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Speaker 3: Mets are Back. The Mets are back, The Mets are back.

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Speaker 3: We're so back. In this episode, I texted James when

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Speaker 3: it was going on. He was like, what time are

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Speaker 3: good thing. We're never like, can't wait to record so

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Speaker 3: excited because good things are happening. It's usually what time

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Speaker 3: will the misery end? And I can get this out

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Speaker 3: of my mind? But they brought us back in jad

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Speaker 3: Martinez walk off home run, the first of his career.

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Speaker 3: Mets take the Nope, let's take the series off of

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Speaker 3: the Miami Marlins, who are just so absolutely terrible. The

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Speaker 3: vibes completely changed, and you know what, I'm gonna embrace

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Speaker 3: the positivity in this episode. I'm gonna I'm gonna be

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Speaker 3: a happy Mets fan for once. Take the series playing

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Speaker 3: How are we feeling?

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Speaker 1: Feeling great?

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Speaker 2: Steamrolling through jet lag right now, pretending it does not exist.

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Speaker 2: Happy we broke my jinks of being in the same

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Speaker 2: country as the Mets because they hit the walk off

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Speaker 2: today and I was home and I watched the whole

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Speaker 2: pretending jet lag doesn't exists. Eleven thirty. Then we're recording this,

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Speaker 2: and they did. But I mean we're being funny, like say,

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Speaker 2: save the season, like save the podcast. But it was

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Speaker 2: at least good that the Mets could win a series

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Speaker 2: against the worst team in the National League. Like that's

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Speaker 2: way the Major League Baseball schedule works, you don't get

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Speaker 3: So this is nice.

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Speaker 2: This is good because big series coming up this weekend

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a walk off home run really changes the vibes

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Speaker 3: that went on in the series, of course, cause okay,

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Speaker 3: back to Earth, we've done the ten minute RNT negative.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, stepping up well, but still just the same bullshit

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Speaker 3: The only guys better Jose Ramirez, Kyle Tucker, Bryce Harper,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so back to the place he always is, which

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Speaker 2: what he is right now. But it seemed like this

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Speaker 2: shame that going to the leadoff spot help Francisco endors

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Speaker 2: don't know whether it is maybe whoever hits third just

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Speaker 2: They can all be god at the same time. Especially

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Speaker 2: as Pete, it just keeps not really being right. And

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Speaker 2: like I was writing all these sad notes as we're

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Speaker 2: getting through his game and rother Mumunio's was just destroying

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Speaker 2: this season the Mets have been no hit through five innings,

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Speaker 2: which is crazy. The startling Marte double played with the

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Speaker 3: But Jaja Martinez saved it.

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Speaker 2: And like we are also overshadowing the fact that Wednesday

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Speaker 2: as much as you can. Marte the big home run,

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Speaker 2: problem that's always been. It comes right back to the offense.

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Speaker 2: For some reason, they just cannot string enough offense together.

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Speaker 2: Is it actually string enough wins together they get back

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Speaker 3: Well, it's very like and this sounds crazy to say,

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Speaker 3: because again Brandonimo was a good player, Pete a. Lonzo

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Speaker 3: of the thing. Weirdly enough, I think the Mets have

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Speaker 3: like the six most runs in the National League, which

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Speaker 3: is like not the worst, but also not the best either,

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Speaker 3: So it's very confusing. Talking about with my dad today

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Speaker 3: When they don't score a lot of runs, they don't

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Speaker 3: score any It's like they can't just score like six

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Speaker 2: I will say though, like just saying they have the

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Speaker 2: ten minutes in might talk about schedule twice.

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Speaker 3: The schedule is very old man, James is back.

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Speaker 2: It's so weird this year where I think teams are

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Speaker 2: just playing not even close to amount of games. It's

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Speaker 2: a very stark thing between I was looking at a

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Speaker 2: tweet from Sests Barbecue the other day between the Padres

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Speaker 2: and the Braids right now, with the Padres have played

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Speaker 2: seven more games than the Landed Braids before the season.

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Speaker 2: The Brads only have two off days in the next

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Speaker 3: I love to hear that.

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Speaker 2: So I remember, we're gonna remember Thomas, Like this should

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Speaker 2: Like, couldn't have gotten worse than that, and let just

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Speaker 3: that just go completely in the tank because this team

433
00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,440
Speaker 3: loves to swing and they have little to no discipline.

434
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's again we don't expect team to have

435
00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,879
Speaker 2: any discipline either, Like this is the worst team in

436
00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:21,560
Speaker 2: the National League.

437
00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,760
Speaker 3: Like this team, they're they're better than the Rockies.

438
00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,119
Speaker 2: I guess to bet in the Rockies. The Rockies did

439
00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,919
Speaker 2: have the one, what seven game winning streak that might

440
00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,440
Speaker 2: give them a better record than the Marlins.

441
00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:31,440
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

442
00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,359
Speaker 2: Those two teams not be seven game series. It'd be

443
00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,119
Speaker 2: close that the World Series.

444
00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:35,399
Speaker 3: I'd like.

445
00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,320
Speaker 2: I'd like to see that seven game series. I'd like

446
00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,480
Speaker 2: it would be such a weird difference of park factors too,

447
00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,120
Speaker 2: Like going from Colorado to Miami, back and forth. Every

448
00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,560
Speaker 2: single one of those games we played so differently. Oh,

449
00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,639
Speaker 2: that'd be funny as hell. No kind of want that

450
00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,280
Speaker 2: to happen. They should be, like they should be the best.

451
00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,119
Speaker 3: Should we go to Miami for the series. When the

452
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,200
Speaker 3: Rockies go and go into Miami, we.

453
00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,199
Speaker 2: Should also go to Colorado. It's probably happened, Alrighty, If

454
00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, I think I actually do remember

455
00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,359
Speaker 2: the Rockies already playing the Marlins in coloradough. But but

456
00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,080
Speaker 2: I don't care about arguing with the word seem nationale

457
00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,639
Speaker 2: else fucking suck and it would have been miserable to

458
00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,680
Speaker 2: have lost serious to them. But Tyler McGill, I didn't

459
00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,200
Speaker 2: like a narrative that I was seeing online and by

460
00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,840
Speaker 2: people that Tyler mckill like collapsed like unraveled again, because

461
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't think that was a fair estimation of what

462
00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,680
Speaker 2: happened in this game. Because I think that like from

463
00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,080
Speaker 2: watching it and just like kind of taking in Tyler

464
00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,040
Speaker 2: and McGill for who he is right now, it feels

465
00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,160
Speaker 2: like he's very much become a different picture. And it's

466
00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,800
Speaker 2: not just the fact that he throws like these four

467
00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,720
Speaker 2: s players a game that very hard problem because they're fun.

468
00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,960
Speaker 2: But it's like it's not just that, like he did

469
00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,639
Speaker 2: so many little things in this start. He's done these

470
00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,320
Speaker 2: last couple of starts where he's not mixing six different pictues,

471
00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,880
Speaker 2: he's throwing at least five different pitches for his guys

472
00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,800
Speaker 2: in each side of the plate. The colors was really good,

473
00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,639
Speaker 2: It doesn't it moves in a weird way, like it

474
00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,480
Speaker 2: doesn't look good, it's not esthetically pleasing pitch, but I

475
00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,520
Speaker 2: think it's like a little surprising, so people wind up

476
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,600
Speaker 2: missing it because it's like it's in between the fastball

477
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,000
Speaker 2: and the slyder velocity movement everything. But something else I

478
00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,000
Speaker 2: love for McGill. That was something that we always wanted

479
00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,480
Speaker 2: him to do more when he came up, which is

480
00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,679
Speaker 2: something that we hear veteran pitchers talk about a lot,

481
00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 2: is like the thing that kind of makes you a

482
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,199
Speaker 2: real starting pitcher versus the thing that makes you u

483
00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,200
Speaker 2: a guy that pitches beginning of games is he seemed

484
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 2: to have a control over his velocity, and he did

485
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,960
Speaker 2: not have his first couple of years the major leagues

486
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,840
Speaker 2: where he was oscillating between his goal like ninety seven

487
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,720
Speaker 2: ninety five, ninety seven ninety five, and even that fifth

488
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 2: inning when he was struggling in the bad against shake

489
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,959
Speaker 2: Berger threw his hardest pitch of the game ninety eight

490
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,760
Speaker 2: miles an hour. So the fact that he was really

491
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,119
Speaker 2: missing bats left and right, he was mixing all his

492
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,919
Speaker 2: pitches all around the zone. The command wasn't really there,

493
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 2: but the stuff was good enough. That and the mounds

494
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 2: are not good, so it all kept working. But the

495
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 2: fact he was able to maintain whether he had to

496
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,199
Speaker 2: maintain in the tank and throw his hardest pitch when

497
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,639
Speaker 2: the game was at its most critical juncture was a

498
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,119
Speaker 2: cool thing for me to see with Tyler McGill in's

499
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 2: terms of maturity and development that we hadn't seen yet

500
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,800
Speaker 2: so far from him.

501
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Speaker 3: Did the fastball have any extra jump? It looked like

502
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 3: it was. It was zipping in there in this game.

503
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,160
Speaker 3: So I don't know if you looked at those numbers necessarily,

504
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,440
Speaker 3: but it looked at least he's visually better they have.

505
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 2: They've been jumping every single start for him. He hasn't

506
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,400
Speaker 2: had any starts to the fastballs really waivered like he's

507
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,679
Speaker 2: getting the best, the best extension he's ever got his

508
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 2: career on at this start. Specifically, again, he was sitting

509
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 2: ninety six firmly the whole time, like everything was between

510
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 2: ninety five and ninety seven. So its all look good

511
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,400
Speaker 2: and he was just kept filling up his own fastball.

