WEBVTT - Mini Crush #73 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.640 Welcome to Movie Crush, a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:36.360 Hello everyone, and welcome to Mini Crush, Mini Crush, Mini Crush. 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:42.040 What are they where? No, that's like you're doing smelly 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:43.920 Cat now. I was kind of doing. Um, I was 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:48.599 sort of doing the Star Trek theme dot dot dot 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:53.040 dot all cats Medleyka, what a smelly cat? Is that? 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.840 From dirty Rock? From Friends? From Friends? I didn't know 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.480 they ripped off Star Trek. I guess our star track. 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.800 It's my face Avorite. How are you doing? I'm doing well, man, 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.720 I'm still kind of on the manda from my scooter injury. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.880 All right, let's hear scooter update. Scooter update. Uh, my 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:13.240 arm is about it's operating about seven percent capacity. I 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:14.800 can still, I can lift it up, I can wash 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.399 my hair, I can turn the key to the ignition 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.319 to my chart my right hand. Thankfully I'm a lefty, 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.880 I think. So it hasn't affected too many activities. Um 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:31.720 already already with what good lord? No listen. Um. We 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.280 actually had a listener right in on the movie Crushers 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:38.240 page who had a very very similar scooter incident. I 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.720 know a young lady. She even posted video of her 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.360 busting ass and then pictures of her really kind of 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:49.320 badly bruised legs and knee. I felt bad for I 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.480 felt vindicated, That's what I felt. Yeah, well I should 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.000 guess she'd find I'm gonna find her name. I just 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:58.200 got killed scoter in Atlanta, hit by truck, first scooter death. 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.480 Oh I didn't know that. Even it's gonna start happening. Man, 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:04.920 I hate this thing. I do too, dude, I do 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.040 too with a passion. Now. So no, let's catch up. 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.760 Guess what we're not doing corrections corner anymore. I deleted 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.919 that post. Even we're killing it. We're just done what 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.560 you're talking about, Okay, go a little tedious revisionist history. Yeah, 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.600 well you know, the original idea was like, hey, what 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.520 movie things did we get wrong? And then it became, um, 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:27.000 you're saying you're not pronouncing a word right, more like 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.680 pedantic corner? Am I right? Yeah? So, and truthfully, it's 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:34.000 not a great bit anyway. It's just dumb. So um, 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.639 it's too hard on yourself, chuck. Sorry everyone, I will 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:40.239 say this though, let's finish it out. A few people 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.960 posted this, thank you for being a friend. Was not 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.160 Carol king you. I was thinking, I said, that. I 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:50.639 was thinking of, Uh, you just gonna let my name, 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.320 and you know what, You've got a friend. That James 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:59.160 Taylor song, God a friend in me looking over here, 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:03.320 there's a thing going on. Maybe we could get some 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:08.320 lunch together sometime. What a guy? Can you just sing 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:12.000 about anything? You're saying? It's a Disney Family guy does 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:13.920 a good bit with that where he's like, look, go 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.760 over there, it's an apple tree. Got to pick me 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:21.720 apple it. Sure it's delicious. So I just ripped off 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.280 Family guy. No, it's not not at all. By the way, 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.200 that is not Carol King. I got it wrong. I 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.320 was thinking of, you've got a friend. Uh, it was 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.639 written by a gentleman, and then for the Golden Girls theme, 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.320 it was sung by a lady named Cynthia. Got something, 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.680 got it? So that's the last one. Everyone. I had 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.600 never ascribed that song to having even having a writer. 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.680 I thought I just kind of like came into being, 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.480 you know, be Arthur just set a fever dream exactly. 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:47.760 I didn't realize that The Golden Girls was a spin 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:51.320 off of another show called Maud. I didn't know about Maud. 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.080 Hold on a second. I just watched Maud is be 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.720 Arthur's character and Golden Girl's mod. Ye, what that's Maud. