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Speaker 1: for the Texans Training Camps Special, Smack Dab. In the

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Speaker 1: middle of thirty two consecutive days of Texans coverage, you're

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Speaker 1: on Sports Radio six ten. We bring you another Saturday

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Speaker 1: of Texans Training Camp Special presented by Xfinity. I am

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Speaker 1: Sean Pendergast, one half of Payne and Pendergast in the

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Speaker 1: mornings here on Sports Radio six ten, and the other

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Speaker 1: half is an original Houston Texan and he is with

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Speaker 1: me right now as well. Seth Payne. Seth, very happy

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Speaker 1: Saturday to you, my friend. It's a very happy Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I feel like all the baseball and basketball action is

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Speaker 1: nineteen days. We're nineteen days away, and normally right now

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Speaker 1: With no preseason games as sort of tent pole events

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Speaker 1: So you don't get that, but you can create those situations,

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Speaker 1: these high stress situations where there's a clock running and

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Speaker 1: you hope you simulate somehow in these in these few weeks.

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Speaker 1: And really, the team that handles it best over this

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Speaker 1: And I don't look, I'm not gonna sit here and

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Speaker 1: say that Bill O'Brien's gonna be better than Andy Reid

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Speaker 1: really really have to be as professional as possible to

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Speaker 1: be dialed in versus opponents like those. I want to

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Speaker 1: get to Bill O'Brien talking about delegating more as the

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Speaker 1: lines set I was reading today, there are a handful

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Speaker 1: In other words, they're tackling, they're doing full on hitting

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Speaker 1: in practice. The Steelers were one of them. There were

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Speaker 1: a few others, five or six teams O'Brien was asked

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Speaker 1: want to do that. If you were a head coach

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Speaker 1: in this type of preseason, would you have full hitting

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Speaker 1: going on in practice or would you be doing it

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Speaker 1: the way O'Brien's doing it right now? At any point,

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Speaker 1: I'd be doing it the way Bill O'Brien is doing it.

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Speaker 1: I'd be doing it the way Bill O'Brien is doing it,

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Speaker 1: because there is there's You can practice tackling without tackling.

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Speaker 1: Rugby players do it all the time. They actually tackling

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Speaker 1: go to the ground. But you can tackle without going

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Speaker 1: full speed and without using pads. Obviously, so much of

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Speaker 1: and making contact at the right spot. And Anthony Weaver

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Speaker 1: to try to prepare for it that way. But that's

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Speaker 1: pretty much. I mean, you go back to the nineteen

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Speaker 1: people say, well, hey, those yeah, were those guys. Those

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Speaker 1: guys were already great. Ronnie Lott was already great. Well yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's one guy. Ronnie Lott was not the entire defense.

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Speaker 1: So when it comes down to just being more prepared

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Speaker 1: without actually going all the way to the ground Steth

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Speaker 1: You ask Bill O'Brien a question in his one of

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Speaker 1: his press conferences this week about how different it is

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Speaker 1: for him this season now that he's got play calling

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Speaker 1: duties delegated over to Tim Kelly and how does that

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Speaker 1: allow him to focus on other things. Here here's Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien's pretty interesting answer to that question. I said that

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Speaker 1: you've you've been able to spend some more time with

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Speaker 1: the defense. Is that giving you a different perspective on

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Speaker 1: the offense while you're doing that? And it is it

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Speaker 1: kind of refreshing in a way. Yeah, I mean, I just, um,

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Speaker 1: I've always spent time with the defense, but I think

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Speaker 1: I'm able to go into meeting more, even a staff meeting,

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Speaker 1: and just give them maybe a couple tidbits of offensive. Hey,

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Speaker 1: this is what they're trying to do on this protection.

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Speaker 1: This is what they're trying to do with this route

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Speaker 1: scheme when they see this coverage or just understand that

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Speaker 1: this is beating this coverage or trying to or this

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Speaker 1: protection is you know, if the linebacker moves four feet,

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Speaker 1: then that might screw the protection up. I think sometimes

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Speaker 1: the defensive coaches don't understand that, you know, offensively, when

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Speaker 1: a defensive player moves from here to here, that can

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Speaker 1: totally change the call, you know. And so that's really

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Speaker 1: like the perspective I try to give. And then we

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Speaker 1: obviously the biggest thing is the personnel. You know, how

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Speaker 1: are we using personnel? We have a lot of versatile

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Speaker 1: guys like Robi and Lonnie Johnson and Eric Murray and

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Speaker 1: Justin Reid and Zack Cunningham and JJ Watt quite obviously

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Speaker 1: and Charles a meta whu. So I always tell them, hey,

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Speaker 1: put this guy here or that guy there. And that's

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Speaker 1: really what I try to do. And I can do

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Speaker 1: that a little bit more now, seth. How valuable is

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Speaker 1: that intel that Bill O'Brien's giving to Anthony Weaver in

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Speaker 1: the defense. It's it's big. And honestly, that's something that

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Speaker 1: you tell younger players all the time, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think they quite grasp it, Like how much it messes

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Speaker 1: up an offensive lineman when or a quarterback when right

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Speaker 1: before the snap you change your alignment. And I think

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Speaker 1: O'Brien went on to talk a little bit further, and

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Speaker 1: I've talked to him about this before, about just that

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Speaker 1: that things that put stress on an offense and vice versa,

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Speaker 1: the things that put stress on a defense. Sometimes you

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Speaker 1: just don't quite understand it. When you're hold up in

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Speaker 1: your own little cubby hole and you're game planning, you

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Speaker 1: don't really know how much something can can really flummix

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Speaker 1: the opponent's plan. And that's where I think Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 1: being on both sides of the ball this year might

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Speaker 1: really help, you know. I like, I like the concept

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Speaker 1: in the idea of Romeo Cornell and Bill O'Brien kind

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Speaker 1: of you call it red teaming, where you you you

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Speaker 1: basically game plan against your own team's offense. You know,

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Speaker 1: in Romeo Carnell can game plan, uh, he can. He

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Speaker 1: can be a factor in game planning against the Texans

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Speaker 1: zone defense, you kind of swap hats and play play

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Speaker 1: the other roles to speak, and then I also think

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Speaker 1: with Bill O'Brien right now, it's been I think it's

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Speaker 1: been a challenge for him because he's a guy that

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Speaker 1: wants to control everything, like most good NFL coaches do,

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Speaker 1: but it's been hard for him at times to delegate,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's taken this long perhaps to find

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Speaker 1: somebody that he genuinely trusts, like Tim Kelly. But because

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Speaker 1: of that, I think O'Brien's gonna be able to take

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Speaker 1: more of a thirty five thousand foot view of things,

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Speaker 1: and maybe when it comes to in game decisions, perhaps

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Speaker 1: when it comes to just game planning during the week,

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Speaker 1: we might see a more deft touch because he's not

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Speaker 1: going to be so beleaguered by trying to be the

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Speaker 1: general manager of the head coach and the offensive coordinating Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a really good point. Texans Training Camp Special presented

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you tuning in. SETH. One of the things

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Speaker 1: I get asked most about with being out of practice

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Speaker 1: is just that like, oh, what's what's Bill O'Brien doing.

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Speaker 1: Where's he standing? Is he letting Tim Kelly do his thing?

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Speaker 1: Is he letting Tim Kelly run the defense? And I

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Speaker 1: can tell you that he is, you know, he Tim

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Speaker 1: Kelly is the one who in the in the early

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Speaker 1: part of the practice when they're going through walkthroughs, you know,

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Speaker 1: when they're just doing things against air and they're going

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Speaker 1: in lining up in certain formations, it's Tim Kelly who's

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Speaker 1: standing in the huddle with Deshan. Bill O'Brien is, you know,

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Speaker 1: either taking a knee or standing way off to the

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Speaker 1: the side, observing both the offense and defense at the

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Speaker 1: same time. And I think you brought up something else

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Speaker 1: that I think people should probably understand is that Romeo

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Speaker 1: Cornell is still very involved. He's at practice every day.

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Speaker 1: I think people, I think there's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that probably don't even know that Romeo is still on

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Speaker 1: the staff in some way, shape or for him, because

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Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver got promoted to defensive coordinator, but Romeo is

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Speaker 1: still out there. And I always think it's funny because

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Speaker 1: I've noticed the defense maybe having a little different energy

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Speaker 1: this year because Weaver brings a different voice in a

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Speaker 1: different tone than Romeo did, and it gets brought up

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Speaker 1: a lot. It gets brought up about how Weaver might

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Speaker 1: be more exotic and things could be a little more,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe a little more exciting this year. And

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Speaker 1: I always feel bad for Romeo because he's like standing

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Speaker 1: right there, you know what I mean. He's like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm right over here. I can hear you. I know

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Speaker 1: you're you feel like you're kind of talking about me

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Speaker 1: right now. You know, it'd be like if you're at

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Speaker 1: your auto shop and the sun had taken over, you

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Speaker 1: know it was it was Hank's autoshop. You're talking to

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Speaker 1: Hank Junior, and you're telling Hank Junior how much cleaner

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Speaker 1: and better everything is right now. Meanwhile, Hank Seniors, he's

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Speaker 1: just sitting there trying to watch his cable news in

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Speaker 1: the in the waiting room. Even in Doctor Pepper, Yeah

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Speaker 1: right here, Hank Poor Hank slash Romeo Corunell. Well, because

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Speaker 1: this happens sometimes in NFL organizations, you call it demotion

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Speaker 1: by promotion, like they did it with Monte Kiffin in Dallas,

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Speaker 1: where he went from being defensive coordinator to like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's been elevated to a senior position Bill Walsh e

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Speaker 1: even in Miami, right, But I think with Romeo it's

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Speaker 1: a genuine I don't know if you call it a promotion,

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Speaker 1: but it's not like he's off in the front office

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Speaker 1: or anything. He's out there, and I think he's done

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Speaker 1: this before already with Mike Vrabel. I don't think that

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Speaker 1: it's anything that Anthony Weaver or Mike Vrabel at the

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Speaker 1: time look at is any kind of a threat, because

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Speaker 1: Romeo Cornell is just that kind of a personality. He's

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Speaker 1: just he seems you know, a lot of times football

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Speaker 1: coaches talk about the team a whole lot, but you

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Speaker 1: can tell that their intercred that some of these guys

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Speaker 1: are just they're very driven and ambitious individualists. Romeo is

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Speaker 1: not that. Like. Romeo is all about the team, which

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Speaker 1: is pretty cool. Yeah, very cool. All right, we'll get

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Speaker 1: during all this, this return from quarantine, and the Rockets

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Speaker 1: their West Coast games, and that kind of stinks. But

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Speaker 1: then even in just and not having any preseason games,

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Speaker 1: you're not staying up like trying to stay away for

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Speaker 1: You're not ruining your Saturday night with a preseason game

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Speaker 1: or something. This is all I feel like. This is

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Speaker 1: I am anxious to see what the NFL does in

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Speaker 1: future seasons that they did in this particular offseason in

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Speaker 1: preseason that was you know, almost thrust on them because

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Speaker 1: going forward that they may not have even stumbled into.

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Speaker 1: And you know, they were already going to shorten the

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Speaker 1: preseason because they were going to lengthen the regular season.

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Speaker 1: But if the quality of play looks good on the field,

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Speaker 1: I know those preseason games have money attached to them,

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Speaker 1: but I do wonder if the preseason gets executed differently

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Speaker 1: going forward because it is a big sticking point for

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Speaker 1: a lot of fans out there the preseason. Yet you

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Speaker 1: I'm curious that the NFL is going to do anything

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Speaker 1: differently going forward that they've dumbled into here over the

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Speaker 1: past few months. This would be my pep talk if

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Speaker 1: it would be very, very motivational. Right before the first game,

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Speaker 1: I'd say, listen, listen to you, and that I would

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Speaker 1: and I would say I would say, listen, you guys

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Speaker 1: like that. Not having any preseason games, gn we better

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Speaker 1: go out of here and play some crisp football. I

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Speaker 1: and then I guess the pep talk to the fans

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Speaker 1: but just try to make it look like economically this

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Speaker 1: For the most part, we're all in agreement at this point. Nobody.

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Speaker 1: younger players who aren't going to have a chance to

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Speaker 1: really show themselves. But you can figure that out. Have

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Speaker 1: some have some JV scrimmages or something August. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: from O'Brien about here, which seth Normally, if they wanted

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Speaker 1: come in three to four days ahead of time. They've

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Speaker 1: on the premises. That's how cautious the NFL is being

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Speaker 1: with all this, O'Brien said. Not easy to fill needs

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Speaker 1: and not easy to build a roster during these types

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Speaker 1: of conditions. It's definitely challenging. It's definitely different. I think

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Speaker 1: that's something that we talk about every every week and

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Speaker 1: under the same rules, but it's definitely challenging. Seth. This

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Speaker 1: It's a great lesson that you better pound, you know,

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00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: rookies to figure things out. I think likewise, it's a

851
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: year for veterans when it comes to signing journeyman mid season.