512
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 2: But I think what we might be seeing and experiencing

513
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,679
Speaker 2: with opposing hitters might be experiencing too, is that the

514
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 2: jumping of the fastballs, because there's so many other things

515
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 2: happening now, Whereas I think that the Tyler McGill, when

516
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 2: you used to just be fastball slide, their fastball slide,

517
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 2: their fastball slide, the fastball slide against the little repetit

518
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 2: them and he's he can't fastball slider because they're both good,

519
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 2: but they're not that good. So the fact that you're

520
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 2: going to see a random splither and you're going to

521
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 2: see more of those cuddos and like, that's pretty cool.

522
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 3: I just had a brain blast. I don't know if

523
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 3: you watched the Lance Brasdowski video about Paul Skins for

524
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 3: Sho Heyo Tani. It's all going to come back together,

525
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 3: don't worry, Okay, but you talked about this new theory

526
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 3: called pitch DK or pitch decay, and basically how Paul

527
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 3: Skins when he gave up that home run to Otani

528
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 3: was kind of inevitable because that was a seventh fastball

529
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 3: he'd thrown him in like ten pitches, and there's an

530
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 3: idea that like after a certain amount of pitches, the

531
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 3: batter gets a massive advantage. But then that's as much

532
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 3: of an advantage as he can physically get because he's

533
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 3: seen it so many times nothing's really gonna change. And

534
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 3: with Tyler and McGill now having those six pitches, it

535
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 3: almost limits that decay because he has those other options.

536
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 3: He can go to other things because he's not throwing

537
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 3: his fastball insider ninety five percent of the time.

538
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it's a great point. I love Lance.

539
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 2: Lance does amazing content. We're gonna have Lance on next Cup.

540
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 2: We have to actually text them. We have to remember

541
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: that well then game this weekend because next weekend they're

542
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 2: going to the Cup, So we'll try to get him

543
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 2: off for ten minutes to a cup for you next week.

544
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 2: Both good friends.

545
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 3: Lance.

546
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: Lance is the man, but also probably is a mental

547
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 2: game of it too, because if you can just kind

548
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: of triangulate where you got, where you're being pitched, and

549
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: what's gonna throw, then you can start to guess and

550
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: you can get within fifty percent. If you get within

551
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: fifty percent, you basically know what's gonna come next as

552
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 2: a hitter. But again, the fact that Tyler McGill in

553
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 2: this game and these all these last couple of starts

554
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 2: he's had, he's throwing four or five different pitches against

555
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 2: hit from each side of the plate, like that's a

556
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: massive thing. And even just to talk about like the

557
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 2: unraveling that happened him in that fifth inning, Yeah, like

558
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 2: it was a It was a nice single by Tim Anderson,

559
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 2: who reinvigorated his career this weekend'st the Mets. And then

560
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 2: Nick Fortes has hit the ground ball to Vieno, so

561
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 2: he has to mad a nice pick and then throw

562
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 2: across body to p the first base. Tim Anderson for

563
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: some reason, now he's he's showing effort. He made a

564
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: great heads up play from first base getting to third

565
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 2: and a ground ball third, he's head first slide to

566
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: beat the throw by a little bit.

567
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 3: And then he had a.

568
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 2: Really tough walk against jass Chisolm McGill, whereas had four

569
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 2: foul balls on some tough pitches and then drawn the

570
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: walk as McGill starts to lose his own and then

571
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,959
Speaker 2: Brian Dane lack cruise the double in the gap that

572
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 2: Harrison Mader almost made a great play on it, and

573
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Speaker 2: it kind of made me think a little bit like

574
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: glimmer back to what Starling Marte said to blaming the

575
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: Mets for the drop ball in London series, because beta

576
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 2: beginning of that play on the right of the Brian

577
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 2: de la Cruz, who I don't I don't know, I

578
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: don't have any days in front of me, but he

579
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: just to me, he feels like someone's often been a

580
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: pull hither.

581
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: He was in the right center field gap.

582
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 2: And then yeah, he runs all the way across, he

583
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 2: gets he gets to the ball, we just can't make

584
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 2: a spectacle catch a run scores on that. And then

585
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: Biento's almost makes a great play on Jake Burger ground ball.

586
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: But I just don't think he had the awareness to

587
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 2: know how slow Jake Berger was and he made an

588
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 2: err and throw when he could have avoided the extra beat.

589
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: It wasn't called an error in the box score because

590
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 2: gain Burger was close on it anyway, but I think

591
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: Biantro's could have taken a beat.

592
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 3: And that was just that was kind of the end

593
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 3: of it.

594
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: Now all suddenly three runs are in and then you

595
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: give another run late, and that's how you lose a

596
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 2: game when you only score two runs and you only

597
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: get one run scoring hit. But everything else that mcguil

598
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: did was really good. And also just another quick mention

599
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: about this splitded that he's been thrown. He's not throwing

600
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: a lot of them. So it's hard to really say

601
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: this is the thing that's changing him so far, but

602
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 2: it just so feels that this is a pitch that

603
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 2: can transform him into like being this guy who's still

604
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: stuck in the middle, still trying to tread waller, to

605
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: become a starter, to get to the next level and

606
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 2: be a guy who could just bank on his rotation

607
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: for years to come. He threw splittinges geame three and

608
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: seventy nine RPMs. That is that's one of the slowest.

609
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: That's one of the least spinning splitthers in baseball this season.

610
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 2: And that one they threw Nick Lore an O two pitch,

611
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 2: It literally floated like a knuckleball. It was the bull

612
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: he's able to do. It's such a unique pitch. There's

613
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: so much potential on that pitch. I really want to

614
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: see that happen. Just he missed tons of bats. He

615
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: had the seven strikeouts in the first four innings. I

616
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: think to Marmin's only three or four hard hit balls.

617
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 3: Like he was. He was really good, and I'm I'm.

618
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 2: More confident in McGill than I ever have been watching

619
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: almost every single story he's ever has a major leaguer

620
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: so he.

621
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Speaker 3: Loves sending that text what are you doing? You're around

622
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 3: and talk? Can you talk? But what's going on? And

623
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: I bite every single time. I like even watching him,

624
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 3: like damn it, I'm back again. I'm so back.

625
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: It is why But again it's like why not be back?

626
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 2: It's again like he has showed material changes, Like we're

627
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: not just saying this to have fun. We're saying it

628
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: because there's something new here. There was nothing new, we

629
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't say it. And that brings it to the next guy,

630
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: David Peterson, there's nothing new, which yeah, I uh.

631
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 3: The text came in and I said, nah, dude, I

632
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: felt for this before. I'm not doing it again. You won't.

633
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: He won't get me this time, David Peterson, because again

634
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: it's just like it's crazy to think about how like

635
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: because I see the stat two whips on forty seven swings,

636
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: You're right, that is legit insane. You couldn't have said

637
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: it better in the notes because what was it two

638
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: years ago that slider was one of the best sliders

639
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 3: in Major League Baseball and all of a sudden it's

640
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 3: just dead, Like what happened?

641
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: He had a two month stretch in twenty twenty two

642
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 2: where he was top fifteen in the whole league and

643
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 2: strike up my squall crad and that was the reason

644
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: we were like similar to McGill right now, where it's

645
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 2: like if you're doing something that's really good, we'll give

646
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 2: you the credit and say you're doing it really good.

647
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 2: But it's not happening right now for Peterson, and it's

648
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: back to sinker sliders and they're both fine pitches, and

649
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 2: I watch him pitch him like these are good. But

650
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: I still just think at this point David Peters where

651
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 2: we still just can't really command him, He can't really

652
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: command his own body. But I want to go back

653
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: to the two whiffs on forty seven swings because, like

654
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: I wrote the notes, like you just said, that's legit insane,

655
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's so insane. I really want

656
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: to look at how insane this is. So this year

657
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball, there have been two thousand, ninety

658
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: eight appearances by pitchers who threw at least fifty pitches

659
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: in an outing. This is only the thirty eighth time

660
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: this season that one of those pitchers only had two

661
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 2: or fewer whiffs. And if you bump that number down

662
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 2: to guys who through at least eighty pitches in their outing.

663
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 3: This is only the eighth.

664
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: Time that happened. Two or fewer, with two thousand, ninety

665
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 2: eight appearances by guys who throw at least fifty pitches

666
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: at thirty the eighth time this happened. It's crazy. It's

667
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: unbelievable that he's able to miss that few bass. But again,

668
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: like that'st night the Mets offense breaks out night. That's

669
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: not that you you murder Braxton Garretts. So it's like,

670
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: it's fine, I guess baseball, Susan, and you can win

671
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: a game. And it's just I get I get a

672
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: little frustrated with how cutthroat something the Mets front office

673
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: and the Mets like the Mets organization has been this

674
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: year with letting Allman Devias go, dumping Joey Wendel, both

675
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: those guys with guarantee contracts.

676
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 3: Good, it's good.

677
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 2: But then for some reason, we have David Peterson in

678
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: this role and even Jose Katana because he seems like

679
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: maybe the next guy who my fall victims to this

680
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: where it's just like, you, guys, these guys are not

681
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: better than Christian Scott, Jose bu they're just not like,

682
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: don't give you as good a chance to win. I

683
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: understand it in terms of like asset management, Like you

684
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: can cut a hither it doesn't matter that much, but

685
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: you don't want to cut a picture because you don't

686
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: want to just let innings go for free. And I'm

687
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: sure every day they have a certain stay Like maybe

688
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: could trade Hose Katana. I could probably trade hose Katana.

