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Speaker 1: What's up everybody. Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: I'm Channel Room, joined as always by Tyler Stafford and

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Speaker 1: a very special guest on this Sunday afternoon, New Astro's pitcher,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Weiss. Ryan, appreciate you taking some time out of

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Speaker 1: your off season to talk to us. How are you

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Speaker 1: doing and have things settled down yet a little bit,

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure this off season has been pretty crazy

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, first and foremost, thanks for having me, guys. I mean,

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Speaker 2: in terms of have things settled down, I would say

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Speaker 2: they have not settled down. I think that's kind of

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Speaker 2: normal coming back from Asia, though. It seems like you

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Speaker 2: need at least like a week or two to get

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Speaker 2: your feet like ready from jet lag, and then it's

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Speaker 2: like there's just been There's been a lot going on,

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Speaker 2: but it's been a lot of good so it's hard

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Speaker 2: to complain.

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Speaker 1: I would encourage everyone that's listening, whether you're on YouTube

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Speaker 1: or whether you're on the audio platforms, to go give

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Speaker 1: Ryan a follow on TikTok. I'm not sure, yes, I'm in.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many people. I'm not sure how

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Speaker 1: many of our pod listeners are TikTok people. But Ryan

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Speaker 1: is a TikTok guy. His handle is Ryan M. Would

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Speaker 1: highly recommend giving Ryan a follow for a couple reasons. One,

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Speaker 1: it allows you to get to know him a little bit,

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Speaker 1: allows you to really get some insight onto his experience

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Speaker 1: in KBO and Korea. But I think it also tells

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Speaker 1: your backstory probably better than you know. We could be

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Speaker 1: beat around the bush with it. You know, you've got

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Speaker 1: such a remarkable story of perseverance and kind of how

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Speaker 1: you have gotten to this point. So I guess I wonder,

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Speaker 1: given all of that, given everything you've had to endure

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Speaker 1: going to Asia, everything you had to endure in your

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Speaker 1: amateur life, you know, before you got to college, things

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Speaker 1: like that, how fulfilling is it now to have a

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Speaker 1: guaranteed major league contract in your hands, a place on

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Speaker 1: a forty man roster, and a spot in a big

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Speaker 1: league rotation waiting for you when you get to West

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Speaker 1: Palm Beach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of the TikTok stuff, I I can't

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Speaker 2: take any of that credit. Uh, it is my wife.

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Speaker 2: She she kills it. She does such a good job.

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Speaker 2: I probably don't even know how to post. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean in terms of like the fulfillment. I think

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Speaker 2: if you asked me that, like a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 2: I would have been like, this is everything, But now

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Speaker 2: that's it's just not the I've I just feel like

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Speaker 2: I've matured a lot, and I don't idolize baseball the

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Speaker 2: way that I used to think. Like Christ has just

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Speaker 2: become a huge part of my life and everything goes

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Speaker 2: goes to him, and so I mean, it's gonna be exciting.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm excited to to get there, but I've been

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Speaker 2: on a lot of different teams within the last few years,

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Speaker 2: so I'm just excited to kind of get to get

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Speaker 2: to know my new teammates and just talk shop in

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Speaker 3: So I have a Q so, you know, for those

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Speaker 3: that don't know, you know, and you've been over in

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Speaker 3: both China and then you know the Atlantic League as well,

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Speaker 3: and then Korea, so I have a quite like in

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Speaker 3: the last two years you were dominant over there, like

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Speaker 3: you were, you know, just crushing people. What is it

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Speaker 3: like going from Okay, you know, obviously I've seen your

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Speaker 3: your college status of you were just ridiculous. You're redshere freshman,

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Speaker 3: you're hitting bombs, striking people out or whatever. But I

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Speaker 3: feel like you've had this kind of career where you've

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Speaker 3: gone from okay, top of the team, like I'm the

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Speaker 3: and not even making it, then going back being this

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Speaker 3: huge part of this team over here to now being

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Speaker 3: on an Astros team where you know that that's not

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Speaker 3: gonna be the first fifteen names on opening day that

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Speaker 3: anyone is you know, thinking of not in a bad way,

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Speaker 3: but just that's the way that the team is set up.

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Speaker 3: How do you like, could just who you are in

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Speaker 3: make sense? Like do you how do you fill those roles?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that's I mean, that's a really good question.

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Speaker 2: I think the younger me, uh, try to be a

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Speaker 2: be me. If you like that, great if not. Like,

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Speaker 2: everyone's different, so it's like you're you in some regard,

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Speaker 2: like everybody, every one of your teammates is your coworker,

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Speaker 2: but at the same time they can become your brother.

