1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: People don't know where they're gonna go, and we don't 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: know where they're going to go. I hope the league 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: doesn't pick the draft like our board is said. Yeah, 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: if a cop sees me, there's no way I'm going 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: a hundred yards fly, he will bring me over and 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: not let me drive it. Welcome into the Lounge. Busy 7 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: week for the Lounge. Three podcast this week. Three podcasts 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: this week in addition to the two podcasts last week. 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: So this is jam packed. You know, everyone wants to 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: get the best coverage before the before the draft, and 11 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: we're trying to jam it all into a tight window here. 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: So we're giving you guys a little extra, does we care. 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: How's your job? I mean, you do the editing on this. 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: That's that's a lot, right. Uh, that's my loud laugh, 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: your loud laugh, your loud voice. Uh, it's about to 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: become a split duty. I think that's what's We're gonna 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: have to start picking up your weight, and which is 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: a lot of weight, by the way, You're gonna have 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: to start making up for that, and you're I'm gonna 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: teach you how to edit. It's carrying your weight, that's 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: to say now. But you gotta pick up your own 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: can pick myself up? That's impossible. You're gonna have to 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: figure it out. All right, Let's bring an email, all right, 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: So this is an email before we get started with 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Ortiz Todair, director of College Scouting. This email comes from 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: Crystalline in China. This is Crystalline, the Maryland girl in 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: China who wrote the Ravens thank you later last year 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: that you wrote an article about. All right, what about 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: thanks for the podcast giving me a taste of home 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: every time I listen. Now, the schedule came out last week, 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: and since I know the schedule is getting discussed, it 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: seems like so many people are already pointing to the 33 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: London home, then the home game against the Steelers, then 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: traveling to Oakland. That stretch of the schedule is a 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: really challenging time due to potential jet leg. I don't 36 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be a problem. The team definitely shouldn't 37 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: get themselves psyched out by that. Pro athletes needs so 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: much discipline to get where they are that the least 39 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: they can do is pushed through some jet leg. It's 40 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: all mental and if they're all in, they'll be fine. 41 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: Do you agree? With that, you just came back from 42 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: somewhere across the way, somewhere across the pond. Yes, so 43 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: to you. And I was sick for like ten days 44 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: after I got back with a fever. So I'm actually 45 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: not really buying with crystalin saying I think the jet 46 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: lest real deal. She goes back and forth from the 47 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: States of China, so she's more of an expert than us. 48 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: I also, I did not really experience much like I 49 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: feel like, you get tired, you know, like the full 50 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 1: day of travel makes you really tired, so then you 51 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: get back, you crash. I usually get back to the 52 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: States that you know, late at night or whatever, because 53 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: you take that, then you crash. You wake up normal time, 54 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: you're good to go. Yeah, I mean I didn't really 55 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: feel that tired, but I just got sick, and so 56 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: I attributed it to the international traveling. Yet, like I 57 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: often do get sick on the plane, I feel like 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: that's all that coughing that air. You don't get airflow. People. 59 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm just like, dude, guys, everybody wear a mask. People 60 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: like you with your kids on the plane crying keep 61 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: me up the entire time. My kid didn't cry one. Yeah, right, 62 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: he probably don't need to sleep away, keep much trying 63 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: the entire flaying you were the nightmare. The nightmare panned 64 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: out the ear plugs to everybody's sitting around us beforehand. 65 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: All right, anyway, Crystaline, thanks for the yes. So with 66 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: that said, let's get right into our interview and welcome 67 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: in Director of College Scouting Joe Ortiz. We are happy 68 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: to be joined by Director of College Scouting Joe Ortiz, 69 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: who says that I can't ask him any questions, but 70 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: I can forward my questions through you. Garrett. You have 71 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: to direct them to me. You black you're blacklisted? Yeah, 72 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: what happened? What did I deserve this? Yeah? You can. 73 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like the interpret I'm like, you know, 74 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: in the baseball in this the Japanese pictures, to go 75 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: through the interpret I'm trying to be as difficult as 76 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: possible as we get closer to the draft. All right, 77 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: you quite cantankers? Yeah? You like that boke? Yeah that 78 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: is a ward of the day or something. Seriously, Yeah, 79 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: I might have Reader's Digests when I was taking my 80 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: morning BM. We're real serious here in the last right, 81 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: said Joe, can you tell us right now, like what's 82 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: going through your mind with the draft? Are you like 83 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: looking at the final couple of days of tape just 84 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: to get a sense of like cross checking guys are like, 85 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: what is the process for you right now? Yeah, I'll 86 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: look at some guys that maybe I haven't I've only 87 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: been exposed to it maybe an All Star game, Senior 88 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: Bowl combine that we have on the front board. Towards 89 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: the bottom of seeing pretty much a lot of the 90 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, guys on our front board, there's a couple 91 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: of guys that made the ascent through workouts and and 92 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: postseason performances that I'll take a look at that. Like 93 