1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry with Carmen Vitally. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 2: Thank you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us, Carmi. 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: Holy Trades Week. I mean, nothing official yet, but like 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: it felt like every single day this week we were 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: waking up to a blockbuster, big move. 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: It just happened again. The Green Bay Packers got Zira Franklin. 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: So dude, cancer, it's that time of year. Can't stop, 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: won't stop. Also, happy World Baseball Classic. We've already had 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: some incredible moments. If you haven't been watching it all, 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: don't worry, we got you covered. But you should have 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: at least seen Otani's Grand Slam in the Tokyo Dome 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: because like that's the atmosphere those moments should be happening in. 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: It was just Chef's kiss, incredible, Aaron Judge setting in 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: tone for Team USA. They play again today. We're gonna 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: hit all of those things today. Also trades, Uh no, 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: we just said that. We're talking about the two amazing 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: NFL guests that are going to be coming on to 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: talk about all these trades and free agency frenzy that's 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: going to kick off next week at the start of 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: the new league year. When that hits on Wednesday, we 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: have NFL Networks Cynthia Freeland coming on and senior NFL 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: writer at The Athletic Jordan rod Reig. I am so excited. 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: She's a good friend. I'm super excited. I've tried a 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: couple of times again her on, but me is like 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: everywhere all the time. 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: Would be one of those people though, where you're just like, hey, 28 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just got places to be. I'm wanted. 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: She got in incredible, She's got an incredible talent for 30 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: uh and she's I mean she she was the rams 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: writer yes for The Athletic and has gotten in with 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: the like Sean McVay, the entire tree really and she's 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: said some incredible things like because of that, and then 34 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: now that she's a national it's so cool to see 35 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: her branching out and getting to do some really cool stuff. 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: She took us in. We'll talk more about it, but 37 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,639 Speaker 1: she she just had an article that came out taking 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: you inside scouting reports, and it had everybody talking this 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: week on Twitter. It was awesome. 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: We'd love to see it, love to see it. We 41 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: want more of that We also have a producer ian 42 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: with US Today, technical producer Chris Martin Wise at the 43 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: news desk. But let's start with those big trades, because 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: obviously nothing's official until Wednesday next week, the new league year. 45 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: But a few of these trades scream like we are 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: win now teams, and that's kind of the biggest takeaway 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: I got from a lot of these. Let's start with 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: like last night's blockbuster trade, the Max Crosby to the 49 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: Ravens Vegas, obviously trading one of the top edge rushers 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: in exchange for Baltimore's number fourteenth pick overall pick in 51 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six draft and a first round in 52 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. Now, I'm not surprised that he got traded, 53 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: since Crosby has been there's been trade rumors since the 54 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: end of last season when he was quote shut down 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 2: for the final two games of the season. He wasn't 56 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: happy about it. You could kind of feel the divorce 57 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: coming between these two teams. The timing, I guess, was like, oh, snap, okay, 58 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: just when we thought like maybe it had calmed down 59 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: a bit, Nope, here we go last night. This is 60 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: what you get. What surprised me is that the Ravens 61 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: have never traded a first round pick for a player, 62 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: and they parted with two first round picks for Crosby. 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: It was a tremendous asking price, which is kind I 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: think a lot of the I don't necessarily think trade 65 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: talks had cooled as much as people thought, all right, 66 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: maybe the asking price is coming down because it's not 67 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: as much of a hot button thing. And so, you know, 68 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: the Raiders had long put out there that they wanted 69 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: two first round picks for Crosby. They wanted the Micah 70 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: Parsons deal. Although there was a player involved in the 71 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons deal too, so it's not quite the Micah 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: Parsons steal. But it seemed like, you know, with some 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: of the cooling of the chatter, that maybe teams weren't 74 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: willing to pay that. Yeah, And what we found out 75 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: from this whole scenario is that the Ravens obviously weren't 76 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: the only one that we're vying for Max Rosby's services. 77 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: But the next best offer was from the Dallas Cowboys, 78 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: who wanted to give up a first round pick and 79 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: a second round pick. They did not want to part 80 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: with two firsts and that's the surprising factor to me, 81 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: because listen, Max Crosby is an incredible player. I mean, 82 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: I think he's top three edge rusher, top three and 83 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: just edge in general because of what he can do 84 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: against the run and how complete of a player that 85 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: he is his style. But he's twenty nine, yes, and 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: he is coming off of injury. He had surgery to 87 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: hopefully fix his shoulder. So what the Ravens at now 88 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: are banking on is that that fixed him and we 89 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: see the Max Crosby of two years ago versus what 90 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: we saw this last season. Because what we saw this 91 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: last season, quite frankly, wasn't worth two first round picks. No, no, now. 92 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: Two years ago, sure, and that's where you were taking 93 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: a tremendous risk and a tremendous gamble if you're the Ravens. 94 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: And it's just it just proved to be something that 95 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: other teams weren't willing to do. There was a lot 96 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: of chatter here in Chicago about trying to get Max 97 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: Crosby because of the fact that they have an anemic 98 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: pass rush and they have for the last couple of years. 99 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: They need that dude on their line, and not to 100 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: mention Chicago has cleared a bunch of cap space this 101 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: last like this last week between the retirement, the surprise 102 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: retirement of Drew Dolman, you released Tremaine Edmund's your linebacker. 103 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: So there was other things that like they have now 104 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: cleared a bunch of cap space. They traded DJ Moore, 105 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: They cleared a bunch of cap space, and people were like, 106 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: is this to go get Max Crosby? 107 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 2: Were they in the conversation? Were you hearing like Ammy, I. 108 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: Don't think so, because this was not a price that 109 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: they were going to be willing to pay. They weren't 110 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: going to be willing to pay, and I think it's 111 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: the right. I went on Chicago TV. I went on 112 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: local local, Local, Fox, Yeah, and I talked about how 113 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to trade away in mortgage in the 114 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: future for a guy that you have to take a 115 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: gamble on as good as he is, as good as 116 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: he can be. We don't know what he's going to 117 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: look like after shoulder surgery. And I just I wasn't 118 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: comfortable with not only do you have to pay in 119 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: draft capital to go get him, but then you have 120 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: to pay his salary and defensive end and edge salary. 121 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: You're gonna have some creative accounting come in here. 122 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: That's forty million dollars or more a year. And to 123 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: be creative, Alex is going to take some cooperation from 124 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: the front office and from the Bears ownership that we 125 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: just blatantly haven't seen or bluntly haven't seen from the 126 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. You have to front load so much of 127 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: that so that a minimal amount of that forty million 128 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: dollars a year hits the cap. And do you do 129 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: that by offering it up as a signing bonus, which 130 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: means you have to pay that player right up front 131 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: front And we have not seen that from the Chicago Bears. 132 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: And so I was like, between the draft picks and 133 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: draft capital you'd have to give up for an ascending 134 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: team on top of them having to pay him forty 135 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. This didn't make a whole lot 136 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: of sense to me. And I think the Ravens are 137 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: very well suited for you know, they are in they 138 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: have a new head coach, but he's someone that's familiar 139 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: with the organization. 140 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: But he also lemarg at that he's planning to call 141 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: the defensive plays. So if you're a new head coach 142 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: coach in mentor like you're in the new era you 143 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: need to make you need to take a big swing 144 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: right because this isn't a team and a head coaching situation. 145 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: We have a couple of those where you're going to 146 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: come in and you're going to get a lot of time. 147 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: You just had a legendary coach in Harbaugh get pushed out. 148 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,119 Speaker 2: You are stepping in. This is a win now team 149 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: and this is a win now move. And the Ravens 150 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: needed a guy like Crosby because their pass rush last 151 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: season was tied for thirtieth in sack thirty first in 152 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: sack percentage, thirtieth in hurry percentile, Like this is a 153 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: piece that they needed to be better. And a guy 154 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: like Max Crosby, this man deserves to be on a 155 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: winning team and a team that fits his aggressive style. 156 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: And adding stars to a star studded team who has 157 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: a super Bowl or Bust mental is always a great idea. 158 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: And did you see Lamar's tweet just the happy thing 159 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: the boom, Like he knew they were just waiting like 160 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: this has been bruined for a bit and it was 161 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: just like, okay, the news is finally out now we 162 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: can talk about it. 163 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I this. This now makes the Ravens a very, 164 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: very complete team. There are still some holes that need 165 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: to be addressed, but this is a franchise that's been 166 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: known for defense, and these last couple of years that 167 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: the anemic passers from them has been completely uncharacteristic and 168 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: it's not sustainable, especially when you're talking about maybe Lamar 169 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: Jackson isn't going to play the whole season because he's 170 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: a little bit injury prone. He usually has to miss 171 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: a few games. Can you have a defensive unit that 172 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: can steer the ship and can win win games if 173 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: he's out? Can you lean on that side of the ball. 174 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: And that's not what they've been able to do last 175 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: couple of years, which is why Jesse Mentor was brought in. 176 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: He's a phenomenal defensive coordinator. It got his you know, 177 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: it was coaching for the Ravens as a position coach 178 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: before he went to the West Coast. And now he's 179 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: back and there's a lot of cotton. There's a lot 180 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: to love about the Ravens. They are also now in 181 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: what should be one of the best, at least defensive 182 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: divisions in football and unfortunately Joe Burrow staring around. 183 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: Have you seen all the memes Joe Burrow just looking miles. 184 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: He's in a division with all of them, like. 185 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: The best and houses aligned. Do you see like the 186 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: the line just like. 187 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: Three of the four best pass to do in the 188 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: entire league now reside in the AFC art. 189 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: It's insane. I feel bad for Burrow. 190 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: I felt bad for Burrow for years at this point, 191 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: like he just needs his defense to be like. 192 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 2: Please go up okay something if. 193 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: His defense to be okay, And he's only needed that 194 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: for the last like a couple of years. And when 195 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: he's healthy and. 196 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: He's just protect your number one asset. And like, as 197 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: we've seen the last few years, he has had MVP 198 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: caliber play, but the defense has been losing the games 199 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: for them, literally losing the games for it. 200 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: It's it's it's honestly, if if anybody is under the 201 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: more pressure then like I think, I think the Cincinnati Bengals, 202 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: and I talked about this last show actually when I 203 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: was on with Tracy is like, this is a make 204 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: or breakoff season for the Cincinnati Bengals because of the 205 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: fact that they it's it's. 206 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 2: Put up a shut up times it is. 207 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm done. 208 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: I'm done like like being worried. 209 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: About Joe Burrow. I'm done feeling sorry for Joe Burrow. 210 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,119 Speaker 2: Up to Burrow or the Bengals. 