689
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: It's just one year control. I'll eat half the money,

690
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: I'll get one. Angels want back, I'll get an I'll

691
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: get anything for Rose Katana. But it's just like the

692
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: it's it's it's a weird thing that baseball for and

693
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: officers have to do it. We have to balance asset

694
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: management versus giving my team the best chance to win

695
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: every single day. And it's a shitty spot the Mets

696
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: are in right now because you want to win every

697
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: game you can, because you're trying to scratch a claw

698
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: back into a race. Maybe we as fans care much

699
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: more about this race than the people in the building. Yeah,

700
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: which was like for shatting the other stuff we're gonna

701
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: talk about, But that's just the reality of it. Like

702
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: David Peterson right now is probably the eighth best starting

703
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: pitcher in the Mets organization, and Jose Katana is probably

704
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: the ninth. But they they're gonna pitch every five days

705
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: because that's just how it works.

706
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've uh, I've given up. I shouldn't say given up.

707
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 3: Given up's not the right word. No, it's exactly what

708
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: he is. I was just about to say, David Peterson,

709
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 3: what I see is what I get. I'm never expecting more,

710
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: and I'll expect a little bit less at times, but

711
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I've I've given up on the hope

712
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 3: of David Peterson pop off. That's where I'll go. He

713
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 3: is just he is this picture, and until he proves

714
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: otherwise for a sustained period of time, I will not

715
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: believe it.

716
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: I've read the cool article by Robert Lawren Baseball Perspective.

717
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 2: I think it was Baseball Perspectives last week about pictures

718
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: having multiple different fastballs and how valuable that is because

719
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 2: we learn more about the way Hithers swing with all

720
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: those new swing data from Baseball Savan. I feel like

721
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 2: more people are now opening up so like journalists, reporters

722
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: and everything about this stuff, and you can just kind

723
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: of feel that when these pictures have these other tools,

724
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: especially the guys that don't throw ninety seven miles an hour,

725
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: like take those guys out. And I love thinking about

726
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: someone like Justin Steel or like Javier A. Sade, and

727
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: I think about this where it's like orin peutersm with

728
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: that as best and you throwing sinkers and fastballs together.

729
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: You just want to be able to have both of

730
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: those weapons because you don't want to throw your singers

731
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: against guys on both sides both handed in this and

732
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: usually pictures don't really like working inside against both sides

733
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: of the place. So you want to be able to

734
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: have different pictures to move a little bit differently, so

735
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: you get guys differently. And we talked a lot about

736
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: this show about how it's rare to find a hither

737
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: that has a positive run value against both fastballs and sinkers.

738
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: It's a weird thing because those are different kinds of

739
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 2: swings will get different results against that those kind of pitches,

740
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: Like if you do a fastball swing already know Sarah says,

741
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: some rays and barrows fastball swing and a second is good,

742
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: they could say with the other way around. And Peterston

743
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: just he can't really ever seem to get those two

744
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: things working at the same time, and the rest of

745
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: the repertoire is not really just good enough on its

746
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: own to make it happen. It's just I don't know,

747
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: it's just still stuck in that same spot. It just

748
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 2: can't get out of it.

749
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: All right, James go off about your king dead Neil? Noon, Yes,

750
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: did you did you see some of the stats that

751
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: have been coming out about this guy?

752
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: Incredible? You got you gotta talk a little bit. I'm

753
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: just talking about pitching now for the last ten minutes.

754
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: You gotta say some stuff.

755
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: But that.

756
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: Fully saved the game on Wednesday because he he came

757
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: in the game, David Peterson have like five tough innings

758
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: and that's we're only winning five to four, And it

759
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: felt like anything could happen at that point, Like you

760
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: asked this iteration of the Mets bullpen to get twelve outs,

761
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: like I don't know what's gonna happen. But Ded Neil

762
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: came in two in the third, five strikeouts. It's just

763
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: he It's just fastballs and sliders and you cannot touch

764
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: the guy.

765
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: There are three leaf pitchers in Major League Baseball history.

766
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: Shouting Michael Meyer for this one with the following in

767
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: their first ten career relief appearances more than twenty four

768
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: strikeouts less than are equal to three walks, zero hit

769
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: by pitch. Jim Merritt, don't know who that is. Brandon

770
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: Woodruff dead Neil Nuniez. He's great, he's he's doing things

771
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: we've almost never seen before.

772
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look up Jim Merritt's Baseball reference page. See

773
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: if we got anything here but a lefty from the seventies.

774
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 3: I like that.

775
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: A lot still live, still puzzling around out there in California,

776
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: eighty years old. He debuted the nineteen sixty five August second,

777
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five. That's crazy. He debuted before my mother

778
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: was born. But yeah, DC decent little career out there.

779
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: Three three, three, seventy ira though in the sixties and seventies.

780
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: Isn't that great for a career, But that's fine. Another

781
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: good say about d Neil Nuniez if you take them

782
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: every pitch in the league and make the minimum ount

783
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: of innings pitch fifteen, because he has fifteen and thirds

784
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: innings pitch this year. He has the second highest track

785
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: on mys walk great in all of baseball, well only

786
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: behind Mason Miller, who about forty percent. He's just he's

787
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: just real life good. He's just actually good reliever. We

788
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: did it again, David turns.

789
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: We did it again. We did class. Yeah.

790
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: But the other problem about this is that the other

791
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: stuff we were alluding to because don't talk about Edwin

792
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: DEAs briefly too. But when Edwin was activated on Wednesday Thursday,

793
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: we sent down Andy Young, who Danny Danny keeps saying

794
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: Andy Danny, Andy Young.

795
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 3: Was the guy that was traded for Paul Goldschmidt.

796
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's also Andy Green Met's player development a director.

797
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: But Danny Young was awesome.

798
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: He's ripping off sweepers. I think Perspective shouted him out.

799
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: Is like one of the highest raiders on their their

800
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: stuff plus model, and like he he looks great, Like

801
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: he had a feet through a frisbee against Brice Harper

802
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: in London, Like he had awesome stuff. And this is

803
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: again goes to be like you can be cutthroat with

804
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 2: your hithers and let guys go, but with pitching, he

805
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: just has an option and out of the mount of

806
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: Vino doesn't even though Adam Mono looks like he might

807
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: be half cooked. He just this guy has to lose

808
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: his spot, and like Gary and Keith are talking about

809
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: tonight that like it feels like he's gonna come back,

810
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: but he's just not here right now. We have to

811
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: give him, we're giving him his credit and he's not

812
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: even on the team right now.

813
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Adam Outovino is, he's in dangerous territory. He's medium

814
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: rare chicken. And you're like, I'm not gonna eat this,

815
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: but am I still gonna keep im? I could put

816
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: this back on the grill. See if it warms up,

817
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: see if it gets to the temperature I need, because

818
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: he does. He does look toast right now, and it

819
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: does suck that guy like Danny Young does get option

820
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 3: doing nothing wrong whatsoever, and that is everything right almost, yeah, almost,

821
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: except having an option that was his fault. You should

822
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: have signed a guaranteed contract, should have been better earlier.

823
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: He's just good. He's legitimately a good relief pitcher. He's

824
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: probably like the fourth most trust early reliever in the

825
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: whole ballpen. He's in the minor leagues right now, but

826
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: came back for Edwin.

827
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: It was really nice.

828
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: See Edmund pitch on Thursday night, a really crispy one

829
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 2: two three inning. He almost actually got to one hundred

830
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: miles an hour. I thought he got two hundred miles

831
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: an hour. Everyone said it was one hundred miles an hour.

832
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: So I went full steam ahead and I wrote the tweet,

833
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: and I did a tweet myself. I got all these

834
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: fun stats about the last time themester a pitch one

835
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: hundred miles an hour over six hundred days ago. It's

836
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: the second longest active streak in the Major League. So

837
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: now it's a battle between get us the Red Sox.

838
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: Oh nice, by like two extra weeks. The Rocky's got

839
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: one this year. We were the only three teams last year.

840
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: Not they're a patch undred miles hour. So tweets back

841
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: in the drafts. Ready to go whenever it happens. I'm

842
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: ready for it. But just really nice. The Edwin also

843
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: feel comfortable. Also very nice because what we talked about

844
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: last time with Edwin, for the Mets to be upfront

845
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: about his role, to be honest about it, to show

846
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,239
Speaker 2: confidence in him and say he is the closer. He's

847
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: coming back as a closer. And the game where they

848
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: were trailing by one the ninth inning at home put

849
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,479
Speaker 2: the closer in the game. Yes, perfect, that's what you do.

850
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: And you know what, you got them a win. I'm

851
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: sure wins are fucking stupid. I don't care about wins.

852
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody does anymore. But for Edwin's just

853
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 2: have the W in his name and the box square

854
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: aft this one probably a nice feeling.

855
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: Ed Win ds ed Win that's his name, saying it's

856
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: literally in his name, and that's it. One a series

857
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: against the Marlins, thank god, thank god. We do have

858
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: a little bit of a what's the word when you're amendment? Amendment?

859
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know. We we misspoke in the last episode,

860
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: but we also got bad info. Shout out Clay, shout

861
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: out my dad, both of them. Buster Rolney said the

862
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: Edwin d As thing, it was actually everybody's favorite. Tim

863
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: Kirkshon loved him. He's the only Edwin d As ever. Like,

864
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: I mean, that makes sense, but it hurts me that

865
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: Tim Kirkshon said that. I would never say a bad

866
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 3: thing about that guy. I just have blind hate for Busterolne.

867
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: It just tells me that Tim is hanging out Buster

868
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: too much. Like that's the problem.

869
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: Right there. ESPN's that's all seeing the ESPN and the

870
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 2: just some other housekeeping thing. Keith. Keith was in such

871
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: rare form doing the game out there is that he

872
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: was insane. He called Rodenery Munio is the Marlin sawing picture,

873
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: A chunk, A chunk, he's a look at the legs

874
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: on this guy. He's a he's a real chunk. And

875
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 2: then he he just went into a diatribe because Luise

876
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 2: we gonna made a really nice play in the mound.

877
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: He feels the position very well. Luci really good athlete,

878
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: and I know he keeps not striking people out but

879
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: keeps not giving up runs. I just I don't know,

880
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 2: I should know, I shouldn't, but I really like Luis

881
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 2: Ebrie and everything he does.

