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Speaker 4: breakingtea dot com. All right, fun show, Here a lot

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Speaker 4: to talk about. We're gonna get into the Celtics and

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Speaker 4: their offseason questions. We gotta talk a little bit about

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Speaker 4: Bob Myers leaving the Warriors. You've got a very very

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Speaker 4: very strange tweet of the night. As soon as I

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Speaker 4: So we'll get to that. But it took a little

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Speaker 4: longer than anticipated. But after the Miami Heat had that

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Speaker 4: commanding win in Game seven versus the Celtics, in the

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Speaker 4: East Finals. We got the twenty twenty three NBA Finals matchup.

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Speaker 4: It's set. It's the Heat and the Denver Nuggets tipping

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Speaker 4: off this Thursday night with the first two games at

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Speaker 4: Ball Arena. So let's break it all down. Few questions.

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Speaker 4: We'll get into X factors obviously make our predictions. But

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Speaker 4: my first question to UTK is just what's your favorite

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Speaker 4: storyline heading into this Miami Heat versus Denver Nuggets Finals.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm just hoping that the Nuggets are awake, man.

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Speaker 3: They haven't played in forever, Like Nikola Jokic literally hibernating

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Speaker 3: right now. They're like, hey, wake up, man, we got

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Speaker 3: media day today. We actually have something we need to

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Speaker 3: do right versus Russ That's gonna be a storyline. Oh

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Speaker 3: you're gonna hear a lot about that one. But for me,

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Speaker 3: my favorite storyline, no doubt, somebody's getting a big time

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Speaker 3: ring for their legacy in this NBA Finals. The stars

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Speaker 3: from both teams no rings in Nikola Jokic and Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 3: Jokic is trying to cap off a monster three year

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Speaker 3: run two time MVP, followed by a one seed in

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Speaker 3: he would win finals MVP, but there's a great likelihood

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Speaker 3: be Yokic as the guy. That's basically the run that

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Speaker 3: was interesting when Jokic was left off that list as

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Speaker 3: the season after looking like a worthy inclusion when they

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Speaker 3: get to NBA one hundred, Yeah, twenty four years from now.

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Speaker 3: On the flip side, I kind of think Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 3: poor terms there, left on poor terms from the Timberwolves,

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Speaker 3: it's Jimmy Butler worth it. Jimmy Butler is completely worth

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Speaker 3: it because he is Heat culture embodied. People basically just

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Speaker 3: So I think that would be a huge narrative ring

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Speaker 4: That is pretty cool, and there is something extra special

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Speaker 4: about that chase for that first championship total with these

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Speaker 4: would add to that selfishly, I can't lose in this

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Speaker 4: NBA Finals either Jamal Murray Kitchener's finest, good old Canadian

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Speaker 4: a second ring with the Miami Heat, obviously winning one

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Speaker 4: with the Rafts in twenty Nineteen's on pump By. That

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Speaker 4: just another weird, random, fun storyline. As a player, assistant, coach,

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Speaker 4: coach and executive, pat Riley is in his nineteenth NBA

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Speaker 3: And then all the Celtics guys from the nineteen sixties,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's wild. And then my other favorite storyline, and

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Speaker 4: what a gross finals Miami versus Denver, especially an eight

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Speaker 4: Wish we could see the old black and white montages

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Speaker 4: race for eighteen banners. Yeah, that would have been cool

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Speaker 4: in the ratings and blah blah blah. Who gives a

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Speaker 4: shit you said it. It's either this Cinderella heat as

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Speaker 4: could do that. So this is gonna be awesome. Now,

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Speaker 4: I think the concern is is this gonna be a

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Speaker 4: You're seeing a lot of that. But can the heat

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Speaker 4: obviously make this a competitive finals if not once again

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Speaker 3: The Nuggets haven't lost a game since May seventh.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that's a lot of time.

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Speaker 4: They're twelve and three.

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Speaker 3: They've lost three times. One was a furious comeback. They

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Speaker 3: They could have easily swept that series. The two losses

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Speaker 3: But that's the thing. It's like the Heat are only

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now they want to be in this position.

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Speaker 4: If anything the Miami Heat do with Spoe and Jimmy

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Speaker 3: but I would like to see Nikola jokicch and Nikola

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Speaker 3: finish blowouts. Yeah right, you know what I'm saying, right right, right,

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Speaker 3: But very unlikely, very unlikely, But I got a feeling

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Speaker 4: You think, Spoe and Malona just for the moment, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: There will be one game where it's not competitive and

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Speaker 3: they'll just overlap perfectly. So I'd love to see that.

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Speaker 3: One thing to watch for though, Definitely the heat zone.

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Speaker 3: Nobody plays more zone. Nobody is better at playing the

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Speaker 3: just won't be able to stick with it for long

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Speaker 3: gonna have to just be a monkey wrench. I do

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Speaker 3: believe for the heat if the Nuggets are rolling, throw

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Speaker 3: it out for a couple of possessions, they gotta stop

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Speaker 4: Shuman with the stat breakdown for the Nuggets. The Nuggets

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Speaker 3: They are a Warriors esque offense to honestly, the way

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Speaker 3: That's like three point shooters who are your garden there.

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Speaker 4: All right, Miami heat X factor? Is there a player

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Speaker 3: You're everybody on the Heat is an X factor, So Gabe,

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Speaker 4: Even if that were gonna happen, Bam gets a couple

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Speaker 3: Ye don't wear Maybe that's the key. Like I think

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Speaker 3: it's hard to guard nicolea Jokic, Yes, both from a

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Speaker 4: Size just doesn't stop. In advantage for the Nuggets with

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Speaker 3: I think Denver is easier to figure out X factors

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Speaker 3: He's got the footwork to stick with them. Hopefully he

429
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 3: was just watching the Celtics series, don't go up on

430
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 3: pump fakes seems to be a pretty good key, So

431
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 3: I imagine that will be a coaching point from Michael Malone.

