WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: Black Knight Satellite 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:16.960 Thinking Sideways. I'm not comte stories of things. We simply 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:24.079 don't know the answer to space, the Final Frontier. We're 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:40.800 thinking sideways the podcast. Okay, wow, best intro ever if 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:47.800 anybody's good future. I am Steve as always, I am 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:53.960 joined by my co host, the orchestro Clap Joe, And 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.880 as we did in our lovely musical intro, we are 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:02.320 the t the host of Thinking Sideways. This is getting 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:06.080 all out of control really fast. Yeah, no structure, we 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.600 need structures. We do. But just if you don't know 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.960 we solved mysteries. We tend to try to solve mysteries. 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.920 Show lies about us solving mysteries. He does occasionally. Well, 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:21.080 we have another mystery this week that we're going to 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.880 talk about, which is the Black Knights satellite. This story 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:31.840 got suggested to us a long time ago, and I 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:36.440 really apologize to whoever was the first person to suggest 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.360 it to us, because I sort of lost your email 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:43.000 and didn't write it down and I don't have your name. Yeah, 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.600 Benjamin Uh suggested it a couple of months ago. I 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.440 have that written down, so he gets the prize. But 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:54.000 to whoever the other person was, thank you. Maybe maybe 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.000 it was Benjamin. I know this. We've this one's been 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.520 in the hopper for all long time. We're trying to 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.080 get better about writing that stuff down. Yeah, we've been 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.800 doing pretty good, but in the beginning we're pretty sloppy. Yeah, 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:11.400 but let's talk about the Black Knights satellite. This. I'm 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:13.960 just gonna preface this right now, which this is one 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.639 of those stories that has been told and rehashed and 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.840 re told so many times that it is so hard 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:26.880 to get to the roots story that I'm just gonna give. Uh, 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:30.960 I'm just gonna tell kind of the commingled version, which 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.800 is what you see on a lot of the places 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:35.839 that you read about it. Come to think of it, 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.480 that's kind of seems to be the version of the 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.560 story that we tell a lot version, Yeah, the ones 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.680 that are all just full of all kinds of fun stuff. 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:48.520 Ye An, yep. So we're we're gonna we're just gonna 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.760 go with every little bit that is on here to 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.960 tell this story today. According to the lore, the Black 0:02:56.000 --> 0:03:01.000 Knights satellite was first discovered by none other Nicola Tesla. 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.560 That doesn't surprise me, yep, the one of the Granddaddy's 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:09.600 a science The Granddaddy is he the granddaddy. Ink. Okay, 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.080 I think they were. There's older granddaddies. But Tesla did 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:17.880 some amazing He did some amazing stuff. The granddaddy. I'm 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:24.720 not even gonna go there. In eighteen nine nine, Tesla 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:30.320 was using a high voltage radio receiver is what you 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.919 would be using, uh, And it was a two hundred 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.400 foot tower he was I think he was in Colorado. 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.440 He'd gotten funding by one of his major backers to 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:44.760 build this thing. But he was picking up unusual transmissions, 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:50.280 which he believed had to be intelligent because they were 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:56.200 very consistent, they were repeating patterns, and he evidently thought 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.480 that they were likely to be extraterrestrial. I know that 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.760 he thought that they were intelligent, but I've also seen 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.560 that it was said that he believed they were extraterrestrials. 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.240 It was coming from space. It was coming from space. 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:15.640 May actually later when we moved in this story, is 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.280 gonna do this a bunch. We're gonna do a bunch 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.800 of skips in time. We're gonna skip forward to the 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:26.360 nine twenties. Unusual transmissions began being picked up by Ham 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:32.120 radio operators, and they were they were obviously earthly in origin. 