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Speaker 1: Let's talk about revolution, abortion, inflation. Senator Ron Johnson's here

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Speaker 1: to talk Faiza. We're going to talk about another American

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Speaker 2: All that and more coming up.

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Speaker 1: And I'm right, you know, there's something different about us

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Speaker 1: ashamed to be an American, but we should understand that

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Speaker 1: we have something in our minds. You have something in

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Speaker 2: Revolution.

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Speaker 1: When we think about revolution, rebellion, we kind of like it,

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Speaker 1: don't we. Why, Well, we're Americans. We had a revolution here.

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Speaker 1: We were under the British government. They were oppressive, taxing, Nah,

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Speaker 1: and honest, we had a revolution.

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Speaker 2: We rebelled, We had a revolution.

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Speaker 1: And after our revolution things got.

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Speaker 2: Better for us, better for us.

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Speaker 1: No more kings, no more British Oh my gosh, we're free,

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Speaker 1: we have a constitution.

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Speaker 2: Things got better for us.

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Speaker 1: So the idea of rebellion and revolution for us as

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Speaker 2: It's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, revolution, But you ever read any history study any

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Speaker 1: history books at all.

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Speaker 1: When we talk about history on the show, there is

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Speaker 1: something historically that you can see over and over and

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Speaker 1: were an American before, you should be.

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Speaker 3: Thanking him now when I dropped this one on you.

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Speaker 3: There haven't been very many good revolutions in the history

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Speaker 1: Almost always, when people rise up in anger and they

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Speaker 3: Government sucks. Normally that government does suck. It's evil, it's bad.

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Speaker 1: But the people rise up and they cast out the government.

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Speaker 1: Almost every single time, things get worse.

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Speaker 3: They had some of the worst slavery in the Western

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Speaker 1: It's not happening as fast as you want or as

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Speaker 2: And that is a good thing. The old GOP is garbage.

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Speaker 3: It's useless, it's weak, it didn't conserve anything for us.

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Speaker 1: But then those same people five years later, ten years later,

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Speaker 1: the issue of abortion. Okay, let's get something straight here,

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Speaker 1: I understand completely Republicans who run nationally and try to

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Speaker 1: reversal on the issue. He's never been that pro life

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Speaker 3: A shot at pro lifers. It wasn't my fault that

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Speaker 3: So that's obviously how Trump thinks. Trump does his own

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Speaker 4: Many people have asked me what my position is on

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Speaker 1: Okay, whatever they decide must be the law of the land.

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Speaker 1: Send abortion back to the States. Many people had a

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Speaker 3: But that was Trump Monday he send it back to

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Speaker 2: All right, both people could live with it.

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Speaker 2: They did a ruling.

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Speaker 1: What did it say, Well, it's said that Arizona can

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Speaker 2: But then but then Trump said this today. Oh thanks sir,

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Speaker 5: Arizona go to war.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they did, and I'll be straightened out.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's all about the states.

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Speaker 6: Right, say that, and I'm turned to the governor and

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Speaker 1: Any problem with Donald Trump making a statement about abortion

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Speaker 1: give me big spending, just like Democrats do. The Republican

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Speaker 1: I've been voting Republican.

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Speaker 1: I've had a list of reasons why I can't vote Democrat,

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Speaker 1: awfully small on the Republican side. And after this revolution,

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Speaker 1: done with those foreign wars. But hey man, abortion's fine.

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Speaker 1: made you uncomfortable, but I am right. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: many things on this show tonight. First, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: lone start tr transfer. Let's talk about the timeshare. You

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Speaker 1: time share? Do you know that they tell you you're

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Speaker 1: It's very sad, out common. This is they all do it.

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Speaker 2: They lie and lie and line up.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, you signed the contract. Sorry you have to go

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Speaker 1: to section five, paragraph E. You see that it says

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Speaker 1: Lone Star Transfer has helped over twenty thousand people permanently

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Speaker 1: let them set you free.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: They are wonderful people. Eight four four three one zero

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Speaker 1: They put it in writing and they give you a timeframe.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back. I think we can feel great about

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Speaker 8: I was gonna ask, see what you made up to

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Speaker 8: the last jobs report. Well, it your shows that US

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Speaker 1: May thanks are going so well? I am excited. I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to hear that. Joining me now, Carol Roth. She

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Speaker 1: is a world.

