Speaker 1: Alvit couldn't keep her eyes off the woman sat alone
Speaker 1: in the dining hall, with a glass of wine in
Speaker 1: one hand and a book in the other. She'd arrived
Speaker 1: at the hotel earlier that day and appeared to be
Speaker 1: traveling alone, a feat which for women traveling in Norway
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy was positively unheard of. But it wasn't
Speaker 1: just that which left the twenty one year old Alvet spellbound.
Speaker 1: It was her whole demeanor. It was pure sophistication, from
Speaker 1: the simple but elegant way she dressed to her confident
Speaker 1: and worldly air. What do you think she does, she
Speaker 1: said to Lilian, taking a rest by the bar. I'll
Speaker 1: bet she's some kind of international businesswoman. Beats me, said Lilian,
Speaker 1: as she gave the surface a quick wipe. What I
Speaker 1: wouldn't give to be more like her, said Alvid ruefully.
Speaker 1: Just then the woman looked up from her book and
Speaker 1: winked directly at her. Shit, said Alvid, turning sharply away. Mortified,
Speaker 1: that'll teach you to stare, said Lilian with a wry smile.
Speaker 1: Alvid soon laughed it off and got back to work
Speaker 1: clearing tables on the other side of the room, still
Speaker 1: unable to resist the occasional glance toward the beguiling new
Speaker 1: guest as she cleared away the plates. It was October thirtieth,
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy, and the woman that had so captured Alvid's
Speaker 1: imagination was Alexeya Zana Marchay, a Belgian tourist who'd recently
Speaker 1: arrived in the country from Slovenia. Alexeya had booked a
Speaker 1: five nights stay at the Hotel Neptune where Alvid worked
Speaker 1: in Bergen, a pretty coastal town in the southwest of
Speaker 1: Norway known as the gateway to the Fiords. Earlier that afternoon,
Speaker 1: Alexeia had been shown to her room by Frank sivtson
Speaker 1: the hotel's bell hop. Like Alvid, Frank too was a
Speaker 1: little star struck by the woman's unusual presence, describing her
Speaker 1: later like something he'd only ever seen in magazines before.
Speaker 1: Though he attempted to speak to her in his broken English,
Speaker 1: it was clear she had little time for idle chit chat,
Speaker 1: and it was the same throughout her stay with Alexeia,
Speaker 1: who was only ever seen alone, offering only the most
Speaker 1: perfunctory of replies if any one attempted to engage her
Speaker 1: in conversation, and then when her five nights were up,
Speaker 1: she was gone. It was two weeks later when a
Speaker 1: woman named Elizabeth Leanhuer, traveling from Ostend in Belgium, checked
Speaker 1: in to Bergen's Hotel hard to Hyman, barely a five
Speaker 1: minute walk from Hotel Neptune. The receptionist couldn't help but
Speaker 1: be impressed by how swiftly she filled in the hotel's
Speaker 1: registration form, writing in all the details, including her passport number,
Speaker 1: straight from memory. Not unlike Alexia at the Neptune, Elizabeth
Speaker 1: too had an unusually confident air about her. She was
Speaker 1: clearly well traveled and multi lingual, with sharp, striking features
Speaker 1: and dark hair, leading some to suspect an Eastern European heritage. Later,
Speaker 1: when she was shown to her room, she made a
Speaker 1: bee line for the window. After taking a moment to
Speaker 1: examine the street below and the apartment's opposite, she turned
Speaker 1: back to the attendant and asked to be moved. Moments later,
Speaker 1: she was shown into room four oh seven, which by contrast,
Speaker 1: had a largely uninterrupted view, and agreed to take it.
Speaker 1: Over the next four days, Elizabeth was seen occasionally coming
Speaker 1: and going from the hotel. When she ate, she preferred
Speaker 1: to order room service rather than sit in the dining room.
Speaker 1: The staff thought it strange how long it would take
Speaker 1: for her to open the door when they delivered it.