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.920 I did not know that. Yeah, Maud was when I 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.760 was kid. It was the seventies and it was speaking 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.640 of theme songs. Was that big famous producer guy that 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:12.280 did all those Oh man Nol, You haven't heard the 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.960 theme song to Maud? No lady, good dab. But was 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.520 a freedom ride? Oh that's great. Oh it's great. They 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.159 thinking about women in history, and then they go and 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:25.960 then there's Maud. Of course she occupies her own individual spaces. Well, 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:27.840 I feel like a dummy. I mean, I guess I've 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.159 never seen Golden Girls. I wouldn't know. They wouldn't have known. 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.360 But I did not know that was Mad. So what's 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.760 the idea she has? She lost her husband, I guess yeah. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:37.800 And I only read a brief synopsis of Maud. I've 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:39.839 never seen Maud. But I think in Maud she lives 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.039 in like she's a very like liberal, kind of like 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.479 activist d type woman in New York City living in 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.720 a house with a bunch of unconventional roommates and and 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:49.680 mad she had a husband, and Maud she maybe had 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:51.480 a husband, but I think she has like a deadbeat 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.039 son or something that looks I don't know, it's been 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.480 a while, but what's the relationship in the Golden Girls? 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.039 Who was she to them? Are they? They're all pal 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:03.040 sisters for in their friends and there's no sex thing. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.000 They have a gay roommate that was a big deal. 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.360 That was like one of the first like outside of soap, 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.560 I believe, But no, I think the thing with the 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:13.280 roommate in Golden Girls, they maybe don't openly talk about 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.000 that he's gay. He just kind of like is clearly 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:17.760 a gay character. But in so Billy Crystal's character like 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:22.320 he So yeah, soap it's fucking funny. Yeah, it's really good, 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.560 way ahead of its time. Uh. Nola had Pam Peacock 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.360 on in her show, went over like Gangbusters. She is 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.160 a cool gal. Pam's awesome and we had a great talk. 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.239 And now Pam it's like the hit of the movie 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.920 Crush Page. Everyone's like more Pam. Really, Yes, We're gonna 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.440 do a filmmaker series. I just seven decided or it's 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.560 really up to her, um, but I pitched to her 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:48.400 either more Michelle Gandry or just filmmaker or films by 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:53.920 artists like Schnabel Julian Schnabel or Tom Ford like they're 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.160 making movies. Yeah, they are making movies interesting. I agree. Maybe. Uh, 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.320 Julie Taymour was she an artist. She was like a 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:03.760 theater person. She did a lot of like production designed 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.520 for operas and big, big stage production. I think I 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.760 just want to talk about her movies. Movies are cool. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:13.440 And I'm also announcing another filmmaker series because I'm enjoying 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:18.320 these folks. Adam Pranica from Friendly Fire we recorded, which 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:22.080 will be out. Actually, I think it's already out when 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:25.520 you're hearing this. But Adam and I did Hard eight 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.240 p t Anderson's first film, and we are going to 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:32.480 do a pt Anderson series. That's the one pt Anderson 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:33.880 movie that I have not seen. I think we talked 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.359 about this last episode. Well, that's just a whole you 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.160 gotta film. Okay, I'm ready to read too. I'm ready 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.240 for it, all right. No, and the other thing we're 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:43.719 gonna catch up on here at the beginning of the 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:50.240 show is put up some poles for live shows. No poles, no, no, no. 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.000 I was just curious to see, what, you know, if 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.560 we could get some support to go out and do 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:59.320 a few shows. Uh, and so I picked six cities 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.320 and pitted them again it's one another and uh we 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:06.760 got four and forty votes. Um, Chicago got six of 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:13.280 those in Austin. So in theory would be so, you know, 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.240 maybe somewhere in the neighborhood of two hundred and fifty 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.560 tickets in Chicago, that's utterly respectable. Chuck. Yeah, of course 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:23.320 these are people just saying click not I will be 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.040 off work, I will buy a ticket, I will come 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:26.640 to the show. So you got to reduce that number. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:28.960 But I think if we get anywhere close to a 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.640 hundred and fifty people totally, that's well worth our time. 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.360 There's a couple of good venues in Chicago. We could 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:34.960 do it as a place called the Hideaway. That seems 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.440 pretty cool. And there's a lot of like smaller kind 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.760 of d i y venues that do like podcast host 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:41.480 podcast shows, and I know a bunch people that live there. 