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: I said, maybe I just was exposed with Senior Bowl. Um, 94 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: But a lot of the film work that we're doing 95 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: now are cross checks with our scouts looking at a 96 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: cluster of guys trying to get them in the right order. Um. 97 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: And then myself, I'll look at guys I've already seen, 98 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: but just kind of refresh my memory on and make 99 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: sure I like the order that they're in in their position, 100 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: you know, and and stacked against maybe some other guys 101 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: in different positions on the board. Is this where things 102 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: getting the most like kind of fighty because like you 103 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: have one guy that's you know, saying number sixteen on 104 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: your board, another guys at fifteen, and it's like you really, 105 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: this is the final board. The guys finally step up 106 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: and be like, no, I'm gonna blah blah say that. 107 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: You know, I mean guys. You know, guys will have 108 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: opinions and they'll speak their mind, and coaches, scouts, Ozzie, Eric, 109 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: you know, everyone will. Everyone will obviously cast their vote 110 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: in a situation like that fifteen verse sixteen. Um, and 111 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: some guys may be passionate as to why they have 112 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: it that way, but a lot of the dialogue is 113 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: already taking place, a lot of discussions, all the work 114 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: has been done. So you may give one last reason 115 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: why that you see this guy above the other guy. 116 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: But you know, um, for the most part, it's not 117 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: too you know, contentious going forward from this point on. 118 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: What about on draft weekends, like when you're actually in 119 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: the room, everyone has like these kind of I feel 120 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: like the movie, you know, Draft A Like it's like 121 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: perception of the war room at movie. Yeah. I didn't 122 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: like that movie either, but it was it was one 123 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: very realistic Yeah you want to call them any other 124 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: GMS call him pancake pancake eating effort. I don't I 125 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: don't know if that's ever happened to my knowledge, but yeah, 126 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's some tension, you know. I think 127 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: they've really built up the tension of the draft and 128 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: they made something so drastic trading back and then trading 129 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: back up. I forget what the details were of it, 130 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: but he was all over the place in terms of 131 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: moving right. Um, I think there's some tension, you know, 132 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: leading up to you have a cluster of guys you 133 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: hope get to you, you know, and no matter where 134 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: you are. If you're six, you hope these four guys 135 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: get to If you're sixteen, you hope these eight guys 136 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: get to you. If you're twenty six, you hope these 137 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: sixteen guys. You never have enough, You always have enough 138 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: to pick from, but you have that like target, like, well, 139 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: we'd would be great if one of these guys fell 140 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: to us. And um, so as they go, you get 141 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: a little bit all right, he's gone, he's gone. But 142 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: so as that list windles down, you start getting a 143 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: little bit nervous. But you know, you always know who 144 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: the next guy is, and you're always prepared to pick. 145 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: What's one time where you feel like you had the 146 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: the emotional reaction the most where it was like, wow, 147 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: that guy fell to us at that spot. I can't 148 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: believe that guy made it to us. Who was that pick? Um? 149 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: You know, i'd say recently, Um, in recent draft c J. 150 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: You know, we had really good grades on CJ across 151 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: the board, and then't you know, we saw a lot 152 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: of scenarios where he would go um, and we're fired 153 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: up when he got to us, you know, certainly him um. 154 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: You know, he's been the one that sticks out to 155 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: me like this is a really talented player and if 156 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: he were in this year's draft, people probably talking about 157 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: him with the top ten player again. And so he 158 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: made it to us, I think we're picking six. Yeah, 159 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: so you know that that was pretty like oh my gosh, 160 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: she's gonna get here, you know. And then it's just like, okay, 161 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: what's you know. I think Pittsburgh took Shazer right before us, 162 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: and he's like, Okay, what are they gonna do it? Please? 163 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: Don't you know? And we'd like both guys, you know, so, 164 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: but you know, I think and then Dallas had Martin 165 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: and uh so it was yeah, you know, like, okay, 166 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: which ones you know are they We're gonna get one 167 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: of these story and we're excited. But you know, like 168 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: I think in my mind, you know, I was fired 169 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: up to CJ. You know, for you guys, as a 170 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: personnel team in a scotting department, do you get more 171 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: excited about hitting out of c. J. Mosley when he's 172 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: a seventeen or hitting out of Rice Stanley because he's six? 173 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: Or do you guys get fired up when you find 174 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: Brandan Williams in the third round from a school that 175 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: nobody ever heard of, you find Rick Wagner in the 176 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: fifth round? Like what, you get more excited? I think 177 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: the scouts. I think the nature of the human nature 178 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: of a scout is to be more fired up about 179 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: the guy that you get late that turns into a star. 180 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: Brandon Williams, Tricky Wagner. You know you checked those guys, 181 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: are you know they all came from the same draft, 182 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, not like it's it's funny, because like that 183 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: was really if you look at the and John Simon 184 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: even you know, and John John ran into a