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Speaker 2: Come on, man, Jackson was on my ass man, come on,

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Speaker 1: Why why is all right, y'all? Let's talk about this.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards dunk that ship was like a fucking Adam bomb.

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Speaker 4: Like you have to do just watch the slow motion.

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Speaker 5: It was fucking incredible. Bro.

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Speaker 3: I think the wildest part of it was homing who

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Speaker 3: was wild to me. But you know, it was fucking incredible.

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Speaker 3: What I like most about it was when Aunt saw

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Speaker 3: He is right, like you saw. He was like yeah,

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Speaker 3: he was like wow. He was like, yo, I really

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Speaker 2: But I also loving the response he was like little nigga,

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Speaker 2: But the dunk itself, Bro, niggas that dunk off two

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Speaker 1: Aunt Edwards led NBA. Yeah for sure, Yeah he did. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: That was a Brian doc hit of a dunk, Like right,

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Speaker 1: The ship out of him. Bro.

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Speaker 3: You you gotta know your angles and you gotta find

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Speaker 5: Dunking on somebody absolutely is a skill. I think dunkin is.

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Speaker 2: More like like it's it's it's it's it's more physical

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It's like two bodies pushing

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying is I actually dunked in

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Speaker 2: But when I was playing, like so that's how I

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Speaker 1: The ball in the ear. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just maybe maybe I'll feel that way

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Speaker 4: So here, so here's my uh, here's my piece on

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Speaker 4: the most Skilled debate. And you know Kyrie Irving and

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Speaker 4: I said, in the last spot. I understand John and

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Speaker 4: many other people indexing ball handling and scoring or layup

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Speaker 4: packages as the hardest to develop skills like the skills

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Speaker 4: can see most clearly the mountaintop. However, being able to

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Speaker 4: dunk on someone like that is a skill. Being a

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Speaker 4: great passer is a skill. Being a great defender is

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Speaker 4: a skill. Being a great shot blocker is a skill

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Speaker 4: one's better at his best skill in history than him.

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Speaker 4: Lebron James is is the best at the most basketball

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Speaker 4: looked like all these dudes are unbelievably skilled.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, he's a deep ball shooter like Nigga.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden he the called his three point

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's my feeling on it. I think I

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Speaker 3: that Kyrie thrives at, at its essence, that's what basketball is, right.

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Speaker 3: Basketball is like a chess game where the defense is

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Speaker 3: Kyrie is perhaps the best we have ever seen at

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Speaker 3: of those situations. You can't paint Kyrie in a corner

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Speaker 3: Winby blocked the Kyrie lay up and we were praising Winby.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, because that shit just doesn't happen. Right,

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Speaker 3: A seven foot five God blocks and six for two

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Kyrie is special, man. And like I said,

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Speaker 3: this isn't me saying, hey, you know, let's turn down

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Speaker 3: the praise on Kyrie. No, this is me saying, let's

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Speaker 3: for let's put him in the right category. Kyrie is

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Speaker 3: been one Kyrie in the entire history of the sport.

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Speaker 3: But most skilled basketball player ever, like basketball player ever, No,

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Speaker 3: or Slider Kyrie, because there's more to basketball than dribbling

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Speaker 2: I think the most skilled basketball player is what Mike

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think Hoopers talk about skills.

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Speaker 2: They can say most skilled because when your coach tells

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: You feel me like we talking about like your relationship

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Nobody has a better connection or relationship to the basketball

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Draymond talked about the most skilled player he

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Speaker 2: But no, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean the thing like a horrible analogy.

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Speaker 2: It could be it could be like it thank you,

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Speaker 2: Is is we're talking about shit in a particular way.

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Speaker 1: Like we ain't talking about women. We're talking about were talking.

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Speaker 2: About the best we talking about We're talking about we

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Speaker 4: Also overly in that, like if you get around a

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Speaker 4: big would talk about Kyrie being the most skilled Okay,

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Speaker 4: because people play basketball value that his position, some position.

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Speaker 4: You think his skill set is more valuable than Steph

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Speaker 1: I don't think valuable.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's like talking about it that that's what you're seeing

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Speaker 1: That and I agree that what they do and that's

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Speaker 2: I just understand when you're building your skills, correct, but

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Speaker 4: Think that's correct.

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Speaker 1: But also, like the gods are talking, who gives they

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Speaker 2: Then I'm saying, but like bast of what players they

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Speaker 5: They say dumb shit all the time.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: But when hoops are talking about the essence of hoops, Bro,

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Speaker 2: you feel me, which is your relationship to the fucking basketball.

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Speaker 1: This is not that you feel me?

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Speaker 2: And let's talking. That's why. That's how they define skills.

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Speaker 2: That's how hoopers define skills.

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Speaker 2: And so like they can say he's the most skill

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Speaker 2: And so for me, it's just odd when it's like

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Speaker 1: No, they don't.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's how basketball players talk basketball.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But but but here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you where you're asking, Teddy's analogy falls short.