432
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 3: And I also think on the offensive end, Gordon is

433
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,480
Speaker 3: such a good cutter and that he's going to be

434
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Speaker 3: instrumental in breaking the zone. We'll definitely see some alley

435
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 3: oops from Jokic to Aaron Gordon over the top from

436
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,919
Speaker 3: the free throw line right to the rim, or just

437
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 3: simple backdoor cuts. But there are also going to be

438
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Speaker 3: times I think when Aaron Gordon is going to be

439
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 3: left wide open, just like he was in the Lakers series.

440
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 3: Sometimes he shot him with confidence, knocked him down. Sometimes

441
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 3: it was hesitation mom and it didn't look quite as smoothly.

442
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 3: He unlocks their bench as their small ball five. That's

443
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 3: a fun lineup to watch when they bring in the

444
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Speaker 3: compost crew and they're just flying up and down. So

445
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Speaker 3: I think he's a big time player for Denver.

446
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 4: I would also just go with because when you do

447
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 4: the Denver Nuggets, like you said, you go through the roster,

448
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 4: it's like they only play like seven guys. See guys,

449
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 4: I guess we count Jeff Green you'll get some spot minutes.

450
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 4: It's like who you picking. You went through obviously Aaron Gordon.

451
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 4: I guess Michael Porter Junior. We have said since the

452
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 4: start of the playoffs he is the ultimate X factor

453
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 4: when it comes to winning a championship. This guy plays well,

454
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 4: they could win this whole thing. And he's been great

455
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 4: for a majority of this postseason. Has held up defensively

456
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 4: as he've talked about a ton really impressive there. So

457
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 4: I guess I'll go Bruce Brown. Can he continue to

458
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 4: be like sort of the Nuggets version of Caleb Martin

459
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 4: in a weird way. Likes this Like we knew he

460
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 4: was good, we loved the signing, but then he's had

461
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Speaker 4: these moments in postseason games in this run where he

462
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 4: like takes over for half a quarter and you know,

463
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,719
Speaker 4: extends a lead or something like that. Obviously puts pressure

464
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 4: on the rim awesome in transition. So can he continue

465
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 4: the compost crew Brown, Brown and Green continue to bring it.

466
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 4: I think we'll see Christian Brown actually a little bit

467
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Speaker 4: more as Chris Malone went away from him in that

468
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 4: series against the Lakers. But I think because of his

469
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Speaker 4: size and sort of the small amount of bench that

470
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Speaker 4: we've talked about with Denver. I think he'll get a

471
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Speaker 4: chance here at least to start with. And I love

472
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 4: these coaches. They're not afraid to be like, all right,

473
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 4: here's the idea of our rotation. Oh you don't got it,

474
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 4: or this doesn't work against this team, see you later,

475
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 4: or like you're saying, maybe it's like, oh my god,

476
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 4: is there a your seven sighting? Like does that happen?

477
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 4: Could it could? Neither of these coach, especially Spoe coming

478
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 4: into this, he knows he can try like anything goes

479
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 4: because they're mad underdogs and damn eat Seed. You're going

480
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 4: against Yokich, this offensive you know, just juggernaut. You know

481
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 4: he's gonna try everything. Yeah, he'll give it a go,

482
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Speaker 4: which will make for a lot of fun. All right,

483
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Speaker 4: prediction where does tk lean task? By the way, before

484
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 4: he took off the Denver, he went Nuggets in five

485
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Speaker 4: So he went with that pretty popular pick of Denver

486
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Speaker 4: doing this in five games? What about you?

487
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think when we, you know, finally get the

488
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 3: breakdowns of headshots of who everybody picked from the various outlets,

489
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be mostly on the Nuggets. They have to

490
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,880
Speaker 3: be the huge favorite here. It's an eight versus one

491
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 3: of course, and the other two the one has a

492
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: two time MVP. So I'm nearly like Tass. I think

493
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: the Nuggets are gonna win this series pretty handily. But

494
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 3: I got a lot of faith in Jimmy Butler and

495
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 3: a lot of faith and Eric Spoll start to steal

496
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 3: a couple of games, So give me Nuggets in six.

497
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 4: Okay, Game one is massive. Both of these teams. I

498
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 4: believe they've both won Game one in every single series,

499
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,479
Speaker 4: obviously Denver, and I believe the Heat did that as well.

500
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 4: So never really like trailing in a series because they

501
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 4: go and get game one. So that's big.

502
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 3: It's this whole.

503
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 4: You know, Russ versus Rest. Thing. You know is Denver

504
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 4: gonna blow them out of the water here on Thursday

505
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 4: night because the Heater coming off a seven game series

506
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 4: and they flew right there, and they've played a lot

507
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 4: more you know, minutes and playoff games over at least

508
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 4: the last couple of weeks than Denver has, or is

509
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: it is it in their favor because Denver hasn't played

510
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 4: and it's tough to keep like that finals playoff sort

511
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 4: of mentality going when you're not when you're just around

512
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 4: for ten days. You're just taking care of your horses,

513
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 4: let's call me, I would imagine. So that's big. That

514
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 4: game one is massive, I think for how the Restless

515
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 4: Series goes. Kevin Pelton broke it down to teams with

516
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 4: both home court advantage and a rest edge of at

517
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 4: least five days going into the finals. Are eight and

518
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 4: one all time, So again, huge rest advantage with home

519
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 4: court advantage eight and one. The only series loss you'll

520
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 4: like this TK coming by the ninety eight Utah Jazz

521
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 4: against the Scottie Pippen Last Dance Bulls. Scotty throw a bone. Yeah,

522
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 4: So I mean this is in Denver's favor here. I

523
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 4: mean they took care of business. They took their foot

524
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Speaker 4: off the gas at the end of the regular season.

525
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 4: Luckily for them, the Celtics didn't go to the finals,

526
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 4: or they wouldn't have home court advantage. But they do.