crowded 185 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: room here in Baltimore, you know, and it was tough 186 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: you know, but we we took a good player when 187 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: we took him. Um, and those four guys. You know, 188 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a draft class that put 189 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: out more free agent dollars and that that group of 190 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: guys right there. It's it's interesting because everyone, you know, 191 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: people look at that draft and they say Elm and Brown, absolutely, 192 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: but then you look at the depth of that class 193 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: and was one of the you know, it was probably 194 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: one of the better ones better. I mean, four four 195 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: starters were drafted out of that draft class, and Matt 196 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: started obviously the first two years. But from my perspective, 197 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: I sit there and say, God, what if you know, 198 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: if only you know Matt achieved and Arthur achieved the 199 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: status that we thought they could have been, and you 200 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: learn from your mistakes and it stinks, you know, you 201 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: don't want to have those misses or you know, guys 202 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: that don't perform as well as they're taken. But um, 203 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: you're proud as can be when you look at that 204 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: the rest of that class and even Ryan Jensen, who's 205 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: who's very quality backup force and I think it started 206 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: nine games for us throughout his career and been and 207 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: I think he may have. I didn't play in the 208 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: playoff game, I don't think, but he he and he 209 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: started some key games for him, you know, and and 210 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: he's been a contributor. And so you're you're proud of 211 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: the group, you know, and then you you know, when 212 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: you miss on a guy, how you get a little disappointed, 213 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: you know. But C. J. Mosley, I expect him to 214 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: be great, you know, I expect him to be great. 215 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: We think Brandon's going to be great when we take him. 216 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: We think Ricky Whitener has got a chance to develop 217 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: into a starter when we take him. This past class, 218 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: I think you saw a lot of production from our 219 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: fourth and fifth round and selections, and we expected that 220 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: from We thought they all could do it, and they 221 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: kind of did it a little did it quick, you know, 222 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: so you're really excited about that. You know, he should 223 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: step in and be our starting left half. You know, 224 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: um Dixon, he's gonna have to fight for the time. 225 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: You know. So those guys they get in there in 226 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: the fourth rounds, they get in there and start playing 227 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: for us, and it's like, all right, we got one here. 228 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: You know that you get more excited I think by that. 229 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: And you talk about like late round picks. I mean, 230 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: then there's the undrafted guys. Can you talk about just 231 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: the amount of work that you guys put into the 232 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: undrafted class. Yeah, we've I'll tell you what. It's been 233 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: a system that's evolved over the years. Um. You know, 234 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: back in the day, I coordinated it because I was 235 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: out working guys out like Bart Scott, Um. You know, 236 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: Randy Hymes, who I think we got in the same class. 237 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: Randy started a couple of games for us with wide out, 238 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: big white out, great ball skill. I just went fast. 239 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: But you know, you know he made our teams on 240 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: our team, I think for three years and before we 241 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: went on to Jacksonville. UM. But then we'd identify the 242 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: guys and we'd recruit them, you know, and we still 243 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: do that, but with just the stuff the resources were used, 244 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: and now to really and we're really you know, trying 245 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: to narrow that list down, be specific about the guys, 246 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: really target the guys that we think can make it. Obviously, 247 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: it's hard to make a team as an undrafted rookie. 248 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: But the great thing about our places, they get chances, 249 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: and you know, some places they come in their draft 250 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: picks are gonna make the team. And they'll be lucky 251 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: to have an undrafted guy to make it here. They 252 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: all get a shot and and uh and I love 253 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: that about John and his staff. They really they get 254 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: the same amount of reps as a draft pick and 255 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: there and if they if they do what they're capable 256 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: of doing to earn their way on the team, they're 257 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: gonna get more reps. And and there's no bias towards 258 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: pick Verson, non pick well. And there's a track record 259 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: guys making it, so you can easily pitch that to 260 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: all those guys, especially inside linebacker. I feel like you 261 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: go down that list and you're like any inside linebacker 262 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: you want to make the team. Here you go not 263 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: only make the team, I mean v from Bart Yeah, 264 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: these McClellan, I mean, these guys have all been paid 265 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: second deals. Zach you know, would have been shame exactly exactly, Yeah, 266 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: he would have gotten a nice, nice deal. And I 267 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: mean the guy's second team All Pro. So it's we've 268 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: had a nice running inside backers and so we're doing 269 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: the right things in terms of identifying that position. Certainly, 270 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: um finding the guys and I think this year, you 271 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: know what we're doing. Mark has Cevito and and Andrew 272 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: Raphael who kind of headed up You know, Mark has 273 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: done a phenomenal job of really line and that thing 274 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: up for us over the past couple of years. And 275 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: I I just I'm excited about because I think will 276 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: be even better going forward. So