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Speaker 1: welcome to the radio home of Ron and an Ian

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the

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Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

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Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls at eight

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Speaker 1: five and now he running, Hey, it's time to start

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Speaker 1: your engines. Wanting any in the car doctor here, you

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Speaker 1: know with spring right around the corner. Actually we're into spring.

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Speaker 1: We thought we'd lead off the top of the hour

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Speaker 1: with a great conversation about getting that car ready for

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Speaker 1: side of the car, and we forget about well, the cosmetics,

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Speaker 1: and what happens when you're maybe you know, to a

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Speaker 1: We've been talking lately about the three m ACU spray

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Speaker 1: spray gun system. Well, I've reached out to an expert

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Speaker 1: He's from three m He is in their Paint Booth

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Speaker 1: Solutions division, and Andy's gonna talk to us about the

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Speaker 1: three in MACU spray system itself. Andy, Welcome to the car.

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Speaker 1: Doctor sir, thanks for taking the time today. He of course,

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Speaker 1: run thanks for having me. You know, I talked about

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Speaker 1: like to hear your take on it. You know, can

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Speaker 1: or why not. The Accu spray system is purely built

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Speaker 1: on taking the pain out of painting. Yeah, I've talked

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Speaker 1: to hundreds of painters over the course of the last

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Speaker 1: eight years have been a part of this adventure. I'll

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Speaker 1: actually the Actu spray system is really intended um to

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Speaker 1: a replaceable atomizing head and we offer them in five

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Speaker 1: But allow you to do it for a couple of bucks.

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Speaker 1: you prep it seems like you're you're spending more time

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Speaker 1: breaks through it and locking up or binding or something

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00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 1: is I'm not sure if the brakes. I called the

430
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,919
Speaker 1: local transmission shop. They said, it does not sound like

431
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 1: the transmission. It sounds like the brakes. I called an

432
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 1: automotive shop. They said, it does not sound like the transmission,

433
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,439
Speaker 1: sounds like the brakes. So a friend and I we

434
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 1: rebuilt the front. We did replace the holes of the califers,

435
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 1: the rotors and fads. Let the brakes. Still the same problem, Okay,

436
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 1: so let me ask you this. Can you duplicate this

437
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 1: every time you come to a stop? No? Sometimes I

438
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 1: come to a slow stop, it does not happen. It

439
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 1: seems like the heart of the stop. It happens. Now

440
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 1: is it is it that something it's physically locked up?

441
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 1: Or does it feel like the brake pedal is buzzing

442
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 1: and rattling. The brake pedal is not buzzing and rattling.

443
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 1: It feels like it's a locking up or binding something

444
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 1: in there up. So when it when it's doing this

445
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 1: binding or rattle or this binding or locking up, have

446
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: you tried putting in a neutral? Yes? Does the truck

447
00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: continue to slow down and stop? No? And it does

448
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 1: not bind up for a lock when I put it

449
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 1: in neutral when it comes to a stop on a

450
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 1: brake pedal. Wait, wait a minute, So you're pulling up

451
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: to a stop sign, and well, how do you know

452
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 1: that it's it's it's locking up. That doesn't That doesn't

453
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: make any sense to me. Yet it doesn't make sense

454
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: to me either. Well, no, I'm just saying, what's what's

455
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 1: the sensation you're getting? If you're you're pulling up to

456
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: a stop sign, you're breaking the trucks slowing down anyway?

457
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: How do you know the true? What? What? What gives

458
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: you the impression that the truck is locked up? When

459
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: I let up on a brake pedal, get a because

460
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 1: like something bound up? Or lock my lad but off

461
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: on the brake pedal? Is it? When you let off

462
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: on the brake pedal, there's a noise from the truck somewhere,

463
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: like something is wound up and releasing. It sounds more

464
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: like mechanical than a noise. There's very little noise, more

465
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: of a me Catal's more of a jarring maybe feeling

466
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: to it. But it's intermittent. It can't be doing it

467
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: can't be due implicated on a hard stop. I can

468
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: not every time. No, let me ask you this. Have

469
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 1: you tried doing it on four jack stands? Put the

470
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: car and draw, drive it thirty miles, then lock up

471
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,679
Speaker 1: the brakes hard because what I'd like to try and

472
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: do is get it to the point where it's locked.