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Speaker 3: You know, someone asks, if someone if someone asks, that's fine. Yes,

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Speaker 3: if someone asks, is she physically responsible? You know that

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Speaker 3: I'm not coming from a place where I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: trying to turn down the praise on Kyrie. I'm saying,

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Speaker 3: let's praise him properly. He is not the best, the

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Speaker 3: it's Lebron. To me, he is the most deadly fucking

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Speaker 3: Swiss army nacte in the history of this.

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Speaker 2: But that's but there's a conversation for that. That's a

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Speaker 2: the goat conversation is a fucking circle.

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Speaker 1: That's a and that's what it should be. Right.

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Speaker 2: No conversation is about winning, Yeah, because people best best.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: No, because people will admit that Lebron does does more

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Speaker 2: But when we when we're talking best basketball player, right,

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Speaker 2: that's what we're talking about, So fuck everybody else, me US, three,

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Speaker 2: US four years. When we're talking best basketblayer, we're talking

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Speaker 2: about as career and all that ship We've talked about

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Would you say Jordan's cool?

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Speaker 1: You feel me?

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Speaker 2: But like, dog, that's that's why I'm like, That's why

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Speaker 2: I don't really fuck with that. I'm like, dog, like.

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Speaker 1: That is a different converse station.

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Speaker 2: When they're talking skills, we know what they're talking about,

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Speaker 2: Like we know where they're coming from.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying I don't know where.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm not you know where you're coming

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Speaker 1: from saying you know what you're coming from, and we're like,

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Speaker 1: That's how niggas well.

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Speaker 4: I do because I don't see the game that like,

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Speaker 2: You're saying, what, the relationship with the basketball is not

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Speaker 1: No, that's the game, the game.

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Speaker 4: I'm not disagreeing that, it's essence the game. I'm not

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Speaker 4: they do just as much. Because I'm not an NBA

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Speaker 4: basketball player, so I'm not the relationship to the basketball

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Speaker 1: And I think that they're not saying it's more important.

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Speaker 1: They're not saying it's more. We're saying when, but when

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Speaker 1: they're not saying that skill No, they're not.

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Speaker 2: They're not old ja Ja's more important.

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Speaker 1: It, and I was like, I don't think I'm gonna get.

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Speaker 6: Fired, No, no, no, But we're always just like, okay,

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Speaker 6: if we agree that like Kyrie and Steph are like

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Speaker 6: it brought it up. I was like, what's the difference there?

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Speaker 6: Is it like basketball like Q? Like why is step

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Speaker 6: so much better? We all agree, like more valuable to

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Speaker 6: a basketball team? Sure, and even though the skills are

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Speaker 6: Steph is his basketball like you.

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Speaker 1: He was not talking about Kyrie, to be clear.

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Speaker 6: He was just saying Steph Curry's basketball like Q is

434
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Speaker 6: like off the charts, and like, I think that's the

435
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Speaker 6: difference there. And I think that's what a lot of Again,

436
00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,800
Speaker 6: it doesn't matter like whether you think that's what should

437
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,040
Speaker 6: be classified as a skill or not whatever, But I

438
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Speaker 6: think that it's about when when what John is describing

439
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Speaker 6: and I think what I is of can under agree

440
00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,359
Speaker 6: with a little bit is the skills idea is about

441
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,000
Speaker 6: learned physical skills learned ones not that not not not

442
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Speaker 6: like born physical skills like your size, learn physical skills,

443
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Speaker 6: which which I.

444
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Speaker 4: Agree with false dichotomy bro which I agree.

445
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Speaker 6: Sort of like sets to the side some of like

446
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,200
Speaker 6: the defense and playmaking aspects, which are like mental skills

447
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,760
Speaker 6: that you need to learn, but like yeah, which which

448
00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 6: is which under understates the idea of a mental skill.

449
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 6: But they're talking about just the physical learned physical skills.

450
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Speaker 6: But that's how they talk about basketball. And so for me,

451
00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,639
Speaker 6: it's like, and that's how everybody on every level. And

452
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Speaker 6: you said, you're not an NBA player, nigga, like if

453
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,679
Speaker 6: you in a in a if you playing like Vinny's

454
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 6: kid kids, when you talk about you know, Venie's age,

455
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Speaker 6: like in every level, you know what I'm saying, I've

456
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 6: never been to a level closer, but like like, but

457
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Speaker 6: like every level I've been on, they talk about basketball

458
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Speaker 6: in that way. So like I understand, you're right, you're

459
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,879
Speaker 6: right if you feel me like what you how you

460
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Speaker 6: just but like nobody talks about basketball in that way, bro,

461
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 6: And so that's that's why I'm like, nobody's around basketball

462
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Speaker 6: and basketball.

463
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,120
Speaker 1: Talks about basketball like that.

