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Speaker 1: Welcome to playmakers. Everyone. I'm Haley Ellwood. It is Week eight.

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Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Chargers are back off there by and

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Speaker 1: getting ready to take on the New England Patriots at home.

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Speaker 1: So joining me is Lindsay Rhodes. Lindsay is the host

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Speaker 1: of the NFL Rhodes Show, also direct TV Fantasy Zone,

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Speaker 1: and the newest member of the Chargers fan club. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here. I'm one over this year. I'm

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Speaker 1: completely one over. Like jumping in both feet, let's do this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the bandwagon. I know that you had a

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah on your podcast a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: It was an awesome episode and you were talking about that.

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Speaker 1: You were talking about how you know NFL fandom when

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Speaker 1: you work in the media is a little different, a

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Speaker 1: little weird because you kind of abandoned maybe that one team,

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Speaker 1: but you kind of can dip like TV shows. You

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Speaker 1: gave a good analogy. You like Succession, you like ted Lasso,

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Speaker 1: you can like all of the Chargers are one of

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Speaker 1: those TV shows you're now following. Just kind of what

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Speaker 1: are your impressions of this team and why are you

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Speaker 1: coming on board? Well, so most notably. The first thing

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Speaker 1: that I was like, I'm here for this is justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert just is one of those quarterbacks. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: breaking in any news here. Everybody knows this at this point,

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Speaker 1: like he is an ascending quarterback. I think he's somebody

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna be talking about for years to come,

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Speaker 1: that is going to be in that conversation at the

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Speaker 1: top of the league top quarterbacks in the league when

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Speaker 1: everybody puts their lists together. He's one of those names

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Speaker 1: that's going to come up for years. He's so good

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Speaker 1: and he's not perfect. Nobody I mean nobody, nobody's perfect,

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Speaker 1: but he's not. At this point in his career, there's

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Speaker 1: still you know, those plays. It's not like they're just

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Speaker 1: moving the chains all the time. Like when those big

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Speaker 1: moments come up on third down, he nails it. He's

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Speaker 1: so clutch in ways that I think are hard. You

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Speaker 1: know that that like clutch thing is hard to track tangibly,

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Speaker 1: but it just feels like he has that and that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what the Chargers have been missing for I don't

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Speaker 1: even know how many years. We don't need to go

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Speaker 1: down that road, but I feel like he's the guy

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Speaker 1: who kind of puts you over that hump so that

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Speaker 1: now you're winning the games that you should be winning.

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Speaker 1: You're not losing those games at the last second like that.

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Speaker 1: Have played the Chargers for so long. He's just a

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Speaker 1: special talent. He throws a beautiful ball, he makes big plays.

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Speaker 1: I just love him. You know, he's kind of a

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Speaker 1: low key personality. Love the hair, like the sweet lid

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Speaker 1: got a lot of swag. I like him. And then

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Speaker 1: the head band too, for sure, right yeah, and then Staley.

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Speaker 1: How can you not like Staley. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: anyone could listen to Staley talk about anything about football.

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Speaker 1: The way he handled the question about Gruden, all of it.

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Speaker 1: Every time he opens his mouth, I'm like, that is

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Speaker 1: exactly what if I were a fan of a team,

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Speaker 1: I would want my head coach to say to that

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Speaker 1: particular question. I just love him. I love how aggressive

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Speaker 1: he is. I love all the fourth downs. There's lots

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Speaker 1: of love. Yeah, I'm in love. I'm in love with

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. We'll take it. Yeah, we're excited to have you.

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Speaker 1: I think the one thing with Staley two is when

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Speaker 1: you talk about how he presents himself to media. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's the same guy in the meeting rooms, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's where you can see the buy in on

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Speaker 1: this team happening and this team being foreign two right now,

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Speaker 1: like I said, coming off there by, but but it

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Speaker 1: seems to be working. It seems to be working really well.

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Speaker 1: I do want to ask, though, because I know you

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Speaker 1: kind of workshop maybe some fan club names with Bogush,

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Speaker 1: did you come up with one? No? No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm still so I'm taking suggestions, okay, And since Chargers

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Speaker 1: fans are primarily the people that are listening to this,

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Speaker 1: you know, hit me up Lindsay Underscore Roads on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I'm here for names of my new found Chargers fan club.

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Speaker 1: It started out at Justin Herbert fan Club and the

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Speaker 1: suggestions I got were like Rainbow Herbert and just incredible

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Speaker 1: And I kind of love those because they're so bad

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like a fantasy football name. I guess.