211 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: The Bengals because they're wasting Joe Burrow. They're wasting Joe Burrow, 212 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase T. Higgins. Yeah, and because of the fact 213 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: that even though their offense is scoring thirty or thirty 214 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: two points, their defense is letting up thirty three or 215 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: thirty four points. Like it's that marginal Barrow where I'm like, 216 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: I just need your defense to be average. That's all 217 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: you need. And the fact that you can't do that 218 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: is a crime at this point, because you are wasting 219 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: this beautiful boy and Joe Burrow and all of his 220 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: talent with his receivers Sweet Joey B Sweet Sweet Joey B. 221 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: Dinosaur Levin Dinasar Fossil, Lovin. 222 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: Joey Ben Batmobile. 223 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: Especially now that your other teams in your division now 224 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: are bulking up. 225 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: They're coming at you. You are the number one target, and. 226 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: Now Pittsburgh is going to be very interesting to see 227 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: what happens. They're free agent wise with Aaron Rodgers and 228 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: this that and the other. But like I know, I 229 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: think the Bengals are under probably the most pressure, if 230 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: not in the AFC, like in the league. 231 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: WHOA just because that's a hot take. I don't think 232 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: it's a hot take. The most pressure in the league, Yes, 233 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: because you're. 234 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor's getting fired after this year. If they don't 235 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: do well, there's going to be a tremendous upheaval. You 236 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: could see Joe Burrow, one of the potentially the best 237 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks of this generation, try and force his way out 238 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: of there. 239 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: So I would come come in and say, I think 240 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: we have like a three team tie here because you 241 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: have Ravens and Lamar Jackson under new a coach, and 242 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: then Josh Allen and the Bill's new head coach. These 243 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: are all top tier quarterbacks right when you have the 244 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: quarterback tier. These three quarterbacks for the last five years 245 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 2: have either been in that top with obviously Patrick Mahomes. 246 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: And if they don't have win now Super Bowl or 247 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 2: bus seasons, I think that like there's there's going to 248 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: be heat on all of these teams. 249 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: I mean, but like look at the Bills and the 250 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: Ravens just they just ousted their head coaches. People aren't 251 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: getting fired necessarily, Like the head coaches aren't getting fired 252 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: if you don't get to the super Bowl this year? Yes, 253 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: is it super Bowl or bust? Like obviously because you want, 254 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: Like Joe Brady is familiar with that team just as 255 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: much as Jesse Mentor is familiar with the Baltimore Ravens. 256 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: And it's supposed to work this year. These moves were 257 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: made so it works this year. But when I talk 258 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: about pressure, I'm like, what's going to happen to this 259 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: entire franchise if they don't get go on a run 260 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: this year? And with the with the Cincinnati Bengals, I mean, 261 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: you could be looking at losing the best thing it 262 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: could have ever had into you and Joe Burrow, and 263 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: you could be you could lose your head coach. That 264 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: the GM situation is a little weird because but ownership 265 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: has a lot of personnel control there, and that's kind 266 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: of been the common denominator here as to why the 267 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: Bengals haven't been able to get over the hump. But like, 268 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: you're already losing Trey Hendrickson to free agency at this point, 269 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: who was your best pass rusher for multiple years and 270 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: you wasted that too, and that went so sour so quick. 271 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: So I just with the Cincinnati Bengals, like this is 272 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: the year that you have to do something Otherwise the 273 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals as we've known them over the last three 274 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: or four years is going to cease to exist, which 275 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: don't necessarily say about the boss. 276 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: They thought like oh, when they fired their defensive coordinator, 277 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 2: Big Lou, like that was like, Okay, we're making a 278 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: change and we're going to improve, and they haven't. Like 279 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: nothing has really gotten better even since. 280 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean that's why LOUI even came in there in 281 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: the first place. 282 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: I know, So so like how is nothing? How has 283 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: nothing changed exactly? 284 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: That's why Like this is like this is a year's 285 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: long process of being like things need to get better, 286 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: things need to get better. Okay, things really need to 287 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: get better. Things really need to get better. Now you're 288 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: at like the apex of that where you're just like 289 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: if things don't get better, there is going to be 290 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: drastic changes, insane for Cincinnati where we're not even like 291 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: they're going to just go into a relevancy all over again, 292 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: which I don't want for them, and I don't want 293 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: for I don't want for Joey b obviously, but I 294 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: think he would force his way somewhere else. 295 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: So how we got into this conversation was the big 296 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: trade of Max Crosby Crosby. This is what happens when 297 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: Max Crosby gets a year to Jane. When the Raiders 298 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: traded him to the Ravens and they gave two first 299 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: round Ravens gave up two first round picks. So now 300 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: let's look at the other end. With Vegas, they're obviously 301 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: in a major rebuild for their future. They have the 302 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: number one overall pick they will be taking if everything 303 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: goes to plan, like the Heisman Trophy winner, a national champ, 304 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: number one of all in all of our hearts for 305 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: Nanda Mendoza. They have a lot of draft capital now okay, 306 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: because I think what they had ten ten picks this 307 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: year before this, now what eleven another first round with 308 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: the Crosby trade. So my hope for them is that 309 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: they get enough to protect Fernando Mendoza, some o line 310 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: help and some major weapons for Mendoza, And like, who 311 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: are they going to go out and get in free agency? 312 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: Maybe one of these veteran quarterbacks to maybe ease him 313 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: in to his first season, Maybe start the first couple 314 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: of games, be a little mentor for him so he 315 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: doesn't just get thrown out in the heat. 316 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it would. I don't think if you're 317 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: Vegas that you need to go out and get one 318 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: of the Like you don't need to go get like 319 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: Gino Smith, because I mean, first of all, he was 320 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: already there. Second of all, like you don't need to 321 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: get that caliber of a veteran. What I do think 322 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: you need to do is get like like what the 323 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: Bears just did, which they had case Keenan in the 324 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: quarterback room for Caleb Williams. I'm like, that's great, do 325 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: something like. 326 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: That reliable with the quarterback. 327 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: With the money you have and the capital you have, 328 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: Like that's that's a no brainer. Yes, But what I 329 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: really need them to do is go after the offensive 330 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: line with like I'm talking all across. 331 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: The line, protect protect your boy. 332 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: And then when it comes to weapons, you have Ashton Gent, 333 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: you have Brock Bowers. What you really need is like 334 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: that true number one wide receiver. You need a wide out, 335 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: and this is a good draft to go get one. 336 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: And you're also not under a whole lot of pressure 337 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: to do anything this season you just want again, like 338 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: the the Raiders, like acknowledging that they're on a rebuild 339 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: is like great, Now, just just prove to us you're 340 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: going in the right direction at this point, Like you 341 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: don't need to especially in the AFC West, you don't 342 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: need to win the division right now. You don't need 343 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: to do any of this kind of stuff. You just 344 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: need to a not get sweet Baby Fernando Mendoza kilt Sweetweepbapy, 345 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: and you need to show that you're in the right direct. 346 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: Like if having a five hundred season for the Raiders 347 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: at this point is I think the most that you 348 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: can hope for. 349 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: And if you get so that's an insane like glood exactly. 350 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: That's my point is like you don't even it doesn't 351 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: even have to be a winning season. You can have 352 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: an eight and nine season would incredible. 353 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: That would be the years perfection. 354 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: That would be perfect. That would tell us everything we 355 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: need to know that John Spytech and his team are 356 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: doing the right things in Vegas and trying to figure 357 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: out and heading in the right direction. So the good 358 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: news is you're not under a whole lot of pressure there, 359 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: but you do have a tremendous amount of capital to 360 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: infuse this roster with some really good developing talent so 361 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: that in two years, maybe three years, you're really You've 362 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: still got the rookie contract for the quarterback and you 363 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: have guys that are going to be with him the 364 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: entire time, and like that is all the makings of 365 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: a franchise that could turn around within the next couple 366 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: of years pretty quickly. 367 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: I love that. 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And 406 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: this was the perfect trade for the Rams. Getting a 407 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 2: corner was their biggest need and they historically don't do 408 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: crazy things in the draft. Plus they had two first 409 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: round picks this year, so to use their second first 410 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: round to make this big move very on brand for 411 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: the Rams. And the Rams are sitting in a great spot, 412 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: you guys. I mean they also reportedly just resigned safety 413 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: Camcurl to a three year, a thirty six million dollar deal. 414 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: Before all this went down, they had over forty million 415 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: in cap space have been like talks and reports at 416 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: a good chunk of that. It's going to go to 417 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: restructuring Matthew Stafford's contract, which they should. He is the 418 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: reigning MVP. Obviously some's going to be going to McDuffie. 419 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: And after all this went down, according to DraftKings, Rams 420 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: are now the favorite to win the Super Bowl. 421 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: The Rams were never ever, ever going to make two 422 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: first round picks, No, because they just ever they less need. 423 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: Has made an entire like strategy identity of just saying. 424 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: F them picks, yeah, and he's going to get established 425 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 2: players instead. 426 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: Listen, it's a strategy. They paid off for the Rams 427 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: because they are like routinely in title contention, they are 428 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: routinely like they win, yes, And it's kind of one 429 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: of those I put less need in the Rams up 430 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: there with like Howie Roseman and the Eagles too, where 431 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: you're just like, how do we let them keep getting 432 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: away with them? Because I also Trent McDuffie. He's been 433 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: one of my favorite players since he came out of 434 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 1: Washington years ago, like legitimately. And I actually I covered 435 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl against the Eagles that was in Arizona 436 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: a few years ago, and I had talked to Trent 437 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: McDuffie at that point before, and I was in his 438 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: scrum at media night and people were talking and talking 439 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: and talking and he was just like, hey, she's she's 440 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: been here. I'm going to take her question. 441 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: Hell yeah. 442 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, He's like, I'm likery, like 443 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: we met here and there. Whatever. He's like, I remember 444 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: you from like Draft night, whatever, my favorite and I 445 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: was just like ah, thanks, and so it was it 446 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: was just a really nice He's just a nice dude. 447 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: I remember talking to some of his Washington teammates about 448 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: him because they were on the Bucks when I was 449 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: with the Bucks and it was just I've been such 450 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: a fan of his and then to see him come 451 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: into the league and just make a tremendous impact. He 452 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: is one of the best corners in the league, I think, 453 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: Barnunn and just an overall really good human. So of 454 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: the Rams could you couldn't have. You can't tell me 455 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: that you were going to get anything better out of 456 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: that first round pick. You just can't. You can't, which 457 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: is less needs whole like Mantra apparently is just getting 458 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: proven players over the draft and developed that the Rams 459 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: have not drafted and developed a lot of their superstars 460 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: in the less neat era. So I'm really excited for 461 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: Trent to also go to a big market and to 462 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: see how like he fits in there. But I think 463 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: that this is again going to be a team that 464 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: is going to be in contention for the NFC title, 465 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: if not the whole thing again, and I'm happy for 466 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. I think this was a home 467 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: run rate. And you know, the Chiefs also have a 468 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: track record of doing stuff like this where you get 469 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: rid of a superstar in exchange for significant draft capital, 470 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: and they have proven that they can draft and develop, 471 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: so they did this with Tyreek Hill a couple of 472 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: years ago, a few years ago. Now they'll do it 473 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: with Trent McDuffie. Where they're getting rid of a guy 474 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: that is at the height of his amen is a 475 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: real asset, but what they're getting in return is something 476 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: like even more valuable to. 477 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: That rebuilt franchisel. 