464
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Speaker 2: So that's why that's why I'm like, I don't know,

465
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Speaker 2: I don't fuck with the spirit of that ship because

466
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 2: that's not how people that funck with the game really

467
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,400
Speaker 2: talk about the game.

468
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Speaker 1: And that's what that's why I made with it. But

469
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Speaker 1: I understand y'all are right.

470
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Speaker 4: With the game and love the game and talk about

471
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Speaker 4: the game.

472
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I'm just, I'm just I'm just saying,

473
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Speaker 2: like if you as a I don't know, maybe maybe

474
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Speaker 2: it's like I I I spent a lot of time

475
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,199
Speaker 2: me one on one with that basketball, right, and like

476
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 2: seeing Kyrie is like, god damn, bro, sure you know

477
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,159
Speaker 2: what's because it's like it's like like being alone in

478
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Speaker 2: the gym, me and the ball, trying to build a relationship,

479
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 2: and there's times you feel like it's connected to you, right.

480
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 2: But and I think this is where they're coming from

481
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 2: because like them, nigga spent more time than you could

482
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Speaker 2: even imagine working.

483
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Speaker 1: On that fucking game.

484
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, this nigga can go to a place

485
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 2: that I've never seen anybody go to with that fucking

486
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 2: rock and that's so beautiful to see.

487
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Speaker 1: And they're speaking to that and then we're like we

488
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Speaker 1: need a better definition.

489
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Speaker 2: It's like, I don't, bro, we just saw a nigga

490
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Speaker 2: do something that and people are sitting to me like that.

491
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Speaker 4: To be clear, I don't think Tyler I have ever

492
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 4: said we need a better definition. We understand exactly what

493
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 4: people are saying, and we have a different interpretation of

494
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 4: the word skill.

495
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Speaker 1: Like which I think is like a what you're saying,

496
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Speaker 1: no but no.

497
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Speaker 2: But the thing is like he said something right, and

498
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 2: you're like, well, I don't know if we could say that.

499
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 2: We need to say this, that's what was, That's what was,

500
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Speaker 2: That's what y'all come up.

501
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Speaker 4: Here's here's here's a Here's a question that I have

502
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Speaker 4: for you, guys, because you have already acknowledged obviously that

503
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Speaker 4: there are other parts of the game and are reportant.

504
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Speaker 4: Do you think that the gap between Steph Curry and

505
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Speaker 4: everyone else in shooting is the biggest gap between the

506
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Speaker 4: top player in a skill and the second best player.

507
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Speaker 6: And I think I think Kyrie's I think I think

508
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Speaker 6: Steph is more skilled than Kyrie. To be clear, I

509
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 6: don't even think he's the most skilled player of all time.

510
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I do, I do, for sure.

511
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Speaker 2: I think I think in shooting the gap, yes, But

512
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Speaker 2: in the relationship to the basketball, I think Kyrie has

513
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 2: can do things and nobody's going to.

514
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: Like completely you know I'm saying, and so you. But

515
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Speaker 1: also I do think when you're talking about skill. I

516
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 1: think Steph is right there.

517
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 2: Like I think Steph is right there, we're talking about

518
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 2: his relationship with basketball. I just think, you know, his

519
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: shooting makes him a much better basketball player than Kyrie.

520
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, I think the thing

521
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 4: that NBA players are struggling to come to grips with.

522
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 4: And I'll be honest with you, I think you are

523
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 4: not the only person who's good at basketball who's also

524
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 4: struggling to come and grips with it. There's never been

525
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Speaker 4: a time when ball handling is less emphasized in the

526
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 4: way that the professional basketball is played.

527
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Speaker 1: Like, but he can as shoot the ball. He's doing the.

528
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 4: Thing they can to take guys dribbling the ball out

529
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Speaker 4: of it, like like they're moving everything they can towards

530
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 4: ball movement, getting off a screen, catching and shooting right.

531
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Speaker 1: It's not like that handling though, Bro, it's not just

532
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Speaker 1: ball handling.

533
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Speaker 2: I know I understand that, but I'm saying he's a

534
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Speaker 2: fifty to forty ninety guy.

535
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Speaker 1: He's always flirting with that, So there's not just ball handling.

536
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Speaker 4: You feel me, I know you're not part of You're

537
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 4: not talking about the percentage he shoots threes at or I'm.

538
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Speaker 1: Talking about you can shoot though he can. No, it's

539
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: shooting Steph's better.

540
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about Dudere's a bunch of you in relationship

541
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: with the ball, like when you're shooting the field, like

542
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: I would like, okay, as I would walk around doing

543
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: figure eights with the ball in my hand, just walking

544
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 2: around the house, and that would help with my shooting

545
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 2: because that was building my connection with the ball. When

546
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 2: I got the ball in my hand, it felt more comfortable,

547
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: you feel what I'm saying.

548
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Speaker 1: So that's part of it as well. Shooting is part

549
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: of it. Like anything.

