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Speaker 1: and it was a Happy Monday Night for the Texans

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Speaker 1: until about six minutes ago. Then it became a happy

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Speaker 1: Monday night for Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay buy Chicks.

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Speaker 5: background in John Malkovich losing his mind.

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Speaker 1: Check eating an Oreo cookie eating a ro COOKI checked out,

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Speaker 1: there's Bucky again.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: This throws The end of this game shows you everything

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Speaker 1: you need to know about the Texans and Baker Mayfield. Right, so,

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers give up a big punt return late.

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Speaker 1: The Texans go in and get a touchdown. Nick Chubb

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Speaker 1: looking like Nick Chubb of.

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Speaker 3: Three years ago, stumbling mumbling.

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Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers could do nothing offensively for the

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Speaker 1: entire second half. Baker Mayfield scrambles for fifteen yards on

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Speaker 1: a fourth down play and checking down gets the Bucks

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Speaker 1: they win the game. The final kickoff was the final

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Speaker 1: a win. Now this is look watching the second half

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Speaker 1: of this game. Right, First, we'll do the Texans and

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Speaker 1: we'll get to Mayfield the Bucks. This shows you the

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Speaker 1: two biggest strengths of the Texans, right when I told

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Speaker 1: you how much I liked them early this year, and

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Speaker 1: because they have they played an easy division, and their

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Speaker 1: defensive line and their defensive backs are top three units. Right,

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Speaker 1: that is awesome. Now I left out the linebackers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was running for his life there was He

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Speaker 1: couldn't go downfield at all. A few times he did

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Speaker 1: did the Buccaneers do? Hey, we're checking down, We're throwing

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Speaker 3: Well, I just did check into space.

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Speaker 5: making plays after the catch. And we watched that repeatedly,

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Speaker 5: that final drive masterclass, couple of scrambles for Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 5: But I mean they're covered up right, They're not clean

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Speaker 5: But where you look at it for Houston is it's

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Speaker 1: But they know where they're you know where they're going,

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Speaker 1: a huge stop by Tampa Bay. But really, I mean

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Speaker 1: We we talk a lot about guys and look, the

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Speaker 3: Uh. We we talk about guys.

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Speaker 1: Like Geno Smith and Sam Darnold, who hey, these are

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Speaker 1: because Darnold had great success last year, didn't even work

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Speaker 3: Right, so far mixed results for him.

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Speaker 1: Gino Smith backed, you know, bounced around as a backup

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Speaker 1: you get in that right system that works for you. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous because as much as we say Darnald did

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Baker Mayfield is a franchise quarterback

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Speaker 1: He's not someone that his skill set's going to suddenly

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Speaker 1: just deteriorate. Right, it's not somebody he's worried about his legs.

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Speaker 1: He's still mobile enough. But he has become a star.

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Speaker 1: He has become one of the top offensive offensive players

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Speaker 1: in fantasy. He's become one of the best, most dynamic

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Speaker 1: a masterstroke by him. How many quarterbacks would you see

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Speaker 1: he made right decision after right decision. No, even in

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Speaker 1: the second half when things aren't going that well, he's

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Speaker 1: make plays that aren't there. He did fumble, but it

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Speaker 1: was his own fault. He just knocked it out of

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Speaker 1: his own hand. Luckily Rashad White fell on it. But

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Speaker 1: this is the evolution of Baker Mayfield. And just watching

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Speaker 5: There'll be better days there. Mike Evans didn't have the

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Speaker 1: It's Baker Mayfield. Everybody exit albya Fresca exit swollen. Do

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Speaker 1: Did you bet the under for Baker Mayfield air yards

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Speaker 3: But I still think he doesn't get that hug.

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Speaker 1: We know one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: I think we really undervalue how good a quarterback he's become.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, they got a triage another offensive line

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Speaker 4: I think you would have to really be the right

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Speaker 4: confluence of events. I don't think. I don't think Mike

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Speaker 4: Brown like I just that would really surprise me if

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Speaker 4: he went out and got and did something like that.

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Speaker 4: And again, I just don't I don't know that it's

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Speaker 4: the greatest system or scheme fit in the world either.

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Speaker 4: But he is probably somewhere else by the deadline.

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Speaker 1: So now let's head to your neck of the woods.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to Jaden Daniels, who has the knees brain

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Speaker 1: and suddenly, boy does does he play? Is he out

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks? What's going to happen here? Like,

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Speaker 1: I can't believe the commanders are going to rush him

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Speaker 1: back in. Maybe we don't see him for a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think we will. They've got some recalibrating

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Speaker 4: to do there as well, and given the state of

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Speaker 4: their offensive line right now. I know there were some

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Speaker 4: people gushing about the rookie running back after week one,

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Speaker 4: but like you know, it was three yards and a

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Speaker 4: cloud of dust, and then he broke a late one.

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Speaker 4: You know, for forty some yards against a defense that

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Speaker 4: was pretty much at a gas. I just you know,

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Speaker 4: and now you know, I think actually were still going

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Speaker 4: to see a fair amount of the ball. Now he's hurt,

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Speaker 4: The defense isn't special. It was never going to be

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Speaker 4: a recreation of last year. But yeah, I think, look,

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Speaker 4: they could try to defend it all they want. They

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Speaker 4: play on a horse bleep field that a lot of

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Speaker 4: guys have gotten hurt on and are blamed for part

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Speaker 4: of the injury. So yeah, I think they need to

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Speaker 4: take the long view here and be really smart about this.

