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Starting off oh 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 4: and two for the first time in the Mahomes era, 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 4: They've lost three straight games for the first time in 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 4: the Mahomes era. 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 3: And here's the other issue. 14 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 4: The Chiefs again first time starting oh and two is 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: twenty fourteen as a franchise, not just Andy Reid, not 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 4: just Patrick Mahomes, not just Travis Kelsey. They have missed 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: the postseason each of the last six times they've started 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 4: the season oh and two. And if that wasn't bad enough, 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 4: across the NFL, teams that start out oh and two 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 4: only make the playoffs twelve percent of the time. 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: Kelvin, I got news for you. 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 5: What's that The percentages could say twelve percent, I'm saying 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 5: zero percent. 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,279 Speaker 3: The Chiefs will not. 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 5: And ot make the playoffs. I have been talking about 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 5: them for two years now. And the Lucky Rabbits foot well, 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 5: I've been chronicling this all, the demise of what's going on, 28 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 5: and Patrick Mahomes and the numbers. I made the mistake 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 5: last year and said that Patrick Mahomes had turned into 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 5: Daniel Jones. 31 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: I'm wrong. He's worse than Daniel Jones. Are you kidding me? 32 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 3: Have you seen the numbers for Patrick Mahomes? 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 5: Not good? Not even not good? How about terrible? How 34 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 5: about awful? I'll give you the numbers. Passer rating eighty two, 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 5: twenty sixth in the National Force League, not even completing 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 5: sixty percent of his passes, fifty eight point eight, twenty. 37 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: Eighth in the NFL. 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 5: Yards per pass twenty first at six point five. 39 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: Dinking, dunkdink and dunk enough. 40 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 5: Dinking is good, and dunking with donuts, but not football 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 5: so much. 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 6: Just say shocking, dunk with you don't want to be 43 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 6: dunking Yeorge per game two hundred and twenty two and 44 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 6: a half seven times for seventeenth and two touchdowns one 45 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 6: pick in two games so far. 46 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: So the numbers are not good. 47 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 5: Travis Kelsey's retired, and on any other day he might 48 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 5: as well retire because once he started talking about it, 49 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 5: you're basically retired as a player, and you saw the 50 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 5: bad play and turned into an interception. But he's just 51 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 5: a non factor. I mean, it's unbelievable how much of 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 5: a non factor he is. You know, you can talk 53 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 5: about waiting for receivers to come back and keep hoping 54 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 5: and wishing, and before it was Patrick mahoh, they have 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 5: the most drop, and they had this, and they had 56 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 5: that that. People have kept making excuses instead of looking 57 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 5: at what the numbers are, and the numbers aren't good. 58 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 5: I'm just I'm not surprised. I'm really not. But it 59 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 5: finally caught up to them. All that good luck. I 60 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 5: told you last year they weren't gonna win a Super Bowl. 61 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: They were way too lucky. 62 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 5: Teams would blow up and make a bad place to 63 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 5: help them win. The kicker would hit the upright or 64 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 5: miss an easy field goal or whatever it was. It 65 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 5: was all these things that happened. And now here they 66 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 5: are two games in and the games that they normally 67 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 5: win no matter what, they haven't been able to win. 68 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 5: So I'm not surprised. I know the math. The math 69 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: says twelve percent of teams that start zering too don't 70 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 5: make the playoffs. Right, I'm saying just zero. I just 71 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 5: do not see them making the playoffs. And I know 72 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 5: there's fifteen games to go and a lot of football 73 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 5: to play. I just I'm looking at this team and 74 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 5: I'm just I don't see it. 75 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: This is where I don't understand you. Sometimes I love 76 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: you like a play cousin, but I don't get it. 77 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 1: They're owing two and each game, especially yesterday, they lose 78 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: by three to the reigning champs. And you just mentioned 79 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: Travis Kelce catches that touchdown pass, it's a different game. 80 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: He does it not all day. We could do all 81 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: day and we can, so let me do it. So 82 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: Travis Kelce catches that touchdown, we might be having a 83 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: completely different conversation. And similar to the Chargers, they're right 84 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: that d that thing or drive away from winning it. 85 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: So they got to win those games and they have 86 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: historically the last year or two won those games. 87 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: Here's why I'm not counting them out. Number one. 88 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: You just mentioned it, that have fifteen games left, and 89 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: if i'm them, I'm saying, we just two teams who 90 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: are legitimate playoff teams who look well. 91 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: One is the raining chants to owing two their season's over. Yeah, 92 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: but the Jets ain't the Chiefs. 93 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: So like I was saying, I'm looking at it as 94 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: the Chargers look like they're gonna be They were a 95 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: playoff team and look like they're gonna be really good. 96 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: We'll find out more tonight. And also the Eagles have 97 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: been good for the last three four years and they're 98 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the raigning champs. We were in both of those games. 