852
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: I would much rather have a guy that I know

853
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: that if I can come in and have him wait

854
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: three days to pass the clearing house and everything, that

855
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to pick up my system quickly

856
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: and come in. But I also think that, well, we

857
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: say that, hey, some of these young guys aren't going

858
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: to have a chance to prove themselves in training camp,

859
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: but that's unfortunate. The guys that do make the roster

860
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: are probably gonna play more this year than perhaps they

861
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: would have in the past because the head coach is

862
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: gonna have no choice but to trust them and they're

863
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: really it's gonna be a lot harder to bring those

864
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: veteran guys out. If somebody gets turned on a Wednesday

865
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: and you got to try to bring in a veteran

866
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: to work out, and it's gonna be a three or

867
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: four day lag period, some of these younger guys will

868
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: be pressed into action a lot sooner, and along the

869
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: lines of what you said there, you gotta be ready,

870
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta This is a year. This is

871
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: a year as much as it is for veterans, it's

872
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: a year for actual professionals and guys who take their

873
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: job seriously. And the teams that are the most mature

874
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,479
Speaker 1: both in preparing for football but then and also being

875
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: sure that you don't catch the COVID, those are the

876
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: teams that are going to do well. Yeah, that and

877
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean that is that is excellent. And when you

878
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: get boy Seth, when you look at this, the Texans

879
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: are gonna have to They're gonna have to keep a

880
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: list of guys and maybe work out guys at positions

881
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 1: that you would never thought of working guys out before,

882
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, positions where you have one guy and you

883
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: just go, well, this is our guy the whole year.

884
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: And I'm talking like specialist right, like punter, long snapper. Um,

885
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: you know what if what if a player one of

886
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: those positions gets the coronavirus? You know what I mean?

887
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: Like you're they're they're gonna have to conduct business completely

888
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: differently when it comes to almost having an emergency list

889
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: for that sort of thing, you know what I mean,

890
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: like and and and have a backup almost ready to

891
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: like a literally at every position, know that there's someone

892
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: sitting at home that you can call. They get in here,

893
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: they get coronavirus tested for a couple of days, and boom,

894
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: they're ready to go. It's so different. I think Connor

895
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: Barwin and maybe Sean Cody and a few of those

896
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: guys need to be out there practicing as an altar

897
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: shadows squad or something that you can have those guys

898
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: ready to go and at the drop of it. Can

899
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: you imagine Can you imagine if all of a sudden,

900
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: somebody goes down, Whitney Merciless or something goes down in

901
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: the third quarter of a football game and in marches

902
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: Connor Barwin with full face paint. Oh my gosh, the

903
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: nonexistent fans would go crazy easy at the place where

904
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: he erupt with silence. Oh that is great. I can see.

905
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: I don't. I haven't seen Connor Barwin since, you know,

906
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: since he was playing. It's been a few years. Um.

907
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: He strikes me as somebody who's probably like forty or

908
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 1: fifty pounds lighter now than he was as a player,

909
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: and he wasn't fat as a player, you know what

910
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean? But like guys go one way or the

911
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 1: other right seth Like he strikes me as a guy

912
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: who has taken up biking and spends a lot of

913
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: time hiking and and and maybe getting ready for a

914
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: marathon at some point here along the way. Like he

915
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: may be a lot lighters teaching. Yeah, he's teaching like

916
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: kids in rural impoverished Mexico how to mountain bike or

917
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: something like that. You know, it's like he's teaching him

918
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: how to how to recycle, learn to read in mountain

919
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: bike and make it go him. And he'll probably he'll

920
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: he'll be the president of a province down there within

921
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: within two or three months or two or three years,

922
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I would imagine. So football might not be in his interests. Arian.

923
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: I'd like to see Arian Foster come back too, because

924
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: I know Arian Arian's in shape, I've seen him. I

925
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: think that would be the most improbable comeback because because

926
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: I don't think Arian's had is anywhere near a football field. No, No,

927
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't I don't think so either.

928
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: It's Texans Training Camp Special presented by Xfinity. We're Smack

929
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: dab in the middle of thirty two consecutive days of

930
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: Texans coverage here on Sports Radio six ten, and we

931
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: appreciate you tuning in. Two guys that are going to

932
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: be looking to get contract extensions. O'Brien spoke about both

933
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: this week. The first, obviously Deshaun Watson looking for a big,

934
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: big deal that would be certainly the biggest deal in

935
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: franchise history here for the Texans. O'Brien earlier this week

936
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: on where Deshaun Watson has improved this preseason. He's played

937
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: really well. I mean, he's playing at a really high level.

938
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: He's got a real good grasp of our team, of

939
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 1: our offense, He's got a real good grasp of the protections.

940
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: He's throwing the ball accurately on time, making good decisions

941
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: in the passing game. I think, you know, we've we've

942
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: thrown a ton of passes. I think he's only thrown

943
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: one interception the whole camp. You know, he's he's understand

944
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: and the ball's coming out at a good you know,

945
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: in a good rhythm um and he just works hard

946
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: to get better day. Takes it very seriously. His meetings,

947
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: He's very focused. The walk through is He's very focused

948
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: and he looks at each practice you know, like a game,

949
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: and he and he tries to get better every day.

950
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: So he's doing a great job. That's all Brian's assessment.

951
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: Here's the Shawn Watson's self assessment on where he feels

952
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: he's improved. Uh. Just, I mean my confidence to continue

953
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: to grow, the leadership, the knowledge of the offense, what

954
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: we want to do as a whole has been simplified

955
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: for me just because it's my it's year four for me.

956
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: So having that comfortability and having that confidence on exactly

957
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: what we've been learning over the past three years and

958
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: now getting into my year four, you know, and been

959
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: with Tim has spend a whole year last year on

960
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: his mindset and what he's thinking. And now he's a

961
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: play caller, you know. Now having that, you know, we've

962
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: been on the same page and I already know before

963
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, each situation what he's thinking, and so we're

964
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 1: on the same page. So I think that's the next

965
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: step that I've been taking with him, and um, it's

966
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: been good. It's interesting set. That's the second time in

967
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: the preseason Deshaun Watson's brought up the connection with him

968
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 1: and tim Kelly and just how how smooth that whole

969
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: process is. And look, I think, well, it remains to

970
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: be seeing what kind of play caller Tim Kelly is

971
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: going to be. But if part of, if part of

972
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: the move of Tim Kelly to calling plays and O'Brien

973
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: kind of backing away from the offensive very granular offensive

974
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: game planning during the week, if if part, if part

975
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: of the purpose of that was just to kind of

976
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: give to Shaun a clearer head in this whole thing

977
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: heading into the season, then it's already been a successful

978
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: move because it sounds like he's been very been, very

979
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: much in favor of it, but not in a way

980
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: that he doesn't like working for Bill O'Brien, but just

981
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: in a way that this is an easier way to

982
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: go about your business. Yeah, And I think that there's

983
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot to be said for that. You know,

984
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: the old saying that of an average an okay plan

985
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: perfectly executed, is better than a brilliant plan poorly executed

986
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: or even haphazardly exec I think there's a little bit

987
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: of something to that with the operation of the Texans

988
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: offense the last few years, is that there are there

989
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: are grand schemes and designs that make a whole lot

990
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: of sense, but it loses something along the way in

991
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: the execution. And in football, coaches are always trying to

992
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: find that balance between execution and complexity. It's hard to

993
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 1: have really good execution the more complex you get. But

994
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: if all you do is plan on executing, hey we

995
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: can run two plays every single time, defenses are going

996
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: to figure it out. And you're always trying to build

997
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: and did you want to be able to conduct a symphony,

998
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: but you got to have all the right musicians to

999
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: actually make a symphony sound good. Otherwise it just sounds

1000
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: like Sean and Seth trying to play the French horn

1001
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: in the tuba. It sounds like it's a mess. So

1002
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: they're trying to create a symphony. There's it's a lot

1003
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: easier if you're only listening to one voice. And sometimes,

1004
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, I think that you can have an offensive

1005
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: coordinator and a head coach that both have really good

1006
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: ideas and both understand a whole lot about offense. But

1007
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: if you've got if you It's kind of the same

1008
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: thing you say with quarterbacks. If you have two quarterbacks,

1009
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: you have no quarterback at all. If you've got two

1010
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: guys in the quarterbacks year, sometimes you've got no quarterback

1011
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: coach at all. Yeah, it's a good way to put it.

1012
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: And Deshaun this has looked like his camp man, Deshaun

1013
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: has looked really, really good. O'Brien's assessment there was spot on.

1014
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: As We Roll On with Texans Training Camp special presented

1015
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: by Exfinity Sean Pendergass and Seth Payne, with you, we'll

1016
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: see if Deshawn's contract gets done before the start of

1017
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: the season. It seems like everybody is hoping to work

1018
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: towards that. The other big contract that the Texans are

1019
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: reportedly looking to get done before the season, according to

1020
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: John McClean earlier this week, is that of inside linebacker

1021
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: Zach Cunningham. Bill O'Brien made no secret about the fact

1022
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: that he wants that to happen at some point here.

1023
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: We want Zach on our team. We want Zack to

1024
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: be a Texan for a long time, no doubt about it.

1025
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: He is. He's just a really good player. He's very instinctive,

1026
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: he's got good speed. You can do a lot of

1027
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: different things within He can do a lot of different

1028
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: things within our scheme, plays on special teams, on the

1029
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 1: punt team. Really good guy, you know, same guy every day.

1030
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, no, uh we we think that it'd be

1031
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: great if he was with us for a long time.

1032
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: About as clear an answer as you can get Cunningham

1033
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: asked about the contract negotiations. He did not go on

1034
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: for nearly as long as Bill O'Brien did. Right now

1035
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: that my Asian handle all, you know, all the talks

1036
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: and stuff and the Dylans behind the scenes. I'm really

1037
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: just more focused on the season China, play the season

1038
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: out and do my best I can for the season. Seth.

1039
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: How crucial is it that they get Zach Cunningham locked

1040
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: up long term? I think it's I think it's somewhat crucial.

1041
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: I think that he's a guy that actually you might

1042
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: franchise Tag if you didn't get him locked up long term.

1043
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: I think that he can play his way into that

1044
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: franchise Tag caliber player. And I'll say it too, Zach

1045
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: Cunningham is a great success story and kind of the

1046
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: guy that you want to be able to point out

1047
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: to younger players because he was a late bloomer. Sets

1048
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: sets connection, Seth connection, SETH connection cut out all right,

1049
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: So Seth talking about Zach Cunningham being a late bloomer.

1050
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: He was. He was a late leave He was a

1051
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt guy, second round pick, came in with Deshaun Watson

1052
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: and is a guy who has steadily ascended each of

1053
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: his first three years to where Pro Bowl alternate last

1054
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: year among the league leaders and tackles. One of the

1055
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: gold standards for run stopping last year was Zach Cunningham.

1056
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: We'll see that deal gets done. Franchise tag for Zach

1057
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: Cunningham is interesting. I had not thought about that. I

1058
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: do have an either or that I want to bounce

1059
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: off of Seth in the next segment, because if the

1060
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: Texans get a sixteen game season or even a fourteen

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Speaker 1: be in competition with every other team because the cap

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Speaker 1: will go down too. Yeah, Fuller. Fuller's in a weird

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Speaker 1: spot right now where if he stays healthy for all

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Speaker 1: sixteen games, then I think he's looking at over fifteen

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. But I feel like if he's

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Speaker 1: if he's injured for only three or four games, even

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Speaker 1: that same old story about him is gonna be out

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Speaker 1: there and it's gonna knock him down a whole lot

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Speaker 1: when and with good reason, teams will be shy about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's been injured every year, no doubt about a text message.

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Speaker 1: I'd say, franchise Tag Cunningham. The amount for linebackers versus

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Speaker 1: wide receivers is cheaper. That is true. Fuller has been

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Speaker 1: injury prone again. My hypothetical was that he isn't for that,

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Speaker 1: But I get what you're saying, Texters. He could pop

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Speaker 1: up again. Texter also says plus based on the media

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Speaker 1: reports from camp, including Seawan's The Texan says him intriguing

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Speaker 1: wide receiver potential and guys like Coulter, Yeah, you can't

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Speaker 1: factor the culture has looked good in camp so far.

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Speaker 1: Like he's been intriguing for a kid from Rhode Island.

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Speaker 1: Like he look at him. He go, okay, Well that

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Speaker 1: that dude looks like a he looks like a prospect.

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Speaker 1: He looks like he played at a big school. Say

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Speaker 1: a Coulter can't factor into the calculus as to whether

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Speaker 1: or not to keep will Fuller on a long term deal.