Speaker 1: While sometimes she wouldn't even open the door and simply
Speaker 1: requested that it be left for her outside, on more
Speaker 1: than one occasion, the food or coffee she'd ordered would
Speaker 1: simply stay in the corridor untouched. On November twenty third,
Speaker 1: Elizabeth checked out of the hotel and had the receptionist
Speaker 1: order her a taxi to Bergen's station. When it arrived,
Speaker 1: he helped load her two large suitcases into the back
Speaker 1: and waved her on her way. Sometime later, in the
Speaker 1: twilight hours, as gray clouds gathered in the skies above,
Speaker 1: a young man made its way across the mountain slopes
Speaker 1: just to the north of Lakes Fartetiquette, just east of Bergen.
Speaker 1: Having set out from Arna just over a mile away.
Speaker 1: He was nearing the end of his walk when he
Speaker 1: saw a woman with dark shoulder length hair, dressed oddly
Speaker 1: for a trek through the mountains in city clothes, but
Speaker 1: more than that, it was clear from the woman's face
Speaker 1: that she was panicked and in a hurry to get somewhere.
Speaker 1: For a moment, he thought she might say something to him,
Speaker 1: But then she glanced back suddenly toward two men in
Speaker 1: the distance, who were steadily heading toward them. Before long,
Speaker 1: the woman was past him and rushing onwards to wherever
Speaker 1: she was going. The moment seemingly missed, the man turned
Speaker 1: back toward Bergen and continued on his way. This moment,
Speaker 1: and his failure to intervene, would haunt him for the
Speaker 1: rest of his life. You're listening to Unexplained, and I'm
Speaker 1: Richard McClean smith. The young girl's feet squelched in the
Speaker 1: mud as she climbed through the long grass up into
Speaker 1: the valley. It had just gone one on November twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy, and the girl, only twelve years old, was
Speaker 1: making good headway through his Darling or Ice Valley to
Speaker 1: the south of Lakes Vartetiquette, just east of Bergen. She
Speaker 1: stopped to take a breath and gazed out at the
Speaker 1: snow and pine covered hills around her and down toward
Speaker 1: the still dark waters of the lake below. A little
Speaker 1: further down the valley, her father and ten year old
Speaker 1: sister did their best to keep pace, shouting for them
Speaker 1: to hurry up. The girl turned and continued up the slope.
Speaker 1: A few minutes later, having stepped into a clearing, she
Speaker 1: was approaching a small scattering of boulders when she caught
Speaker 1: the whiff of something odd in the air, like charcoal.
Speaker 1: Almost it was odd since there wasn't a campfire in sight,
Speaker 1: and since it was so damp and cold, there wasn't
Speaker 1: likely to have been one any time recently. Then she
Speaker 1: looked again at the patch of boulders and screamed. Nestled
Speaker 1: in the middle of it was the unmistakable outline of
Speaker 1: a human body lying on its back with its arms
Speaker 1: outstretched before it that was completely burned all over. One
Speaker 1: foot had fallen off, while the face had all but
Speaker 1: melted entirely revealing teeth. At the sound of her screams,
Speaker 1: the girl's father rushed quickly to get her, urging her
Speaker 1: not to look as he turned her away from the
Speaker 1: hideous sight and told her to join her sister further
Speaker 1: down the mountain. It would be well over an hour
Speaker 1: before the family made it back to Bergen, from where
Speaker 1: they were able to inform the police about what they'd found.
Speaker 1: With every step on their return, pregnant with the terrifying
Speaker 1: thought that a killer was stalking the mountains around them.
