Speaker 1: right when your vacations, when you're long.

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Speaker 3: August and October. Yes, but you guys are going to

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Speaker 3: come back.

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Speaker 1: And part of the House, the Freedom Caucus, or as

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Speaker 1: we like to think of them, the Genius Club, have

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Speaker 1: already threatened to shut out.

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Speaker 7: It's people that were turned down from MENSA.

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Speaker 1: They've already threatened to shut down the government already.

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Speaker 7: I think that's actually a real threat. Okay from them,

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Speaker 7: I think I think that's a real threat, and I

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Speaker 7: actually think it's freedom adjacent. I think there'll be some

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Speaker 7: other people of freedom plus whichever. Yeah, I think there'll

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Speaker 7: be some other people that join them. The Speaker is

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Speaker 7: going to have to decide whether he wants to make

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Speaker 7: another deal with Hakim, which is what we've had to

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Speaker 7: do in the past, right to keep the government open.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that it's in Trump's benefit. Are you

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Speaker 7: to close the government.

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Speaker 1: On the government a month before the election? Democrats could

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Speaker 1: not ask for.

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Speaker 7: That's right, And so I think if Trump gives him

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Speaker 7: the clear to go make the deal, Trump will that

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Speaker 7: can protect him at the end which is what Trump

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Speaker 7: did against Marjorie, against that whole thing. He protected him

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Speaker 7: from Marjorie trying to take him out. I mean, look,

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Speaker 7: I don't know her personally. Committee No, but why I'm

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Speaker 7: on a committee with her, but I don't know her

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Speaker 7: personally because she is the worst member of Congress.

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Speaker 3: Did she show up for any of the No, she's there.

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Speaker 7: Oh we know when she's there.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, we get our we get a Ouiji board

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Speaker 7: out when she shows up.

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Speaker 8: Okay.

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Speaker 3: But do you think they could shut down the government.

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Speaker 7: I think it's a real threat, and it's really about

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Speaker 7: how much wiggle room Johnson has to make the deal

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Speaker 7: with Akim Kam's ready to give the votes. We've shown

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Speaker 7: we're ready to be the adults in the room. We've

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Speaker 7: done it before. We did it not with somebody. We

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Speaker 7: did it with the debt ceiling, and we've done it

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Speaker 7: several times by keeping the government open. And so so

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Speaker 7: long as he knows that Trump has his back, so

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Speaker 7: it's up to Trump, then then that that deal will happen.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine a Republican party where they're giving this

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Speaker 1: much power to their candidate.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's where it's at. And can you imagine

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Speaker 7: a scenario which we were going towards. We're not there now.

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Speaker 7: I don't think there's any scenario. And what I'm about

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Speaker 7: to say is where we would wind up. But a

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Speaker 7: month ago, it was possible where Trump would win, he

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Speaker 7: would have both houses. That scenario was very alive. It's

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Speaker 7: not alive anymore. He could still win, We should be

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Speaker 7: very serious about that. It's halftime at the moment. He

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Speaker 7: could still win. But him winning and having both houses

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Speaker 7: I don't think is plausible. It was a month ago,

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Speaker 7: and that's where Trump would have been in charge of

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Speaker 7: both the Senate and the House. There would have been

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Speaker 7: no autonomy at all, and.

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Speaker 1: They probably would have shut down the government, though they

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Speaker 1: did do that once before to great effect.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 5: You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: Are you concerned about Project twenty twenty five and how

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Speaker 2: Jared Poulis is the governor of Colorado.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Fast Politics, Governor.

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Speaker 9: Polus excited to be here in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because you're the governor of Colorado. I always

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Speaker 1: think of you as like someone who's doing cool, weird,

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Speaker 1: counterintuitive stuff in your state.

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Speaker 3: Tell us about some of that stuff.

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Speaker 5: Oh gosh, I mean Colorado.

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Speaker 9: Those are good adjectives to describe us, you know, weird, counterintuitive,

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Speaker 9: for innovative. I'd say, you know, there's a lot going

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Speaker 9: on in that area. One of those our voters shows

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Speaker 9: to legalize magic mushrooms some sill in. So we are

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Speaker 9: working on setting up kind of how we're going to

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Speaker 9: make sure that you know, the spas that do this

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Speaker 9: are safe and they'll be safer, you know. Right now,

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Speaker 9: people go to like you know, Mexico, Columbia, they do

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Speaker 9: this stuff and I know people who've done that, and

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Speaker 9: there's a lot of promise around helping to end opioid

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Speaker 9: dependency and example, break the cycle depression. So Colorado will

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Speaker 9: be kind of deplace in the United States where it's

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Speaker 9: safe and and we make sure that people are trained.

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Speaker 9: So that's one of those things I think in that

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Speaker 9: vein that we're working on implementing.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, I'm sober since I was nineteen,

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Speaker 1: and I wonder how much you guys, because you're a

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Speaker 1: state that's sort of known for legalized marijuana and a

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Speaker 1: lot of recreational sports, what you guys do on this

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Speaker 1: sort of sobriety side.

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Speaker 3: To compliment that, did you say recreational sports?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, sports, we're very like reach of the lowest obesity

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Speaker 9: rate in the country.

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Speaker 5: Drug sport, well, not together, I think.

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Speaker 9: But you know, it's about respecting freedom and people's ability

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Speaker 9: to choose how they live their own lives. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I have you know, some people, and I like you,

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Speaker 9: I don't drink or do that, but like some people

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Speaker 9: want to enjoy beers with a you know, Monday night

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Speaker 9: football sunder that football game. And others want to smoke

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Speaker 9: joints on the weekend, and some people want to hang

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Speaker 9: off of rocks.