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Speaker 1: Like to me, when you brought in Coulters named Texters,

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Speaker 1: where I lost you a little bit? To me, where

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Speaker 1: I thought the Texter was going is something I would

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Speaker 1: ask you, Seth. I was watching them line up in

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Speaker 1: just doing walkthroughs at the beginning of practice the last

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Speaker 1: couple of days, and Fuller has been working out off

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Speaker 1: to the side. So the formations they've been running has

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Speaker 1: they've been running as if will Fuller were injured. He's

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Speaker 1: not out there with those guys. He's working out with

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Speaker 1: trainers and he's fine physically, but that's just his ramp

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Speaker 1: up in balls working out with trainers. So the group

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Speaker 1: they had out there, the receiving group they had out there,

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Speaker 1: the three receivers were Cooks, Cob and Stills and then

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Speaker 1: with whoever in the backfield and whoever a tight end.

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Speaker 1: And as I'm watching that, I'm going, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: they traded Hopkins, and everybody's still kind of angry about that,

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Speaker 1: for sure. But as I look at that trio of

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Speaker 1: wide receivers, I say to myself, Man, when Fuller was

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Speaker 1: hurt last year, you went into Sunday's feeling like, Man,

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Speaker 1: this offense might be stuck in mud again because Fuller's

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Speaker 1: not out there. Because your wide receiving trio was Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: Stills and then DeAndre Carter, Kiki QT or somebody like that.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel better about the trio even though Hopkins

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Speaker 1: isn't part of it, of Cooks, Cobb and Stills being

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Speaker 1: able to give the Texans a better chance on Sundays

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Speaker 1: this year without Fuller than what they put out their

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Speaker 1: last year without Fuller without Okay, this year without Fuller

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Speaker 1: compared to last year without Fuller, Boy, there's a whole

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Speaker 1: lot more speed out there. And I think the biggest

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Speaker 1: thing in the biggest difference there is that it's speed

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Speaker 1: combined with experience, where what we talked about earlier, are

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Speaker 1: guys actually in the right spot. Does Deshaun Watson genuinely

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Speaker 1: have three, four or five options because remember he's got

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Speaker 1: Duke Johnson and David Johnson is an outlet also in

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Speaker 1: the passing game, Then yeah, I feel better about that

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Speaker 1: scenario without will Fuller. But but I guess that's the catch, right,

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Speaker 1: because you always have to look at the whole composition

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Speaker 1: of a position group. And when you look at Randall Cobb,

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Speaker 1: who's thirty years old, Brandon Cooks, who has played more

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01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: games as a wide receiver since twenty fifteen than any

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Speaker 1: other wide receiver in the league, and yet somehow he's

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Speaker 1: got an injury prone tag because he's had five concussions

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Speaker 1: in that time, and I think that's fair. But then

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Speaker 1: you have Kenny Stills also, who you know, frankly Kenny Stills.

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Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes people talk about Kenny Stills like

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01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 1: he's proven more than he has. He really has yet

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01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: to have a genuinely impressive season in the NFL, and

1340
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: there were excuses and reasons for that when he was

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Speaker 1: in Miami. But it's still not like he's one of these,

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Speaker 1: you know, a guy that's been to the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: a couple of times or anything. And I think that

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01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: excuse me that, um, I think that it's just it

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01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that, Hey, because you've got those guys, then

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Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about keeping Will Fuller around

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01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: because you've also got Key k QT or all these

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01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: other unproven guys. There's a lot of age combined with

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Speaker 1: inexperience with all those other options other than Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Brandon Cooks is the one guy who's not

1351
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: old and who has really performed at a really high level. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think as we roll on here with Texans Trade

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Speaker 1: Camp Special presented by Xfinity, Sean Pendergas and Seth Payne

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Speaker 1: with you here on a Saturday, I think, Seth, this

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01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: is where this Fuller thing is a scenario where the

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Speaker 1: depth of veterans a wide receiver. Now, to me, I

1357
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: love having Kenny Stills as your fourth guy in the rotation.

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01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 1: I love when Fuller's not in there, having Kenny Stills

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Speaker 1: as your third guy sort of as a target, not

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Speaker 1: your second guy right behind Hopkins. You know, Cobb and

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Speaker 1: Cooks are guys that I think not only have some

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Speaker 1: degree of speed, Cook's elite speed, but they can also

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Speaker 1: get opened in the middle of the field. I think

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Speaker 1: where it comes in having these three veteran guys where

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Speaker 1: it really comes into plays if Fuller has a couple

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01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: of those games like he did this past season, where

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Speaker 1: he gets hurt and it's in the first quarter of

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Speaker 1: a game where you prepped all week as if Fuller

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Speaker 1: was going to be out there for you. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's one thing when Fuller pulls a quad and he's

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Speaker 1: gone for three weeks, but the second and the third week,

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Speaker 1: you knew he wasn't going to be out there because

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01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: he's injured all week. You could you could game plan

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01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,040
Speaker 1: all week long without Will Fuller. But there's always a

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: couple of times a year where it feels like ten

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01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: snaps into the game, Fuller goes to the locker room,

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Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, you're having to cobble

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01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: something together with a different sort of game plan. I

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01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 1: feel like if you're doing that with Cobb and Cooks

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01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: and Stills, David Johnson. In the backfield, maybe the tight

1381
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: ends take a step up this year. Man Jordan Nakins

1382
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: has looked he's looked like a stud in camp so far.

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01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: It's easier to do that than it is with the

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Speaker 1: groups that you've had out there previously. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: think especially with that speed that you have, if you

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01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: think about one of the one of the routes that

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and Deshaun Watson really like are just deep

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01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: crossers where you've got a wide receiver split out wide

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Speaker 1: on the left, one on the right, and they both

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01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: just run vertical routes and then cross in the middle

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01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: of the field. And you put defensive backfields into a

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01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: bind when you do that. But when you're doing it

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01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: Will Fuller and DeAndre Hopkins, it's not quite as much

1394
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: of a bind because DeAndre wasn't a downfield burner type

1395
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: of guy, right, And it's still it's always a conundrum

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01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: when DeAndre Hopkins is on the field because teams jarre

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01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: just so paranoid and so conscious of what he's able

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01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: to do. The difference this year is you don't have

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Speaker 1: a receiver on the field that's as good as DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: But when you run that route, you've got more speed

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Speaker 1: on the field, and you just flat out put a

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01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: whole lot of stress on the defense. And then what

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01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: you also have as Randall Cobb, who can run the

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01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: shallower routes as you're as you're sending those deep crossers

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Speaker 1: down there, that presents a whole lot of options for

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, and you just didn't have last year, you know,

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Speaker 1: with or without Will Fuller. At times, we were talking

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Speaker 1: in the previous segment about how difficult it is set

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Speaker 1: to put an NFL team together these days because of

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Speaker 1: the coronavirus, how difficult it is to put a roster

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Speaker 1: together or make adjustments to your roster, find solutions for

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Speaker 1: your roster because of the just how cumbersome the process

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Speaker 1: is now. I don't know a lot of people know.

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Speaker 1: You got to bring guys in three or four days

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Speaker 1: ahead of time, and they have to test for the

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Speaker 1: coronavirus three days in a row and sit in a

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Speaker 1: hotel for three days before they're even allowed on the

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Speaker 1: property over at NRG Stadium and the Methodist Training Center.

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Speaker 1: Joe Joe tweets in if an NFL team had full rosters,

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Speaker 1: could they hire players for the office to keep them

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Speaker 1: COVID tested and ready as a way of addressing the

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Speaker 1: test delay or replacements during the season. T J Yates

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Speaker 1: brought something up when I was jokingly asking him where

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Speaker 1: he was on the quarterback depth chart right now because

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Speaker 1: of COVID, and it was, oh, the Matt Nagy rule.

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Speaker 1: When Matt Nagy was working as a coach for Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: they toyed with the idea of activating him as a

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Speaker 1: backup because they had some injuries. And there apparently there's

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Speaker 1: a rule where you're not allowed to do that anymore

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Speaker 1: because they just they don't want people able to stash

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Speaker 1: a quarterback on their coaching staff. I would imagine that

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Speaker 1: it's if you're any kind of a team employee, whether

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Speaker 1: it's a coach or otherwise, you're not allowed to do that.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a great idea. Look, whoever suggested that

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Speaker 1: is of the same mental caliber as Andy Reid, And

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Speaker 1: that's not bad. That's not a bad st I don't

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Speaker 1: know how your clock management is. You probably you probably

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01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: think it's Sunday right now, but you made a good

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01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: point about stashing players in the front office. Can you

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01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: imagine Jamie Roots getting up in front of like the

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Speaker 1: ticket sales group or whatever and say, say, folks, I'd

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Speaker 1: like you to meet our new ticket sales representative, Albert

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Speaker 1: Huggins and say a loo to your new co worker Albert. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: just like office linebacker Terry. Yes. Yeah, it's just all

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Speaker 1: these random, gigantic human beings all of a sudden working

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Speaker 1: in the office. I would have Brandon done working in

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Speaker 1: accounts receivable. He would be the guy that shows up

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Speaker 1: at your door and says, oh, yeah, excuse me, yes

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Speaker 1: said the bill was in the mail down shakedown all right.

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Speaker 1: radio hosts. The team is trying to get into midseason

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Speaker 1: form as players. We have not gotten upset or worked

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Speaker 1: up over NFL Power rankings yet. I feel like we

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Speaker 1: need to do that, sort of like stretching out the hamstring.

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Speaker 1: So we are going to get worked up about this

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Speaker 1: set of NFL Power rankings. Where do the Texans rank?

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Speaker 1: More importantly, where does most of their schedule rank? Right now?

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio six ten, Seth Pain. Seth, you and I

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Speaker 1: I don't think during the preseason so far have I

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Speaker 1: don't think we've dove into any power rankings at all

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Speaker 1: around the NFL. Let alone worked on getting angry about

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Speaker 1: to get worked up over people's subjective opinions over what

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Speaker 1: NFL teams look like. Um, and I have my first

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Speaker 1: set of power rankings that I've seen so far this preseason,

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Speaker 1: courtesy of of NFL dot Com. Yeah, and I in

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com. I'll tell you, I've always felt like

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Speaker 1: they're a little bit generous to the Texans in a

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Speaker 1: way that I have a hard time getting angry over them.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna have a hard time getting angry

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Speaker 1: over them right now with them right now, just because

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Speaker 1: they have the Texans pick sixteenth out of thirty two,

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Speaker 1: which is given the given the off season they had,

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Speaker 1: pretty fair when somebody picks the middle of the road. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I look, there's I mean, there's a couple of

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Speaker 1: they've won double digit games the last two years, they've

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Speaker 1: won the division for the last six years, they won

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Speaker 1: a playoff game last year. The flip side of that

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Speaker 1: is that when the when the knockout has come from

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. It has not been pretty at all. It's

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Speaker 1: not been competitive. And they were a team last year

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Speaker 1: that was ten and six, but their point differential was

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Speaker 1: a negative point differential for the year, so they won.

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Speaker 1: They won a lot of close games. I know some

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Speaker 1: people would say, well, those things tend to flip around,

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Speaker 1: and you know they go the other way the following year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man like Bill O'Brien, Like, we're six

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Speaker 1: years into Bill O'Brien now seth and other than the

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Speaker 1: year in twenty seventeen where the whole team got hurt

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Speaker 1: and they were four and twelve, Like that's if we're

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Speaker 1: eliminating the lowest test score, I'll eliminate that one for

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Speaker 1: sake of this argument. He's been above five hundred anywhere

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Speaker 1: between nine and seven and eleven and five the other

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Speaker 1: five years. In every single one of those years, it

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Speaker 1: feels like they play a lot of games that are

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Speaker 1: this tightrope act. But he finds a way to bring

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Speaker 1: the ship into shore more than the average coach does

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Speaker 1: around the NFL. So I don't know that I look

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Speaker 1: at this team and they go they were ten and six,

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Speaker 1: but did they really quote unquote deserve to be ten

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Speaker 1: and six last year. There may just be something in

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Speaker 1: the you know, Bill O'Brien being his detail oriented as

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Speaker 1: he is, Bill O'Brien being able to manage a game,

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Speaker 1: you know, some games, the games where they're ahead, the

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Speaker 1: way that he does that it's good enough to win

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Speaker 1: x amount of games every year. The stats people will

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Speaker 1: tell you that, yeah, winning one score games is almost

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Speaker 1: a coin flip and that it's random. O'Brien has done

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Speaker 1: it enough now that even a lot of the hardcore

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Speaker 1: can't say for sure that Bill O'Brien doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: knack for this. So even the guys that always want to,

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Speaker 1: and also if you look at like the Football Outsider

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Speaker 1: figure out just how good a team really was. The

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Speaker 1: Texans consistently outperformed their Dvoa too, and I'll give Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien credit for that. I do think it is something

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Speaker 1: There's something to be said for an ability to grind

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Speaker 1: out clock and win close games that way. So I

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Speaker 1: do I look at talent wise. I look at the

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Speaker 1: problems they had on defense and not a whole lot

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Speaker 1: I look at them as probably be an eight hundred team,

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Speaker 1: but that a five hundred team and eight and eight team,

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Speaker 1: but that has the Shawn Watson and perhaps also an

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Speaker 1: extra ability to win close games that would put them

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Speaker 1: like I couldn't realistically put them into the top ten

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Speaker 1: of NFL teams right now, but I think that they

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Speaker 1: could definitely go with greater than a five hundred win

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Speaker 1: loss records. Here's the part about these power rankings that

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Speaker 1: we're looking at. We're on It's Texans Training Camp special

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Speaker 1: in general, and Seth, the thing that concerns me is

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Speaker 1: not so much the Texans at sixteenth. I've looked at

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Speaker 1: enough power ranking taking through the years now that I

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Speaker 1: have the Texans ranked anywhere from fifteen to eighteen to

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Speaker 1: where I'm kind of desensitized to it now. The concerning

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Speaker 1: thing for me is, let me rattle off these teams

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Speaker 1: for you here, Kansas City one, Baltimore three, Tennessee five,

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Speaker 1: Green Bay eight, Indianapolis ten, Minnesota eleven, Pittsburgh twelve. That's one, two, three, four, five, six,

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Speaker 1: seven seven teams. Two of those teams you play twice,

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis and Tennessee. So nine of your sixteen games are

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Speaker 1: against teams that are at least according to this particular pundit.