Speaker 1: It was sometime in the afternoon that the call came
Speaker 1: into the Burgen Central Police station alerting them to the
Speaker 1: discovery of a burnt body in the mountains. A light
Speaker 1: rain had begun to fall as the first officers arrived
Speaker 1: at the scene. What they found there was like nothing
Speaker 1: any of them adevoring counter before is Darlin, where the
Speaker 1: corpse was found, was well known to the police as
Speaker 1: a local suicide spot, with it believed that people had
Speaker 1: chosen to end their lives there since medieval times. A
Speaker 1: number of deaths caused by walkers getting disorientated in fog
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties had only helped to further slidify
Speaker 1: the valley's nickname Death Valley. At the scene, police promptly
Speaker 1: got to work combing the area for clues as to
Speaker 1: what exactly might have happened. Certainly on a superficial level,
Speaker 1: it seemed to bear all the hallmarks of suicide. There
Speaker 1: was the half drunk bottle of hard liquor, as well
Speaker 1: as a box of matches and two melted plastic bottles
Speaker 1: which police assumed had contained petrol, Some speculated that pills
Speaker 1: had probably been taken to Some fragments of clothing, or
Speaker 1: at least what was left of them, were also recovered,
Speaker 1: along with some rubber boots, an umbrella, and a fur hat,
Speaker 1: all of which, coupled with the relatively small size of
Speaker 1: the victim, led police to conclude that it was the
Speaker 1: corpse of an adult female. However, no ide was found
Speaker 1: at the scene. As such, police were left with the
Speaker 1: unenviable task of combing through missing persons reports and hoping
Speaker 1: for a call from concerned friends or relatives looking for
Speaker 1: someone who hadn't been seen for some time. With the
Speaker 1: victim's death judged to have occurred almost a week previously,
Speaker 1: for a town like Bergen, it wouldn't be long until
Speaker 1: the pieces would start to fit together. And yet, after
Speaker 1: two days of searching, investigators had no more what they'd
Speaker 1: started with, but also something a little odd had been discovered.
Speaker 1: Of all the items they recovered from the scene, none
Speaker 1: had any identifying marks on them at all, no labels
Speaker 1: on the bottles or even the items of clothes, all
Speaker 1: having seemingly been purposefully removed. It was three days after
Speaker 1: the body was found when the call came in from
Speaker 1: Norway's National Criminal Investigation Service known as Krippos, who Burgen
Speaker 1: police had drafted in to assist with the unusual case.
Speaker 1: Investigators had located two suitcases at Bergen train station which
Speaker 1: had been unclaimed for over a week. Now finally it
Speaker 1: seemed they had a break. The suitcases, unsurprisingly, were full
Speaker 1: of clothes, practical but stylish. There was make up too,
Speaker 1: of the expensive kind, brought from a well known shop
Speaker 1: in Paris. All fairly standard, you might say. From there
Speaker 1: on in, however, things began to get a little strange.
Speaker 1: A number of whigs were discovered among the clothes, as
Speaker 1: well as a pair of non prescription glasses, the kind
Speaker 1: you might wear as part of a disguise, say, as
Speaker 1: opposed to glasses that would help you see better. There
Speaker 1: was a fair amount of money too, in multiple denominations,
Speaker 1: from Norwegian, German and Belgian to Swiss and English. They
Speaker 1: also found a tube of bet novat x macream with
Speaker 1: the patient's prescription label on it, but any hope of
Speaker 1: finding a name was soon dashed when it was found
Speaker 1: to have been deliberately scratched out, along with the name
Speaker 1: of the doctor who prescribed it. When the clothes were
Speaker 1: examined closer, they too were found to have had their
Speaker 1: labels removed. No identity documentation was found at all, but
Speaker 1: spirits was soon raised when officers discovered a note book
Speaker 1: buried among the other items. Much like everything else, However,
Speaker 1: it only served to deepen the mystery. Inside, investigators found
Speaker 1: what looked like some kind of alphanumeric code written out
Speaker 1: in three separate columns, one reading, for example, ten M
Speaker 1: eleven M, sixteen M L seventeen M and continuing on
Speaker 1: in a similar manner. A Swedish hiking map was also found,
Speaker 1: with the name of five train stations written at the
Speaker 1: top of it. A thumb print extracted from the glasses,
Speaker 1: matching that of corpse, provided some proof at least that
Speaker 1: the suitcases had likely belonged to the deceased. However, with
Speaker 1: no idea what the apparent code in the notebook alluded to,
Speaker 1: the only genuine clue investigators were left with was a
Speaker 1: shopping bag for the Oscar road Vet footwear store located
Speaker 1: in Stavanger, a coastal town roughly one hundred and twenty
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Speaker 1: zero Rolph wrought Vett, was on duty in his father's
Speaker 1: shop when the woman came in. He remembered her well
Speaker 1: because she took such an inordinate amount of time to
Speaker 1: choose her shoes, eventually alighting on a pair of blue
Speaker 1: rubber boots with a draw string at the front, the
Speaker 1: same that were found at the scene of her death.