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Speaker 2: So it's like it's it's a it's a very interesting dynamic.

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Speaker 2: And I think going to indie ball and then going

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Speaker 2: going from thirty five guys or thirty guys that speak

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Speaker 2: one or two guys. And so I was pretty blessed.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of guys on my team that in

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Speaker 2: but this year, because they got to practice a lot,

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Speaker 2: to kind of witness. But yeah, I would just say

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Speaker 1: You last pitched an affiliated ball in Stateside, You last

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Speaker 1: pitch an affiliated ball in twenty twenty three. Yeah, how

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Speaker 1: different are you now? How different is the pitcher now?

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Speaker 1: That was from when you were here in twenty twenty three?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, first off, when I was in twenty

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Speaker 2: end of sorry, most of twenty two and then twenty three,

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Speaker 2: I was a reliever. I don't like being reliever. I

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Speaker 2: believe that I'm a starter. We had some really good

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Speaker 2: prospects that were coming up with the d Backs, and

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Speaker 2: I kind of hit like a little I kind of

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Speaker 2: kicked me to the bullpen. And those guys are doing

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Speaker 2: really well now, I mean, that's just kind of nature

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Speaker 2: so they deserved that spot and they earned it. And

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Speaker 2: so being able to go act to being a starter.

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Speaker 2: I like the routine. I like knowing I'm gonna get

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Speaker 2: like knowing that I'm gonna be able to flip the

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Speaker 2: order over hopefully on a good day four times, worst

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Speaker 2: case three, right, But that's I just like to compete,

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Speaker 2: and I hate going to pitch for one inning or

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Speaker 2: like all right, like now we're in rhythm, Like now

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Speaker 2: we're kind of the zone. Like sometimes it takes a

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Speaker 2: say being a starter is uh has been a lot

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Speaker 2: a lot more freeing for me. It's been a lot

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Speaker 2: more fun.

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Speaker 1: Is that? Is that what me the astros so attractive

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Speaker 1: to you is because I mean, they have opportunities to start.

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Speaker 1: This is not this is a place that obviously needs

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Speaker 1: rotation help. And just in general, your conversations with the

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Speaker 1: Astros what intrigued you the most about them because you

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Speaker 2: M hm yeah, I would say, uh. I think the

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Speaker 2: the way that Dana was speaking, just the the way

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Speaker 2: that he kind of showed that he believes in me

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Speaker 2: and that he he kind of, for lack of a

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Speaker 2: I believe in myself and I know there's a lot

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Speaker 2: But I do best when when someone really believes in me,

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Speaker 2: and when I know the coaching staff and the team

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Speaker 2: is behind me. That really helps when I whenever I'm

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Speaker 2: in a situation where it's like, oh, you, if you

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Speaker 2: Like that's a different kind of pressure. Like I'd rather

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I don't, I don't

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Speaker 2: very willing to go back overseas. I mean, we my

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Speaker 2: So that's why we that's why we decided to do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna ask. I mean, obviously I would

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Speaker 3: assume that you love playing overseas. You wouldn't keep doing

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Speaker 3: it if you didn't want to do. The city that

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Speaker 3: you were in is Dejon Jean, That's right. Okay, So

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Speaker 3: I've I've googled the you know, just trip Advisor things

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Speaker 3: you know that place? I do not, Dude, Okay, well

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Speaker 3: it's number four. So if you get back over there,

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Speaker 3: it looks like Disney World, but it's an amusement park.

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Speaker 2: I'm more of like a like we like to do

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Speaker 2: It's it's unreal.

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Speaker 3: So I mean what you're you're like, what are you

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Speaker 3: doing other than I mean obviously I know what you're

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Speaker 3: doing during games, but like what does what does life

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just depends what if we have an off

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Speaker 2: with my parents that ever, we went fishing one day,

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Speaker 2: Shindan is like a really famous bakery in Dejon. So

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Speaker 2: so it's so different. It was cool when we were

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Speaker 2: just really cool because there's way more history in Korea

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Speaker 2: it's probably wild to think about. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: it's it's just super interesting, super cool.

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Speaker 1: Did you enjoy the nickname that you got in Dejon

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Speaker 1: you are? You are Dejon Jesus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was tough. I mean, especially being

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Speaker 2: you're like saving, like, y'all need to chill, Like, I'm

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Speaker 2: just I'm just Ryan, Like I'm not I'm not even

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Speaker 2: Ryan the baseball player. I'm just Ryan, Like I'm just

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Speaker 2: trying to go out there and try to win a

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Speaker 2: it was like it was kind of a way for

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Speaker 2: me to lead them towards Christ in a little bit,

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Speaker 2: like just trying to give God the glory. But at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, I'm like, y'all need to like,

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Speaker 2: y'all need to chill.