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.280 We'll talk about this. I think the one caveat here, folks, 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.320 is that my year is pretty full with stuff you 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:49.880 should know, shows and other travel and stuff and vacations, 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.720 and I can't, uh, I can't just pick up and 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.160 leave my wife and daughter a lot because it sucks 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.640 for me and them. I agree, So we're going to 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.200 try and figure it out them. Yeah, we can, you know, 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:04.040 plan out ahead. Seattle in Los Angeles, pitted against one 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:11.800 another sixty votes, resounding love from Seattle. I just don't 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.680 think we should go to l A. Never been to Seattle. Really, Yeah, 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:16.600 well maybe we should make that the first time. I 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.040 like it. I think my other show, Stuff They Don't 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:20.360 Want You to Know, is going to do a little 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.880 mini West Coast tour later this year. That would be fun. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:24.800 That would be Oregon. It was funny. There was like 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.480 a thing on Nurdice that was like the most popular 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:34.920 podcast in different cities and ridiculous history one for Oregon, 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.000 that's for Portland or something. It was really strange. Um 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.280 different show, but it's still I'm looking forward. So I'd 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.600 love to take you to your first Seattle. I would 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:48.719 hang out with John Roderick Jennings and we could get 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:52.160 highest balls. Legally, it sounds like a plan. Do you 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:55.640 wander around, go to the market thing with the yeah 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.760 you got the fucking fish there you go? Or catch 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.400 a fish. Gum wall here, there's a gum wall. There's 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.040 a gum wall. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, it sounds pretty gross. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:07.560 Get some of those uh Couture's cherries, that's what they're called. 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:12.800 Is that a particular thing, chocolate cover cherries? Okay, Seattle, Uh, 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:14.439 I don't know. I don't know if I'm getting the 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.520 name right. Okay. And then finally Noel Boston, New York. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:22.960 We should just go to both of those because close 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.000 to five boats. So that's great, dude, we could pick 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.520 out like a four city thing. Absolutely at least three. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.520 That would be so fun. Alright, No, I know I'm 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:39.120 a a squeaky wheel here, Chuck. Sorry, I love my family. No, 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.640 it's okay, dude, I love my family too. All right, 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:45.319 So we're gonna go with I haven't explained anything in 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.840 a while, had a little extra time to put into 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:51.080 this episode. So we're gonna talk today. Everyone about the 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:55.360 Wilhelm scream. Hollywood, I know you're a fan of the 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.840 Bill Holmes scream. Nol. Yeah, it's like that. Ah, that's 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.880 pretty good. That's a pretty good Bolt scream. I gotta say. So, 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:04.920 here's the story. Most people know this. A lot of 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.120 people listening to this probably know this what it is. 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.240 You may not know what some of the more detailed 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.200 parts of the story. Some of you may not know 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.679 what this is at all. So you're welcome because it's 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.760 one of the great great things in life and in 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.560 the film business. Uh, the fact that there is a 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:24.840 sound effect effect what the fact? Wait, I'm adding tease 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.520 to Crux. I need to get that tea from Crux. 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:35.480 Put it on effect United States. Um, it's there. There's 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.800 a sound effect called the Wilhelm screen that has been 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:44.160 used in more than two films, UM, hugely popular films 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.200 like Anchorman and Star Wars and The Lord of the Rings, 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:52.520 Toy Story, Reservoir Dogs, UM, smaller independent films, and it 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.400 has sort of been an in joke since it's It 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.400 was revived in the nineties seventies. So I think, without 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:01.160 going any for there, maybe let's just go ahead and 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.080 play the Wilhelm scream right now so everyone hears it 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:09.719 in its purest form. All right, that's it, everyone, Now, 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.280 let's play it for real. Here we go. All right, 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:18.440 So there it is. I gotta say, nol. Maybe we 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.040 didn't even need to say it. I think you just 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:26.160 needed more like uh vault general volume on it. You 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.360 were being kind to the microphone, you know, I try 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.760 to have good microphone etiquette, Chuck, you do a good job. 