Speaker 1: Rolph was the first to provide a description of the woman,
Speaker 1: describing her as being around thirty years old, of medium height,
Speaker 1: with long, dark hair and brown eyes, and having a
Speaker 1: curvy figure. The woman didn't even buy the shoes once
Speaker 1: she'd chosen them, deciding instead to come back the next
Speaker 1: day to get them. This small detail suggested she'd likely
Speaker 1: stayed in a local hotel overnight, prompting a number of
Speaker 1: police to visit every hotel in town to see if
Speaker 1: anyone recognized the woman from Ralph's description, and finally they
Speaker 1: got a hit. A receptionist at Stavanger's Saint smithn hotel
Speaker 1: identified her as one of their recent guests who'd stayed
Speaker 1: at the hotel from November ninth to the eighteenth, and
Speaker 1: from that they had a name, Fennella Lorc, a tourist
Speaker 1: who'd been visiting Norway from Belgium. With huge relief back
Speaker 1: at Bergen police headquarters, investigators then began the laborious task
Speaker 1: of trying to trace her last movements, starting first of
Speaker 1: all with whether she'd stayed in Bergen before she was
Speaker 1: found there, but no one under that name came up.
Speaker 1: After consultation with police forces in Belgium, no Fennella Lork
Speaker 1: or any one matching her description appeared to being reported
Speaker 1: missing any time recently either, and so the investigators tried
Speaker 1: something else. Armed with Fennella Lorc's alien registration form, a
Speaker 1: standard government form that all foreign guests staying at hotels
Speaker 1: in Norway were required to fill out, they requested the
Speaker 1: names and forms of any foreign females who'd stayed in
Speaker 1: Norway any time between Fenella's visit to Stavanger and late
Speaker 1: November when her body was found. What they discovered astonished them.
Speaker 1: As the forms came in, investigators trawled through each and
Speaker 1: every one, looking for any that might match Fenella's. Incredibly,
Speaker 1: no less than seven individuals had filled out registration forms
Speaker 1: with the same, uncannily similar handwriting Genevieve Lancier stayed in
Speaker 1: Oslo from twenty first to the twenty fourth of March.
Speaker 1: Claudia Tilt checked into two separate hotels in Bergen from
Speaker 1: March twenty fourth to April first. Some months later, on
Speaker 1: the night of October twenty ninth, a Claudia Nielsen stayed
Speaker 1: in Stavanger, while one Alexia Zanna Marshay appeared at the
Speaker 1: Neptune Hotel in Bergen the following night, staying there until
Speaker 1: November fifth. Then there was Vera Yaral, who stayed in Trondheim,
Speaker 1: another coastal town about four hundred miles northeast of Bergen,
Speaker 1: from the sixth to the eighth of November, followed by
Speaker 1: Fenella Lorkee who was identified as the victim, who checked
Speaker 1: into the Saints Fithan Hotel back in Stevanger the following day,
Speaker 1: and then finally the wasmers Elizabeth Leenhauer, who during her
Speaker 1: time in Bergen in mid November, also stayed in two
Speaker 1: separate hotels, eventually ending her time in the city at
Speaker 1: the Hotel Order Hymen, from where she checked out on
Speaker 1: November twenty third. All seven women had stated their nationality
Speaker 1: as Belgian, with each providing their own individual passports as
Speaker 1: I dentification, and all quite clearly were the exact same person.
Speaker 1: Needless to say, her identification as someone called Vanella Lorc
Speaker 1: was now thrown completely out of the window. However, with
Speaker 1: this explosive new information, CRYPOS investigators took another look at
Speaker 1: the cryptic columns of letters and numbers in her notebook
Speaker 1: and quickly identified a pattern they correlated precisely with when
Speaker 1: and where the woman had stayed in Norway. On December fifth,
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy, an autopsy on the deceased's body was finally
Speaker 1: carried out and a more formal description of her began
Speaker 1: to take shape. The woman had been one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty four centimeters tall and was described as having a
Speaker 1: slender build with broad hips, and had brown eyes and
Speaker 1: dark brown and blackish hair. She was aged somewhere between
Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty five at the time of her death.