99 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: In fact, again you felt really good about If you're 100 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: the Tenna City Chief and you feel really good about that. 101 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: Now here's the reason why what you said matters to me. 102 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it as we're competitive with two really 103 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: good teams. We're in this We still have, of course, 104 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: two guys coming worthy might be back next game. And 105 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: then you got Rashid Rice who could be backing the 106 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: noise another three or four games. So as long as 107 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: if you stay in this thing and you're three and three, 108 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: you're even here for two and three, and you're voting 109 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: around there, you have more than enough runway to right 110 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: the ship. Similarly to how I felt about the Ravens 111 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: last year when they started off oh and two. If 112 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: there's a team that can go one and two, one 113 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: and three, oh and two on three, it'd be a 114 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 1: handful of teams. The Chiefs are one of those teams. 115 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: They've been right there in those games. And I know 116 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: again they feel like we are a player too a 117 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: way if we get our guys back. So to me, 118 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it as defenses can you around, especially 119 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: against the Eagles. And then again, when we get our 120 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: guys back, we have more explosiveness. We got guys who 121 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: can take it over the top. To your point, they've 122 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: been dinking and dunk. We have opportunities to go along. 123 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: We have opportunities for special plays, little bubble screen that 124 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: breaks because worthiest fast as I don't know what, so 125 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: I don't look at it as and again last point 126 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: to two teams were ten and seven that made the 127 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: post even season. You got the Bucks that made the 128 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: postseason at ten and seven and the Broncos made in 129 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: your own division made the postseason last year at ten 130 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: and seven. Ten and seven, so you have plenty more 131 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: games if you gotta lose a couple more. If you've 132 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: obviously got to go on a nice winning streak ten 133 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: and seven if that can get you in. This team 134 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: is capable of ten and seven to get in. 135 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 136 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm not writing them off how you are based off 137 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: of those facts alone. 138 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: Right there? I rowed them off. 139 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 5: Last year, I told you they couldn't win a super Bowl. 140 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 5: You to tell me that they win a Super and. 141 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: No one does. I told you they weren't good enough, 142 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 3: they couldn't win a super Bowl. 143 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: So you old you, You told told you because only 144 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: one team would win the Super Bowl even we went 145 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: out on the limb, rod. 146 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: Could have been six. 147 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: So what I told you, robster domas you're the man, 148 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: they literally win maybe sixteen and maybe sixteen and one some. 149 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: Of this football since nineteen eighty. Here's what I'll do. 150 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: Here's what I'll do that. 151 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: I'll just say a team was gonna lose every week, 152 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: lose every week, and it acts like it doesn't matter. 153 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: And then when you come in, don't want to bring 154 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: it up that they lost until they they won, until 155 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: they lose. 156 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: So let me learn from you. They're gonna lose. 157 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: They're gonna lose it even though he win, they won, 158 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: they won, they won, they won, then they finally lose 159 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: in the. 160 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: Super I told you. You told me every week they 161 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: were gonna lose. 162 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 5: All of it did just like half weeks, just like 163 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 5: I told you the Lions were and you told. 164 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 3: Me that for ten weeks. 165 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: I told Rob G they won the receipts that Rob 166 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: G told me every week you would have picked the Lions. 167 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: You go in there and you picked them every week 168 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: thinking they were going to win. 169 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: Some teams or fifteen and two don't look like broster 170 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: domas just like. 171 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: What you call you had them beating the Washington didn't 172 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: win the super Bowl. God forbid you get to the 173 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: Super was supposed to be there. There was supposed God forbid. 174 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 5: I told you when I didn't tell you when it 175 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 5: was striking. 176 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: I told you when they were eleven or twelve and 177 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: o that they weren't winning. No Super Bowl ain't gonna is. 178 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: You kept telling me they're gonna lose. No, that's who. 179 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: I don't know what you want to listen to. That's impressive. 180 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: When they're gonna lose, they're gonna lose. They're gonna lose. 181 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: They're gonna lose, They're gonna lose. I'm probably gotta right. No, 182 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: they're not gonna win. 183 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 5: The super's gonna tell me I told you that, and 184 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 5: I'm telling you again. 185 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: You'll go back. You know the best about it. Fans 186 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: know that's that's what they're doing the best. No, you 187 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 3: got everything on YouTube. They all know I love them Microwaves. 