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Speaker 4: In the bottom line is this hasn't looked anything like

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Speaker 4: last year's offense.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, So a lot of questions about the let's keep

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Speaker 5: with the injury theme. JJ McCarthy now two to four

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Speaker 5: weeks high ankle spraying. The diagnosis looked pretty spry on

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Speaker 5: the last couple of plays, so years he theory's abound,

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Speaker 5: but now it becomes the backup show and seeds of

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Speaker 5: malcontendedness showing up in Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, he's the intangible, you know, mister

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Speaker 4: intangible but like and he certainly has some athleticism, but

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Speaker 4: in terms of being the purest thrower of the football

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Speaker 4: and understanding how to arca ball and put air under

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Speaker 4: it and touch and all that stuff and decision making

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Speaker 4: like you know, we do always asked the pen in Michigan,

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Speaker 4: and this is a big This was always going to

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Speaker 4: be a big jump and all that developmental time, and

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Speaker 4: he missed last year even just on the you know,

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Speaker 4: from a practice standpoint, it's significant. So you know, and

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Speaker 4: I think the world of O'Connell, but this was never

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Speaker 4: going to be I think a super easy transition for him,

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Speaker 4: especially coming off an injury. Uh. I don't have any

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Speaker 4: reason to believe that they're in any way, you know,

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Speaker 4: creating something here or or or faking it like I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's healthy and he's gonna have to

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Speaker 4: miss some time and that's unfortunate for them. But this

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Speaker 4: coach is invested in that quarterback and I think, like

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Speaker 4: I think he can be a winning quarterback because of

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Speaker 4: all the things they have cooking there and primarily because

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Speaker 4: of O'Connell. But don't it was never going to be

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Speaker 4: overnight like Sam Donald going from the vagabond to MVP

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Speaker 4: candidate like you did last year. This kid hasn't done

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Speaker 4: all the things and seen all the things and been

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Speaker 4: all the brutal all the things that Sam Donald has.

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Speaker 1: Jason locking for our guests, Jason Smith Mike Harmon, live

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Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, let's head

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Speaker 1: to the Eagles and the Chiefs. Now, I thought going

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Speaker 1: into this game, the Eagles are going to prove they

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Speaker 1: would be too much of the same team that won

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs aren't as good. They have a couple of

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Speaker 3: weapons out injured.

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Speaker 1: I know they're going to come back at some point, Jay,

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Speaker 1: but wow, man, that the chief I think the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: are in a lot of trouble.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Other team's got younger, more talent, did more athletic and

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Speaker 1: this might be I think this is the year where

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs go, oh wait a minute, Maybe that big

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Speaker 1: run we had we get passed by a lot of teams.

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Speaker 4: Now, I mean, I think we tend to forget that

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Speaker 4: there was a lull, even for the Patriots, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: if that's the camp, it was two dynasties and one

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Speaker 4: and one waned for a couple of years, never fell apart,

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Speaker 4: didn't fall off a cliff, you know, I know they

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Speaker 4: waited the playoffs for the year, you know, Brady towards

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Speaker 4: ACL but they weren't going to compete really for our

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Speaker 4: super Bowl. And then there was the second iteration. Then

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Speaker 4: I think in many ways there was even more mind

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Speaker 4: blowing in the first. I don't know if that's going

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Speaker 4: to happen for the Chiefs, but I do think we're

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Speaker 4: seeing the dip. And it's hard to come back from

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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl loss. And it's hard to come back

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Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl loss when one of the players

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Speaker 4: you're counting on most to comeback from injury and give

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Speaker 4: you an immediate shot in the arm contended to give

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Speaker 4: himself in legal trouble. And Xavier Worthy's a little guy

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Speaker 4: and there's always a high injury risk and the timing

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Speaker 4: of that couldn't be worse. And they're still trying to

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Speaker 4: reconfigure an offensive line. Run game has been getting systematically worse.

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Speaker 4: That's Rice got hurt early last season, you know, like

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Speaker 4: Kareem Hunt still being on the field that much for them.

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Speaker 4: I think they're really telling they've got a personnel issue

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Speaker 4: right about. At the Washington Post heading into this weekend,

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Speaker 4: thought they were in a bad spot against the Eagles,

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Speaker 4: begged people to just keep playing chiefs Onders, especially at home.

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Speaker 4: That's who they are and what they are right now.

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Speaker 4: They're still going to be a quality team. I think

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Speaker 4: they can still get into playoffs, but they might be

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Speaker 4: the third best team in that division, even with Denver

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Speaker 4: not looking like, you know, defensively, the team they were

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Speaker 4: a year ago. It's a brutal schedule and they're going

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Speaker 4: to be without those two playmakers for a while longer.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think everything is going to be a

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Speaker 4: struggle for them. I'll be fascinated to see what they

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Speaker 4: do by the trade deadline. I think their edge rush

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Speaker 4: group is looking pretty uh, pretty pedestrian at best. And

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Speaker 4: I think Chris Jones, you know this, this he might

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Speaker 4: be I think obviously his best just behind him, and

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Speaker 4: I think he might be fading. So yeah, Mahome some

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Speaker 4: only do so much. I mean, he want Mahomes a

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Speaker 4: run for a hundred yards a game now, Like, is

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Speaker 4: that where that's going?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna ask what are we gonna do? What

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Speaker 5: kind of odds can we get on him to lead

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Speaker 5: the team in rushing?

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Speaker 4: Jeez, Well it's all hands on deck. I mean, the

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Speaker 4: guy who'd probably be leading him in rushing honestly, that

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Speaker 4: Javier Worthy, that's just one more area where you know,

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Speaker 4: not having him on a jet sweep or you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean under round or reverse like you know,

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Speaker 4: Andy loves that stuff. So yeah, they're in a bad way.

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Speaker 4: They lost more people there, a lot of a lot

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Speaker 4: of determined people there. But there was that Patriots damp.

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Speaker 4: I mean there was a dip between the two cycles.

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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Jason Locke and four that is

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Speaker 1: at Jason Locke and or a Jay As always, buddy,

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time, enjoy the games, enjoy the betting. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next week.

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Speaker 4: Oh good, gentle, buddy, see it.

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Speaker 1: Look we'll get to the Chiefs coming up later on. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm your Chiefs whisperer. I told you it was

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Speaker 1: gonna be tough. I told hi, I'm stock up on mahomes,

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Speaker 1: stock down on.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: I could I could get barbecues, No I could go.

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Speaker 3: I could go to Memphis and I come up, I

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Speaker 3: come up with a tryangle offense and total I would

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Speaker 3: have that. Look.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's it's it's it's not anything against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: It's not something ah the Chiefs, but the Chiefs are older.