478 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: I don't know that you can call it a deplete rebuild, 479 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, like you you're going to get. You have 480 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: significant draft capital now and again a proven track record 481 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: of being able to draft these guys and develop them 482 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: and field a great team in the process. 483 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 2: I just obviously a little biased here, La native Rams fan. 484 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: They have so many things working in their favor right now. 485 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: They were already one of the more complete teams in 486 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: the league. They just filled their weakest position, which, as 487 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 2: you just heard Karmei go on, one of the best 488 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: there is there both on and off the field. And 489 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: the last time they won the Super Bowl it was 490 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: in LA and next season, where is the Super Bowl? 491 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 2: A feels like perfect timing. 492 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: Just say that we had like fifty five years of 493 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: never having a home team win the Super Bowl in 494 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: their stadium, Yeah, and then we had it happened twice 495 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: in a row, YEP, which was it's just wild. 496 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: It's beautiful, It's beautiful, all right, Martin, let's check in 497 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: what's trending. 498 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 3: In men's college basketball? Was about eleven minutes left in 499 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: the first half. Fifth ranked flo Lorida has a sixteen 500 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 3: to nine lead over Kentucky, Wisconsin and per Due. Fifteenth 501 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 3: ranks Boilermakers leading twenty two to thirteen, twelve minutes left 502 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 3: first half. There ten minutes left in the first half 503 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: for Saint Louis and George Mason to mid majors. 504 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 5: There twenty three a piece. 505 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 3: Earlier today, we saw unranked Marquette upset Yukon, the fourth 506 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: ranked team in a nation, sixty eight to sixty two, 507 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: Danny Hurley getting ejected in the final second of the game. 508 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 3: The Packers traded defensive tackle Colby Wood into the Colts 509 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: for linebackers I here of Franklin. Franklin led the NFL 510 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: and tackles in twenty twenty four. Eagles defensive tackle In 511 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: Eagles and defensive tackle Jordan Davis have agreed to terms 512 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 3: on a three year, seventy eight million dollar extension. Connem 513 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 3: Or govern the Bill Center agreed to a new four 514 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 3: year fifty two million dollar contract, and Brandon Aubrey and 515 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 3: the Cowboys did not agree to a long term contract. 516 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: Attention to the kicker has been placed under a free 517 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: agent tender ahead of the twenty twenty six league year. 518 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 5: In the n right now, the Rangers in the. 519 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 3: Bruins tied to a piece with about eleven minutes left 520 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 3: in the second. 521 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 5: Period, and in the NBA, the Orlando. 522 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: Magic and the Minnesota Timberwolves about ten minutes left in 523 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: the third quarter. There Orlando Leeds sixty six to fifty seven. 524 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 3: Pallo Bancaro and Anthony Edwards going back and forth here. 525 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: Palo's got nineteen points on eight for ten from the floor, 526 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: Anthony twenty for six from eleven from the floor. 527 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 5: This one again just getting started in the second half. Ladies, 528 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 5: back to you. 529 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: Thank you Martin, you're listening to Fox Sports Saturday and 530 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending 531 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: your Saturday afternoon with us. It is time for our 532 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: first guest, one of the smartest minds in sports, NFL 533 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: Networks analytic expert, host of Number Game and NFL IQ 534 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 2: and a Bessie of our show We Love You Cynthia Freeland. 535 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: I said, hey, guys, how then amazing? 536 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: Before we start this, Alex, I need to just tell people. 537 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: Wait, she told me about this when we were working 538 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 2: out the other day, So go okay. 539 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: So I was at the combine, Cynthia was at the combine. 540 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: Before the combine starts, Cynthia calls me. She's like, hey, 541 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm hosting a plates class in the middle of combine week. 542 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: At eight am. 543 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: Do you want to come? And I was like, obviously 544 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: I want to come, Cynthia, but really eight am on 545 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: a Wednesday in the middle of combine week. But sure, fine, 546 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: You're the only one that can get me up that time. 547 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: So you do. And then I show up and expecting Cynthia, 548 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: who is a certified plate's instructor since what two thousand 549 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 1: she I'm like, you know, she's gonna go easy on us, right, guys, 550 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: Like it's gonna be fine. Ever, I was somehow ended 551 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: up in the front row two of this and under 552 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: my breath Send could hear me every single thing. I 553 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: was like, God, I'm making all these noises because she 554 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: did not take it easy on us, and I was 555 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: sore for three days. I really appreciate it I didn't 556 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: realize it was eight am. 557 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 2: Aggressive, Cynthia. 558 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: Well, everything starts, so I know. 559 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 7: That's fair if you either you know, either do it 560 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 7: then or you don't get it in. 561 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: So that's true because after it's a smooth schmoot schmoozing 562 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: schmoozing drinks. 563 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: Also, I can't find the true through uh strawberries and 564 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: cream freeze dried strawberries anywhere, Cynthia now, And I'm like, 565 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: you put you booked me on them, like can you 566 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: put me up? So good? They're so good? I can't 567 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: find them anywhere now, so good. 568 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: Okay, I need to try. 569 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 7: I got the plug for you. 570 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: We love that. We love a good lug. All right, 571 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 2: So let's start with the blockbuster trade that broke last night. 572 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: Max Crosby to the Ravens. You've you know the Raiders 573 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 2: organization inside and out very well. Were you shocked by 574 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 2: the Ravens making this move? And how will this kind 575 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: of transform the Ravens? And then the draft picks that 576 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: they got over at the Raiders? 577 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 578 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 7: Well okay, so first and foremost, I'm also I'm also 579 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 7: pretty close with Max Crosby. You know, all Michiganers, we 580 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 7: all true true but he's also been He was on 581 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 7: game day morning a number of times, so I got 582 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 7: a chance to speak to him, and he's just like 583 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 7: a great dude. But it was interesting. I was actually 584 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 7: pretty shocked that it all went down. Not that I 585 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 7: didn't think they'd get to first for him, but I 586 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 7: felt like the Raiders maybe were like, all right, make it. 587 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 7: It's like a huge offer because if he's unhappy, we 588 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 7: got to figure it out. But like I guess I didn't. 589 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 7: I thought that because I. 590 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 2: Know he is a he is. 591 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 7: If not, I mean, I can't remember anyone Mark Davis 592 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 7: has spoken more highly about that's not a historical Raider 593 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 7: like he has some ones like you know, the Hall 594 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 7: of Fame, like historical ones that he's very like speaks 595 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 7: lovingly about. But he really really liked Max. But it'll 596 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 7: be interesting to see in a couple of months or 597 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 7: years how what the truth it really is, because you know, 598 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 7: obviously it was a little weird, like at the end 599 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 7: of last season with the like Max was posting those 600 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 7: like basketball things and playing basketball and then he got 601 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 7: a little clean up on his knee, and I don't know, 602 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 7: I'm not sure what the truth is. I think eventually 603 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 7: we'll hear the full the full thing. But you know, 604 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 7: the Ravens got a great one. 605 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: They were not in a. 606 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 7: Position to get a pass rusher that they thought was 607 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 7: It's a it's a decent pass rush class, like very 608 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 7: good athletes, but like maybe not guys that are as 609 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 7: well rounded as Max. If you look at what Max 610 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 7: has done better than anyone else in s ender of the 611 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 7: league seven years ago, it's at his position, which is 612 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 7: obviously a guy who's meant to attack the quarterback. He's 613 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 7: also the best run stopper. 614 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm true. 615 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 7: I'm true edges people who line up on the edge. 616 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 7: No one's had more run stops than him since he 617 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 7: entered the league, So you know, it's it's a versatile player. 618 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 7: He's still got a lot of tread on those tires. 619 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 7: I'm not worried about his knee. I'm not worried about 620 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 7: his health. This is a guy who for an organization 621 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 7: who didn't have a lot to play for a lot. 622 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 7: I'm saying it very nicely. Yeah, he still like gave 623 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 7: them absolutely everything all the time. So I think it's 624 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 7: a I think it's going to be great for Max. 625 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 7: I think they're just I think in that division, this 626 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 7: is a really good time to capitalize on uncertainty. I mean, 627 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 7: if you think about it, when has it been a 628 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 7: better time to be in the AFC North Right Love 629 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson The Two Times NBC. There's some uncertaint around 630 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 7: the Steelers. Okay, there's some uncertainty around the Bengal I 631 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 7: mean the Bengals defense. I don't who are they going 632 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 7: to play with? We Go Brow's awesome, but like the defense, 633 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 7: and then of course the Browns are a giant question mark. 634 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 7: So I feel like if you're going to capitalize on 635 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 7: a time when you really could kind of get a 636 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 7: premier player that you know is worse, that pick is 637 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 7: better than you'd be able to get where they'd be picking. 638 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's I think it's a smart 639 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 7: decision to start your franchise off Jesse Minter. You obviously, 640 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 7: it's just he's got to make He's got to make 641 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 7: his mark. 642 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm excited that this is one of those 643 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: things where like, what were the Raiders really going to 644 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: accomplish by keeping masks for Rosby in particular, but then 645 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: now being able to have all of this ammunition to 646 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: go and truly have a rebuild in you know, as 647 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: they get the new quarterback and you have some time 648 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: while he's on the key contract and that kind of stuff. 649 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: But I want to talk still a little bit more 650 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: about the Ravens and what this does for Lamar Jackson 651 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: in particular, because they were uncharacteristically bad when the pass 652 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: rush last year. On defense, their defense just has kind 653 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: of come up a little bit in nimick the last 654 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: few seasons. You bring in Jesse Minter, and he's obviously 655 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: acutely familiar with what this Ravens scheme should look like, 656 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: what the identity of this team should look like. But 657 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: now when you talk about a guy like Lamar Jackson 658 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: who hasn't been able to like he misses a few 659 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: games each season, right, and that can put at least 660 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: a few games, I should say, and that can put 661 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: the Ravens in tough spots. Do you think now, with 662 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: the addition of Max Crosby and perhaps Jesse Minter now 663 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: calling this defense, is this a unit that can weather 664 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: the storm if and when Lamar Jackson gets hurt, and 665 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: does that allow him to play a little free? Yeah? 666 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 7: I think the question now becomes how do the Ravens 667 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 7: get their O line to a place where they feel comfortable, 668 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 7: you know, like that is that is, that is what 669 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 7: it will come down to. Right, They've got Derek Henry, 670 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 7: which takes a little bit of the pressure off of 671 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson. I don't care that their wide receivers aren't 672 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 7: Premiere premiere. I mean, they flowers are there, blah blah blah. 673 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 7: They can in Mark andris whatever they've got. 674 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 6: They've got pieces. 