882
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: But the position really well.

883
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: He had a player where he like basically batted down

884
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: like a like a medium line drive right back out

885
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 2: and he went behind the mound and made like a

886
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: sharp throw the first Then he had another one a

887
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 2: couple of innings later where a bunt was popped up

888
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: with two men on so you couldn't call him, and

889
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: field fly where he caught the ball that was like

890
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: shoulder height and turned around spun the second base. He

891
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 2: missed a double play by like half a foot, but

892
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 2: it got Keith like on a sad memory trip where

893
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: he was talking about that exact same play, misplaying it

894
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: in game seven and nineteen eighty. I'm sure my dad's

895
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: gonna TXT me about this in the morning. And he says,

896
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: after that, the flood gets open for the Dodgers, and

897
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: Key says he still blames himself for that play and

898
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: it was the single worst and most regrettable play of

899
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 2: his entire major league career.

900
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 3: I mean, that's like crazy stuff. I love. He also

901
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 3: was complaining about and he was like a self aware

902
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 3: he was old man yelling at the clouds. I think

903
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 3: there was a hit through the hole with runners in

904
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 3: scoring position, like two outs or something. I think McNeil

905
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 3: was shifted over at one point. Key's like, I know

906
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: the numbers in the analytics say that that's the right play.

907
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: He's like, but you know, the player in me just says,

908
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: you know, there's there's ducks on the pond, guys to

909
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 3: be put in. I'm gonna find that hole. You just

910
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: can't give it to me, Like that's too easy. And

911
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: Gary kind of like laughed about it like, oh you

912
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: hear Keith goes again and he just like went on

913
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: for like a couple of minutes. He's like, all right, right,

914
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: my bad, back back to the game, like I've been

915
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: doing my old band thing again.

916
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: I also think that Keith Hernandez called Tim Anderson a

917
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: former batting champion twenty five times a.

918
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: Series he was, he was a former batting champion.

919
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: I think the series was a good I don't know,

920
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: a good symbol for how much the batting championship means

921
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: in modern baseball, where you see Jeff McNeil and Tam

922
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: Mangerson playing and statistically they're two of the worst hitters

923
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball this year, and I got a

924
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: batting champion. Maybe it's not always the most important thing.

925
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe batting average is not linear in terms of

926
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: how good you'll be the next season. That was the one.

927
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: That was the one.

928
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: Batting average doesn't matter mentioned this podcast once a show, and.

929
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: That was it. That was it.

930
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: Last thing we're gonna talk about here before we get

931
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: to the weekly prospect of port, because we actually have

932
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 2: a real prospering port for the first time in a while.

933
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: Because I'm not in the UK anymore.

934
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: I'm not.

935
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm actually just home and stable probably for a little

936
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 2: a little while. We're gonna start doing some trade deadline

937
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: stuff soon, and I think the one thing I want

938
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: to talk about is start to tease some trade deadline content.

939
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 2: Is a super interesting comment that Steve Cohen made, I

940
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: don't know if it was after the London series in

941
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: the Day Off somewhat he does impress availability and he

942
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 2: said that he doesn't think the Mets approach the trade

943
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: deadline will be black and white. And I think that's

944
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: like exactly not what most Mets fans want to hear,

945
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 2: because I think as fans were like buyers are sellers,

946
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: and I think I saw our boy Mike Marino have

947
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: a have a tweet tonight. We're put on a pole.

948
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: We'll have Mike god rather trade deadline for sure, Pebraham

949
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: and Power Gaza, maybe Will Salmon where he said mess

950
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: can be buyers ourselves the trade deadline, and I think

951
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: the reality is, especially if you look back at a

952
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: lot of the trade deadlines that David Stearns oversaw with

953
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: the Brewers, it's probably gonna be some horrible combination of

954
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: something in between, and it's gonna be so not satisfying

955
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 2: for us.

956
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Brewers were a playoff team and trade the

957
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 3: best closer in baseball, Josh Hater. At one point they

958
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: were like, oh, h don't need you. We're we're we

959
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 3: gotta get rid of you. Your value is at the

960
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 3: highest it's ever gonna be. We have the opportunity to

961
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: get a lot back. Smell you Lator, Welcome, Welcome the

962
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: San Diego I think that's where they traded him.

963
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it got Robert Javis Gosser, who actually came

964
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: up was a really good pitcher this year, but now

965
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: he's about the time of John Sturge. It would have

966
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: been so funny that he would actually fuel the playoff

967
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: run for them years after this happened.

968
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we will talk about it a lot more

969
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: because there is a lot to be talked about. There's

970
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: a lot to be said, especially on the Pee Alonzo front.

971
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: That seems to be the one that everyone's talking about.

972
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: But the Mets are in a really interesting spot where

973
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 3: there's a lot of players that I think will be

974
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 3: moved and can be moved, along with guys that they

975
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 3: could bring in that maybe you're not necessarily thinking of.

976
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 3: They're not gonna get any of the big sexy names.

977
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: I don't think by any means, but there are guys

978
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: that can help this team for the future. Like you said,

979
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: we've seen David Certainty with the Brewers in the past.

980
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: So we're finally back. We're all ready to get back

981
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: on the content grind, get ready a little more organized.

982
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: Expect that in the next coming episodes. Now out to

983
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 3: the prospect report, James, who are re starting it off with?

984
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 3: Is it your boy Christian Scott?

985
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess like he's once again now the best,

986
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: Like that's the that's the Mets best prospect playing in

987
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: the minor leagues are Now we're gain Drew Gilbert back soon.

988
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: Jet Williams had resurgery, so he's probably gonna be out

989
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: for another basically two months. It could be like a

990
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: last season for Jet Williams, which sucks, but also last

991
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: season was so good he like basically was a full season,

992
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: had a schedule. So even next year is a twenty

993
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: one year old playing double a baseball still very has schedule.

994
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: Goo.

995
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's weirder back here talking about Christian Scott

996
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: these in these prospect reports, because again I think of

997
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: all the Mets healthy starting pitchers right now. He might

998
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 2: be the best one, but he is pitching in Syracuse

999
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: for whatever reason. And it seems like I will give

1000
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: them Mets credit for sticking to a plan with Christian Scott.

1001
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: They said they sent him down to control his innings

1002
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: and his workload, and also because he had these extra

1003
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 2: off days and don't need the six men rotation right now,

1004
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: which changes next week. So I'm thinking his next start,

1005
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: which is going to be scheduled for I believe next

1006
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: Tuesday in Texas against the Rangers. That feels like it's

1007
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: going to be when Christian Scott returns. But something that

1008
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: we've seen a lot of teams do recently for all

1009
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 2: over baseball, we can hear about all the time inning

1010
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: innings limit, innings limit. I think it's really kind of

1011
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: a stupid idea. You should have a pitch limit. Of course,

1012
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 2: it's stupid. Yeah, And Christian Scott, both of these starts

1013
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 2: he's had in Sarah accuse, fifty nine pitches sixty pitches bang.

1014
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: It seems like the very hard line of pitches. And

1015
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: one of them was five innings and one of them

1016
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: was three and two thirds innings. But sixty pitches you

1017
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: get it out of sixty pitches. I think that's cool

1018
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: that the Mets seem to be modernizing their approach to

1019
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: pitcher workload. His last start Syracuse was good again, only

1020
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 2: three and two thirds innings. He had six strikeouts. Of course,

1021
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 2: he gave up a solo home run. Gosh, just what's

1022
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: gonna happen? But I think I'm hoping next Tuesday, we

1023
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: see Christians got next Tuesday and Wednesday in Texas.

1024
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: It'd be nice. It would be good to see him

1025
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: back on the mound because he is very good and he's,

1026
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: like you said, one of the better pitchers in this

1027
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 3: entire organization. Number one right now not on the roster,

1028
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: so that's crazy. Also colde I saga update through a

1029
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: bullpen good great, And again we've seen that update what

1030
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: like six times in the last nine weeks.

1031
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: So but he was smiling this time in the video,

1032
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: so that's good. And him to tell him rally cappened

1033
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: the yes last night for the rally and tell him

1034
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: was dancing afterwards. So seemp vibes are better. But another

1035
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: update again, I can't believe her here. Almost makes me

1036
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: a little bit sad. Brett baby, you guys, guy wouldn't

1037
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: believe he's crushing tuble A. Oh my god, he's.

1038
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: Too good for the level. Who saw that coming. It's

1039
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 3: so annoying.

1040
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: I wish there was another level that minor leagues was

1041
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 2: actually real, because Brett Baty is over here just mauling

1042
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: ninety two miles in hour fastballs and looping curve balls

1043
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: and learning nothing.

1044
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: But there is a real development playing a little second base,

1045
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 3: playing a little second base. Will Samon put out that report,

1046
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: we saw some clips. He is playing second base is

1047
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 3: a sentence. That is the thing that has been said.

1048
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: That's the thing we've seen.

1049
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: It's it's fine. However, he's gonna play second base. Its

1050
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 2: gonna play second base. I saw a lot of people

1051
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: running with a video about Brett Batty turning a double play,

1052
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: like s n Y tweeted, Syracuse mess tweeted it, like

1053
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 2: all the classic mess influences tweeted it. But it's also

1054
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: just like, I don't know if he was actually watching

1055
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: turn that double play, because from when he got the

1056
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 2: ball second I'd also like, I don't even fall Brett

1057
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: Baty for it either, because it's just awkward. Yeah, it's weird.

1058
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: He's never done this before. Like that's hard, Like there's

1059
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 2: a misment. At least two mississippi, three missippi. Catch the ball,

1060
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: step on the base, twist your body, make it throw

1061
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: the first It's hard. But seeing him do it, I

1062
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: was like, that's nice.

1063
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 3: He did it.