473
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: And can you spin the wheels? It's as simple as that.

474
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: Will the wheels move with your foot off the brake?

475
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: Will the wheels move when you when you go to

476
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: pull away from the stop sign? And maybe I don't

477
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: understand the sensation yet. But when you go to away,

478
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: when you go to pull away from the stops on,

479
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: is it is it that you feel like the truck

480
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 1: is dragging, like the brake is still applaud No, I

481
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: just want a lot of them bake pedal. It feels

482
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: like coming bound up or binding or locked up, and

483
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 1: let's loose and then just chuck his fine, So it's

484
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: it sounds it's so what you're describing as you telling me,

485
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: it feels like the truck is slow to release the

486
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: break Okay, So okay, what if we find a nice

487
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: quiet stretch of road and listen to the whole sentence?

488
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: All right? What do we find a nice quiet stretch

489
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: of road and understand the danger here? Because watch what

490
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, all right, and get the truck

491
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: rolling at thirty put it in neutral, break hard. What happens?

492
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: I have to find out right, what happens? Is it

493
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 1: a four wheel drive? What if you put the transfer

494
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 1: case in neutral? Enroll? What happens? Because then at that

495
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: point you've disconnected, You've disengaged the drive line. What I'm

496
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about in the back of my head

497
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: is and you said you did hoses in front breaks

498
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: and calipers and all that. I'm wondering if the Master

499
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,239
Speaker 1: cylinder itself is staying stuck on. I wonder if the

500
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: Master is dragging, And what I'd like to do is

501
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,479
Speaker 1: get it to a point. If he could duplicate this

502
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: up in the air on a lift on jack stans

503
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: whatever to the point and if the wheels don't turn

504
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: and the car is in neutral, all right, this is

505
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: an automatical stick automatic, Okay. I I'd be hard pressed

506
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: to think it's in the trans I think more likely

507
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: and possibly in the transfer case, but I think more

508
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 1: likely in the brakes. You know, if he if we

509
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: were to unbolt the Master from the booster and pull

510
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: it forward a little bit, you have to take it

511
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: all the way off, just pull it forward a little bit.

512
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: Does that release? Is the push rod stuck into the

513
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, is the push rod into the piston deeper?

514
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,719
Speaker 1: Is it's stuck in there? Do we possibly have a

515
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: bad break booster? Do we possibly have a Master cylinder

516
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: that's stuck in the apply position? Okay, if you pop

517
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: the Master forward off the boost or it should release

518
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: pressure if the Master stuck out. Now the question is

519
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: why is the master being applied when your foots off

520
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: the brake? Does that make sense? Yes? Um, you could

521
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: go through the pain of trying to again replicating this

522
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: if it's not consistent, becomes the chore. But then once

523
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: we replicate it, can you also if you if you

524
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 1: crack one of the bleeders coming on, not the bleeders,

525
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: the lines coming off the master for each wheel left front,

526
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: right front, whatever does does does cracking a line release

527
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: pressure on the system? Is it truly holding pressure? All right? Okay?

528
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: But I would start to think, you know, we gotta

529
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: think outside the box here. All right, let's let's let's

530
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: let's make it up. And you know, here's the real

531
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: scary part. I mean, if it was me and I

532
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: trust my driving and I was on a quiet back

533
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: road again, you got to think about this. I turned

534
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: the car off, I roll along at twenty neutral car.

535
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: Now understand, with the engine off, you're not gonna have

536
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: power breaks. You're not gonna have them long, okay, or

537
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: power steering. So it's it's a little bit of a chore.

538
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you could get this to happen at five miles

539
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: an hour or five mile roll, but I mean, I

540
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: want I want a deserted parking lots something like the

541
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: length of New Jersey. Uh. You know, before I go

542
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: and do this, you might run out of space being

543
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: in Hawaii. Um. But but the idea is if the

544
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: engine is not turning, if the trans isn't turning, Now

545
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: I'm down to it's it's a mechanical thing, all right.

546
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm just down to breaks break still function except for

547
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: the power break portion, regardless of whether the engines running

548
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: or not. But I would hold that off until your

549
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: very last fail safe. That's this is a that's a

550
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 1: risky maneuver, all right. Um, but I would I would

551
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: definitely try to get this to act up on a

552
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: lift or on a jackstand and and you know, release

553
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: the master what happens. So be careful here to you're

554
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: you're you're in perilous territory. You want to go slow?