Speaker 1: It was also determined that she'd never given birth. Ten
Speaker 1: gold teeth in her jaw were of a kind most
Speaker 1: often used in southern or central Europe, which suggested a
Speaker 1: possible point of origin for her. But perhaps most significantly
Speaker 1: of all were the fifty to seventy undigested tablets of
Speaker 1: the sedative phenomel found in her stomach. For the Burgen police,
Speaker 1: this was further evidence to support the suicide theory, since
Speaker 1: it was considered inconceivable that anyone could have been forced
Speaker 1: to swallow so many pills. The woman's death was officially
Speaker 1: recorded as being caused by a combination of a drug
Speaker 1: overdose and carbon monoxide inhalation from the smoke generated by
Speaker 1: her own body as it burned. In other words, the
Speaker 1: woman had been alive when she caught fire, hinting again
Speaker 1: as far as the police were concerned that she'd done
Speaker 1: it to herself. For the next few weeks, Bergen police
Speaker 1: focused their energy on building a timeline of the deceased
Speaker 1: woman's last known movements. Anyone they could find who'd seen
Speaker 1: or talk to her in her various guises was interviewed
Speaker 1: from Alvid Rangnus and Lillian Kohne at Hotel Neptune in Bergen,
Speaker 1: who knew her as Alexia Zana Marchay, to the taxi
Speaker 1: driver who believed he was taking a woman called Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Leenhouer from Bergen's Hotel Horde Hymen to Bergen station on
Speaker 1: November twenty third, a man who was quickly established as
Speaker 1: the last person to see her alive, or painted a
Speaker 1: picture of a mysterious Lona, at times a confidant, sophisticated,
Speaker 1: multi lingual woman of the world, at other times anxious
Speaker 1: and paranoid. Nothing was found, however, to help identify her.
Speaker 1: In response, an image was compiled from the various descriptions
Speaker 1: and release to the press in the hope that some
Speaker 1: one might recognize her, but no one came forward. When
Speaker 1: news of her numerous identities inevitably made their way into
Speaker 1: the press, rumors that she was some kind of secret
Speaker 1: agent began to circulate, forcing the Burgen Police to hold
Speaker 1: a press conference to set the record straight. When asked
Speaker 1: if she was involved in espionach Oscar Hardness, head of
Speaker 1: criminal investigations, replied no, I think we can safely say
Speaker 1: there's nothing to support this. Actually, we can completely rule
Speaker 1: it out, and when asked if it was murder, Hardness
Speaker 1: replied simply that there was no reason to assume that
Speaker 1: it was. Meanwhile, in another section of the Bergen police station,
Speaker 1: a message received via teleprinter was slowly printing itself out.