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Speaker 1: Other teams that are younger, more talented, more athletic, and

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Speaker 1: you see that the questions they have, they don't have

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Speaker 1: the weapons because if you're worthy is injured where she

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Speaker 1: Rice is still suspended. And Travis Kelcey does way too

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Speaker 1: much stuff during the week and not enough stuff on Sunday, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 3: He's yelling, he's yelling at his team in the first

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Speaker 3: half and who drops the big pass?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: That turns into an innerse that helps kill the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey, awful, awful optics for the Chiefs, awful optics

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Speaker 1: for Kelsey. That all the Yeah, I'm a star, a

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Speaker 1: star of a star. And look what's that.

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Speaker 3: It's like in Rocky Right when Rocky was running around

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Speaker 3: he was chasing the pigeons to catch him. Mister t

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Speaker 3: is all just in the gym and he's like Balboa, Balboa,

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Speaker 3: Balboa and it.

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Speaker 1: Was like okay because he went Hollywood's right, Yeah, Ravis Kelsey,

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Speaker 1: go on Hollywood and look what's that bad year? It's

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Speaker 1: not worked out, he's not had a great eas and

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Speaker 1: it's not started out well this year. His mistake contributed

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Speaker 1: to that loss yesterday. But it's an awful optic for

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, But the fall of Kelsey really mirrors and

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Speaker 1: stands for what we've seen from the Chiefs. They were

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Speaker 1: great for a long time. Now eventually they hit a

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Speaker 1: point where they get passed by and you see all

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Speaker 1: these other teams. They're the third most talented team in

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Speaker 1: the AFC West, third most talent, Tyam I.

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Speaker 5: Made a couple of things to it right. You don't

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Speaker 5: have anybody you trust in the run game. Pacheco is

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Speaker 5: clearly not the A list star.

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Speaker 3: That keep waiting for.

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Speaker 5: It's like Clyde Edwards Hilaire before in the same kind

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Speaker 5: of thing. Flashes but not consistency. With Mahomes, he's making

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Speaker 5: plays with his legs, but he's missing shots downfield. The

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Speaker 5: timing isn't there, And back to back week Kelsey inside

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Speaker 5: the ten yard line has had gaffs. This time it's

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Speaker 5: an interception. Back in week one, he had that one

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Speaker 5: where he did that little walkthrough scrape through the defense

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Speaker 5: and then didn't make a play on the ball, just

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Speaker 5: off his hands and falls incomplete. Should have been a

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Speaker 5: walk in touchdown. So the timing and consistency isn't there,

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Speaker 5: and you're not good enough to win in those margins

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Speaker 5: right now.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 3: Uh so we'll have.

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Speaker 1: More on the Khalil Mack injury that looked really bad

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Speaker 1: a few moments ago. Potential dislocated elbow. Uh not for

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Speaker 1: the squeamish. If you don't like to see stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: do not watch the replay. Yeah, trust me, you don't

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Speaker 1: need to see it.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 1: It's there if you want to, but you don't need

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Speaker 1: to see it again. We'll get an official update later on.

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Speaker 1: But wow, that certainly is what it looked like now

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Speaker 1: before you can do a big injury. I want to

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Speaker 1: say this because I got I got to give Steve

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Speaker 1: de Sager a lot of credit here because he found

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Speaker 1: this really really quickly.

652
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Speaker 3: So I told you the story a few minutes ago.

653
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Speaker 1: We talked about the big play in the NFL yesterday,

654
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Speaker 1: the recovered kickoff for a touchdown by the Seahawks.

655
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Speaker 3: Kay John, Yeah, I'm not gonna recover.

656
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Speaker 1: This well again, near and dear to my heart because uh,

657
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: freshman year of football, I recovered a fumble just like

658
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: that because the returner didn't know you had to grab it.

659
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: S thought it like a you could if it went

660
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: into the end zone, it would down it. Now this

661
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: is of you, No I wish now this is This

662
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: is back when the rule was until they changed it

663
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, where it was anything ten

664
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Speaker 1: yards down the team can get. Now obviously with the

665
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: way the.

666
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: Rules of changing, he got the zone.

667
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 4: The zone.

668
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: That's why you have the you know, that's why ten

669
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: yards is the on side kick.

670
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Speaker 1: And nobody knew the rule. And I knew it because

671
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: I said, because I had seen it not too long

672
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: before in the Giants game remember they played the Rams

673
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: and Film McConkie either grabbed it the one enrolled in

674
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: the end zone or recovered it in the end zone,

675
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: and so I knew the rule. So when I saw

676
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: that play yesterday, I.

677
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: Was like, oh man, I'm thinking back my glory.

678
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: Days Frenchman year, and I think, if only I had

679
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: let the ball roll into the end zone or push

680
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: it in the end zone recover, we had a touchdown, right,

681
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: never had a touchdown play. I played defense in high school,

682
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: so I remember there was such a big deal. Steve

683
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: Disager found the game on YouTube. It was the opening

684
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: kickoff of the game and it was Film McConkie who

685
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: knew the rule and ran down. Ball was landed at

686
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: the five, bounced over the returner's headed into the endzonew

687
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: the ball bounced the five yard line, that goes the

688
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: end zone. That's a live ball. Mcackie recovers it for

689
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: a touchdown. And here is the play by play.

690
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 7: Giants at three and one and the Rams at two

691
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 7: and two, and we're underweigh and Anaheim coming down to

692
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 7: the fire side and fumbled into the end zone and

693
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 7: falling on by one of the Giants.

694
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: And that is a touchdown.

695
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: He touched the ball in the field of play, did aj.

696
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: Jones let it go into the end zone and the

697
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: Giants fell on it for a touchdown.

698
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 8: Bill mccaucky number.

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Speaker 2: Eighty A little man from Maybe.

700
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 7: I couldn't believe that mean either he must totally unaware,

701
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 7: Frank of what he did.

702
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: He cannot need it.

703
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 7: You cannot touch the ball then allow it going to

704
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 7: the endzone without down eating yourself.

705
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: Steve, A way to go, said Vin Scully on the call,

706
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: an old slow roller down. Oh it gets by the returner.

707
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: Here comes Night in the Mets win.

708
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 8: I think there was Frank Leeber and Dick Vermeil.

709
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: Dick Vermeil on the call. It sounded like it sounded

710
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: like Vin in the beginning, like the first couple of

711
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: these ways. Wow, it's kind of sound because you get

712
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: that Vin's voice was a lot higher on on audio

713
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: videotape from the eighties.