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Speaker 2: Famous author at this point in time. Her latest book

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Speaker 1: You will Own Nothing, you know, Carol, Well, I don't

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Speaker 1: even have to introduce her anymore. Okay, Carol? Three point

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Speaker 1: five percent inflation. It's obviously much much much worse than that,

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Speaker 2: What should we do with all this stuff?

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Speaker 8: Well, the inflation report did come in hotter than Jesse

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Speaker 8: is Clayman's term for Yes, it was even worse than

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Speaker 8: Wall Street. And as you mentioned, we know that the

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Speaker 2: Off a fiscal cloth. Carol.

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Speaker 1: To get to the basics of this, and I know

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Speaker 2: Many times, and that's a true story, by the way.

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Speaker 1: But even I know if you add up a bunch

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Speaker 2: So how are we at three point five? Kerl?

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Speaker 8: Yes, they're you know, some other items that they've thrown

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Speaker 8: Not everybody's buying because they can't afford to buy them, Jesse,

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Speaker 2: I think one of my Twitter followers said this, you're.

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Speaker 8: At a gas station or you know, at a grocery store,

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Speaker 8: have Janet Yellen sit down with the media, you know,

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Speaker 1: Carol, I mentioned you are a world famous author. Now,

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Speaker 1: of course, like me, I'm just kidding. She's written a

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Speaker 1: lot more books than I have. But one of your

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Speaker 1: Small business is closing in mass still, what it looks

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Speaker 2: That's what I see happening. Am I wrong?

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Speaker 8: You are not wrong, And one of these days I

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Speaker 8: If you look out in California at this twenty dollars

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Speaker 8: That means it's going to push up the cost of everything,

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Speaker 2: So if it.

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Speaker 8: Goes away here, there's nowhere else you're going to get that,

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Speaker 8: and that's why it's so important for us to continue

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Speaker 1: Amen, Carol, you are the best, best, You are the best.

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Speaker 2: Thanking. I appreciate it, all right.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, the Biden administration, they're trying to do a

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Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson about that?

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be you know, she said, she

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Speaker 1: to get ready? Get ready for what?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Inflation's hotter than expected. You know, they haven't stopped printing money, right,

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Speaker 2: It's just they haven't.

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Speaker 1: They're bragging about not cutting a dime. Chuck Schumer himself bracking,

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Speaker 1: Oh well we didn't cut a nickel is actually what

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Speaker 1: he said. That's this direct quote. Have you made preparations?

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Speaker 1: Have you that retirement account? I just referenced. What have

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Speaker 1: Do you have it in your physical possession? You know

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Speaker 1: you don't need a bank vault. Right, Oxford Gold Group

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Speaker 1: isn't gonna send you gold bars, but they'll get coins,

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Speaker 1: silver or gold coins in your hands. Call Oxford Gold

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Speaker 1: Group and make preparations. Eight three three nine nine five gold.

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Speaker 2: All right? Eight three three nine nine five gold. We'll

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Speaker 2: be back. Colin said, you're.

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Speaker 6: Gonna offer a motion to dismiss the impeachment charges on Thursday.

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Speaker 9: Are you at all concerned that if.

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Speaker 6: Some Democrats and tough races both for that and you

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Speaker 7: To walk them on a campaign dro Look, we're gonna

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Speaker 7: Impeachment should never be used to settle policy disagreements.

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Speaker 1: We're going to try to resolve this issue. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: quite an issue, isn't it. You've been handed an impeachment.

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Speaker 1: You do have to have a trial, right, We'll see

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Speaker 1: if they play that game. Joining me now, a great

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Speaker 2: Senator Look, I can see it coming. I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: There's no way there's going to be an impeachment trial, right,

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Speaker 1: Only Republicans would do something so stupid.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's certainly what Santa Schumer is talking about right now.

