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Speaker 4: news out of the NFL yesterday was, of course, shortly

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Speaker 4: after we went off the air, the Buffalo Bills fire

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Speaker 4: head coach Sean McDermott. After nine seasons, a five hundred

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Speaker 4: record in the playoffs and a ninety eight and fifty

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Speaker 4: record overall, he gone following the devastating loss that the

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Speaker 4: Bill suffered at Denver over the weekend. And I guess

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Speaker 4: I shouldn't be surprised at this point. I just thought, Hey,

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Speaker 4: if you want a playoff game, you know, maybe that'll

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Speaker 4: buy you a little bit of time. But apparently time

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Speaker 4: had run out on Sean McDermott, and the Buffalo Bill

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Speaker 4: has now become the top job available with.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen as the quarterback there. So problem go th Cue.

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Speaker 5: I'm having some Internet issues right.

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Speaker 1: I felt as though there were three coaches that were

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Speaker 1: It was Baltimore, it was Pittsburgh, and it was the

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Speaker 1: hitting maybe possibly a ceiling with your star quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: thought the same thing about the Buffalo Bills with McDermott,

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Speaker 1: and and and and with Josh Allen. Did you hit

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Speaker 1: your ceiling as a coach with this player or has

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Speaker 1: this player And this is the hard one to get

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Speaker 1: possibly potentially hit their ceiling? And and and so to me,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I wasn't surprised by it.

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Speaker 2: Again. We brought it up yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We discussed it, and and I know Pete thought get

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Speaker 1: another year. I mean, they did have a little bit

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's because of McDermott or

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know they were a field goald away

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Speaker 6: McDermott has missed the playoffs once and his coaching career there.

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Speaker 6: I actually, when I was looking at the Bills this season,

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Speaker 6: I looked into that's the first thing that you're kind

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Speaker 5: But Buffalo also had their moments.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if you're Josh Allen, you were losing sleep

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Speaker 6: Games over, so there were plays to be had. I

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Speaker 6: But I also think when you're looking at why you

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Speaker 6: I think that's basically been their history. Now is in

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Speaker 6: clearly they feel like there's a window now because Josh

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Speaker 6: Allen's our quarterback, that we're trying to win a super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: We need to find the right guy to get this

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Speaker 5: Get clipped as well. I think he got promoted.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And so you look at that decision and it's like, help,

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Speaker 6: it feels a little bit like maybe that was the

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Speaker 6: if you're going to reset, reset and say we need

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Speaker 6: to find a head coach in general manager who can

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Speaker 6: work together, because that was what.

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Speaker 5: Led you to this point.

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Speaker 6: But now as you want to reset with the quarterback

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Speaker 4: They've had a lot of devastating losses. Obviously the overtime

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Speaker 4: some devastating playoff losses that have taken place with Josh Allen,

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Speaker 4: Sean McDermott. The way they acted after this one, though,

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Speaker 4: without saying it, recognize there's going to be some changes,

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Speaker 4: because Sean McDermott afterwards, you know, talking about I'm standing

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Speaker 4: and all of that that came along with it. Josh

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Speaker 4: Was a conversation, but it felt like they all recognized

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Speaker 2: And I just.

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Speaker 4: Wonder, couldn't it have just been them losing, because to me,

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Speaker 4: it's never sounded like that.

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Speaker 1: And let's say stakes were so high going into that

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Speaker 4: But the stakes have been high in a lot of

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Speaker 4: act like that they didn't handle a couple of years exactly.

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Speaker 2: We're a couple of years removed from that.

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Speaker 4: But you don't think that this one seemed different. And

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Speaker 4: if we're being honest, it's not like you lost to

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Speaker 1: Think there was a difference because they're at a point

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Speaker 1: That's not you know, that's not a military secret. As

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Speaker 1: I think they knew how high the stakes were and

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Speaker 1: they needed to do more and they didn't. And yes,

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Speaker 1: it's different than two years ago, because two years it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: And I felt strongly about the fact that Buffalo was

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Speaker 1: there was going to be something that happened. There you go,

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Speaker 1: what happened.

