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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff Three and Out

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Speaker 1: podcast on this beautiful, beautiful I can't even say that

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Speaker 1: beautiful Thursday afternoon. May one went outside today eight plus degrees.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully wherever you are, the sun is shining. I know

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Speaker 1: many people listening. Your states are open, you can go

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Speaker 1: to restaurants, you can live life. I don't stay to

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Speaker 1: California counties left and right around me. Open it up.

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Speaker 1: It feels like we're trending in the right direction. It's

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Speaker 1: been along sixty plus days, but it does feel like

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Speaker 1: there's some light at the end of the tunnel. It's

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Speaker 1: okay to smile, it's okay to celebrate, you know, businesses reopening.

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Speaker 1: Only place in the world where that's a polarizing topic

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Speaker 1: would be on social media. But it feels like we're

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Speaker 1: we got the train back on the tracks, which job

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we said about a month ago.

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Speaker 1: But there's still some football stuff going on. Even mid

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Speaker 1: quarantine is the O t A s are basically canceled

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Speaker 1: and everyone's zoom meeting. We had. The big story that

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Speaker 1: was making its waves was about Jay Glazier's comments on

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill, and it kind of blew up on the

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Speaker 1: different shows, and I'll dive into that off the top.

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Speaker 1: Someone reached out and like Middle Cough Coward does a

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Speaker 1: Herd hierarchy. Uh, every week during the season, you should

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Speaker 1: do one too. I'm like, well, I'm not big into

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Speaker 1: creative and figure out my own things. Though, that is

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Speaker 1: maybe why he's the best in the business. But one

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Speaker 1: thing I was thinking of, why don't we do this? Uh,

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Speaker 1: don't know about every week, but maybe we could revisit

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Speaker 1: it once a month or maybe every other week. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what. We'll see A great part about podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can do whatever the hell you want. I thought,

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Speaker 1: we'll do my Elite eight and we'll call it Middle

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Speaker 1: maybe we could revisit it every month in the fall.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of what I was thinking, But who who knows.

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Speaker 1: We'll just we'll see where the Wind Takes Us Again podcast. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and then of course Middlecoff mail back at John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: is my Twitter handle, my Instagram handle. Direct messages are open.

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Speaker 1: Ask a question. It's the People Show. We take your

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Speaker 1: questions on the show. Read them For those of you

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Speaker 1: And also I appreciate everyone doing this, and I know

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Speaker 1: keep telling your friends about the podcast. But let's start

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Speaker 1: with this big story on Thursday. I guess I think

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Speaker 1: talking to everybody. Absolutely. They got every single GM and

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Speaker 1: this is the year Drew Brees signs a contract with NBC.

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Speaker 1: Last year, he threw seven million interceptions. He also did

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Speaker 1: that you're not gonna win the Super Bowl every year.

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Speaker 1: And the Niners could be better this year and not

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Speaker 1: even make it back to the super Bowl. But to me,

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Speaker 1: based on the offseason, based on their core guys, based

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Speaker 1: on what they added, even though they did lose somethings,

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Speaker 1: some of that's their own choosing. Uh. I put the

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Speaker 1: Niners at one number two. I thought this was the

430
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Speaker 1: second best team in the NFC last year, and they

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Speaker 1: end up becoming the three seed and they lost in

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Speaker 1: the first round. But that was the Saints. And there

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Speaker 1: was a portion during the season where I thought they

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Speaker 1: were a little, you know, more well rounded than the Niners.

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Speaker 1: And then the Niners played him and beat him by

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Speaker 1: two points. But they were just they were both the

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Speaker 1: cream of the crop, and somehow Kirk Cousins beat him.

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Speaker 1: I still don't know how that happened, but it happened.

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00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: I think Stands are gonna be really good. They had

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Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders. They've been desperately looking for a second wide

441
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Speaker 1: receiver for a long time. Manuel was pretty good last

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Speaker 1: year when he got traded forty Diners. He was a

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Speaker 1: big reason they went on that kind of second half run.

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Speaker 1: And we're in the Super Bowl and hell, Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: doesn't throw at five ft too far. Niners might be

446
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Speaker 1: champs and Emanuel Sanders be a hero for you know,

447
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Speaker 1: for the Niners. But they had him their defensive solid,

448
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: their whole coaching staffs coming back. Drew Brees comes back.

449
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Speaker 1: They got Kamara and Michael Thomas and the peak of

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Speaker 1: their powers. They got a really good offensive line. Division.

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Speaker 1: Kind of sucks. The Panthers aren't gonna be any good.

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Speaker 1: Who No, Falcons are just always average. Uh. I like

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Speaker 1: the Saints a too. This is where it gets a

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Speaker 1: little hard in the NFC, uh, because part of its projecting.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go with Philly here. Now, Philly had

456
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Speaker 1: a million injuries last year that their entire team was injured.