714
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 8: People don't remember. Around nineteen eighty, Vince Gully was the

715
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 8: voice of CBS before Pat summerl.

716
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: He was doing NFA, he was doing Super Bowl, did.

717
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 8: The NFC Championship game. When Vermeil's Eagles went to the

718
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 8: Super Bowl.

719
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's right, that's right. I can't believe you

720
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: found that that fast. He's a wizard.

721
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 8: I'm the Internet. It's an amazing wow.

722
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: That's I mean. And the whole game is on there.

723
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Speaker 8: I got that, So let me say to anyone who

724
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 8: has old games on vhs, please put them online. That

725
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 8: was awesome to hear and great to see. It was

726
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 8: fun and they had the full game on there for

727
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Speaker 8: just a random Sunday afternoon.

728
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Speaker 5: Is Anaheim doesn't have all the commercials in it? Because

729
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 5: now I'm really going to go back, and.

730
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 8: I just watched the opening kick and then they missed

731
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 8: the extra point right after that, the short extra point back.

732
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Speaker 3: Every commercial was a Miller like commercial. That's people don't

733
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: know it. It's great. Two and a half minutes of

734
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: more light commercial in between the game.

735
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 5: Man, that was a lot of extra checks for x

736
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 5: NFL players that didn't make a lot of money during

737
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 5: their playing careers.

738
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Speaker 1: Come on, well, thank you Steve for let me let

739
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: me roll down that glory days there. Me and Phil McConkie,

740
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: now we had we had the whole time.

741
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 5: You just keep replaying your play in your head and

742
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 5: then you're like I could see you scanning the virtual

743
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 5: world for were there any girls I knew when?

744
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 4: No?

745
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: Honestly, Okay, that's the second thought. But the first thought

746
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: is all when I think about that play of someone,

747
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: I go, I wish I just either and I forget

748
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: if it stopped rolled, because I could have just pushed

749
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: it and tapped it into the end zone and had

750
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: a touchdown. I really that's what I think about. More like,

751
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: you know, I made a great play, but I could

752
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 1: have been better.

753
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 3: You could have had it so close.

754
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 5: That's all right, you You gave them their only opportunity

755
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 5: to score all day.

756
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 4: You know.

757
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: I also I also made a play very similar to

758
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 1: Ya Tittle in nineteen fifty one, week four, Steve forget find.

759
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: That one ken you Okay, no television back.

760
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 5: I start drawing pictures a title over there, Steve, that's

761
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 5: what he's trying to do.

762
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 3: I think it was against the Browns, the AI animators.

763
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: There you go.

764
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: Uh so again, we'll have more from the Monday Night game.

765
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: The second Monday Night game. The Chargers lead at ten

766
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: to six, eight goals to go to the second quarter.

767
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: So big news today, Big injury news today. Joe Burrow

768
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: out for what could wind up being the rest of

769
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: the season after a turf toe injury requiring surgery. The

770
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: time frame for this is about three months. And this

771
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: is if everything goes perfect, Joe Burrow could come back

772
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: with maybe a couple of weeks left in the regular season.

773
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: Now this is maybe we watch Jake Brown and come

774
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: off the bench yesterday and win the game. Bengals go

775
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: to two and zero, and now this week they get

776
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: a Vikings team that's gonna have Carson Wentz at quarterback.

777
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: So that fortuitous scheduling. The Bengals keep rolling seven's on it.

778
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: But this is now the thing for Joe Burrow. This

779
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: is anfit and and it sucks because he's one of

780
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: the most exciting quarterbacks in the game. But quite honestly,

781
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: now if you're the Bengals you sign him that big contract,

782
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: you have to understand and this is the comparison. This

783
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: is who Joe Burrow is. Joe Burrow is the Anthony

784
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: Davis of the NFL. As talented as he is, as

785
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: good as he is, you know, at some point he's

786
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: going to get hurt during the season. This is now

787
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: going to be the third season where he has lost

788
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: the majority of it to an injury of his six

789
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: year career, right, and it's happens too many times now

790
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: to say, well, this is again. Every other year he

791
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: gets hurt and you have to have the same outlook

792
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: for Joe Burrow if you're the Bengals that the Lakers

793
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: and now the Mavericks do for Anthony Davis. You know

794
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: he's going to get hurt. You just have to hope

795
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: that the injury is gonna come at a time where

796
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: it's not fatal for your team, where it's not boy,

797
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: he's out for the rest of the season. You have

798
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: to hope it's a point where he is at where

799
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: maybe he only misses a couple of games, maybe he

800
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: misses a month, maybe it's an advantageous part of the schedule.

801
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: He has time enough to come back for the postseason.

802
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: But you know he's going to be hurt. It's what it's.

803
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: Some guys, their bodies just can't take the riggers in

804
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: the pounding of the NFL, and three multi season injuries later,

805
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: for Burrow, that's kind of who he is. It sucks

806
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 1: that he's injury prone, but it's happened too many times

807
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: now so and near the Bengals, this is about as

808
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: close to fatal as it gets for a football term

809
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: for the season, because he's gonna miss the rest of

810
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: the way. Right, you're at at the at best. And look,

811
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: and the Bengals are a decent team. They have again

812
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: advantageous schedule. They win next week, they're three and zero.

813
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: We watched brown and come off the bench a couple

814
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: of years ago and play okay enough where he kind

815
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: of kept the Bengals around five hundred. Right, Okay, but

816
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: that's that's the best you can hope for. Now.

817
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: If you're the Bengals, we can have a five hundred

818
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 3: type season and maybe make a run at a wildcard

819
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: because you're not catching the Ravens, right, You're not gonna

820
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 3: You're not gonna be a team that runs away with

821
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 3: a division. This is now.

822
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: Maybe we can stay alive for a wild card and

823
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: if everything goes right for Joe Burrow, he can come

824
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: back for the last three games of the season, a

825
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: couple of games, maybe he's healthy. Maybe that's what it is.

826
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: But that's really how you have to look at every year.

827
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: And the Bengals have a great backup in places, got

828
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 1: a great backup system in place. Hey Brownie coming in, Okay,

829
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: that's great. He can come in, he can play him,

830
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: and but you have to you have to build in

831
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: that you know he's likely going to miss time for injury,

832
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: and that's just the way it is. Again, he's he's

833
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: the Anthony Davis of the NFL.