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Speaker 5: I don't do that either.

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Speaker 9: I mean, they climb up on these rocks and they

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Speaker 9: hang and sleep in a little hammock.

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Speaker 5: If they roll the wrong way, they die. But it's

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Speaker 5: up to them.

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Speaker 9: I mean, we just have freedom in Colorado and we

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Speaker 9: celebrate that different strokes for different folks.

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Speaker 3: You think that's a winning message for Democrats.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, I mean I like the way Tim Wallas puts it.

682
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Speaker 9: You know, mind your own damn business, right, Like, this

683
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Speaker 9: isn't the government's decision to make everybody gets to live

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Speaker 9: their own lives, be true to themselves, pursue their own

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Speaker 9: you know, success in their own terms, and that can

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Speaker 9: mean whatever it means in Colorado. The free State of

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Speaker 9: Colorado is a place where you can, you can, you know,

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Speaker 9: be who you are and celebrate.

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Speaker 1: That you came to Colorado. It was sort of a

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Speaker 1: purple state. You were involved in flipping it blue. How

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Speaker 1: do you guys do that?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 9: Look, I mean Colorado is the plurality of our voters.

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Speaker 9: The biggest group is unaffiliated, and that'll actually be a

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Speaker 9: majority very soon, it's like forty eight percent, it'll probably

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Speaker 9: be fifty percent neither Democrat nor Republican very very soon. So,

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's what I like to say is it's

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Speaker 9: kind of on loan. It's not that either side kind

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Speaker 9: of has that. If the Republicans put up attractive candidates

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Speaker 9: that are pro freedom, of course they could win.

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Speaker 5: But they haven't been.

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Speaker 9: They've been putting up candidates that are very you know,

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Speaker 9: anti freedom, big government, restrictive control of people do and

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Speaker 9: Democrats have really stayed on the message of making sure

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Speaker 9: we empower people to live their own lives.

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Speaker 1: There are these Western states that Democrats have lost. I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: like Wyoming, Montana. Perhaps we will see what happens in

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Speaker 1: that ten race. Do you think your secret sauce is

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Speaker 1: transferable to those states?

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Speaker 3: And what should Democrats be doing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, I think I think that pro freedom message and

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Speaker 9: obviously choice is part of that productive health. Obviously people

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Speaker 9: should be free to make their own reproductive health decisions.

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Speaker 9: Some of the most intimac decisions we make about when

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Speaker 9: and if to have children. That's entirely your business, not

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Speaker 9: the government's business. That resonates well in the West, in

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Speaker 9: the whole country. But I think that's a winning message

719
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Speaker 9: for the Nevadas and Arizonas of the world, which are

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Speaker 9: going to be front and center the selection cycle, as

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Speaker 9: well as for the Montanas of the world.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's a world where I mean, like

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Speaker 1: Wyoming is such a small population, I mean, are there

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Speaker 1: worlds in which a state like that could flip to

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Speaker 1: Democrats are using That's unlikely.

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Speaker 9: I think what we're seeing in Colorado with soon to

727
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Speaker 9: be a majority independent, this is happening nationally. I mean,

728
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Speaker 9: both parties are losing membership, especially among young people under thirty.

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Speaker 9: It's already a strong majority that are unaffiliated Independent, And yeah,

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Speaker 9: in a state like Wyoming, again, with the right candidate,

731
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Speaker 9: you can make that case and say, hey, look, people

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Speaker 9: are shopping around for who's going to be best for

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Speaker 9: their future, who's going to protect their freedom. They're not

734
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Speaker 9: wedded to the Republicans or Democrats or not pulling the

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Speaker 9: lever who are or the candidates are? They really want

736
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Speaker 9: to know who the folks are that are that are

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Speaker 9: coming forward and what their ideas are.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of anxiety at this convention

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Speaker 1: for good reason. We all remember twenty sixteen. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of exuberance and joy because we all remember two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight. But you know, there's an Obama level

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Speaker 1: sense here. But I wonder, do you think there's a

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Speaker 1: world like do you ever sort of pause and think

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Speaker 1: like there's a world where she just walks away.

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Speaker 3: With it and it's a landslide?

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Speaker 5: I hope?

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Speaker 6: So, right, I hope.

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Speaker 3: So this is going to be a grind.

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Speaker 9: I mean, this is coming down to a few votes

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Speaker 9: in the seventh states. If something breaks our way and

751
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Speaker 9: somehow we win those states, Handling and Nashley, that's great.

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Speaker 9: Everybody's got to work like this will be decided by

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Speaker 9: just a handful of.

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Speaker 5: Votes in these key swing states.

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Speaker 9: So we're gonna leave nothing on the you know, nothing

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Speaker 9: on the field. Put it all out there. I mean,

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Speaker 9: these are delegates, These are the hardcore folks.

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Speaker 5: These are the folks.

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Speaker 9: Going door to door, They're making calls, they're rallying the volunteers.

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Speaker 9: They are volunteers, and you know, it's going to be

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Speaker 9: a fight over the next few weeks to get.

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Speaker 5: The vote up.

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Speaker 1: Last night, President Obama talked about how it was possible

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Speaker 1: that Republicans, if the election were close, would cheat or

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Speaker 1: try to overturn the election, or try to throw out votes,

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Speaker 1: or any number of the things Trump actually tried in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It seemed normal at the time for him

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Speaker 1: to say that, but it is profound for someone who

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Speaker 1: is such an institutionalist and such a serious person to

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Speaker 1: say this. It really means that it's a real, true

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Speaker 1: threat in the way that a lot of us have thought,

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Speaker 1: how worried are you about that? And also how insane

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Speaker 1: is that that that's a real worry In twenty twenty.