188 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 5: He sat here and told me Jim ain't gonna get fired. 189 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 5: He just took the Knicks to the best place they 190 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 5: ever been. What I would next day, I told you 191 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 5: I want to get fired. You told me that they overachieved. 192 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: They achieved. No, they did not overachieved. Team got fired 193 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: their coach. Why you bring why why are you going 194 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: back to the Knicks? What I got to do anything? No, 195 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to stop. 196 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 5: I'm telling you stuff ahead of time, way ahead of time. 197 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: So if you listen to. 198 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: The program every single week, you tell me the Lions 199 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: lose a right, the Chiefs are gonna lose and Rogers 200 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: ain't gonna do this. 201 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: You're gonna I told you. You told me this week 202 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: they're gonna lose. 203 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 5: This'n I got that one wrong this week coming. 204 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: To that's all I need play Baltimore that you just 205 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: said that I got this one wrong. 206 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: I'm better now. 207 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 208 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: the nation. 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I'm not surprised TJ. 233 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 5: I've been on this bandwagon for the last couple of years, 234 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 5: just the way that they've played, how lucky they've been. 235 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: Even last year, a lot of games went their way. 236 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 5: Now all of a sudden, they're owing to in games 237 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 5: that they usually win, you know, one score games, and 238 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 5: now owing to what's your forecast for the Chiefs. 239 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 7: They've been lucky the last two years. You know what 240 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 7: they say were lucky is when preparation. 241 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: J can you stop the kicker? 242 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 5: The Raiders mishandled a snap that ain't preparation. The kicker 243 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 5: for the Chargers missed the easy field goal that ain't preparation. 244 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 7: Luck favors Luck favors the guys that are prepared. Now, listen, 245 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,479 Speaker 7: I picked the Chargers to win the division. 246 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: This year, but the Chiefs not making the playoffs. That's 247 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: where I'm at. 248 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 7: I don't know if I would go that far. But 249 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 7: they've been on a downward spiral offensively for the last 250 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 7: couple of years, and the defense has just picked them up. 251 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 7: And now that the defense cannot pick them up as 252 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 7: much as they need, it's even worse. Like they can't 253 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 7: they can't move the ball effectively. People are playing the Chiefs. 254 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 7: Like the way they play. The Chiefs defensively, you wouldn't 255 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 7: think they were not what Patrick mahomes as a quarterback, 256 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 7: but they won a division nine years in a row. 257 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 7: John Harball, John Jim Harball is a great coach in 258 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 7: his second year? What are you to do with the Niners? 259 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 7: So right now I have the Chargers and the Green 260 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 7: Bay Packers going to the Super Bowl. I said this 261 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 7: before the season started. Let's see if that holds truth. 262 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm on. I believe they can still make 263 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 3: it ten and seven. 264 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: Got the Bucks and also got the Broncos in there. 265 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs can do that. I just think 266 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: that once they get their receivers back, as you know. 267 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 5: Maybe I will sign in a row and it'll be 268 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 5: great for NFL America. 269 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to a team. You know you're 270 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: familiar with the Bengals. We were just talking about them 271 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: before we got on with you. The bad news with 272 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow could be out minimum three months, could be longer. 273 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: At some point, you wonder if they'll just pull the 274 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: plug on the whole season. Between his health, the defense 275 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: being just called the defense because it ain't no d 276 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: What do you make of this Bengals team right now 277 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: and is the next year next year because all the 278 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: money is on the offensive side. I worry that this 279 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: could be a situation where Joe Burrow got to the 280 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: super Bowl early and may never get to And I'll 281 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: tell you why, because of a team you picked. 282 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 3: You picked justin Herbert. 283 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: You still got my homes, you got Lamar Jackson, you 284 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: got Josh Allen, you got CJ. 285 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: Shroud. That conference is crazy with quarterbacks. 286 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 7: It's disappointing, man Like, it's our root for the Bengals. 287 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 7: And to start the season too. And oh when the 288 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 7: last few years we can't even get the first two 289 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 7: weeks of the season. We don't even know how to win. 290 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 7: Feels like right, so to be to one zero and 291 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 7: offense didn't play well Week one, Defense held us down. 292 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 7: Defense couldn't really get a stop against the Jags. If 293 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 7: Trevor Lawrence hut and throw the ball to us at 294 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 7: the end zone and Diamie Brown drops a touchdown that's 295 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 7: right in his hands, it's a different story. But Trey 296 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 7: Hendrickson made a play when it mattered at the end 297 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 7: of the game and sell that for us. But having 298 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 7: Joe pretty much. He's out for the season. Man, it's 299 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 7: a heartbreaker. This is Joe burrows sixth season, and this 300 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 7: is the third season he's pretty much gonna miss the 301 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 7: entirety of the season, more than half of the games. 