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Speaker 1: You know you're looking for something that just makes you

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Speaker 1: now that I have really I'm adopting the whole team

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Speaker 1: and not just justin Herbert. Now I need suggestions that

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Speaker 1: are a little bit more inclusive. Sure, yeah, we'll open

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Speaker 1: those up. Hopefully you can get some We'll tweet it out,

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Speaker 1: get some people to tweet. There are options to you.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to this game. Chargers are four

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Speaker 1: and two, Patriots three and four. Hate to go back

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Speaker 1: to last year, but just gonna you know, we have

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Speaker 1: to mention it's the elephant in the room. The Pats

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Speaker 1: beat the Chargers forty five nothing, two very different teams.

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Speaker 1: But this game has taken place on Halloween. I know

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Speaker 1: Chargers fans do not want to be spooked again by

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Speaker 1: Bill and Belichick and his hoodie coming into so Fi.

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Speaker 1: What do you kind of overall make of this matchup.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a big test for the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's kind of a low key big test.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are not really giving

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Speaker 1: the Patriots a lot of credit this year, and for

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Speaker 1: good reason. We understand what we saw from them last year.

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Speaker 1: Though Chargers fans no better than most that sometimes you know,

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Speaker 1: even a not so good Patriots team can can hurt you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But but this year, I think what the Patriots are

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Speaker 1: big week for them. You had, um, it was the

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Speaker 1: New York Jets, right, so understand, and then you even

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Speaker 1: take the opponent out of it. The Patriots did exactly

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Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do against a team like that, though,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that the Patriots put up fifty four

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Speaker 1: is incredible because that is not an offense. So from

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Speaker 1: a low volume. You know, they're like one of those teams.

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Speaker 1: It's like death by papercut. Like it's not exciting, it's

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Speaker 1: not big play, it's not the Chargers. You're not going

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Speaker 1: They're just going to kind of like methodically do what

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Speaker 1: They took Dallas to overtime, and that was a game

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Speaker 1: where so Mac Jones had twenty one pass attempts and

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott had fifty one. Like it's just they're not

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Speaker 1: you've got thirty six pass attempts against the Jets, and

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Speaker 1: you have Mac Jones's first three hundred yard game, and

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Speaker 1: so you're starting to see that he can do some

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Speaker 1: of the things that we were wondering he couldn't do.

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Speaker 1: I think that they've just been very smart with their

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Speaker 1: Like he's not gonna lose the game because he's going

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Speaker 1: a rough one against the Saints. But aside from that,

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Speaker 1: he's not turning the ball over. He's very efficient. He

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Speaker 1: And then this week in particular, when you've got Damian

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Speaker 1: and I both know that that has been an area

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Speaker 1: then you've got Brandon Bolden that can come out of

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Speaker 1: I think that when I look at the Charger's schedule

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Speaker 1: moving forward, they're a handful of teams that I go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: not that they're going to lose, but I think that

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Speaker 1: it'll be you know, I can't I write, I can't

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Speaker 1: say for sure, like, oh, the Chargers should definitely win

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Speaker 1: of how Smartlichick is. I think all of this conversation

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Speaker 1: you know, give Bill Belichick a little bit of time

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Speaker 1: and some weapons and a quarterback who is a little

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Speaker 1: similarity to Tom Brady. Yeah, like you kind of mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get the guy like Herbert who's a

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Speaker 1: little more mobile, can't extend those plays. Yeah, exactly that too.

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Speaker 1: it comes to that Baltimore game, Herbert had said, you

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Speaker 1: defense just brought a lot of looks that they hadn't

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Speaker 1: seen on tape. They disguised a lot. Tom Brady was

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Speaker 1: on this Manning cast earlier this week and Peyton had

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Speaker 1: asked him about defenses, and he said, you know, Bill

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Speaker 1: against a Bill Belichick coach defense? Well, I don't I

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Speaker 1: that he's really good at is tailoring that week's game

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Speaker 1: we are best built to succeed. And sometimes I think

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Speaker 1: and then and we've all known this again from a

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Speaker 1: watching the games, it's easy. It has been easy the

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Speaker 1: You know, he's that guy who you're like, well, there's

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Speaker 1: so much potential there, but it just hasn't really panned out.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't panned out consistently, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's like a league winner at wide receiver. He's been

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Speaker 1: You want as many options as possible. You want guys

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Speaker 1: it's it's taken a toll on on t J. Hawkinson's

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Speaker 1: The Chargers are obviously a team that doesn't have that

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Speaker 1: very playable assets. And I think Mike Williams is gonna

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Speaker 1: win some people their fantasy leagues because you know, if

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Speaker 1: you can get a guy that late in a draft

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Speaker 1: who's gonna produce the way that he has produced, that's

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Speaker 1: that's how you win them. That's what we like to hear. Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on. If you want

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Speaker 1: to check it out, check out the NFL Roads Show

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. We look forward to this one. Yay,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. This has been fun.

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Speaker 1: Go Chargers. Give me your fan names, fan names, send

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Speaker 1: them to me, send them to Lindsay thank you,