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Speaker 1: And I you know, look, I can Tennessee. I think

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Speaker 1: they have a little high. Indie, I think they have

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Speaker 1: a little high. But let's just keep with this segment

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Speaker 1: as if we're looking at these power rankings legitimately here,

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Speaker 1: that's nine of your sixteen games against teams in the

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Speaker 1: top twelve in these power rankings, and Seth even taking

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Speaker 1: it one step further, Kansas City, Baltimore, Tennessee, Green Bay, Minnesota, Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: That's six of the top twelve. You play all six

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Speaker 1: of those teams before the bye week. I think that

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Speaker 1: book those are all gonna be really, really tough games.

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Speaker 1: I think that what I would look at, and at

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Speaker 1: least three of those matchups is Okay, do I have

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Speaker 1: the better quarterback? And yes, I think I do if

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Speaker 1: I look, um, look, I think Ryan Tannehill was the

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Speaker 1: over the second half of last season. But I think

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's a better quarterback than Ryan dannie Hill. I

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Speaker 1: think I think Deshawn's a better quarterback than Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: And then who, let's see who would be the third

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Speaker 1: one that I'm and Roethlisberger maybe coming off an injury. Yeah, Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 1: I'm high on Roethlisberger now effective, especially because he's apparently

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Speaker 1: the slimmest he's ever been. Um. Oh, Philip Rivers, I

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Speaker 1: would say Philip Rivers. Rivers, Yeah, Rivers isn't before the

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Speaker 1: bye week, but Rivers is definitely in those teams. I

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Speaker 1: just say they played both the Colts, they played both

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Speaker 1: like late in the season. But yeah, yeah, if you're

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Speaker 1: talking about within the division, Deshaun is clearly the elite

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Speaker 1: of the quarterback in this division, still no question. So.

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Speaker 1: But as far as the opponents that you're gonna play

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Speaker 1: this year, that can tip you over the edge when

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Speaker 1: it comes to those those really good opponents. How would like, Sean,

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Speaker 1: I love the thing that you do always before you

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Speaker 1: I would say where. So Yeah, for recreational purposes, when

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Speaker 1: you might say, okay, before I before I put in

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Speaker 1: this hypothetical bet, I'm gonna look at a picture of

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Speaker 1: of the two coaches. And how do I feel about it? Then?

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Speaker 1: Because if Jim tom Sula is the coach that I'm

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Speaker 1: I need to look him in the eye, Seth. I

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Speaker 1: need to look him in the eye. Yeah. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's it's as simple as it could be, But the

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Speaker 1: fact of the matter is, when you have Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: you have a chance to win a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of squeakers versus good teams in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Deshaun Watson or Aaron Rodgers. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, I think obviously, if you're talking about

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Speaker 1: for the next ten years, you know I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm talking about week seven of this year. Week seven,

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Speaker 1: I would say Deshaun Watson for this season based on

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Speaker 1: just what we saw of Aaron Rodgers last year. And

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Speaker 1: I know they won a whole bunch of games, but

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Speaker 1: that offense came and fits and starts, and I think

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Speaker 1: the the thing about that offense is, if you remember

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Speaker 1: Gary kubiak offense or Sean mcvay's offense, when it's working,

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Speaker 1: it needs to be run. It needs to be run

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Speaker 1: by the numbers, like you need to run it the

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Speaker 1: And everything we've learned about Aaron Rodgers in the last

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Speaker 1: few years, it seems that he doesn't necessarily like following

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Speaker 1: they're supposed to go. So I don't think that you

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Speaker 1: necessarily see this huge leap forward in the second year

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Speaker 1: when you have a system like this. This is like

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Speaker 1: a Kyle Shanahan system too. You set up the run,

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Speaker 1: you hit the edges in the run game, which sets

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Speaker 1: to do all those things. When Kyle Shanahan was in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: had one of the best seasons we've seen out of

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. I don't think you're gonna get that out

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Speaker 1: so and especially Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers does not have

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Speaker 1: ven wide receivers right this moment or the host of

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Speaker 1: receivers that Deshaun Watson does, so I think Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: that your time is coming, buddy. They didn't do anything

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01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:59,759
Speaker 1: So they'll be about halfway through the padded or allowed

1891
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: to be padded portion of practice leading up to September

1892
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:05,679
Speaker 1: tenth and the season opener, not just for the Texans

1893
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 1: but for the entire league, the season opener between the

1894
01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Texans on Thursday night, September the tenth.

1895
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 1: So they'll be back at it tomorrow and we'll have

1896
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 1: you updated on everything here. I'll be out of practice,

1897
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 1: maybe even poke my head in at some point with

1898
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: Wade and Cecil to give my updates on practice. Sean,

1899
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 1: now that you're out there is one of only ten

1900
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 1: medium members that I know. Not every medium member that's

1901
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 1: allowed out there can make it out there every day.

1902
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 1: But you're out there every day. Do you. I'm not

1903
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 1: throwing any shade at any other you know, absent tees,

1904
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: but you're out there every day. Yes. Are you starting

1905
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 1: to feel are you starting to feel like a certain

1906
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 1: maybe coziness with the players or the coaches that you

1907
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 1: might not normally have when there's a squadron of medium

1908
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 1: members out there. Yeah, a little bit. I mean it's yeah,

1909
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: I think there have been times where there have been

1910
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 1: coaches that have come over and chit chatted for a

1911
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 1: moment or two when they probably normally wouldn't do that.

1912
01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 1: Normally the sideline would be full of people who have

1913
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 1: guest passes to come to practice, you know that, you know,

1914
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: relatives of players and things like that. I mean, there's

1915
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 1: there are literally I mean it's it's literally that they're

1916
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 1: they're doing it at the same facility they always are

1917
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 1: outside with the two big fields there. They're doing all

1918
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 1: the eleven on eleven work on the field that's closer

1919
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: to Kirby, that's closer to the stadium, and it's so

1920
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 1: the same stuff is happening on the field as normal.

1921
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 1: Just the main differences there are literally only other than

1922
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 1: the players and the coaches, there's the necessary staff members,

1923
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, to the trainers and things like that, the

1924
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: medical folks, there's the ten of us in the media.

1925
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:37,839
Speaker 1: There are a few other media members that are allowed.

1926
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 1: If it's an outdoor practice, they're allowed to stand at

1927
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 1: at one far end of the sideline and watch. In fact,

1928
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:48,480
Speaker 1: Clint Sterner and Ron Hugeley got to do that yesterday

1929
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:50,160
Speaker 1: for the practice. There was an imp there were a

1930
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 1: couple of open spots in that small group of media

1931
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 1: that's allowed to go watch outdoor practices without having a

1932
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 1: test for the coronavirus, so they got to actually go

1933
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 1: watch yesterday. I went down though, and I actually I

1934
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 1: started talking to Clint for just a moment, and I

1935
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 1: got a warning. I got a warning. They said, no, no, no,

1936
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 1: he's tier three, you're Tier two M. You can't stand

1937
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 1: near him. And I'm like, but Clints, my friend, Well

1938
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 1: I can't, but I could be contaminated, can't I can't

1939
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: stay But Clints my friend, No, sorry, you can't stand

1940
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 1: near him. But he's a nice person. Nope, sorry, he's

1941
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 1: tier three. You are Tier two M. It's something out

1942
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:27,600
Speaker 1: of a science fiction movie in the future, you know,

1943
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,759
Speaker 1: where like you know, you're, you're you're what was it, Gattica,

1944
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 1: You're you're one of the genetically engineered ones And Clint

1945
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 1: Stirner is not right. There was a it's like there's

1946
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 1: a tattoo on the inside of my wrist, and they

1947
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 1: had the re show it to me, like look two am,

1948
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 1: you are a two. M he is a three. Get

1949
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 1: the hell away from him. That's funny. That helps out

1950
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 1: of the rookies in some respects because there's two things

1951
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,640
Speaker 1: that happen, and it happens a lot to rookies, and

1952
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:51,519
Speaker 1: I always felt awful about it. Well, I didn't feel

1953
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,880
Speaker 1: awful about the one thing, but when you're a rookie

1954
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 1: you learn real quick. Oh hey, there's a really like

1955
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:00,360
Speaker 1: an incredibly beautiful woman hand hanging out on the side line.

1956
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: Best not best not best not stare at her too

1957
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 1: long because that might be your veteran teammate's wife. And yeah,

1958
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 1: ye don't start making with Jeff Logaman's wife. And the

1959
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 1: other is the downside of it is man, This happened

1960
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 1: one year. We were doing one on one pass rush

1961
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 1: drills and it was one of the days where the

1962
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 1: public and family were allowed out there. In this one

1963
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 1: young defensive lineman he was a rookie, had a couple

1964
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 1: of really bad snaps and Todd Grantham, who's the defensive

1965
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 1: coordinator of Florida now, but is a lot of people

1966
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 1: in football though Todd Grantham has got a voice on him,

1967
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 1: and Todd just started ripping this guy up and down

1968
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:45,720
Speaker 1: in an extreme way. And I think it's because Todd

1969
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 1: actually liked the guy and was and really thought he

1970
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 1: had a chance, and he was just like trying to

1971
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 1: motivate him. But he was right in front of his

1972
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 1: wife and his two young daughters, and oh my gosh,

1973
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 1: I felt I felt bad for his kids. Probably still

1974
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,480
Speaker 1: carry that around with him to this day. Daddy, whatever

1975
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 1: happened to the bad man? Did he get, Daddy? Did

1976
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 1: he get what was coming to him? Actually he's pretty

1977
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 1: well rewarded. No thanks about a million a year coordinating

1978
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 1: a defense at Florida. It's Todd's awesome, Doda Like, Todd

1979
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 1: is just that kind of a coach. He's an old

1980
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 1: school coach. Yeah. No, And I would say set to

1981
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 1: you asked the question about you know, it's a smaller,

1982
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 1: sort of tighter group of people out there that are

1983
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 1: observing practices. You know. Um, I, at least for the

1984
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 1: first two indoor practices, I was able to conjure up

1985
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:36,400
Speaker 1: a small connection with Keion crossing the cornerback. He would

1986
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 1: come over and look at my notes that I was

1987
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,879
Speaker 1: jotting down in my in my notebook. A little skeptical

1988
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 1: at first, He's like, what are you writing down? Like

1989
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:44,760
Speaker 1: that's what it's like, what are you writing down those notes?

1990
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm actually writing high coups and he

1991
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 1: started laughing. So the next couple of times he would

1992
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 1: come over, he would ask how the high cus were going.

1993
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:52,800
Speaker 1: I said, they're going really well. I have not had

1994
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 1: a chance yet though, because he's been outdoor practices, and

1995
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, the outdoor practices, you don't get as close

1996
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 1: to the players, not nearly to the point where when

1997
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: they're doing drill like you were doing drills in the

1998
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 1: bubble and the player, the players are like when they

1999
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 1: get when they get through, they're part of the line

2000
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 1: and go back to the end of the line. They're

2001
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 1: standing next to you on the sideline right there practically. Um,

2002
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 1: so I haven't had a chance to you because they

2003
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 1: have them back inside. But I do have when when

2004
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 1: I am inside. I've got a special key on crossing

2005
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,559
Speaker 1: page in my notebook that I'm ready to show him

2006
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,680
Speaker 1: where I have three boxes for tough, smart, and dependable,

2007
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 1: all of them checked off. Yeah, so here's my evaluation

2008
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: of you. Yeah, he's probably gonna steal it from you

2009
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 1: the way they did. Who the player did that in

2010
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 1: a Browns game last year? Or was it a Bills game?