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Speaker 3: How the long hair and beard isn't doing you any

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Speaker 3: favors that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in terms of the baseball we all

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Speaker 3: I think your your first batting practice with Jordan Alvarez

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you that he's got Jews, but there's there's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have a pre existing relationship with anyone

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Speaker 2: I was. I was in spring training with Christian Walker

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Speaker 1: So four Astras fans that are listening to this have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've foreseen fastball, slider, curveball, and then

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I got news for you. You also throw

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, Yeah, I was gonna ask. So, Like, obviously,

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Speaker 2: then let's just be mature, have to have a conversation

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm super interested. I know that it's a

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Speaker 1: It's one thing you keep mentioning about, you know, being

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Speaker 2: Mine's pretty bad? Mine's pretty bad. I pretty much only

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Speaker 1: I think that's how I am with spent with Baseball Spanish.

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Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite K pop Demon Hunters song?

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Speaker 2: Golden, I mean it's It's election of course.

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Speaker 1: One thing that's always been interesting to me and I

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Speaker 1: They they ask very specific questions, like they want to know,

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Speaker 2: the how you pitched today was good, not like, oh

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Speaker 1: Like again, I don't know how much media exposure you got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a it's more like talent here.

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Speaker 3: first start, just extremely detailed every thought in the game.

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Speaker 2: We'll see who's catching me.

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Speaker 1: I do wonder, you know, Tyler, just reference after your

434
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Speaker 1: first start that will be your major league debut. Has

435
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Speaker 1: that has that kind of hit you yet or or

436
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Speaker 1: do you think it'll maybe wait till like the day

437
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Speaker 1: it actually happens.

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Speaker 2: Nah. I think when I was on the forty man

439
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Speaker 2: with the d Backs, I was I mean, I was itching.

440
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 2: I was itching to get up. Same with the Royals,

441
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Speaker 2: I was itching. I put so much thought into it's

442
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Speaker 2: gonna sound funny, but like what I was gonna wear

443
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Speaker 2: to the stadium on my debut, Like I like, I

444
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Speaker 2: was like all into it, and now I just like

445
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Speaker 2: I think I thought about it too much to where

446
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Speaker 2: it was like unhealthy, and like that's why going to

447
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Speaker 2: Cree was so good for me, because I just completely

448
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Speaker 2: removed myself from like all of that. And so I

449
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Speaker 2: mean it's like I said, it's gonna it'll be cool,

450
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Speaker 2: I think, But like I'm just I just want to pitch.

451
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Speaker 2: I just want to compete and hopefully we win. Like

452
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Speaker 2: that's really all all that matters at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious, what what what allowed your mind to shift,

455
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Speaker 1: Like was it simply going to Korea or was like

456
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Speaker 1: what what all you to make that draft such a

457
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Speaker 1: drastic change, because that does seem pretty like a drastic

458
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Speaker 1: difference in the way of thinking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think I was idolizing it. I don't

460
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Speaker 2: think I was as secure in myself and and and whatnot,

461
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Speaker 2: and I was just idolizing the thought of being a

462
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Speaker 2: big leaguer, and I was like, it's really like I'd

463
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Speaker 2: rather be a better person, which I try to be.

464
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Speaker 2: I'm probably not, but I try to be a better person.

465
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Speaker 2: And then like baseball will be what it's gonna be,

466
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Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna I'm just gonna trust in God

467
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Speaker 2: and trust that whatever plan he has is what I'm

468
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Speaker 2: supposed to do. And if this is where he wants

469
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Speaker 2: me to be, then I just want to be able

470
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Speaker 2: to impact people around me. And yeah, like what I

471
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Speaker 2: want to say, I probably shouldn't. So yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 2: probably what.

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Speaker 1: It's probably good good answer media training already. I don't know, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: this has been excellent. I appreciate you taking We appreciate

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Speaker 1: you taking time to talk to us today. We told

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Speaker 1: you we keep you fifteen to twenty minutes. We're going

477
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Speaker 1: up to twenty two minutes now, so we like to

478
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Speaker 1: be like to be true what we say.

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Speaker 3: So about the shortest Chandler's done, actually because normally he

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Speaker 3: lies and then we're here two and a half times

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Speaker 3: what he says. So he got you out on time today.

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Speaker 3: He didn't like, Yeah, that's what he was.