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Speaker 6: I think the question you brought up though about has

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Speaker 6: Josh Allen hit his ceiling?

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't think he has. I don't think Lamar Jackson has.

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Speaker 6: You know guys who are MVP winners without super bowls.

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Speaker 6: It to me this demonstrates a couple of things. It's

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Speaker 6: so damn hard to win and to win in the

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Speaker 6: if you're bow Knicks right now, you got to be sick,

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Speaker 6: man like, this has to be the most devastating.

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Speaker 5: Injury you've had. Because he's played phenomenal.

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Speaker 6: I don't think he's gotten his due for what he's

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Speaker 1: Right, And that's what I'm saying. Neither neither did Jim Kelly.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna see they're gonna get new coaches, so

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Speaker 6: At some point, does defense win championships? Yeah, if you

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Speaker 1: But when those teams lose. But when the team loses,

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Speaker 1: I didn't make that. That's not mine, that's not original,

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Speaker 1: and and y'all get all the money, and y'all get

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Speaker 1: all the girls. What you're saying y'all for like your quarterback, y'all,

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Speaker 1: I didn't do anything, y'all.

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Speaker 2: You're part of this narrative. I'm with you. Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 5: I feel like you're being racial towards quarter I.

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Speaker 2: Am, I am.

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Speaker 4: I do have a I have a prejudice that it's

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's racist. You're more prejudice. Yeah, correct.

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Speaker 2: If Josh Allen's name was Jerome, he'd win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Hit versions therefore you got me.

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Speaker 1: There you go, And that's not true, Jonas, because I'm

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Speaker 4: I don't care if his name is Jerome, Lamar John,

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Speaker 2: I don't care if you.

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Speaker 5: Hate all of us. You really can't be racist. Towards anyone.

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Speaker 1: That's I'm prejudiced towards quarterback. Yeah, I'm not racist towards

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Speaker 2: I think y'all all right, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, who do you think? They're probably gonna want to

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Speaker 6: It's funny, like even not that mattla Floord ever leaved

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine if Gruton like was in a situation

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Speaker 2: I can't. I just feel like he's been removed for

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Speaker 6: Could you imagine him in Buffalo just crushing Buffalo wings?

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Speaker 5: Talk about spider too? Whye bananas? All the time.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like he's been away too long.

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Speaker 4: You know who is available. It's got some familiarity with

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen. Oh, Brian Dayball, old dump chunk Nuts, Brian Dayball.

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Speaker 4: Why are we retreading though?

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Speaker 5: I just don't because they had a lot of success

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Speaker 2: Callers just not into retrades.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 4: Let's go down and new road. Let's bring in Marcus Freeman.

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Speaker 4: Let's get him out of Notre Dame. Let's let's let's

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Speaker 4: set Notre Dame back a few years. I'll say this much.

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Speaker 4: It'd be hard for I said.

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Speaker 6: This Las like you know last night about Kurt Signetty,

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Speaker 6: that's open, all right. I gotta give that a look,

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Speaker 5: Got assets like that, Yes, you're gonna get I mean,

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Speaker 1: You ain't lying, You are not lying. And it is

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Speaker 1: not October. So I don't know why Orange is a

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Speaker 1: it took me back to I guess because we were

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Speaker 1: talking about coaches and stuff like that. But give a

437
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Speaker 1: lot of credit to Chrystal ball Man. You know, in

438
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: four years time, he's done a tremendous job as well.

439
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: And and and you know, like that Miami team has

440
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: direction now, it's found its identity again. I thought it

441
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: was it was great for college football last night. It

442
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: was a win for college football because one, it wasn't

443
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Speaker 1: a blowout.

444
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Speaker 2: It was a competitive game.