457
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Speaker 1: But you saw at the end of the season until

458
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Speaker 1: he got a concussion in the playoff game, when Carson

459
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Speaker 1: Wentz flips a switch. He might not be Mahomes, but

460
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Speaker 1: he ain't far off. He can dominate. And they draft

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Speaker 1: a first round receiver Al Shan's coming back. Hopefully he's

462
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Speaker 1: in a better mood. Uh that they should just Miles

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Speaker 1: Sanders now has a full year under They'll adjust their

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Speaker 1: offense a little bit. They got two really talented tight ends.

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Speaker 1: They do lose Jason Peters, who was getting along in

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Speaker 1: the tooth, but they were replacing with a first round

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Speaker 1: left tackle. They have an excellent interior offensive line. They

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Speaker 1: still have Fletcher Cox. Uh, they add Darius Slay. Doug

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Speaker 1: Peterson has proven it in big games. He's he can win.

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Speaker 1: I mean, up until last year he had won. He

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Speaker 1: won a playoff game, you know, the previous year against

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Speaker 1: the Bears on the road with foals again, So I

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Speaker 1: I like the Eagles. I just I like your quarterback

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Speaker 1: a lot. Now, if you wanted to push back, you

475
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Speaker 1: go john He's always hurt. Yeah, he's got to stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: But when he was healthy, which he was last year,

477
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Speaker 1: played sixteen games that second half of the season when

478
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Speaker 1: he kind of figured it out, and he's playing with

479
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Speaker 1: Greg war Jr. He's playing with guys that look like me.

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Speaker 1: It's like, who are these guys? Every dude's going down

481
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Speaker 1: like Lane Johnson's out. This guy gets hurt. This guy

482
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Speaker 1: gets hurt, it didn't matter. I think Philly, if Carson

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Speaker 1: can stay healthy, has a chance to be really, really good.

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Speaker 1: My fourth spot. I don't like this roster that you

485
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Speaker 1: could argue, how are you gonna put Seattle above green

486
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Speaker 1: Bay or hell even Minnesota? Dallas too much unknown with

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Speaker 1: dak new coaching staff and Corona, I I can't put

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Speaker 1: them at four. The Rams not quite good enough. I

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Speaker 1: went to Seattle. Now, I would probably just take on

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Speaker 1: paper the Packers, but you know, Seattle lost to Green

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Speaker 1: Bay last year. They were another team that had a

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Speaker 1: million injuries. I'm betting on the culture. I'm betting on

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Speaker 1: the coach because I'll take Pete Carroll over the floor

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Speaker 1: any day of the week. I'll take at this point

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Speaker 1: in time, like in two thousand twenty, I'm taking Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson over Aaron Rodgers. And I just think their culture again,

497
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Speaker 1: they were so decimated by injuries at the at the

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Speaker 1: end of the season, they were a shell of themselves.

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Speaker 1: But never forget they were within an inch last year

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Speaker 1: an inch a Dre green Law incredible play at the

501
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Speaker 1: goal line of winning the NFC West, and they were

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Speaker 1: not as talented as the Niners now they win. They

503
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Speaker 1: pulled more games out of their ass than any team

504
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Speaker 1: probably like sports history the last couple of years. But

505
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Speaker 1: they win every freaking year since Russell Wilson became the starter.

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Speaker 1: They missed the playoffs one time, and that was three

507
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Speaker 1: years ago and they went nine and seven. All they

508
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Speaker 1: do is win, and the division is gonna be really

509
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Speaker 1: tough this year. Arizona plays them well, the Rams playing well,

510
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: obviously them in the Niners have fantastic battles. But you'll

511
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Speaker 1: look up and Seattle will be ten and six or

512
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Speaker 1: eleven and five, and just I'll be off season. I

513
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: don't even love their off season. You know they're not

514
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: bringing Clowney back. I don't love their pass rush there.

515
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: I mean way in a corner. They got arrested for

516
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Speaker 1: something that might have robbed his own stuff back. Who

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Speaker 1: even knows what's going on, But you got Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: d came, Metcalf looks like a star, Tyler Lockett's a stud, uh,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner is still around, and just that culture on

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Speaker 1: defense that they might have guys that you haven't really

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Speaker 1: heard of. Not many like the LB ain't walking through

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Speaker 1: that door. But I saw them live last year. And

523
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Speaker 1: every time they tackle someone, they tackle him violently. There's

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Speaker 1: a culture there that Pete has. They always compete. You

525
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Speaker 1: can make fun of him for being you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of cheesy or whatever. Ship works because they're just really good.

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Speaker 1: And and you look up and it's the second round

528
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Speaker 1: of the playoffs and there's the Seattle Seahawks every freaking time.