302 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 7: You tear your knee. He had a risk injury and 303 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 7: now this, and so it's really nothing you can do. 304 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 7: Joe's one of the best quarterbacks in the league. But 305 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 7: at some point you gotta wonder can he stayed healthy consistently, 306 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 7: consistently enough to lead us where. 307 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: We need to go, no doubt. 308 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 5: I want to ask you about Russell Wilson. Rex Ryan 309 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 5: said on ESPN that he was finished. He couldn't play anymore. 310 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 5: He only had like four hundred and fifty years. He 311 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 5: still throws the deep ball. What did you make of Russ? 312 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 5: Russ's performance? And despite all that, the Giants still couldn't 313 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 5: win the game. I mean, just just a bad That's 314 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 5: a bad loss to me, you know what I mean. 315 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and. 316 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 5: He's scored a touchdown right for them, TJ with twenty 317 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 5: five seconds ago. 318 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: You got to win that game, don't you. 319 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 7: Russell Wilson played a fantastic football game. He made a 320 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 7: bone head decision at the handpoint he to that pick, 321 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 7: but I felt like he was just throwing the ball 322 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 7: down the field, and he was like, hey, one of 323 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 7: these guys gonna make a play. For all the people 324 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 7: that say receivers don't matter the boy, they better go 325 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 7: watch that game and look at what Elak Neighbors was 326 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 7: on and the type of plays make it. But the 327 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 7: play that really bothered me was after they take the 328 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 7: lead in the fourth quarter and they played a soft 329 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 7: Tampa to defense and they let that completed to the 330 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 7: tight end and that put him in field goal range. 331 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 7: Because of Brandon Aubrey, anything within sixty is a field 332 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 7: goal range. 333 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: But I don't know the TJ. You got to help 334 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: me out. 335 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 5: This happens every week with no time like it happens 336 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 5: like ten seconds, fifteen twenty. It doesn't matter what it is, 337 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 5: you know what, I'm allowed teams to get in field goal range. 338 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 7: That reminded me of when the Buffalo Bills that when 339 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 7: Tyreek Kill against the Kansas City he see without Tyreek Hill, 340 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 7: they don't play that way. And so but that's what 341 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 7: that reminded me of. It's like, you got game plan 342 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 7: and Dave was an old school coach man them jihants 343 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 7: coaches and they in office today. They getting out the 344 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 7: office at one am, y'all game planning all damn day. 345 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 7: Y'all in the office till eleven twelve, one o'clock in 346 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 7: the morning. And this is what y'all do in the game. 347 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: Thank you? 348 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 7: What what is going on? 349 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 5: All that is is you know what like a badge 350 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 5: of honor? Who he slept in the coaches room? We 351 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 5: did get, no, But that's what they brag. No, that's 352 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 5: what they brag about, is about how many hours day 353 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 5: we get two hours? You know, I'm sleeping in my 354 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 5: office and all that, and you still turning that stuff right? 355 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 7: Hey, good, Hey, get in an argument with your wife 356 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 7: and she brings out up you sleeping in neither calls 357 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 7: you're making exactly. 358 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: That's what I would say as well. TJ. 359 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: W Hoos was out of our guest, former Pro Bowl 360 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver of course, co host of Up on Game 361 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio as well. I want to go 362 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: to this one. He and I were talking a little 363 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: further about it as well. But the Lions bounce back 364 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: in the critical You know, you don't want to start 365 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: a season one two, especially losing two in the Division. 366 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: They don't they win, they put up a fifty piece 367 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: what'd you make of that? 368 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 3: Performance? 369 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 7: Man? The Lions, they was ready for Ben Johnson to 370 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 7: come on on back to Detroit. They were ready for that. 371 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 7: It's just really crazy that Caleb Williams like at the 372 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 7: start of the game. First two games he lights out, 373 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 7: like Ben Johnson and him can really script some plays 374 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 7: to start a game. And then they just completely crumbled. 375 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 7: I don't the Detroit Lions to me needed that, because 376 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 7: after Week one I was like, whoa they really meant? 377 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 7: Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn like what are they going 378 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 7: to do? And they answered the bell? Now I don't 379 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 7: know what. Like. Defensively last year, the Chicago Bears were 380 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 7: pretty good on defense last year. They're atrocious defensively this 381 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 7: year thus far. Fifty one point that's what I get. 382 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 7: And the Detroit Lions team had struggled mightily in Week 383 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 7: one and Dennis Allen's defense gives up fifty one points. 384 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 7: You're a man the man defensive coordinator. When Jamon Johnson 385 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 7: is hurt, he's not playing, you can't play your scheme. 