one of the things 277 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: that we always like to do with you, this is 278 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: a little running game we've done over the past couple 279 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: of years. You know, every player you know in the 280 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: entire country, that's your role. You know, all these guys 281 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: you know this game here, we know. I love this game. 282 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: I'm so tired. Right, you might have to give me 283 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: this jersey number of the school and all I'm just 284 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna give you a name and a position 285 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: and you have to tell me a school. Okay, but remember, 286 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: all right, I'll do my best, um, and remember if 287 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: I get it wrong, we have to cut it out. Yeah, alright, 288 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 1: Guard Eric al Still he is from coastal Carolina, Is 289 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: that right? It's one of those uh cold, I'm not 290 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: cold from one of those Carolina school told him. I 291 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: watched him at the East West South Carolina, South Carolina. 292 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: It's not coastal, it's um because coastal coastals in South Carolina. 293 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: But it's not that this place has got great food. 294 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: It's not Charleston, Charleston, Charleston. All right. Second one here, 295 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: defensive tackle Grover Stewart, Alby State. Right, all right, this 296 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: is the toughest test here. Grover was at the NFLP. 297 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: I didn't go out there, but he was in the game. 298 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: He's just a big man. He's huge. Like, yeah, he's 299 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: a huge man. Like when you're watching the NFLP A game, 300 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: watching the practice. He's a monster of a man, you know. 301 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: And and uh and and allstell was. I watched the NFLP. 302 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: I saw him. Just sometimes those directional schools, I get 303 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: screwed up to the listener out there. These guys I 304 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: found them by going to like CBSS prospect rankings, and 305 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: they're all either given a seventh round or like priority 306 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: free agent grades. So these guys are the bottom of 307 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: the lip pile. Guys. All right, here's the toughest one. 308 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: You're ready. The last one long snapper Anthony Kukwa. Ah. 309 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: He's from a school in Ohio. Um god, oh, we 310 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: had it. We we had guys there last year too. 311 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: It's I think it's northern. The thing is close to Cleveland. 312 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of the school, though, I'll 313 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: come back to him if let' see, if it pops 314 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: into my head. Don't give me the answer answer, don't 315 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: not yet. Let me let me think about that all right. 316 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: While you're thinking about that, you gotta tell the story, 317 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: the running into the bird story, you're scouting story, oh 318 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: with the turkey bozzard. Yeah, so we're keep the language clean, 319 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: but it wasn't clean when it happened. Um So, this 320 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: is when Johnny Manziel and Mike Evans were working out 321 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: at Texas A and M. And I could make this 322 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: story really long. My wife would tell you, a guy, 323 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: why I just asked the question, you're gonna be here 324 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: five minutes. But um so, I fly into Dallas, which 325 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: is not near A and M. It's three and a 326 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: half hours away. But it was either Houston. I couldn't 327 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: get a good flight in I was getting I was 328 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: leaving here late. So I fly into Dallas, get in 329 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: it probably eleven o'clock, and I drive down to Waco, 330 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: and um, I have bad luck in Waco. Stayed I've gone, 331 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: I've stayed the same hotel courtyard, and I've walked out 332 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: of there and got a flat tire, Like walked out 333 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: to my car with a flat tire. So this time 334 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm scheduled to stay. I have a reservation at the 335 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: Hilton Garden or the Hilton Hotel in Waco, and I 336 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: get there and I sorry, sorry, we've sold out. And 337 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: so I'm like, it's it's like one o'clock and then 338 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: like and I got to be at A and M 339 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: at eight o'clock in the next morning. I'm like, what 340 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: do you mean you've sold out And they're like, well, 341 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's it was a mistake. And I said, 342 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: but we we got your rum over the courtyard. It's 343 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: on us. I'm like, God, damn the courtyard. I have 344 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: bad luck there. So I go to the courtyard, I 345 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: spend the night and little as I know, the curse 346 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: was on. So I get up early. I'm driving and 347 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Megan and move off on coaching and 348 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking to her on the phone. She's going over 349 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: some of the guys that coaches looked at. And as 350 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm driving, it's a two it's a four lane road, 351 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: so I got two lanes on my side and it's 352 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: seventy miles an hour down there. It's Texas Highway, you know, 353 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: broad back road from Baylor to to A and M. 354 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: And on the side of the road, I see three 355 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: turkey vultures or turkey buzzers, and I'm like, and I 356 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: see them they're eating something. And I'm in the right lane, 357 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: so I move over to the middle. So I'm splitting 358 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: two lanes. There's no other cars on clear steer clear 359 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: and sure enough. And then I get about, I don't know, 360 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: maybe thirty yards away. They send me and they decided 361 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: to take off, and the smart one went right and 362 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: the two dumb ones went left. That's definitely making his 363 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: buddy go uft. I'm I'm talking to Megan, and I'm like, 364 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: oh my god. And I'm in the fortance floor. It 365 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: was white, you know, and all of a sudden, like 366 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like what are these birds doing? And I'm 367 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: off the gas and I think maybe I had the break, 368 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: but it happened so fast. They were flying low and across. 