Speaker 1: It came from the security department of the Norwegian Armed
Speaker 1: Forces and seemed to paint a very different picture from
Speaker 1: the one that Oscar Hardness was quietly giving. A few
Speaker 1: days before the police conference, sea fisher Burton Rot, working
Speaker 1: out of a port in Stavanger, approached a security officer
Speaker 1: at the uls Nest naval base, located on the city's
Speaker 1: north shore. After seeing the image of the deceased woman
Speaker 1: in the paper. Rott believed he recognized her as someone
Speaker 1: he'd seen acting suspiciously at the port in Tananger, another
Speaker 1: coastal town just to the west of Stavanger. Tananger also
Speaker 1: just happened to be the place where a series of
Speaker 1: naval exercises involving a top secret and newly developed missile
Speaker 1: known as a Penguin had just been carried out. The
Speaker 1: Penguin anti ship missile was one of the most advanced
Speaker 1: forms of naval ordinance in the world at the time,
Speaker 1: and it also just so happened as the message from
Speaker 1: that teleprinter was explaining that the unidentified woman had been
Speaker 1: in the precise place at the precise time on two
Speaker 1: occasions when this system was being tested, and on one
Speaker 1: occasion when Norway's twenty fifth missile boat squadron were conducting
Speaker 1: some missile related exercises. On each of these occasions, it
Speaker 1: was reported that Soviet boats were seen in nearby waters,
Speaker 1: appearing just in time for the exercise, as if they
Speaker 1: knew when and where exactly they were taking place. Furthermore,
Speaker 1: it was also found that the woman had arrived at
Speaker 1: Trondheim Airport on the same day that two Soviet spies
Speaker 1: known as Rubenov and Popoff, were also known to have
Speaker 1: arrived at that airport. Though they are known to have
Speaker 1: left the airport before the unknown woman arrived, there was
Speaker 1: nothing to suggest they hadn't performed some kind of dead
Speaker 1: drop for her to later pick up. Whether any of
Speaker 1: this was taken into consideration by the Burgen police is unclear. Publicly,
Speaker 1: at least, they appeared to have made up their mind
Speaker 1: the woman, whoever she was, they believed, had committed suicide,
Speaker 1: having been suffering from some kind of paranoid delusion or
Speaker 1: state that had compelled her to not only maintain a
Speaker 1: series of multiple alter egos, complete with disguises and fake passports,
Speaker 1: but also to make continual efforts to erase all evidence
Speaker 1: of her true identity, from cutting out the labels of
Speaker 1: her clothes to removing her name on the label of
Speaker 1: her Exma cream. Allied nations were approached and asked surreptitiously
Speaker 1: if they had any operatives working in Norway at the time,
Speaker 1: but all claimed not to know of any such thing.
Speaker 1: With over a hundred people interviewed during the three week investigation,
Speaker 1: the mysterious case appeared to have hit a dead end.
Speaker 1: On February fifth, nineteen seventy one, over two months since
Speaker 1: her body had been found. The unknown woman was laid
Speaker 1: to rest. A short service was held at Bergen's Molndar Cemetery,
Speaker 1: led by a Catholic priest, chosen on account of the
Speaker 1: fact that many of the woman's aliases were the names
Speaker 1: of Catholic saints, after which her white coffin, laden with
Speaker 1: tulips and carnations, was carried outside into the cold and
Speaker 1: rain as twelve men and women of the Bergen police
Speaker 1: force followed behind. Another six carried it toward the unmarked
Speaker 1: plot at the edge of the graveyard. Then, after a
Speaker 1: few more words from the priest, the unknown Woman's body
Speaker 1: was slowly lowered into the ground. The coffin was made
Speaker 1: of zinc to prevent disintegration in the event that any
Speaker 1: family or loved ones might come forward to claim the
Speaker 1: woman's remains, but no one ever did, and in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy three the case was formerly closed. In twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: with the Isdal woman, as she became known all but
Speaker 1: forgotten about, a team from Norway's public broadcaster NRK decided
Speaker 1: to turn their expert eye on it in the hope
Speaker 1: that modern day forensic techniques might finally solve the mystery.
Speaker 1: New analysis carried out on her teeth revealed surprisingly that
Speaker 1: she was in fact more likely to be forty to
Speaker 1: fifty years old, while a DNA profile successfully extracted for
Speaker 1: the first time from preserved tissue samples, along with further
Speaker 1: handwriting analysis, appeared to narrow down her place of birth
Speaker 1: to somewhere close to the border of France and Germany.
Speaker 1: Aside from that, little more concrete evidence has come to light.
Speaker 1: Over the years, A number of people have come forward
Speaker 1: claiming to have small snippets of information that might help
Speaker 1: to identify the woman, but those two seemed to have
Speaker 1: led nowhere, and so the true identity of the Isdel
Speaker 1: woman and what happened to her which continues to haunt
Speaker 1: all those who glimpsed, if only for a moment, this
Speaker 1: most beguiling and enigmatic figure, from the numerous hotel staff
Speaker 1: to the anonymous man stricken with guilt that you might
Speaker 1: have well passed her in the mountains only hours before
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