386 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 7: You gotta do what your players do best, not with 387 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 7: what you want to do. And so I thought the 388 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 7: lines played well. Way to show up, I'm and raw 389 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 7: did this thing, Jamison Williams. Way before the draft, they 390 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 7: asked me to name a sleeper receiver. I said, I'm 391 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 7: not gonna name somebody I train. I'm gonna name Isaac 392 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 7: kess Law. And he out there ball and making one hand. 393 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 7: Nobody had never heard of him, and I shot at 394 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 7: he down. Look at him now. 395 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but those catchers are with those sticky gloves. 396 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 7: HEJJ, how many guys are wearing them? Glove? 397 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't care. 398 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 5: TJ can Those are all fraudulent catches, you hear me. 399 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 5: I don't count any of them, DJ zero. They don't 400 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 5: do anything for me. They don't even OBJ. 401 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 7: I know everybody's everybody's wearing them. Everybody make it case. 402 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: There's sticky gloves. 403 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 5: It's like eating sticky wings in Times Square. 404 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: I keep telling them, everybody doing it. Everybody is not 405 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: gonna let me. Do you know that you play football? 406 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 5: They didn't let you use sticky gloves? Know he didn't. 407 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 3: And TJ. You remember, go look at the Sports Illustrated. 408 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 5: They went out and played with with high school kids 409 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 5: and they had them try to catch the football with 410 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 5: no gloves. They gave them no sticky gloves, and those 411 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 5: high school kids caught every single ball that went their way. 412 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: TJ. 413 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: You know what makes a difference, doesn't it when. 414 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 7: You have gloves that have a little stickiness to them. 415 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 7: It makes a difference. Okay, But this is the thing, though, 416 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 7: We're not seeing one hand catches by everybody, and that's 417 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 7: makes that play. You gotta get that player, at least 418 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 7: I do. I'm giving him the credit because we're not 419 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 7: seeing that every week like the d hops. When he 420 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 7: does it, that's expected that that's what he does. 421 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: Made a career. 422 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 7: I don't know. 423 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: I'm not that I'm not that worked up and feel 424 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: that good about it time I see it. 425 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 5: And teaching receivers, all you need to know is we 426 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 5: watched what was it, one weekend of college football, and 427 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 5: they had four of the greatest catchers we ever saw 428 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 5: in the same weekend. 429 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: What does that tell you, gjy Rob. 430 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 7: I came in, I came into the league, man Tim 431 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 7: browned it out, just tape on the fingers, man, and 432 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 7: then I went to playing Pittsburgh. It was got it 433 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 7: got real cold. I put them gloves on. I never 434 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 7: went back to the tape on the fingers. 435 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 3: I bet you didn't. Hey, last thing I want to 436 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: ask you about. 437 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 5: The Ravens are averaging what forty and a half points 438 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 5: a game, and they like they could take the foot 439 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 5: off the gas whenever they want. What do you make 440 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 5: of their offense? 441 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: And it looks like they don't They're not even trying 442 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: really hard. 443 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 7: I don't I tried what I what I tell you 444 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 7: last week you was on John Harbaugh's head. I told you, 445 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 7: I said, Paul's rob they gonna be all right. And 446 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 7: you know, Grant Dell puit uh got him a little 447 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 7: excited talking about they just the Ravens and he gonna 448 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 7: do this and he gonna do that, and they put 449 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 7: him in his place. It's a big game coming up. 450 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 7: I believe they played the Detroit Lions this Sunday, and 451 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 7: the Baltimore Ravens and John Harball normally destroy the NFI 452 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 7: and so I'm eager to see. Now. Defensively, can they 453 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 7: shut a Detroit offense down that just went the work 454 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 7: that we just spoke about against the Chicago Bears. And offensively, 455 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 7: are they gonna be able to go up and down 456 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 7: the field? But Lamar Jackson, Man, you the best quarterback in. 457 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: The league, no doubt, he the best. 458 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 7: He can run him and Josh Allen. You take who 459 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 7: you want. You can't go wrong with either one. But Man, 460 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 7: lamar this dude. The last two seasons, Man, his development 461 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 7: as a passer. You gotta get that young man so 462 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 7: much credit because all he did was going to lab 463 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 7: work and get better and better and better and do this. 464 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 7: Dude is playing football the quarterback position, probably better than 465 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 7: we've ever seen a quarterback do it, at least in 466 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 7: my eyes, I know what throwing. 467 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 5: We He just passed Aaron Rodgers for the best passer 468 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 5: rating for a quarterback in the history of the National 469 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 5: Football He just passed Aaron Rodgers. 470 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 7: And guess what, he's an all time leading rusher for 471 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 7: quarterbacks also, so when have we win a running quarterback 472 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 7: really can't throw the ball, That's what they say. He's 473 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 7: doing both at a high, high level. 