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Speaker 6: And it's pretty obvious why they don't want impeachment trial

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Speaker 6: is they don't want the public understanding what a catastrophe

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Speaker 6: their open border policy is, so that they want a

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Speaker 6: table this as quickly as possible and move on. But

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Speaker 6: Republicans here in the Center, we're trying to do everything we

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Speaker 6: can to highlight this issue. We held a press conference

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Speaker 6: yesterday saying that our constitution response ability to hold a

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Speaker 6: trial when the House managed to send over the articles

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Speaker 6: of impeachment, and it's certainly our responsibility to point out

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Speaker 6: the American public the clear and present danger that is

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Speaker 6: President Biden and his Democrat colleagues in Congress their open

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Speaker 6: border policy. And it's extremely important to understand that it's

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Speaker 6: not just President Biden. This is every Democrat in Congress

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Speaker 6: supports an open border. They caused this problem, They just

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Speaker 6: don't want the American public to understand the full extent

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Speaker 6: of it.

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Speaker 1: Senator, how much power do we have the power to

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Speaker 1: force a trial. People don't understand how this works with

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Speaker 1: motions and this and that. Normal people don't understand how

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Speaker 1: that works.

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Speaker 3: Do we have the juice without the majority to force

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Speaker 3: a trial?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, probably not, particularly now the parliamentarian has ruled that

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Speaker 6: a motion the table would be in order. We don't

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Speaker 6: agree with that, but once in Parliamentarian rules, that's basically

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Speaker 6: how the Senate operates. But again, we don't have to

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Speaker 6: lay down, and we're not a number of US contacted

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Speaker 6: Speaker Johnson, who had intended to deliver those articles today

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Speaker 6: at five o'clock, setting up Schumer's tabling motion Thursday at

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Speaker 6: one o'clock. That's generally when the Senate is a journey

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Speaker 6: for the week and people are heading back to their states.

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Speaker 6: So they wanted to snuff this thing out this week.

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Speaker 6: A number of US contacted Speaker Johnson. He didn't really

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Speaker 6: understand the Senate only works till about noon on Thursday,

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Speaker 6: and so he decided to delay delivering those articles. So

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Speaker 6: we can make the point that we should hold a trial,

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Speaker 6: but certainly can we can make the point about what

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Speaker 6: a catastrophe Biden's open border policy is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's obvious. They don't want to actually solve this problem.

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Speaker 2: Even though old Papa.

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Speaker 3: Joe was on TV talking about shutting down the border.

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Speaker 10: Here he was, have you made a final decision on

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Speaker 10: taking executive order in terms of what do you want

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Speaker 10: to do at the border that includes the power to

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Speaker 10: shut down the border, as it was suggested.

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Speaker 8: Well, it suggested that we're examining whether or not I

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Speaker 8: have that power.

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Speaker 1: Why do these people pretend now, it's just it's very

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Speaker 1: obvious to everyone, isn't it, Senator. They don't want the

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Speaker 1: border clothes, They want it open.

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Speaker 6: It's obvious to me, it's obvious to you. But it's

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Speaker 6: all should be obvious that President Biden has the authority.

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Speaker 6: President Trump had the authority, even though it's been weakened

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Speaker 6: by court decisions. A president has, you know his the

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Speaker 6: current laws exude difference is what Supreme Court ruled. He

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Speaker 6: has authority. So President Trump used that authority to close

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Speaker 6: down the border. President Biden used that exinct that exact

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Speaker 6: same executive authority and open it back up. So he

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Speaker 6: has the authority, he just doesn't want to use it

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Speaker 6: because again, they want an open border. They caused this problem.

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Speaker 6: They just don't want the American public to notice it.

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Speaker 6: But the American public is noticing it, primarily because Democrat

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Speaker 6: mayors who touted their sanctuary cities realize that their sanctuary

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Speaker 6: cities are going to be destroyed by President Biden's open

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Speaker 6: border policy. So the mainstream media was forced to start

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Speaker 6: covering this catastrophe.

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Speaker 1: Senator Switching Gears, here's a couple of big debates going

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Speaker 1: on in Congress right now.

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Speaker 2: One of the biggies, probably the biggie, is PHISA.