1064
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: But like everyone's like, wow, Brett Baty double play him,

1065
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: Like that was like a four Mississippi count to get

1066
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: that ball out of his glove. But still good he did.

1067
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: It's still good that he's in a game playing second base.

1068
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: It didn't fuck with his head enough. He still had

1069
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: three hits in the game. He's he's so much, he's over.

1070
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: He's like one hundred and forty percent Bettan lea gaverage

1071
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 2: at triple A. Right now, It's like whatever, but interesting

1072
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: that there something's actually gonna happen, because there's a good

1073
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: chance this Mets team gets weird after the trade deadline.

1074
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 3: I'll be down to Bret Bay second base.

1075
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: I think, fuck it, right, why not?

1076
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: I mean, probably not gonna hit any worse than Jeff

1077
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 3: McNeil right now, so I don't think there's anything to lose.

1078
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: I like, again, Mets being a little creative. I'm cool

1079
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: with it. The usual thing that the Mets do in

1080
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: the past was you can't play your position? How about

1081
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: left field, buddy? And they did try that last year.

1082
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: This year they're trying second base. So I'm down for it,

1083
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 3: and I'm sure Brett's down for it too. Whatever gets

1084
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: them back to the Major league's quickest, I'm sure he's

1085
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 3: gonna be willing to do that. Speaking of someone who's

1086
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 3: trying to get to the MLB quick Luisan Helocunya. What

1087
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: we're gonna tell you, guys is don't believe Twitter, because

1088
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 3: if you type of Luis on Helicunya on Twitter, you

1089
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 3: would think that this guy is just gonna come up

1090
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: and be his brother. And We've told you many many times.

1091
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: And I love James' comp to wit Mayfield. I think

1092
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: that's a really good one. Superduced wit Maryfield, wit Mayfield

1093
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 3: with testosterone, with a lil machismo, mikeel Garcia, mikel Garcia.

1094
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: And while he has had a good month, he's still

1095
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: really not hitting for any power whatsoever. It is high average.

1096
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: He's getting on base three fifty on base is pretty solid,

1097
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: Like that's a good thing over the last month, but

1098
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: he's still just about league average. And again he's an

1099
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: easy player. To tweet out he's an easy PA player

1100
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: for engagement, easy player for likes. That's why we do

1101
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 3: this prospect report because we want to tell you about

1102
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: all the other guys that are doing good stuff. And

1103
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 3: we have some more names after this, have a couple

1104
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 3: of sleepers that nobody's really speaking of that are doing

1105
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 3: really well. He's still got a long way to go.

1106
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: It feels less and less likely with the current build

1107
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 3: of this Mets team that will see him at the

1108
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: Ajor League level this year unless there is some drastic change.

1109
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just through this point in the season. Again,

1110
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 2: like a lot of things that you see on Twitter,

1111
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: it makes it seem nice. And we talked about our

1112
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: top ten Mets prospects a couple of weeks ago now

1113
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 2: on YouTube. If you guys haven't seen that, check that

1114
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: on YouTube channel.

1115
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 3: But I talked about that.

1116
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: There are a lot of things that he is doing

1117
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: quite well, and he does get to He hits the

1118
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: ball hard more often than most players hit the ball hard,

1119
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: and that's a really relevant thing. That's something it's a

1120
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: hard thing to teach. It's a hard thing to really

1121
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: get better at being able to swing hard, make contact hard,

1122
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: hit the ball hard and do that, but there's stills

1123
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: a lot of things he just doesn't He just isn't

1124
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: able to do right now, he's not really able to

1125
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: work account Like the thing about Louis on Helicoon is

1126
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: that he's a very aggressive hitter. He doesn't like let

1127
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: a lot of counts develop. He's only walking six percent

1128
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: of the time, striking eighty percent of the time. He's

1129
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: in and outis at bats quickly, so it's really fast.

1130
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: He's still on twenty two bases in sixty games to

1131
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: Triple A, so he's just every time he does get

1132
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: on base, he's taking advantage of pitchers, taking a matage

1133
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 2: of catchers and doing that. That's a skill likely will translate,

1134
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: but just it seems like as he moves through his

1135
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: that bats very quickly. The pitch selection is something that's

1136
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: not really there, because he's hitting ground balls about sixty

1137
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 2: percent of the time with Triple A and hitting ground

1138
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: all six percent times a bad thing. But something that's

1139
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: much worse it's his pop up rate infield. Fly rate

1140
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: is thirty four percent. That's crazy high, so a third

1141
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: of the balls he puts in player pop ups in

1142
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: the infield. The pop up on the infield is literally

1143
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: the worst than you could ever do is a bit.

1144
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: It'll never it will never ever wind up. All the

1145
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 2: worst context especially got us want to clean you so fast.

1146
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: Few ground balls against minor leaguers. Sometimes you will find

1147
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: a way to get get hits there. So there are

1148
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: things he's doing well. There are things he's doing better. Again,

1149
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 2: the last month has been fine for him. Two ninety average,

1150
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: three fifty on base, nine multi hit games since last

1151
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 2: twenty three games, but triple A the offensivevironment is so crazy.

1152
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: It's still just about league average. So it's not it's

1153
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 2: not like the context of seeing a two ninety hitter

1154
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: doesn't mean like a two ninety hither like you think

1155
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: of two ninety hither, because the average there is about

1156
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 2: two ninety hither and the power there is crazy because

1157
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: he's using a juice up baseball, and the and play

1158
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: discipline should be like really good for players because the

1159
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: ke zones kind of fake. You can kind of manipulate

1160
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: the strike. Soon I really know what you're doing in

1161
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: terms of your patients and your approach. He's not really

1162
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 2: able to do any of that yet does all the skills

1163
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: that we wanted. Louis and Helicooney to show progress in

1164
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: this year. It's none of the things he showed progressing.

1165
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 2: He's even regressed in some of those places. I think

1166
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: it's just a situation where he has a last name

1167
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: and he was part of a big trade. But I

1168
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: don't want him to play in any games in major

1169
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 2: leagues this year.

1170
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 3: No, he's not ready. There shouldn't be a rush at all.

1171
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: Four it too, Like, it's fine if he has to

1172
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: play one hundred and fifty more games in Triple A.

1173
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 2: It's really okay because I think that Brett.

1174
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: Baby second base shows that too a little bit.

1175
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like you just gotta play some games there,

1176
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 2: and it's just to take take some time and do

1177
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: some stuff.

1178
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: Yep, all right. Tell me about Brandon Sproke because I've

1179
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: been seeing, uh, I've been seeing on Twitter people were

1180
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: freaking out a little bit because he's just like, hasn't

1181
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: really pitched in like a week. Yeah, it's weird.

1182
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: I wish I could tell you something about brands Broke,

1183
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: Like I wish you could make another start and keep

1184
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: nothing for me and keep furiously moving on the train

1185
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: to being one of the best pitching prospects in baseball,

1186
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: Like I know he is, but it's just he hasn't

1187
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: pitched in twelve days. It's a weird Vibueeah, he's supposed

1188
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: to pitch on Friday. I've heard murmurs, but I don't

1189
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 2: see that confirmed any where. Someone on Twitter and his

1190
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: dove said that there were like murmurs of like in quotes,

1191
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: a freak injury.

1192
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 3: I don't like those words.

1193
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: No, but he also said that it's supposedly nothing. He's

1194
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: been assured it's not serious. But when the freak injury

1195
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: is not serious, I don't know.

1196
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: I don't know, like the really really good, really big

1197
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: splinter in your toe, like really maybe.

1198
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 2: Split the nail, I don't know, whatever. Maybe it's like

1199
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: the world's biggest blister. But we're just not gonna talk

1200
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: about it more than that because it's a little it's

1201
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: a little scary and the rhetoric is strange, and we're

1202
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: just gonna leave it there.

1203
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 3: Okay, Blade did well. Saw his numbers in Triple A

1204
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 3: confusing because that first triple start right since then, not bad,

1205
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 3: but not could.

1206
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: It's funny that first triple A start. I think it

1207
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: was four walks and three strike gas. I'm pretty sure

1208
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: his most recent Triple A Star, which was his third

1209
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: I believe I remember correctly. It was the same four

1210
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: walks and three strike gas. The difference was this one

1211
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: he allowed three home runs and Triple A is weird

1212
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: the same way we talk about how it's weird to

1213
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: value Lewis and Hill Clooney as a hither and Triple

1214
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: A it's probably even hard to do as a pitcher

1215
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: because the ABS strike zones is like, it's strange, it's

1216
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: just weird, and the baseball they use is weird, so

1217
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: that stuffs strange. But it seems like that blade did well.

1218
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: Becau Again, we have all the data on these guys

1219
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 2: in Triple A. It's a blessing. These guys get a

1220
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: triple at Brooklyn, Bickhapton we know nothing. Saint Lucy and

1221
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: and Syracuse we know everything. It's just the the city

1222
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: has to start with an s, not with a big

1223
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 2: because there the only two options. The Mets minor league

1224
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: systems are big. We need that's not big. He seemed

1225
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: like he was really excited that for at Triple A

1226
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: starts fastball is ninety six nine seven miles an hour.

1227
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: Slider was like eighty four. It's change ups eighty two,

1228
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 2: like his color was eighty eight, like everything was getting

1229
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: in there. And since that start, the velossities sticked down

1230
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: a lot, and Blade has as like a fine fastball.

1231
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: It's a fastball is grabbing better, but it's not like

1232
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: a wow, blow by you fastball. So when his fastball

1233
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: goes from average velosity of like ninety six ninety seven

1234
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: to ninety two ninety three getting ninety four, it changes

1235
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: a lot about that fastball. It makes it much more hit.

1236
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: The ball players are twing a miss out loss often

1237
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 2: and everything is last start was down a few ticks.