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.400 So Uh, like I said, it's a stock effect. It 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:39.400 was first used in there was a western called Distant 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.560 Drums starring Gary Cooper, and there was a scene and 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.439 you can watch it on YouTube, the very first use 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.360 of the Wilhelm scream where some dudes are walking through 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.080 a swamp and they get one of them gets dragged 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:58.600 under by an alligator. So, uh, debuted in that movie. 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:03.200 They did. Apparently, screams in the studio were performed, and 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:07.120 then the fifth of the six became this infamous scream. However, 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.640 it was not known as the Willelm scream at the time. Um, 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.080 that comes from a movie. Well, let me back up 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:19.040 a bit. Following that debut, uh, it became a part 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:22.720 of the sound effects library at Warner Brothers Studios and 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.000 was used in movies back then here and there, just 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.880 as not as a joke, but just as a scream 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.800 for your stock horror movie or whatever. Then in the 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.520 early nineteen seventies at usc S Film School, there are 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:38.199 some students who dug this thing up and noticed that 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.960 it was used in a bunch of movies. Uh. They 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.079 saw they thought. I think at the time that the 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:47.160 very first usage was from a nineteen sixty three film 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.679 called The Charge at Feather River. There was a character 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.880 named Private Wilhelm who gets shot with an arrow and 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:54.440 let's out the scream. So that's why it's called the 0:12:54.440 --> 0:13:00.520 Wilhelm Scream. Got it? Um. Then these USC students started 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.360 putting them in movies when they started, when they graduated 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.920 and started making films as a joke. As a joke, 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.719 it was like an at leaster e that's cool. Uh, 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.880 And notably Um, a gentleman name the last name of 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.160 Burt b r t t I was a sound designer 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.800 at USA, went on to do sound designed for Star 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:21.040 Wars and then very famously in the scene where Luke 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:27.040 and Leah are uh on the little perch with nothingness 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.640 in between them and they eventually make the big grappling 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.360 hook swing across, but before that they're shooting up at 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.400 stormtroopers on the ledge. They shoot one, he falls off 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.480 class acuse of the wilh Holme screen. It was in 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.360 all the Star Wars movies, that was in all the 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.440 Raiders movies. It's been a ton of ton of films 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:47.040 over the years. And here's the fun part. They think 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.080 they have figured out who actually is responsible for it. 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:55.920 They found old call sheet from Distant Drums and then uh, 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.760 they had people listed for that day for additional dialogue recording. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.680 And the one that they think it is was an 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.360 actor in a musician named chev Wooley. We don't know 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.680 for sure, but chev Wooley did go on to sing 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:13.360 Purple People eater, great name the novelty song. Yeah, one eyed, 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:20.960 one horn flying purple People. That's good stuff. Chock. So 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.800 that's the Bill Holm scream everyone, Hollywood history. Yeah, well sure, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.040 Hollywood history, that's what we call it. So now that 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:28.920 we know what that is, jeez, I haven't done this before, 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:30.600 have I? Have I done Bill Holmes scream already? No? 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:34.120 Absolutely not be Superman, No not all that was news 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.280 to me. Here's a little cherry on top of this 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.280 story to nol is that we talked about the Bill 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.600 Holmes scream and stuff you should know years ago. Asked 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.160 Cherry to insert it and she inserted the wrong effect. 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:47.840 Oh no, it's some random scream and search for the 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.000 Wilhelm screen. Well she did. I think it was just 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.320 mislabeled and she didn't run it by us. Yeah, it 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.360 said Bill Holmes scream on the file. That's right, that 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.080 makes sense. So we had an egg on our face. 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.200 Remember back in the day, maybe you don't um, but 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.360 when used to like Torrent things, it wasn't even torn. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:05.360 It was pre Torrent. Napster things. MP three would be mislabeled, 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:08.600 so you'd like be looking for like Dave Matthews band 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:11.040 and it would be like some schmos, you know, track 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.360 that he made in his bedroom, uploaded to Napster and 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.520 try to get people to you know, get into his stuff. Nice. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:25.800 I like that. All right. Now we're gonna go with 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:32.840 the social studies, real quick. Social studies, uh, and just 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.600 read some of these. I asked, has anyone ever been 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.400 angry at someone else's opinion of a movie that you 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.480 loved because someone had an opinion about something that you 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.560 cherished that kind of just made you mad? Can you 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:45.800 think of one? I feel like a lot of people 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.160 feel that about you and Lord of the Rings Chuck, Well, 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.120 Jim Frank certainly does. He got a lot of laughs. 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:53.800 He went off on me and you for you not 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.800 knowing it well enough, and me because he didn't think 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.920 I even watched it. The movies, but he was kidding. 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.520 It was a big long diet tribe, so big up 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.160 to you, Jim, But he was just joking around. He 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.400 loves us because I thought there were like four movies 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.080 or something like that. It was all tongue in cheek 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.840 though that's totally fair opinion of yeah, I mean, well, 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:19.080 oh well yeah, Mandy. Our pal Christopher Hasciotes hated it, 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.320 despised it, you were indifferent, which I was still a 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:26.160 little miffed by, if I'm being honest. But Christopher Hasiotes 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.680 hated it. He he called it jokingly to me via text, Man, 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.600 I don't know, Mandy's last hour and a half of 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:39.080 my life have been wasted or whatever. It's really funny, Christopera. 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:40.640 It was pretty good work that. When I'm not I'm 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:42.560 not doing it justice. He did it much better jobbing 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.720 than that. But um, yeah, I know that bugged me 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.800 and some people you know, have really come down strongly 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:48.840 against that movie, just saying and I think it's I 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:50.960 don't know. I hate to be dismissive and be like, oh, 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.440 you just didn't get it, but sometimes there is that element, 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:55.800 there's a thing just doesn't click where it clicks for 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.360 somebody It's hard to say that out loud because that's 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.280 the ultimate snobby thing to say, why caveat it? And 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.400 sometimes people just don't get it sometimes, but it don't 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.120 get it because especially with a very genre movie like that, 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.240 like either you're like in it or you're not, you know, 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.359 And I was just super super into because it clicked 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.000 all these buttons for me. Yeah, or something that's supposed 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.359 like supposed to supposed to be dumb humor or tongue 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.760 in cheek and people are just like, it wasn't funny. 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:20.800 I'm like, well, no, it's not. You don't get it. 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.160 It's not classically funny. They're trying to do the thing. 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.080 Great example, like that movie hot Rod. Have you seen 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.480 hot Rod? It's it's that kind of thing where it's like, 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.080 if you don't really know that style of humor, you're 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.040 kind of like, this is just a dumb, bad movie. 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.439 But then if you realize how tongue in cheek it 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.840 is and how much they're leaning into this kind of 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:46.560 like weird, sort of subtle psyched k, then yeah, I 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.320 think it's fair to say maybe you just didn't get 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.720 it right. It's like saying, what hot American summer was 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.000 just like this weird bed eighties can't movie very similar? Like, yes, 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.200 hot Rod is very similar to what hot American Summer 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.359 in that way. Yes, first love it. I love it too, Jada, 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.280 I'm so Jade, and A Rosenberg says, people who brush 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.320 off Clueless it's just a silly valley girl movie makes 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.480 me livid. Shares a very strong female role. The writing 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:11.760 is great, it's fantastic coming of age story. She got 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:13.040 a lot of likes and loves for that. I could 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:17.000 not agree more. Jade, Clueless is a great movie. Really 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:21.680 really enjoy it, and Emily lives it. I haven't seen 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:25.800 that probably since it came out. It's good. I remember 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.480 liking it. I was, you know, a preteen kind of 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.560 Paul Rudd who looked exactly the same today. He made 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.000 that dude's a vampire. That dude is the vampireless stat 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:35.679 he has a vampire. I don't want to meet him 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.960 one day. It seems like an interesting dude. All right, here, 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.359 we're gonna go with a little bit of a controversial topic. 