445
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Speaker 1: I thought it was a competitive game against a powerhouse,

446
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: a legendary, storied powerhouse program in Miami, and and a newcomer.

447
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Speaker 1: But I was really you know, I was. I sent

448
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Speaker 1: you out a picture, you know, of me with coach.

449
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: I went to visit them maybe two off seasons ago,

450
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: maybe one off season ago, anyway, and I hung out

451
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Speaker 1: with them at the facility, and you could tell they

452
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: were building something special there. You know, Jason Taylor, the

453
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Speaker 1: way he has the defensive line playing, I mean, all

454
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Speaker 1: the amounts of pressures that they had, the hits that

455
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Speaker 1: they had, and some may be illegal, but I just

456
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Speaker 1: I thought that it was very It's a very commendable

457
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 1: job that Crystal Ball did. I mean, he turned Oregon,

458
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: He took Oregon and turned them into a more competitive program.

459
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Speaker 1: And then they've continued to build from there. I just

460
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Speaker 1: I thought that it should be stated that even though

461
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Speaker 1: in a loss, nobody likes to lose, you don't want

462
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: to see your team lose, and there's no really feeling

463
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: good when you lose the biggest game. Sometimes you probably

464
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: rather not be in the biggest game and lose that

465
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Speaker 1: one versus losing in it. But I thought that Miami

466
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: had a well of a season.

467
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Speaker 9: Man.

468
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Speaker 1: They came out of the ACC, so they represented it.

469
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Speaker 1: You know, you would assume that it would be an

470
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: All Big Ten championship or an SEC Big Ten championship.

471
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Speaker 1: They were the team that emerged out of a different,

472
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Speaker 1: different conference that made it to you know, to the game.

473
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Speaker 1: And I thought that this year's bracket, the brackets were

474
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Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys, but I didn't think

475
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: that it was like last year. And I'll be the

476
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Speaker 1: first one to say, I feel like Penn State benefited

477
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: from a very easy, manageable path to getting to where

478
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: they were able to get to one game away from

479
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: the championship. But I thought this was a pretty competitive

480
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: field this year, and outside of the early games obviously,

481
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: but outside.

482
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Speaker 2: Of that, I thought they were these were.

483
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: Competitive matchups and to see how it played out in

484
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Speaker 1: Miami get through it and be in the championship game.

485
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Speaker 1: I just felt like they deserve to get some flowers

486
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Speaker 1: today as well, even though they you know, they lost.

487
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Speaker 6: Well, I would say this, there's a lot there starting

488
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Speaker 6: with where you ended with Miami, I would actually look

489
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 6: at a little bit different. They've been one of the

490
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 6: most well funded NIL programs over the past few years,

491
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Speaker 6: and I think up until this year, if you asked

492
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 6: Miami fans, they would say there were probably a little

493
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 6: bit disappointed with not seeing greater results for the spend

494
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 6: and for the talent they have and everything else. So

495
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 6: this was a big year for them and like proving

496
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 6: that Mario Crystobal can be the guy. The big question

497
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 6: now moving forward for them is Carson Beck obviously moves on.

498
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 6: They'll have another, I mean both as rushers move on.

499
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 6: They've got another, you know, a group of players who

500
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 6: would be moving on who to me were the backbone

501
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 6: and the foundation of their success this year.

502
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Speaker 5: So I think that's the hard part is.

503
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 6: Is then being able to reload and build off that

504
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 6: and then find whoever that next quarterback is. Maybe it's

505
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 6: Darien Mensa, the quarterback out of Duke. It was rumored

506
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 6: that obviously he had signed a deal with Duke, but

507
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 6: now he was trying to get out to be that

508
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 6: next guy at Miami, which, if that's the case, awesome

509
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 6: for him and awesome for Miami because he's a hell

510
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 6: of a player. But I would actually say, just from

511
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 6: living down there and being around that.

512
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 5: Program and some of the folks there too at the Orange.