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.200 Because they were transmissions coming from Earth, but they were 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:38.520 weird and they shouldn't have been picked up where and 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:43.240 when they were picked up. These are something that at 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.080 the time no one understood and today we don't really 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.680 know what they are or what causes them. But there 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:52.919 what are referred to as l d s, which stands 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:58.000 for long delay echoes, and people have attributed this to 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.839 the Black Night satellite. We talked about thought a little 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:05.160 bit during Lost Boil Area skipping skipping, it's it's it's 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:09.880 a similar phenomena to skipping. Yeah, so yeah, essentially that's 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.240 what they're saying, then, is that the Black Knight satellite 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.080 picked up these transmissions and then bounced them back to 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.320 didn't just echo off the off the satellite, but it 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:24.200 actually absorber it recorded it, retransmitted back down at different 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:28.200 intervals and a delay. Yes, the delay was not consistent, 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.920 though I understand correct. It is not a consistent delay 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.120 can anywhere. I think it's anywhere from six to thirty 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.839 to thirty seconds to sometimes up to a minute or so. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.320 It's it's really inconsistent. It's really weird, that a little weird. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:47.640 We're gonna move forward again to nine to Nino, and 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:52.200 according to the story, the US government released information that 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:56.680 they had detected two satellites that we're gonna polar orbit. First, 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.400 you need to understand that we, and by we I 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:04.640 mean the human race, not us specifically Team Side yes, 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.840 not Team Sideways, but the actual human race had not 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:13.279 yet developed a capability to put a satellite into orbit. 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:17.520 That wouldn't happen until October four, nine seven, when sput 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.400 Nick was put into orbit, So we hadn't launched a 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.279 satellite at all. I guess we should clarify also that 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.880 satellite can mean anything that's orbiting, right. It doesn't necessarily 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:31.320 mean that it's of the satellite. Yes, anything that is 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:35.279 intentionally orbiting the Earth, So it doesn't necessarily mean it 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:39.760 was mechanical or anything like that. Very true. The other 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.400 thing to keep in mind is that this, well, actually 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.800 it's it says that there were two satellites at the 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:48.680 time in a polar orbit. And I want to talk 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.040 about a polar orbit real quick so that people know 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:55.200 what this is, because this is important. Most satellites are 0:06:55.360 --> 0:07:00.320 in an equatorial or semi equatorial orbit. That means they're 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:04.320 going around the equator, and most people do satellites even 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:08.479 today that way because it's easier because when a rocket 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:13.120 is launched, you use the the inertia of the Earth 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:17.280 to propel it in that direction. Not the inertia, but 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:21.280 the speed. The rotation. Rotation is what I was after. 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.640 But it helps with it. Yeah, so it gets it going. Yeah, 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.640 that's why most most of them are west to east. 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.320 There's only a few of the east to west. But 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.240 but the thing is is going in the opposite direction, 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.040 or even more so, going in a polar orbit is 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:40.080 hard because you kind of negate all of that speed 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.280 that you've picked up on launch and then get something 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.880 to rotate over each of the poles. So instead of 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.160 going around the equator, we're rotated at ninety degrees. Now 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.960 you're going over both the poles of going east west 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.880 or west east, they're going north, south or southa correctly. 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:57.560 And that's a very good way to put it. And 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.600 that's what you do for that is you just launched 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:03.080 from a more northerly um launch point. That also helps 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:07.640 a lot. But yeah, it's not tremendously unusual. A lot 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.360 of survey and spice satellites have polar orbits because that's 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.040 a great way to cover the entire surface of the 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.520 plane didn't very short at the time. That's the upside 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:18.240 of the polar orbit is you're circling around the poles 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.680 while the Earth is circling around underneath you, so you 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:25.440 can take images of the whole thing, right, Yeah, So yeah, 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.400 lots of lots of survey satellites and stuff like that 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:32.800 use use the polar that's that's yeah. I mean obviously, 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.600 our our earliest launches were just west to ease. Yeah. 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:39.160 And and the first the first satellite, and I use 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:44.680 that that satellite, what man made satellite? Yes, the first 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.319 man made sate, thank you, uh that we put into 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.520 a polar orbit of any kind didn't happen until nineteen sixty. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:56.480 And this report is from nineteen fifty four, so there's 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:01.319 some strange this there. The other thing is that, according 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:07.800 to these reports, that satellite was transmitting radio signals that 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.040 could be detected, but it couldn't be picked up the 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:15.800 satellites from both of them, yes, or at least one 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.560 of them. Again, this is where the story gets a 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:23.680 little fudgy. And I don't know, but signals are being sent, 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.040 they're being picked up. We don't know what they are, 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.880 and then the satellites just kind of disappear, or maybe 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:36.120 we lost track of them. I'm not positive, but there's 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.199 no more reporting on it at that time. I'm not 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.360 sure what our tracking abilities were back in those days, 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.920 because I mean, these days we have radars because obviously 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.880 we want to track all the satellites that are up there. 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.360 And yeah, at that time, I don't know how. I 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.480 don't even know how they picked them up. That's the 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:52.600 hard part is, I don't know how these things were 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:58.040 discovered because it can't find it in in the lore. Again, 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.760 I'm gonna use that phrase. All of the retellings and 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.760 the stuff that I've found and digging through, and I 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:07.400 can't find out how it was picked up, just that 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.439 it was. Yeah, so it makes you wonder. Yeah, we're 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:14.440 gonna skip ahead a couple of years to nine seven. Uh. 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:18.960 There are accounts that the Black Night satellite was photographed 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:26.960 following sput Nick two by a guy named Dr Caralis Coralis. 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.560 I'm not sure he's Venezuela. It happened in Venezuela, so 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.600 I'm assuming that it's it's a name that's of some 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:37.200 Spanish origin, But I'm terrible at pronunciations, as we all 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.559 know by now. So what I'm just gonna go with that. 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.280 Somehow the b KS managed to swing out of its 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.760 polar orbit and and and get behind Sputnik two. Yeah, yeah, 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:50.440 evidently who was shadowing sput Nick two. Yeah, and he 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:53.520 took he took this photo of it when he was 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.920 in he was in Caracas. But again, this is this 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:01.160 is another bit. It's so jumbled, it's so muddle. I 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.199 can't get good details on this that's good enough to retell. 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:05.640 So I'm just gonna kind of leave it at that 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:09.560 as it was. Photographs shadowing spot Nick two. And no, 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.000 no pho, no copies of the photograph exists anywhere I 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:16.080 take it. I can't find them. I haven't seen anything. Again, 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.120 We're gonna skip forward in time a couple of years 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:22.160 to nineteen sixty. At that time, the US and the 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:27.680 Russians had put successfully quite a few satellites into orbit. 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.120 But you got to remember those. Of course, now we're 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.920 in the Cold War, and just freaks the US military 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.920 out that, oh my god, there's satellites up there that 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.319 could be, you know, recording us or taking pictures of us. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:42.839 You gotta keep track of those signs you do. And 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.720 so they put up a net, a kind of a 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.280 radar net like what you were alluding to a little 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:52.160 bit earlier, Joe, so that they could track what came across. 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.360 There was one on the eastern coast, one on the 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.920 western coast, so they could track the things that came by. 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:03.199 On February eleven of nineteen sixty, newspapers announced that an 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:07.280 object was detected that was of unknown origins, and it 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:11.200 was described as a dark, tumbling object that was at 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:16.640 a seventy nine It's orbiting seventy nine degrees off the equator, 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:20.480 so close to a polar orbit. Um. Yeah, kind of, 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:24.000 it's not exactly a true polar orbit as it was 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:28.600 described from the nineteen fifty four reports, but I don't know. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.079 But it's also said that it had an eccentric or 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:36.360 erratic orbit, and it had an apogee of and this 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:38.400 is where I'm gonna need your help here, Joe. So 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:42.679 it says the apogee was one thousand, seven hundred twenty 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:47.679 eight kilometers. What is that going to be in miles? Okay? 