675 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 7: It doesn't need to be Premier premiere because that team 676 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 7: is going to want to run. 677 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: We know that. 678 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 7: So as long as they can sort out their O 679 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 7: line and just get a little bit better and that 680 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 7: secondary gives them help to Kyle Hamilton. Now that you 681 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 7: have the front much more taken care of, I think 682 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 7: things are going to look a lot different because you know, 683 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 7: Jesse Miner wants to call a defense like you know, 684 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 7: in the same way that in the Ravens model, Right, 685 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 7: they want that. They want Kyle Hamilton to be the 686 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 7: center fielder to take care of everything with the pass 687 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 7: rush to support it. You saw what happened when Mike 688 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 7: McDonald was able to rush without having to blitz. Yeah, 689 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not suggesting that's the reason they won 690 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 7: the Super Bowl. 691 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: But it's a. 692 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 7: Huge factor when you can play Nichole can live exactly, 693 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 7: when you can live in nickel and dime and still 694 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 7: get you know, we had like six different players with 695 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 7: you know, thirty five sacks a piece, like no other 696 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 7: team had that. Like that's crazy, that's a crazy number. 697 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 7: And it may not look like one guy getting all 698 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 7: the sacks. But they don't want to have to blitz. 699 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 7: They want to drop into coverage so that Jamar Chase 700 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 7: t Higgins, whoever happens to be playing for the Bengals 701 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 7: is not is accounted for. So I think that's what 702 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 7: that gives him the opportunity to do now. 703 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: The Rams also made a big move to get corner 704 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: Trent McDuffie from the Chiefs. They also resigned safety Cam 705 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: Curl to three year deal. Is this Rams team truly 706 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: the win now super Bowl favorite? That you feel with 707 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: Stafford kind of, he's definitely nearing the end of his career. 708 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 7: I think I think the West is going to be hard. 709 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 7: I don't like the division. I mean, I like, look 710 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 7: at the division, Like look at how many games San 711 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 7: Francisco one without any of their starters really. 712 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: I mean they had. 713 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 7: Christian McCaffrey and like a rotating cast of some of 714 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 7: the starters George Kittle for part of the year or whatever, 715 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 7: but like they didn't have anyone on defense. They're missing 716 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 7: Fred Warner, the thing, you know, Nick Bosa. There were 717 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 7: so many pieces missing, Like as much as I'd like 718 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 7: to say, like, I think that the Rams are going 719 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 7: to be good, but I think the NFC West is 720 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 7: going to be really hard. And I don't know if 721 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 7: I think sometimes that can be a problem because if 722 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 7: you're not you know, I don't. I think people under 723 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 7: like undervalue the like the way that the cadence of 724 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 7: the season plays out. Sometimes rest is good, meaning a bye. 725 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 7: Sometimes it's not. But I can tell you going on 726 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 7: the road in the playoffs that is harder. So I 727 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 7: think there's certainly a playoff team. But am I willing 728 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 7: to crown them as my super Bowl champs? 729 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: No? 730 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 2: Who are your super Bowl champs? Real quick before we 731 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 2: let you go? 732 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 7: That's a great question. I haven't done it yet. I 733 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 7: always wait till after. I mean free agency. I think 734 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 7: this is going to be the wildest free agency we've seen. 735 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 7: I think quarterbacks are going to move around, So it's 736 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 7: very hard to say based on I just think, I mean, 737 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 7: we already know Kyler Murray's gone. They say they're not 738 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 7: getting rid of to. 739 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 2: Us, but is that true? 740 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 8: Right? 741 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 7: Like do we like they tis? They don't know us 742 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 7: the truth? So you know, we need to see where 743 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 7: who's actually playing on which team and then we can 744 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 7: make a decision about who wins the Super Bowl. 745 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: That's fair, Cynthia. I can't wait to see all your coverage. 746 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 2: Free Agency Frenzy starts next week. You're gonna be talking 747 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: about on NFL Network, Numbers Game, NFL IQ follow Cynthia. 748 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 2: She is the best out there. We appreciate you always. Thanks, 749 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: Thank you guys, love you, I have you all right. 750 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna take quick break here. When we come back. 751 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 2: It is the dues and the don'ts in sports. 752 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: Please. 753 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome back to 754 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitally. 755 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from Los Angeles. Thank you for 756 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 2: spending your Saturday afternoon with carme and me. 757 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: With the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us wherever you are. 758 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: Catch us and all of our Fox Sports Radio shows 759 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: live twenty four to seven in the new and improved 760 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: iHeart app. Just search Fox Sports Radio in the app. 761 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: Stream us live all day, every day, and be sure 762 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: to select Fox Sports Radio is one of your presets 763 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: in iHeart app, so it always pops up at the 764 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: top of your screen. Again, just search Fox Sports Radio 765 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: in the iHeartRadio app. 766 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, guys, it is time for the 767 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: dues and the don'ts in sports. 768 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 5: Highlighting the duh. 769 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 6: I love that putting a spotlight on the don't. 770 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: The subject brings me no joy. 771 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: That's insane. 772 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 6: It's time for the dues and the don'ts in sports. 773 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: All right, karmee. I'm gonna start with a do do 774 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 2: take care of your fans. The Saint Louis Cardinals are 775 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: introducing a twenty nine dollars ticket package that includes unlimited concessions. 776 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 2: You guys, that means bottomless soda, unlimited hot dogs, chicken tenders, brats, fries, peanuts, nachos, popcorn, 777 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: and ice cream. All I hear is so I think 778 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: you should leave fifty vi burgers, fifty five fries, fifty 779 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 2: five buggets. But also like making sports and live events 780 00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 2: more affordable in this way is such a smart strategy. Plus, 781 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 2: like you know, they're gonna like in their mind be like, well, 782 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 2: now that I'm saving all this money on food, I 783 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 2: should definitely buy more beer. And they're gonna sell so 784 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 2: much more booze because of this ticket package. 785 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: Especially because they're gonna be thirsty with all of the 786 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: hot dogs, the chicken, like like all of that. I Like, 787 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: there are other there are definitely other teams that do 788 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: this too, because, like me, it'sball is such a long 789 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: season and you've got to figure out ways to get 790 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: gets so like, but this is this is I think 791 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: everybody at all of the major especially in North American sports, 792 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: can like get on board still like this because the 793 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons have been doing this when since they opened 794 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: there's new stadium there, since they open Mercedes Benz Stadium, 795 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: all of their concessions are very very reasonably priced. And 796 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: they did that on purpose because of the fact that, 797 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: like you're already paying so much for the ticket in 798 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: football in particular, and it's like you're getting these deals 799 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: with concession dealers and and this that the other the 800 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: only the only issue I actually have with Mercedes Benz 801 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: Stadium is that they have a Chick fil A inside it. 802 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: But how often they're not open on Sundays? 803 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 2: Dude? Yeah, well because chickle A is not open, I know, 804 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: but not even in the stadium. 805 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: But not even in the stadium when like most of 806 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: the things that are played in that stadium are played 807 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: on a Sunday. So that's my one. That's my one 808 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: gripe with Atlanta, although I will say their press box 809 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: stuff is excellent. Softcer a softcer with a topics are 810 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, like that's that's such an easy way I 811 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: feel like to get people to just enjoy themselves and 812 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: potentially spend more money. 813 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 2: Exactly. 814 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: All right, I've got one and it's gonna get be 815 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,959 Speaker 1: the no surprize to anybody. Do bring a little piece 816 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: of home with you, huh. Team Italy has an espresso 817 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: machine and they're dugout at the World Baseball and classic 818 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: coffee is a way of life, said Italy manager of 819 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: Francisco Servalley. It's hysterical all of the stuff coming out. 820 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Team Italy just one eight nothing, I believe 821 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: over Brazil in Houston. And it's one of those things 822 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: where like you've we've seen all of these clips now 823 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: of players come into the dugout after hitting like three 824 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: run hovers and shooting espresso to the head. It's so 825 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: funny too, because like there's such a so in Italy 826 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: when you say I want a coffee, they'll get you 827 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: espresso immediately because that's what Italians think of coffee. What 828 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 1: it is, That's what it is. And like there's also 829 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: no limit to like people here. I feel like, like, oh, 830 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, I've already had too cups coffee. 831 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 2: I can't have a morning in the afternoon. 832 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: You have to, you have to, like you there's a 833 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: departure from how you have to think about coffee when 834 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: you're talking about Italians and Italian coffee. Like I don't 835 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: drink coffee. I don't actually really like coffee that much. No, 836 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: I don't. I drink tea in the morning. 837 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 2: I have well I remember that. 838 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: Highly caffeinated tea. Yeah, but I have espresso. A I 839 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: have espress martini, but I have espresso at Like when 840 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: I go out to eat, I always order an espresso 841 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: after the meal because I've always known it. I've been 842 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: drinking it since I was like ten, because it's a 843 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: it's a digestive and it's just kind of part of 844 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: what you do. 845 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm going to get this one in real quick. 846 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: It's doo lean into your culture. There is an Italian 847 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 2: wrestler who throws pizza pies at his opponents. 848 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: Yep. 849 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 2: Luisgi Primo is a professional pizza wrettler who performs as 850 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 2: part of the World Wrestling League represents US Pizza Team. 851 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 2: His entire wrestling character is built around pizza. During matches, 852 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 2: he tosses pizza dough, rolls it out with body slams 853 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 2: and hip tosses, tops it off with elbow drops, and 854 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 2: finishes his opponents with a pizza cutter move. If you 855 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 2: haven't seen this, like, look it up. 856 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: It is clearly the algorithm showed me this. 857 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 2: Okay, good, I was like, you did see this? 858 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: Of course I saw that. It's like my algorithm is 859 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: just like it was so good. 860 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 2: I was hysterically laughing this week. That was absolutely beautiful. 861 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 2: All right, guys, when we come back, we are headed 862 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 2: to the quarterback market. Plus we got more NFL blockbuster trades. 863 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 864 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 6: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 865 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here. 866 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 2: With Carmen Vitally coming to you live from the Fox 867 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios in Los Angeles. Thank you for spending 868 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 2: your Saturday afternoon with KRMEI and me. A last hour, 869 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 2: we hit a couple of the big trades. We hit 870 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: the Max Crosby to the Ravens, Trent mcduffy to the Rams. 871 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna get to a couple more this hour. But 872 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 2: I also need to say Happy World Baseball Classic to 873 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: all who celebrate. We've already had some incredible moments. Shoho 874 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 2: Tani just putting on a show in Japan. He's had 875 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 2: multiple home runs, including a Grand Slim. He's a batty 876 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 2: eight thirty three Karmi eight thirty three with an obs 877 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 2: of two point a five seven like this, like he 878 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:35,879 Speaker 2: is just. 879 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: Can we keep that up when it comes time? Yes? 880 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 2: Yes, But it's also like in Japan in the Tokyo 881 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 2: Dome going hamm. Team USA also set the tone with 882 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 2: Aaron Judge Homer last night, but they ended up ended 883 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 2: up winning fifteen five over Brazil. They played Great Britain 884 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: today at five pm on Fox. But what I love 885 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 2: about the WBC Karmi is that like m MLB players 886 00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 2: don't get to play in the Olympics, so this is 887 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 2: their big tournament to be able to represent their country. 