2011
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 1: Remember the polaroids where the polaroids or the call sheets

2012
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 1: or something we're wafting across the field. Opposing player got it.

2013
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:42,639
Speaker 1: I think that Keion Crossing from what I hear about

2014
01:41:42,720 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 1: Keion Crossing, who only got limited action last year and

2015
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 1: you know, is going to have a bigger chance this year.

2016
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 1: He seems like the kind of guy that if he is,

2017
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 1: if he is to be cut, it's gonna be really,

2018
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 1: really hard for Bill O'Brien to pull the trigger around him,

2019
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 1: because he really seems like one of those guys that

2020
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 1: bring a whole lot of positive energy to the defense.

2021
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:03,640
Speaker 1: You see him out there like I like, I'm not

2022
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 1: out of practice like you are. But I've seen at

2023
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:07,879
Speaker 1: least a couple of clips already of him basically entertaining

2024
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 1: the entire team during the stretch when he's dancing, singing

2025
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:14,839
Speaker 1: and everything. It doesn't stop. I said to somebody, maybe

2026
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 1: in OMAR or somebody in media relations, I can't remember,

2027
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 1: but I turned to them when Kean was doing key

2028
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 1: on things, and I'm going he must have been the

2029
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: hardest kindergartener to ever try to wrangle in back in

2030
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 1: the day. You know what I mean, Like, he strikes

2031
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 1: me as somebody who's probably very hyperactive as a kid. Well,

2032
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:32,200
Speaker 1: he's George Springer right in terms of energy and enthusiast. Yeah, no,

2033
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't. It remains to be seen if he's going

2034
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 1: to be the caliber of a a professional athlete that George

2035
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:39,840
Speaker 1: Springer is. But there's something about that enthusiasm and energy

2036
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 1: that as long as it's from a likable guy. Now,

2037
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 1: if it's from a non likable guy, and he seems

2038
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: like a likable guy, if it's from a non likable guy,

2039
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 1: that guy's gonna get beat with a bag of soap

2040
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:51,919
Speaker 1: at night. Um, you need to be the actually entertaining

2041
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 1: as you're being chatty all the time. He seems like

2042
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 1: he's that. And look, he said as a guy as

2043
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 1: we can segue right into this now on a Texans

2044
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 1: training camp special here presented by Xfinity on Sports Radio

2045
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 1: six ten. He was a guy who this time a

2046
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 1: year ago was not here. He was one of those

2047
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 1: guys set that on that swap meet Saturday that O'Brien

2048
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,799
Speaker 1: was conducting last year right before the start of the season.

2049
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 1: It got lost in the wash because That was the

2050
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: day they traded Clowney. That was a day they traded

2051
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 1: for Tunsul. That was a day they traded Ranking for Hyde.

2052
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 1: Keion Crossing was sort of a lower level deal, but

2053
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 1: it was a six round pick for Keion Crossing. It

2054
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 1: got me thinking as I started thinking about, Wow, we're

2055
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 1: going into the third preseason game. If you remember, Seth,

2056
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 1: you unit did the pregame last year together and we

2057
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:35,680
Speaker 1: would watch the road games together up here at at

2058
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 1: the studio. They were playing the Cowboys in the third

2059
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:42,639
Speaker 1: preseason game last year. That third preseason game last year,

2060
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 1: that night was a pretty pretty pivotal night for the

2061
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:49,559
Speaker 1: fortunes of a lot of people, both with the Texans

2062
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 1: and around the league. That was the night that the

2063
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:54,759
Speaker 1: Texans day. That was the night that that Lamar Miller

2064
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 1: tore his ACL so they had to go with a

2065
01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 1: complete plan B at running back. It winds up being

2066
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 1: Carlos Hide. You could argue that the ripple effect is

2067
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 1: still being felt and that David Johnson is now the

2068
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 1: guy here, you know, at that position. The bigger thing

2069
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 1: that probably happened that affected the Texans and the rest

2070
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:12,920
Speaker 1: of the league, that was the night that Andrew lux

2071
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:15,719
Speaker 1: retirement was announced by Adam Schefter right in the middle

2072
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 1: of that game where you and I are looking at

2073
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 1: our phones and we're searching for blue check marks, you know,

2074
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:26,800
Speaker 1: and we're going Schefter fa right or rap a poor

2075
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 1: fake account or something like that, and so so that's

2076
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 1: that's why, that's why I got the thing. I like, Okay, man,

2077
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 1: you know this is this is a reminder that a

2078
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:37,800
Speaker 1: lot's changed in a year, you know. I know it

2079
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:40,599
Speaker 1: feels like the Texans. It's Deshaun Watson, it's j J. Watt,

2080
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 1: it's this it's that Bill O'Brien's here going into a

2081
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 1: seventh year. But there's there's a lot that's changed for

2082
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 1: this team just in a year, both both in their

2083
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 1: building and outside of their building. And I just wanted

2084
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 1: to kind of bang through them rapid fire style and

2085
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:56,000
Speaker 1: just get your thoughts on each of these and just

2086
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, see see where you feel, how

2087
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 1: big you feel the effect has been on the team

2088
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 1: of these we'll go through the improvements here first, but

2089
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:06,680
Speaker 1: I mentioned Lamar Miller. Do you feel like, even with

2090
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller, but certainly with an injured Lamar Miller, do

2091
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 1: you feel like the Texans are in a better place

2092
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 1: now with a Duke Johnson David Johnson backfield than they

2093
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 1: were this time a year ago with Lamar Miller. You

2094
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,759
Speaker 1: could make that argument on paper just because Duke Johnson

2095
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 1: and well, no, because because let's remember, Lamar Miller was

2096
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 1: a receiving threat too. It never felt like he was

2097
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 1: used exactly that way. And Lamar Miller, David Duke Johnson,

2098
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 1: David Johnson, they're all capable. Why they're they're all capable receivers.

2099
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 1: You've got you've got to compliment that by running the

2100
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Speaker 1: ball well. And I think that Lamar Miller still had

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Speaker 1: more in the tank as an actual lineup behind the

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the center and run downhill type of running

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Speaker 1: back than David Johnson and Duke Johnson both too. Those

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01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 1: guys are at this stage in David Johnson's career. I

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01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:55,479
Speaker 1: think that I respect them a whole lot more as

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Speaker 1: a pass catcher, but not necessarily that somebody that's gonna

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Speaker 1: stress and test defenses when he's running in the conventional

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01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:05,759
Speaker 1: pass game. So if those guys are going to be better,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna have to be because David Johnson is that

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Speaker 1: much more of a physical freak and that much more

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Speaker 1: elusive as a receiver than Lamar Miller. So I'll give

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Speaker 1: it a slight I guess I'll give it a slight

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Speaker 1: nod to this year. But I do think they are

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Speaker 1: losing something in Lamar Miller, who who frankly, also, by

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Speaker 1: the way, was part of why the Texans had been

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01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 1: able to win closer games over these last few years.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Miller's Lamar Miller's whole stay here kind of almost

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Speaker 1: feels like a dream, doesn't it. Yeah, not a dream,

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Speaker 1: like it's like, oh my gosh, my dreams came true,

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Speaker 1: but just it doesn't almost seem real. It feels like

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01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:39,679
Speaker 1: it feels like he was here on a hotel stay

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01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 1: and now he's gone, and he didn't he didn't leave

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01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 1: a tip for the mayor, especially because he was I

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01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: don't think he was used the way he envisioned being

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01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 1: used when he got here. You know, he was being

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01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 1: used a lot between the tackles. It really wore on him.

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01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 1: I thought his first year when Brock was a quarterback

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Speaker 1: here the wide receiving corps. Hopkins isn't here anymore. And

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Speaker 1: you and I talked about this a little bit earlier,

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01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: but I feel better about the overall receiving chords just

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01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 1: because it's much much deeper with capable veteran guys. Now, yeah,

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01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 1: O'Brien needs to be talking about having layers and layers

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Speaker 1: of players, and this is where I am so far

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01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:16,040
Speaker 1: in this offseason slash preseason. I like and appreciate what

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01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and Jack Easterby's plan is. I like the

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01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 1: notion of having a veteran team that is very thick

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01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:25,600
Speaker 1: throughout the middle in terms of your talent level. You

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01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 1: don't have to necessarily have a whole bunch of superstars,

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01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 1: but do you want to have quality veteran pros. I

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01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 1: like that concept in that notion, but they have to

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01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 1: show to me that they can pull it off right now,

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01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 1: so they're not there yet. I like and appreciate the philosophy,

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01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:43,600
Speaker 1: but it's up to Deshaun Watson and Tim Kelly and

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01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien to really show that they can pull it off.

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01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 1: I see where they want to go, and I'm gonna

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01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 1: wait and see if they get there before I say that, Yeah,

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01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 1: this is a better receiving cord right now. This time

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01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 1: a year ago, Kenny Stills was not on this team.

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01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 1: He came over in the tuncil trade. So the third, fourth,

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01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 1: and fifth receivers on this team were Qt Carter and

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01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 1: Stevie Mitchell this time last year. You know that you

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01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 1: and now you're third and fourth receivers are Kenny Stills

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01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 1: and Randall Cobb. Oh. Yeah, they're definitely there, undred percent deeper. Deeper, Yeah,

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01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 1: definitely deeper. The offensive line, Steff. This time a year ago,

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01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 1: Seantrelle Henderson, Julian Davenport, and Matt Khalil were in a

2156
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 1: three way battle for the two tackle spots on this team. Yeah,

2157
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 1: and I kept it. I kept I kept having these

2158
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:24,000
Speaker 1: conversations with people. They were telling me that Matt Khalil

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01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:26,599
Speaker 1: would be fine at left tackle, and I would just

2160
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 1: I would stand there with my jaw wide open and ask,

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Speaker 1: what are you basing this on? Like you're certainly not

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01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 1: basing it from any recent film, and you're certainly not

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01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 1: basing it from what I've seen in training camp. I mean,

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01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 1: there was a train wreck out there. He was getting Sean.

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01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 1: I saw a play where he got bull rushed into

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01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback where the defensive end wasn't even trying to

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01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:46,560
Speaker 1: bull rush him. Like that's how bad Matt Khalil was

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Speaker 1: going to be for the Texans, so O'Brien, I think O'Brien,

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01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 1: who was just taking over from Brian Gaine at that point,

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01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 1: I can't understand exactly why he was so desperate to

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01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:58,880
Speaker 1: get Laramie Tunsel in here, especially because he'd waited a

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01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:01,880
Speaker 1: whole long time for it to happen. And if he's

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01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,320
Speaker 1: staring there looking at Matt Khalil at the stage he

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Speaker 1: was in his career, and I'm guessing Matt Khalil's not

2175
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:09,639
Speaker 1: currently on a roster right now. If he isn't fire

2176
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:11,639
Speaker 1: that gem and he got him mercy on the soul

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01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:13,800
Speaker 1: of the quarterback, he's yeah, yeah, I mean it was

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01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:15,639
Speaker 1: just that. I'm not trying to pick on Matcalil. Matt

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01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 1: Kalil did some really good things in his career, but

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01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 1: by the time the Texans got him and paid him

2181
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:20,880
Speaker 1: a good chunk of money, by the way, he was

2182
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 1: a he was a used up shell of a of

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01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 1: a football player. So um, yeah, I feel Let's see,

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01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:28,879
Speaker 1: how many times better do I feel about the offensive

2185
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:32,000
Speaker 1: line right now than I did this time last year?

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01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 1: I would say seven times better, seven times better, seven

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01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:39,599
Speaker 1: times better. Yeah, it's a boy. Just those names make

2188
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 1: you shudder. Henderson Davenport and Khalil Seth. We were two

2189
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 1: weeks into the Jadeveon Clowney to the Dolphins trade rumors

2190
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 1: at this time last year, So like, ever gonna happen?

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01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 1: Charge that's ridiculous, Like I mean, if you're gonna sit

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01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:57,600
Speaker 1: here and listen to all of these fake reports and

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01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 1: what have you, no, no way not gonna happen. Well,

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01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 1: it didn't happen to the Dolphins. It happened to the Seahawks.