834
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it.

835
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 5: Immediately begets the other conversation about being top heavy and

836
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 5: spending all money on wide receivers and having to run

837
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 5: for your life behind a bad offensive line, things we've

838
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 5: talked about for years ad nauseum. I like that he

839
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 5: advocated for his guys, but also recognize in roster construction

840
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 5: where where you have those issues. Now for those that

841
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 5: are unaware, because turf tow doesn't sound like much right now,

842
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 5: we're talking about levels and meeting and getting in for

843
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 5: a quick surgery means it's a lot of pain. I

844
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 5: know that's been discussed a lot with former players of

845
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 5: our right. Which of the seemingly bogus injuries that that

846
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 5: you had was the worst and and turf toe gets

847
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 5: cited often so spraying of this soft tissue around the

848
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 5: base of the big toe hyper extension, and then we

849
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 5: get into the degree severity and how much pressure you

850
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 5: could put on can you play through the pain whatever.

851
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 5: In this case, it requires surgery. So out he goes.

852
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 5: Browning leads them on a ninety two yard drive down

853
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 5: the stretch. So if you're in those Jacksonville meeting rooms,

854
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 5: you had this game backup quarterback. He got him three

855
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 5: times early and then he's able to or engineer a

856
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 5: ninety two yard drive to.

857
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 3: Kinish stage out.

858
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 4: Come on.

859
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: It's not like Liam Cohene and Trevor Lawrence are yelling

860
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: at each other. Come on, man, Oh wait, sorry, sorry.

861
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 5: A lot of young quarterbacks waving off their coaches this

862
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 5: week in the National Football League, and that one being

863
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 5: the most egregious, but a game that they had and

864
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 5: they gave away. So the Bengals steal one here, and

865
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 5: it'll be curious to watch as you go forward. I mean,

866
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 5: Yoshivash becomes a guy that you start looking at on

867
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 5: the waiver wire because he'd been working with Browning a

868
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 5: little bit. Jamar Chase clearly suffered no ill effects in

869
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 5: the high time caught twenty eight passes yesterday exactly well,

870
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 5: but just saying normally like this guy's gonna go out

871
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 5: there and keep winging. It is the point, right, It's

872
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 5: not suddenly there're gonna be a shrinking violet offense where

873
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 5: you don't have a guy that has the ability to

874
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 5: stretch and utilize your playmakers. It's not like you're gonna

875
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 5: play the Jaguars every game, but the fact that he

876
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 5: came in and immediately started firing at all cylinders. You're

877
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 5: gonna take your shots, the good and the bad, but

878
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 5: you're feeling like you're in a pretty good spot there offensively.

879
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 5: To keep it rolling to your point about the injuries,

880
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 5: you know, the old I hate to say, I told

881
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 5: you so, going back to those poor Bengals fans walking

882
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 5: out all happy and smiley after losing to the Rams

883
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 5: and the Super Bowl.

884
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: We're gonna get back there, that's no problem. Football don't

885
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: work that way.

886
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: And now you're you're looking at it year over year

887
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: of all right, you got to make sure you got

888
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: that room back up room in order. And now you've

889
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: got to go tighten up the the other parts of

890
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: the the operations because there is a decided drop off.

891
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: I don't care what Browning did in one game, you're.

892
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 5: Not getting the Burrow that we've seen as a wizard

893
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 5: on the field in these other seasons. So you're gonna

894
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 5: have to shore things up. And I think your GM,

895
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 5: your ownership, it's now become imperative of trying to make

896
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 5: sure you've got a more well rounded, deeper ball club.

897
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 5: And you know, and it's not like when Browning came

898
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 5: in all of a sudden he was tearing it up. No, no,

899
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 5: he struggled, but he was able to move the team

900
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 5: well enough. Look, Cincinnati is talented, and they're talented enough

901
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 5: with weapons, Hey, they can make a wild card like

902
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 5: this is not this doesn't end the season. Still brown

903
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 5: You're okay.

904
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: This now makes you think, okay, can we stay afloat

905
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: and hope that he comes back?

906
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 4: Right?

907
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: And you're hoping hoping up kind of like a couple

908
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: of years ago when Rogers tore his achilles and the Jets,

909
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: I all stay in it. Maybe by December I'll come

910
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: back because he had that fusion surgery and oh well

911
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: he said he was coming back returned. Like that's kind

912
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 1: of where you're at. A few the Bengals R, Hey,

913
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: stay afloat. Maybe we still have a big season. We

914
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: still have a talented team. The division isn't that great.

915
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: The Steelers clearly aren't that good. The Browns are terrible.

916
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe, maybe, but but it's not like Browning

917
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: is someone who's gonna come into a three four touchdowns

918
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: a week. That's not gonna happen.

919
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 5: No, it's funny though, Like remember that Aaron Rodgers talk

920
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 5: though of whatever healing bros. Is, Like, I want that documentary?

921
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 5: What kind of mystics was he going to do that?

922
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 5: There was even that talk.

923
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: You know what, when when a guy gets hurt the

924
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: first time, it's it's the old rule. And this is

925
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: this is one of the one of the NFL rules

926
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: that doesn't change regardless as to to how you subscribe

927
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: to things. Is guy gets hurt the first time, you

928
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: look forward to him coming back. Guy gets hurt a

929
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: second time, missing a lot of time, and you say, okay,

930
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: what's he gonna be like when he gets back. Guy

931
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: gets hurt a third time, it's okay, whatever he brings

932
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: us now the rest of his career as a bonus

933
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: because he can't say. But when it's a quarterback, it's different.

934
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: It's different because he's your he is your franchise, and

935
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: he is a guy you paid a lot of money too.

936
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: He's not someone he's not a defensive tackle. You can

937
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: move on from gonna go boy, the guy so talented,

938
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: but just every other year we wind up not having

939
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: him for the vast majority of the season. It's much

940
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: different for Joe Burrow, and that's why you have to

941
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: build in. Just like when you have when you have

942
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: a Hey, you got to build in. These guys are

943
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: gonna get hurt and you just have to figure out

944
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: away when it does.

945
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 3: Joelle Embiid same thing. He's gonna get hurt.