513
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 6: Bot, I think there was a little bit to be

514
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 6: desired up until this year, which was obviously a ton

515
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Speaker 6: of fun.

516
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Speaker 1: I heard that. I did hear that, and and I'm

517
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: aware of it. But I just think he maintained the course.

518
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: Like just talking to him and he maintained the course.

519
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 6: I think anyone who talks to Marry Christaball comes away

520
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 6: with loving the man that he is and that you'd

521
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 6: want your son to play for him, and you feel

522
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 6: like he's a leader of men. Like that was my

523
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 6: first impression of him when he took the job. I

524
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 6: would I would go back on the organ thing, like

525
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 6: he was fine at Organ, but like Dan Lanning has

526
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 6: been better, much better, way, way more were developed before

527
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 6: he got there, right, I mean you're talking about going

528
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 6: through the years like obviously Chip Kelly and health Rich.

529
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 6: Even those years where people tend to forget Mark Helfrich

530
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 6: played for a national championship like that, they had to.

531
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Speaker 5: Oregon rolling for a while.

532
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Speaker 6: So I don't know that I look back on the

533
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 6: Oregon years as much other than you know, it kind

534
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 6: of allowed him to get back to Miami, a place

535
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 6: he's familiar with, the place that he played at, which

536
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 6: makes a ton of sense, and I think he's brought

537
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 6: a lot of pride back to the program. So we'll

538
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 6: see what Miami does too. You know, they're playing in

539
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 6: a conference that allows them right now, I think a

540
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 6: clear path because the ACC has been pretty weak. But

541
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Speaker 6: I think the other thing you touched on is just

542
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 6: obviously the twelve team playoff format.

543
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 5: They made adjustments to who those four teams would be.

544
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 6: That got the buy and that's played out to be

545
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 6: more competitive quarterfinal games, which is what we were lacking

546
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 6: last year. Right We kind of had some maybe better

547
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 6: first round games, but then weaker quarterfinal matchups at times

548
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 6: because some of the teams that got to play through

549
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 6: you know, Boise for.

550
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 5: Example, being a group of but being able to get

551
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 5: a buy.

552
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 6: So there's different reasons I think for why it was

553
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 6: a little bit more competitive after that first round. And

554
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 6: I think people have to take into account this if

555
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 6: it expands, which it feels like based on the news,

556
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 6: you know, coming out of the past twenty four hours,

557
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 6: the Big Ten, the SEC can't you know, agree on

558
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 6: what that expansion looks like. So it's probably gonna be

559
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 6: twelve teams for another year because the SEC went sixteen

560
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 6: and the Big Ten ones twenty four.

561
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 5: And we can talk about that another day as to

562
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 5: why that is.

563
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 6: But you're gonna get blowouts, you're gonna get mismatches, you're

564
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 6: gonna get bad games, and I think they're you know,

565
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 6: if you look at the National Championship to your point

566
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 6: of it being a close competitive game, I think the

567
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 6: average margin of victory is about nineteen points per National.

568
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 5: Championship game, at least dur in the playoff era. And

569
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 5: part of the reason for that.

570
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 6: Obviously was the drumming that TCU got when they got

571
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 6: beat by Georgia. But the reality is is, you know,

572
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 6: even if you take that game out, it's probably still

573
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 6: you know, not overly competitive or over a touchdown. So

574
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 6: it was it was a great result to a college

575
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 6: football season and to a sport that. I mean, there's

576
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 6: no doubt they've got its false It's at an odd

577
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 6: time where we enter now into the offseason where it

578
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 6: becomes even more transparent, you know, led the issues that

579
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 6: college football is facing, but at least the game, at

580
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 6: least the product on the field is still as compelling

581
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 6: as ever.

582
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 5: And I think Indiana's.