550
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Speaker 2: He's a good shooter. He's a good shooter. He's finishing

551
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: at the rim his ball handling, you know what I mean.

552
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: His creativeness, like he has so much he can do

553
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 2: on both sides that nobody can do. He can go

554
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 2: place that nobody else can go. And that's what they're

555
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: talking about. And I'm just like, why can't we.

556
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: Just lean into that?

557
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 2: You feel me, nobody's nobody's nobody's taking anything away from

558
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: like Steph, and how how great of a skill he

559
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: hasn't shooting and just in general, it's just like, oh,

560
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: these niggas.

561
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Speaker 4: That I don't think anyone's nearly a skilled in basketball

562
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Speaker 4: players Labron bro I mean that's I'm not even like

563
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 4: making a real argument for Steph. I'm just saying, like,

564
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 4: within that, within the realm of what you're talking about,

565
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 4: that's my point with Steph. But like what you're saying

566
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 4: was the exact excitement I have for Braun as he

567
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 4: came into the league that all my other friends who

568
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 4: also love basketball play basketball at a high level. We're

569
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 4: talking about is no one's ever been more skilled at basketball.

570
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 4: This motherfucker can do everything every other player, like, I mean,

571
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 4: he ruined the concept of positions for the NBA like

572
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 4: so like that, And I just genuinely think it's a

573
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 4: little it's a short man bias, which most of us

574
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 4: are shorter than NBA players that like physical gifts, things

575
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 4: that are perceived as physical gifts, which I do believe

576
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 4: is a total fucking false dichotomy, like that those are

577
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Speaker 4: separate from developed physical skills.

578
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Speaker 2: But I just like players are saying that, and they're

579
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,959
Speaker 2: not short men. The people that you're talking about, Dude,

580
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: they're saying it. Like Biggs. If you ask him, Bead,

581
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: he probably says Kyrie. You know what I'm saying, Like,

582
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,479
Speaker 2: there's not just so that I don't know in this

583
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: conversation that doesn't apply, you know what I mean?

584
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 5: That's right, No, bro, I don't know.

585
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 3: NBA players are not honest with themselves a lot, like

586
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Speaker 3: like I remember Kad came at me because I said,

587
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 3: kd being seven foot and being able to utilize his

588
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 3: height over shorter defenders, that is a skill that he

589
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 3: has developed and he took offense to that, you know

590
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

591
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 5: So, so these guys are not completely honest with themselves.

592
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: Bro, Yeah, there's not themselves they're talking about.

593
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: If this is not themselves.

594
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 4: They're talking about, they're.

595
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 2: Talking about Kyrie, they're not talking about myself.

596
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 3: But no, I'm telling you, I'm telling you that that

597
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: that these basketballs players some beans is not the endo

598
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 3: bill because they are even delusional about themselves.

599
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: Okay for sure, for sure, Okay, okay, you know, but

600
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Speaker 2: like dude, like I just I just don't understand, Like

601
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: that's not just basket like Nigga said in the game,

602
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: when you're talking about skills, you're talking about it in

603
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: a particular way, like that's how you talk about skills,

604
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: like you don't talk about skills in the way we're

605
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: talking about skills right now. Nobody talks about skills like

606
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: that in like around the game. And that's why I'm

607
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: met with it, and we just disagreed. That's cool, But

608
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm just like, I just think that's a such a

609
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: different way of approaching than people that are actually like

610
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: fucking like right that they're playing the game.

611
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: You know, they're in the game. You know what I'm saying,

612
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: But it's how they talk about it.

613
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 4: But like, and this is where I actually do like

614
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 4: engauge in the argument John, They're talking about it, but

615
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 4: that's not what they're talking about, is not accurate to

616
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 4: the way they lived. Kevin Durant spent just as much

617
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 4: time developing his shot. Anthony Edwards was just talking an

618
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 4: interview last night about it takes twenty years to develop

619
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 4: the ability to shoot your jump shot the exact same

620
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 4: way every time the way KD did so. KD was

621
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 4: also as obsessively working skill wise on his skill of

622
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 4: shooting with a high release point as a seventh footer

623
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: as Kyrie. Irving basketball players value what Kyrie does more.

624
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 4: I completely understand that. I just disagree but me, and

625
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying, as a viewer of basketball, I find KD

626
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 4: as like we saw what seven footers looked like when

627
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: we were growing up. Kevin Durant's ability to have the

628
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 4: skills to transform my ability to even imagine what a

629
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 4: seventh foot human biting is capable of is a skill

630
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 4: to me, and it's a skill to Tyler, and it's

631
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 4: not a skill to KD. Like I understand that, I

632
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,239
Speaker 4: just disagree with him, and I know I'm saying it's

633
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 4: a little bit of a like, uh, there's a there's

634
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: an old like French poet lion, so I don't remember

635
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 4: it was, but it's like a plant, a plant and

636
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 4: does not know about horticulture. A plant is just a plant,

637
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 4: bro And I don't think that like basketball analysts have

638
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: more to say necessarily about basketball than basketball players. But

639
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: I do sometimes think players in sports have a bias

640
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: towards certain things that I just disagree with. And I'm

641
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 4: not saying I'm smarter than them or my opinion matters more,

642
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 4: but I just disagree and I understand where their bias

643
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 4: comes from.