1238
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: Kind of has me a little worried about Blade ted

1239
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 2: Will because everything was down two three miles an hour

1240
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: across the board. His release point was a little bit different.

1241
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: Doesn't actually mean anything, but just to me, it's a

1242
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: guy who's like, the mechanics aren't that right. So either

1243
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 2: it's just it was a bad day, or it's like

1244
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: you're kind of favoring something, so your arm flass changing

1245
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 2: a little bit. You're not able to repeat. But three

1246
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: home runs, like I said it, I wouldn't. I wouldn't

1247
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 2: take this like start to start like it's gonna change

1248
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: someone's the idea of a guy going forward. I still

1249
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: think Blade Blade's home is probably a guy who's like

1250
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: more of a four or five in rotation than like

1251
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: a one two, maybe winds up somewhere in between. But

1252
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: interesting to track start to start seeing major velocity changes

1253
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: is a little scary.

1254
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, of course, so you could something to keep

1255
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: an eye on. Another guy who's start to start has

1256
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: been a little interesting. Joanah tong Uh getting challenged at HYA.

1257
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: That's supposed to happen for was he twenty years old,

1258
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: twenty one? Whatever he is, he's a young whipper snapper,

1259
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: but he's getting challenged now at the k rate is

1260
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 3: still good twenty eight point two percent right now at

1261
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 3: HYA in Brooklyn, not the fifty two fifty three percent

1262
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: that we saw on Fort Saint Lucy that got him

1263
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 3: called up and everyone was like, ooh, is this fucking guy?

1264
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: He is still walking a lot of guys eleven percent

1265
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: walk rate, which is a little bit high, but again

1266
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: this is a twenty year old pitching it a high

1267
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: a well well fast tracking at what we ever thought

1268
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 3: we would see from Jonah Toong. So there's no huge

1269
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 3: updates necessarily on him, because again he's still kind of

1270
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: going through those growing pains of getting to the next

1271
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 3: level things that you see a lot of players do.

1272
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 3: We'll just keep an eye on him.

1273
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice that the walks have trended down in Brooklyn.

1274
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,959
Speaker 2: His first two starts in nine innings, he walks seven

1275
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 2: batters and since then he hasn't walked more than two

1276
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: in any outing. That's some of those outings have not

1277
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: been very long. It seems like it's just been back

1278
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: and forth combination of effectiveness but also maybe just not

1279
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: being right. He's only thrown He only threw two and

1280
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: the thirds innings from May twenty second to June sixth,

1281
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: so I don't know what happened there, and hear anything

1282
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: abou him being injured, but maybe it's just a maintenance

1283
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 2: on him. Maybe just something wasn't right. He's giving up

1284
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 2: some runs, which is weird, Like you kind of hate

1285
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: that Brooklyn because the spot is just supposed to be

1286
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 2: able to suppress contact that doesn't naturally. But the fact

1287
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: that he's keeping the ball in the strike zone. Again,

1288
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 2: we don't have any day there right now. So maybe,

1289
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: like when guys go down, it's it's hard to track

1290
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: guys going to go up and down system, it's hard

1291
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 2: to track the different stuff like we're looking for stats

1292
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 2: were being important, or if the team is looking for

1293
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: cues being important. Again. I heard in the podcast Is

1294
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: with Greats and Barrels that Max Meyer went down for

1295
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: the Marlins a couple months ago when he was pitching

1296
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: really well at the major league level. Yeah, and when

1297
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: he was pitching the major league level, he's basically a

1298
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty fastball slider guy. Since he went back down,

1299
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: I think it was like fifty to forty and then

1300
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 2: like ten percent change ups. Since he went back down,

1301
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: he's been fifty fastball, but like twenty five change up,

1302
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 2: twenty five slider. Okay, So that's the Marlins being like,

1303
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: we need you to get better at that change up. So,

1304
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: like his stats have been bad because he's working on

1305
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: a pitch he's not that comfortable with. So because we

1306
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 2: don't know what Joorah Tong is doing. Like maybe the

1307
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: metcha like the fastball and the curve ball are great,

1308
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: and we saw this colored gyroslier thing coming along. We

1309
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: need you to be throwing that twenty times start. Yeah,

1310
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 2: So like maybe that's just why he can't make it

1311
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: get contacts well as he wasn't and being in Saint Lucie,

1312
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: maybe that's why he's not making so many bads. He

1313
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 2: was like, it's a little different. You can't just hammer

1314
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: the same two things over and over again, because there

1315
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: may be cues from scouting, coaching, training everything that not scouting.

1316
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: Why was scouting ever give cues? Not true? But coaching

1317
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: and development that's the things that's happening. So also, you

1318
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: know that that pitching lab is right next door in

1319
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: Port Saint Lucie. You could go in there, go in

1320
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: there and work on things near offic you could tink

1321
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 2: her well, thinker out. I don't think brook on the

1322
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: same kind of facilities. But it's just again not getting

1323
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 2: obsessed with these stats from these guys in mynor leagues,

1324
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 2: just keeping track of what what's going on with them.

1325
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 3: Yep, he's just by. Is Nick Morbrido still mashing? Uh?

1326
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 3: They're just good baseball players, keep doing their thing. Nick

1327
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 3: Morbido is still just dominating in the minors, which is great.

1328
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: But we've got two more names for you yet that

1329
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 3: you probably haven't heard. I don't think we've mentioned that

1330
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 3: miss one, Miss Ryan Clifford. Oh, yes, he's playing so good,

1331
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 3: good but weird. Yeah, well he's hitting home runs. Yeah,

1332
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: he's hitting home runs.

1333
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: Sitting home runs, striking out thirty percent of the time.

1334
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: It's strange that he's like hitting under two hundred and

1335
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 2: five home runs in like two weeks at being upsetted,

1336
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: fun on the settle in moms are relaxed and and

1337
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: something else funny. I've seen it Ran Clifford recently. I

1338
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: want to shout out great member of mess twether Alvarez

1339
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: met for life. He he he directed me to someone

1340
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: finding Ryan Clifford's dad just having like a like a

1341
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 2: Twitter aggas no yeah, and every single time anyone in

1342
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: Mets Twitter mentioned Ryan Clifford being like, uh, oh, Ryan's

1343
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: doing great, Like oh Ryan's having r Ryan's has a

1344
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: high ceiling in the metsine like, oh, positive good, Ryan's

1345
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 2: gonna be a great power hit there, like Ryan, Ryan's

1346
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: gonna be an amazing major league baseball player. Like all

1347
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: Ryan had to do is gather Brooklyn. Now the power's back,

1348
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: like saying like really specific things like that. So just

1349
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 2: like shout out him, like supporting his some but it's

1350
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: so many strike has so many walks for Clifford with

1351
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 2: the home runs. Maybe i'd like seen him a little

1352
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 2: more aggressive. I don't know. Maybe he's just being a

1353
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: little passive right now. I don't know.

1354
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 3: I think one of those things. We also don't know too.

1355
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 3: Remember like we were like in Brooklyn. He had no

1356
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 3: home runs, he wasn't really hitting for a power, but

1357
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 3: his walk rate was crazy through the roofs. So like

1358
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: maybe there are to don't swing the back because it's

1359
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: not gonna happen because you're hitting out to the beach.

1360
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 3: Could be it, could be it. So again, keep keep

1361
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: an eye.

1362
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: There's only been like two weeks in Bington, so we've

1363
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: got time.

1364
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: Last two guys I want to talk about here, Christopher Suero.

1365
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 3: I might have mentioned him in a previous prospect report

1366
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 3: briefly because he was hitting really well in Low A.

1367
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 3: He got called up to to Brooklyn, and since he has,

1368
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 3: it's been about a month now, he just keeps raking

1369
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: and he's kind of only ever mashed as a minor

1370
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 3: leaguer in since he got called up in Brooklyn. Four

1371
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: home runs eighteen RBIs a two fifty nine average with

1372
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 3: a three ninety six on base Love to see that

1373
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 3: four twenty four slugging which again it's Brooklyn. Take that

1374
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 3: with a grain of salt. We don't have his maxx

1375
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 3: vlos there, but in Port Saint Lucy had one MAXXVI

1376
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 3: one eight point eight, which is pretty impressive for a

1377
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 3: twenty year old. He's also five to eleven, like one eighties,

1378
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 3: built like a little brick shit house, so that's pretty

1379
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 3: cool to see as well from the Bronx. From the Bronx,

1380
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 3: when he hit his first time run in Brooklyn, good

1381
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 3: call by the announcer. I don't know who it was,

1382
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 3: but he's like Christian Suerro, first time run back in

1383
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 3: New York since he's been in high school. I was like, Oh,

1384
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 3: I like that. I didn't know. He's from the Bronx.

1385
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 3: Originally a catcher, still playing some catcher. He's also playing

1386
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: a lot of first base in left field, which I

1387
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 3: love to see that. They're like, hey, your bat seems

1388
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 3: to be good enough. We are gonna have to find

1389
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 3: positions for you because we know this organization is just

1390
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 3: loaded with catchers, and really, at the end of the day,

1391
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 3: unless you're Francisco Alvarez, you probably want to get the

1392
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 3: most out of this guy's bat, and it's not gonna

1393
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 3: come from behind the plate if he's catching every single day.

1394
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 3: So Christopher Suerro, love his swing, love the pop that

1395
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 3: I've seen, really good stuff. And then Douglas Orellana a

1396
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: pitcher also in Brooklyn. It's probably Oreana. Maybe I don't

1397
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 3: know Oreana. Yeah that makes sense. I can't believe we

1398
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 3: didn't know about this guy because it sounds like he

1399
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 3: has some pretty crazy stuff. Yeah, shout out to Mike

1400
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 3: Meyer again. This is where I found out what the

1401
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 3: vlos and stuff were because he's been pitching out Brooklyn

1402
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 3: this year. So based off what he was kind of

1403
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: throwing last year, throws into the mid high nineties with

1404
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 3: the fastball. If you're watching on YouTube, I'm gonna give

1405
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 3: you a a little visual of how he throws. But

1406
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 3: he kind of has that really short arm action where

1407
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 3: he goes just directly back, doesn't go down around directly back,

1408
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 3: and then super over the top down at you ninety

1409
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 3: five to ninety seven, which is really cool. His slider

1410
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 3: has an average RPM of twenty seven hundred, which I

1411
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 3: think I was talking to you about before. You said

1412
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 3: that's pretty high, right.