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Speaker 9: Four, well, and you even have Donald Trump attacking the

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Speaker 9: city and governor of Georgia of his own party, where

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Speaker 9: I guess presumably the grievances include the governor's reluctance to

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Speaker 9: try to manipulate the election to favor Donald Trump. I

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Speaker 9: have confidence the election integrity of the country, certainly Colorado

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Speaker 9: speak for the first ten knowledge, but other states as well.

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Speaker 9: The count will be the count, the voice that people

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Speaker 9: will be heard, The electors will reflect the will of

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Speaker 9: the voters in this states, and whoever wins will be

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Speaker 9: the next president of the United States. I would just add,

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Speaker 9: by the way that I joined many people of saying

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Speaker 9: we shouldn't really have this electoral college. It's just a

786
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Speaker 9: it's a potential problem that is not solving for anything.

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Speaker 9: We should just have direct vote of the people. I

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Speaker 9: mean this just you know, adds in we have, you know,

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Speaker 9: disloyal electors, you have you know, all these things that

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Speaker 9: can happen.

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Speaker 5: Not to mention competing slates.

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Speaker 9: It's there's no it's an archaic element of our system.

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Speaker 9: That's if it had any usefulness back in the day.

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Speaker 9: It's time is passed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But something you saw here that was interesting.

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Speaker 9: Everything's exciting. I mean, my gosh, how great to see

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Speaker 9: Barack and Michelle Obama. Wow right, I mean the energy

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Speaker 9: here in the grassroots and you know your listeners by

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Speaker 9: want to know what is somebody like me, what is

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Speaker 9: a principal of governor center?

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Speaker 5: What are they doing?

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Speaker 9: We're at like thirty thirty five things every day, so

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Speaker 9: you just are popping around. I mean, speaking of this

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Speaker 9: environmental group, I spoke to the Nevada delegation this morning,

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Speaker 9: you know, on the Colorado delegation. So it's just you know,

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Speaker 9: this constant stream of because it's not just the delegates

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Speaker 9: who are here. A lot of the kind of infrastructure

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Speaker 9: and policy groups and advocates and grassroots organizations.

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Speaker 3: Are all here, right, unions, state.

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Speaker 9: Unions, I mean, they're all here, environmental groups, and it's

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Speaker 9: really exciting to be able to interact with all of

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Speaker 9: them and to help make sure that everybody is kind

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Speaker 9: of going the same way and helping you. Elet Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 9: thank you, Governor, thank you. Good to see you in person.

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Speaker 2: Chris Murphy is the junior Senator from Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: Senator Chris Murphy here with me. You negotiated this incredible

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Speaker 1: immigration bill. Yes, and when you did it, it was

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Speaker 1: during Christmas. It was like a labor of love for

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Speaker 1: the administration. Talk to me about what it was and

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Speaker 1: how it worked and what.

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Speaker 3: It sort of set up as a larger frame.

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Speaker 10: Well, remember that negotiation started in the fall of last

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Speaker 10: year because Republicans said they wouldn't vote for Ukraine funding

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Speaker 10: unless we added some provisions to secure the border. But

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Speaker 10: as we got into the negotiation and the numbers at

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Speaker 10: the border started to get higher and hired. By the

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Speaker 10: end of twenty twenty three, you're talking about eight thousand

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Speaker 10: people every day showing up at the border. It became

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Speaker 10: clear we had to do this anyway, regardless of whether

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Speaker 10: it was attached to Ukraine Aid. And so we stayed

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Speaker 10: at that table through Thanksgiving, through Christmas, through the beginning

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Speaker 10: of the year. You jam James Langford, Kirsten Cinema, right, like.

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Speaker 3: Could not get three senators who are more.

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Speaker 10: Different were more different, right, And Langford, you know, was

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Speaker 10: not going to commit to anything unless he thought that

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Speaker 10: he had his caucus. So he had to go back

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Speaker 10: to his caucus over and over and over again.

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Speaker 1: Langford is an old school Republican. May not agree with

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Speaker 1: his policies, but is earnest and really does want to.

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Speaker 10: Legislate, really wants to legislate. But frankly, you know, had

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Speaker 10: never ever delivered on something this big. Langford had been

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Speaker 10: in a lot of rooms, but it never actually delivered

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Speaker 10: a big piece of legislation like this. Cinema and I

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Speaker 10: had just the year before on guns, but Langford had not.

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Speaker 10: And so I certainly had doubts throughout the process that

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Speaker 10: you know, Langford maybe was in the room because Republicans

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Speaker 10: knew that he wouldn't get to yes. And I mean,

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Speaker 10: at some level he surprised me by closing the deal

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Speaker 10: in the spring, convincing you know, what we thought were

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Speaker 10: around fifteen or twenty Republicans to go with him, agreeing

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Speaker 10: to you know, a handful of pretty important democratic priorities.

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Speaker 10: So we didn't get a path with a decisionship in

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Speaker 10: that bill. But you know, we got immediate work permits

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Speaker 10: for immigrants at the border, we got paid for legal

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Speaker 10: representation for kids. We got the biggest increase in family

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Speaker 10: reunification visas in a generation. So we got good democratic

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Speaker 10: priorities in there. He said, yes, he thought he had

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Speaker 10: fifteen to twenty Republicans with him on Sunday afternoon. We

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Speaker 10: released the bill Sunday about seven eight o'clock, and then

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Speaker 10: all hell broke loose. Trump saw, Yes, Trump saw it,

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Speaker 10: and he looked at it, and he said, actually, that

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Speaker 10: bill will bring enough order to the border between now

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Speaker 10: and the election that I'll lose it as a talking point.