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Speaker 1: Okay, don't put words in my mouth. Come on, that's

484
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Speaker 1: that's not cool.

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Speaker 2: Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Again, this was excellent. Again, if you want to see

487
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Speaker 1: Ryan and his wife's work on TikTok, Ryan M Ryan

488
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Speaker 1: m weiss on TikTok. I think that will allow a

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Speaker 1: lot of you to to really appreciate kind of what

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Speaker 1: it was like in KBO, what Ryan, kind of how

491
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Speaker 1: Ryan got to this point and you can know a

492
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Speaker 1: lot more about him before reporting to West Palm Beach

493
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Speaker 1: in February for spring training with the Ashers. Ryan, this

494
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Speaker 1: was great. Thank you so much for the time, and

495
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Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of your off season.

496
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Speaker 2: Sounds good, guys, Thanks for having me.

497
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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Ryan Tyler. How dare you? He's he's

498
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Speaker 1: never met me, and now you're trying to and now

499
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Speaker 1: you're trying to run against me, and.

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Speaker 3: All these American media people are idiots, you know.

501
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Speaker 1: I mean he I mean he just met me, so

502
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Speaker 1: I mean it's he stands out.

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Speaker 3: He was He was great. That was fun.

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Speaker 1: That was great, That was awesome. Appreciate Ryan, Appreciate him

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Speaker 1: for taking some time. I know it's the off season.

506
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Speaker 1: I know he's got many other things. He could do,

507
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Speaker 1: many other things he could be doing instead of talking

508
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Speaker 1: to two idiots like us. So that's nice of him,

509
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Speaker 1: and it also allows us to, you know, keep content

510
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Speaker 1: going when there's nothing going on. Because the Astros ended

511
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Speaker 1: the Winter meetings with one notable thing. They picked Rottery

512
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Speaker 1: Munos in the major league portion of the Rule five draft.

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Speaker 1: They haven't done this in a while. They haven't had

514
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Speaker 1: a major league Rule five pick, I believe since Anthony

515
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Speaker 1: Ghosts in twenty seventeen. That was the hitter that was

516
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Speaker 1: trying to convert to a hitcher. Yeah, so a little

517
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Speaker 1: refresher on how the Rule five draft works on the

518
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Speaker 1: major league phase of the Rule five draft. If you

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Speaker 1: do what the Astros did and you take a player

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Speaker 1: in the major league phase of the Rule five draft,

521
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Speaker 1: so that's Rodberie Munos. He has got to remain on

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Speaker 1: the astros twenty six man roster all season or else

523
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Speaker 1: he is going to be offered back to the club

524
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Speaker 1: they took him from. That club was the Cincinnati Reds.

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Speaker 1: He was on the Reds. I think he was in

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Speaker 1: dfa limbo. He was in the Reds organization, so he'd

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Speaker 1: be offered back to them. The Astros also gave the

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Speaker 1: Reds one hundred thousand dollars to make the pick. I

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Speaker 1: believe if they offer him back to the Reds, they

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Speaker 1: get fifty grand of it back. So again splitting hairs

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Speaker 1: with money. But Roddery Munhos will be someone that they're

532
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Speaker 1: going to bring him to camp, and obviously, I mean

533
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Speaker 1: he's got to stay on the twenty six man roster,

534
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Speaker 1: so he'll have a leg up on a lot of

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Speaker 1: the guys trying to win bullpen spots. They do envision

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Speaker 1: him as a reliever. They envision him as kind of

537
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Speaker 1: a high leverage reliever. This is a guy that does

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Speaker 1: have major league experience. Appeared in twenty seven big league games.

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Speaker 1: He started seventeen of them, but he was maybe he

540
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Speaker 1: was a more traditional lever with the Cardinals last year.

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Speaker 1: They really like the breaking ball. They think they can

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Speaker 1: get him around the zone a little bit. Again, the

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Speaker 1: Astros have morphed into one of these places where if

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Speaker 1: they take a picture that they like, I just presume

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Speaker 1: he's going to come to spring training and be a

546
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Speaker 1: lot better than the Baseball Reference indicates he is. So

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Speaker 1: they have that with Rodery Munoz who was their only

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Speaker 1: addition at the winter meetings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he he I'm looking at his Baseball Savant page.

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Speaker 3: Lots of whiffs and strikeouts, not a lot of other things.

551
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Speaker 3: But you know, that certainly seems like the type of

552
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Speaker 3: picture that if you can unlock something, he's already getting,

553
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Speaker 3: you know, a ton of whiffs on pitches. So if

554
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Speaker 3: you can, like you said, get him around the zone

555
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Speaker 3: some more, you know, maybe cut back on the pitch.