1413
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about ninety It would be ninety fifth percentile

1414
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 2: slider spin.

1415
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 3: In baseball, that's disgusting. Love to see that. And then

1416
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 3: this was what really caught my eye. Just seeing the clips,

1417
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 3: I was like, this dude's got a nasty fucking hammer.

1418
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 3: For those of you who don't know baseball, lingo curveball,

1419
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 3: and his curveball has broke up to sixty two inches

1420
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: of vertical break. That's five fucking feet. That feels insane

1421
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 3: to me. And the numbers he's put up have been

1422
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 3: really good. Now he's hurt. I don't know what happened.

1423
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 3: Minor league reporting so bizarre. People will like tweet out

1424
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 3: videos every day, but then when a guy goes on

1425
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 3: the IL, nobody says what happens to him. Brooklyn Cyclones

1426
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: don't say why. They're like IL seven days, No clue

1427
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: what's going on. But up until then he was rocking

1428
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 3: a thirty two percent k rate with a eleven percent

1429
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 3: walk rate. This guy's got some stuff. I mean, it's cool.

1430
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 3: I think he's twenty one or twenty two years old

1431
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 3: as well. Like Met's just finding some little pieces here

1432
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: and there. This is why we like to do the

1433
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 3: prospect report for the Douglas Oreanas and Christopher Suerros of

1434
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 3: the organization.

1435
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: It's just so uplifting to see what the Mets are doing,

1436
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: like pitching development, Like as bad as has been the

1437
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 2: major league team this year, I almost all keeps washing

1438
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 2: off my back because I'm like, oh, we have thirty

1439
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 2: pitch the minor leagues right now, We're all gonna probably

1440
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 2: get close at least and contributing at the major league level.

1441
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 2: And I gut like Dougo s Aground is like that too,

1442
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: Like just having those pitch specs on a guy who's

1443
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: twenty years old, who was no kind of prospect, who

1444
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: came into you organization likely for next to nothing, being

1445
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 2: able to turn him into something like this already. It's incredible.

1446
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty cool stuff. That is the prosper Report. I

1447
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 3: hope you guys did enjoy it. We haven't given you

1448
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 3: a good one in a while, so I hope you

1449
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: liked that. That was pretty in depth. Let's go ahead

1450
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 3: and preview this Padres series on the weekend. I know

1451
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: who's pitching tomorrow night. We got a knuckleballer in town,

1452
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 3: Matt Waldron on the mound. I uh, he's been pitching

1453
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 3: pretty well really recently. It's very good.

1454
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: I want to say like basically a month now, he's

1455
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 2: becoming like a phenomenon. Patrick Mahomes tweeted about him.

1456
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: Yes, I saw that.

1457
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like everybody says, like everyone baseball players

1458
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 2: always the coolest, Everyone wants to talk about baseball players,

1459
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: and Waldron is sick. Like he's out here throwing a

1460
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: knuckleball and you were chastising the Padres a lot for

1461
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: giving him chance to have a chance in their rotation.

1462
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: I was heading into the season and he's kind of

1463
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: like paid them back and now just good like he is.

1464
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: I think he's I think I think he's a good pitcher.

1465
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: I don't know how to say, Like.

1466
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 3: He was getting nuked for like a year and a half,

1467
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 3: just absolutely fucking shit on it. As Keith would say,

1468
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: he's getting his tits lit. But this last month he's

1469
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: been money. I think he had a game with like

1470
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: ten strikeouts against the Braves. Now the Braves lineup is

1471
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: a little bit leaguer this this season, they haven't really

1472
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 3: been the same, but he has been pitching well and

1473
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 3: he's coming to town and I will definitely be glued

1474
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 3: to the TV because knuckleballers are fun to watch.

1475
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also Major League baseball need a knuckleballer again,

1476
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: like we need enough.

1477
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 3: But if this is because the dead ball, to this all,

1478
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 3: this all makes sense, the conspiracy theories, that's why he's

1479
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 3: not getting shit on anymore. My take was right, But

1480
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 3: they fuck with the baseball.

1481
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: Make Matt waldron good. I don't know he's given up.

1482
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: At least he hasn't given up more than two runs

1483
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 2: any starts since May eleventh. Two of those starts. Three

1484
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: of those starts, one was against the Dodgers, one was

1485
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, another one was in Cincinnati. So it's not

1486
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 2: easy places to pitch at all, easy teams to pitch against.

1487
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: It's fun. He's a fun little pitcher. I want to

1488
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: I'm trying to pull up. It's the Fangrass. The new

1489
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: Fangrass updates kind of is bugging me out. It's hard

1490
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: to it's hard to track things like I used to track.

1491
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: I'm not as quick with it as I want to be.

1492
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: But so I'm going back to Savar right now.

1493
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 3: What are you looking for?

1494
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 2: I want to see its Vassi. I want to see

1495
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 2: why these pitches work. And the fastball comes in nice, clean,

1496
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 2: nineties classic, but he's throwing the knuckleball forty percent of

1497
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 2: the time, and it's just I mean, it's knuckleball. Like

1498
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: we had Wakefield growing up, then we had Dicky close

1499
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: to home. Like it's just nice to have another one

1500
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: in the league that we can rely on.

1501
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, who doesn't love the knuckleball in my

1502
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 3: attempts at trying to be a pitcher in my youth, knuckleball.

1503
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 3: Love throwing a knuckleball out there, because I sure as

1504
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 3: fuck couldn't throw hard. He's funny too, because he'll he'll,

1505
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: like we're talking about before, like he'll make two different

1506
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 3: kinds of fastballs. He throws this fourteen or twenty three percent,

1507
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 3: sinker fifteen percent, a sweeper twenty percent of the time too.

1508
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 3: So it's just a lot of nonsense coming out for

1509
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 3: him once see, before we move on from it, I

1510
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 3: just want to see if if he's like changed a

1511
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 3: lot in these last months his pitch mix while it's

1512
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 3: happening great podcasting here, great podcast has change. Ah, just

1513
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 3: really more knuckleballs, really, but not that much. Baby, He's

1514
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 3: cut colors mostly. But yeah, it's just more knuckleballs and

1515
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 3: a lot of nonsense. He had one start May twenty eighth,

1516
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 3: that was against the That was against the Marlins. Yeah,

1517
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 3: trash it against the Marlins. He threw fifty through fifty

1518
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 3: five percent knuckleballs. His highs have been again any game

1519
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 3: this year, only the second time this year at the time,

1520
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 3: only second time in general, or actually the only time

1521
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 3: the series thrown more fifty percent knuckleballs in the start,

1522
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 3: And yeah, they track out to no walks.

1523
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 2: So that's pretty fun.

1524
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 3: What are the other pitching matchups in the series? Other

1525
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 3: picking match in this series?

1526
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 2: The mess are getting a break here that Joe muscove

1527
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 2: knew Darbish were both in the il Muscrove might be

1528
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: out for a while he got bones burn his elbow,

1529
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: but Darbish just seems like he's just at the age

1530
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: where he needs a couple weeks of maintenance every month

1531
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 2: and a half. But Mania versus Waldron and then Saturday

1532
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: yuck off, Cantana versu Adam Issour and then.

1533
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 3: Really, Adam Maser's up.

1534
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah you've been up for like two weeks now. Really,

1535
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: you go to England, you just forget about baseball, dude.

1536
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 3: I told you I've never felt more disconnected in my

1537
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 3: life from the sport.

1538
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: It was like things don't exist it's hard that time

1539
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: difference to keep track of it. It's kind of like

1540
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: so hard I keep track for a few winnings. I

1541
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: go to bed and I wake up and I just

1542
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 2: go on my phone for like forty five minutes straight.

1543
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: But uh, then Sunday man named Tyler McGill versus Dylan

1544
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: cease asof.

1545
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 3: Oh aceoft aceof Bill and has been pitching really good, too,

1546
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 3: fucking so good. The one guy I bet the fucking

1547
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 3: unders on and strikeouts, and he's gonna murder it. He's

1548
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 3: gonna crush it so hard.

1549
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go like twenty one and twenty

1550
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 2: four out of twenty four in those bets though, So

1551
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm pretty I'm pretty happy that we swept the board

1552
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: with those. But now Seas has been awesome.

1553
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

1554
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 2: He hasn't really changed anything either. He's just throwing less curveballs,

1555
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: but he's just good. He's got rid of those curveballs

1556
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 2: for some sweepers. The fish just fastballs slide of him, though,

1557
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 2: And I think it's just a big part of it

1558
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 2: is probably being on a team that's winning is helpful

1559
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 2: because probably we're on another team that doesn't use computers,

1560
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: so we can't really give much credit for that, and

1561
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 2: again he hasn't changed much. We're not gonna either. It's

1562
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: also just like pitching San Diego is awesome, Like it's

1563
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: just every day wake up, the weather is perfect, you

1564
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 2: give up fly balls that they catch it. It's just

1565
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: a great place to pitch, the great Ballpark's a great

1566
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 2: place to live. And he it's like he's kind of

1567
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 2: been the thing that's anchoring this Padres team and the

1568
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 2: spot that they are. I think they're about five hundred

1569
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 2: two games over five hundred now, but I think I

1570
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: think they're better than what I agree with you after this,

1571
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: Like I told you this before the season, we argued

1572
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: about this. I think they're actually good. Like I think

1573
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 2: they're a team where if this pitching is at full

1574
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 2: health and if Jerks and Profar is an All Star

1575
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 2: and finance that he's continues to do what he does, like,

1576
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 2: this is a team that probably most National League teams

1577
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: don't want to walk into a series against in the

1578
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: best of three.