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Speaker 1: And if the pending on injuries, you know, if the

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Speaker 1: right if they're playing at home, all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: NFC championship, there they are. So I would have the Niners,

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Speaker 1: Saints Philly in Seattle as my four in the NFC,

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Speaker 1: and in my FC the top two are Easy Chiefs

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens. Then I'd go Bills and Titans. The

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Speaker 1: Middle Cooff Elite eight. Okay, time to dive in to

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Speaker 1: a little something we call the Middlecoff mail bag at

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff Instagram handle, follow it and shoot me a question.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's attack. Hey, John, fan of the show,

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Speaker 1: Ravens fan, And yes, I understand I'm biased. Since you

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Speaker 1: begging for questions, here's one. Uh, here's a good one

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Speaker 1: and a long one. You wrote a lot, but yeah,

542
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: it's I like long questions. What are the Ravens up to.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's arguable that they are one of

544
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Speaker 1: the better run franchise, but by how much? Seems like

545
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: Da Costa's playing chess. While there's a plan checkers before

546
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: we even discussed players, they retain their entire offense and coordinators.

547
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Speaker 1: Losing Wink or row him would be more detrimental to

548
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Speaker 1: the team than any player outside of Lamar. Agree than

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Speaker 1: the players. While I'm a huge fan of Lamar, I

550
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: think he fell into the best possible situation. Agree. Coach

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00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: and GM and his staff know what they're doing, built

552
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: accordingly a defense that smothers any receivers. Agree, Agree, Agree.

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Speaker 1: While I hope Lamar stays healthy and breaking ankles for

554
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Speaker 1: a long time, if he has injury concerns come come

555
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: his contract time, do they resign him to a big deal?

556
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: Is a reasonable strategy to draft a skilled, intelligent athletic

557
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Speaker 1: and probably run uh and probably run him into the

558
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Speaker 1: ground before he gets paid, and then not pay him

559
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Speaker 1: when he can earn a big contract like Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 1: I'm torn. How much time in quarantine I guess or

561
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: too much time in quarantine? I guess? Yeah, I mean

562
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Speaker 1: I I think sometimes we and if you're the general

563
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: manager of coach, you have to think big picture. But

564
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: as fans, I think they did a good job in

565
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: the Michael Jordan documentary and it's easier as a player,

566
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: but I think sometimes as a franchise, you just gotta

567
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: live in the moment, and I think too often and

568
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: we all do this right professionally, personally, what's gonna be?

569
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Speaker 1: What what I'm shooting for in three years or five years?

570
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: I think that Tom Brady documentary that's coming out, he

571
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: spoke about always just being present, and I think sometimes

572
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: just like, let's just enjoy Lamar Jackson for Lamar Jackson.

573
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Speaker 1: And I wasn't a big Lamar Jackson guy coming out.

574
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Speaker 1: He has been very fun to watch and he's been awesome.

575
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's only he's only going into year three.

576
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: You don't have to pay him till technically after year five,

577
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Speaker 1: So just just enjoy it, you know. I don't know.

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00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: I don't even think they know. And let's just see

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Speaker 1: how this year goes. And then this year goes well,

580
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: and maybe they take a step and win a couple

581
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Speaker 1: of playoff games. We'll see how next year goes. I

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Speaker 1: just I think we're always in a rush, and we're

583
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Speaker 1: doing it with my homes, Like, what's he gonna make?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, he's going into his fourth year. Why

585
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: don't they play it out? I mean, what what's what's

586
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: always the rush to pay everyone at the first pops

587
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Speaker 1: possible moment. Now there's a balance with other you know,

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Speaker 1: d lineman and wide receivers, you want to kind of

589
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: pay him early. But I think with quarterbacks, especially one

590
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: like Lamar, where it's just like no player his style

591
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: has ever had a dominant tenure career. I mean they

592
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: were running option last year. Just let's just enjoy it

593
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Speaker 1: and just see where it goes. But I don't think

594
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Speaker 1: we need to be in a huge rush. And I

595
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: think sometimes and I'm not acting like I'm not guilty,

596
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: but I think sometimes we we just we kind of

597
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: put the cart before the horse. What are your thoughts

598
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Speaker 1: in the Bear's quarterback situation? Us reasonable fans of known

599
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: Mitches and the guy for a couple of years, and

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Speaker 1: I think changing offense a second year stunt, his stunted

601
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Speaker 1: his development. Folds and Naggy have a history together from

602
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Speaker 1: Philly in Kansas City, but it's safe to say Nick

603
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: struggled his starter in Jacksonville. I mean, he broke his

604
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Speaker 1: collarbone a week one after throwing one of the best touchdowns.

605
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Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to judge him coming back

606
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Speaker 1: to a shitty team like that first game. Who knows

607
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Speaker 1: what influence, if any, do you think Naggy and Folds

608
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Speaker 1: relationship will have on the quarterback race and you think

609
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Speaker 1: Nick is a solution to the passing game or just

610
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Speaker 1: the I've got guy under center in the last twenty years,

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Speaker 1: go Bears. It is pretty wild that, you know, one

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Speaker 1: of the more famous flagship franchises of the NFL in

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Speaker 1: a sport, that you become famous as a franchise for

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Speaker 1: your quarterback, right or your coach. But Seattle really became famous.