644
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: I want to say that, you know, I'm not saying

645
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: that he wasn't working as obsessively as as Kyrie as

646
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: Kyrie was. No, I think the hair on I don't think.

647
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's I don't think anybody is working more.

648
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: I think they're all obsessing over the game, you feel me.

649
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: But Kyrie just has the ability basically, you know what

650
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Not a skill, No, I'm just I mean,

651
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: I think part of it's always natural. But I think

652
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: part of its natural, Like dude, Kyrie can do it,

653
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: Like I could work with just as hard as Kyrie.

654
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: We talked about this me all of us can work

655
00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: just as hard as step and I'll be able to

656
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: like Steph, you know what I'm saying, So part of

657
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: its natural. But like regardless of that, like he could,

658
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: he he has his ability allows him to do things

659
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: that others can't.

660
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: And that's what they're speaking to.

661
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 2: Nobody's saying, he's put more into than anybody else. And

662
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: that's that's how they That's how motherfuckers it. Like, that's

663
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: how they're talking about it.

664
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: And I understand. I just don't. I just yeah, I

665
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: just don't understand what it needs to be that, you know.

666
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I think I think I think

667
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: we understand what they're saying too. Like I said, I

668
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: think we're we understand the connotation. They're the most versatile

669
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 3: score ever, deepest bag of offensive counters ever. Right, I

670
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 3: think we understand that's what they're saying. But best skilled,

671
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 3: most player ever. Bro, that that's just way too We're

672
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: broad of a brush right there. Bro, you know that

673
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: that's where we're at. We understand the connotation. But I

674
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: kind of like for words to mean things. Bro, you

675
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: feel me?

676
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: So that's how speak the nigga.

677
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: But like that's that's that's a that's a that's what

678
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: motherfuckers say when niggas use words that in a way

679
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: that they don't mean us. But you know what I'm saying, Like,

680
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: we use words outside of the way they're defined in websters, right,

681
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: so doo hoopers, it means a particular thing within that

682
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: space we use words, and it means the thing.

683
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: Just happens to be a word.

684
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 4: It just happens to be a word that does also

685
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 4: mean the other things.

686
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: And that we when I'm saying the crib, I don't

687
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: mean a crib, I mean Saint Louis, nigga, you feel me? Who?

688
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: I like that all right before we go into a.

689
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 4: Whole conversation about fucking senectady.

690
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: I feel, I mean, I mean, nigga, Nigga just did

691
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: a crazy city. We want what's semantics? I'm like, Nigga,

692
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: why are we?

693
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 4: Like, come on, Game said, he's the most skilled player ever,

694
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: entirely player ever, most skilled ever player ever.

695
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: That's a that's a lofty fucking crown, dude. And like

696
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: I said, Kyrie is in a category of all his own,

697
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: and let's just let's just category categorize them correctly.

698
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 5: That's all I'm at with.

699
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: Amongst niggas that that that basketball, that's the category he's it.

700
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: I know, I'm not saying I'm not saying the gods.

701
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 2: The gods are saying that, like why are we? I

702
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: don't know for sure, And they're right, and they're just

703
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: the thing that they're saying. They're just using language that

704
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: we wouldn't used.

705
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: That's it.

706
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 4: We're not even arguing with the point they're making. We're

707
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: just arguing about like that's out the way I would

708
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 4: describe it. If you feel that's overly semantic for show,

709
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 4: I agree with Tyler. It's like I specifically use these

710
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: words to describe other players. So I feel the need

711
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 4: to distinguish that, you know.

712
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: What I mean, Kyrie had his ass and titties out,

713
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: and y'all want to talk about the responsibility.

714
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: And I just wanted to come here and talk about

715
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: at If you want to talk about.

716
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 4: The personality traits of Kyry Irving.

717
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: John, we can do this. No, no, this is no.

718
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: I didn't I just said I didn't want to talk

719
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: about that. I'm talking about the other thing the man was.

720
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: He was out there being thick and had his cheeks out,

721
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: and I want to talk about them cheeks. You feel

722
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: me and y'all came over here, we want to talk

723
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: about Well, it's.

724
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 5: Not you know all right.

725
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: I feel like I got here because, to use your analogy,

726
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 4: I feel like you sent us a quote of Dame

727
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: Lillard saying, that's the most full figure. I just said,

728
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: the most full figured woman I've ever seen on a

729
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 4: woman with a huge ass and no tds. That's what

730
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 4: I feel like, is you're saying, and Tyler and I

731
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 4: are just saying that to us. The phrase full figure.