1579
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: The difference, as we know, yeah, as as we've we've

1580
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 3: experienced Jerks and Profar has been the difference though, because

1581
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 3: like their offense otherwise, like Kronwers started off crazy hot

1582
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 3: and he's still relatively holding float, but he's probably gonna

1583
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 3: end up being a league average hitter on the season.

1584
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 3: And then like Hasu and Kim is like probably gonna

1585
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 3: end up being a league average hitter on the season.

1586
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: But Profar stuff seems like really sticky to use one

1587
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 3: of your words, might just it might have just happened

1588
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 3: for Jerks and Profar. I mean, this guy was the

1589
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: number one prospect in baseball, and it looks like he's

1590
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 3: now figured out a way to have that patience and

1591
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: discipline that he's always had and also leverage that into

1592
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 3: being like a valuable hitter and doing some damage as well.

1593
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: Kind of he's almost he's given way some of the

1594
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 2: patients here. The strikeouts and walks are still good, but

1595
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: Profar is a guy that's just like he does that

1596
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: same thing that Luis and Halakuni does, which is wow.

1597
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: I took Jerkson Profar what ten years to be good

1598
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 2: at the A level with that approach where he'll just

1599
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: take hacks, and now he's finally found a way to

1600
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 2: get to pull power pulled fla balls for the first

1601
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 2: time his entire career. And that's led to like being

1602
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 2: fifty percent better than league average and also be having

1603
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 2: like like a four to fifty on base percentage. I

1604
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: think it's back down like four hundred now.

1605
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 3: But taking twenty four. Yeah, it's still amazing. What this

1606
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 3: is Luis a Riaz series. I get to hate on

1607
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 3: Luisa Rise all weekend.

1608
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: I forgot that Louis Rise. We named like seven players

1609
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 2: this team before Luisa Rise, the next coming of Tony Gwynn.

1610
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: Keith was talking about Luis Rise the game tonight too.

1611
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 3: He's gonna fucking freak out. That might be our media marvels,

1612
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 3: just the fucking Luisa Rise coverage. It might that might

1613
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: be it. That might be the whole thing.

1614
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Triplet Lewis er Eyes has been like paying

1615
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 2: play really well. One of the Padre has been kind

1616
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: of awesome. He's another guy similar to talking about Day

1617
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 2: where it's like, you gotta hit enough to be one

1618
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: of the worst defenders in Baseball's right now he is.

1619
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: He is hitting enough of the worst friends in base.

1620
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 3: Where else is hitting? Who? Donnie Barrels Donovan Solano has

1621
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 3: been raking as well for the Padres.

1622
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: It's thanking for that guy to being met in my

1623
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 2: entire adult life.

1624
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 3: But how old Donovan Solano quick, don't look thirty one,

1625
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 3: thirty six? Shut the fuck up, Dono Vin Sila's thirty six.

1626
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 3: I think he played on those Miami Marlins teams when

1627
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 3: they brought in like Reyes and stuff. He had twenty

1628
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 3: twelve Miami Marlins when they had the awful, awful m

1629
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 3: logo and Ozzie Gien was the manager. That's awesome.

1630
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: Should run the whole thing back with the exact same

1631
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 2: roster like it. Probably some of the record that have

1632
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: right now. I mean also the guy who's also hitting

1633
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: his Fernando Tatis junior like he he had a seventeen

1634
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 2: game hitting streak snap this week. He just everything is

1635
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: kind of seemed to coalesce for him again. At the

1636
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 2: same time, he sit like four home runs in the

1637
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 2: last seven games he has. Oh this actually is crazy, one, two, three,

1638
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 2: four or five six, seven straight games played with a

1639
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 2: run score. He's stealing bases again. It just seems like

1640
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 2: that the shape of his season. He started off kind

1641
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: of middling, kind of not really finding it, and now

1642
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: these last like three four weeks happening feels like you

1643
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: were about to get like a classic Fernando Tazzis junior

1644
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 2: power surge.

1645
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 3: Here's an one.

1646
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: How else Frantazzis junior twenty four, He's twenty five. He's

1647
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 2: still fucking twenty five years old. So this guy is

1648
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: still everything. And also just a quick anecdote for Mets fans.

1649
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 2: And never forget that the only reason forran ciscoal Indoor

1650
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 2: has the contract that half of you hate and think

1651
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: about all day long is because Peter Seidler was had

1652
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 2: cancer sadly and wanted to do everything he could for

1653
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 2: his players in his organization while he and like win

1654
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 2: a championship while he was still here and everyone talked

1655
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: so high of him. He was a great owner. He's

1656
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 2: very kind to everybody. He gave twenty one year old

1657
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: Fernanatatis Junior three hundred forty million dollars for one like

1658
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: basically one good season of baseball, and then payscal Indoor

1659
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: was like, I'm more experienced. I've been the more All

1660
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 2: Star games, i played more games, I've been to a

1661
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: World Series. I'm getting more money than that guy. And

1662
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 2: Fernanda and infhaiscal Indoor makes one more million dollars then

1663
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 2: from Antisti Junior. So do not think that any of

1664
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: this is an accident, what these contracts are and how

1665
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 2: these players do each other in terms of how each

1666
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 2: other are in the league. But I was just one

1667
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 2: of my favorite anecdotes about about the modern Mets and Padres.

1668
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a little lay up here too,

1669
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Strada. Robert Flarees got to talk about those guys too.

1670
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: Jeremiahstrada, His his shit's different, Like I don't even know

1671
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 2: how to describe it.

1672
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 3: If only the Cubs had a good reliever like him,

1673
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 3: what they'd better, Huh.

1674
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: I've really given.

1675
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: The Cubs a lot of credit, like on this show

1676
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 2: and just like talking doing baseball stuff in the last

1677
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 2: few years about like going against like the grain with

1678
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,919
Speaker 2: philosophy and finding these control artists with these deep pitch

1679
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 2: mixes and finding a lot of valuable pitchers that way,

1680
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: like you can't really discount with like Justin Steele and

1681
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: Javi Asato done, like they're literally keeping that team a

1682
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: playoff race. I think those two are actually just both

1683
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 2: actually really good. Like I'm not you're an asad believer, huh.

1684
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 2: I'm a sad believe that he's good, not that these

1685
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 2: he's good.

1686
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 3: Would you say you're an a sod sympathizer. I will

1687
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 3: not say that.

1688
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: Okay, damn it, I thought I was gonna get you.

1689
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm definitely definitely steal sympathized. Just Steel's a good picture.

1690
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 2: He does a lot of cool things. He has done

1691
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: tons of different fastballs, tons of Slyther variations.

1692
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 3: He's fucking dope.

1693
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 2: He's a real old school picture. But I guess they

1694
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 2: love these guys throwing ninety four They forgot about the

1695
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: guy throwing fucking one hundred eighties. Jeremiah Strade is like

1696
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: doing the same thing now that Mason Miller was doing

1697
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 2: in April, where he's literally untouchable. I think he had

1698
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: like I think being in Europe, you kind of miss

1699
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 2: all like the quick fifteen strikeouts in a row. Yeah,

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01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: that was it, fourteenth in a row, I think what

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Speaker 2: exactly was. But he's discussing Robert Swarez too. Both those

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01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 2: guys just throw fastballs to say, fucking you throwing fastball,

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Speaker 2: Fucking you throwing fastball over and over again. That's the

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Speaker 2: whole thing they do. And they're they're a fearsome bunch

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Speaker 2: at the back of the ball. But I don't want to

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01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 2: run into them because they have not blown many games

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Speaker 2: this year, and Patre's team is just really solid. They're

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Speaker 2: like realistically like one like middle of the line of

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Speaker 2: thumper away from being like a legit like World Series

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Speaker 2: and contender. Like if they had one guy in this team,

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Speaker 2: maybe a lefty outfielder that could be one of the

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Speaker 2: best hitters in baseball, they'd be fucking set.

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Speaker 3: By power hitting first baseman. You know. Oh I could

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Speaker 3: do that too. Yeah, I got a name, but we

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Speaker 3: will talk about that in another episode. This is this

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Speaker 3: gonna be a good heat check for the Mets. I

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Speaker 3: like this. This gonna be a fun series. It's gonna

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01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 3: be one that I'm gonna have a close eye on

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Speaker 3: for sure. I feel like more than normal, it's just

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Speaker 3: this is uh, this is this is good for both teams,

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Speaker 3: a good test on both sides of the ball. Anything

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Speaker 3: else here, James, before we wrap this one up, or

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Speaker 3: it's time to get going because it's been this has

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01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 3: been a long one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a long episode. I think, I think, I think,

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Speaker 2: I think anything else the Patres are missing on fun

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Speaker 2: ship thinks things talk about with them?

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Speaker 3: Well, no, I guess we'll check the ears of all

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Speaker 3: the guys before they get onto the mound, see if

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Speaker 3: they're shining this time.

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Speaker 2: Cast Maybe maybe maybe should Mabe tweet the bat and

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Speaker 2: see what happens?

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01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, get some people mad. See if someone top hears

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Speaker 3: about it and then tells the manager. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: we'll find out. Yeah, but I mean that's the episode, guys,

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Speaker 3: that's the episode. Thank you guys so much for listening

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Speaker 3: and watching. Make sure you follow us on our social

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Speaker 3: drop us a review, leading subscribe, Follow James on Twitter

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Speaker 3: at James on the Score Shiano, and I'm draft Nick

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Speaker 3: Mark with a C. See you guys on the next episode.

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