615
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, the Niners, Montana Young right, and then Kaepernick, uh,

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Speaker 1: the the Eagles, Donovan McNabb, now Carson Wentz, the Patriots

617
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Speaker 1: Brady and then before that Bled So the Jets. You

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Speaker 1: think Nameth right now, you think hopefully Sam Donald becomes

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Speaker 1: a guy, the Bills, Jim Kelly or or you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: Marv Levy, the Miami Dolphins, Marino Peyton man. You just

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Speaker 1: far your quarterbacks kind of make your friends. The Bears

622
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: are never really had one. How they never had a

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback's kind of nuts. But to your question, I

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Speaker 1: think I just think Folds will be the starter. Now,

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Speaker 1: how good is Foals? That's a hell of a question.

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Speaker 1: I don't pretend to have the answer to you, Terren.

627
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: Mitch and they went eight and eight with Mitch so

628
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: and Chase Daniels, so he's he's better than that. I

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Speaker 1: have two suggestions for the NFL and would appreciate your opinion. One,

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Speaker 1: Steal the concept of conditional protected picks selections from the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Uh conditional? Don't they have conditional picks? Now? Oh? You

632
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: mean in trades. Steal the concept of loaning players from

633
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Speaker 1: European soccer explanations. One say, if the Browns wanted to

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Speaker 1: trade for Jamal Adams and the Jets want their two thousand,

635
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Speaker 1: twenty one first round pick, brown counter. The Browns counter

636
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Speaker 1: by placing a top ten protection on the first round picks.

637
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: If the Browns pick one to ten, it would keep

638
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: it and instead give the Jets to second rounders, depending

639
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: on how it's negotiated. But if the Browns pick from

640
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Speaker 1: eleven to thirty two, then the Jets would get it.

641
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: I think that would increase the flexibility for teams and

642
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: increase the number of traits. Absolutely love the idea. You know,

643
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: don't quote me on this, but I think there are

644
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: provisions in the league by laws against this. Uh. That's

645
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: remember when because in the n b A you can

646
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: trade for salaries, right, I can trade you picks for

647
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: salary cap if I have space. The Browns got some

648
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: heat from the league when they basically bought brock ice

649
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: Wiler for a second second round pick. The league is

650
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: not okay with that. That that's what makes the NBA

651
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: style trades and I'm an agreement. I think it would

652
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: add some juice to everything. Right, if we have a

653
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: super high pick, conditional picks, I'm with you. Two. If

654
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: Stidham stinks and the Patriots lose his first six games,

655
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots can then look to loan off some of

656
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: their star players the title contenders in return for something

657
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: draft picks. This would be beneficial for title contenders teams

658
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: the opportunity to put all the chips towards the middle

659
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: of the table. A win for bad teams as they

660
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: can acquire more draft picks, A win for players on

661
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: bad teams to potentially become a Super Bowl champion, a

662
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: win for the media. The only losers short term and

663
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: all this is probably the fans. I'm not a soccer

664
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: aficionado EPL. I've watched Little ep L. I'm a I'm

665
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: a World Cup guy. No, don't get me wrong. Soccer

666
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: is growing. I mean a soccer becomes, you know, probably

667
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: the second biggest sport in America over the last twenty years,

668
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: which sounds crazy, but it's coming that way. It's you know,

669
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: you look at viewership numbers like baseball, basketball, Get ready

670
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: because it's coming for you. I'm not opposed to this

671
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: line of thinking, but my question would be, so if

672
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm the Patriots and I'm two and six and the

673
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: trade deadlines there, you're saying, I could like loan them

674
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, or loan them Thuney, or loan them Devin

675
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: mccordy and get like a fourth round pick and then

676
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: I get them back at the end of the season.

677
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: That would be pretty nuts, and I would imagine teams

678
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: don't necessarily go for that, though. What's the difference in

679
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: like the Niners trade and a third round pick for

680
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders and he's a free agent, right, So whether

681
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: you're loaning a guy where he's becoming a free if

682
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: you're getting a loan guy or free agent, why do

683
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: you care? So you might you might be honest something

684
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: there see us? So I need you guys. You guys

685
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: got a lot of ideas. I really like the idea

686
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: of conditional picks. But back to what I said, I'm

687
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: pretty sure it's against the rules. With been big Ben

688
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: back and seemingly healthy, what do you think the stealing

689
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: the ceiling can't even speak is for the Steelers in

690
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: two twenty In two thousand and eighteen, Ben was playing

691
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: at a very high level, maybe through a few too

692
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: many interceptions, but you live with that. With the style

693
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: of play, in my opinion, the Steelers offense could be dangerous.

694
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: Deante Johnson is a future star and I think he'll

695
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: be another number one white Out for the foreseeable future.

696
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: The receiving corps solid with Juju and Washington and Claypool.

697
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: In the addition, I think want to punch of Ibron

698
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: and McDaniel is all muh dance. McDonald is also very solid.

699
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: In the backfield is stacked with talented running backs. My

700
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: thing is is he's thirty eight years old. I know

701
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: he looked pretty good thrown to those guys on Instagram

702
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: or Twitter or wherever he did it. And I'm with you.