369 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm like what, And I hit the brake and I 370 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: closed my eyes and I braced like hell on that 371 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: steering wheel. I'm holding it tight and bam, it just 372 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: smashes the wind right at my face, and I got 373 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: my eyes closed now and I'm flinching, and all of 374 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: a sudden, I feel the bird on my arm. No, 375 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: but in my mind, my mind is telling me, oh 376 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: my god, this bird wants because my eyes are closed. 377 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: What happened was, you know, the light the center of 378 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: light console and the sunglassholder. It literally hit like right 379 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: at the top of the windshield, right at eye level. 380 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: And the bird was so big it literally then in 381 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: the roofline and it knocked the thing out and it 382 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: fell down by its wire that's got it hit my arm, 383 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: and so I opened my eyes and there's glass dust 384 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: everywhere because glass wind shields, aren't they splinter I mean 385 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: they like they fractured, they don't break, so speak and 386 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: there's glass dust everywhere, and I'm pulling back from the student. 387 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: We're looking for this bird between my legs, and the 388 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: whole time I'm like, holy, Holy Holy, and Megan's like 389 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: Megan still in phone. The whole time, She's like, Joe, Joe, 390 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: are you okay. I'm like oh, and She's like, say 391 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: something besides that. I'm like, I just hit a burn. 392 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: It's a big shoes like some type of bustard. So 393 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: I pull over and I call Ian, who's I'm meeting 394 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: at the Protott and Cunningham who lives in Dallas, and 395 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: he's there and like for and at the Protet they 396 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: have like some guys that didn't work out the first 397 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: time time. They're going at eight thirty and then man'zelle 398 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: show starts at ten thirty. So I call in and 399 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, listen, man, I just hit a buzzard 400 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: and I'm forty miles out. I'm gonna try like heck 401 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: to get there freight thirty, but I gotta get excuse me, 402 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: I gotta get this car switched out. So I'm gonna 403 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: call it Avison to see if there's something at the airport. 404 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: He's like, it's a band. I'm like, oh, it's awful. 405 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: So he's like I said, if a cop sees me, 406 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: there's no way I'm going a hundred yards further off. 407 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: A cop sees me, he will pull me over and 408 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: not let me drive this. So I drive forty miles 409 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: like Ace Venture, except except the differences. Instead of having 410 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: my head out the window, I have my I'm leading 411 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: to the right on the center console and I swear 412 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: to God, my right side of my rib cage was 413 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: so because I had to lean like all the way over, 414 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: so I'm drying. So I get I get the avis 415 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: and they were like the three employees that were working. 416 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: They come out. They couldn't wait to see the car 417 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: because they had heard the story from the people who 418 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: called him, and they were so fired up there and 419 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: they you know, I took pictures and you could see 420 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: feathers stuck in the way. Well, I mean, there's no 421 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: way the birds survived. There's no way. Yeah. I looked 422 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: at you know, as I was coasting to a stop, 423 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: I could see him rolling, you know, behind me in 424 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: the rear view mirror. So one of them they got 425 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: in the way, but one definitely. Then I got away. 426 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: My friend didn't make it exactly dumber bus and you 427 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: probably circle back and eat your buddy. It was alright. 428 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: So to follow that up, you know, but I do 429 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: we do want to get a little football with you 430 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: before we ask you about this year's rock. I'm curious 431 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: would you share with us who the best player in 432 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: your history of scouting that you've ever had graded? Probably 433 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. Yeah, I think it's Andrew Lucky. I'd have 434 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: to go back and look at my grades, but I'm 435 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: pretty sure he's my highest guy ever. Yeah, he was 436 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: the highest Raven you ever graded, highest raven. I have 437 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: to go back and look at that too. Um, you 438 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: know it's hard great guys. I didn't like our top picks. 439 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: I mean, Ronnie's up there, you know, for us to 440 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: be picking that high. C J. Was one of my 441 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 1: higher graded guys, but we're rare. It's rare. I mean, 442 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: in the years I've been here, it's rare for us 443 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: to be picking that high and uh, to get a 444 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: chance to get one of my highest rated guys. So 445 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: I'd say probably I was drafted before I got here. Um, 446 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, my first year, I wasn't really doing guys 447 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: like mc allister and I was just running around, like 448 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, trying to keep my head attached. Um, Sugs, 449 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: do you I I didn't do so because that you're 450 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: when I talk about recruiting. I was out boxing guys, 451 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: so I didn't get a chance to look at all 452 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: the top guys. You know that we figure out who 453 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: we like, so you know, so I didn't get a 454 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: chance to actually put a grade on Sug. So I 455 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: would have to say it was probably uh c J 456 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: and Ronnie are probably the two highest rated guys I've 457 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: ever graded. So when you're sitting a sixteen Northern no keeps, 458 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: I like that you're still thinking about it. I'm an 459 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: Ohio guy, so I'm thinking of the Northern Ohio schools 460 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: because I didn't look at this small school. I mean, 461 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: I've never heard of this school. Some of the team 462 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: know you're thinking, Tiff, Okay, how high of the player 463 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: do you expect to get you like the like the 464 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: guy on your board. Yeah, I would say probably you 465 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: hope for one of our top ten top ten ranked players. 