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Speaker 10: And at about I don't know, nine o'clock that night,

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Speaker 10: Stephen Miller organized the crazy nativist right wing to take

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Speaker 10: the bill down online. At about ten o'clock that night,

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Speaker 10: Cinema goes to.

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Speaker 5: Bed like really early. She's a super early riser.

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Speaker 10: So I knew that I was kind of sending this

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Speaker 10: text into nothing, but I texted cinema at about ten o'clock's

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Speaker 10: that Sunday night after we released the bill, I said,

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Speaker 10: they're going to kill this bill before we get up

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Speaker 10: in the morning, like they're going to kill it tonight,

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Speaker 10: And that's exactly what happened.

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Speaker 5: By Monday morning, it was pretty.

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Speaker 1: Clear that that negotiation was so important, even though a

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Speaker 1: didn'ka passed right ultimately.

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Speaker 10: And listen, that's not what I was trying to do, right,

879
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 10: I was trying to pass a bill. But once they

880
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Speaker 10: killed it and were so transparent about why they killed it,

881
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Speaker 10: you know, you had McConnell, Lankford, Romney, Dan Crenshawn the House.

882
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 10: You know, multiple high level Republicans going on the record

883
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Speaker 10: and saying Donald Trump killed this bill for political reasons.

884
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Speaker 10: It's a good bill. It became a political imperative that

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Speaker 10: we tell that very simple story because the Republicans were

886
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Speaker 10: telling it themselves. It was a good bill, it would

887
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Speaker 10: have fixed many of the problems of the border. Republicans

888
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 10: killed it because Donald Trump wants chaos. That's a ten

889
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Speaker 10: second winning message. I didn't do this bill for a message,

890
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Speaker 10: but what we got is our first opportunity in a

891
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Speaker 10: very long time to prove to people what we have

892
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Speaker 10: always said. We've said, the Republicans just want to talk

893
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Speaker 10: about the border, they don't want to actually solve the problem.

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Speaker 5: And now we have the proof.

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Speaker 1: What I thought was very interesting, and McConnell even sort.

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Speaker 10: Of McConnell negotiated as well. McConnell wasn't ever directly in

897
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Speaker 10: the room, but his staff were in the room.

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Speaker 3: That without Mitch McConnell on board.

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Speaker 10: Yes, but the center Republican Caucus is different today than

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Speaker 10: it was just two years ago. McConnell does not have

901
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Speaker 10: the kind of control that he did even in twenty

902
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Speaker 10: twenty two. When we negotiated the gun bill in twenty

903
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Speaker 10: twenty two, McConnell wasn't in the room, but if McConnell

904
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Speaker 10: was for it, and he ended up being for it,

905
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Speaker 10: we knew he could deliver enough Republicans. That's not the

906
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Speaker 10: Republican conference in twenty twenty four. McConnell cannot deliver the

907
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Speaker 10: kind of votes that he could just a few years ago.

908
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Speaker 3: With the map.

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Speaker 1: This is this very bad Senate map for Democrats, like

910
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Speaker 1: of sort of you know those cycle works that there

911
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Speaker 1: are certain years that it just sucks, and this is

912
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Speaker 1: a lot of red states up. What do you I mean,

913
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Speaker 1: what are you optimistic about? What are you pessimistic about?

914
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Speaker 1: When you look at the Senate map and sort of

915
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Speaker 1: what do you think the landscape is?

916
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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 10: I mean, here's I guess what I think about. Why

918
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Speaker 10: do we accept the map as being so bad? This

919
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Speaker 10: is the second consecutive year that the map is bad.

920
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Speaker 10: And the map is bad because we have effectively chosen

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Speaker 10: as a party to be non competitive in states that

922
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Speaker 10: just a heartbeat a go we were competitive in, right,

923
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Speaker 10: We were electing Democratic senators in Nebraska, in Missouri, in Iowa,

924
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Speaker 10: and now those are states that we consider ourselves to

925
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Speaker 10: have no shot name. We've got to fix that as

926
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Speaker 10: a party, like we can't be perfect on the Senate

927
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Speaker 10: map every year. And that's a really hard conversation for

928
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Speaker 10: our party to have, but it's really really necessary.

929
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Speaker 3: But that's the end.

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Speaker 1: Amanda Littman run for something theory, which is you have

931
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Speaker 1: to run in every state, no matter if you And

932
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Speaker 1: that's why in some ways the Tennessee three are so important,

933
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Speaker 1: right because she's running for Senate in a state that's hard, that's.

934
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Speaker 10: True, But we ran a lot of good candidates that

935
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Speaker 10: lost in those states. It's not just that we're lacking

936
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Speaker 10: the infrastructure, it's that we are refusing to actually go

937
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Speaker 10: and talk to Trump voters.

938
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Speaker 5: We were refusing to build a coalition.

939
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Speaker 10: That is big tent because and I understand this, because

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Speaker 10: we don't want Yeah, we want purity on choice, we

941
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Speaker 10: want purity on guns, we want purity on climate.

942
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Speaker 5: And if we were you know, a bit of the old.

943
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Speaker 10: Kind of democratic party where the tent pole in the

944
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Speaker 10: middle was economic populism, right, and we permitted people who

945
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Speaker 10: might disagree with us on social and cultural issues to

946
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Speaker 10: be inside the tent. I think we have a lot

947
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Speaker 10: more states in play. I think we'd probably end up

948
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Speaker 10: passing a lot more legislation. That's the challenge ahead of us.

949
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Speaker 10: That's the big challenge. That's not something we saw between

950
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Speaker 10: now and the end of the year. But we can't

951
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Speaker 10: continue to be perfect in the way that we have

952
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Speaker 10: the last couple of cycles in the Senate map.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the polling and you look at

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Speaker 1: the down ballot polls, like the guye egos and those

955
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Speaker 1: guys are all really doing well, it seems like a

956
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Speaker 1: lot of the Republican Senate pix were trumpy again.