888 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 2: And when I covered the last one, every player shared 889 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 2: how much bigger these games felt and how much more 890 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 2: meant to be able to, you know, wear your flag 891 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 2: on your jersey, and we've seen that at world events 892 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 2: and this is kind of their only real place to 893 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 2: do that and to have that feeling. But you also 894 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 2: see like incredible future moments like last night, a seventeen 895 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 2: year old, you guys, a high school senior on Team Brazil, 896 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 2: Joseph Contreras, son of World Series champ jose Contreras got 897 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 2: out Aaron Judge with bases loaded, and you're just like, wait, 898 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 2: excuse me. This is a high school senior. He's still 899 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 2: in high school and he's in this moment right now. Wild. 900 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: I think like, if we've learned anything from the Winter 901 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: Olympics this year too, like allowing NHL players back into 902 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,439 Speaker 1: the Olympics, it makes it's almost like it's so much 903 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,479 Speaker 1: better when you just get the best of the best 904 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: from every corner of the world getting to participate for 905 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: their country, and especially in a game that is as 906 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: international as baseball, as like, yeah, he's very Internet national too. 907 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: You know, you have guys from all literally all over 908 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: the globe that play in the NHL. Same with Major 909 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,959 Speaker 1: League Baseball. You have guys from all over the world 910 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: that are now playing in this game or like in 911 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: the in the league. And I just think that, like, 912 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: there's no I don't think there's a downside to having that, Like, 913 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: I just I really we need to learn from that, 914 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: right what I think? 915 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 2: Right, I think baseball is even more of an international 916 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 2: game than hockey. I mean, there's going to be a 917 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 2: lot of changes coming up in the new bargaining agreement 918 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 2: at the end of this. 919 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: Season, for like we may only we may have to 920 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 1: go back to like a global tournament. We're not going 921 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 1: to get. 922 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 2: Who knows, Like we're definitely like there is going to be, Yeah, 923 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 2: we're not going to get the normal start of the 924 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 2: season next year once everything, yeah gets to which. 925 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: Makes it easier to stomach when you talk about starting 926 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 1: you know, all this competition early before the season really 927 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 1: gets going. It's obviously in the middle of spring training 928 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: and all of that other stuff. It's like, well, you 929 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: guys might not have to even do spring training. 930 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 2: Dude, So wild wild, all right, Let's get back to 931 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 2: the NFL, though, right now, because this week, even though 932 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 2: nothing's official yet, obviously none of these trades become official 933 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 2: until Wednesday next week, the official new league year. In 934 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 2: the NFL, we talked about Max Crosby to the Ravens, 935 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 2: the Raiders getting all that draft capital, the Rams in 936 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 2: the Chiefs with McDuffie. Let's move to the Bills and 937 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 2: your Bears, because the Bears sent wide receiver DJ Moore 938 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 2: and a fifth round pick to the Bills for a 939 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 2: second round pick. Now, funny, how like so many first 940 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 2: reactions were like, so does that make AJ Brown a 941 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 2: first round pick? Like that's just kind of like first 942 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,919 Speaker 2: kind of thought that came to head. But DJ Moore 943 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 2: wasn't the Bears top target Colson love Loveland, their tight end, 944 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 2: but he was. He was an asset right like not peak, 945 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 2: not peak of his game, but he's still a great player. 946 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,720 Speaker 1: He was he was supposed to be like the Bears 947 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,439 Speaker 1: number one receiver and he was in the Bear's number 948 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: one receiver the year before, and like he's been. What 949 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: DJ Moore has done and what DJ Moore's superpower is 950 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 1: is that he has been productive no matter who was 951 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: throwing him the ball. Yes, we saw that in Carolina, 952 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: we saw that in Chicago as well, and so this 953 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: year he was a little bit less productive, but it 954 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: was because the Bears had more weapons. So it was 955 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 1: one of those like problems that you want to have. 956 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: It was it was Champagne problems, right, and it was. 957 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 2: Like he was having coach like there was a new 958 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 2: system in place, like I have a. 959 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: Plethora of other people too that you're trying to share 960 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: the ball like you're that Caleb Williams was trying to 961 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: distribute the ball. And so from a from an on 962 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: field standpoint, I think that DJ Moore's skill set became 963 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: a little bit redundant. As much as he understood this 964 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: game very very well, he understood what every single receiving 965 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 1: like spot needed to do on any given play. Like 966 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,439 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson was very very complimentary about what DJ Moore did. 967 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 1: From a mental standpoint, and then from a lot room standpoint, 968 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: he was the veteran in that room, and it's a 969 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: very young room when you talk about guys like Romadonza 970 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 1: Luther Burden, who was their draft pick last year, like 971 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,720 Speaker 1: this is this is a young unit that really needed 972 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 1: a veteran presence, and now that's what DJ Moore provided, 973 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: but now with Luthor Burden, like Luther Burden is essentially 974 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: the guy that can play all this all the different 975 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: receiver spots. Roma Dunsay is who you hope turns into 976 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: your X receiver, your guy that can just be that 977 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: outside threat, go up for those fifty to fifty balls 978 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: stuff like that. And then you've got Colton Leblin, who 979 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: is a phenomenal white like receiving tight end. He's like 980 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: he's as natural as anything and became a safety blanket 981 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,359 Speaker 1: for the Williams over this last season, just as Ben 982 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: Johnson wanted him to. On top of the fact that 983 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's scheme is very, very run heavy, and so 984 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: there's just not there just wasn't a whole lot of 985 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: room for a guy like DJ Moore, who was also 986 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: making the most of any Bears receiver ever by the way, 987 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: like that was the most the Bears had ever paid 988 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, and so at that point you're like, 989 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: all right, you can afford to offload it. And from 990 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: everything you know, I was at the combine listening to 991 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 1: GM Ryan Poles talk, listening to head coach Ben Johnson. 992 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 2: Talk, did you have a feeling, Well, yeah. 993 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: Everybody did pretty much. So Ben Ben and Ryan both said, like, 994 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, with success, we're gonna have to start making 995 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: some really tough decisions. And so we were all like, okay, 996 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 1: so DJ's gone. Yeah, and Tremaine Edmonds also their linebacker 997 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 1: was released as well to clear some cap space, so 998 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 1: to offload DJ's contract. And then like everybody was okay 999 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: with that regardless, and then when you see the return. 1000 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: What really shocked me about all of this was the return. 1001 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: I did not think I thought DJ's I thought it 1002 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: capped out at like four. I tapped out at like 1003 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 1: a four. And to see him get it a two. 1004 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: As soon as that comes out. I was talking with 1005 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 1: Roddy about this just just at the start of the show. 1006 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, as soon as you hear we'll give 1007 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: you a second rounder. If you're Ryan Poles, you're saying, yep, 1008 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: done deal, handshake you can't not take back. But like 1009 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 1: we got and so I think that this is this, 1010 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: this is a scenario. Warelessen, like DJ Moore is going 1011 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: to go down in infamy as a guy that produced 1012 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: some incredible moments for the Chicago Bears. But I think 1013 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,399 Speaker 1: everybody was okay to see him go okay and what 1014 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: the best for him. I hope that I hope that 1015 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: Buffalo is not done adding to that wide receiver room 1016 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 1: because I don't definitely. 1017 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 2: But I think it was a good move for that 1018 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 2: at all, right, because they needed another top target for 1019 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 2: Josh Allen. Like if I don't have the potential to 1020 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 2: be a good number want the wide receiver, and it's. 1021 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: I don't think he is a number one ride receiver. 1022 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 1: And that's my only hesitation with the Bills is that 1023 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 1: I don't think he is a number one ride receiver. 1024 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: He's not a guy that's big that's going to go 1025 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: up for fifty to fifty balls. It's going to be 1026 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 1: that outside threat that you really need. If you will 1027 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: have Josh Allen throwing the football. Yeah, that's supposed to 1028 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: be Keon Coleman, but that relationship between the Bills and 1029 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: Keon Coleman has soured and you don't know if it's redeemable. 1030 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: So I hope they're not done. But this is definitely 1031 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: a good piece to add because of the versatility that 1032 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: Dj Moore brings. But the Bills still need that outside 1033 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 1: threat Yeah. 1034 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,720 Speaker 2: I mean again, we've talked about make or break seasons. 1035 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 2: I think this is one for the Bills. They fired 1036 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,399 Speaker 2: their head coach, Sean McDermott, promoted their OC to head 1037 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 2: coach and Joe Brady. And the good news for Joe 1038 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,879 Speaker 2: Brady when he was OC and Carolina in twenty twenty 1039 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 2: twenty one, DJ Moore was on that team and he 1040 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 2: had over eleven hundred yards in both those seasons. So 1041 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 2: they're comfortable, They're familiar with each other, and they kind 1042 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 2: of have to do anything in everything this season to 1043 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 2: get Josh Allen to a super Bowl because it's Super 1044 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 2: Bowl or bus mentality for the Bills. 1045 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is part of it for sure. There's 1046 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: some stuff defensively too. They also just today or yesterday 1047 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: today Connor mcgoverern they extended their center with which the 1048 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: Center market is very very interesting in something and I'm 1049 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: paying a ton of attention to given the fact that 1050 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: the Bear Center just surprise or time. Yeah, although I 1051 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 1: had a week heads up on that and it was 1052 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: still like it was like a oh, but the Bears 1053 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 1: are trying to convince him not to so I didn't 1054 00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 1: know if it was going to go through yet it 1055 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: goes through. Uh, very very happy for him from a 1056 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: human element, but it's hard out here if you need 1057 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: a center. So the Bills locking that up with Connor 1058 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: McGovern is it signals to me like you still need 1059 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: a little bit more help along that offensive line, and 1060 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 1: again you still need some weapons for Josh Allen. You 1061 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: still have a couple of little holes on like defensively 1062 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 1: and but then like you're you're a lot closer I 1063 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 1: think now, and you're showing a willingness to go out 1064 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,439 Speaker 1: and get some dudes, which Joe Brady, now that he's 1065 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: been handed the reins, he also like to borrow a 1066 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 1: phrase from Cynthia, like you want He also wants to 1067 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: make his mark. Yeah you have to, so he has 1068 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: to say, this is my impression, this is my team, now, 1069 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: this is what I'm going to do. This is this 1070 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: is how I'm going to do something differently, because otherwise, 1071 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: why did you fire Sean McDermott. Yeah, so there has 1072 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 1: to be some difference now, and it's this is showing 1073 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: kind of a willingness to go out and do that. 1074 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 1: So I think it was I think it was a 1075 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,760 Speaker 1: good for both sides, For both sides, I really. 1076 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a This was a pretty equal solid trade. 1077 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 2: Let's move to the Lions in Texans, because the Lions 1078 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 2: sent or sending as of Wednesday, we think David Montgomery 1079 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 2: did the Texans for a juice scrugs o lineman, a 1080 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 2: second round pick, a fourth round of this year and 1081 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 2: a seventh round next year. 1082 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a ton This This is again like 1083 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 1: highway robbery. 1084 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,439 Speaker 2: It was hard. 1085 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean, David Montgomery is a great player, don't get 1086 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 1: me wrong. Yes, It's interesting to me though, because I 1087 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 1: think the reason that we think of David Montgomery as 1088 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 1: being so good, especially with the Lions, is because he 1089 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 1: had the compliment of Jamiir Gibbs. So David Montgomery didn't 1090 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,879 Speaker 1: have to be the guy because Jamiir Gibbs did all 1091 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: sorts of things and they were nicknamed Sonic and Knuckles 1092 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: because of their complimentary skill sets, and so like to 1093 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: pay this much for a guy that hasn't been the guy, well. 1094 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, his production kind of slumped a bit, Like, but 1095 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 2: that's also because Jamiir Gibbs was a clear number one 1096 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 2: last year. 1097 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 1: Yes, And I mean, like that's the thing is like 1098 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: David Montgomery didn't have to be again, did not have 1099 00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,760 Speaker 1: to be the guy. He was the north South runner. 