732
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 4: It requires both actes, that's all.

733
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: What's And I love it. I love I love a

734
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: woman with no titties in a big ad.

735
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: Maybe that's just preference, you know what I'm saying, So hey,

736
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: that's that's the Ideal's really awkward.

737
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 4: Transition into talking about the new Beyonce album.

738
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: Speaking about Full Figure.

739
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: I didn't say that, but I'll due respect.

740
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: You, missus Carter.

741
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 4: Indeed, Beyonce dropped the album cover for her upcoming country

742
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: music album I want to I would assume everyone who

743
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: has cared about this has seen it, but I want

744
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 4: to give a little bit of the context. She said

745
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 4: the album is. She's dressed up in red, white and blue.

746
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: She's riding a white horse. Tyler already talked about the

747
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: importance of the symbolism of the horse in this three

748
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 4: acts that she's going to be doing. She's also carrying

749
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: an American flag, and she referenced. In discussing what went

750
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 4: into the cover for Cowboy Carter, she referenced her twenty

751
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: sixteen Country Music Awards performance with the Dixie Chicks where

752
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: she was heckled from the crowd. She said, this album

753
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 4: has been over five years in the making. It was

754
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 4: born out of an experience that I had years ago

755
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 4: where I did not feel welcomed, and it was very

756
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 4: clear that I wasn't what was your guys' reaction to

757
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 4: the album cover and to this way that she is

758
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 4: taking artistically to deal with that feeling of.

759
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: Not being welcomed.

760
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I love the motivation for the album.

761
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: She basically just the MJ meme and I took that

762
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: personally and like a fucking audio for right. So yeah,

763
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: soh yeah, I love that You're not gonna tell Beyonce

764
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: what she can and can't do?

765
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 5: Are you fucking crazy?

766
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: So very much, very much like I'm not even a

767
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: big country dude, but of course I'm a big Beyonce fan,

768
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna be locked in for this. So you know,

769
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: knowing that there was that added motivation of her wanting

770
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: to prove motherfucker is wrong on that, that for sure,

771
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: it piques my interest even a bit more here.

772
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Beyonce saying I'm Beyonce the you mean,

773
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm me, like I can I'm you do this well?

774
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: You say you say this, well, I'm gonna make a

775
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: whole last album you feel me? You mean, but like

776
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: American flag, you know what is it? What is a

777
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 2: symbolism with that? I'm wondering, you know.

778
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: What I mean?

779
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: I mean, from from the picture, it looks like it's

780
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: it was just her at a rodeo, right, Like, I

781
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: don't think she's out here being a patriot or you know, just.

782
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean a country album American flag? What do you

783
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean there's a Yeah, there's a I'm hoping.

784
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 6: It's a little bit of like reclaiming the space because

785
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 6: I wouldn't love that, dude, I wouldn't love the American flag.

786
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would love if it's that and

787
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: it spoke to that, but like, yeah, that.

788
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: Can I don't know if I can say this, well,

789
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: it feels a little like pandering.

790
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 5: Oh so you think you think so? You think she's

791
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 5: pandering to white folks.

792
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't don't.

793
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: I'm not saying she is, because I don't think she is.

794
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: I'm not saying, but that's what it feels like. I'm

795
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: talking about my feelings when I see American flag and

796
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: she's holding the American flag while you know, making a

797
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: country album that is not generally music that we listen to.

798
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna listen to because Beyonce, you know.

799
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: What I mean, It feels a particular way to me,

800
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: and I just would want to know the because it

801
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: could be reclaiming.

802
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is.

803
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 4: Beko just said, like a little a Twitter analysis, it

804
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 4: was exactly what I was gonna say, which is the

805
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 4: letter that accompanied the photo was about reclaiming spaces where

806
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 4: quote you did not feel welcome as she's holding an

807
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 4: American flag.

808
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: So perfect, perfect love that love that, loved that. And

809
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: you know what I was, no, no, no, see if

810
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 2: she if she said it was about that, she just said,

811
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: it's about that, right, yeah, that was her yea and

812
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: perfect yeah and and my counter to your point was

813
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: going to be, you know, Renaissance was just so celebratory

814
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: of black people and black gay people in particular, right.

815
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: Like, so I was like, I don't see her pandering

816
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 3: to white people. I don't see that. That would be the

817
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: next move here and then the trilogy, but then that,

818
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: But then that quote there of how she's reclaiming space,

819
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: because that was what Renaissance was about too. It was

820
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: about reclaiming these genres that black gay people pioneer itself.

821
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying I never said. I was saying, that's how

822
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: it feels to me. And I told you, I don't

823
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: think she did that. I don't think she would be

824
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: that as the next thing for Beyonce to do.

825
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 4: That, that's just I'm wondering action in America.

826
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, to be like why, like why are we doing that?