556
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Speaker 3: Us that he used five different pitches pretty regularly last year,

557
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Speaker 3: I would imagine that the Astros want him to really

558
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Speaker 3: focus on a handful of them coming out of the bullpen.

559
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Speaker 3: But yeah, we'll see. And like you said, you know,

560
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Speaker 3: he's got to stay there the whole time. And I mean,

561
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Speaker 3: if they try to or if they take him off,

562
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Speaker 3: he just he said, goes back to the Reds or whatever.

563
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Speaker 3: And I don't know the percentages on this, but it's

564
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Speaker 3: it's not the majority of people that are picked in

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Speaker 3: a Rule five draft that stay with the team that

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Speaker 3: drafted them, right, Like most of them end up going back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you see a lot of rebuilding teams

568
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Speaker 1: do this, right. You see a lot of teams that

569
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Speaker 1: are not trying to win, like take advantage of the

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Speaker 1: major league portion of the Rule five draft because they've

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Speaker 1: got spots and like they can afford to give these

572
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Speaker 1: dudes runway, so because they don't care if they win

573
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Speaker 1: or lose at the big league level. So it's like

574
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Speaker 1: if they get a couple of these dudes in the

575
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Speaker 1: Rule five Draft and they unlock something in him, it's like, oh,

576
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Speaker 1: we got found money here, Like we got we got

577
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Speaker 1: this guy. Like they have the runway to do that. Now,

578
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Speaker 1: normally you don't see teams that our contenders are that

579
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Speaker 1: want to contend be very heavily involved in the Rule

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Speaker 1: five draft. You know, some of the bigger success stories

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Speaker 1: you've seen in the Rule five draft new Garrett Whitlocke

582
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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. I think the Red Sox

583
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Speaker 1: took him from the Yankees in the Rule five Draft

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Speaker 1: and he turned into a really nice reliever. I think

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Speaker 1: Brad Keller was a major league Rule five pick.

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Speaker 3: Josh Fields, which you know helped the Astros out a

587
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 3: bit eventually. But he was a Rule five pick.

588
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Speaker 1: That helped Shane Smith, who was an All Star for

589
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Speaker 1: the White Sox this past year. I think he was

590
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Speaker 1: an All Star, but yeah, he was a Rule five

591
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: pick like so, but again, like the theme is like

592
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Speaker 1: it's usually guys. It's usually teams that don't plan on contending,

593
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Speaker 1: that have playing time to give, and that don't really

594
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Speaker 1: worry about per se like roster spots because they have

595
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Speaker 1: runway to give these guys now, I mean RODDERI munhos Is,

596
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: the Astros would have run if he comes to camp

597
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: and pitch as well, like they've got you can all

598
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: you can never have enough relievers, right, you can never

599
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: have enough pitching, never have enough of that. The Astros

600
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: last year built their bullpen on guys that maybe going

601
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: into camp you didn't think we're going to be factors,

602
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: and then showed up and were factors. And there's a

603
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: lot of volatility and there's a lot of variability in

604
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: the relief market. So they must feel strongly that they

605
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: can unlock some things in Munno's and get him to

606
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Speaker 1: where that he can be a viable member of their

607
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: bullpen all year. Now. I know there's a lot of

608
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: people thinking, well, what about if he gets hurt? Him

609
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: getting hurt, it doesn't really affect much as long as

610
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: he is on the Major League injured list, Like it's

611
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: all about like he's got to be accruing service time.

612
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Speaker 1: So if he gets hurt in spring training and they

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Speaker 1: put him on the injured list, like he's still with

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Speaker 1: the Astros, the only way that he would have to

615
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: be offered back to the Reds is if the Astros

616
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Speaker 1: decide he's unusable, like we can't keep him on the

617
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: Major League ross. We're either going to DFA him put

618
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 1: him on waivers. I should have looked up a few

619
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: of those options left. I doubt he does. But essentially,

620
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: any way of not getting hurt that they would want

621
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Speaker 1: to get him off the twenty six man roster, they

622
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: would have to offer him back to the They would

623
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Speaker 1: have to offer him back to the Cincinnati Reds, and

624
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Speaker 1: they would get fifty grand backs.