474 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 3: TJ. 475 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: We gotta go. But yeah, appreciate you as always. He's 476 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: the best player in NFL the last two three years. 477 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: I've been saying and Rob has been saying it as well. 478 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: It is the odd couple. Thank you, TJ. Appreciate it. Man, 479 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: We'll do it again next week. 480 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 7: All right, keep up the great work. 481 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 482 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 483 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 484 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: listen live. 485 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, everything that could go wrong did go wrong for 486 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Home years against the Seattle Seahawks. Against Sam Darnold 487 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: in the Seahawks. First off, you have Caleb Johnson, rookie 488 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 4: running back. I guess doesn't know the new kickoff rules, 489 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: because he lets the ball go past him into the 490 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 4: end zone, which by the new rules of course of 491 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: atlanticween the goal line and the twenty that ball is 492 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 4: live no matter what happens. And it went into the 493 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 4: end zone, he'd' even attempts to try to recover it. 494 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 4: Seattle rushes down there to get it. They don't recover 495 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 4: it either, but since it goes out of the back 496 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: of the end zone, it becomes a touchdown. So seven 497 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 4: points there. Aaron Rodgers throws two interceptions, including one of 498 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 4: them in the end zone, which after the game he 499 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 4: ended up blaming his receiver. For now, I'm sure he 500 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 4: was right, because even the receivers that he was right 501 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 4: it just wasn't a great look for him to do 502 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 4: that after the game. And the last, but not least, 503 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 4: probably the most egregious thing the Steelers defense. That vaunted 504 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 4: Steelers defense with TJ. Watt and Jalen Ramsey and big 505 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 4: play Darius Slay is currently giving up thirty one and 506 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 4: a half points per game through the first two weeks 507 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 4: and just about four hundred yards per game. Were it 508 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 4: not for a sixty yard Chris Boswell field goal in 509 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 4: Week one, we could be talking about the zero to 510 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: two Pittsburgh Steelers. So, guys, here's the question. What's the 511 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 4: big problem right now in Pittsburgh For me? 512 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: Is what I thought it would be coming into when 513 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: I talked about this last season during the off season. 514 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: They're not good defensively, everybody thinks they are. They're not 515 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: as good as you think. They don't have a running 516 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: back and running game. They got rid of Najie here, 517 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: so they got rid of back, so they don't have 518 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: a running game. And you're gonna need Aaron Rodgers, who 519 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: is not built right now at this point in his life, 520 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: to bring you back. You're gonna have to have some 521 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: games where you're up, have some game where you're controlling 522 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: the clock and have some games where the defense can 523 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: do some things. And I don't think they're built that 524 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: way right now, So they're gonna put him in some 525 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: non advantageous situations. So I don't like the way they're constructed. 526 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: I thought my whole point was they need to be 527 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: building for the future, and they're gonna be putting Aaron 528 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,959 Speaker 1: Rodgers in some positions where he's gonna have to make 529 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: plays that he's not able to. And remember we had 530 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: that was it an anonymous person or executly was talking 531 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: about anonymous coach who was saying, how you know, he 532 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: was watching Week one and there's some throws that Aaron 533 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: Rodgers made off his back foot. He was doing things 534 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: that should have been interceptions and that you can't get 535 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: away with. And even I was like, all right, that's 536 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: a little extra right now, you put a little extra 537 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: sauce on that. As we got a block punt and 538 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: the Texans recovered from the block punt of the Buccaneers. 539 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: We'll get to that just a second. 540 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: There were some throws that Aaron Rodgers made that I 541 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: was like, oh, there's one in fact by the guy 542 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 1: who ended up getting the interception ultimately one you were 543 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: reference Againzo. He threw it right, I mean right at him, 544 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: about ten yards away, directly out him. 545 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: I can't believe he didn't catch that. 546 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: So it's interesting hearing that, me saying all right, come on, 547 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: you put a little extra sauce on that. Then the 548 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: next week, which was yesterday, watching that. So I just 549 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: don't like the way they're constructed. Again, I don't think 550 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: they're that great defensively. You let the Jets put a 551 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: four hundred yards of offense on you, thirty two points 552 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: the Jets. Then you turn around and let Sam Donald 553 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: and his new team do the same as well. So 554 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: I have a lot of concerns if I'm the Steelers 555 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: based off of things I said well before this season. 