555
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: All right? Would you would you? Would you call us

556
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: back next week? Let us know what happens. All right?

557
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: By the way, what's the weather like today? I woke

558
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,719
Speaker 1: up sporting five o'clock with seventy degrees a clear skies.

559
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: You sure you can now listen? You could petition your

560
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: local radio station. We'll come out and do a remote.

561
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: We just need a couple of tickets in a place

562
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: to stay. So all right, I'll bring my toolbox, I'll

563
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: fix the Toyota. How's that for a barter? So all right,

564
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: good luck to you Ken. Let us know what happens

565
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: you alright, brother? You two five five Tom? You want

566
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: to go to Hawaii? Uh? Of course, okay, so see

567
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: it's easy. Uh you know, let's let's go to Hawaii. Zero.

568
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: We're coming right back after this. Don't go away. Hey,

569
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: welcome back, car doctor rolling along. Let's go over to

570
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: Rich and Flora Park, New York, O seven Toyota Camray Rich.

571
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: Welcome to the car, doctor, sir. How can I help? I?

572
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: Um my son is near your shop. I'd say eight

573
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: miles away. That Toyota was mitigated, or the the problem

574
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 1: was mitigated. Water on the floor supposedly coming from the

575
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: evapp drain of the air conditioner. So apparently Toyota and

576
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: his insurance Atto Insurance paid. I don't know how they

577
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: split the bill, but it was fixed last year. The

578
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: problem is back. I haven't seen the car, but um

579
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: I was wondering if it makes sense to have your

580
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: crew or you take a look at it and advise

581
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: him how to go. Looking on the internet, I see

582
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 1: there's a problem with these cars, and there's a class

583
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: action or at least one lawsuit. I don't know where

584
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: that is, but um apparently there's an environmental mess in

585
00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: the car from the evapp dripping, there's into the vehicle,

586
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: there's there's and there's also get your hands on. Have

587
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: you seen Toyota bulletin double oh thirty three dish fourteen?

588
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: No I haven't. I If you read this, you'll sell

589
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: the car. Um. It talks about the the evaporator drink

590
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: gets blocked by insects, insect nests, and and they want

591
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: you to put a chemical up inside the evaporator in

592
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: the tube to help deter prevent them from crawling up there. Well,

593
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: my question then is if there's a technical service bulletin

594
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: out on this, why are they not advising the owners

595
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: of the cars and doing whatever has to be done.

596
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: Because the bulletin doesn't make it a recall a bulletin,

597
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,719
Speaker 1: so you know, the life cycle of information generally as

598
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: it comes from a manufacturer, is there is here by

599
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: the car, good, you love the car? Good to check cleared? Okay,

600
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: let's go on. So then you have a problem. And

601
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: if it's you know, if they sold ten thousand units

602
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: and five the people complain, it's handled internally at the

603
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: dealership level. If a thousand people complain, it becomes an

604
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: internal recall quietly just to make people happy and make

605
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: it go away. If it becomes two thousand, it it

606
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: becomes a bulletin where it's available for public knowledge. And

607
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: here's what we think you may find in terms of

608
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: resolving a problem. And here the number of complaints, right,

609
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: food change right? Could you give me that number. Take

610
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: take a look at TSB double O thirty three dash fourteen,

611
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: DOUBLET three dash fourteen, alright, came out April, and it

612
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: talks about the heating, ventilation, air conditioning, the evaporator, drain

613
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: hose is clogged because of insects. It's it's it's pretty

614
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: crazy stuff, all right. And they've actually and I believe

615
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: there's actually there might be an updated version of this

616
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: bulletin by now too. I ran into this about about

617
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, and they've got quite

618
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: a few bulletins to talk about intermittent odor. They want

619
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: the evaporator changed, they want all sorts of little innuendos

620
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: and things done to the vehicle as a result. I

621
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: would tell you to take it back to Toyota only

622
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: because they started on it and it's such a common problem.

623
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: And I always say it like this, Richard. I know

624
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: how much you guys love me, but to them, I'm nobody.