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:46.879 Brian Amadi says this recent Keanu Reeves phenomena. I hear 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:48.439 people raping about him all the time now, and I 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.600 get irritated. Uh. He may be a great guy and 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.440 has been for but he has been for twenty years 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:58.959 one of the worst working actors in film. Unfair, unfair. 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.120 He said, there is not a movie save maybe Bill 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.359 and Ted, that could not have been improved by casting 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:09.080 another actor. I just don't agree. Yeah, because the thing 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.560 that people forget about Keanu Reeves too is his like 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.560 physicality and how much he like leans into doing all 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.199 his own stunts and like what hard worker he is, 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:19.919 you know. Yeah, I think there are people that have 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:24.360 certain qualities to their voice, uh where it may come 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.359 across as a little more you know, Like Sharon Stone 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:30.679 was one. I think she just has a voice that 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.400 you know, for a while she was not regarded as 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.480 like the best actor, but then she eventually got some 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.160 really great roles improved everyone wrong. But I think Kiana 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.520 might have one of those voices too. I know, kunk 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:44.600 fu yeah exactly, you know, Um, I get it. But 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:46.800 I think he is a good actor. That's the thing though, 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:50.199 Like I I also think that he is a campy actor. 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.280 He is sort of like a less over the top 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:58.480 uh Nicolas Cage kind of only I think Nicholas Cage 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.199 is a better actor. When he's a better act than 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:02.199 conna Reeves. I would agree that The Counties isn't a 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.679 great actor, but he's a very specific thing. No one 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.040 else can really fill that Keanas shaped hole. You know 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:10.760 what I mean. That's what I'm saying, because that hole 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:15.960 is shaped like the matrix. Uh. Mary Claire Grigson says, 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.280 people who don't get to the movie Down with Love 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:22.600 good Night, I haven't seen them. Joshua Fish, my boss 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.320 didn't like The Princess Bride. That pretty much sums it up. 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:29.439 It's the Princess Bride who doesn't like that movie. I 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:31.720 don't know, you're dead inside. I think that's that's fair. 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:36.000 Chuck American Psycho. That's who doesn't like that. Our old pal, 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.440 Theresa Tomorrow. I've never met anyone who has seen good 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:45.200 Night and good Luck? Oh, she says, I don't. I've 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.320 never met anyone who has seen let alone loved good 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:48.880 Night and good Luck. It's one of my all time 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:52.000 favorite films. Oh. I think plenty of people saw that. Yeah, 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.720 for sure, Um, it is one of those movies. Though 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.160 that time forgot a little bit like it was such 0:20:57.200 --> 0:20:59.200 a big oscar movie, sort of like the Artist, remember 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.879 the Artist. I didn't see that see, but that was 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:03.520 a big old Oscar movie because it was one of 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:06.280 those Hollywood worship movies that was like the Golden Age 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:07.920 or whatever, and it was all black and white. Good 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:09.760 Night and good Luck was very similarly that it was 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:11.920 black and white. It was that leaned into that old 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:15.960 timy kind of like right, yeah, exactly. But I'm saying 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:17.560 I think a lot of people kind of forgot about 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:19.680 that movie, and it was. It was very good. Both 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.120 of them were very good. They really enjoyed it. Our 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:25.560 oldest of friends, Vanessa Lopez says, when someone said to 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.680 me once they thought Shaw Shank Redemption was a poorly 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:34.919 executed movie, geez, not even I didn't like it poorly executed. 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:37.919 I think Shaw Sank Redemption is one of the finer 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:42.720 examples of movie making execution. What is wrong with people? Know? 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:44.960 Now I'm getting mad. There's a lot of things wrong 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.359