583
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 6: Win gives every program hope and at the same time

584
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 6: puts a lot of pressure on a lot of blue

585
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 6: blood programs as to what are we doing, you know,

586
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 6: and why are we not doing or implementing things that

587
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 6: they're doing. How are they able to do what they

588
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 6: were able to accomplish this year. We've seen it before

589
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 6: in college basketball, but to see it in college football,

590
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 6: it's a new day, a new age, and it's incredible

591
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 6: to see what Indiana is being able to do.

592
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a fun game last night, just the

593
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 4: especially the way it closed. The Mendoza play Indiana and

594
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 4: that fan base and you know, them coming out to

595
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 4: that game and you know, paying the young godly price

596
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 4: as they did to get out there and take that

597
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 4: stadium over and to have Miami back on the big

598
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 4: stage was awesome. Mario Cristobald, the head coach spoke though

599
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: following the game about his disappointment.

600
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 5: What did you say to your team in the locker

601
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 5: room just now?

602
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 9: I mean, that's a really resilient, tough just really a special.

603
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 5: Group of human beings.

604
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 9: They've alway, they've been a league competitors, They've been the

605
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 9: best thing that's happened to the University of Miami and

606
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 9: the community in twenty five years. They turned around a

607
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 9: program that I mean, I'm really kind.

608
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 5: Of had a loss for words. It was let's just

609
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 5: say that it's very real. You know, we let one

610
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 5: slip away.

611
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 9: Credit to Indiana, great football team, really a tremendous amount

612
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 9: of respect for them. But these guys, our guys never

613
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 9: stopped battling. Resiliency was awesome, like always in at the end,

614
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 9: you know, we had a turnover. That's a really difficult

615
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 9: time in there.

616
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: Keep your head of coach, kept it within the number.

617
00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: That's what's important here.

618
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 5: In issues some of us on with how that all

619
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 5: worked out.

620
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: I thought they would cover her friends friends.

621
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 5: That's a that's a two for right there. Folks. If

622
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 5: you had to pick.

623
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 6: It early like I did, you got an eight and

624
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 6: a half and you got the under a forty eight

625
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 6: and a half, which just snuck in there.

626
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: Carson, what do you worry about the intercept foot bar?

627
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: As long as it wasn't a pick six, It's all

628
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: ebody cares about.

629
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 9: Come on.

630
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, we didn't mention Mendoza.

631
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: We we we talked about how he was brought in

632
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: not the most coveted of transfer portal players, but Beck

633
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: would be considered to possibly have been the most most

634
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: valued player in the portal last last offseason.

635
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: I was there.

636
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: I was with them when they were doing the deal,

637
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: the people who do the deal that was I was

638
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: with them because we were playing in Miami. That was

639
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: the weekend that that was the Orange Bowl week when

640
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: they brought him in.

641
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 6: Well, is that because there wasn't SEC team last year

642
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 6: in the semi finals for the playoff again.

643
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 5: For the third straight year. We basically had is that

644
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 5: what you're you're alluding to?

645
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: Uh? Well, I wasn't alluding to. I mean, I was

646
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: just saying that we were there.

647
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 5: That's why they could do the deal because Georgia.

648
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: Because they weren't there. They weren't.

649
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they want I mean I didn't pay attention

650
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: to all of that. I just I know, I was

651
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: with the guys who got like the guys and they

652
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: got it done. And well, anyway, you saw two contrasts

653
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: and styles in terms of how to build your team.

654
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: Miami has been more profile, a high profile with who

655
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: they brought in. You get a Beck, he's a high

656
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: profile transfer portal guy. You know, Mendoza Wasn't you know

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Speaker 1: that You look at these guys on Indiana. It almost

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Speaker 2: It almost had.

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Speaker 2: And Indiana did show up.

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Speaker 4: and subscribe. So the Tennessee Titans have found their guy,

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Speaker 4: reportedly going to hire former Jets head coach, former Niners

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Speaker 2: It was some.