957
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're they're trumpy. They aren't from the.

958
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Speaker 3: States, right, like Eric hoof Day.

959
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Speaker 10: Yeah, And I mean, you know the guy in Montana,

960
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Speaker 10: the guy Nevada. These are all the guy in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Frankly, Dave McCormick.

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Speaker 5: Dave McCormick is my constituent. Day McCormick is my constituent.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, I mean, actually, it feels like they are

964
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Speaker 10: incapable of finding anyone to run for Senate that is

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Speaker 10: from the state that they're running in. And like, that's

966
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Speaker 10: not a five point swing, but it's a one or

967
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Speaker 10: two point swing, and that's what a lot of these

968
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Speaker 10: races are going to come down to.

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Speaker 3: So interesting.

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Speaker 1: One other thing when you think about this election, like,

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Speaker 1: what do you think will be the thing that gots

972
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Speaker 1: Vice President Harris over the finish line?

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Speaker 5: Well, we're just going to expand the electorate.

974
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Speaker 10: We didn't have that opportunity before, and we now have

975
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Speaker 10: the chance to bring a ton of people who have

976
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Speaker 10: never voted or haven't voted in a long time.

977
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Speaker 5: To the polls.

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Speaker 10: Whether it's because they're just loving the vibe of a positive, right,

979
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 10: joyous party or because the choice issue is just much

980
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Speaker 10: more potent and real when you have a woman at

981
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Speaker 10: the top of the ticket. Trump also may just be

982
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Speaker 10: losing it a little bit, and we may see his

983
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 10: rap just get so tired that that surge turnout he

984
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Speaker 10: used to bring with him just isn't there.

985
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Speaker 3: That's my theory of the case. A little bit too

986
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Speaker 3: so interesting.

987
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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. Good to see you.

988
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Speaker 3: Good to see you.

989
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Speaker 2: Jocelyn Benson is the Secretary of State Michigan.

990
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Speaker 3: Why I'm back, Jocelyn Benson.

991
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Speaker 6: I'm just fangirling right now.

992
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: This is insane.

993
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: You're like a serious secretary of state, and I'm like,

994
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Speaker 1: we have a fake microphone. So you're here for ask

995
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: politics with us. We're doing our quick DNC interviews. State

996
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: is like a large job with a lot of parts

997
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: to it, but voting is a big part of it.

998
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 11: And the chief Democracy officer for the State of Michigan,

999
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 11: I consider it my prime responsibility to make sure everyone

1000
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Speaker 11: knows how to access their ballots, their voice, their vote, and.

1001
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 6: Can trust the results of the election. So whatever they

1002
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 6: may be right.

1003
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: So Republicans are basically a war with voting right now.

1004
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Speaker 3: I know it.

1005
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 6: Feels like that.

1006
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 12: I think it's a war with the truth, really, right,

1007
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 12: and a war with the rule of law and a

1008
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 12: rule of the basic promise in America that we the

1009
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 12: people rule to day, that we have control over in autonomy,

1010
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 12: over our bodies and access to reproductive health, that we

1011
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 12: have control over our voices and can exercise.

1012
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 6: Them as we can see fits. So it's a multifront war.

1013
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: So one of the issues right now in Georgia is

1014
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: there's some anxiety that there may be parts of Georgia

1015
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: that won't certify, or that there's some kind of optional

1016
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: certification process.

1017
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 3: How worried are you about that in Georgia?

1018
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: And then also can you extrapolate and talk about Michigan.

1019
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 11: I have a lot of faith in the professional election

1020
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 11: workers in Georgia as well as the Secretary of State

1021
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 11: to follow the law and.

1022
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 6: Do the job right.

1023
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 11: It's important, particularly in places where people have been fed

1024
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 11: lies about our elections that have damaged their confidence in

1025
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 11: the process, to be able to ask questions about the

1026
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 11: process and have them answered. However, we have to make

1027
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 11: fact based, evidence based decisions as we move forward, and

1028
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 11: those usually lead to certification. And so if we veer

1029
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 11: away from that, which is what twenty twenty was about.

1030
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 11: Twenty twenty was about baseless challenges to election results, no facts,

1031
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 11: no evidence. So we have to always delineate between those

1032
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 11: two things, but make sure that if there is no

1033
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 11: evidence of wrongdoing, we should be certifying the election, and

1034
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Speaker 11: that is the ministerial duty of election certification boards.

1035
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 3: What is voting in Michigan like because every state is different.

1036
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Speaker 11: Well, according to the Brennan Center, which released a report

1037
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Speaker 11: last week about the differences in battleground states election policies

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Speaker 11: between twenty twenty and twenty twenty four, Michigan is the

1039
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Speaker 11: only one of the six battleground states that has dramatically

1040
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 11: expanded access to the vote, in part because voters demanded

1041
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Speaker 11: that we now have nine days of early voting in Michigan.

1042
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 11: In other states like Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, you saw our

1043
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 11: restriction on the right to vote, and so we're proud

1044
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 11: of what that represents. We're proud that we listen to

1045
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 11: the will of the people. And my hope is that

1046
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 11: other states will recognize that it's good for business to

1047
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 11: have a healthy democracy, and they should listen to voters

1048
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 11: who seek to amplify their voices and have access because

1049
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 11: it makes us all better.