527
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 4: And all of these reasons is why I'm also going

528
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Speaker 4: Nuggets in six excited about this first game. I almost

529
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 4: I don't care who wins. As we've gone over it's

530
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 4: like you'll get your Jimmy getting a first ring. You know,

531
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 4: Denver gets their first did he get another.

532
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 3: I don't care.

533
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 4: I always want Miami to win Game one because then

534
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 4: it's like, oh yeah, got a little hair and I

535
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 4: got a little fuzz on the top of my tooth.

536
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: Hare.

537
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 4: I want Miami to win Game one just because then

538
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 4: I think it's like very exciting series. But yeah, okay,

539
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 4: we're both going Nuggets in six. Like I said, task

540
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 4: taking Nuggets in five. I do believe there's gonna be

541
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Speaker 4: a lot of people picking Denver in the four five

542
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 4: six variety. But let us know in the stream team,

543
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 4: let us know in the comments. Tweet at us at

544
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: no dunk Sinc. Do you still believe in the Miami

545
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 4: Heat doing it once again? They beat the number one

546
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 4: seed in Milwaukee Bucks, they beat the number two seeded

547
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 4: Boston Celtics in the East, of course, and then can

548
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 4: they beat the number one seeded Denver Nuggets in the West?

549
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 4: And yeah, where does that put Jimmy in the list

550
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 4: of how many people does he just leapfrog in terms

551
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 4: of all time greats if he got that ring as

552
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 4: the eight seed and beating all those great teams, Yeah,

553
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: it goes up. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, Yokich,

554
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 4: same thing as Trey started this whole thing off with

555
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 4: finally getting one would be it'd be massive to his legacy.

556
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 4: And how many would it start for the Denver Nuggets

557
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 4: was the other part. I mean, I don't want to

558
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 4: get ahead of myself here, but they're locked into a

559
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 4: pretty damn good team.

560
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: They got Bruce Brown as like their biggest question mark. Yeah,

561
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: I mean he's a huge player for him, but uh

562
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: got to win the first one.

563
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 4: All right, guys, let's hear predictions. Like I said in

564
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Speaker 4: the comments, heat or Nuggets and how many games you

565
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Speaker 4: tell us we're gonna take our first break. When we

566
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: come back, we'll talk about the Celtics off season and

567
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 4: Bob Myers leaving the Warriors. Don't go anywhere, all right?

568
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Speaker 4: If you're joining us live on YouTube, thank you. Hit

569
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Speaker 4: that like button, make sure you subscribe and get your

570
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Speaker 4: votes in in the poll we have going right now.

571
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Speaker 4: NBA Finals. What you got? You got four options? Is

572
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 4: it Nuggets in four and five, or Nuggets in six

573
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 4: or seven, or of course the opposite of that, Heat

574
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 4: in four or five or heat in six and seven?

575
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Speaker 4: Early leader, No surprise, Nuggets in four or five. Forty

576
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 4: six percent of the vote, thirty one percent saying no

577
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 4: gets in six or seven. I hope it's the latter.

578
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: So basically three to one split for people taking the

579
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 3: Nuggets over the Heat, which I think will probably hold.

580
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's right. I am sort of cheering

581
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 4: for someone like Half Life Heroes who put a put

582
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 4: a little dough on the Miami Heat at the start

583
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 4: of the playoffs to win the chef nice and I

584
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 4: believe plus sixty five hundred makes money. Okay, make some

585
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: money if that comes true, if they can win four

586
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 4: more games here against Denver. So we'll see. All right,

587
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 4: let's talk a little bit about the Boston Celtics, because

588
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 4: we said we would save it. I got some questions

589
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 4: for you here at TK when it comes to their offseason.

590
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 4: The first one we start with Joe. Should Joe Missoula

591
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 4: return as head coach for the Boston Celtics or will he?

592
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 4: What do you think?

593
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: I'm conflicted. I'm glad you asked will he? I think

594
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: he will. I think the way that the season ended,

595
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: the extra week of podcast content we got from the

596
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 3: Boston Celtics, thank you so much for playing three more games,

597
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: given something to talk about, and for that reason alone,

598
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: I think Joe Mizula should come back, but honestly, he

599
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 3: got the team to play for him after going down

600
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: three zero. On the flip side, they went down three zero.

601
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I don't know how the results

602
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: factor in, but I think the comeback probably keeps Missoula around.

603
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: He was a rookie head coach. He was thrust into

604
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: this job basically right away. He had a good first

605
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: couple of months of the season, then after that started

606
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: getting a lot of criticism, of course from me as well.

607
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 3: So I think the question will be did he learn

608
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 3: from the playoffs because the Celtics need to be a

609
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: defensive identity team, and I think that's pretty obvious. That's

610
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 3: how they came back against Philadelphia, That's how they came

611
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: back against Miami. In all of the postgame quotes from

612
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: Game six and seven against Philadelphia, from the comeback against Miami,

613
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: it's basically the team talking about we came back to

614
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: our defensive identity. We got back to the team we

615
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: were everybody saying this is how we should play. So

616
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: I think that that's the key. I think Joe Miszula realizes, yeah,

617
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: we got to use I mean, we'll see if Grant

618
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: Williams six around, but Grant Williams, Robert Williams, we got

619
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Speaker 3: to play the way we played when we enter the finals.

620
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: I think that changes things. Because the team that the

621
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: Celtics were was kind of odd. They're one of the

622
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: most talented teams in the entire NBA two first team

623
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: All nbas you got the reigning defensive Player of the Year,

624
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: you got the sixth man of the Year, but they

625
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: played like a team that was at a talent deficit.

626
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 3: They tried to shoot a ton of threes and flip

627
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: the math on teams trying to become a hot three

628
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: point shooting team. That means you can lose, yeah, in

629
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: a lot of these games when you shoot twenty percent.

630
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: So I think that was a little bit of a misread.

631
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: But if Brad Stevens, if the players, and if Missoula

632
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: are all on the same page going forward, I think

633
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: year two could be okay.