946
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: Just have to hope that it's not that bad the

947
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: time away, that they he can get back, stay healthy

948
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: the rest of the way and he avoids injury the

949
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: rest of the season.

950
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 3: That's kind of where you're at for Joe Burrow, and

951
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: that's unfortunately going to be the rest of his career

952
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: how you think about it.

953
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 5: With the Bengal number of leg injuries, go back to

954
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three where he had that wrist injury that

955
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 5: impacted him. So certainly it becomes one of those great

956
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 5: medical charts or the wacky doctors game operation, depending on

957
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 5: which way you want to go as to which part

958
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 5: of his body is lighting up on the board right now.

959
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Jason Smith

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00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,320
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961
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963
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964
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974
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: So it is over in Vegas.

975
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: Finally, we have Monday Night Football to break down two games.

976
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: The Chargers hold on to beat the Raiders by the

977
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: final score of twenty to nine. It is a two

978
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: and oh start for the Chargers. And the first thing

979
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say is this, You know, I think the

980
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: Chargers will go to the AFC Championship.

981
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 4: Kip.

982
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: Their defense looks fantastic, right, Yes, you lose Mac tonight

983
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: probably for the season. Looked like it was a dislocate

984
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: lose tonight, Uh TJ clearly. Uh you probably don't want

985
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: to see the video it's out there, but uh yeah,

986
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: I'd leave that probably dislocated elbow. But this Argers defense

987
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: is legit. Three interceptions for Gino Smith, and really, I

988
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: think the guy made a business decision on fourth and five,

989
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: with a couple of minutes left to throw the ball

990
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: fifteen yards out of bounds and said, hey, I gotta throw.

991
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: It up in the middle of the field. I mean,

992
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 3: I gotta say.

993
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 5: If he doesn't get asked that first or second question

994
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 5: in the post game, what do you do?

995
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 3: Then then everybody in that media room should be fired.

996
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: What do you do it? That throw is fifteen yards

997
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 3: out of bounds? Did all you couldn't get was fifteen

998
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: yards ahead of your receiver? Fifteen yards?

999
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: It was a.

1000
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 3: Disass throw it to the middle. Throw it to I mean,

1001
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 3: do you been doing the whole game tow did Jacoby Myers?

1002
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: Maybe we'll get a deflection in this one. Bounce back

1003
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: to your receiver.

1004
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: Really, I think the guy made a business decision to

1005
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: not throw his fourth interception the night.

1006
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 3: I'm not throwing four not doing it.

1007
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 5: Not throwing no way those fours up man, No, not

1008
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 5: doing it.

1009
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 3: So this is this is how good the Chargers are.

1010
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: They're still not running the football well. Right.

1011
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: They tried to give the ball to Murray and Hampton.

1012
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: You think, okay, they're gonna put the the hammer down

1013
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: and win this game, and he fumbles and the Raiders

1014
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: take over again again. The one thing I can ding

1015
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: the Chargers on we'll get to in a second. But

1016
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: they're still not running the football well. And they look really,

1017
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: really good. Justin Herbert looks fantastic. He's got these are

1018
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: central casting number one, number two, number three wide receivers.

1019
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 1: He's got Lad McConkie, who is a clear number one

1020
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: that can get open on any play. You have Quenton Johnston,

1021
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: who may never be the guy you drafted him to

1022
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: be in the first round a couple of years ago,

1023
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: but is he a really good number two? Yes, broke

1024
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,479
Speaker 1: past the defense for a sixty yard touchdown tonight. Quentin

1025
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: Johnson is a terrific number two. And you have Keenan

1026
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: Allen who looks like he never left right, not the

1027
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: same guy, but still as the number three threat. Now

1028
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: touchdown early on the security blanket for Herbert like he

1029
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: was for Thirs. This is all you need. The Chargers

1030
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: look terrific. The only thing I can tell you is,

1031
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: and this is the one thing I can say. First

1032
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Yeah, I'd like to see them be

1033
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: able to finish an opponent when they get a chance to. Right,

1034
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I can say, Hey, finish, because

1035
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: tonight they should have finished the Raiders. Sure, but they did.

1036
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: The Raiders hung around for a long time. They're on

1037
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: the two yard line. You gotta punch that ball in.

1038
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: Go up twenty seven to six games over, No, couldn't

1039
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: do it at twenty to nine. All right, we're gonna

1040
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: get the ball back, We're gonna run clock, and we're

1041
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: gonna win that. Nope, Amaron Hnton fumbles. You gotta have

1042
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: another defensive stand. Luckily, your defense is that good and

1043
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: you're able to have that defensive stand.

1044
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: But that's the only thing.

1045
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: And I'm kind of nitpicky through two games, but that's

1046
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 1: the only thing I could say is that. Boy, I'd

1047
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: like to see the Chargers finish more. If they could

1048
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: run the football better, they will probably be able to

1049
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: finish a little bit better, But I'll completely take where

1050
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: the Chargers are right now because they look so good

1051
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: through the first.

1052
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see what happens for Jesse Minter's defense going forward.

1053
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: Khalil Mack will be gone.

1054
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 5: And you know we watched certainly through the first two weeks,

1055
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 5: you played two of the top tight ends. Whatever you

1056
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 5: think of Travis Kelsey's still in the upper echelons of

1057
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 5: tight ends week one and then you go week two

1058
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 5: and Brock Bowers, I know he was a little bit

1059
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 5: dinged up coming into the game, but he played in

1060
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 5: Derwin James erase his tight end. So there's your fantasy

1061
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 5: advice going forward, so long as he's on the field,

1062
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 5: and certainly their defense goes as he does. Right you

1063
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 5: saw him drifting back and coming in with the tip

1064
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 5: on that third interception when they were getting the ball.

1065
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 5: Did Jacoby Myers look like he was open. Nope, there's

1066
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 5: Derwin James to make the tip and create the turnover.