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Speaker 1: Is the government going to keep being able to spy

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Speaker 1: on me and take all my stuff without actually getting

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Speaker 1: a warrant?

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Speaker 2: Are they? Is this something that GOP is findly going

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Speaker 2: to put a stop to? Well, I was hoping so.

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Speaker 6: I know. Chairman Jordans had worked with his committee to

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Speaker 6: require warrants on American citizens. For some reason, House Intelligence

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Speaker 6: Committee doesn't like that.

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Speaker 2: Other Republicans don't like that. I think it's too restrictive.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's too restrictive because now we've seen

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Speaker 6: how FAISA has been abused by the FBI, by federal

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Speaker 6: law enforcement, so he had to put those types of

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Speaker 6: controls in. I'm not sure what's going to happen. I

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Speaker 6: fear that the fix is in, but I certainly hope

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Speaker 6: that Chairman Jordan's amendments to get voted on because I

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Speaker 6: think if they will be voted on, sounds like they

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Speaker 6: would pass. So again, I don't know exactly how this

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Speaker 6: is going to be disposed of, but from my standpoint,

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Speaker 6: we definitely need reform FISI. And this is coming from

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Speaker 6: somebody who's supported in the past when we were told, well,

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Speaker 6: show us what American whose constitution rights have ever.

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Speaker 2: Been trampled on.

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Speaker 6: Back then, I couldn't point to anybody. Now I can

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Speaker 6: point to a former president of the United States whose

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Speaker 6: constitution rights were trampled on. So we absolutely need reform DEFAISA.

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Speaker 2: Senator.

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Speaker 3: Ukraine aid is obviously the other big thing in the

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Speaker 3: news right now.

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Speaker 2: What do we send? Do we send anything? Do we

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Speaker 2: send nothing?

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Speaker 1: You're a senator with access to a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that I don't have access to.

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Speaker 2: What is the goal for Ukraine?

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Speaker 3: It's one thing to stand up and say send Ukraine money,

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Speaker 3: That's not a goal.

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Speaker 2: What is the goal?

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Speaker 1: Do they believe they can push the Russians out? What

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Speaker 1: are they trying to do now?

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Speaker 6: Well, I fear what they're trying to do is use

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Speaker 6: Ukrainian people as a proxy. In a proxy organs Russia

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Speaker 6: to degree their military and industrial capacity. But I would

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Speaker 6: argue this is having an exact opposite effect. The war

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Speaker 6: in Ukraine has driven up oil prices, that means that

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Speaker 6: more oil revenue is going into Russia. They're building up

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Speaker 6: their industrial base, their military industrial complex, They're producing more

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Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty five millimeters shell. So I don't

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Speaker 6: see Russia getting weakened in this process. I see Ukraine

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Speaker 6: being destroyed. So from my standpoint, the only way this

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Speaker 6: war in Ukraine ends is in the negotiating table, and

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Speaker 6: any action we take ought to be trying to get

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Speaker 6: Putin to come to the negotiating table to end this

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Speaker 6: Buddy Stan salemate because.

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Speaker 2: In the end it's not good for Russia.

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Speaker 6: It's not good to have a Russian conscripts die to

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Speaker 6: destroy Ukraine further. But this administration, again, like most Democrats,

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Speaker 6: completely denying reality. I heard Chuck Schumer come out of

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Speaker 6: the White House meeting. Stay it's simple, sixty million dollars

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Speaker 6: of Ukraine gets that they win, If not, they lose.

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Speaker 6: How are they going to win? You're not going to

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Speaker 6: displace Russia out of Ukraine. Russia is not going to

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Speaker 6: lose this war. They have four times population vitamin Putin.

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Speaker 6: Losing this war's extension to Vladimir Putin. They have nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 6: They're not going to lose this war. We need to

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Speaker 6: recognize that unfortunate reality.

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Speaker 2: Senator.

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Speaker 1: Finally, Zuckerbucks are no longer as they know, They're no

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Speaker 1: longer going to be allowed in Wisconsin. I'm hearing a

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Speaker 1: lot of encouraging news in Wisconsin because of local school

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Speaker 1: board races. We have these ballot initiatives that are going through.