1050
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Speaker 1: Right now, Michigan is such an interesting state because you

1051
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: have this tri factor of women leaders. You've done a

1052
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: lot of amazing stuff. You have parts of Michigan that

1053
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: are super liberal. You have the Michigan militia. I mean,

1054
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: talk to me about what the state looks like on

1055
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: the ground, what you're seeing. I mean, you're probably in

1056
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: every part of the state.

1057
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Speaker 6: I am as the Secretary of State.

1058
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Speaker 11: I'm also the Chief Motor Vehicle Officer, which makes you

1059
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 11: very popular. But we have actually reformed the DMV to

1060
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 11: make it easy, user friendly, and efficient and in my view,

1061
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 11: best in the country. That said, I have one hundred

1062
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 11: and thirty offices all across the state, so I get

1063
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Speaker 11: a really close to the ground view of what it's

1064
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Speaker 11: like in our northernmost most rural areas as well as

1065
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Speaker 11: in our most urban and how to meet the needs

1066
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Speaker 11: of every citizen and every voter. What I've seen in

1067
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Speaker 11: this role is how important it is to ensure everyone

1068
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 11: has educated and engaged and informed. And there's a lot

1069
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 11: that stands in the way of that in these noisy times,

1070
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Speaker 11: not the least of which are candidates who continue to

1071
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 11: tell lies and show up in Michigan and few more

1072
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 11: lies about crime rates and all the rest that just

1073
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 11: aren't based in fact. So the job of citizens in Michigan,

1074
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 11: it's really the job of all of us right now,

1075
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 11: is to become staunch ambassadors for democracy, for truth, for

1076
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 11: the law, and for making sure that no one can

1077
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Speaker 11: come into our state and lie to us about our

1078
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 11: rights and about our freedoms.

1079
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Speaker 3: Are you seeing yard signs?

1080
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Speaker 6: Yes, all over.

1081
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Speaker 11: I've seen Harris, I've seen Trump, I've seen that's probably.

1082
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we haven't seen too many.

1083
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Speaker 11: Are okay, But but I mean, look, it's hard to

1084
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 11: say in different parts of the state.

1085
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Speaker 6: I mean, look, Michigan's a purple state.

1086
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Speaker 11: We've got people on both sides of the aisle, people

1087
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 11: on both sides of the spectrum. And so we want

1088
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 11: everyone to know that their elections are going to be certified,

1089
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 11: that the integrity of our elections will be secure. But

1090
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Speaker 11: at the same time, it's important for everyone to know

1091
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Speaker 11: that in Michigan and Georgia and Arizona, in many parts

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Speaker 11: of the nation, there is a divide. And that's why

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Speaker 11: in this moment, we need candidates and leaders who will

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Speaker 11: bring us together over that divide, more than to continue

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Speaker 11: to divide us further.

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Speaker 1: And are there any young candidates where you're seeing interesting

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Speaker 1: staff or activists or what are.

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Speaker 3: You seeing on the ground in Michigan that we should

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Speaker 3: know about.

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Speaker 11: I think young voters are incredibly engaged. What I've also

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Speaker 11: frankly seen as a lot of business leaders in local

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Speaker 11: chambers of commerce really investing in our future and in

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Speaker 11: making sure they are also a part of defending in

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Speaker 11: democracy In this moment, it's been really inspiring to see

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Speaker 11: business leaders recognize that healthy democracy means a healthy economy,

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Speaker 11: and they've been particularly notably more engaged than ever before

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Speaker 11: at using and levering their positions to ensure citizens are

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Speaker 11: engaged with accurate information about our elections.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of amazing, it.

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Speaker 11: Is, Yeah, and I think we'll continue to see young

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Speaker 11: people stay engaged.

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Speaker 6: I think that's another big focus.

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Speaker 11: There are one point eight million eligible voters in Michigan

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Speaker 11: who are eighteen to twenty nine, and only eight hundred

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Speaker 11: thousand voted in twenty twenty, so that's a full million eligible.

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Speaker 11: Most are registered voters who would like to see become engaged.

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Speaker 11: Many of them are not in college, many of them

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Speaker 11: are working or in apprenticeship programs. So we've been reaching

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Speaker 11: out to unions and others that have those programs and

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Speaker 11: employers to make sure we're engaging every young person in

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Speaker 11: deciding our future together.

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Speaker 3: That's so important and amazing.

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Speaker 11: The women in Michigan get it done. But it's important

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Speaker 11: to note that what high voter turnout means is a

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Speaker 11: more representative democracy. You have more voices at the table,

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Speaker 11: you have more leaders that are more likely to represent

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Speaker 11: the diversity of our state and our country. And that's

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Speaker 11: really the Michigan story over these last few years. Yes,

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Speaker 11: women are leading our state and we're doing a great

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Speaker 11: job right now, but we also have and we also

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Speaker 11: have so many more leaders of color and leaders of

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Speaker 11: different community. These Jewish communities, Arab communities, Latino communities, African

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Speaker 11: American communities all have a seat at the table because

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Speaker 11: of our pro democracy policies.

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Speaker 1: Ken Harris wins some of these undeclared voters.

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Speaker 11: I think every time you can make clear the democracy

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Speaker 11: and our reproductive freedoms and a number of other freedoms

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Speaker 11: are on the ballot in a very real way this year,

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Speaker 11: then we have an opportunity to frame the choice in

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Speaker 11: a way that I think everyone should get behind, even

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Speaker 11: you know, the Republican voters in parts of the state

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Speaker 11: who also want to see a country where women have

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Speaker 11: freedom and our right.

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Speaker 6: To vote is protected.

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Speaker 11: So if we can stay focused on the issues and

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Speaker 11: the truth and what's at stake, I think you'll see

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Speaker 11: a broad coalition in support of those policies.