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Speaker 4: Rumblings that Matt Naggy was going to be the guy,

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Speaker 4: but reports indicate that the Tennessee Titans preferred organizational restructuring

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Speaker 4: in Tennessee, for whatever that's worth and whatever that means.

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Speaker 4: So Robert Sala is back and away we go with

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Speaker 4: the Robert Sala experience in Nashville.

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Speaker 6: Which it's interesting because it's like Matt Naggy and Robert

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Speaker 6: Sala have both been head coaches before, so I'm not

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Speaker 6: really sure if they just feel like Robert Saal in

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Speaker 6: his relationships with some of the folks there the Tennessee

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Speaker 6: you know, he's learned more. But whatever the case may be,

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Speaker 6: it doesn't matter. Like I think, Robert Saal obviously got

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Speaker 6: a crap bag when he was in New York, so

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Speaker 6: I'd like this opportunity for him to see what he's

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Speaker 6: capable of being.

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Speaker 2: So this isn't a crap bag.

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Speaker 5: Well, what I'd say is it it has the potential

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Speaker 6: And much like I said when Brian Callahan got hired,

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Speaker 6: they got to give him time. Like if you give

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Speaker 6: him two years and you expect him to turn this

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Speaker 6: thing around in two years, they're just not there, like

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Speaker 6: they're not ready for that yet.

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Speaker 5: And so I I you know, as.

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Speaker 6: Far as the hire goes, we'll see, but none of it,

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Speaker 6: no one's going to matter if you don't have enough

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Speaker 6: way they're going to need to.

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Speaker 1: It's it is a crap bag in my estimation. And

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Speaker 1: but do you have to take a job in Tennessee

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Speaker 1: right now, a job in New York right now the Jets.

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Speaker 1: That's a crap bag. Yeah, But here's my take. You

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Speaker 1: got to take the job now. I believe this will

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Speaker 1: be his last time being a head coach. But you

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Speaker 1: can get that job, you can get the pay that's

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Speaker 1: connected to that job, and you can all he's go

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Speaker 1: back to being a successful coordinator. He'll always he'll always

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Speaker 1: be able to get a coordinator's job. And he's done

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Speaker 1: a fine job as the coordinator for this this one

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Speaker 1: season with uh with with the San Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's the right decision for Robert Salah

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Speaker 1: to do, and I think that the thought process is

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Speaker 1: correct in terms of giving it time. But is he

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Speaker 2: A good move.

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Speaker 1: I don't think his track record, his body of work

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Speaker 2: I mean, the big question mark, we are going to get.

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Speaker 4: Sla versus Liam Cohen twice a year though, Yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 6: We can get which is interesting too because the Jaguars

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Speaker 6: obviously some red ass to all of that, but on

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Speaker 6: ultimately didn't get. So twice a year now, sign up

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Speaker 4: And also so Matt Naggy left the Chiefs as offensive coordinators.

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Speaker 2: See who the chief just brought back, And they.

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Speaker 4: Just brought back Eric b Enemy and Matt Naggie doesn't

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Speaker 4: have a job, So what's gonna happen. Is he just

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Speaker 4: gonna Is he gonna get one of these other vacancies,

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Speaker 4: one of these other openings that are out there in

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Speaker 4: the NFL. Or Is he just going to go back

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Speaker 4: to get out of his office, you know, move your

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Speaker 4: stuff out, get back to Chicago, will be a running

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Speaker 4: backs coach. Just felt like apparently yesterday Naggie was in

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Speaker 4: the building for an interview in Tennessee. Robert Sala wasn't

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Speaker 4: supposed to have his until the next day, but they

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Speaker 4: decided to do it yesterday as well too, and then

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Speaker 4: they came to term shortly afterwards. So something Sala said

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Speaker 4: must have sold him on a go in that direction

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Speaker 4: and not Matt n Aggie. So congratulations, and now we're

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Speaker 2: Sala. Liam cong on twice a year in the NFC South,

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Speaker 2: So I'm talking about

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