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Speaker 1: Is Wisconsin redder than maybe most people thought it is that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, they elected you.

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Speaker 6: I wish it were. I don't think it is. We're

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Speaker 6: a very evenly divided state. And the fact matter is

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Speaker 6: is in order to win, we need an incredibly strong

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Speaker 6: ground game.

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Speaker 2: We need community.

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Speaker 6: Captains, I mean Democrats. And this is true through other

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Speaker 6: states as well. They've got strongholds in the big Democrat

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Speaker 6: controlled cities. It's a lot easier to mind all the

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Speaker 6: volks they need in just a couple localities where Republicans.

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Speaker 6: We have to go throughout the state, every little small town,

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Speaker 6: every small city, we need to get all those votes.

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Speaker 6: So he's an incredibly strong ground game. Plus the rules

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Speaker 6: of elections are set. We may not like him, but

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Speaker 6: we have early voting, you have apps, team voting, you

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Speaker 6: have about harvesting Wisconsin. We've got to engage in all

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Speaker 6: of those things. We can't be outvoted prior to election day.

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Speaker 6: We need to do everything else to bank our vote early.

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Speaker 6: And that's what we're really encouraging throughout the stain Wisconsin

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Speaker 6: for Republicans to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure was, Senator, Thank you so much, so I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. All right, we have so much more. Jeffrey Clark,

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Speaker 1: who's going to join us next, all kinds of legal

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Speaker 1: matters and law fair and things we need to discuss

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Speaker 1: before he does that.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the law.

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Speaker 1: See that latest video out of New York, some piece

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Speaker 1: of trash, little old lady climbing the stairs of our

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Speaker 1: church and he just grabs her and just chucks it

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Speaker 1: right down the stairs.

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Speaker 2: It takes her purse. Our streets are filling up with animals.

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Speaker 2: You know this.

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Speaker 1: It's not just in New York City, it's in your

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Speaker 1: small town, top in the illegals all over the Dagone country.

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Speaker 1: What do you carry to protect yourself with What does

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Speaker 1: your mother carry, who's your daughter, your son? What do

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Speaker 1: you carry to protect yourself with your dad? Burna? A

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Speaker 1: burn up pistol launcher is a necessity. Burna is a

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Speaker 1: non lethal alternative. I carry lethal and non lethal. I

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Speaker 1: believe in carrying both. But maybe you hate guns. Whatever,

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Speaker 1: whether you carry them or don't like them at all.

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Speaker 3: Get a burn up pistol launcher shoots pepper balls or

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Speaker 3: tear gas balls.

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Speaker 1: Will save your life. And it's legal in all fifty states.

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Speaker 1: It's for everyone, no background checks, no permits needed. They'll

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Speaker 1: mail un to your front door. B y RNA burner

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Speaker 1: dot com, slash Jesse, We'll be back.

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Speaker 2: Law fair.

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Speaker 1: We love to use that term now, and we should

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Speaker 1: because there's a lot of lawfair going on in this country.

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Speaker 1: But most people use it. They focus only on Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: I realized that he's the star, he's the headliner, but

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Speaker 1: there have been a lot of Americans in and around

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Speaker 1: his orbit who have had their rights destroyed, attacked by

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Speaker 1: the legal system in this country.

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Speaker 2: And it's disgusting when it happens to anybody joining me now.

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Clark, former US Assistant Attorney General, Senior fellow at

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Speaker 1: the Center for Renewing America. Okay, Jeff, most people sadly

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Speaker 1: do not know your story. I do act like I don't, though.

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Speaker 1: Tell us what's happening to you and why?

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Speaker 9: Sure, Jesse, Well thanks for having me on. And look,

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Speaker 9: you know, as you said, President Trump's the star of

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Speaker 9: the evil attack called Lawfair. And if he's the star,

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Speaker 9: then I'm the understudy. I was just counting it up.

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Speaker 9: Today I'm fighting in eight different litigation forums. It's really amazing.