466 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: Do you hope for? You know, there's I mean when 467 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: we were when we picked that raid at twenty four, 468 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: I think we've got maybe our rated player. May in 469 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: that year, we may have some guys out of the mix, 470 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, but maybe it was our player, but he 471 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: was like the kind of the last guy we thought 472 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: that would be there, right right, So um, yeah, I 473 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: would say probably top ten okay, but not you know, 474 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: maybe the top twelve. You know. Can you talk a 475 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: little bit about wide receivers. I mean that's something that 476 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: fans love to talk about, and with our draft history, 477 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,719 Speaker 1: you know, there there haven't been a ton of hits there. Um. 478 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: Can you talk about the difficulty of drafting wide receivers 479 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: and what makes them in particular kind of tricky? Yeah, um, 480 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: well some some receivers are easy, you know, and where 481 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: we've been picking, we haven't had the chance to Yeah 482 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: a j there, They're kind of pretty easy to do. Um. 483 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'd say part of the sometimes receivers go 484 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: somewhere and they have success because of the system they're 485 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: in and maybe wouldn't be as good here, um, just 486 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: to you know, because the system doesn't you know, all 487 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: out for them to be as productive just the way 488 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: it is. I mean those New England guys, I mean 489 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: their system, you know, they operate great. Would they be 490 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: as productive in Baltimore their offense we run, we don't 491 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: run the same offense. Um. I think sometimes the scheme 492 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: system has something to do with it. The other thing is, 493 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: you know, outside guys vers since I slots, you know 494 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 1: they slack eyes can be more productive if you use 495 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: them a lot, which we do use slot receivers certainly 496 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: more the whole lead does and than it used to. 497 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: But um, you know, it's just with receivers. You look 498 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: at guys. They come in all shapes and sizes, and 499 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: you find an undersized, quick guy that you like as 500 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: a slot candidate, maybe do some outside stuff. Um, you 501 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: got an outside vertical guy. But the hardest thing to 502 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: measure of receivers is they're gonna be productive or not 503 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: in college, you know, I mean some of those guys 504 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: may have ninety catches. You see a lot of production, 505 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: but you know when they get to the NFL game, 506 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: the game so much faster, and not just and I 507 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: don't just mean the players, I mean the way the players, 508 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: the way the way that schemes change, the way defenses adjust, 509 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: the way they disguise things. In college, you can't do 510 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: as much with those defensive players because honestly, not all 511 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: of them are smart as pro players. You know they're 512 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: not just they're just not as experienced in verse and 513 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: the pros. You gotta tenure guy like wettal or however 514 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: may usually's been like he's direct in traffic and there 515 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: he's able to change ski sames up on people and 516 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: so um, I would say with with that, you know 517 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: that plays a big different, a big part in terms 518 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: of why some guys don't do as well as you 519 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: expect them to do because they just have a harder 520 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: time adjusting. I think that's probably one of the major 521 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: reasons why some of your more productive receivers maybe aren't 522 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: as productive when they get up to this level because 523 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: they just can't adjust. And that's a really hard thing 524 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: for scouts to measure because you can hear, Hey, the 525 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: guy's smart, all he knows three positions, he knows this 526 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: and that, But can he apply it even faster when 527 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: he gets up to this level? And it's you know, 528 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: I think that's why you see fourth rounders become productive 529 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: and first rounders flame out. Right, So what's the what 530 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: do you think is the best case scenario? You know, 531 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: if you have a perfect world over the next week, 532 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: what do you think it's best case scenario for us? Yeah? 533 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: For you, um and I'm not tally just in the 534 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: first round, but if you come out of the weekend 535 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: you say we nailed it, what would be that situation? Um? 536 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: I guess you know, we want to get some playmakers 537 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, you know, and but 538 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: we also need offensive line depth and help and you 539 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: know we need some you know, we need and obviously 540 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: you know we need some depth of the inside back 541 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: or you know, so we need pass rushers, we need corn. 542 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: You know, to me, you hope that the best player 543 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: on the board kind of maybe fits a big need. 544 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: That's maybe your best case scenario. But really, ultimately, to me, 545 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: if we come out of this weekend being able to 546 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: add depth throughout our team, add talent throughout our team. 547 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: And I don't mean just in the first, second or 548 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: third rounds. I mean, you know, through all seven rounds 549 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: of the draft. You know, I feel like if we 550 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: can fill some holes, fill some gaps, and then also 551 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: get some playmakers and guys that that we were really 552 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: excited about, which I mean, you're excited about everyone you 553 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: draft every year, But you hope, I guess I want 554 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: guys to fall to us. You know, that's the best 555 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: case to know. I hope the league doesn't pick the 556 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: draft like our board is said. I guess that's the 557 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: best case in right. All right, So four positions of 558 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: interest to the Ravens at least, you know, people look 559 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: at biggest needs and US corner, pass rusher, offensive line, 560 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: and wide receiver or four positions that people are talking 561 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: a lot of you here. Okay, So a pertinent question 562 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: for each at wide receiver. Do you feel like those 563 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: guys that you're saying are like easy picks because they're 564 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: so good or could they become available to us this 565 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: year at sixteen because there's so much defensive talent at 566 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: the top of this year's draft. Yeah, you know, I'd 567 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: say it's funny because when I look at at the 568 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: board and the talent in the entire draft, not just 569 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: offense defense, but yes, there's a lot of defensive talent. 570 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: For that part of your question, I think the draft 571 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: is gonna be volable, Like I don't. I think the 572 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: mocks this year people are going to have a hard 573 00:27:53,920 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: time because you see people taking quarterbacks in specific players 574 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: up there, but then you see some other marks where 575 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: they're going in the twenties and thirties. So people don't 576 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: know where they're gonna go, and we don't know where 577 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna go until draft. Could I see Trabisky being 578 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: a top five? Can I see Trabisky going number one? Yeah? 579 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: I could. Can I see the Deshaun Watson going high? Absolutely, 580 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: my homes going high. Those three guys are really good quarterbacks. 581 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: But I don't think there's a consensus on those three. 582 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: I think people are going to have different orders depending 583 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: on what organization you're at, So that makes it harder 584 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: for the people to predict who's gonna go where. Now, 585 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: if Cleveland takes Robisky one, then Watson could go number eight, 586 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, and my homes could go twelve, you know, 587 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: And and then your top three quarterbacks are all gone 588 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: before we pick, and we have a shot to get 589 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: one of our marquee players, I think, you know, um, 590 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: if not they if all three are gone, then obviously 591 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: if all three are still there, then they're in the 592 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: mix for the Ravens, you know, as best player available, 593 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: and we're going to sort them to sort of we'll 594 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: sort through those guys and and and the players left 595 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: on the board. But you just don't know. Um, you know, 596 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: do I think a really good wine I could get 597 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: to us. Absolutely? Um. I think a really good while 598 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: I could get to us in the second round too. 599 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: Right cornerback, there's kind of a you know a lot 600 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: of people were linking us to Sydney Jones, and uh, 601 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: he's a great player with his injury, you know, you 602 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: guys said, I know that he's not gonna fall that far, 603 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: but I'd be surprised of you as the sixteen pick. 604 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: I'll just say that, is it true? It seems that 605 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: has opened up with golf, where like there's like the 606 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: real high level guys like a Latin more right and 607 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: like Mali Cooker and he's a safety in a corner, 608 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: but really high level defensive backs. And then it seems 609 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: like there's really no consensus on who those guys are 610 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: behind him, and like there could be a gap in 611 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: the middle of the first round where the value isn't 612 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: there for a corner. Do you see that or do 613 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: you say no, there's there's corners that are going to 614 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: go through that first round. Yeah, I see it the ladder. 615 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of good corners in this drafts. 616 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lot of really good safeties 617 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: in this draft too. I think this is when you 618 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: look at the dB board, this is one of the 619 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: better boards I've seen in my years with the ravens 620 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: in turns, you know, and it's not just it's rare 621 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: for and it's it's not you always have corners on 622 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: the board because you just do um. But to have 623 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: the combination of corners and safeties stacked, you know, with 624 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of there's just a lot of good ones 625 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: in this year's draft. So you know, people can say 626 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: there's a gulf between Lattimore and the next set of corners, 627 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: and maybe you can say that, but they're good. The 628 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: other guys there may not be as good as Lattimore, 629 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, in people's minds, but I promise you they're good. 630 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: You know, there's a starter. Yeah, I mean, and you know, 631 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: and none of them come without flaws. They all have flaws, 632 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: and even Lattimore, you know, but they just they're all 633 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: really there's a lot of quality corners in this year's dry. Right, 634 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of quality safeties in this year's draft. 635 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: So um, so I expect I expect the first round 636 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: to be littered with those picks. Okay, pass rusher? Is it? 637 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: The perception seems to be that there are guys that 638 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: are gonna go throughout the first round. So is that 639 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: a position where you look at all, right, maybe we 640 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: have three guys that are clumped close to each other, 641 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: and if we if we want a pass rusher or whatever, 642 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: that's a position where you could trade down potentially and 643 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: still get a really good one. Yeah, you know, turn 644 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: turn to trade down. I think Eric and as you 645 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: do a great job of identifying the guys that they think, 646 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: all right, here's where we're at. And we have these 647 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: guys and now obviously I'm sure there'll be some pass 648 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: rushers mixed in that, but it's not just pass rushers. 