703
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: He he had. They had been playing well in like sixteen,

704
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen, you know, when he was healthy there there

705
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: with Antonio, with Levian getting juju, when their defense was good.

706
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: Their defense is good now that they were a they

707
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: were a legitimate threat. The one year when Levian got

708
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: hurt against the Patriots, I thought, that's earlier in that

709
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: season before what's his name, I don't know. My brain

710
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: is failing me right now. Ryan Shay's here got hurt.

711
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 1: I thought they were the best team in the league,

712
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: and now their defense is kind of back up to par.

713
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: You would think last year they trade for the middle linebacker,

714
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: they add Minka, they got a sweet pass rush, they're

715
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: kind of getting their Pittsburgh Steelers swag back. It's just

716
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: you can't win with Duck Hodges or Mason Rudolph. So

717
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: there's no way Ben is not better than those guys.

718
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: I just I get nervous that he's gonna get hurt again.

719
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: And at thirty eight injuries, we saw what happened last year.

720
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: An injury turns in the entire season is over, so

721
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: that that, to me is the only thing that I

722
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: kind of have them red flag. If he plays solid,

723
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: they're a lock playoff team. Now are they going to

724
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: beat the Ravens and win the division? Probably not. But

725
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: if you tell me Ben plays fifteen games, they're in

726
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs, which I don't. I mean, your Steelers. You

727
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: gotta be happy with that and then take your chances.

728
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts in Jacoby Brisett. It's his NFL

729
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: future and what the Colts may do with them. I

730
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: believe he's the top quarterback went on the field, but

731
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: there isn't much of a difference in the group from

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Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty five. Yeah, I I would put him

733
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: definitely in the twenties. I think he's a slow processor.

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00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: I think he's a bad athlete. And in two thousand

735
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: and twenty, if you can't move, it's tough, you know,

736
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Speaker 1: and that's gonna be I guess they got a really

737
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: good offensive line in Indie, but rivers can't move. The

738
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: day and age of guys not moving, just look at

739
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: all the good quarterbacks in the NFL. Mahomes Russell, Wilson, Lamar, Sean,

740
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, WinCE that the DAC. You know, Tom Brady

741
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: is the last of a dying breed. But those guys

742
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: eli retired. I mean, Breeze is about to be done.

743
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: You gotta have some mobility. I think the day and

744
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: age of the Stiffs are just done the game. We

745
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: just don't play the game like that anymore. The rules,

746
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: the amount of offensive lineman coming in the league. I

747
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: just I think Jacoby is okay. I think he's a backup,

748
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: but that's probably about it. What does the Steelers? What

749
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Speaker 1: do the Steelers do if Ben comes back the season

750
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: and has a very productive year, if we can make

751
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Do we sign someone like Rosen and let

752
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: him learn under Ben one more year? Or do we

753
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: shoot for a quarterback in the draft. I know no

754
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: one feels confident in Mason or Duck true. Will the

755
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh make a trade for a higher pick or see

756
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: wherever they land in the draft and see what's available

757
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: The quarterback may be available in the future. I think

758
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: that's back what I was saying about Lamar's contract, Like

759
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: I you know, I get it's Kevin Colbert's job to

760
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: think like this, But you just Ben comes back healthy

761
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: if you can get a guy like Rosen to back

762
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: him up right now, because Mason stinks and Duck's not

763
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: better either. So you just get a good quarterback room

764
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: with an aging veteran and just take your shot. And

765
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: then in the next offseason, maybe you sign a guy

766
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: like Jamis. Maybe if someone becomes available for trade. Think

767
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks are in the NFL now, I think

768
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: you'll have options. I don't think you need to worry

769
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: about next draft. Just worry about Ben staying healthy and

770
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: trying to make a run this year. That to me,

771
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: is all I'd be worrying about. If I was a

772
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: Stealer fan. What do we have to do to keep

773
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger up right, to keep his body parts intact and

774
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: make the playoffs? You went eight and eight with the

775
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: worst two quarterbacks that were functional in the league, and

776
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: it's because your defense is sweet. Well, now you've got

777
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: a functional quarterback problem. I just can't get back. I

778
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: think he's played full seasons and like four the last

779
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: I heard the stat the other day on the radio,

780
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 1: like four the last nine seasons. Like he just doesn't

781
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: stay healthy and he's coming back from a major injury.

782
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: I know he shaved his beard and the mayor of

783
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh got mad at him, and just like yeah, Rossberg

784
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: shaved his beard. Get over it. Good morning. John. Just

785
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: wanted to drop in and say thanks for putting out

786
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: great content. It's easily the top podcast listened every week.