827
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: You know, and but speaking But I'm glad that's what

828
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: she was and it makes sense what she was doing.

829
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, I it didn't make sense Beyonce holding American

830
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: flag and I was wondering why you feel me based

831
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: on how she's been when it comes to like the

832
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: injustices is going on, you know what I'm saying.

833
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: So I just finished Villaging King's autobiography and and I'm

834
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 4: always so impressed by people who change society while being like,

835
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 4: there's the phrase a joyful warrior, and I think this

836
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: is such a difficult thing to do to like this

837
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: is Beyonce is making a statement about America on what

838
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 4: will be the number one album of the year and

839
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 4: will probably be the funnest fuck album to listen to

840
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 4: as well. Right, But like she's saying, like that ability

841
00:35:54,960 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: to transform hurt at injustice into something that's a joyful

842
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: movement or an album that can bring people along and

843
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 4: make them feel included, Like I think that that's such

844
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 4: a rare. I just feel like there's like a dozen

845
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 4: people on earth a generation who have that. Sometimes they

846
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: play baseball, sometimes they play tennis, sometimes they make music,

847
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: you know, like and there's nothing we could Sometimes they

848
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 4: want to run for for president, you know, like like whatever.

849
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 4: But rumored collaborators on the Cowboy Carter album Dolly Parton,

850
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift, Meghan the Stallion, and Lady Gaga.

851
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: Wo right, I love that that ship is going to

852
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: fucking shift.

853
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 5: Appearance.

854
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 4: But right right, he's not as famous as those four

855
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 4: people could still be. And you know what I mean,

856
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 4: just it wasn't publicized in that particular tweek could still be.

857
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying For the c m A,

858
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 6: I want her to win all the awards just to

859
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 6: piss out the people who are like being upset about

860
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 6: this in anyway.

861
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 4: That's That's the other thing that's great is that the

862
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: people who are going to be upset are people that

863
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 4: we can all enjoy being upset. Perfect Like, like someone

864
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 4: yelled at her when she was on stage with the

865
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Speaker 4: Dixie Chicks, Get that bitch off the stage. So we'll

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Speaker 4: know that from the Country Music Awards.

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Speaker 5: Bro yelling at with the Dixie Chicks.

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Speaker 1: Who who? Who?

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Speaker 4: Who?

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Speaker 3: Went fucking completely left wing with their ship during the

871
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Speaker 3: during the fucking you know war in our racking ship,

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Speaker 3: and Beyonce is the one they single out.

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Speaker 1: That's wild, Yeah, because it's not about politics niggas.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 1: You thought, yeah, right right, right right. It's always this,

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Speaker 1: It's always always this, ye quick.

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Speaker 7: Wait, I just wanted to say that I do feel

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Speaker 7: like I sudmosted you a second ago, Mike too. People

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Speaker 7: forget that Beyonce is from Texas, like she was probably

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Speaker 7: raised I mean, I'm assuming, but like raised on country

881
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Speaker 7: music and dollar parton. So like the uproar people being

882
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Speaker 7: upset about her putting up putting out a country music

883
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Speaker 7: is kind of funny to meause it's like she's in

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Speaker 7: a sense like maybe that's just her going back to

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Speaker 7: her roots and like doing a soulful country R and

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Speaker 7: B whatever it is, you know. Oh, I just.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's like anytime people try and like say

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Speaker 4: like it's like protect the racial purity of country music,

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Speaker 4: it's like it's the music of the South. And also

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Speaker 4: it all came out of black music tradition.

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Speaker 5: It is her culture.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 4: All right, we got we only got a couple more minutes,

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Speaker 4: so real quick, uh, I have to bring everyone's attention

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Speaker 4: to uh fucking beko. Thank you for passing this along

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Speaker 4: to us. Duncan Donut has released a new drink, The

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Speaker 4: Small Iced Coffee, will now be referred to as the

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Speaker 4: Short King in the Duncan app because sometimes you don't

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Speaker 4: need a large or even a medium, you just need

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Speaker 4: a short king.

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Speaker 5: Is this finally representations representation right there? Man? I love it, man,

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Speaker 5: you shouts to the shortcakes bro myself.

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Speaker 1: I just love how fun. I just love how fun

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Speaker 1: it is too, you know what I mean? Like you

905
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Speaker 1: could just say small, No, let's call it short King.

906
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I love that need that

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Speaker 1: in business? You feel me?

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00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: Bring back whimsy okay.

909
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Speaker 1: For real.

910
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Speaker 4: We're the official podcast of Whimsy and Yearning. Okay, so

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00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: that's our brand. We want more whimsy and we want

912
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Speaker 4: more fucking yearning.

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Speaker 2: I could frolic with a short king, fucking you know

914
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like Drake, for sure?

915
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Speaker 1: I need that. I need that, bro, all right.