649 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: Would be some offensive linemen, you know, across the board, 650 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: wide outs, everything, you know, lineback everything, they're all gonna 651 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: be in there, um and it's not necessary. Hey do 652 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: we trade back and think we can get one of 653 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: these pass rushers. It's do we trade back and think 654 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: we can get one of these players? You know, And 655 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: so we don't. We don't limit ourselves to just one position, like, hey, 656 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: we're willing to trade back because we think one of 657 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: these three pass rustles would be there. We never do that. 658 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: We trade back because we think one of these players 659 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: on the board will be there right right right. And lastly, 660 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: offensive line. You know, you look at our line and 661 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: it was a big priority to upgrade there, and the 662 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: loss of Rick Wagner obviously hurts. Now there's options there. 663 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: DeAndre Wesley, Stefan named by and and even Alex lewis 664 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: shifting over there. But you know, those guys have been 665 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: practice squad. You know, I our guys, and I don't 666 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: think Alex has played right tackle? Has he has? Yes? 667 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: And yeah in college he played when he was at UH. 668 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm not a hundred. I mean, I'm almost und sure. 669 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: He played right tackle when he was a Colorado and 670 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: then he went to Nebraska and became So anyway, there's 671 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: a hole there that you could draft somebody high. Right. 672 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: Do you feel like even Rick, who was an excellent pick, 673 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: didn't start as a rookie. Do you feel like if 674 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: you're going to find a starter at right tackle this 675 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: year to fill that immediate whole, that guy's got to 676 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: come in the first or second round. No, I do 677 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: not feel that way. And because honestly, Alex started left 678 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: tackle for I left hard force last year and he 679 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: also still left tackle three or four games left right 680 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: right as a rookie right, and he was he was 681 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. So no, I I but last 682 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: year's class was right, right, They were good, There's no doubt. 683 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: And um, but I really believe it was funny because 684 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: in the I think I was reading through the notes 685 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: from last year's UH pre draft press conference and someone said, 686 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: do you think you can get a left tackle later 687 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: in the draft or an offensive tackle you know he's 688 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 1: athletic enough. I'm like, well, yeah, yeah, I really think 689 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: you can and um, and I don't think that changes 690 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: any year. I mean again, this league's full of guys 691 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: that are fifth and sixth and free agents, seventh round 692 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: picks that end up starting, um, you know, left or 693 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: right tackle. It just becomes harder. Obviously there's got there's 694 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: fewer of those guys in the rounds. But that and 695 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: and Ricky. Ricky probably could have started his rookie year. 696 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: He was good enough, but we just it was a 697 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: situation where we really we had players, you know, and 698 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: he was. It was great for him because he able 699 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: to you know, learn a year as a backup and 700 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 1: play the extra tight end spot and our extrafensive linement. 701 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: So um, yeah, No, I definitely think you can get one. 702 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it has to be a first or 703 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: second rounder for it to be a starter. I really 704 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I think it goes for every position. It 705 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: just you gotta find the right guy, right all right? 706 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: Last chance? What school Ohio was not in the name? Right? No? Um, 707 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really mad when you're telling me this. Gosh, 708 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: I don't want you to give it to me. Hi, 709 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: You're it's Ohio. But it's like, uh, this is it's 710 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: not even like a there's no state or or university 711 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: in it. It's like a it's a place like college 712 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: Lake Erie. You got it here, That's what it was, 713 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: all right. So thanks to Joe as he exits the room. 714 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: And the biggest thing in listening to Joe and Eric 715 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 1: the Costa earlier in the week and also going back 716 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: and listening to milk Keyper and Daniel Jeremiah the Analyst, 717 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: no one knows, like no one knows what the Ravens 718 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: are gonna do, and this draft is so uncertain. That's 719 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: clear to me. Yeah for sure. And the other big 720 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: takeaway is we could draft the prospect from Lake ere 721 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: You know, I gave him credit and just I will 722 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: back up, I didn't look at that list either before 723 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: you pull those names, and Joe did not google that. 724 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: He did not. It just was on his mind. He 725 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: finally got it at the right time, so it took him. 726 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 1: It took him a little while, but he did finally 727 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: figure out the long snapper from Lake Erie College. I 728 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: love that game. I love that game, but it gets 729 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: harder every year you picked more ridiculous prospects. Next year, 730 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: just wait till next year. But thank you for listening, 731 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: and we will be back with another podcast in which 732 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: Gary and I will break down our full seven round 733 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: mock draft. These are just Ravens picks. We're not picking 734 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: every guy here, but the Ravens seven round mock draft. 735 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: I'm going to prick them all right, Garrett's not gonna 736 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: get any of them. But you have to tune in 737 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: tomorrow to hear that