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Speaker 9: So here's a basic story. I served as a high

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Speaker 9: ranking official in the Justice Department in the Bush administration,

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Speaker 9: and then I got promoted to a Senate confirmed spot

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Speaker 9: in the Trump administration, and the Democrats blocked me for

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Speaker 9: quite a while. They know how intensely conservative that I

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Speaker 9: am and that I have a very successful litigation track record,

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Speaker 9: and so they delayed my confirmation until the middle of October.

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Speaker 9: I took office on November one of twenty eighteen, and

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Speaker 9: you know, served honorably in that Justice Department and in

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Speaker 9: the Bush forty three Justice Department. But I, you know,

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Speaker 9: according to sub made the mistake of touching the third

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Speaker 9: rail of the twenty twenty presidential election. And that began

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Speaker 9: my time of troubles. For a time I was actually

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Speaker 9: the acting Attorney General of the United States, people who

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Speaker 9: I thought were my friends viciously turned on me and

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Speaker 9: began to attack me, question my competence, even though I

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Speaker 9: was the only Assistant Attorney General put in charge of

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Speaker 9: two of seven of the main Justice litigating divisions that

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Speaker 9: are only seven, and I was running two at the

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Speaker 9: same time, you know. Yet they started to attack my

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Speaker 9: credentials because it seemed to me that they wanted to

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Speaker 9: just usher President Trump out of office and returned to

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Speaker 9: their lucrative partnerships, most of them in what's called big law.

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Speaker 9: And so I thought that, you know, an idea that

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Speaker 9: I had surfaced that didn't come to fruition, you know,

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Speaker 9: was just purely internal within the Justice Department. But these

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Speaker 9: same enemies leaked to the New York Times, and then

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Speaker 9: folks started coming after me. First the Senate Judiciary Committee,

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Speaker 9: then the House Oversight Committee, then the January sixth Committee,

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Speaker 9: then the DC Bar and most recently, I've been one

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Speaker 9: of the named criminal defendants in Fannie Willis's case in.

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Speaker 2: Fulton County, Georgia.

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Speaker 9: So that's what's mounted up the eight different forums in

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Speaker 9: federal court, state court. It's truly a nightmare. And if

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Speaker 9: you're not a litigator. Luckily I am keeping track of all.

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Speaker 9: That is not something I want to bore your viewers with.

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Speaker 9: But you know, trust me more litigation than you can

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Speaker 9: shake a stick at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but before we get to that third rail you touched,

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Speaker 1: I want you to just expand on something really quickly

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Speaker 1: for people because they don't understand how that works, before

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Speaker 1: they go back to big law. You referenced big law

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Speaker 1: where these people go. Were you telling me that when

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Speaker 1: these attorney generals and US attorneys when they leave government

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Speaker 1: as the public servants they are, that they don't go

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Speaker 1: on to rake leaves and work construction.

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Speaker 9: Somewhere, that they go somewhere else. Generally, yes, they do.

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Speaker 9: They return to big law. And look, I'm from big law.

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Speaker 2: I spent.

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Speaker 9: Eighteen years or so, at different points in time at

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Speaker 9: one of the most important big law firms, kirk Laronellis

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Speaker 9: as a partner from the end of the Bush forty

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Speaker 9: three first term until when I started serving in the

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Speaker 9: Trump administration, and as an associate before that. So most

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Speaker 9: of my career has either been at that large big

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Speaker 9: law firm or at the Justice Department. And as a

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Speaker 9: result though of touching the third rail of the election,

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Speaker 9: I've been canceled by big law. But all of the

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Speaker 9: people who aligned themselves against President Trump's view, of all

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Speaker 9: the Shenanigans that were involved in the twenty twenty election,

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Speaker 9: they've all gone back to very lucrative partnerships or other

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Speaker 9: kinds of arrangements with big law law firms.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, how that will all worked out?

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's discuss this third rail you touched that

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Speaker 1: has every single legal apparatus in this country coming down

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Speaker 1: on you. What exactly were you looking into?

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Speaker 2: What were you? What were you what bothered you about

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty?