634
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Speaker 4: I think they definitely need to add to that Celtics

635
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 4: bench if Missoula stage, they need to add some more

636
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 4: experience in terms of an assistant coach, probably a like

637
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 4: so a veteran coach right who's been through the grind

638
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 4: of postseason play and maybe you know a former player

639
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 4: too that you throw on your bench. Like we see

640
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 4: Coron Butler with the Heat. You see it across a

641
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: lot of great teams that could show a little tough

642
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 4: love to this squad. I think that would be big.

643
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 4: I think he will stage o Missoula. But but, but, but there

644
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: is no doubt you said it. The Celtics defense regressed.

645
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 4: He was a bit of a mess when it came

646
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 4: to calling timeouts or not calling timeouts and all that.

647
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: He was slow to adapt in some of these series

648
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 4: and maybe bit him in the ass against the Miami Heat.

649
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 4: Possibly they go on to win that if he's not

650
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 4: so slow to change things. His rotations were a little weird.

651
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: And now some of that we start learning about Robert

652
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 4: Williams in Game seven, you know he was quite sick

653
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: and all that. But koc Kevin O'Connor, this is what

654
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: he said. I thought it was an interesting look at it.

655
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: Quote.

656
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 4: Missoula might have the potential to be a great head

657
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 4: coach one day. But just as veteran teams can't wait

658
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: for inexperienced players to figure it out, the Celtics shouldn't

659
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 4: wait on an inexperienced head coach to do the same

660
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 4: end quote. Chaos had a bit of a hit piece

661
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 4: on the Celtics, you know, saying get out of here, Joe,

662
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 4: get out of here, Jalen. You know it's a Chaos

663
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 4: leaning into pushing the big red button. Yeah yeah, yeah,

664
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 4: blow it up. But that is a fair point. But

665
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 4: I think helping Joe Miszoola we said, adding to that

666
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: bench and and and going from there, I think could work.

667
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean he's Look, I didn't see Joe

668
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 4: missool this year and go man, that's a great coach.

669
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 4: No one said that. Absolutely, you saw a very inexperienced

670
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 4: head coach. I also don't love any of his postgame

671
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: press conferences. I find him just to be a little

672
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 4: weird of him being honest. Uh maybe that's just his

673
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: personality and he and again he's learning the dynamics of

674
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: the you know, talking to the media, not that that's

675
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: really important, but sometimes, you know, things he would say

676
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: wouldn't instill a lot of confidence in me. And I'm

677
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: not even a Celtics fan. So uh, yeah, we'll see.

678
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be there, though, do you

679
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: want really your fourth coach?

680
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 3: And forcing that's another big question.

681
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: Right, did you find the hair that?

682
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: I think it was one of thick All right, next

683
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: question real quick. Graton texted me over the weekend, pitch

684
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: me a podcast. What if we watched The Town four

685
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: times a week for a month and did a podcast

686
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: at the end of every week? Holy the Joe Missoula

687
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: plan we talk, we'll call it.

688
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 4: I don't mind it. I don't mind it.

689
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 3: I think I would go insane.

690
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 4: Man, oh, you would go and say, that's funny.

691
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: Watch the same movie four times in one week?

692
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: Any movie, I don't know.

693
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: It's tough.

694
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: But that's like a perfect example. Let's talking about what

695
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 4: do you mean he's not doing that unless like he's

696
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 4: doing like he's he's prepping for his opponent and he

697
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 4: just puts it on background. It's just background, and it's

698
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 4: just on a chair. Okay, I can maybe believe it then,

699
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 4: but he's not sitting there watching it and like the

700
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: movie's fine, what's not that good?

701
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: No movie's good enough to watch four times a week?

702
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: Well, rat's pretty good. We could watch that.

703
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: Rad's probably shorter. That is what this guy getting two

704
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: hours a day every other day to watch a movie.

705
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: Good point, Good point. I like that idea that it's

706
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 4: something there for summer content here at no dunks. All right,

707
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: The next question I could have led with it if

708
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 4: I'm being honest, does Jalen Brown get the super max?

709
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 4: And you know, the secondary question to that is do

710
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 4: the Celtics stick with the Jays or do you what

711
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 4: Kosi says, yes, split them up? Do you still run

712
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 4: this back with Jason Tatum and Jayleen Brown? And a

713
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: part of that equation is obviously a super max for

714
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 4: him two hundred ninety five million.

715
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 3: Who's gonna be expensive? These Celtics are getting quite expensive,

716
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: especially with this new CBA hitting. Yeah, that sounds scary

717
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: every time somebody starts talking about this new CBA and

718
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: the second apron, Man, you better stay out of the kitchen,

719
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 3: right second eight.

720
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: Pick a ball reference there, And just to make that

721
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 4: clear for anyone that doesn't know, Yeah, this new CBA,

722
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 4: it's in all likelihood gonna make roster construction very difficult.

723
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 4: And the Celtics could experience this firsthand as they try

724
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: and figure out how to build around if they run

725
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 4: it back here, which I think they will, a Tatum

726
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 4: and Brown core because those two contracts would make up

727
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 4: seventy percent that's their team of their cap, and then

728
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 4: force them to make all these difficult decisions of how

729
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 4: to spend available money without exceeding that second aprint, because

730
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 4: once you get over that, you're losing your ability to

731
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 4: use the mid level exception. You're complicating the path for

732
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 4: any one on one trade or one for one trade.

733
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 4: It has to be for a player of lesser cellar Like,

734
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 4: it's just like it's a lot more difficult.

735
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: So, yes, it's gonna be tough, Yeah, it's gonna be tough.