787
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: I guess no question here. I don't want to just

788
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: read a compliment to boost up my own self esteem,

789
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: so we'll move on. Thanks appreciate that, Cody. The past

790
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: few years, the league MVPs have emerged onto the scene

791
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: out of pretty much nowhere. Mahomes Lamar Jackson. Can you

792
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: see this happening again this year with Sam Donald with

793
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: improved offensive line and weapons? Well, what really are as

794
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: improved weapons? I mean they drafted a wide receiver in

795
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: the second round. They have Levy on Bell I have

796
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: to bring. They lost Robbie Anderson. You know Randy Moss

797
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: and Jerry Rice aren't walking through that door. I just

798
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: don't know if they have enough. I don't think he

799
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Speaker 1: could put up the stats to win the m v P.

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Speaker 1: Now could their team be good enough? If their defense

801
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: is better and their offense is just solid With Adam

802
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: gaze and their middle of the pack both places and

803
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: compete to win eight nine games. I think that's possible,

804
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: but I would be I would be floor. And I

805
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: think Sam Donald one day can win an m v

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Speaker 1: P when they get better players around him. But I

807
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: think given their roster, it's just a it's just a

808
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: lot to ask, and it's to me, it's unrealistic. I

809
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: think it'd be more likely that Josh Allen, with you know,

810
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: some wide receivers, the running backs, just his ability to run,

811
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: would probably be a sleeper m VP candidate. And that's

812
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: a pretty big sleeper, right. I was listening to podcast

813
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 1: the other day and they were talking I was listening

814
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: to a podcast the other day and they were talking

815
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: about arm strength of certain quarterbacks. I noticed what they

816
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: said did not line up with what I had previously

817
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: thought about those quarterbacks. For example, I think most people

818
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: are in consensus that Mahomes and Stafford have elite arms,

819
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: but guys like Jimmy Dak Goth Jamis, I feel like

820
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: a very mixed things said about their arms strength. Could

821
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: you give us the tears of quarterbacks based on arm strength, Yeah,

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00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: I would just say best pure arm would probably be Stafford.

823
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: If you were just if we do this, let's just

824
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: use baseball, Stafford would be like a raldis Chapman can

825
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: throw like a hundred and two. To me, my Homes

826
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Speaker 1: is probably more like a synder Guard or a de

827
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: Gram Like he can pump like, but it's really all

828
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: his other stuff, like his accuracy, his ability to throw

829
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: on the move, his arm angles Like I don't look

830
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: at my Homes throwing like a hundred two miles an hour. Uh,

831
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: then I would Then I would put guys like Wentz

832
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: has a huge arm, Josh Allen has a huge arm.

833
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of going off the top of my head.

834
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Speaker 1: I think when you think like middle tier arm strength,

835
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Speaker 1: you think like a dack a Goff. I mean that's

836
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: just like solid NFL arm strength. Jimmy, I think Russ

837
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: has a beautiful deep ball, and when he really wants

838
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: to put something in it could throw like I'd say

839
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Speaker 1: like Jimmy g Goff doc or like ninety three. I'd

840
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: say Wins and Josh Allen are like hundred. I mean

841
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: they're throwing gas just kind of Matt Ryan's would be

842
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: like a throwing like ninety one. Brady. You know, I'd

843
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: say Brady's peak when he was just humming in this

844
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Speaker 1: decade was like ninety six, but he was just dominant,

845
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Speaker 1: you know pinpoint. Uh. Drew Brees would be like a Maddox,

846
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, throwing about ninety. Deshaun Watson actually is one

847
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: of those guys that would be like a you know,

848
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: like a Roy Halliday. He because he throws like ninety two.

849
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: But he's just he's just a playmaker, you know. Cousins

850
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: would be low nineties. Uh. Kyler Murray's got a pretty

851
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: good arm. Kyler Murray could sling it. Kyler Murray's got

852
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: a hose. Uh. You know, it's weird, It's like foals.

853
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he throws that hard, but he can

854
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: throw it really far. Donald kind of the same thing.

855
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: Doesn't throw it really hard, but can throw it really far.

856
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins, I don't even have a no no take there.

857
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: I haven't watched him throw enough. Uh. Tah would be

858
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: probably like but really accurate. Burrow probably about the same

859
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: low nineties. So I'd say Staffords the cream of the

860
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: crop with Wentz and Josh Allen kind of right there.

861
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: Mahomes kind of gets more hype, but I think Mahomes

862
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: would be like would would be like one of the

863
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: Mets guys that it just has the whole package, but

864
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: he's actually good, but he's like comes through like Madison

865
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: bum Gardner. Um, do you like my baseball analogy there?

866
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty good. That was a good.

867
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: That was a good because I think we get you know,

868
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: that thrown out a lot. You know, most starters in

869
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 1: the NFL have average two above arm strength, like relative

870
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: to Stafford. They might not have a strong arm, but

871
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: even Alex Smith, like Alex Smith's arm was fine. It

872
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: was average, it was functional. That's where I think sometimes

873
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: weak arm quarterbacks when they get to the playoffs because

874
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: what happens in the playoffs usually playing cold weather. Now,

875
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: if you're playing in a dome, like Philip Rivers, who

876
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: now throws, I'd say Philip Rivers stors about eighty eight now,

877
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: But if he's in a dome, he could function. In theory.