625
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: And it's but when you say they want the evaporative change,

626
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: that means what Toyota, Toyota not in not in this case,

627
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: in some of the some of the other bulletins, there's

628
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: there's a couple of bulletins that also talk about intermittent

629
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: smell problem. Right, that's it. Well, is it a different

630
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: problem or is it a you know it's uh like

631
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: for instance, if you get your hands on there's a

632
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: Toyota bulletin, or it's an internal memo triple zero nine

633
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: DASH twelve unpleasant odors from the dash VNS as I recall,

634
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: it's a little bit older. It's been out there since

635
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: about but they talk about changing the evapp and like

636
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: you said, they've had a lot of problems with this

637
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: generation uh Toyota camera and so forth in terms of

638
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: smells and things like that. Do you know if this

639
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: extends going forward to the two thousand fourteen models. No,

640
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't believe, so, I don't believe. So all right, sir,

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Speaker 1: you come by to your shop with us and have

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Speaker 1: you look at it. Well, he could call me. I. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm about two and a half weeks out

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Speaker 1: right now. But like I said, I would tell you

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Speaker 1: to take it to Toyota and stay with that, only

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Speaker 1: because they started on it, and um, you know it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a wasted motion in dollars to try, and

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Speaker 1: you know it's it's you're better off staying with them,

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Speaker 1: especially if they're involved in this. They started the job,

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Speaker 1: now they should finish now, they should finish it. All right,

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Speaker 1: I'm here if you need me. Richard nine zero, we're

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Speaker 1: back right after this welcome back. We're any of the

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Speaker 1: car doctor kind of winding things down this hour. It's

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Speaker 1: been a busy hour. We've talked to a bunch of people,

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Speaker 1: talked to both ends of the country, talked to a

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Speaker 1: couple of people in between, and I got the squeeze

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Speaker 1: in a conversation with the folks at three m. So

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Speaker 1: I'm very grateful to have been here. Um, But anyway,

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Speaker 1: I just want to touch on one last thing, Uh,

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Speaker 1: the Triple A study third of US owners. I was

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Speaker 1: I was continuing to read this motorists pay later for

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Speaker 1: putting on vehicle maintenance. Now, the article continues as warned,

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Speaker 1: down parts increase the likelihood of costly roadside breakdowns. Again,

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Speaker 1: I go back to the younger audience. Do the kids today,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought about breaking down. I was well,

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Speaker 1: and I was faced with it. Maybe that's the lesson

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Speaker 1: that everybody has to learn, young and old, that they've

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Speaker 1: got to break down on the side of the road.

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Speaker 1: But then what do they do? It's it's not that simple.

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Speaker 1: And I think one of the things I'd like to

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Speaker 1: try and address, and I'm not sure how to do this,

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Speaker 1: but that that that eternal conversation of is your mechanic

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Speaker 1: ripping you off? And and how do you know? And

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Speaker 1: how do you know if you're being charged fairly? And

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Speaker 1: how do you know if what they say you need

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Speaker 1: you really need? You know, I live in a bubble,

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Speaker 1: I admit it. I live in a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a bubble that that, you know. I work in a

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Speaker 1: repair shop that and people walk in and they're amazed.

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Speaker 1: The floors are cleaning, the places got air conditioning, we've

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Speaker 1: got tools, we've got lights, we've got lifts, And you

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Speaker 1: say to yourself, well, isn't that common, And I it's not. Evidently. Evidently,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not the world that exists out there

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Speaker 1: in a lot of places, and it's it's going to change.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna have to change. I think cars are getting

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Speaker 1: to the point that people will start to use them

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Speaker 1: only as they need them. Hence Uber. I was reading

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Speaker 1: an article from one of our listeners in Chicago that wrote,

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Speaker 1: he's got a pizza delivery service this but that the

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Speaker 1: article is about they've got a pizza delivery service in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco and when times are busy, they're using Uber

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Speaker 1: Rush to deliver pizzas on a contracted basis. So you

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Speaker 1: can see how automobiles are changing in the way in

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Speaker 1: the approach can our use of transportation? And how will

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Speaker 1: that change the way young people think? And how will

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Speaker 1: that change how they roach it and continue to drive

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Speaker 1: and operate vehicles. And that's what I want to get to.

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Speaker 1: I want to get to that younger audience. Until then,

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Speaker 1: I'm on an Indian the car doctor. Good mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 1: They're priceless. See it