1100 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: He is the guy that you know got those actually 1101 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 1: those in those short yardage situations. He was the one 1102 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 1: that just kind of bowling balled through the middle of 1103 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: the formation. And like you have like like in Houston 1104 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: now like he is expected to be the guy. You 1105 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot around it. 1106 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 2: Well, they but they also had they had Joe mix in, 1107 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,280 Speaker 2: but mixed all of last season with the foot injury. 1108 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 2: You're still unsure what his future looks at. 1109 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 1: Are going to let him go? If you're Houston, are 1110 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: they going to let him know? 1111 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 2: They're not going to keep him as like a like 1112 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:34,720 Speaker 2: a one two punch. 1113 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of that's what you know, Twitter 1114 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 1: is to be believed in this that the other A 1115 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,399 Speaker 1: lot of people are speculating that, yeah, like that that's 1116 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: not going to be part of the mix anymore. So 1117 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: there they have a fourth round pick in Woody Marks 1118 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 1: that is not in like Nick Chubb, but I believe 1119 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: he's a free agent. So there's like, well there's there's 1120 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: essentially you're asking Dave Montgomery to be the guy. Yeah, 1121 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: and he hasn't had to be the guy since he 1122 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 1: was in Chicago and so paying that much for him. 1123 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: I think everybody like when when that trade came down, 1124 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 1: it was like, well, Lions got the better end of 1125 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: that deal for sure, especially because they still have Jamiir 1126 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: Gibbs and you can make up for the lack of production. 1127 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna lose with David Montgomery a lot easier than 1128 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,960 Speaker 1: you could if you were like to have lost Jamiir 1129 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: Gibbs or someone like that. So I think that that 1130 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: absolutely the Lions got the better end of that deal, 1131 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: even what we just talked about with the Bears and 1132 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: the Bills, Like, yeah, it was a good it was 1133 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: a good move, but like the Bears still ended up 1134 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 1: on the better end of that deal, just with the 1135 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 1: compensation that they ended up getting valuable. 1136 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 2: It's interesting because it's like you place the value on 1137 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 2: a player based on the draft capital you're going to get, 1138 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 2: and if they believe that he can still be there, 1139 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 2: he can be that number one guy, like then that 1140 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 2: valuable to their team. That's worth what they gave up. 1141 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,959 Speaker 2: You know, It's that's tough. Okay. I want to switch 1142 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 2: gears though, and I want to talk about what's going 1143 00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,200 Speaker 2: on in Minnesota because you cover the Vikings for a 1144 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 2: long time, right Vikings. There's been a lot of movement 1145 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 2: going on here. Their VP of Football Operations also their 1146 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 2: interim GM, so they are exploring every opportunity with their 1147 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 2: quarterback situation, and there have been reports that they're looking 1148 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 2: to pick up a veteran quarterback to compete with JJ McCarthy. 1149 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 2: And that's saying a lot without actually saying what you mean, 1150 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 2: which what I take from it is JJ is not 1151 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,720 Speaker 2: your future. You can also tell, obviously by firing everyone 1152 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 2: that they have that they feel like they messed up, 1153 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 2: not keeping Sam Darnold, even Daniel Jones. They had a 1154 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 2: lot of great options that went on to thrive, and 1155 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 2: they're kind of living in that reactionary period of life 1156 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,720 Speaker 2: of well, look we could have had that and we didn't, 1157 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 2: and we messed up, So now we got to punish 1158 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 2: everybody who didn't make that happen. Read between the lines 1159 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,479 Speaker 2: for me, What do you see what's going on here? 1160 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:04,439 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I letting firing quays a dopamensa after 1161 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 1: Sam Donald gets the Super Bowl. It's just like I 1162 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: try to follow people for team's actions rather than what 1163 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: they say, because to me, that signified, yeah, you're just 1164 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: reacting to this. You're like, oh, Sam Donald got them 1165 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,720 Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl and won them a Super Bowl, 1166 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: and we let him out the door. But at the time, 1167 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,359 Speaker 1: when you let Sam Donald out the door, it made 1168 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: all the sense in the world. It was theoretically a 1169 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 1: good decision because you had invested a first round pick 1170 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: in JJ McCarthy. He suffered the injury, you thought, Okay, 1171 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 1: he's going to get a red shirt. Ear, he's going 1172 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 1: to come back, he's going to know the scheme really 1173 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 1: well from a mental standpoint, and he's gonna be able 1174 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: to hit the ground running in his second ear. You 1175 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 1: don't need to pay for a high end backup necessarily 1176 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,280 Speaker 1: because he's supposed to be the guy and we believe 1177 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:49,879 Speaker 1: in him because we drafted him in the first round. 1178 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: And then when that goes to hell, you're like, well, okay, 1179 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 1: this didn't work in hindsight's twenty twenty. But I don't 1180 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 1: think it's necessarily. I think there were reasons perhaps, like 1181 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 1: you know, the the draft classes that Questia Doha Menza 1182 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: had brought in hadn't performed very well that you didn't 1183 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 1: have Pro Bowl players in there. This that the other 1184 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,360 Speaker 1: you had cause to let him go, but the way 1185 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 1: in which you let him go, and when you let 1186 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 1: him go, let me know that you were reacting to 1187 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,399 Speaker 1: the fact that Sam Darnold won a Super Bowl. And 1188 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,760 Speaker 1: that's not a way to do business, especially because now 1189 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,359 Speaker 1: in the most important time of year, you essentially don't 1190 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: have a GM like they did. They elevated their pro 1191 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 1: personnel guy, and like you're essentially entering into like a 1192 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 1: half rebuild, but you don't actually have a guy in 1193 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 1: charge of that, and so there does that seem to 1194 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: be a comprehensive plan, And then things like you let 1195 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: go of John Allen because of the salary cap constraints. 1196 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: You're like, you started this whole process forty six million 1197 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 1: dollars over the cap, so like somehow you don't have 1198 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: the talent other than Justin Jefferson on your team, but 1199 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 1: you're oh the cap and you don't have a GM. 1200 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,280 Speaker 1: It's just an absolute mess. And then you hear things 1201 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 1: like they're also open to trading Jonathan Grenard, who is 1202 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 1: arguably one of their best defensive players. And the reason 1203 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: that a lot of this happens for for Brian Flores 1204 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: and his defensive scheme. You're just I'm I'm I'm tripping 1205 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 1: over myself because like nothing makes sense with what the 1206 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 1: what the vikings are doing. And this is what happens 1207 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: when you have a lot of friction I think inside 1208 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 1: the building and you have a lot of like just 1209 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: dissent in general. Who's really in charge? You don't have 1210 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: a clear picture of that anymore. You had your center retired, 1211 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly, he retired, Aaron Jones, Javon Hargrave, those guys 1212 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: are all gone just to clear some cap space, and 1213 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 1: you still don't have a real good answer at quarterback. 1214 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 1: Because I'm with you, Alex, I don't think they believe 1215 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 1: in J. J. Mllerthy. 1216 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 2: Now there's there, they're saying. They're saying what they feel 1217 00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 2: without actually saying it. 1218 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: With the lead me to believe that they wouldn't have 1219 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: fired their GM if they thought that Sam Darnold won 1220 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, but they had their guy. 1221 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, Okay, we're on the same page. We're 1222 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 2: gonna take a quick break here when we come back, though, 1223 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 2: we didn't get to our quarterback marketplace because there's gonna 1224 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 2: be so many quarterbacks on the move next week. We're 1225 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 2: going to dive into that. Next you're listening to Fox 1226 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Welcome back to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm Alex 1227 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 2: Curry here with Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending your 1228 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon with us. 1229 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: And for the best pregame show every weekend. Be sure 1230 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 1: to tune into Fox Sports Radio is Countdown presented by 1231 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,919 Speaker 1: bet MGM Every Saturday and Sunday morning from nine am 1232 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: to noon Eastern sixty nine am Pacific. We will count 1233 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 1: you down to all the biggest games of the weekend. 1234 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 1: Tune into Countdown presented by bet MGM, every Saturday and 1235 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 1: Sunday morning right here on Fox Sports Radio and the 1236 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. 1237 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 2: All right, guys, next week the quarterback shuffle is gonna 1238 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 2: be so real. There are gonna be a lot of names, 1239 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 2: a lot of guys on the move, going to be available. 1240 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 2: Where do we think they're going to end up? What 1241 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 2: are the situations? 1242 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 1: Uh? 1243 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 2: The one that like officially became official last week, Kyler Murray. 1244 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 2: He was told he was going to be released on 1245 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 2: March eleventh. He already put out a statement thanking Arizona 1246 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 2: their former first overall pick in the twenty nineteen draft. 1247 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 2: That whole situation is is tough. I think he'll have a. 1248 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 1: Market, Yeah, Pik, you'll have the last market. 1249 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 2: He's definitely going to have the Cardinals still. Oh, Kyler 1250 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 2: thirty six point eight million in twenty twenty six, meaning 1251 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 2: whatever team signs him will get him for the league 1252 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,920 Speaker 2: minimum of one point three million dollars. 1253 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's no downside, Steel, There's no downside. No, 1254 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: and taking a shot with Kyler, who has the most 1255 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 1: starting experience, he is pretty much like provided that, like 1256 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,959 Speaker 1: you know, Kirk Cousins, you know Smith, like if Tua 1257 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 1: becomes available, like we can revisit that conversation. But as 1258 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: of right now, Kyler Murray's still has the potential to 1259 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 1: be a starter in this league, and he's going to 1260 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 1: cost league MI amount to go get So I think 1261 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 1: there's a ton of teams that will be in the 1262 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 1: running for his services. 1263 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 2: As they should. So a couple of the big names 1264 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 2: that I think are going to be that we know 1265 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 2: we're gonna be available. Malik Willis, Packer's backup did great 1266 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 2: when Jordan Love was out. He's going to be a 1267 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 2: free agent. Kirk Cousins, Uh, we think Tua is going 1268 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 2: to be released pending a trade feels it just. 1269 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 1: I don't think Miami's holding on to him. 1270 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 2: They shouldn't. But it's also like Tua's tough. If you're 1271 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,880 Speaker 2: a team looking to pick him up because of it will. 1272 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 1: Be Conversely to Kyler Murray, I don't think there is 1273 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: going to be much of a market for two A 1274 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 1: because I just don't think that you can count on 1275 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: time bomb. 1276 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 2: It's one more major concussion, and. 1277 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 1: Especially like for him, there aren't I can't think of 1278 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 1: any situations or any teams that need quarterbacks that I 1279 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: feel good about their offensive lines. 1280 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 2: Oh that's what that's the biggest thing. Like if you 1281 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 2: pick them up, is he going to get protected, because 1282 01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 2: if it's not, he's going to be out in the 1283 01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 2: first couple of games. 1284 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, I don't think there's gonna be much more, 1285 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 1: especially when you consider too Like all right, so another 1286 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 1: name too is Daniel Jones, who the Colts place the 1287 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: transition tag on, But that doesn't prevent anybody from offering 1288 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 1: him or from him seeking out other deals. 1289 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 2: It just like Anthony richards Able. 1290 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 1: To Anthony Richardson, I don't think is there's not a market, 1291 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 1: not in the way that there is for Daniel Jones. 