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01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 1: But I guess I don't know. I this made be

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01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:08,599
Speaker 1: more of something that makes O'Brien feel better than fans

2197
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 1: feel better about the team. But I do think there's

2198
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 1: probably a zen about O'Brien with this. And I'm not

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01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 1: here to say Bill O'Brien is now this calm guy

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01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 1: like we were all saying last year. He will probably

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01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 1: have his moments at some point where there's an explosion

2202
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:24,720
Speaker 1: or two for that you were partially responsible, no doubt,

2203
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 1: like the rush. But Seth, don't you feel like And

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01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 1: this isn't to say that DeAndre Hopkins and Devion Clowney

2205
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 1: are bad people or anything, but I think it's safe

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01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:38,080
Speaker 1: to say that their view of what football was all

2207
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 1: about didn't necessarily intersect with what Bill O'Brien's view of

2208
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 1: football was all about. That that Hopkins and Clowney are

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01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 1: somewhere else now as opposed to embroiled in some sort

2210
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:51,920
Speaker 1: of contract dispute or um turning down trades to the

2211
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 1: Dolphins sitting at home on the franchise tag. I gotta

2212
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,879
Speaker 1: feel like Bill O'Brien that that whatever percentage of calmness

2213
01:50:57,880 --> 01:50:59,600
Speaker 1: he's feeling right now, a big chunk of it is

2214
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:01,680
Speaker 1: just that he's like, he's looking around, he's going these

2215
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:03,640
Speaker 1: are these are the guys that sort of fit the

2216
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 1: code that I'm trying to go here. This is um

2217
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 1: And this is where it gets interesting, because I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of NFL coaches right now, for good reason,

2219
01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 1: are very very concerned with culture culture matters on a

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01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 1: football team. I worry sometimes though, that they've lost sight

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01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 1: of the fact that generally, unless you're the New England Patriots,

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01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:22,679
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a couple of guys on your team,

2223
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:25,840
Speaker 1: even if you're a super Bowl caliber team that don't

2224
01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 1: necessarily check off all the boxes when it comes to

2225
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, hardcore, blue collar that's the guy that you

2226
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 1: know you want your son to play in practice. Like

2227
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 1: that's just life in the NFL. But because Belichick has

2228
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 1: focused so much on culture, I think sometimes people attribute

2229
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:42,640
Speaker 1: it a little bit too much to that because I

2230
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:45,640
Speaker 1: just wonder, I wonder how much that culture in New

2231
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 1: England's going to help them this year. Like if if

2232
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 1: a culture they're way to twelve and four, then I'll

2233
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,920
Speaker 1: be a true and complete convert. But I think that

2234
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 1: culture can take you certain places. Um that when you

2235
01:51:57,240 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 1: have Tom Brady, that is not going to take you

2236
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,120
Speaker 1: when you don't have Tom Brady. Right. How about these

2237
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 1: names at the top of the cornerback chart this time

2238
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:05,719
Speaker 1: of year ago, seth As we are going through what's

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01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 1: changed in a year with the Texans here on Texans

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Speaker 1: Training Camp special on Sports Radio six ten. Aaron Colvin

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Speaker 1: and Jonathan Joseph were at the top of the depth

2242
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Speaker 1: chart this time a year ago. Yeah, and Jonathan Joseph's

2243
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna be in Tennessee this year. I think that Joseph flick.

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01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 1: We saw the writing on the wall. I was kind

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01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 1: of surprised that Jonathan Joseph didn't retire this year, and

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01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 1: God bless him for for continuing to play m but

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01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 1: he was. He's old for a cornerback. You know, it's

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01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 1: amazing that he's out there. Uh. And then as far

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01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:35,840
Speaker 1: as Aaron Colvin, I guess my wish would have been

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Speaker 1: that they would have figured it out before week one

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01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:40,200
Speaker 1: versus the Saints. I mean you might have. You might

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01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 1: have won that game versus the Saints very easily could

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01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 1: have won that game versus the Saints with somebody other

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01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 1: than Aaron Colvin in there. Yea, And the big one

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. This time a year ago, Andrew Luck was

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Speaker 1: still in Indianapolis. Colt, where's Andrew Luck right this moment?

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Speaker 1: Do you think? I bet he's in Italy like sketching architect.

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01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:57,559
Speaker 1: Do you think during the coronavirus he went to Italy?

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01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 1: You think, oh, that's a good point. He went to Stanford.

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Speaker 1: Step I don't think you went to Italy during the

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Speaker 1: girl out and let that nasty beard in any other

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Speaker 1: country infested face that. Here's here's Liscomb. All right, seth,

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Speaker 1: go enjoy the rest of your weekend, my man. I'll

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01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,680
Speaker 1: see you at six am on Monday. Antibodies to you,

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01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:21,520
Speaker 1: my friend, antibodies and t cells to you. Stay sanitized.

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Speaker 1: All right, there it is. That's Seth Payne. You can

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Speaker 1: catch him Monday morning with me Sean Pendergast six am

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Speaker 1: on Payne and Pendergast here on Sports Radio six ten.

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Speaker 1: getting ready for the NFL season, which begins right here

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Speaker 1: joining me Sean Pendergast here on Texans Radio. Clint, it

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Speaker 1: is great to see you. It was great seeing you

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Speaker 1: out of practice yesterday, even though when I got near

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Speaker 1: I don't like to get elitist like that, but unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: I you know, they told me. I'm like, but Clint's

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Speaker 1: to hang out with people in every tier. I just

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get where you're at. I love hanging

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Speaker 1: around people that have been trying to get to Tier

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Speaker 1: two M. Yeah, yeah, I mean just in radio and

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Speaker 1: with the Texans everything, Like I love to hang around

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Speaker 1: Joe Ferguson and Wade Wilson from a quarterback coach each one.

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Speaker 1: I'm played about eighteen years in the league. I was

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Speaker 1: chasing them jokers, and now I'm in a radio business

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Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to get where you're at, brothers.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm just happy to keep company and

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Speaker 1: get you in trouble from time. Well, it was great

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Speaker 1: seeing you out there yesterday, and obviously great listening to

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Speaker 1: you guys in the afternoon, and they look plenty of

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Speaker 1: people have hurt My observations on what's gone on the

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Speaker 1: first six practices out there. It was shells yesterday, so

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Speaker 1: it wasn't the same sort of hitting that's been going on,

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Speaker 1: no pads, But I would imagine as a former quarterback,

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Speaker 1: there was plenty that you saw going on out there

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Speaker 1: that's applicable to the upcoming season. What did you see

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Speaker 1: out there yesterday that that would get Texan fans a

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Speaker 1: little bit excited? Well, I think there's a few things, man.

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Speaker 1: And first of all, I was extremely impressed with the

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Speaker 1: attention to detail by Bill O'Brien. I mean, Bill Parcels

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Speaker 1: is the coach that I had that opened my eyes

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Speaker 1: to the true details of the game. And really the

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Speaker 1: difference between a coach that literally flips every stone and

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Speaker 1: coaches every detail versus what I had experienced in before Parcels,

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Speaker 1: and even after Parsels I had. That's Bill Parcels is

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Speaker 1: the only guy that I ever witnessed coach those kind

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Speaker 1: of details. Hey, you got four seconds on the clock.

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Speaker 1: It's fourth and four, we're up by five, We got

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Speaker 1: the lead. The game's over, but we gotta punt. We

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Speaker 1: gotta risk DeShawn Jackson returning the punt like he did

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Speaker 1: against the giants back in the day to win the game,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, no, No, we're not gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take the snap. Deshawn's gonna drop back and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna through it as high and as far as

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Speaker 1: you can. The clock doesn't stop until the ball hits

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Speaker 1: the ground, so you don't have to run another play.

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Speaker 1: The game is over. You don't risk losing the game.

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Speaker 1: And though that is seems like a very simple detail,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't learn that until until I spent time

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Speaker 1: with Parcels and to see Bill O'Brien yesterday dedicate an

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Speaker 1: entire practice to special teams in those types of situations.

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about third down, not talking about fourth down,

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Speaker 1: not talking about red zone situations, literally situations that will

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Speaker 1: give an an opponent another chance to tie the game

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Speaker 1: or win the game, versus the game being completely over

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Speaker 1: and never given him a chance. First and foremost, I

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Speaker 1: was impressed with the fact that he had dedicated one

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Speaker 1: of very few opportunities to be with his team to

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Speaker 1: that kind of detail. He's been doing a ton of

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Speaker 1: situational and they do a ton of situational stuff during

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Speaker 1: regular training camps too, but it feels like it's been

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Speaker 1: an overabundance of situational stuff that they've been doing this camp,

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Speaker 1: and I think some of that maybe to get the

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Speaker 1: two coordinators ready for the season two. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like Anthony Weaver, this is the first

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Speaker 1: time he's calling defenses. Tim Kelly's the first time he's

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Speaker 1: calling plays. So that's how you get those guys ready

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Speaker 1: as well as just you know, try to do it

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Speaker 1: as much like live bullets are flying, especially with no

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Speaker 1: preseason games and joint practices. You look at it like

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Speaker 1: if Bill O'Brien truly is pulling back the hand the

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Speaker 1: hands from the play calling duties, like it's not his concern.

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Speaker 1: He's delegated. Hey, Tim, you gotta get these guys ready

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Speaker 1: to play offensive football. It's my job as the head

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Speaker 1: coach to flip every stone in terms of situational football

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Speaker 1: to prepare them for those moments. I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 1: the situation, Tim Kelly, you better have a play, or

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Speaker 1: AJ McCarron, Deshaun Watson, y'all better have a play. And

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Speaker 1: if you don't, we're gonna go back in the meeting room.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about it. We're gonna get it fixed.

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Speaker 1: But it's my job as the head coach of the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans to put y'all in these situations and make

2498
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Speaker 1: sure you have answers and it's not a game time decision.

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Speaker 1: And so this maybe, and he's I know, he's always

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Speaker 1: He's from the Belichick tree, which is from the Parcels tree.

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Speaker 1: He's always been a detailed guy. If you lined all

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Speaker 1: the coaches up across the board, I don't care what

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Speaker 1: you think of one through thirty two, but in terms

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Speaker 1: of details, I guarantee you because of his experience with

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Speaker 1: Belichick and Parcels, he ranks on the high end, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the part of the top ten of coaches that

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Speaker 1: just address and pay attention, give attention to the details

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Speaker 1: you wonder how do they win eleven games? How do

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Speaker 1: they win divisions? How are they always in the playoffs? Well,

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Speaker 1: culture and the details of the game are a big

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Speaker 1: part of that. I'm glad you said that because Seth

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Speaker 1: and I were talking about that a little earlier in

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Speaker 1: the show. We were talking about power rankings, and maybe

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Speaker 1: you and I'll dive into these power rankings a little

2516
02:06:08,120 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 1: later in the NFL. There's one particular set that came

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02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:13,120
Speaker 1: out on NFL dot Com. It's one person's opinion, but

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02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:15,040
Speaker 1: it's fun to dive into it sometimes because it gives

2519
02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:17,800
Speaker 1: you talking points. The Texans were sixteenth and these power rankings,

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02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:21,160
Speaker 1: which I think probably encapsulates the feeling around football of

2521
02:06:21,200 --> 02:06:23,960
Speaker 1: the Texans right now, which is nobody knows which direction

2522
02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:25,840
Speaker 1: this team is going to go this year. There's a

2523
02:06:25,880 --> 02:06:28,400
Speaker 1: lot of arguments you can make that they may backslide.

2524
02:06:28,640 --> 02:06:30,720
Speaker 1: There's some arguments you can make that they are better

2525
02:06:31,080 --> 02:06:33,840
Speaker 1: than they were, certainly this time last year, because they

2526
02:06:33,840 --> 02:06:37,400
Speaker 1: hadn't acquired Laramie Tunstall and Kenny Stills and Duke Johnson

2527
02:06:37,560 --> 02:06:40,000
Speaker 1: was just barely here. And there's other guys on the

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02:06:40,080 --> 02:06:42,240
Speaker 1: team now that are that are that are here as

2529
02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:43,960
Speaker 1: well that are new faces. We know the faces that

2530
02:06:44,040 --> 02:06:47,600
Speaker 1: have left since then. But when you argue the case

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02:06:48,280 --> 02:06:51,080
Speaker 1: that they could go backwards this year, they were ten

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02:06:51,120 --> 02:06:52,960
Speaker 1: and six last year, but they had a negative point

2533
02:06:53,000 --> 02:06:54,760
Speaker 1: differential for the whole season. You know they they had

2534
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:57,320
Speaker 1: They were ten and six, but their opponents outscored them

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02:06:57,440 --> 02:07:00,600
Speaker 1: cumulatively for the year. So they played a lot of

2536
02:07:00,640 --> 02:07:02,400
Speaker 1: close games and they won a lot of close games,

2537
02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:05,680
Speaker 1: and the argument that statistical people will make stat heads

2538
02:07:05,680 --> 02:07:07,120
Speaker 1: will make will be well, when you win a lot

2539
02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:09,040
Speaker 1: of close games, that stuff tends to even out the

2540
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 1: following season. But Bill O'Brien's been doing this for six

2541
02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:17,360
Speaker 1: years now, and when you eliminate twenty seventeen from the argument,

2542
02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:19,440
Speaker 1: that was a year Deshaun got hurt and JJ got

2543
02:07:19,520 --> 02:07:21,560
Speaker 1: hurt and everybody got hurt, and they go four and twelve.