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Speaker 9: Well, the first thing, Jesse, is that you know, I

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Speaker 9: have training in economics. I double majored in economics at Harvard,

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Speaker 9: and then I worked for three years doing tax policy

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Speaker 9: analysis and economic work for the state of Delaware before

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Speaker 9: I went to law school. And so I'm a sophisticated

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Speaker 9: consumer of statistical product and also worked with expert witnesses

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Speaker 9: when I was a litigator, and so I saw the

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Speaker 9: statistical analysis of this election and something was off to me.

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Speaker 9: And indeed, one of the witnesses that we presented at

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Speaker 9: my bar trial. In the last couple of weeks, John Lott,

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Speaker 9: who's an eminent economist, econometrician, statistician, he had concluded that

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Speaker 9: there was something very wrong, you know, especially in a

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Speaker 9: place like Fulton County, Georgia, which is where I focused

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Speaker 9: my efforts to look at. And eventually I wound up

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Speaker 9: being asked by President Trump, there's an email to this effect,

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Speaker 9: so you know, at the DOJ, the Biden DOJ released

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Speaker 9: it publicly so no one can deny it. I was

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Speaker 9: asked to look at the lack of signature verification in

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Speaker 9: Fulton County, and you know, what we suspected was true

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Speaker 9: at the time has definitely been confirmed in spades, which

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Speaker 9: is that there was no signature verification in Fulton County.

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Speaker 9: And without signature verification, Jesse, if you have a massive

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Speaker 9: expansion of mail in ballots, you're just looking at, you know,

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Speaker 9: something that can be exploited. And that's why, you know,

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Speaker 9: going back to a commission that President Carter was on

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Speaker 9: along with Jim Baker, they concluded that the area most

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Speaker 9: ripe for fraud was mail in ballots, and indeed, Bill Barr,

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Speaker 9: before his change of heart in December of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 9: In September or so of twenty twenty, he said the

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Speaker 9: same thing. Mail in ballots are you know, something that

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Speaker 9: can be exploited, And so you know, I touching this

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Speaker 9: third rail should not have been so catastrophic for my

745
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Speaker 9: career and for avoiding litigation. But you know, it's it

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Speaker 9: seems very odd that by raising these questions that have

747
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Speaker 9: been raised for decades, you know, I became a big target.

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Speaker 2: But that's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Why did Bill Barr have, in your opinion, why did

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Speaker 1: he have such a change of heart. It was such

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Speaker 1: a one eighty You would think that he would have

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Speaker 1: been behind you.

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Speaker 2: With all this.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know he's done a one eighty and now

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Speaker 9: it's a three sixty Jesse because he has an election

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Speaker 9: integrity group. I was explaining this to some you know,

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Speaker 9: friends of mine recently, Right, So, okay, there's there's gonna

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Speaker 9: be a problem with mail in ballots. We got to

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Speaker 9: watch for that in September. Right then you get to

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Speaker 9: know to December and it's, oh, you know, there's nothing wrong.

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Speaker 9: We found no problems with the election that could have

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Speaker 9: altered the outcome. And then he defended that for a

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Speaker 9: long time. But now you know he runs an organization

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Speaker 9: that is doing election integrity. But you know why is

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Speaker 9: everyone focused on the issue of election integrity because they

766
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Speaker 9: have strong suspicions about what happened in twenty twenty. So,

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Speaker 9: you know, like his head spinning more times than the

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Speaker 9: Roman god, you know Janis who had heads pointing in

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Speaker 9: two different directions.

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Speaker 2: Jesse, that is wonderful. We got to worry about mail

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Speaker 2: in ballots.

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Speaker 1: Hey, shut up about the mail in ballots. Send me

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Speaker 1: money for my fundraising group so I could get on

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Speaker 1: the mail in ballots. Okay, So how is this going

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Speaker 1: to shake out for you in the end? I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of this is in the courts, but surely

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Speaker 1: they're not They're not going to disbar you or something.

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Speaker 1: What are these people trying to do to you?