736
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: But I still think, yeah, I still think Jalen Brown

737
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: gets the Supermax, even after having a game where he

738
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: had eight field goals made in eight turnovers in a

739
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: game seven, Because the question for me, how would the

740
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 3: Celtics possibly get better if Jalen Brown leaves, right, they

741
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 3: would have to take a step back for at least

742
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: the next season. Some of the trades you see bandied

743
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: about Portland is a pretty interesting one. But it's like

744
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: if they get anthrety Simon's and draft picks back, they

745
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 3: are not better. They're not even close to us good.

746
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 4: What about Damian Loward, that's interesting If dam said I

747
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: want out a point exactly.

748
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: It really accelerates the timetable. It shortens your window, I think,

749
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: because I mean Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown, they're still

750
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 3: super young, and they basically guarantee you or conference finals

751
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: appearance at this point. They go every single year they

752
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: made the finals once they were a game away from

753
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 3: making the finals. This year, you just want to throw

754
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: that away because it looks bad every single playoffs for

755
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: parts of it. I don't know, so to me, I

756
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 3: think it's going to be pretty touchy negotiation wise, because

757
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: apparently Jalen Brown did not like being in the Kevin

758
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 3: Durant trade talks last year, so you better come correct

759
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: if you're going to go for it, don't lowball him

760
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: because I think he's gonna want his entire contract, which

761
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 3: he should. So I do think the Celtics should bring

762
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: him back because it's better to have good two good

763
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: players that you know are good, that work together. They

764
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: maybe have not been the top two guys in the NBA,

765
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: they haven't been the top duo, but they've been one

766
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: of the best duos and they can still get better,

767
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: and that is the key to me. Tatum has to

768
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 3: be a better playmaker. Brown has to learn how to dribble,

769
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: and then the Celtics take yet another step.

770
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 4: Right right, and they're still young enough that they should

771
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 4: be totally add that to their game. They have been,

772
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 4: and I'm not the first to point this out Tatum

773
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: and Brown, they have been like victims of their own success,

774
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 4: no doubt, like early success. Brown has made the conference

775
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: finals in five of his first seven seasons as a pro,

776
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 4: Tatum four of his first six. Because it comes in

777
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 4: a year later, it's like that is that's incredible? Like

778
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 4: that means you like in the running in almost every

779
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: year you've had these guys together for a chance to

780
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 4: win it. Tell they haven't, They've come up short. But man,

781
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 4: I'd rather be in in that scenario than you know,

782
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: a middle of the pack team, a team fighting to

783
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 4: get in. You know, maybe you win a playoff series

784
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 4: or two. I mean, they're they're they're knocking on the door.

785
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: They're both really good. The Dame one is interesting. If

786
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 4: that was a real possibility, It sounded like you would

787
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 4: consider that one. If it was upgrading Jalen Brown with

788
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 4: Damian Lillard for the chance to win a title. Right now,

789
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 4: what about Bradley Beal If there was anything there where

790
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 4: it's a Jalen Brown going out and you.

791
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: Got the to Saint Louis, But I don't think that's

792
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 3: grade Yeah, okay, okay, side move at best.

793
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 4: Okay, okay. So you think you think in the end,

794
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 4: it sounds like they're gonna offer them basically the super

795
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 4: Max and he's gonna be there, and then you you

796
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: obviously build around the the around these two guys, which

797
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 4: which is gonna get difficult. Now Brown's big money extension

798
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 4: wouldn't kick in until next summer, and then Tatum the

799
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: summer after that, so there's a tiny little bit of

800
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 4: a little window. Yeah. Yeah, but that's what you think

801
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 4: is gonna happen here.

802
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just doesn't. It was a bummer ending, no

803
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 3: doubt for the South. They stent of the season ended,

804
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: especially considering the comeback against Philadelphia. You're thinking, we got Miami,

805
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: we beat him last year. Obviously it's a rivalry between

806
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: the teams, but to get down three to zero, that

807
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: was a bummer, and then to come all the way

808
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 3: back and then losing Game seven the way they lost,

809
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: definitely a bummer and puts a little bit of a

810
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: tarnish on Jalen Brown. Makes it make you over a

811
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 3: little bit sideways at bringing him back for one of

812
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: the biggest contracts in the NBA. But still like if

813
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: you're one of the four teams left standing every single season,

814
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 3: that means you got a chance to win and you

815
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: just need luck to go the right way for you.

816
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: At one point, you've been one of the up to

817
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 3: one in the finals.

818
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 4: Last year, you've been one of the final four teams

819
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 4: standing almost every year. It feels like with an new

820
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 4: coach every years, right, and that these two guys are

821
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 4: the constants. So I'm with you. I'm a big Jaylen

822
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: Brown fan. Obviously, the handle it's got to get better.

823
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 4: I've made this comparison a million times, but I remember

824
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 4: when DeRozan had no handle. It feels very similar. There's

825
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: actually some comparisons to a little bit Tatum Brown to

826
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 4: the old Lowry DeRozan days. Now these two on the Celtics,

827
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 4: they're all level up. Ye don't get me wrong, than

828
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 4: the DeRozan Lowry days. But we saw what happened time

829
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 4: and time again with them. You know, some regular season success,

830
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 4: obviously faltering in the playoffs. Some of that was running

831
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 4: into Lebron James, which the Celtics don't really have that

832
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 4: excuse for any moore him being a different conference, But

833
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 4: the Raptors eventually did say we're moving one of these

834
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 4: guys because they saw the perfect scenario where it was like,

835
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: we're actually upgrading the player, getting Kawhi Leonard who sort

836
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 4: of damaged goods in his situation in San Antonio. Could

837
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 4: that happen here in Boston if it was like a

838
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 4: Damian Lillar or something like. If it's if it's a

839
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 4: player that's an upgrade to help your window to win

840
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 4: a championship right now or next season or the season after,

841
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 4: then then I think you do it. But they're like,

842
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 4: I mean, I can think of Damian Lillard. You don't

843
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 4: even think Beal would fall into that category. It's like, then, who,

844
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 4: there's not many other names.