2544
02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:23,320
Speaker 1: So let's pretend it's like a college course where you

2545
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:26,160
Speaker 1: eliminate your low score and you're grading the rest of

2546
02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:28,400
Speaker 1: the semester based on the other grades. Well, in all

2547
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:31,040
Speaker 1: those other five seasons, he's been nine and seven, ten

2548
02:07:31,120 --> 02:07:34,400
Speaker 1: and six, or eleven and five. In point deferential wise,

2549
02:07:34,440 --> 02:07:36,400
Speaker 1: it has not been a massive point deferential in any

2550
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:38,400
Speaker 1: of those seasons. And in those nine and seven seasons

2551
02:07:38,480 --> 02:07:42,400
Speaker 1: he's cobbling those seasons together with not Deshaun Watson at quarterback,

2552
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:45,200
Speaker 1: he's winning a lot of close games. It does reach

2553
02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:49,320
Speaker 1: a point where it does become a skill, you know,

2554
02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:51,680
Speaker 1: or a talent, even for Bill O'Brien to be able

2555
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:55,080
Speaker 1: to manage his way through close games. I know people

2556
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 1: will argue he makes some wonky game management decisions sometimes,

2557
02:07:58,640 --> 02:08:00,960
Speaker 1: and he has he's made some questionable game management decisions.

2558
02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:03,840
Speaker 1: That doesn't detract from the overall bigger picture, which is

2559
02:08:03,880 --> 02:08:06,320
Speaker 1: the more important part, which is the final record. And

2560
02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:09,360
Speaker 1: and I thought, hearing you talk about that yesterday with

2561
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,680
Speaker 1: show on your show, would that that's where I was

2562
02:08:12,760 --> 02:08:15,720
Speaker 1: connecting the dots. I'm going this makes Clint's observations about

2563
02:08:15,720 --> 02:08:17,600
Speaker 1: the level of detail. And Clint a guy who's played

2564
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:20,240
Speaker 1: for a ton of coaches who clearly don't exercise the

2565
02:08:20,320 --> 02:08:23,960
Speaker 1: same attention to detail that O'Brien was exercising yesterday. That's

2566
02:08:23,960 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 1: why I'm really glad it's you that's talking about it,

2567
02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:27,200
Speaker 1: because you've you've you've had a lot of coaches that

2568
02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:30,520
Speaker 1: you've played for through the years, including some great coaches

2569
02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:34,840
Speaker 1: that connecting the dots going, ah, this, this may be

2570
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:38,160
Speaker 1: this preparation, the devil being in the details in August

2571
02:08:38,240 --> 02:08:41,160
Speaker 1: and September may be the reason why they're able to

2572
02:08:41,280 --> 02:08:44,880
Speaker 1: cobble out of you know, a twenty one seventeen when

2573
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:46,880
Speaker 1: where maybe they didn't bring their a game that day,

2574
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:49,280
Speaker 1: but they manage their way through the game. It doesn't

2575
02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:52,520
Speaker 1: necessarily raise your ceiling, right, I mean, but it definitely

2576
02:08:52,640 --> 02:08:55,280
Speaker 1: raises your floor and it's a good way to put it.

2577
02:08:55,320 --> 02:08:58,320
Speaker 1: It definitely allows you as an organization to do more

2578
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:01,040
Speaker 1: with less. I mean, I mean, I'll argue that it

2579
02:09:01,240 --> 02:09:04,600
Speaker 1: is absolute thinking back to twenty eighteen with that offensive line,

2580
02:09:04,640 --> 02:09:08,200
Speaker 1: sean to think that they were able to put a

2581
02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 1: team on the field that could win enough games to

2582
02:09:10,440 --> 02:09:12,840
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs in twenty eighteen with that offensive line.

2583
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:16,960
Speaker 1: And look, I think Deshaun Watsons is I mean, top

2584
02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:20,400
Speaker 1: five quarterback in this league right now. I still think

2585
02:09:20,440 --> 02:09:23,000
Speaker 1: it's it's looking back in hindsight, it's amazing that they

2586
02:09:23,080 --> 02:09:25,400
Speaker 1: put a team on the field for sixteen games that

2587
02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:27,400
Speaker 1: was able to get to the playoffs with that offensive line.

2588
02:09:27,800 --> 02:09:29,920
Speaker 1: Last year, it was amazing that they were able to

2589
02:09:29,960 --> 02:09:35,880
Speaker 1: win eleven football games with the injuries and the injury

2590
02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:37,800
Speaker 1: to J. J. Watt and how there was just the

2591
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:40,520
Speaker 1: pass rush was just non existing. It was gone, right.

2592
02:09:40,600 --> 02:09:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean, so not just the injuries, but the impact

2593
02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:45,720
Speaker 1: of those specific injuries on the defensive side of the football.

2594
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:47,640
Speaker 1: The fact that they were able to win eleven games

2595
02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 1: and get to the second round of the playoffs is

2596
02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:50,760
Speaker 1: one of those you just go, how do the hell

2597
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:53,960
Speaker 1: did that happen. Well, you go back to that great culture.

2598
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:56,360
Speaker 1: There's no there's no look what's going on in Baltimore

2599
02:09:56,440 --> 02:09:57,880
Speaker 1: right now. They're having to figure out what they're gonna

2600
02:09:57,880 --> 02:10:01,000
Speaker 1: do with Earl Thomas because and for people haven't heard that,

2601
02:10:01,120 --> 02:10:03,400
Speaker 1: we share the story here just real quick because there

2602
02:10:03,400 --> 02:10:05,480
Speaker 1: may be people what happened with Earl time it's a Saturday,

2603
02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:07,040
Speaker 1: you know people have been doing Oh yeah, well this

2604
02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:09,400
Speaker 1: pulled this this look Sean. I started talking about this

2605
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 1: Friday man because I think I think there's something wrong,

2606
02:10:12,760 --> 02:10:16,040
Speaker 1: like like he's there's clearly some problems other than just

2607
02:10:16,760 --> 02:10:18,280
Speaker 1: not being able to get along with teammates. But Earl

2608
02:10:18,360 --> 02:10:20,600
Speaker 1: Thomas got into it on the practice field with another

2609
02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:22,400
Speaker 1: safety that was I think was a fifth round draft

2610
02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:25,080
Speaker 1: pick last year or something, um, a couple of years ago,

2611
02:10:25,120 --> 02:10:27,880
Speaker 1: but another safety on the Baltimore rail Clark is his name. Yeah,

2612
02:10:27,880 --> 02:10:30,080
Speaker 1: they got into an argument, got into an altercation at

2613
02:10:30,120 --> 02:10:33,440
Speaker 1: practice to the point where um Hardball, the head coach

2614
02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:35,280
Speaker 1: of the Ravens, had to send him home for the day.

2615
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:37,960
Speaker 1: Uh don't believe he came back the next day for practice,

2616
02:10:38,040 --> 02:10:40,520
Speaker 1: kept him today. Yeah, not real sure what they're gonna do,

2617
02:10:40,520 --> 02:10:42,680
Speaker 1: are They're gonna split ties with him. If they do

2618
02:10:42,840 --> 02:10:44,480
Speaker 1: end up splitting ties, I think it's gonna be hit

2619
02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:46,280
Speaker 1: him for ten million dollars, which will give him. He

2620
02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:48,840
Speaker 1: played one season last year with Baltimore. They paid him

2621
02:10:48,880 --> 02:10:51,800
Speaker 1: twenty two million dollars. That was guaranteed. I believe there's

2622
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:54,360
Speaker 1: some there's some details that they maybe able to get

2623
02:10:54,360 --> 02:10:56,520
Speaker 1: out of some of that guaranteed money. But nonetheless, you

2624
02:10:56,640 --> 02:10:58,720
Speaker 1: got a one of the best safeties in the league

2625
02:10:58,720 --> 02:11:01,880
Speaker 1: from a talent standpoint, that is clearly causing problems in

2626
02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:03,760
Speaker 1: the locker room to the point of where they're fighting.

2627
02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:06,680
Speaker 1: This ain't the first time that he's had arguments with teammates.

2628
02:11:06,680 --> 02:11:10,520
Speaker 1: I think something happened last year in the Ravens locker room, clearly,

2629
02:11:10,600 --> 02:11:12,120
Speaker 1: you know what. I think people know what happened in

2630
02:11:12,160 --> 02:11:14,280
Speaker 1: the offseason where his wife pulled a gun on him

2631
02:11:14,280 --> 02:11:17,080
Speaker 1: and just all this crazy stuff end in Seattle. He's

2632
02:11:17,080 --> 02:11:19,760
Speaker 1: flipping off peak Carroll it off the field. I mean,

2633
02:11:19,920 --> 02:11:21,920
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas has had some issues for a while. Well,

2634
02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:23,880
Speaker 1: if you look at those eight to the last eighteen

2635
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:25,320
Speaker 1: months of his life, I look at it and go,

2636
02:11:25,400 --> 02:11:28,000
Speaker 1: hey man, football to football aside, there's some issues there.

2637
02:11:28,040 --> 02:11:30,440
Speaker 1: There's something going on. I mean, he's posting game film

2638
02:11:31,320 --> 02:11:33,800
Speaker 1: on social media and stuff. But my point is is

2639
02:11:34,360 --> 02:11:37,960
Speaker 1: that the culture that Bill O'Brien has built, that kind

2640
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:40,560
Speaker 1: of thing doesn't exist. And I know people, I know

2641
02:11:40,640 --> 02:11:43,040
Speaker 1: people want to sit around and go, well, yeah, you know,

2642
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:45,440
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes you gotta forgive and forget and move on.

2643
02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:48,040
Speaker 1: And he's talented player and man to hell with that.

2644
02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:52,880
Speaker 1: The culture, the power of a great culture, I think

2645
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:55,680
Speaker 1: is what you've seen Bill O'Brien has built, and it's

2646
02:11:55,680 --> 02:11:58,760
Speaker 1: allowed them to build an amazing foundation that you can

2647
02:11:58,840 --> 02:12:02,120
Speaker 1: overcome the worst offensive line play in the game. You

2648
02:12:02,160 --> 02:12:06,400
Speaker 1: can overcome signing brock Oswall or that quarterback and getting

2649
02:12:06,480 --> 02:12:09,240
Speaker 1: that level of quarterback playing steel get to the playoffs.

2650
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:10,880
Speaker 1: It's not enough to win a super Bowl, but it

2651
02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:13,560
Speaker 1: damn sure is enough, sean to get you your team

2652
02:12:13,640 --> 02:12:17,640
Speaker 1: to a point where, boy, your floor is really really high. Yeah. Well,

2653
02:12:17,680 --> 02:12:20,040
Speaker 1: in the main component of that is Deshaun Watson obviously,

2654
02:12:20,120 --> 02:12:21,600
Speaker 1: Like if you you know, if you put a quarterback

2655
02:12:21,640 --> 02:12:23,280
Speaker 1: behind a line like that and he's getting his head

2656
02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:25,040
Speaker 1: handed to him every week, there's a lot of quarterbacks

2657
02:12:25,120 --> 02:12:27,880
Speaker 1: that would be spouting off in the media or showing

2658
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:31,080
Speaker 1: discontent behind the scenes. Man, there's no better soldier than

2659
02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:33,880
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, at least from what we know, than Deshaun Watson.

2660
02:12:33,920 --> 02:12:36,240
Speaker 1: When it comes to playing. My son's text to me today.

2661
02:12:36,280 --> 02:12:38,040
Speaker 1: My older son texts me, how would y'all feel about

2662
02:12:38,040 --> 02:12:43,680
Speaker 1: the Texans getting Earl Thomas? My sons are such cutthroat mercenaries. Man,

2663
02:12:44,080 --> 02:12:46,160
Speaker 1: as soon as a good player hits the market, it

2664
02:12:46,160 --> 02:12:48,160
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how big an a hole the guy is. Like, Hey,

2665
02:12:48,200 --> 02:12:51,360
Speaker 1: what do you think about this guy? I'm like, I said, Turtle. Man, Like,

2666
02:12:51,560 --> 02:12:53,720
Speaker 1: it's my son, James. His nickname is Turtle. I said, Turtle.