1292 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones got like. 1293 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 2: God, I think they're gonna let him go. They're gonna 1294 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 2: let him. They have to if they're if there, they 1295 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 2: have to. 1296 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 1: If so, there's the there's a franchise tag on Daniel 1297 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:32,960 Speaker 1: Jones right now by the Colts. That is not the 1298 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: same as a regular or a transition tag. It's not 1299 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: the same as the franchise tag. The transition tag means 1300 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: that he is still able to test the free agency 1301 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 1: market and then they have the opportunity to match that. 1302 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 1: But if he gets offered a deal that the Colts 1303 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 1: aren't willing to match, then he's he is out. 1304 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 2: So you think it's dangerous. It's a dangerous move. 1305 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 1: Us, especially when you consider that the Colts chose to 1306 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 1: do that instead of tag Alec Pierce, their number one 1307 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver, who seems like interviews and stuff, that he 1308 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 1: wants to test free agency. Now, yeah, maybe they did 1309 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 1: that because they felt that they were closer to getting 1310 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: a deal done with Alec Pierce. We haven't seen that 1311 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,680 Speaker 1: deal deal materialize yet, and it seems again that Alec 1312 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 1: Peerce wants to test free agency. So now you could 1313 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 1: be in a situation if you're the Indianapolis Colts where 1314 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 1: you're losing both Daniel Jones, who had a seven to 1315 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: one record at one point in this season for you 1316 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 1: and your number one weapon, which is Alec Pierce, and 1317 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 1: that it would be catastrophic for what the Colts have 1318 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 1: been able to do and like the strides they've been 1319 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: able to make. So I think Daniel Jones is a 1320 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 1: really interesting topic and I think he's it's a really 1321 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 1: interesting like I'm very interesting with what ends up happening 1322 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:39,440 Speaker 1: with him. 1323 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 2: You heard anything from like his team and his side. 1324 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 2: Was he happy in India? I mean they brought him 1325 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 2: in last year to have that competition with Anthony Richards. 1326 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 2: He ended up winning that quarterback competition. Then I think 1327 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 2: it's out. 1328 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 1: Of Daniel Jones's hands at this point just because of 1329 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 1: the fact that he's dealing with the injury and so 1330 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: like he had the fracture, the achilles thing, like that's 1331 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 1: that's all it's gonna take me. 1332 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 2: Well, like when could he be back realistically, I. 1333 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 1: Don't, I don't really, I don't really know. He could 1334 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: be ready to go, I think for that, but like 1335 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 1: that's a pickle injury you never want to do whatever, 1336 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 1: But he's also not forty years old like Aaron Rudgers 1337 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 1: was when he tore his achilles, so and same with 1338 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 1: he's not even his oldest Kirk Cousins was when he 1339 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 1: tore his achilles. So I'm very interest to see like 1340 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 1: how that all materializes. But like justin fields, like is 1341 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 1: expected to be released by the Jets, Yep, there's there's 1342 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 1: going to be an interesting market while not being anything 1343 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,439 Speaker 1: to get overly excited about. I think if you're a team, 1344 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 1: I think taking a flyer on Kyler Murray is a 1345 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 1: no brainer. Weeds that or you don't. There's no risk 1346 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:42,320 Speaker 1: involved in that. 1347 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,919 Speaker 2: But these are big name quarterbacks, starting quarterbacks for franchises 1348 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 2: that it could be a great bridge for you, could 1349 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 2: be a great backup option. 1350 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,240 Speaker 1: But do these guys see themselves that way. 1351 01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 2: Definitely not, definitely not. But as this as we've seen 1352 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 2: in this league, you need to have a strong backup 1353 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 2: quarterback situation. It is the most important position on the 1354 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 2: team and we have had so many injuries the last 1355 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 2: few years that if you don't have a top tier 1356 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 2: backup situation like that could be it. 1357 01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you have to find that the sweet spot 1358 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 1: of a guy that is good enough to come in 1359 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: relief that it's not a huge drop off, isn't going 1360 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 1: to be start like Kirk Cousins is going to go 1361 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: after starting money. He's going to go after a starting jobs. 1362 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 2: He can if he can like realize that he is 1363 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 2: now in that veteran I am going to mentor you 1364 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,800 Speaker 2: and help you be the next big thing situation, I 1365 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 2: think he could land in a really good spot. He 1366 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 2: already made his big money. You did it. Now, if 1367 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 2: you want to go somewhere, yeah, if you want to 1368 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 2: go somewhere like, it's going to be the helpful mini bridge. Okay, 1369 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 2: Now let's check in with Martin Wise and see what's trending. 1370 01:04:59,160 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 5: In the NBA. 1371 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,440 Speaker 3: Hey, right now the Orlando Magic in the Minnesota Timberwolves. 1372 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 5: Orlando leads one. 1373 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,960 Speaker 3: Ten to eighty eight with about three minutes left in 1374 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. Pallo Banco had twenty five points, Desmond 1375 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 3: banged with thirty, Anthony Edwards are thirty four points, Dayton 1376 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Rudy Gobert with twelve. 1377 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,520 Speaker 5: Points, eight rebounds. 1378 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 3: And Men's college basketball, but about fifteen minutes left in 1379 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 3: the second half, Florida and Kentucky the fifth rank Gators 1380 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 3: making work of the Wildcats here fifty three to sixty 1381 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, fifty three to thirty six the score with. 1382 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 5: Against sixteen minutes left in the second half. Sixteen minutes left. 1383 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 3: In the second half again for Wisconsin and perdue the 1384 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 3: fifteenth rings boiler Makers. The Badgers in the lead though 1385 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 3: sixty one to sixty and with eleven minutes left in 1386 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 3: the second half, George Mason leeds Saint Louis sixty one 1387 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 3: to thirty nine. Earlier today we saw an upset Marquette 1388 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 3: upset fourth ranked Yukon sixty eight to sixty two. Danny 1389 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 3: Hurley got ejected in the final second of the game 1390 01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 3: from making contact with an official. In the NFL, Packers 1391 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,440 Speaker 3: have traded Kolby Wooden, the defensive tackle, to the Colts 1392 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 3: for linebackers I hear Franklin. 1393 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 5: Franklin led the league in tackles. 1394 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four, the Eagles defensive tackle Jordan Davis 1395 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,439 Speaker 3: agreed to terms a three year, seventy eight million dollar 1396 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 3: contract extension. It's the same deal with Connor McGovern and 1397 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 3: the Bills. This one's four years, fifty two million dollars, 1398 01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 3: with fifty to thirty two million guaranteed. The kicker of 1399 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,000 Speaker 3: Brandon Aubrey and the Cowboys unable to come to an 1400 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,080 Speaker 3: agreement on a long term contract extension, so the team 1401 01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 3: has moved on to a free agent tender at the 1402 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,920 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six league gear that these teams can offer 1403 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 3: him a contract and the Cowboys can match it. The 1404 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 3: Rams cornerback Darius Williams has retired after eight NFL seasons, 1405 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,919 Speaker 3: and last night the Boston Celtics got Jason Tatum back. However, 1406 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 3: they're going to lose backup sending Nikola Vucevich. 1407 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:48,840 Speaker 5: He'll be out for at least a month. 1408 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,040 Speaker 3: He fractured his ring finger when Chris Middleton came down 1409 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 3: hit him. 1410 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 5: Hit the ball. Growth back to you. 1411 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 2: Thank you, Martin. You're listening to Fox Sports Saturday. I'm 1412 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 2: Alex Career here with Carmen Vitally. Thank you for spending 1413 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 2: your Saturday afternoon with us. It is time for our 1414 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 2: next guest, senior NFL writer at the Athletic Jordan rod 1415 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 2: reg Thank you for joining the show. 1416 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 8: Hi ladies, it's so nice to be on with you today. 1417 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:12,320 Speaker 8: Thanks for having me. 1418 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Jorian, I'm so excited this day out 1419 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,880 Speaker 1: We've actually gotten to hang out quite a bit over 1420 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 1: the last couple of. 1421 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 2: Week you guys. 1422 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and Combine. We got to see each other, 1423 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,080 Speaker 1: although we didn't get to spend as much time at 1424 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,480 Speaker 1: Combine as I would have liked. But Hi, Jordan, how 1425 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 1: are you hi? 1426 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,640 Speaker 8: I'm doing well. Yeah, Combine. I was lurking for a 1427 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,440 Speaker 8: project on scouts that I just put out there for 1428 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 8: the Athletics. So, uh, Carmen and I know we have 1429 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,640 Speaker 8: sort of separate lurking hours when we're working on these products. 1430 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love I love the lurk vibe. 1431 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 2: I can't because I just like I call it the 1432 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,560 Speaker 2: creep Like I'm just like sitting and creeping, but like 1433 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 2: it's just lurking. 1434 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: Is another great My eyes are just like from my 1435 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,760 Speaker 1: notebook and stuff, they're just like starting all over the place. 1436 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 1: But I do if you let me start out, if 1437 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 1: you want to ask Jordan about that, particularly because all right, 1438 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,560 Speaker 1: so Jordan did this wonderful piece for the Athletic just 1439 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 1: about taking you inside what these scouting reports actually look like, 1440 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,000 Speaker 1: which is great because like it's one of those things 1441 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 1: too where you know, you talk to scout if you're 1442 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,680 Speaker 1: someone who talks to scouts, like Jordan is like, I 1443 01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 1: am like whatever, you hear these things, and you hear 1444 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 1: them talk about this stuff. Like I literally, right before 1445 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 1: this article came out, Jordan, I was talking to another 1446 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 1: he was actually an assistant coach in the NFC, and 1447 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,160 Speaker 1: he was telling me how they use fire emojis, palm 1448 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,600 Speaker 1: tree emojis, and ice cubes, and I just kind of 1449 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 1: like lapped it on and I was like, yeah, of 1450 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 1: course that makes sense. And then Jordan includes this in 1451 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,679 Speaker 1: her piece, and you see, like the entire Internet goes 1452 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 1: just like bananas to find out that these guys use 1453 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,640 Speaker 1: emojis as a really quick ways of evaluating guys. So 1454 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,599 Speaker 1: I just I want you to talk through just kind 1455 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,719 Speaker 1: of what that process was like and writing this piece 1456 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,280 Speaker 1: and kind of like identifying the things that because I'm 1457 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,040 Speaker 1: so bad at that, like thinking like, oh, yeah, I 1458 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 1: mean obviously that's a thing. Doesn't everybody know that? 1459 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,000 Speaker 2: And you're just you spell it out so well, Jordan, 1460 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:06,920 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 1461 01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:07,120 Speaker 5: Well. 1462 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 8: I had a blast reporting that because I love talking 1463 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 8: to people about how they do football essentially, and everybody 1464 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,400 Speaker 8: obviously has their own unique set of fingerprints on it. 1465 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,639 Speaker 8: Despite the fact that they're all evaluating the same exact 1466 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 8: goal of prospects, and so all of the data and 1467 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 8: all of the physical traits and all of the character assessments, 1468 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 8: they are weighed in so many different ways by all 1469 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,839 Speaker 8: of these teams, and of course they need a language 1470 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,760 Speaker 8: to communicate all of that with each other. And this 1471 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,640 Speaker 8: is not every team that does this, but there are 1472 01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 8: a lot of teams that one of the rising trends 1473 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 8: across these buildings, especially with the younger generation of GMS, 1474 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 8: although there was a senior GM that's some pretty creative emojis. 1475 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 8: I will say that it is a shorthand trend. So 1476 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:58,360 Speaker 8: whether it's symbols or letter tags they call some of 1477 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:02,600 Speaker 8: the pictures tags are emojis. To us, we're we're you know, 1478 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,840 Speaker 8: core millennials. We know these words. And so it's basically 1479 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 8: like how when a coach puts together an assortment of 1480 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:13,639 Speaker 8: different plays tagged with different categories and colors and numbers 1481 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,520 Speaker 8: and symbols, tagged with different code words for the quarterbacks, 1482 01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 8: that the offense knows exactly what the play is supposed 1483 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,680 Speaker 8: to look like right as they hear those words. It's 1484 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,759 Speaker 8: the same concepts carried over into scouting where you're tagging 1485 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,600 Speaker 8: it with certain symbols matter, a shared language and alphabet 1486 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,000 Speaker 8: within your team that's been created by your specific organization 1487 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,559 Speaker 8: over time, that you can paint a picture instantly of 1488 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,479 Speaker 8: what a prospect is and the many, many, many layers 1489 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 8: that all used to be, you know, thousands of words 1490 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 8: and a scouting report. Now it's happening very very fast 1491 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 8: and often digitally with these scouts, just to make the 1492 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,640 Speaker 8: process more efficient and to get them very much on 1493 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,519 Speaker 8: the same level of communication in the building. 1494 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 2: I love it so much. The world, all of us, 1495 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:59,520 Speaker 2: like every industry, is talking in emojis. But let's transition 1496 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 2: to the big blockbuster trade that broke last night, Max 1497 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 2: Crosby to the Ravens. How shocked were you by the 1498 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 2: Ravens making this move and how much will he transform 1499 01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 2: Baltimore's defense? 1500 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,879 Speaker 8: I was. I was a little surprised that it was Baltimore, honestly, 1501 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 8: because Baltimore has been very i would say conservative over 1502 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 8: the last several years in terms of the moves that 1503 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 8: it actually will make, particularly in free agency, and it 1504 01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 8: was very clear that they badly needed pass rush help. 1505 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,479 Speaker 8: They have struggled with that for two seasons at this point, 1506 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,679 Speaker 8: but they just haven't been a team that has done 1507 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,440 Speaker 8: a lot of those types of signings or trades, particularly 1508 01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,680 Speaker 8: when they involved first round picks. And I have to 1509 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 8: think that this is jim Eric DaCosta not only saying, 1510 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,760 Speaker 8: you know, we are in our contention window and we 1511 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 8: have to get Lamar to the super Bowl while we 1512 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 8: have him in his prime. 