556 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't think they run the ball, but I don't 557 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: have a single type of running game. This is not 558 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: the two thousand, three, four, five, six, seven eight Steelers 559 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: you picture in your head with big Ben, Jerome bettis fast, 560 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: Willie Parker. This isn't that. And the defense is not 561 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: again in all Pittsburgh Steelers in your head. 562 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 5: Defense, Yeah, it's a defensive problem that they got to 563 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 5: get sorted out. You can't give up four hundred yards 564 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 5: and thirty one or two points a game and expect 565 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 5: to win. 566 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: I don't. 567 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 5: You just can't do it. And then you're adding the 568 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 5: mixing the turnovers. You're not going to have nobody's perfect, 569 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 5: No one's going to be able to have zero, you know, 570 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 5: interceptions and what It's just that's not football, that's not 571 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 5: how it plays. We saw Jared Golf in the postseason 572 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 5: when it you know, when it Matt at most and 573 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 5: all year he didn't turn the ball over like that, 574 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 5: and what happened he had four turnovers. Turnovers are a 575 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 5: part of the game, but you also have to be 576 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 5: able to stop the other team and make the offense 577 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 5: not predictable, and that's what they've been so far. But 578 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 5: there is no future, there is no you're not playing 579 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 5: for the future. You haven't won a playoff game in 580 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 5: almost ten years. That whole idea of building for the 581 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 5: future is now. It's just not where it's really ask you, 582 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 5: I don't because I don't. I don't think that that's 583 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 5: where you are. 584 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: I just when you're saying you specifically, the Steelers are 585 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: your team, any team. 586 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 3: See, that's why I don't agree. I don't. I don't 587 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: agree any team. I don't think that. 588 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 5: That's not the way you go in thinking that, Oh, yeah, 589 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 5: we're gonna we'll build for the next five You the 590 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 5: Minnesota Viking. You got a young quarter you're thinking. No, 591 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 5: I got one of the best receivers in the game. 592 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 5: I got guys who can run the ball. I got 593 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 5: a good defense. No, I'm gonna add him in hopefully 594 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 5: doesn't turn the ball over too much and we can. 595 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: That's the exact team I was gonna say. 596 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: You have Sam Donald, who you figure is gonna be 597 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: at least even fourteen to three. You go twelve and something, 598 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: and you got a chance to JJ is our guy, 599 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: that's our future. 600 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: No, that's not it. 601 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 5: They don't believe in Sam Donald because in the two 602 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 5: biggest games of the year he went the bed and 603 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 5: they don't want to pay a guy like. 604 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: That because they have their guy. They have the guy 605 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: up to get him at twinth. 606 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 5: It was because it was more because they didn't believe 607 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 5: in Sam Darnal. That's so if they really believed in 608 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 5: Sam Donald, they could have pushed JJ another year or so. 609 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: They want to go get It's about That's why they 610 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: didn't even think about Aaron Rodgers because they said we 611 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: have our guy and JJ. That's the exactly you couldn't 612 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: have run up a better example. We have our guy 613 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: and Sam Donald's played well nobody, but you know what 614 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: we're willing to move. 615 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 3: We jumped. 616 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 5: You're talking about about down the road to build for 617 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 5: the future. That's not what people are trying to compete now. 618 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 5: You don't have three years. You know what I don't 619 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 5: have bring up to you, don't you, Matt Flynn. We 620 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 5: gotta guy. Russell Wilson is our guy. We got our 621 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 5: young guy in the future and that guy and that guy. 622 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: My point is you have to start to have to 623 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: do you can have to stay succesful. But that's what's 624 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: the point of being nine and eight, ten and seven 625 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: for one random season they had a playoff game in 626 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: almost a decade. They're trying to this team, that's what 627 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: they're trying to do, and. 628 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: Do that. 629 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: I oh Russell, could. 630 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: I oh Russell Wilson in the pology because I said, 631 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is gonna look like Russell Wilson. 632 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: No, he ain't. Aaron Rodgers ain't throwing no four hundred 633 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 3: and fifty yards and you're tested out like here, I'm 634 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 3: gonna game. 635 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 2: I'm game. 636 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: Luissell Wilson won so far with the four hundreds. He 637 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: ain't doing that guy. I thought so Russell Wilson was 638 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: bad on that bro. I thought I told Aaron Rodgers 639 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: he could be like you, I take that back. That's 640 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: on your boy. I take I own that one. 641 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 5: Just the air is now, you wouldn't be a general 642 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 5: manager long talking about some futures. 