845
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, I don't even know if

846
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard is in that sure, sure, I'm like, Kawhi

847
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: was a Finals MVP by the time he got to

848
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: the Raptors. Kawhi was one of the five best players

849
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: in the league by the time he got to the Raptors, right, So, yeah,

850
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know who that guy is

851
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 3: right now. Maybe if the Lakers decided to move on

852
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: from Anthony Davis fits the bill.

853
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 4: Okay, okay. Final question here with the Celtics, I mean,

854
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: what other moves need to be made in addition to

855
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 4: figuring out Jalen Brown. Where do you think they could

856
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: you know, shore up this team or what are something

857
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: they need to focus on the.

858
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: Big The whole rotation is a bit of a question

859
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: mark to me because Grant Williams is going to be

860
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 3: in the restricted free agency. He was awesome for them

861
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. I thought like he came back into

862
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 3: being a key player for the Celtics, being able to

863
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: help their small ball lineups and guard up, guard down,

864
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: But he didn't play.

865
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 4: Very much Missoula too long, Yeah exactly.

866
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: He was more of an Imai Udoka favorite than Joe

867
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: Missoula favorite because Missoula over indexes on offense. Al Horford

868
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: is getting older. He had a really great regular season,

869
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 3: second in the league in three point shooting. There were

870
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: still times I thought that he had big time impact

871
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, but you just never know as players

872
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 3: get that old. And then Robert Williams, He's awesome for

873
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: twenty minutes a game fifty times a season. I don't

874
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: think he's a super reliable guy. So that's question marks

875
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 3: for all three of their big spots. I just don't know.

876
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, somebody could make an offer to Grant Williams.

877
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: That's too much for the Celtics to bring him back

878
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: because he's as a guy who's in the Players Union,

879
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: it's kind of part of his job to go for

880
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: as big of a contract as he can, so I

881
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 3: think he should.

882
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 4: Well, I think he could warrant from another team, Like

883
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 4: is he going to be twenty million under eighteen? Seventeen eighteen?

884
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: That's that seems a lot seventeen or eighteen, Yeah, fifteen

885
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 3: to eighteen, something like that. But I would like having

886
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: him on my team, Like, I just think he's a

887
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 3: solid player. Maybe he gets in trouble with his mouth

888
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: a little bit, as he did with Donovan Mitchell and

889
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler this season, but you would still rather have

890
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 3: him back, especially since he's been around for quite a bit.

891
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: He's just a good continuity guy as well. It just

892
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: seems like the roster is a little weirdly balanced to me.

893
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: They've got three point guards in Derek White, Marcus Smart,

894
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 3: and Malcolm Brock.

895
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 4: I think all those and I think one of those

896
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 4: guys is gonna go.

897
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I see people are saying that it should

898
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: be Smart. Maybe it should be I mean, I don't know.

899
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 3: I a playmaker would definitely help the Celtics. I think

900
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 3: Smart is a good playmaker. He's just a little too risky,

901
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: a little too high variance to be the guy. So

902
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. One of those three could move on.

903
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: I imagine just because you don't need three of similar players.

904
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 4: You wouldn't think it'll be Derek White. The way he played,

905
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 4: I think that would be silly, brogged in, I mean,

906
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 4: injuries came into play. That's sort of always been his thing.

907
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: He's set to make twenty two and a half million

908
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 4: next season. He's got two years remaining on his deal.

909
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 4: Smart makes eighteen point six million next year. I could

910
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: see why people think it would be Marcus Smart being

911
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 4: the one that would be potentially moved. But that's a

912
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: little weird because he feels like the identity of the

913
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 4: Boston Celtics half the time. But maybe that's a shakeup

914
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: you would have to do. I feel like one of

915
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 4: those guys, though, probably Brogden or Smart is not there

916
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 4: next season, and I think that I think that's right

917
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: because they're sort of they do different things, some better

918
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: than others, but there are some similarities like between the

919
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 4: three of them, like, yeah, start running out of minutes

920
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 4: for them. So we'll see if that's what they do.

921
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 4: But let's hear from you guys when it comes to

922
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,959
Speaker 4: the Boston Celtics and what they do in the off season,

923
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 4: especially the Jail and Brown Supermax or the idea of like,

924
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 4: do you have a trade that actually makes sense where

925
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 4: you're moving Jail and Brown if that's your decision. In

926
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 4: other news, Golden State's Bob Myers, two time Executive of

927
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 4: the Year architect for four NBA championships with the Warriors,

928
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: he's stepping down as the franchise's president and GM, as

929
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 4: The Athletic previously reported. The Athletic was all over this

930
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 4: story like a month ago, saying this is probably gonna happen.

931
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: Bob Myer's is probably leaving the Warriors and Myers had

932
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 4: no substantial contract extension talks in the months leading up

933
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 4: to Tuesday's decision, where Bob Myers and the ownership there

934
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 4: had press conference. So the franchise was prepared for his departure.

935
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 4: What do you think this means for for Golden State

936
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 4: here and moving forward? There's talks of maybe Mike Dunleavy

937
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 4: Junior taking over, but they have obviously questions with Draymond

938
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 4: Green and then contracts coming up with Clay and all that,

939
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 4: and what do you you know, Jordan Poole, is he

940
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 4: going to be staying there? You're moving off him? What

941
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 4: do you think this all means?

942
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: Whoever takes over is gonna have a lot to do

943
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: this summer, no doubt about it. The pool extension was

944
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: done last year, but now it's a question mark if

945
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 3: he sticks around. The Draymond is a huge piece of it.

946
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: The Clay is a huge piece of it. But we

947
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: know one guy from the dynasty is leaving, and that's

948
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: Bob Myers, and that's I don't know. It just makes

949
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: the team feel a little unsettled to me because a

950
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: lot of the you know, I don't remember, at least

951
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 3: a lot of dynasties where they had decision makers were

952
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 3: changing halfway through. It's a good point, right like RC

953
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: Buford and Greg Popfitch, those are the guys for the

954
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: Spurs the entire time Jerry Kraus was the guy for

955
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: the Bulls the entire time. Bill Belichick was the guy

956
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 3: for the Patriots the entire time. You don't see the

957
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: people who are making the calls change up top, and

958
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: teams continue on winning. So I think that definitely unsettled.