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Speaker 3: So for those of you who don't, I'm sure most

626
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Speaker 3: people do. But the purpose of the Rule five draft

627
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: is if a player has been in an organization for

628
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Speaker 3: what is it, six years, yeah, seven years, something like that,

629
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Speaker 3: uh huh yeah. Once once you hit that amount of

630
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: minor league service time and you're still blocked by your

631
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: own organization. It's essentially a way for these players to

632
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: have the ability to be selected by another team to

633
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: be on the major league roster there. So basically it's like, Okay,

634
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: you've been here for you know, seven years, we don't

635
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: have a major league spot. If another team has one

636
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Speaker 3: for you, go ahead. You know, that's that's essentially what

637
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: the the purpose of that draft is. And you know,

638
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: there have been some successful ones. The Ashers got Willy

639
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: taveres In in a Rule five draft, Wesley Wright, who

640
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: was very good for them when they were very bad.

641
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: But I liked Wesley Wright a lot as a fellow lefty.

642
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: But you know, the the Ashers have had a handful

643
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: of impactful ones, but oftentimes it's guys like these where

644
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 3: it's you know, utility infielders or you know, relievers, stuff

645
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: like that, where you know, if they have a good year, great,

646
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: but you know, if not, they head back to the

647
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Speaker 3: team that they were on.

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Speaker 1: You're forgetting. Maybe the one the best Rule five draft

649
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Speaker 1: pick the Ashers ever had. It was the first. It

650
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Speaker 1: was the first transaction made by Jeff Lunos, mar Right,

651
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Speaker 1: Marlin Gonzales.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't popping up. I've I've talked

653
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Speaker 3: Jeff about that before and he claims no credit obviously,

654
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Speaker 3: because it was the first day of his job. But

655
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Speaker 3: it worked out pretty well for him to have that

656
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Speaker 3: on his ledger of first transaction under his name, getting

657
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Speaker 3: Marwin Yeah, technically a good one.

658
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Speaker 1: I think they officially they hired him because they finalized

659
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Speaker 1: his higher at the winter meetings that year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

661
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Speaker 1: I think he got hired like the night before the

662
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Speaker 1: Rule five rat Yes, so like the next day they

663
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Speaker 1: took Marlon Gonzales and then like five years later hits

664
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Speaker 1: the biggest home run in franchise history. So our second biggest,

665
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Speaker 1: second biggest, depending on who you want a debate about

666
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Speaker 1: that issue.

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Speaker 3: The first was Darryl World Awards Grand Slam against the

668
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Speaker 3: Pirates on Opening Day in two thousand and two or

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Speaker 3: whenever that was. That one's just burned in my brain

670
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 3: forever and that will always be the biggest home run

671
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Speaker 3: for some reason in my head.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if the Astros don't do something here soon,

673
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: we may have to just have a whole podcast debating

674
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Speaker 1: like what who had the biggest who hit the biggest

675
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Speaker 1: home run in franchise history because their.

676
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Speaker 3: Award versus Richard Hidalgo. We can bring all that back.

677
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Speaker 1: Nick Campton probably hit a couple.

678
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Speaker 3: I loved my canton that was my favorite, but I

679
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: mean left handed pitcher could hit. I loved my Canton

680
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Speaker 3: was that was my guy, and Sean Berry was my

681
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: other guy, the utility man. I loved him. I had

682
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Speaker 3: an autograph of his we went to like the Kassimi

683
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 3: you know, spring training when I was a kid, and

684
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: I have like a Disney autograph book. So I have

685
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Speaker 3: like Goofy on one page and then it's like Sean Berry,

686
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: Jeff Bagwell, Mickey Mouse. So it's a collector's item for sure.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the one thing we haven't touched on just in

688
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: anything that we've talked about in the off seasons, the

689
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: Ashers do need a backup catcher. I know that. That's

690
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Speaker 1: why I saved it for thirty three minutes into this,

691
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: because backup catchers can't carry a podcast. They do have

692
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Speaker 1: Sasar Salazar, and from talking to people, it sounds like

693
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Speaker 1: they would be cautiously okay with him being the backup,

694
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Speaker 1: but that is not what they are planning on. Ceysar

695
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: Salazar is beloved in the clubhouse. He's his game planning

696
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: is lauded by a lot of the veteran pitchers. The

697
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Speaker 1: way he runs pregame meetings, his pregame prep like he

698
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Speaker 1: does everything right behind the scenes, like is very convicted

699
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Speaker 1: in what he goes out there and calls, follows game plans,

700
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Speaker 1: constructs game plans very well. I do think there is

701
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Speaker 1: some hesitancy within the organization of maybe over exposing him

702
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Speaker 1: at the big league level, just in terms of maybe

703
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Speaker 1: what he does on the field, and because the Astros,

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Speaker 1: because er Diez is not Yaner Diaz is not like