643 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: I would know you would because I absolutely with a win. Now, 644 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 3: like a fan of a team that never won. You 645 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 3: like I'm saying, a fan of a. 646 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 5: Team that's never won anything. So you think, no, oh yeah, 647 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 5: we got five years. It ain't no five years, you're 648 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 5: not going to be around. And the NFL stands for NFL, 649 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 5: not for long. And so this whole idea, you put 650 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 5: the best team available. Now, I might not work out, 651 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 5: you might not win. It ain't but you can't do that. 652 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 5: You ain't talking about no next year down the road 653 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 5: or let me get. 654 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: No, you can't. 655 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: If there was somebody who had an opportun tunity to 656 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: build for years, it would be Mike Tomlin, so meaning 657 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: two three years, he's we're gonna find our guy. We're 658 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: gonna start. He's the guy who can because he's with 659 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: an organization. Doesn't fire him. They haven't want a playoff 660 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: game in nine years. What he needs to win, that's 661 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: what he needs to win now, the one he needs 662 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: to win. 663 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 3: Now, that's what it was. Quarterback. 664 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 5: Come on, man, the Steelers win now they need to 665 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 5: win a playoff and they went inside way they need 666 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 5: and they went inside. 667 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: Maybe Russell Wilson light that's your answer. 668 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: Yes, well, then good luck Steelers because you'll be exactly 669 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: where you were last year. Have you'll win, You'll win 670 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: three or four you're gonna lose three or four. Our 671 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, went to the playoffs. Start, they want to 672 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: win a playoff. 673 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: And they win a horrible stretch to the playoffs. Did 674 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: they win did they go to the playoffs that? Did 675 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 3: they go to the playoffs last year? Wait? You just 676 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: said it's about winning. No, I'm asking you. Did they 677 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: go yes? They went? 678 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 5: Okay, did Gorbles win a playoff game? That's the game, 679 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 5: that's not did they make the playoffs game? 680 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: Wait, so that's what they do. So what's the issue. Okay, 681 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: the idea is trying to win a playoff game? Idea 682 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: a trying to five years later. That's not hoping to win. 683 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 3: Nobody ain't nobody, So we can have a five six years. 684 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 3: You know what. Baker Mayfield in the Bucks, they're trying 685 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 3: to win now. 686 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 7: C J. 687 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: Stroud in the Texas, they're trying to win the time 688 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: right now. 689 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 5: And you know what team that's the team that's got 690 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 5: a five year playing with a young quarterback. 691 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 3: Every team that has a young quarterback. 692 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: No, that's not. 693 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: You don't think it's not. You don't think the command 694 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: that's not. They're trying to win. You don't think justin herner. 695 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 3: You got to win. You find your guy. They're trying 696 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 3: to win. 697 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: You don't think Buffalo Bills were excited they found a guy. 698 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: No, you don't. Aaron Rodgers trying to win. They're trying 699 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: to win. That's a terrible attempt to win, is all 700 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Rob, Why don't you disagree with them them? 701 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 3: That's fine. 702 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 5: But the idea in the NFL is to try to win. 703 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 5: Give yourself the best chance every year. Idea it's the best. 704 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 5: And I opening my own as by finding my quarterback. 705 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 5: It's what the it's with the forty nine ers, it's 706 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 5: fifteen teams that need a quarterback? What's finding your quarterback? 707 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 5: Proving this fourteen team? So what does that mean? You're 708 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 5: proving my point? 709 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 3: There's the old guys playing. You know why there's no playing, 710 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: there's no quarterbacks out. You know what you're doing? You 711 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: furthering my point. No, I'm not why I go to 712 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: find my guys. You that's why you want to find 713 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 3: I'm not making your quarterly are I know why I 714 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 3: go to Justin Field? That's the quarterback? How do you 715 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: look this week? You go? How did Justin Field look 716 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: this week? I'm asking you. I don't talk about No, 717 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: I'm asking you how did he look? I'm talking about 718 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: was the quarterback you wanted them to stay with? And you? 719 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 5: How did he look this week with the jetson week took? 720 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: That's all? You can't find your guy, Mardan Aaron Rodgers 721 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 3: ain't seven. 722 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 5: Let's go his last call time. Listen, you go find her. 723 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 5: You just mentioned the fifteen teams. It's the same fifteen 724 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 5: teams who found their guy. Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert Patrick, No, 725 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 5: you missed the point. Jared Goff, Dayton Daniels missed the 726 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 5: bow Nicks. Shall I go down the list. The Rams 727 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 5: have their guy with Jared Golf or not. 728 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 3: No he was They want the guy. They went to 729 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. He wasn't there. They got a chance 730 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 3: to go Matthew the Super Bowl. 731 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 5: What is s Matthew Statthews Stafford was zero and three 732 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 5: in the postseason, but they got him. 733 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 3: Person, That's not why they got him. 734 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: That's not why that Stafford was not a better quarter 735 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: He wasn't a better quarterback. 736 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 3: And the problem was they didn't believe in Jared Golf. 737 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: That's why Fox Sports Rader now Matthew Stafford. At that 738 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 3: time he was terrible. Ox Sports Rader. 739 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 5: I watched every single game of his He was terrible, 740 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 5: still terrible.