959
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: But I think that the Warriors are going to come

960
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: back together because there's a lot of reporting from Tim Kawakami,

961
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 3: from Anthony Slater and these pieces basically saying we're all

962
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: still on board here, we want Draymond back, we want

963
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 3: to figure out what that's going to be. Maybe Clay

964
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 3: takes a little bit of the pay cut, but as

965
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: long as Stef's around, they got a chance, and that's

966
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 3: the thing. If stuff's there, Yeah, Golden State is still around,

967
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: still a force to be reckoned with. But this does

968
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 3: feel like the beginning of the end of an era,

969
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: which is almost the fast X tagline. Not quite, but

970
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: it feels like the beginning of the end of an

971
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 3: era when one of the first four pieces moves on

972
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: to whatever the next thing is.

973
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 4: Well, it's no secret that Myers was particularly close with

974
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 4: Steph Curry, so there is that part. Now. Steve Kerr

975
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 4: has one year left on his contract. All indications remain

976
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 4: that he plans to stick around and see that through

977
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 4: its end. But he was very close to Bob Myers,

978
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: Like Bob Myers like like there was you know, there's

979
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 4: some pretty explosive personalities, not just on the Warriors team,

980
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 4: but I would say in the Warriors like ownership level. Yeah,

981
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: and it feels like Bob Myers was always the one

982
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 4: to sort of calm everyone down, get on the same page,

983
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: put out some fires, keep this dynasty running. And now

984
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 4: that he has gone, that's a Those are big shoes

985
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: to fill, be it Mike Dunleavy junior or Kirk lacub

986
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 4: or whoever steps into that role. And then there's the

987
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 4: Draymond Green. Yeah, he's got player option. Does he want

988
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 4: to go elsewhere? Does he want to stay? Clay has

989
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 4: extension talks of coming up, and you would have thought

990
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 4: Bob Myers would play a huge role in that as

991
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 4: a trusted negotiator. So yeah, this is big. Like usually,

992
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 4: like I think some people are like who cares, it's

993
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 4: a guy in a suit, But like the this is

994
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: why all these these deals get made. They come together,

995
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 4: you keep coaches happy, you keep front off or the

996
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: ownership happy like it's it's someone like Bob Myers is

997
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 4: so well, who's so trusted and liked, not only there,

998
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: but across this league. It's big, Like I don't think

999
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 4: this should you know, like just be like glossed over.

1000
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, it's all right, they'll be fine. I

1001
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 4: don't know, because you see this happen in like, you know, companies,

1002
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 4: where someone in control of a lot of people decides

1003
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 4: to leave for whatever reason or gets pushed out. Not

1004
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 4: that that happened in this case, but leaves people start

1005
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 4: going okay, all right, are we okay? Like I really

1006
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 4: like that guy or woman. Like then somebody comes in

1007
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 4: and maybe there's butting the heads. There's a change of plans, directions.

1008
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 4: It's like I don't want to be here either. I

1009
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: missed that guy I'm missing, So we'll see if.

1010
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 3: It happens totally. Actually I knew this family. The dad

1011
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: ran a huge conglomerate, died on an airplane trying to

1012
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: fly across disease, and it plunged his family and his

1013
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: company into complete chaos. Dis Yeah, wild stuff. So you

1014
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: never know what's gonna happen.

1015
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 4: Warriors Jesus live every moment. Yeah, alright.

1016
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 3: One thing I did notice though, one A lot of

1017
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: talk about Mike Dunlevy junior. Yeah, and the takeover guy.

1018
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: So my first question, of course, is he gonna be

1019
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: the tallest GM in the league?

1020
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: Oh?

1021
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 4: How tall was Bob Myers?

1022
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 3: I think Bob Myers was listed at six seven Okay,

1023
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: Mike Dunlevy listed at six foot nine.

1024
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 4: Oh.

1025
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 3: There are two taller gms out there. Calvin Booth number

1026
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: one six.

1027
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 4: That was that sickle ship rights.

1028
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: Honestly impressive.

1029
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if I can get the other one.

1030
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 3: The other one, no surprise a former player, Yeah, lots

1031
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: of morning.

1032
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 4: No, it doesn't count.

1033
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think he's technically their GM. That's

1034
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 3: a good one. He's about the same height as oh Man.

1035
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference GM. Made a big trade, made a big

1036
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 3: trade during the season.

1037
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 4: In the season, the biggest trade, the Kevin Durant trade.

1038
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: The Kevin Durant trade. Oh Sean Marks, Sean Mark six

1039
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 3: ft ten, sneaky tall guy, sneaky talky. Yeah.

1040
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, damn man, I can't believe I got Booth over

1041
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: the more impressive.

1042
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 3: I had a Google list of NBA g ms and

1043
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 3: then individually check all of the former players heights Connolly.

1044
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: I didn't check Tim Connolly's height.

1045
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 4: Who's the shortest? I know?

1046
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: All right, let me let me, let me speculate.

1047
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 4: No, no, you don't do that.

1048
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: You got Kobe Altman.

1049
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 4: Okay, there you he got it all right.

1050
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 3: Let's get to tweet of the night. Tweet of the Knight.

1051
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: Woww Yeah, tweeted the night. Pretty pretty easy one that

1052
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 3: was going all over Twitter last night. And as I

1053
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: saw this morning, thirty three thousand likes. It's from Josh

1054
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: Hart who asks if y'all ever tasted y'all significant others

1055
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 3: breast milk? Asking for a friend, he's asking for himself,

1056
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 3: I think.

1057
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so too. Well what's going on here?

1058
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: I think he's got a young babe, right, but a month.

1059
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 4: Old that just happened. Yeah during the post.