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Speaker 3: So good, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 6: Honored to be here, An, I'll come back anytime. Thank

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Speaker 6: you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Congresswoman Susan del Bennet represents Washington's first congressional district and

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Speaker 2: shares the DCC.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Fast Politics.

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Speaker 3: Congresswoman Susan del Banner.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 8: Thanks, great to be here at convention.

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Speaker 3: Now this is your super Bowl, right, it is.

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Speaker 8: The super Bowl, and it kind of feels like that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, it's hard to excitement, except we're the

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Speaker 8: one the one difference. We are absolutely all on the

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Speaker 8: same team.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's true. There's only one team here. So you

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Speaker 1: lead the Democratic Congressional Committee which meet which is tasked

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Speaker 1: with flipping the House of Representatives, which seems very possible

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Speaker 1: in this environment. So talk to me about what this

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Speaker 1: landscape looks like and what you are focused on. I

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Speaker 1: want to also add that, like you guys have seemed

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Speaker 1: so laser focused and so organized and so, you know,

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Speaker 1: just really on it.

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Speaker 3: So tell me what you're focused on.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, well, I am laser focused on making sure we

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Speaker 8: take back the majority in the House, that we make

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Speaker 8: Kakim Jeffries the next Speaker of the House. And you know,

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Speaker 8: we have incredible opportunities. I always remind folks that the

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Speaker 8: House is very different. We have a lot of races

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Speaker 8: across the country, and we're everywhere. You know, the Senate

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Speaker 8: may be focused on a few key races. We have

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Speaker 8: races in New York and California and Iowa and Alabama

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Speaker 8: and Nebraska, Oregon all over the place. Because we have

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Speaker 8: you know, there's four hundred and thirty five races going on.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about the Biden district races, the races

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Speaker 1: where the Democrats lost the congressional seat but Biden won. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and so there are like about five of those in

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Speaker 1: New York and five of them in California.

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Speaker 8: We have them across the country, but the majority area, Yes,

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Speaker 8: the big ones are in states in California and New York.

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Speaker 3: Let me rephrase it, the states are really fucked up.

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Speaker 1: We're New York and California because those are blue states

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Speaker 1: where that should not happen.

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Speaker 8: Yes, we have a lot of races in California and

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Speaker 8: New York, and you know we're doing really well.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about some of those New York races. Okay,

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Speaker 1: John Avlon, John Avlon and Ericon. Now that is not

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Speaker 1: even a Biden district. That's an R plus three or something.

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Speaker 1: Is he on your Red to Blue list?

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Speaker 6: He is not.

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Speaker 8: He's on our We have districts that we are still watching.

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Speaker 8: District we call them districts in play in New York.

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Speaker 8: Three obviously was the first one, Tom Swasey. And then

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Speaker 8: the other Langa Island is Laura Gillan running in New

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Speaker 8: York for that's on our Red to Blue.

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Speaker 3: And who's she running against?

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Speaker 8: Ds Posito? And that's absolutely one that we can pick up.

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Speaker 8: And you'll remember d s Posito.

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Speaker 1: These Republicans will pretend to be Centrists, but they've all

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Speaker 1: voted to impeach Biden.

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Speaker 3: They've all voted, they.

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Speaker 8: All voted for Mike Johnson to be the most extreme

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Speaker 8: speaker ever in the House representative.

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Speaker 3: They are all to impeach.

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Speaker 8: Yes, there are no moderates left on the Republican side.

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Speaker 8: If you look in the House, across the board. Over

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Speaker 8: and over we have seen Republicans leave their party. You've

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Speaker 8: seen Republicans here at convention talking about they don't know

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Speaker 8: what's happened to their party. Yeah, the reality is that

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Speaker 8: the extremists have taken over. They're incapable of governing. It's

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Speaker 8: chaos and dysfunction. And so that's why the incredible candidates.

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Speaker 8: You look at New York, whether it's Laura Glyn, Monde Jones.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about Mondere Jones. He's on the red to blow.

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Speaker 8: He is.

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Speaker 3: Talk to me about mondere Seed.

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Speaker 8: You know monder Seed. This is also, you know, a

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Speaker 8: really important seat and a tough seat. It's a swing district.

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Speaker 8: But Mondere is doing an incredible job. It's a district

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Speaker 8: that absolutely is one that we can win. Mondarra is

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Speaker 8: doing a great job and really making sure that he's

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Speaker 8: holding Lawler who's running against accountable for being an extreme Republican.

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Speaker 8: He tries to paint himself as a moderate, but let's

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Speaker 8: be clear, there's nothing moderate. As we were just saying,

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Speaker 8: these are all folks who have continued to support the

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Speaker 8: kind of Republican agenda, and you've seen it here the

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Speaker 8: project kind of twenty twenty five agenda. That's the stark

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Speaker 8: difference in this campaign and why seats like these in

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Speaker 8: New York are so credible.

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Speaker 3: Is there a Buffalo's seat? Did I make that up?

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Speaker 8: Tim Kennedy? Just one that was an open seat, that

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Speaker 8: was a blue seat. Tim Kennedy's a new member of

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Speaker 8: Congress when Brian Higgins stepped down.

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Speaker 3: Now, talk to me about those California seats.

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Speaker 8: We can start in southern California. We have a bunch

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Speaker 8: of opportunities. Will Rollins running against Ken Calverty.

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Speaker 1: Will Rollins is a frequent guest of this podcast because

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Speaker 1: my father lives in Palmspreads and we love Will Rowland's

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Speaker 1: and that is a very flippable.