1067
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 5: Once again, the run game will get there, right panic

1068
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 5: buying slash selling in fantasy land coming off of here,

1069
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 5: both for Hampton and Genty, Genty can't stay on the

1070
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 5: field because he can't pass block. He wants no part

1071
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 5: of it, which is interesting because he's a guy that

1072
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 5: seems like he runs out of his way to create

1073
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 5: contact as a runner coming up at you. But for Hampton,

1074
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 5: it'll take time. You'll get there. Remember the offensive line

1075
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 5: still a work in progress, having lost for Sean Slater

1076
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 5: right before the season, so you're still adjusting a little

1077
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 5: bit there the handoff that was botched, Give a little

1078
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 5: bit to Herbert getting that a little too high up

1079
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 5: in the bread basket and Hampton looking up and it's like,

1080
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 5: you know, the scene is Crosby is standing right there.

1081
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: That's what I gotta say.

1082
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 5: It's like the scene in Jaws where Richard Dreyfus suddenly

1083
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 5: is like turns around trying to figure out where the

1084
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 5: shark is.

1085
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 3: Oh damn it. There it is, right at the cage. Yeah,

1086
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: that was it.

1087
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 5: There's Max to Crosby ready to hammer you before you're

1088
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 5: even able to put the ball away. So yeah, I

1089
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 5: mean the timing and continuity on that'll be better. But

1090
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 5: to your point about the receivers, you got three guys,

1091
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 5: and now you add Trey. Harris has a little extra

1092
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 5: thing to sprinkle in for a couple of targets downfield.

1093
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 5: He had to catch a twenty four yards. You got

1094
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 5: a lot that you're loving here because justin Herbert played

1095
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 5: from a pretty clean pocket most of the night. So offensively,

1096
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 5: it'll click. Defensively, we'll see how you account for the

1097
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 5: loss of Mac. But these guys did a hell of

1098
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 5: a job. I mean, Henley was fantastic, right. I mean,

1099
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 5: he's showing up all over Las Vegas right now, he's

1100
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 5: at the Sphere, and then he's making plays here at Allegiant.

1101
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, I.

1102
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 3: Mean, look, there's a reason why, because you know I

1103
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 3: picked the Chargers go to the ANFC chan Yeah, I understand,

1104
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: did that right?

1105
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think Frostburg must have made some threats. He's

1106
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: gonna be so mad as the season goes off. But look,

1107
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: the defense is legit and Herbert reminding everyone this is

1108
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: the player I was.

1109
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: Well.

1110
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: I remember Jim Harbaugh kept saying all off season, my

1111
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: job is to get him to the Hall of Fame.

1112
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: And that's a great thing to say, you know what

1113
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: I mean, though, Like, but that's a guy where I generally,

1114
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean, unless he's talking about how his roster was

1115
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: constructed and wins were garnered in Michigan, I believe him.

1116
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 3: I look, look all.

1117
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 5: Of that stuff. I mean, I take with a great assault.

1118
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,479
Speaker 5: But when he says he wants Justin Herbert to be great, yeah,

1119
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 5: I believe him. Well, I really hope he also realized.

1120
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: You know, after coming in, and you could tell the

1121
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: beginning when he got the job, it was I didn't

1122
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: know Justin Herbert would still be the quarterback this year

1123
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: because it seemed like I want to build the team

1124
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: a certain way. I want to build it with a

1125
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: sledgehammer running game, and didn't really feel like he was

1126
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: all in on Herbert. Now, Herbert wasn't quite the same

1127
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: quarterback when when Harbaugh came in as he was in

1128
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: the very early in the earlier parts of his careers. Think, ah,

1129
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: did Herbert kind of peak? Is He's still great and

1130
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: now you're seeing he's getting back to being that player

1131
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: that he was. They won the first two games this

1132
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: year on Herbert's right arm. Had a rough start tonight

1133
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: through most of the first quarter. Guess what didn't matter.

1134
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: He was able to come back and he was I

1135
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: think you go fourteen out of fifteen his.

1136
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 5: Next fifteen, Yes, he had all run where suddenly he

1137
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 5: was fifteen to twenty for the game.

1138
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't been this guy in a few years.

1139
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: And now look at where Herbert is now. He may

1140
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: not be ever back to throwing thirty eight touchdowns winning

1141
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: passing championships, but last year twenty three touchdowns three picks.

1142
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: I get you probably more this year on the touchdown perspective,

1143
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: I se him close to thirty touchdowns. I can see that,

1144
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: and and the wins are gonna come. But this clearly

1145
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: this Charger team is terrific. I mean, I feel like

1146
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: so many years we've fallen for the talent of the Chargers,

1147
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: how good they are, and they fall short. But with

1148
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: Hardbaugh and this team being now remade in his image,

1149
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: how he wants to make this team. I mean it, man,

1150
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: Like the Chargers and the Broncos are two teams that

1151
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: are taking on the personality and the talent level of

1152
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: their coaches.

1153
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: They are. They're taking huge steps over the course of

1154
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 3: the past eighteen months.

1155
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 5: Doesn't mean I'm still not afraid, you know, to get

1156
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 5: sucked in the old banana and the tailpipe kind of

1157
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 5: thing to where they let me down down the stretch.

1158
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 5: But as it stands, you've got good balance on this roster.

1159
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 3: The run game.

1160
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: As we said, it'll get better. Hampton's pretty good back,

1161
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: and we saw a little more of Najie Harrison the

1162
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: run game. Remember he had the fourth of July incident,

1163
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: so his availability at all to start the season was

1164
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: in question. So you'll get a little more semblance of

1165
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: consistency there. Your teams meet up next week. It's the

1166
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: odd schedule. You know how much I love this.

1167
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 5: Three division games right off the jump, and then it

1168
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 5: goes away for a while.

1169
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 3: But they played.

1170
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 5: Denver, and I would think right now is a good

1171
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 5: time to catch the Broncos because that defense is in

1172
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 5: anything it's been advertised.

1173
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: They're still trying to figure things out offensively. Maybe Franklin

1174
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: is jumping up as a number that's the.

1175
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 5: Right, but you're still trying to short between those guys

1176
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 5: week to week. Bo Nicks has been inconsistent at the trigger.

1177
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 5: The run game has been spotty as you're still trying

1178
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 5: to parse that out between Dobbins and Harvey. But but

1179
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 5: the defense is really the tale of the tape. We

1180
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 5: I think we all stipulate that Sean Payton's offense will

1181
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 5: find it stride. Yeah, Yeah, the Chargers get him in

1182
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 5: week three. It's the perfect time after what you watched

1183
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 5: him in nearly five hundred yards of offense for the

1184
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 5: Colts this week.