1060
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 3: Yep yep, yep, yep, yep.

1061
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 4: So he tried it.

1062
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,959
Speaker 3: He tried it, he was thinking, asked to.

1063
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 4: Try it, right, right?

1064
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: Right?

1065
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 4: So did you try?

1066
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 3: Of course? Right. I've been curious of what breast milk

1067
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 3: tastes like since a Friend's episode in nineteen ninety five.

1068
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: They did a whole episode about this. Thirty years ago.

1069
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Speaker 4: I thought you're gonna say, since Robin from Game of Thrones, But.

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Speaker 3: I was honestly curious the second I was born. It's like,

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Speaker 3: what does that taste like?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: Then I then I slipped away for thirty something years, right,

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Speaker 3: and then I came roaring back and tastes like milks keats.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, very similar to milk. It turns out, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: called that for this. It's gross to drink your significant

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Speaker 3: ou there's breast milk.

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Speaker 4: What were what were the reactions to this? I mean,

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Speaker 4: I didn't do a you're crazy Josh? Okay?

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Speaker 3: I did?

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Speaker 4: I thought Jayleen Brunson, I think did he say I

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Speaker 4: saw like having some fun?

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Speaker 3: I thought that. Darren Fox said, of course you're asking

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Speaker 3: this one month then.

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Speaker 4: Still like that, We're on to you.

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Speaker 3: Spy. Gessian said, is your friend a baby?

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Speaker 4: I did? I did see that. I laughed at that.

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Speaker 4: I laughed at that. Uh JD, what about you? Did

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Speaker 4: you ever try Rachel's breast milk? Hey, Rachel, climb in here.

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Speaker 4: I had a couple of cups while you're at it.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, if she was lactating, now that would be

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Speaker 2: bad news. Hell no, absolutely not, no, no, I'm not

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Speaker 2: a bodily fluids person. I think I've mentioned before if

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Speaker 2: I cut my finger, I'm not even putting that in

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Speaker 2: my mouth, Like, yeah.

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Speaker 4: That's the first thing.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's the first thing most people do. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I have zero curiosity. In fact, I'm mildly grossed out

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 4: So how do you feel about milk in general? From

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Speaker 4: the cow milk?

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with, I guess. I mean, I enjoy a latte,

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Speaker 2: you know, but I'm not whipping up a latte with

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Speaker 2: my wife's breast milk. It seems like a seems like

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Speaker 2: a waste, to be honest, Like it was kind of

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Speaker 2: hard to get that milk going right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, you felt selfish.

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Speaker 2: Well, Lincoln was early, so we had to sort of

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00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 2: like help that along, like getting their milk out, and breastfeeding.

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Speaker 3: Is no joke.

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Speaker 2: It's not not an easy thing. And then Jackson was

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Speaker 2: a goddamn glutton when it.

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Speaker 4: Came to the milk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeahzler just a guzzler. So I was even if

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Speaker 2: I wanted to try it, I probably there was nothing left.

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Speaker 2: How I mean, are you getting it straight from the teat?

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00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 2: I guess is the question? Or are you putting it

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Speaker 2: in a bottle, like checking the temperature and then and

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00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: then taking a swig out of a bottle. I mean

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Speaker 2: I did, I locked my arm okay style? All right?

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Speaker 4: I wonder you got all that hair in your mouth.

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00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 3: Licking your arm.

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Speaker 2: Just as much hair from the teat and something. You

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Speaker 2: never know.

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Speaker 3: What a tweet?

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Speaker 2: Yeah what.

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00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 4: I'm just about to say it. What a tweet? What

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Speaker 4: a teet? Josh Hart? Good stuff? All right, that's it

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Speaker 4: for us here today, guys. But there is a new

1130
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 4: No Bunts pod up on the Athletic Baseball Show feed.

1131
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 4: Before Task took off to Denver, him and Joel jumped

1132
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 4: on to discuss Pete Alonzo crushing dingers. I guess he's

1133
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 4: on his way to sixty home runs an umpire cut

1134
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 4: on a hot mic, and Mike Trout's fascinating and you know,

1135
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 4: complex career and how people feel about Mike Trout as

1136
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 4: a baseball player. So the guys talked about that and

1137
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 4: a whole lot more. That link is in the show notes.

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Speaker 4: So go check out No Buns. We'll be back tomorrow

1139
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: for some fun, some craziness. I'm sure maybe we'll hit

1140
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 4: the beach. Get your questions in.

1141
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: We just got to preview the finals again.

1142
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 4: We'll just do it that.

1143
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 3: We'll just run this back, got any other X factors?

1144
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 2: Just watch the town four times.

1145
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,959
Speaker 4: We could watch the town and talk about it at

1146
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: No dunks inc I n C. On the end, if

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00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 4: you want to tweet in some questions, yeah, we'll probably

1148
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 4: hit the beach and yeah, maybe have some fun. We

1149
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Speaker 4: can take a look at the odds in the finals. First,

1150
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 4: if you play some bets, yeah, first basket, Yeah, you know, finals,

1151
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Speaker 4: MVP and stuff like that, and how many games away.

1152
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Speaker 4: We'll do something more when it comes to the NBA Finals.

1153
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 4: And then tomorrow night we probably will be doing a

1154
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Speaker 4: watch party for Game one of the NBA Finals on playback.

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00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 4: We'll share that link once that's up. I'll do that

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Speaker 4: later today. But thanks for joining us here live. Hit

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00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 4: that like button, subscribe. If you're a podcast listener, leave

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Speaker 4: your boys a five star rating and review until tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Clipper bros.

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Speaker 3: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up,

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Speaker 3: love you guys awesome. Thanks for joining us. And remember

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Speaker 3: L and L Limos is a scam.

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Speaker 4: You watched the whole thing. Let's just talk about it.

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Speaker 4: I think you should leave seasons three.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow's watch it four times today, so I brace the day.

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Speaker 4: People