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:53.120 And it had a parody of two hundred and sixteen kilometers, 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.120 So what is that? Well, what is that equate two 0:12:55.120 --> 0:13:00.200 in miles. So yeah, is the low point in a bit, 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:03.120 appig is the high point in the orbit. And the 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.200 easy way that I always think of it is a 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:10.040 way and appog will start with an A, which puts 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.559 Paragy closer. Does that make sense? The A and the P. 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.079 It's it's kind of a what's what's the word I'm 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:21.280 looking for, Tom, thank you? It's not, but it's kind 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.160 of It's the way I remembered is apps away that 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.400 puts Paragy close. It's it's not the best thing, but 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.360 that's how I keep it straight in my little headshare. Yeah, 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:36.280 but now that was nine sixty. Now that this particular orbit, 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.680 that this is what the U. S. Military reported, because 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.760 I thought they reported something with a little bit not 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.960 quite such an an erratic or that's again that's the 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:48.160 difficulty here is that with retellings, it's hard to pin 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:52.520 down exactly what was talked about or reported. I gotta 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:55.000 say with you, if if this isn't indeed an alien 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.040 object that they put in a put an orbit around 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.840 the planet, they did kind of a crappy job. Well, 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.640 the thing obviously that I don't like talking about because 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.760 I don't want to ever think about it. But you know, 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:10.439 the whole like lost cosmonaut thing is like nineteen fifty nine. 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:15.040 Uh so, I mean, you know, to have some weird 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:19.360 lost space stuff in accidental orbit of the Earth, isn't 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:25.640 you know? It's not it's not. Here's here's something. I mean, 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.920 we've been talking about the orbit and stuff being up there, 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.640 but here's something that's weird about the orbit. To me 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.640 is things that are in a stable orbit have to 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:39.040 be two d two miles or more above the Earth. 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:46.520 This thing was what was the miles, which to me 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.600 doesn't make sense because that seems like it would come 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:53.000 too close gravity and atmosphere would drag it and slow 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.800 it down and pull it back to Earth. So it's 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.160 a weird orbit to It would take a long time 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.320 for that orbit the k but it would eventually. Yeah. Yeah. 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:05.200 It's also said that, and this is talking about the 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:09.320 size of the satellite. It's said that the object was 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:15.600 calculated to be somewhere between ten to fifteen tons. How 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:20.160 I have no idea how that calculation was done, but 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.120 that is that is miles and miles heavier, much much 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.960 heavier than anything we had been able to put into 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:34.280 orbit at that time. For the aliens um and I 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.120 can't get a clear bead on the size of it. 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:38.960 And this is this is the part that really jumps 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.360 out to me. Based on that weight is I've seen 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.000 to a couple of places say that it was two 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.520 ft by three foot, which would put it at what 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:55.520 three six twelve cubic feet objects, Yeah, that's over a 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:59.520 ton a cubic foot. That's freaking heavy. I mean there 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:03.000 are some there are some metal cials that could be 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.800 like that, but it has to be totally solid. Yeah, 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.400 some some asteroids are, they're made of heavy metals. But 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.680 I don't think anything that down and yeah, I would 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:14.880 have to be right. And so then you run into 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:18.120 the problem of if it is broadcasting anything there can't 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:22.000 also be contained within the technology to broadcasts that we 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:24.240 know how to welfare that we know how to we 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.280 know how to make, but you know how to make everything, Steve. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.480 Have you seen Joe's spacement? He makes everything down I 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.360 got little elves down there, one of these things down there. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.120 But here's the thing about if it's only two by 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.360 three feet, then how did doctor what's his name of 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.720 karacoss wal to manage to snap a picture of it? 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.680 Let's let's see it. Well, I don't think Sputnik was 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.800 very big. I don't, Yeah, I guess, but Nick wasn't 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.880 all that big either. Sputnik two would have been the 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.280 same design, just the second one shot up into space. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:58.120 But I mean, the thing is is that what we're 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.960 gonna find with this story is we go through the 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:05.840 orbit changes, the weight changes, and the size changes. All 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.160 these things change as we go and and so that's 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.359 why I wanted to call it out. But if we 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:15.400 go back to this nineteen sixties stuff, the military, according 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:19.520 to the story, got really interested and they put a 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:23.840 lot of effort into researching this mystery satellite, and they 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:28.119 commissioned a special committee to gather information on it. And 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:33.000 those findings have never been released. Nobody's ever seen them. 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:40.760 After that's a good question. After tracking this, what they 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.560 are people are saying was the Black Night satellite in 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:49.840 nineteen sixty for three weeks it again disappeared. But during 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:55.200 that time, the strange transmissions, the l DSE, the long, 0:17:56.359 --> 0:18:01.200 the way echoes were being picked up. We're gonna move 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:06.720 just slightly forward. In nineteen sixty to September three, there 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:12.720 is a tracking camera at Grooming Aircraft Corporation. It was 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:17.119 at their Long Island factory or facility, and it said 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:20.119 that it took a photo of the Black Night satellite. 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.280 This is where things get a little kinky to me, 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.600 is people on the ground said they had been seeing 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:31.040 it for about two weeks. They could make it out. 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:38.320 It was red and glowing and moving east to west. Uh. 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.240 The speed was about it was described as being about 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:47.400 three times as normal. And it's shape like I talked 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.680 about a minute ago, it's it's changed again in this 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:54.479 It is now about nineteen ft long and ways thirty 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:59.320 two thousand pounds. I don't I guess my question on that, right, 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:04.040 is that just uh, how at what point do you 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:08.159 just say, well, obviously it's something different, you know. I 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.240 think at some point you say that doesn't sound anything 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.439 like this. I don't know what your basis for claiming 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:15.360 it's the Black Knight satellite is. It doesn't have any 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.800 of the any kind of basic that's never been reported 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.639 to glow red has been reported movies to west. Right. 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:23.879 So I think at some point on a lot of 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:26.119 stuff like this, and I know we are inclined to 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.000 do that and I want to do it again, is 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.359 just say, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. That's 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:35.840 clearly not I'm I'm on board. I'm trying to throw 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:40.280 that one out, absolutely because going from a near polar 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:45.000 orbit to suddenly being in an equatorial orbit that's amazing. 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.959 But not only that, but to have changed size and 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:53.159 color so drastically and speed. It's a transformer clearly not 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:59.080 actually that it's not an autobotic, it's a decepticon. Maybe 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.000 if you're moving three's it's a fast that must mean 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.080 that means also you're a lot lower in there, a 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.919 lot lower down, because that's why that's how you keep 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:07.719 from dropping into the gravity well of the planet is 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.080 to to speed up. The closer you get the more 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:13.040 the faster you have to go, and move farther out 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.920 you can go slower. So you know, this thing apparently 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:19.840 can move itself around pretty good. Maybe it's just something 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:23.439 totally different. Yeah, it could be. We're gonna go to 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.960 some more strange things that are attributed to the Black 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:30.240 Knight satellite. Uh, do either of you know who Gordon 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:35.440 Cooper is? Who is he Joe Mercury, Memricury ast or not? Yes, 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.840 he was, he was on Mercury nine for anybody who 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:44.280 doesn't know. The Mercury program was putting men in capsules 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.080 and shooting them into space, and they were circling the 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.960 globe and then splashing back down into the ocean to 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.320 figure out how to survive in space. By the way, 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.400 if you want to read a good book on the subject, 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.960 The Right Stuff by Tom Wolf. It's a great book. 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.200 I haven't I don't remember watching the movie as a kid, 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.160 but I never read the book. You gotta read the book. 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:05.800 The book. The book is much better, I can only 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.600 I wouldn't be shocked by that. But if you want 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:10.320 to know everything you wanted to know about the Mercury 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:14.640 program and then read this book, it's awesome, awesome, Okay, uh, well, 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:18.679 you know it's funny. Who was the first man in space? Um? 