1185
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: Exit out about a Fresca exit Swallen Dome, Jason Smith,

1186
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: Mike Harmon.

1187
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 3: Now the early game tonight. We spent last the last

1188
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 3: couple of hours talking a lot about Baker Mayfield and

1189
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 3: the level that he is playing at that these I

1190
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: can't believe he still is under rage one the top

1191
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 3: seven quarterbacks in the game.

1192
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: That tattoo artist is halfway done with the one you're

1193
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: putting on your thigh. But the flip side of it, right,

1194
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: We've talked about this on Thirdday night Man. The Commanders

1195
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: need to go get a running back, right, you know,

1196
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: Bill Krossky Merritt's a great story, but clearly you need

1197
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: another playmaker there, right, Jayden Daniels need someone to be

1198
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: able to run the football, and they don't have that.

1199
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: They got to go out and get a running back soon, right,

1200
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: whether it's Breise Hall or somebody else. Look at you

1201
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: tonight to sell off component parts in the Jets tonight.

1202
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: I can say the same thing for the Texans, right,

1203
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: they had the lead late, they give it up. This

1204
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: is the second week in a row. The Texans offense

1205
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: not great.

1206
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 3: Let's score ten points in the first quarter and that

1207
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: was it.

1208
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: I mean, look, last look, the Rams defense is terrific,

1209
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: so I get it. Last week that was a battle

1210
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: of heavyweights. But the Texans offense, like, you're gonna just

1211
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: fritter away what could be a great season because you

1212
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: don't have another receiver.

1213
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 4: Right.

1214
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: Nico Collins is terrific, right, he shown he's with the

1215
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: top level, number one wide receiver talent in the NFL.

1216
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 3: But over the last couple of seasons, CJ. Stroud's level

1217
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 3: of play has gone down, and you can directly correlate

1218
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 3: that to the injuries and lack of production you get

1219
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 3: from the wide receiver position. Right when it was Collins

1220
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 3: and Diggs and you had Tank Dell and suddenly, wow, CJ.

1221
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 3: Stroud is really good. But you know Diggs didn't work out,

1222
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: he's gone, and now Tank Dell, who knows when he

1223
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: gets back on the field again. He was as uncoverable

1224
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 3: as a guy. Gad be tough man.

1225
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,760
Speaker 5: That was one of those guys that you watched and

1226
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 5: with great anticipation of that deep shot, when were they

1227
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 5: going to make it hit?

1228
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: Two injuries now for him, And now the Texans are

1229
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: trying to make it work with Collins and a couple

1230
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: of young guys. You're trying to make Justin Watson work.

1231
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: They don't have the horses throwing the football to be

1232
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: able to put points up the way they need to.

1233
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 3: CJ.

1234
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: Stroud's a good quarterback, but he's not elevating the guys

1235
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: around me. He needs another couple of weapons because Dalton

1236
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: Schultz has become an, okay, a threat at tight end.

1237
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: And look, we had the nice touchdown run from Nick

1238
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: Chubb tonight, a little bit of way back machine, but

1239
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: is he still really the same running back? Like this

1240
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: offense needs something, and they need another receiver. They need

1241
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: a number two because it's not like Nico Collins to someone,

1242
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw the ball up to him, He's gonna

1243
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: come down with it. Right, He's not Justin Jefferson, Right,

1244
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: He's not that guy.

1245
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 3: He's really good.

1246
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 4: Right.

1247
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: You saw the big fourth down play in the fourth

1248
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: quarter where they decided to go for it and they

1249
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: ran a roll out play and Nico Collins is covered

1250
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 1: and that's it. There's nothing else you can do. They

1251
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: need somebody. The big news in the good news is

1252
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: that there's gonna be a plethora. Would you say there

1253
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: is a preatha There will be a plethora of receivers

1254
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: available before the deadline, whether it's Tyreek Hill or somebody else,

1255
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: or even even a tight end whatever you want to do. Hey,

1256
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: maybe Tray Colston Lovelin because he's not going.

1257
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 3: On the field two games. Yeah, they need.

1258
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: Another wide receiver and they need one soon because that's

1259
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: what's gonna help make that offense go. Like we saw

1260
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: the need that the commander's need for running back on

1261
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: Thursday night, Texas need for another wide receiver or couple

1262
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: of Nico Collins.

1263
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 3: You absolutely have to have that.

1264
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 5: I mean, you had the big jail break from Nick Chubb.

1265
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 5: But other than that, I don't know that he averaged

1266
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 5: falling forward.

1267
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 3: What is he about? Six feet tall? Two yards?

1268
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 5: No, that's about right. That's about where he was until

1269
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 5: that big breakout run. But otherwise you're looking at a

1270
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 5: very pedestrian offense. You know, we go team to team

1271
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 5: and it's like all right, here's and this The critique

1272
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 5: in Chicaga, right, is that back to back weeks after

1273
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 5: last year not scoring at all on an opening possession

1274
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 5: here on the script. In the early moments of games,

1275
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 5: you're able to get on on pace, on targets, stay

1276
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 5: on script, on down distance, and make place for the

1277
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 5: Texans that worked early. But then adjustments. Tampa's d then

1278
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 5: clamps down, and you're getting nothing in the secondary passing game.

1279
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 5: Remember you also lost components, the key components of what

1280
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 5: was already a bad offensive line left right, So now

1281
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 5: you're also trying to fix and get your five dancing

1282
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 5: bears together. And I know you laugh at me because

1283
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 5: I bring this up all time, but it's like, if

1284
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 5: I don't have continuity there, I'm sure as hell not

1285
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 5: get in continuity in my running game. And my quarterback's

1286
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 5: never getting comfortable like it's the it's the multi pronged

1287
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 5: approach to this.

1288
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 3: And for CJ.

1289
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 5: Stroud, his com confidence looks a little shaken at times,

1290
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 5: but then he laid out those throws to call it.

1291
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 3: But they have to be just so precise.

1292
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 5: There's no separation and there's nobody else to take away

1293
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Speaker 5: any of that pressure, which means you're in for a long,

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Speaker 5: long season where the defense is going to have to

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Speaker 5: be superhuman