705
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Speaker 1: cal Raley, and the fact that cal Raley is going

706
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Speaker 1: to catch six days a week like you saw it

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Speaker 1: with Victor Kartini last year, like they would prefer if

708
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: Jiner Diaz caught like four to five times a week

709
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Speaker 1: and they play their backup catcher two to three times

710
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Speaker 1: a week. I think Jiner started one hundred and eleven

711
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: games at catcher last year, which a lot of playing

712
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Speaker 1: time for the backup. And I don't think they're ready

713
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Speaker 1: to commit that large of a role to say Sarsalazar,

714
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Speaker 1: but for the moment he is the backup catcher. I

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Speaker 1: would expect that they will bring in a more experienced

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Speaker 1: guy to back up jainar Diez. As far as Victor

717
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Speaker 1: Carrottini goes, they are interested. They would like to consummate

718
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: a reunion with him. However, Victor Carrottini is going to

719
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Speaker 1: want a multi year deal because he just had two

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Speaker 1: very good seasons in Houston. And I think there are

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Speaker 1: teams with everyday catcher vacancies that have identified Victor Krarrottini

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Speaker 1: as a guy that they would like to have on

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Speaker 1: their team. And I think Victor Carrottini certainly would prefer to.

724
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Speaker 1: And this is nothing against the Astros, nothing against the

725
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: clubhouse here. I think he really liked it here. But

726
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're given the opportunity to play regularly,

727
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Speaker 1: I think you would take that over a backup role.

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Speaker 3: So I mean he would have been a starter on

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Speaker 3: ten or fifteen teams last season, you know, if another

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Speaker 3: team had been able to choose, like he would have

731
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Speaker 3: started on a good number of the teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so, which is what is interesting is that

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Speaker 1: the Rangers had been a team that I had heard

734
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Speaker 1: was had asked around about him. They needed to they

735
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Speaker 1: needed catching. They have Kyle Gashioka, but got rid of

736
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Speaker 1: Jonaheim at the at the tender deadline. They needed a

737
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Speaker 1: they needed kind of an everyday guy. They just signed

738
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Speaker 1: Danny Jansen to a two year I think it was

739
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Speaker 1: seventeen and a half million dollar deal. Victor Krarttini was

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Speaker 1: here on two for twelve, so that's kind of a

741
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Speaker 1: market that's going. So while that eliminated one team that

742
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Speaker 1: needs catching and the Rangers and the Kartini sweepstakes, if

743
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Speaker 1: you can even call them sweepstakes, it also kind of

744
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: showed the market here. And I don't think the Astros

745
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Speaker 1: are about to give Victor Krrottini a two year deal

746
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Speaker 1: for fourteen fifteen million dollars. So I think if Garantini

747
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: does come back to Houston, it would be one of

748
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Speaker 1: those situations where we get to the end of January,

749
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: his market has not materialized the way he wanted, and

750
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Speaker 1: he comes back to the Astros on a deal that

751
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Speaker 1: they're more comfortable giving, maybe more than what he's demanding

752
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: right now. So as far as who's out there, Christian

753
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: Vasquez is a free agent, he's a I think he is.

754
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: There is no reporting in this I have not heard

755
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: it there connected to him at all, but that to me,

756
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Speaker 1: Profiles is like kind of the perfect guy, just an

757
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: older guy that knows the staff here, has been here.

758
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Speaker 1: If you play him twice a week, Look, he did

759
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Speaker 1: not have a good he did not have a good

760
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Speaker 1: run in Minnesota. It did not work well there. But

761
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Speaker 1: he's a guy that again he's they traded for him

762
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Speaker 1: at the deadline a couple of years ago for a reason.

763
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Speaker 1: Like he's very well thought of in game in terms

764
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Speaker 1: of prep, in terms of defense. The offense is obviously

765
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: not going to be what Victor Karattini's was, But I

766
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Speaker 1: don't think you're going to find a backup catcher out

767
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: there that's going to have a one hundred or above

768
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: ops plus and as many ada's as Kartine he had.

769
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Speaker 1: So they could do a lot worse in Christian Vaskians.

770
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: They could do a lot worse in Jonah him. To

771
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: be honest with you, Jonaheim looking for a back, bounce

772
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: back season. If he'd be amenable to coming in and

773
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: being a backup, I think they could do a lot

774
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: worse than that too. So there are options out there,

775
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: But I think that's kind of the thing that they're

776
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: gonna need to that. That's another thing they're gonna need

777
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: to attack. And another thing with Jonaheim, he's a switch hitter.