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Speaker 4: Last last thing before we get out of here. I

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Speaker 4: have a quick game that I want to play, which

918
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 4: is it's called dickhead or asshole. Okay, you tell me

919
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 4: which one applies here. Charles Xavier started a superhero team

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00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 4: that it has been stuck in my head that he

921
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 4: really named the Xavier Man. Is he a dickhead or

922
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 4: an asshole for that?

923
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to go Comic book Mary here,

924
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Speaker 3: but I kind of get the connotation there. The x

925
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: being unknown and mutants are you know, there's some unknown

926
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Speaker 3: shit going on with that.

927
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Speaker 4: That's what he wants you to think, So, Tyler, he said,

928
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Speaker 4: this gene allows you to fly. I'm gonna name it

929
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Speaker 4: the Xavier gene. Bro, Like, that's what I think. Scientists

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Speaker 4: wouldn't named the ship like SARS fifty nine or some shit,

931
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? He just put his own

932
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Speaker 4: fucking initial on that ship on purpose.

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Speaker 1: Bro, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I guess my definition of dickhead and assole. I feel

935
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Speaker 3: like there's got to be some malicious intent to be

936
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Speaker 3: an asshole. I feel like you can be a dickhead

937
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Speaker 3: just by being inconsiderate, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Or being full of yourself. You feel me? So okay,

939
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Speaker 5: I'd probably go dickhead here with that. You don't understand it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, John, you feel his asshole move?

941
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Speaker 1: I think his asshole. Dickhead seems like something that dickheads

942
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Speaker 1: are me.

943
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Speaker 5: You know what assholes me? Bro?

944
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 4: I mean, how would you describe a person like children

945
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Speaker 4: and then enlisted them and then his private army named

946
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Speaker 4: after himself? How would you describe that person? So, by

947
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 4: the way, you and your teacher are gonna be fucking

948
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 4: beating up shoplifters in about forty five minutes here, so

949
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Speaker 4: get your math homework.

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Speaker 1: Done, Tyler.

951
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Speaker 3: So you think dickheads are just stupid, I feel like

952
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Speaker 3: there's a level of stupidity with dickheads that isn't there

953
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Speaker 3: with ass I feel like assholes are pompous, you know,

954
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Speaker 3: there's some malicious intent there. I feel like a dickhead

955
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Speaker 3: is as a dumb fuck who just pissed you off.

956
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Speaker 5: That's That's where I'm at with it.

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Speaker 2: I called somebody an asshole before I called them a dickhead.

958
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Speaker 2: You have to really piss me off for me to.

959
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Speaker 3: Cry, because they'd have to do something to you. Right,

960
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Speaker 3: there's there's my whole thing. Assholes Usually you say that

961
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Speaker 3: when someone does something with some malicious intent.

962
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Speaker 2: Right, I'd say dickhead, I say a dickhead if you

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Speaker 2: were if you were if you were coming at me

964
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Speaker 2: on in a particular way, like that's that's the like

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Speaker 2: you know, you fucking dickhead, Like I'm almost ready to fight,

966
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: Like you know that dickhead is a lot? Bro? I

968
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Speaker 1: think I could call somebody an asshole.

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Speaker 2: I think I think I might get pushed in the

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Speaker 2: face I called somebody a dickhead.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like that? Does that make

972
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Speaker 1: more sense that it makes it? Just like what's what's

973
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Speaker 1: most likely? You punts in the face.

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Speaker 2: Niggas are called assholes, but a dickhead, Oh, bro, they

975
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Speaker 2: gonna I might get my ass whoof You know what

976
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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: If I can't whoop the nigga myself? You feel me?

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Speaker 1: Is that on my tripping?

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Speaker 4: Who do you think is a quintessential asshole versus a

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Speaker 4: quintessential dickhead? Like who would be the platonic ideal of

981
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Speaker 4: those terms for you?

982
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Speaker 1: For either of you? Oh, let me ponder this.

983
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Speaker 4: I would say Donald Trump is the biggest asshole in

984
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Speaker 4: the world to me, Yes.

985
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Speaker 3: And yeah, he's an asshole. And I feel like his

986
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Speaker 3: followers are dickheads, right, Like you know what I'm saying,

987
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Speaker 3: I feel like there's that's like a perfect kind of example.

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Speaker 1: You feel me.

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00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 2: I think he's an assholead I think he's found a

990
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Speaker 2: way to be both.

991
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Speaker 1: I said, that's it. I don't know, but that's all right.

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Speaker 1: That's all the time I got.

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Speaker 4: This episode of Jenkinson Jones brought to you by Webster's Dictionary.

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Speaker 4: We will be back on Monday with our next regular episode.

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Speaker 4: Enjoy the NCAA tournament. I hope you find some games

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Speaker 4: to watch. I hope you find a way to get

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Speaker 4: out of working for the next couple of days and

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Speaker 4: relax and enjoy some games. We'll see y'all, so bye

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Speaker 4: bye the volume