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.560 It was Alan Shepherd? Yeah, yeah, So one of the 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:28.359 things Cooper's first attempted launch, they scrubbed it. He was, 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:30.000 he was in the cockpit, he's ready to go, and 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.960 then they had described it for some technical reason. But 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.639 like every single launched NASA has attempted in the last 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:39.679 four years. Yeah, but who was it was? Shepherd? Shepherd? 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:43.080 Believe I think you're right. I can't remember, but uh yeah, 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:47.760 Cooper got into the cockpit and he found I a 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:52.719 plunger from Shepherd. That's because when he had gone up, 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:55.840 evidently there was an issue with the plumbing of his 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:59.000 toilet system, and so as a joke, he had given 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:01.640 him a plunger to take with him into space. But 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:03.639 that didn't actually end up going into space because that 0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.320 mission got scrubbed. But when Cooper finally did get into space, 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:10.120 he orbited the Earth twenty two times before he came 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:15.720 back down on trip fifteen around the globe. That's where 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:24.600 the strangeness comes in. Cooper reported a greenish UFO to NASA, 0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:29.560 and the people at the tracking station of NASA also 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:33.560 saw this on his readouts and displays. And it's it's 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:39.320 important to point out Cooper wasn't afraid to report UFOs. 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:43.560 He evidently reported a couple of UFO in sightings because 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:45.800 he was a test pilot and he would see things 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:47.560 and he would call it a UFO because he didn't 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:49.520 know what it was, and because it was by definition 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:53.359 and flying, it's not what we would consider today to 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:57.359 be a space aliene. Yeah no, but he he would 0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:00.800 report those things, so it's credible that he would have 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.120 reported this, and according to the story, it's corroborated by 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.760 this these I think it's up to a hundred people 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:10.840 that were in the NASA tracking station in Australia that 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:14.080 saw it on their screens. So, in other words, the 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:16.480 blacke Knights satellite and once again changed the store. But 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.040 now it's going west to east again. Oh, because it 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:23.600 was because of the Shepherd instance, well, because Cooper incident. Well, 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:25.840 I don't know that. I don't know, at least in 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:28.919 this writing. It doesn't necessarily mean that it was orbiting together. 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:32.640 It just means that he saw go past them him, right, Yeah, 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:37.080 that's that's entirely possible. It was still orbiting north south, 0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:40.560 but it had never been described as having this greenish 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:43.600 glow that he described what he had been that close 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:47.720 to it before. Yeah, was it coming towards him or 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:51.920 moving past him behind him? I don't know. Again, it's 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:53.639 one of those things where the accounting of this is 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:57.359 just so brief and it's just splashed and then that's it. 0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:00.040 You get you get the flash, but you don't in 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.840 any of the follow up details. Now, some of this 0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:06.000 stuff we will be going into in more detail in 0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:09.400 the theory section. So before anybody, you know, screaming at 0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.840 us what's going on, just be aware. We're gonna come 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:14.400 back to some of this stuff. But I just want 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:17.080 to We're gonna have to circle back to a couple 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:20.920 of times from Yeah. Another newspaper article that we have 0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:27.760 from nineteen nine said that the Apollo ten astronauts and 0:24:27.840 --> 0:24:34.479 those would be young Sernin and Stafford, were the first 0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:41.920 to actually fill a extraterrestrial beacon, which was called the Monolith. 0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:46.520 It's it's a small version of what you saw in 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.080 the movie or read about in the book two one 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:59.040 of Space Odyssey. Yeah, okay, sorry, yep, no, but yeah, 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.639 so it's it's from two thousand one. Like I said, 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:07.000 the Apollo ten crew evidently filmed it from all angles. 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:11.760 But I'm sorry I did. I did a quick Google search, um, 0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:15.359 and that footage doesn't exist on the internet somewhere I know, 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:21.240 or depending on your perspective, not surprisingly yeah, depending yep. 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:25.760