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Speaker 8: Seat, absolutely one. Will ran last time came just within

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Speaker 8: a handful of votes of winning that seat. He came

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Speaker 8: out the door right away the beginning of the cycle,

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Speaker 8: doing an incredible job, has a ton of support. Is

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Speaker 8: kind of like the perfect candidate you can find, incredible experience,

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Speaker 8: incredible connections to his community. He is doing amazing and

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Speaker 8: incredible opportunity to pick up a seat there. We've got

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Speaker 8: Derek Tran running against Michelle Steele. Also in southern California.

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Speaker 8: Derek's a great candidate running for him the first time.

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Speaker 8: Dave Minn is running to make sure that we keep

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Speaker 8: Katie Porter's seat. Wow, so that's an open seat.

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Speaker 3: It is a tough seat.

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Speaker 8: Also, that's a up. Dave Man is doing a great job.

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Speaker 8: We have George Whitesides running against Mike Garcia, also doing

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Speaker 8: an incredible job. We have Mike Levin, he's one of

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Speaker 8: our frontliners, so we're going to get re elected. Also

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Speaker 8: southern California, we have Riddy Sallas and Adam Gray running

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Speaker 8: in the Central Valley up north.

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Speaker 1: And this central Valley, I think for people who don't

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Speaker 1: totally know was where the uh what's his name who

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Speaker 1: used to be the Speaker of the House was from. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the last fashion of Republican is Kevin McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: That is that sort of last fashion.

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Speaker 1: But it is largely agricultural, and when you are worried

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Speaker 1: about agriculture, climate change is a big deal.

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Speaker 8: Well, and you know, without Kevin McCarthy, they're trying to

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Speaker 8: kind of help raise resources for the Republicans in this area.

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Speaker 8: They've also been struggling a lot more too, but again

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Speaker 8: more extreme than their district's great candidates. I mean, the

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Speaker 8: thing that differentiates our world versus their world is we

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Speaker 8: have independent mind and results oriented members of Congress and

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Speaker 8: candidates who want to go to Congress to get things done.

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Speaker 1: Will you talk to us about the sort of macro

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Speaker 1: of the Republican Congressional Committee versus Because Republicans have been

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Speaker 1: in power in Congress and they like lost a speaker,

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Speaker 1: then they couldn't find a speaker.

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Speaker 3: Than they had.

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Speaker 8: They threatened to shut down the government to default on

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Speaker 8: our dead then they kicked out their speaker and struggled

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Speaker 8: to pick up another one. They don't even agree with

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Speaker 8: each other, right.

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Speaker 3: What does their apparatus look like?

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Speaker 8: Well, they're struggling. We've been running ahead this whole cycle.

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Speaker 8: We just announced our numbers for last month. A d

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Speaker 8: triple c outraised the NRCC, our Republican counterparts.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 8: We raised seventeen point six million dollars last month, six

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Speaker 8: million more than the NRCC. We've got about twenty million

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Speaker 8: dollars more in the bank as we head into these

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Speaker 8: important last couple months of the election, and our candidates

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Speaker 8: are out raising their Republican opponents also. So as a committee,

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Speaker 8: we're doing well. To support our candidates across the country.

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Speaker 8: Our candidates are doing well, our incumbents are doing well

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Speaker 8: because really this election is about our rights, our freedoms,

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Speaker 8: our democracy, and our future. And people know what's at stake,

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Speaker 8: and the American people are with us. They want governance

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Speaker 8: that works.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you, do you think your candidates

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Speaker 1: are running heead because their candidates are so good, because

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Speaker 1: their candidates are so bad, or because the issues, or

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Speaker 1: because of the sort of the vibes.

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Speaker 8: It's everything. Their candidates are extreme. We have districts like

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Speaker 8: in Pennsylvania ten, where we've got Scott Perry, one of

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Speaker 8: the most extreme members of an extreme body. We have

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Speaker 8: Danelle Stilson do an incredible job. That's a seat that

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Speaker 8: we can flip, and it's a more conservative seat, but

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Speaker 8: they're not extreme. So they have candidates and members of

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Speaker 8: Congress who are extreme. We also have folks who've seen

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Speaker 8: what Republicans have been doing. They are trying to take

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Speaker 8: away reproduct freedom. The majority of Americans across the country

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Speaker 8: support reproductive freedom. They are trying to gut social Security

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Speaker 8: and medicare, give tech freaks to the wealthy and well connected.

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Speaker 8: That also, the majority of America does not agree with that.

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Speaker 8: They want to see governance work. They want to see

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Speaker 8: us grow and strengthen the middle class. And that's not

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Speaker 8: a democratic statement. That's a statement of what the American

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Speaker 8: people want to see. And that's what our candidates and

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Speaker 8: our comments are talking about what we can actually do

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Speaker 8: to deliver what we've done, but also what more we

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Speaker 8: can do when we have the majority in the House.

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Speaker 1: One more question, Yes, Walls was the chair of the

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Speaker 1: governatorial the data goes. So that's a job that's kind

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Speaker 1: of the equivalent of the job you have. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: So tell us why you get that job. Soon to

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Speaker 1: be Speaker Jeffrees. Leader Jeffries asked me to do that job.

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Speaker 1: He asked me to do.

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Speaker 3: He asked you to do it because you're a team player.

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Speaker 8: And because you know my focus is I'm a data person.

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Speaker 8: I am laser focused on make sure we put the

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Speaker 8: right strategy to win. And you know I came to

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Speaker 8: Congress to get things done for my constituents too. It's

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Speaker 8: hard for us to do that when we have a

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Speaker 8: Republican majority that doesn't want to do anything. So one

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Speaker 8: of the most important things we can do is make

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Speaker 8: sure we win, we have a strong government majority, and

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Speaker 8: then we get back to work, make sure the People's

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Speaker 8: House is back to work for the American people.

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Speaker 3: Amazing. Thank you, hey, thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in

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