878
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: Now that Brady has moved out of the a f

879
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: C East, thank god, what do you think of the

880
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: other than the Patriots? Do you see taking commanding lead

881
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 1: of the division over the next five to seven years.

882
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: I would lean the Bills, but that a huge you

883
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: know reality with my Bill's take is based on Josh

884
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: Allen continue to improve. If I had to pick one

885
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: of the three quarterbacks to ah with a questionable hip,

886
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Sam Donald for the next five seven years,

887
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: I take Sam Donald. The Bills are literally the best roster.

888
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: Sam Donald I think has the highest ceiling, and the

889
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: Dolphins feel like they know what they're doing. But still

890
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: a lot of unknowns. So in the short term you're

891
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: definitely betting on the Bills, but I wouldn't count the

892
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: Jets or the Dolphins out. I think the problem with

893
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: this question so many unknowns because Adam Gay is gonna

894
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: be the coach there next year, Like if they win

895
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: six games, he's gonna get fired, and Joe Douglas gonna

896
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: hire his own coach. Is too even gonna be healthy

897
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: because to stay healthy he gets he's been hurt every

898
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: year he played in college. He started right, And the Bills, like,

899
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: if Josh Allen just stays the same, they'll be like,

900
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: you're consistent nine ten playoff team and just be one

901
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: and done. So you could argue Belichick and it pains

902
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: you to hear this, but he could be floating around there.

903
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: If he gets decent quarterback plays, he's the best coach

904
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: in the division's best coach in the league. Um, but yeah,

905
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: I think division is wide open. I think short term

906
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: the Bills are the clear favorite. But the next three

907
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: or four years, you know, it's whoever gets the most

908
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 1: offensive weapons, whoever can find pass rushers, who whatever coach

909
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: kind of emerges. Because Brian floor is a really good coach.

910
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: Everyone in the media acts like Brian Flores is Don Shula.

911
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: He won four games. Now, I get it, he did

912
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: with a crappy roster, but he won four games. No

913
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: coach in NFL history has gotten more credit for winning

914
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: four games. Brian Floors rightfully so traded away everybody, but

915
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: it did lead them to the fifth overall pick. I

916
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: wanted to get your opinion on the potential uh Layton

917
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: vander esh and Jalen Smith and Nolan's multi defense. They

918
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: look like superheroes as it is and have all the measurables,

919
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: But do you think Nolan can get all the talent

920
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: on the field? Full disclosure, little biased. I don't think

921
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan's that good. I'm a big Mike McCarthy fan.

922
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: I like the Cowboys roster love Jerry Jones. I get

923
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: that Mike Nolan kind of made Mike McCarthy's career, made

924
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: him an offensive coordinator a year later against the Packer job,

925
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: I just can't believe they hired Mike Nolan to be

926
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator like the defense that they were running

927
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: with the Saints. Maybe wouldn't name him the defensive coordinator

928
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: in the Saints they chose Dennis Allen. Now, I get

929
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy can't hire another defensive coordinator. All these

930
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: guys have jobs, but I don't know now, Mike Nolan's

931
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: good with linebackers. They drafted Patrick Willis. Patrick wils was

932
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: really good. Those guys are gonna be good to me.

933
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: My bigger question mark is now they also hired Jim

934
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: tom Seula. He's a really good defensive line coach. Can

935
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan dial up coverages? I'm not worried about that.

936
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: Those two guys are healthy. They're gonna kick ass, and

937
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: their pass rush with tom Seula is gonna be good.

938
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: But the NFL and winning in the NFL is about

939
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: playing chess and to be a good defensive coordinator, it's

940
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: about calling the right coverages against top offenses, and look

941
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: who they gotta play, Doug Peterson, Kyle Shanahan, Russell Wilson,

942
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh, like it is a big chess game. Is

943
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan good enough? Because the head coach is gonna

944
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: be I know he's technically not calling plays, but he's

945
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: an offensive guy, so it's all it's Mike Nolan's got,

946
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, full reins to do whatever the hell he wants.

947
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: Is he good enough? I I don't to google. I

948
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: don't think he's been a defensive coordinator in a long time.

949
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: When's the last time Mike Nolan's been a d C.

950
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm actually kind of interested right now. I

951
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: know he's not a head coach. I just when I

952
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: think Mike Nolan, I think position coach, and he's a

953
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: good position coach. But then he becomes the Broncos defensive

954
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: coordinator for a year, then the Dolphins defensive coordinator for

955
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: two years, then the Falcons defensive coordinator. Okay, so he

956
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: hasn't been a defensive coordinator since two thousand fourteen. Linebackers

957
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: coach with the Chargers took a year off, and then

958
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: the Saints linebacker coach the last two years. I don't know.