1513 01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but also. 1514 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,960 Speaker 8: This is the new era of the Baltimore Ravens. This 1515 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,200 Speaker 8: is a new coach, this is a new type of 1516 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:03,400 Speaker 8: team build and model that they are basically making a 1517 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:07,840 Speaker 8: massive statement toward where it was often a very fundamental 1518 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 8: and very good draft and developed team. They've struggled with 1519 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,599 Speaker 8: a lot of the players that they've tried to put 1520 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 8: in key roles, especially in that pass rush, and I'd 1521 01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 8: say a lot of those guys on the offensive line 1522 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,760 Speaker 8: as well. And now they have to really make this 1523 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 8: statement and say this is the team we're going to 1524 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,600 Speaker 8: be moving forwards because we have the quarterback in his 1525 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,439 Speaker 8: prime playing at an MVP caliber. 1526 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,559 Speaker 1: It's interesting. We talked to Cynthia freelan last hour and 1527 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:35,520 Speaker 1: she was talking about how come Monday come legal tampering 1528 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,200 Speaker 1: that she thinks things are just going to hit the fan. 1529 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,960 Speaker 1: What are you expecting out of this free agency? Do 1530 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 1: you think that we see some more surprise moves, blockbuster 1531 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 1: moves or is this going to just kind of be 1532 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:53,040 Speaker 1: a flurry of not you know, mid mid range moves, 1533 01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,559 Speaker 1: but like and how indicative is that of like what 1534 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,479 Speaker 1: we're going to see in the draft, Because I think 1535 01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 1: that so much of free agency is dependent on how 1536 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 1: this draft class looks and what people think they can 1537 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,360 Speaker 1: get out of it. Have you seen kind of that 1538 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,439 Speaker 1: correlation and what do you think is going to happen 1539 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 1: come this week? 1540 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,439 Speaker 8: Yeah? Absolutely, And I think this is going to be 1541 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,519 Speaker 8: an interesting balance this year because I think this is 1542 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,439 Speaker 8: a real meat and potatoes draft. You can get some 1543 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,559 Speaker 8: really good defensive players in this draft. You can get 1544 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,719 Speaker 8: some good role player guys, especially in the middle round. 1545 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,160 Speaker 8: This is like a good safety draft. This is a 1546 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,360 Speaker 8: good draft where if you need the core of your 1547 01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 8: roster in particular positions, you don't want to pay large 1548 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,719 Speaker 8: amounts of money to and keep cheaply on a rookie 1549 01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,160 Speaker 8: contract like that. This is to me, I'm not a 1550 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:39,120 Speaker 8: draft expert. This is your fiance carbon, but I definitely 1551 01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,639 Speaker 8: am am. You know this is what I keep hearing 1552 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,000 Speaker 8: from scouts around the league about this being such a 1553 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,920 Speaker 8: meat and potatoes draft, and that often correlates into more 1554 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,639 Speaker 8: moves at the trade deadline certainly, but in free agency 1555 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,640 Speaker 8: as well as it opens up. I also think that 1556 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,320 Speaker 8: it's a larger trend, though. I think we're seeing more 1557 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,920 Speaker 8: activity because that's just the way that teams want to 1558 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,200 Speaker 8: build at this point. They want to they want to 1559 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,800 Speaker 8: be flexible, and they want to either bring in or 1560 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 8: move off from players. Earlier, you're watching contracts shorten, mainly 1561 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,200 Speaker 8: to three year deals. At this point, you're watching the 1562 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 8: money become massive. But these teams are not really scared 1563 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,200 Speaker 8: to eat dead money anymore for the most part. And 1564 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:18,760 Speaker 8: I think you also have a lot of teams that 1565 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,720 Speaker 8: think they're closer in contention than they actually are. And 1566 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 8: when you combine all of those factors, you're going to 1567 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,680 Speaker 8: have a really, really active open to free agency. I 1568 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 8: don't think there are any like marquee names that would 1569 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,680 Speaker 8: you know that. I think the Trey Hendrickson's of the 1570 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:34,840 Speaker 8: world we kind of know that's going to happen at 1571 01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,519 Speaker 8: some point. Trade wise, I don't know that there's players 1572 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 8: that I've really heard pop as probably being available that 1573 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 8: would really shock the world. But I do think it's 1574 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 8: going to be a very very busy free agency period, 1575 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,760 Speaker 8: and guys, who you know, if a team falls in 1576 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,680 Speaker 8: love with the guy and wants a trade for him, 1577 01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,599 Speaker 8: they are just not scared to do it anymore. 1578 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,559 Speaker 2: Okay, before we let you go. There's going to be 1579 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,360 Speaker 2: plenty of quarterbacks that will be or expected to be 1580 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,920 Speaker 2: free agents when the new league begins on Wednesday. But 1581 01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,639 Speaker 2: I think the biggest name right now is Kyler Murray. 1582 01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,400 Speaker 2: Whoever gets him is going to get him at league 1583 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 2: minimum and absolute steel. Where do you see him landing? 1584 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,719 Speaker 8: So I have a normal take and a crazy take. 1585 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:15,240 Speaker 2: Give us both. 1586 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,960 Speaker 8: So I definitely think he's somebody that the Minnesota Vikings 1587 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:24,240 Speaker 8: should and probably will very very highly consider because of 1588 01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 8: the cheapness of the contract, first and foremost, but also 1589 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,120 Speaker 8: he's a player with such talent. His ceiling is really 1590 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,960 Speaker 8: really high. Unfortunately for Kyler, his floor is also very 1591 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,559 Speaker 8: very low, and so some of the streakiness that he's 1592 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 8: experienced over the last couple of years and then just 1593 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,840 Speaker 8: not it just hasn't been a fit organizationally for him 1594 01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,120 Speaker 8: in Arizona either. I think that a fresh start in 1595 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,120 Speaker 8: Minnesota and something to prove and really in a good 1596 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:50,440 Speaker 8: system that really speaks well to its quarterbacks. With Kevin O'Connell, 1597 01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 8: I think that would be a great fIF for him. However, 1598 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,320 Speaker 8: I would not be surprised a crazy take income embrace 1599 01:15:56,360 --> 01:16:01,840 Speaker 8: yourself ye that this Los Angeles Rams team wow, even 1600 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,719 Speaker 8: though I expect them to keep Jimmy Aroppolo as their backup. 1601 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,439 Speaker 8: He has been drawing interest from other teams as potentially 1602 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:11,240 Speaker 8: a starter. But they have been whispering and sort of 1603 01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 8: wanting to find like this Kyle Shanahan style reclamation project 1604 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,320 Speaker 8: quarterback for years. At this point, a couple of years ago, 1605 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,840 Speaker 8: when there are whispers about like Bryce Young, maybe he 1606 01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,080 Speaker 8: was going to be available with the deadline, there were 1607 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,800 Speaker 8: people who sort of chattered about, oh, maybe if you know, 1608 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,599 Speaker 8: he would be a low cost acquisition, Maybe he would 1609 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,400 Speaker 8: benefit from some time in the Sean McVay system. Maybe 1610 01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,200 Speaker 8: he would benefit and we could turn that into potential 1611 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 8: future value for the organization. And so that to me, 1612 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,120 Speaker 8: this is the type of team that is always looking 1613 01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:45,960 Speaker 8: at those types of moves. 1614 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 7: Now. 1615 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,320 Speaker 8: They're very familiar with Kyler Murray obviously in the NFC West, 1616 01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,519 Speaker 8: but this is a Rams team that I wouldn't It 1617 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,000 Speaker 8: would not shock me if they are a team that 1618 01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,000 Speaker 8: would think about that type of quarterback, bringing that type 1619 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:02,240 Speaker 8: of especially cheap quarterback, in keeping him a year, and 1620 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,719 Speaker 8: then possibly trying to turn him ahead of the trade 1621 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,360 Speaker 8: deadline into value somewhere else. 1622 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:12,519 Speaker 2: It's uh huh, it's not that crazy. Sean McVay Rehab 1623 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 2: Center at the Rams. Jordan, that was a wonderful way 1624 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,280 Speaker 2: to end this. Thank you so much for coming on. 1625 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:23,599 Speaker 8: Thanks you all appreciate it. 1626 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:24,280 Speaker 1: Thanks Jarnan. 1627 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,040 Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take a quick break here. When 1628 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,439 Speaker 2: we come back our feel Good Stories of the Week. 1629 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:33,240 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back to Fox 1630 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,320 Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. I'm Alex Curry here with Carmen Vitellite. Thank 1631 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:39,880 Speaker 2: you for spending your Saturday afternoon with us. Now you're 1632 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:49,040 Speaker 2: listening to Blues Away and now and now we're gonna 1633 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,680 Speaker 2: take your blues away with our feel good story of 1634 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,640 Speaker 2: the week. You see what I did there? I do 1635 01:17:55,240 --> 01:18:00,080 Speaker 2: I know? Okay, you guys are feel good story this 1636 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:04,559 Speaker 2: week is Jason Tatum's return to the court. He helped 1637 01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,719 Speaker 2: Boston beat Dallas last night, but this is his first 1638 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:10,280 Speaker 2: game back in ten months after tearing his achilles last 1639 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,320 Speaker 2: May in the second round of the playoffs when they 1640 01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,040 Speaker 2: lost to the Knicks. Obviously it's gonna take a moment 1641 01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,200 Speaker 2: to get back to full game shape, but he played 1642 01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 2: twenty seven minutes, fifteen pointbound, many restrictions on him. 1643 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 1: Was the biggest surprise of anybody, but it turned out 1644 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:27,760 Speaker 1: it paid off. I mean, I know he went over 1645 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 1: six to start the game, but then they'll put back 1646 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:34,320 Speaker 1: dunk right before halftime, and like from then on was 1647 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,680 Speaker 1: just on fire. I like, and it's so cool to 1648 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, he was. Not only did he not have 1649 01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,000 Speaker 1: a minute's restriction obviously that meant he started, and the 1650 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:48,519 Speaker 1: way that the crowd was like that greeted him, and 1651 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,479 Speaker 1: like just like seeing all of the different things that 1652 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,360 Speaker 1: like we see of Jason Tatum when he walks on 1653 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,120 Speaker 1: the court. I'm such a big fan of him, I like, 1654 01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:57,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a Bulls fan. I grew up a 1655 01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,320 Speaker 1: Bulls fan, so like I can't bring myself to samula 1656 01:18:59,320 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 1: Celtics fan. 1657 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like, I can never bring myself to 1658 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,599 Speaker 2: say that I'm a Celtics fan. 1659 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,439 Speaker 1: But I will say, like, you know, you miss certain 1660 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,839 Speaker 1: things from certain players because there's like a ritual behind 1661 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,160 Speaker 1: watching them play, and like things like him, you know, 1662 01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,760 Speaker 1: going through the handshake line and like as intros are going, 1663 01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,640 Speaker 1: and then he goes and he meets Jalen Brown and 1664 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,519 Speaker 1: they do their little signature jump, and then he meets 1665 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,640 Speaker 1: his little son, Deuce on the sideline like right afterwards, 1666 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,680 Speaker 1: Like little stuff like that, and like the atmosphere looked electric. 1667 01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we almost forget the human aspect of these athletes 1668 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,320 Speaker 2: because we just talk about them in such a way 1669 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,360 Speaker 2: that it's it's a machine. But what you have to 1670 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,760 Speaker 2: go through to come back from an Achilles' injury and 1671 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,000 Speaker 2: the way he went out in the playoffs as the 1672 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:45,840 Speaker 2: defending champs and then not being able to help your 1673 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,120 Speaker 2: team get back to that moment, to then come back 1674 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,679 Speaker 2: after ten months, to have a great first game back 1675 01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,640 Speaker 2: like this, and then to have the Celtics in a 1676 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,519 Speaker 2: position to be in a great spot come the playoffs. 1677 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,479 Speaker 2: I mean there's like five weeks left in the right season. 1678 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,599 Speaker 2: They're currently in second, only four games back from the Pistons. 1679 01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,160 Speaker 2: Like Boston's in a good spot and like he can 1680 01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,679 Speaker 2: have an incredible impact down the stretch, Like I thought 1681 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 2: it was going to be a little more of a 1682 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,559 Speaker 2: slow role, but like without a minute's restriction last night, 1683 01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:16,679 Speaker 2: like he looked good. He's only going to get better 1684 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:17,559 Speaker 2: the closer to thee. 1685 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,760 Speaker 1: A little rest in that first half. But I encourage you, 1686 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:21,439 Speaker 1: if you if you want to read a little bit 1687 01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,720 Speaker 1: more about it. Tom Westerholme of Boston dot Com has 1688 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,600 Speaker 1: an excellent article that paints the picture just so beautifully 1689 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,479 Speaker 1: about what it was like to be in TD Garden 1690 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:30,960 Speaker 1: and to see that. 1691 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,920 Speaker 2: So I love moments like that. I'm getting I love 1692 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:33,439 Speaker 2: about it. 1693 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm really I'm really happy for Jason Tatum and it's 1694 01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:37,840 Speaker 1: a good story. 1695 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,000 Speaker 2: It's a feel good story. Thank you guys for spending 1696 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,720 Speaker 2: your Saturday afternoon with Carme and Me. We'll see you 1697 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,920 Speaker 2: next week, same time, same place,