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Speaker 9: Well, Jesse, they are trying to disbar me. For a time,

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Speaker 9: the DC Bar Disciplinary Council, who's a government official in

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Speaker 9: d C under their home rule, was very cagy about

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Speaker 9: what kind of discipline he was seeking against me. But

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Speaker 9: eventually he let that cat out of the bag and

784
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Speaker 9: said that he was seeking disbarment. And then last week

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Speaker 9: at my trial at his closing statement, and then in

786
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Speaker 9: the remedy phase so called, he argued for that form

787
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Speaker 9: of relief. So that's what they're seeking. And the hearing committee,

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Speaker 9: it's an odd structure in d C. It's it's all volunteers,

789
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Speaker 9: two lawyer volunteers, one of whom is the chair of

790
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Speaker 9: the hearing committee and the other of whom is a layperson.

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Speaker 9: They met an executive session and they voted that, in

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Speaker 9: their view in a preliminary non binding determination, which is

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Speaker 9: kind of an oxymoron, that I had violated one of

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Speaker 9: two rules and they didn't specify which So over the

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Speaker 9: course of the next month, there's going to be post

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Speaker 9: trial briefing and then they'll issue a recommendation and then

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Speaker 9: you know, this process is very It goes then to

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Speaker 9: aborted professional responsibility and then to the DC Court of Appeals,

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Speaker 9: which is the highest local court un your home rule,

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Speaker 9: and then you know, I can ask the Supreme Court

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Speaker 9: to take the case potentially, because there are very important

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Speaker 9: federal and constitutional issues here.

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Speaker 1: Jesse, Yeah, they Jeffrey, I'm glad you were out there

804
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Speaker 1: telling your story. You were welcome back on my show anytime,

805
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: so I appreciate you very much. Thank you for doing

806
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Speaker 1: what you're doing. Think about that. Just process that for

807
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Speaker 1: a moment. It's not some idiot, some big shot and

808
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Speaker 1: all he did was dig into some Fulton County stuff

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Speaker 1: in Georgia. Hey the signature is there not matching? Hey,

810
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Speaker 1: what's going on here? And now they're trying to disbar

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Speaker 1: the man. What does that tell you? What are they

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Speaker 1: worried about? All right, still light in the mood. We

813
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Speaker 1: got a good one for you next. All right, it

814
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Speaker 1: is time to lighten the mood. And there's something that

815
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Speaker 1: kind of bums me out sometimes.

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Speaker 2: And this is what I know. It's weird, but this

817
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Speaker 2: is what kind of bums me out. Sometimes.

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Speaker 1: People get to know their local congressman or congresswoman. You

819
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Speaker 1: know who yours is. You're involved politically, you pay attention.

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Speaker 1: And there are four hundred and thirty five members of

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Speaker 1: the House. We'll set the senators aside for a moment.

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Speaker 1: Four hundred and thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Members in the House of Representatives.

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Speaker 1: There are so many weapons grade morons in there, just

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Speaker 1: the dumbest people you've ever seen or talked to in

826
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Speaker 1: your entire life. But because there's four hundred and thirty

827
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Speaker 1: five of them, it gets kind of lost in the

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Speaker 1: national news and you locally, you know your congressman's an idiot,

829
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Speaker 1: but you want the nation to know. The nation just

830
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Speaker 1: never finds out because there's so many of them. We

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Speaker 1: have one of those here in Houston. Her name is

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Speaker 1: Sheila Jackson Lee. Sheila Jackson Lee. It's really hard because

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of them out there. But she might

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Speaker 1: be the dumbest member of the United States Houses, a

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Speaker 1: House of Representatives. And I know how stupid all these

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Speaker 1: people are. And this woman, this is an Ivy League

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Speaker 1: graduate and a member of the United States Congress.

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Speaker 5: A full moon is that complete rounded circle which is

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Speaker 5: made up mostly of gases. And that's why the question,

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Speaker 5: the question is why or how could we as humans

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Speaker 5: live on the moon. Are the gases such that we

842
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Speaker 5: could do that? The Sun is a mighty powerful heat

843
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Speaker 5: and it's almost impossible to go near the Sun.

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Speaker 2: The moon is more manageable.

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Speaker 11: Member of Congress, the Moon's gases, but the Sun is.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's almost impossible to get close almost. Do

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Speaker 3: you have the way that you can get close to

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Speaker 3: the Sun, Sheila, Let's see you tomorrow.