778
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: They need balance. Victor Kartini was a switch hitter. So

779
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: I think you will see a different backup catcher next

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Speaker 1: year from outside the organization.

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Speaker 3: Did you hear any rumblings or or any talk at

782
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: all of these meetings that you've been to of how

783
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: like catcher evaluations are going to change with the new ABS,

784
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: where framing is no longer you know, going to be

785
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: as important as it as it has been. Like does

786
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 3: that open up the ability to have, you know, a

787
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 3: catcher that just has a rocket arm but doesn't catch

788
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 3: very well, but who cares? You don't need that anymore?

789
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: So did I have those conversations at these meetings?

790
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: Are you hearing these things? What are people talking about?

791
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: Was I wrote about this last year of court? Who does?

792
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: I wrote about this little bit in spring training last

793
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: year when it became pretty clear that ABS was going

794
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 1: to be coming, and I painted it through the lens

795
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: of Jiner Diaz, who has not always been the greatest

796
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 1: framer in the world. But in talking to Michael Collins,

797
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: who is now no longer on the staff, but one

798
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: of the things he said that was interesting and that

799
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: this kind of transcends yin or any catcher for that matters,

800
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: like pitchers still want a good presentation of their pitches.

801
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: Pitchers still want a good target for their pitches. They

802
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: still there's still comfort in that. So maybe we're no

803
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: longer in a place where like you can steal strikes.

804
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: But pitchers care about the presentation of their pitches. They

805
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: care about where a catcher sets up, They care about

806
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: what a catcher has to do to get the ball,

807
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, where they want it thrown. And also, like,

808
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: let's let's be clear here, ABS is not gonna be

809
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: calling every pitch, right, Like, you only get a couple

810
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: of challenges per game. So like if you don't if

811
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: if you don't have your challenge, if your challenges are

812
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: gone by the fourth inning and you stink at framing,

813
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: then like you're gonna stink for like, I mean, the

814
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: last six innings of the game aren't going to go well, right,

815
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: So I think it. I think it's gonna devalue a

816
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: little bit. I think you're gonna stop seeing maybe teams

817
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: or agents or representatives go into a negotiating teams that

818
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: I have the best framing catcher in baseball. He's worth

819
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: three million more dollars a year, and they're like, no,

820
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: ABS is a thing. Now, framing is going to while

821
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: becoming deemphasize a little bit, for all the reasons I

822
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: just said, for pitcher comfort, and for the fact that

823
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: ABS doesn't cover every hitch. You still need to be

824
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Speaker 1: able to frame.

825
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: So there we go on the ground, Thank you, Tyler.

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Speaker 1: Anything else we should discuss, I'm kind of at a loss.

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Speaker 3: We've shown Olivia all three versions of The Grinch those movies.

828
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Speaker 3: She prefers the newest one with the Tyler the Creator song.

829
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Speaker 3: She says that one is the real one. I'm not

830
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Speaker 3: entirely sure what that means, but that's the one that

831
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Speaker 3: she's determined is the real one, So I can update

832
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Speaker 3: you on that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know there were many versions of The Grinch.

834
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Speaker 1: I knew there was one. I knew there was one

835
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Speaker 1: that Jim Carrey did like ten years ago, but I didn't.

836
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Speaker 3: Know it was like twenty years ago. But there's also,

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Speaker 3: you know, the original like animated one that is like

838
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: hand drawn, and then now there's like a computer animated

839
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Speaker 3: one with Benedict Cumberbatch. He's pretty good in it. Keenan

840
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 3: Thompson is in it. But yeah, so we've seen all

841
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 3: of those.

842
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: Those are her.

843
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: Opinions on on on those songs or on those movies.

844
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: She did not like the Jim Carrey one. She thought

845
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: it was scary, which is fair. But yeah, those are

846
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: her rankings thus far.

847
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Speaker 1: Maybe by the next time we record we'll have a

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Speaker 1: Things can change. Christmas is only two weeks away, so

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Speaker 1: if you need anything, Crushity Territory dot crush City Territory

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Speaker 1: Shop dot com slash promo slash Holiday. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: people that have already bought things there, thank you for

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Speaker 1: the people that will buy things there, thank you in advance,

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Speaker 1: and for the people that listen to this. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. As always, you can follow me at on

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Speaker 1: so we can have some things to talk about. But

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Speaker 1: until then, we hope you enjoyed meeting and getting to

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Speaker 1: know Ryan Weiss was a great interview. I appreciate him

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Speaker 1: taking some time. We will be back next week and

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Speaker 1: until then, have a good day. We're going up. Huh.

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Speaker 3: This is a moment. Bye,