959
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a hater. I just just

960
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: being honest, big fan, I'd love to hear your thoughts

961
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: on Kyle Whittingham and the disappointing Utah seasons. Ever since

962
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: the Sugar Bowl they have been pretty sad, but always

963
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: in the range of winning the conference and choking. Yeah,

964
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna push back. I mean, they were just in

965
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: the Pact Wealth Championship. Within this decade, they were not

966
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: a Power five program. They've moved to the Pack twelve.

967
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: They have easily become a top two or three program

968
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve. They're producing a ton of NFL guys.

969
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: They are constantly beating programs that they have. No, they

970
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: shouldn't be able to beat USC, they shouldn't kick U

971
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: c l A's ass, and they do. They shouldn't be

972
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: able to beat or you know, I guess it didn't

973
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: be o Organ but the Washington, the Washington like they are.

974
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: Without the Utah in the Pact twelve, patrov would be

975
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: in trouble, you know, Thank God for Utah, or else

976
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: would just be like Oregon in Washington some years. To

977
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: say they've been a disappointment. I gotta push back. I

978
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: think Kyle witting Hand has been fantastic. Matt, I think

979
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: it's been awesome. I mean, they win nine ten games

980
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: every year. They produce I think I think they had

981
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: like seven or eight guys drafted. I think how many

982
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: Utah guys you see in the NFL. They're all over,

983
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: and not just all they're on good teams. I know

984
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: there's a very broad question, but Brady or Bill, who's

985
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: more responsible for the dynasty? In my opinion, Brady, I

986
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: could go into crazy detail if you want, but only

987
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: if you reply L O L. By the way love

988
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: the pod. You know it's gonna sound like a cop out.

989
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: And I was taught early in my radio career never

990
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: sit on the fence. Have an opinion to me, this

991
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: one is like, I think it's fair to say they

992
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: both played a huge role. You can't win without a

993
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: good quarterback that's proven, and you can't win with a

994
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: shitty head coach. And when you put one of the

995
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: best quarterback ever with the best coach ever. Like, here's

996
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: what I know, Brady couldn't start at Michigan. Here's what

997
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: I also know, Bill Parcels couldn't have won super Bowls

998
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: without Belichick. He admitted as such. He said that Bill

999
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick devised the game plans to shut down Walston

1000
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: the Niners, which they did twice on their path to

1001
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. You you hear Montana talk Walshington around talking anymore,

1002
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: but Montana and those Niners team talk about playing those

1003
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: New York Giants teams. Their schemes were writ insane. Belichick

1004
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: was gonna win. Now, would you have won six? I

1005
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: don't know, Probably not, definitely not, But what do you

1006
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: want a couple? He would have found a Jimmy Garoppolo.

1007
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: He would have found Deshaun Watson. He would have found someone.

1008
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: He did find Jimmy, he would have found a quarterback eventually.

1009
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 1: He's just too dynamic of a coach, just like Tom.

1010
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer the cream always rises. Tom would

1011
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: have succeeded, but for whatever reason, like he couldn't started Michigan.

1012
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: Now he overcame it. But like what Belichick was gonna

1013
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: be good? Here's what I know. Belichick was gonna be

1014
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: an all time great again six both Probably not, but

1015
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: he would have won a couple pretty clear because you've

1016
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,479
Speaker 1: we've all watched his games and the ship he does

1017
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: is insane. Right, no one argues that we're Brady, Like,

1018
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: what if Brady got drafted instead of by Belichick in

1019
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: the six what if like the Arizona Cardinals picked him

1020
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: where the Jaguars picked him. We're just some terrible franchise

1021
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: picked him. Allions, do we even know who Tom Brady is?

1022
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm the biggest Tom Brady fan you'll meet.

1023
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I've nothing but ad Murray for the guy.

1024
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: I think he's the greatest quarterback of all time. He

1025
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: was more dependent on the circumstances than Belichick because those

1026
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: first several years their offense or their defense was unstoppable,

1027
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: and Belichick's moves as a GM just look at the

1028
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: twenty years. Guy's a genius. And I'm talking about a

1029
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: guy that missed on some draft picks. Doesn't even face him.

1030
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: He makes the best trades always, he always has. So

1031
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: I would probably lean Belichick if I if I was

1032
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: gonna get off the fence, I'd go like Belichick over Brady.

1033
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: So that's kind of a cop out. But I'll lean

1034
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: Belichick because he would have found a quarterback and there's

1035
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: no guarantee of if Tom Brady instead of drafted pick.

1036
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna pick some you know, two oh seven

1037
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: to the Lions. I mean it's Tom Brady, just some

1038
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: good looking guy that used play in the league. Probably

1039
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: appreciate everyone listening Three and Out podcast. Thanks uh for

1040
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: going to the apple Itune leaving your reviews, and I

1041
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: just want to I appreciate everybody and have a great

1042
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: Is it a WORL Day weekend? I don't even is

1043
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: it Memorial Day weekend? I think it might be Corn. Yeah,

1044
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: it is Momorald. Happy Momorial Day weekend. Everybody, Uh, stay safe,

1045
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: you enjoy the weekend. Se