2667
02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:56,480
Speaker 1: It's not Madden. You know. Like the fact that this

2668
02:12:56,600 --> 02:12:58,640
Speaker 1: guy is a bit of a loon right now is

2669
02:12:58,680 --> 02:13:00,760
Speaker 1: going to factor in in the locker room here, says

2670
02:13:00,840 --> 02:13:02,240
Speaker 1: I just text back, I'll tell you what. I don't

2671
02:13:02,240 --> 02:13:05,040
Speaker 1: see it happening. Yeah, no, I don't think And usually look,

2672
02:13:05,080 --> 02:13:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm one that I go, hey, Jack and beal Man,

2673
02:13:07,480 --> 02:13:10,000
Speaker 1: Let's let's take a take a risk here and there

2674
02:13:10,040 --> 02:13:12,640
Speaker 1: on some players and get that. Let's take that next step,

2675
02:13:12,720 --> 02:13:15,120
Speaker 1: give you that that next layer of defense or that

2676
02:13:15,280 --> 02:13:17,520
Speaker 1: next layer of speed on offense. I'm all about taking

2677
02:13:17,960 --> 02:13:19,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of a risk, But this is one

2678
02:13:20,080 --> 02:13:21,720
Speaker 1: for me. Man. When I look at Earl Thomas, I

2679
02:13:21,800 --> 02:13:24,360
Speaker 1: think there's some bigger issues. Clearly, you don't. I don't

2680
02:13:24,400 --> 02:13:26,480
Speaker 1: think that Bill O'Brien and Jack Eason would ever look

2681
02:13:26,520 --> 02:13:28,480
Speaker 1: at a guy that's getting released from a team because

2682
02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:30,080
Speaker 1: he appears to be a cancer in a locker room,

2683
02:13:30,280 --> 02:13:32,320
Speaker 1: no matter how good he is. Not released yet, just

2684
02:13:32,480 --> 02:13:33,880
Speaker 1: to be clear, just in case people are just well,

2685
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:36,440
Speaker 1: that's what they're they're mulling over. They are, well, I

2686
02:13:36,960 --> 02:13:38,920
Speaker 1: think I think they're I think they're looking at this

2687
02:13:38,960 --> 02:13:41,080
Speaker 1: altercation today. Possibly is a get out of jail free

2688
02:13:41,160 --> 02:13:43,400
Speaker 1: card from the guaranteed money on the rest of his deal.

2689
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Speaker 1: So we'll see where that goes. But it's Texans Training

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Speaker 1: Camp Special. That's the voice of Clint Sterner and we're

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Speaker 1: coverage here on the station. We're having a blast bringing

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Speaker 1: it to you guys. Um speaking of Deshaun Watson offensive

2694
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Speaker 1: weaponry and Will Fuller is injured. He was injured last

2695
02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:04,320
Speaker 1: year and you look out and you go, okay, well

2696
02:14:04,400 --> 02:14:07,000
Speaker 1: we got Hopkins and then we'll see what happens after that.

2697
02:14:07,520 --> 02:14:09,680
Speaker 1: If Will Fuller were to go down this year, there's

2698
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Speaker 1: a different feeling going on and we're gonna talk about

2699
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Speaker 1: that with Clint Sterner. We'll hear from Deshaun Watson on

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Speaker 1: how the new guys on his offense are acclimating. That's all. Next,

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Speaker 1: Those are all fringe guys playing in that thing. So

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Speaker 1: Right now, I don't feel that way at all right

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Speaker 1: b how do you feel about where we're at right now? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah? At players feel after the third preseason game. Hey,

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Speaker 1: all attention turns towards whoever week the week one opponent is. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's there's a fourth preseason game in there, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: the starters may need to play depending on who you know.

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Speaker 1: When I was in Dallas. Aikman loved getting all the

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Speaker 1: But um, but yeah, so the players, you know, your

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Speaker 1: one opponent, who's Kansas City for the Texans, that's who

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Speaker 1: That's just basic football one oh one, and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: And we haven't add into that that we haven't seen

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Speaker 1: Fuller and Cooks really on the field at all for

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Speaker 1: Those guys, I mean each guy's vetter and guys that

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Speaker 1: I just I feel like normally, whereas we would be

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Speaker 1: But I tell you it's gonna be that way. I

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Speaker 1: It's easy throws. Hell, he's thrown it from me the

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Speaker 1: Shaun Watson. That's the most important part of this thing

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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, they and they are, and especially David

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Speaker 1: Johnson is and David Johnson look from from what I've observed,

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Speaker 1: Like I watched David Johnson when he was in Arizona,

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Speaker 1: but not a ton you know. You and I are

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Speaker 1: you know, I didn't watch every every snap David Johnson took.

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Speaker 1: I've watched every snap that he's been part of in

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Speaker 1: this training camp so far. And what I can tell

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Speaker 1: you about David Johnson is that he is not a

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Speaker 1: running back who catches the ball out of the backfield.

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Speaker 1: He is a unique in the passing game. He is

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Speaker 1: a unique weapon. That is a guy who is just

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Speaker 1: a different type of receiver, is what he is. Like,

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Speaker 1: I think when you think of a running back catching

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Speaker 1: the ball out of the backfield, you think of the

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Speaker 1: swing passes, the screen passes, the little pass out in

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Speaker 1: the flat, that kind of thing. He'll line up in

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Speaker 1: the slot, he'll line up outside, he catches the ball

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Speaker 1: in space. He for a guy his size, he's pretty fluid.

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Speaker 1: He's more like a super fluid h back when he's

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Speaker 1: out there, right. I mean you use the term I categorize,

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Speaker 1: you know, the running backs in this league as as

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Speaker 1: true running back, tailback type type players like you're Derek

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Speaker 1: Henry's um or or the the guys that are weapons.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not ready to put David Johnson in that

2962
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Speaker 1: in that just weapon conversation with with obviously Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: and then Alvin Kamara and Melvin Gordon. When he's healthy

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Speaker 1: and in the right system, I'm not ready to quite

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Speaker 1: put him there. But that's where he's headed. That's where

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Speaker 1: he belongs. Is if he can put everything together and

2967
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Speaker 1: stay healthy, that's where you couch David Johnson. When you

2968
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Speaker 1: get the best version of David Johnson, it's a weapon back.

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Speaker 1: It's not a tailback that's gonna do all of his

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Speaker 1: damage between the tackles or from behind the quarterback. He's

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Speaker 1: a he's a true weapon and I'll argue that since

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Speaker 1: I've been covering the team for damn sure, Sean, you

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Speaker 1: um covering the team closely. I don't ever remember a

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Speaker 1: back with that sure fire skill set that had that

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Speaker 1: he has being with the texts well Arian Foster. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but even Arian Foster, he's a great back, And don't

2978
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Speaker 1: get me wrong, but he's not he He wasn't a

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Speaker 1: back that when I watched and the first time you

2980
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Speaker 1: see him, you go, WHOA. I mean, well, yeah, the physically,

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Speaker 1: once you watch him with the ball in his hands,

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Speaker 1: who is that guy? That kind of thing? Like he?

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Speaker 1: He arians a guy to me? How Arian to me

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Speaker 1: needed to see Emmett Smith's vision And because you know

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2993
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Speaker 1: speed doesn't really just jump off the field. But when

2994
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Speaker 1: you see the vision in that now you go, oh,

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Speaker 1: we got problems. Right. That's how Emmett Smith was to

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Speaker 1: me well, and he the one the one thing Arian

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Speaker 1: Although why would you ever use Emmett in this capacity

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Speaker 1: How are you, my friend? I'm doing well. Boys, how

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Speaker 1: are we doing? We're doing great, Johnny. I feel like

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Speaker 1: in listening to you analyze the Texans for the last

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Speaker 1: I can't remember the different permutations of guys. You've talked

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3134
02:36:29,120 --> 02:36:31,879
Speaker 1: on the field at the same time with Duke Johnson

3135
02:36:31,920 --> 02:36:33,879
Speaker 1: and David Johnson. This has to be off the charts

3136
02:36:33,959 --> 02:36:37,119
Speaker 1: excitement for you. Well, this goes back, This actually goes

3137
02:36:37,200 --> 02:36:41,360
Speaker 1: back fifteen years, actually even before that, probably, but in

3138
02:36:41,480 --> 02:36:46,600
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, USC signed both Lendale White and

3139
02:36:46,800 --> 02:36:50,280
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush and they are they're already in two thousand

3140
02:36:50,280 --> 02:36:52,000
Speaker 1: and three, already had a guy name of Herschel Dennis,

3141
02:36:52,760 --> 02:36:55,000
Speaker 1: and they had three and those are the three backs

3142
02:36:55,040 --> 02:36:57,080
Speaker 1: they had now. They also had the big freshman Mike

3143
02:36:57,120 --> 02:36:59,880
Speaker 1: Williams too as a stud that year in matt Land

3144
02:37:00,160 --> 02:37:02,640
Speaker 1: was coming going into this first year. But I remember,

3145
02:37:02,680 --> 02:37:04,760
Speaker 1: after watching them in two thousand and three, knowing that

3146
02:37:04,879 --> 02:37:06,640
Speaker 1: Dennis is going to the NFL at that point, it

3147
02:37:06,720 --> 02:37:09,480
Speaker 1: was gonna be Reggie and Lendale the two backs. And

3148
02:37:09,640 --> 02:37:12,000
Speaker 1: you looked at USC's depth chart, which was really good

3149
02:37:12,360 --> 02:37:15,320
Speaker 1: offensive depth chart, and remember thinking, you know, Lendale's too

3150
02:37:15,440 --> 02:37:17,880
Speaker 1: good to keep on the bench or to keep as a,

3151
02:37:18,600 --> 02:37:22,240
Speaker 1: you know, the the backup to Reggie. You know, there's

3152
02:37:22,240 --> 02:37:26,000
Speaker 1: gotta be a way, especially with Reggie's receiving skills, that

3153
02:37:26,280 --> 02:37:28,440
Speaker 1: you can get both of them out on the field.

3154
02:37:29,120 --> 02:37:32,560
Speaker 1: And Norm Chow was the offensive coordinator for two thousand

3155
02:37:32,560 --> 02:37:34,480
Speaker 1: and four, and I just felt like Norm Chow would

3156
02:37:34,480 --> 02:37:36,440
Speaker 1: be the guy to take advantage of that. And in

3157
02:37:36,520 --> 02:37:38,760
Speaker 1: the first game oh four, USC played Virginia Tech and

3158
02:37:38,800 --> 02:37:41,720
Speaker 1: Reggie White lineup all over the place, but they never

3159
02:37:41,879 --> 02:37:43,760
Speaker 1: put the two of them in there together. And I

3160
02:37:43,800 --> 02:37:46,800
Speaker 1: couldn't understand. It. Used to drive me crazy that, look,

3161
02:37:46,879 --> 02:37:49,280
Speaker 1: these are the two two These two guys could be

3162
02:37:49,360 --> 02:37:52,880
Speaker 1: in there together for a number of different things. And

3163
02:37:52,920 --> 02:37:54,920
Speaker 1: I started thinking, Man, if I ever have two backs

3164
02:37:55,000 --> 02:37:58,039
Speaker 1: like that, especially one that's got receiving skills, I'm gonna

3165
02:37:58,120 --> 02:38:00,600
Speaker 1: use those suckers together. Now, if I got four all

3166
02:38:00,600 --> 02:38:03,560
Speaker 1: pros a receiver, okay, maybe I don't have to, But

3167
02:38:03,680 --> 02:38:05,440
Speaker 1: if I got two backs back there that I know

3168
02:38:05,600 --> 02:38:09,000
Speaker 1: are two of my best eleven offensive players, and they

3169
02:38:09,200 --> 02:38:11,840
Speaker 1: both can catch the ball extremely well, which both Duke

3170
02:38:11,920 --> 02:38:14,880
Speaker 1: and David do. I want to see them on the field.

3171
02:38:14,959 --> 02:38:17,360
Speaker 1: I want my best eleven out on the field, and

3172
02:38:17,520 --> 02:38:20,120
Speaker 1: if my best eleven shows up when David and Duke

3173
02:38:20,200 --> 02:38:23,480
Speaker 1: Johnson are in the field together, then hell, yeah, let's

3174
02:38:23,600 --> 02:38:25,959
Speaker 1: do it. I wouldn't really want to do it if

3175
02:38:26,480 --> 02:38:29,720
Speaker 1: if I had just two backs that I thought were

3176
02:38:29,760 --> 02:38:33,480
Speaker 1: good backs, but I wouldn't be able to really use

3177
02:38:33,640 --> 02:38:35,880
Speaker 1: one as kind of a weapon. X. You know a

3178
02:38:35,959 --> 02:38:37,760
Speaker 1: guy that kind of does a lot of different things,

3179
02:38:37,800 --> 02:38:40,760
Speaker 1: Like if I had Dereck Henry and well, I don't know.

3180
02:38:41,879 --> 02:38:44,280
Speaker 1: Let's say Dereck Henry and some of their good running

3181
02:38:44,320 --> 02:38:46,320
Speaker 1: back but was not a great one Leonard Furnete. Let's

3182
02:38:46,320 --> 02:38:49,320
Speaker 1: say Dereck Henry and Leonard Fernette. I know Leonard had

3183
02:38:49,320 --> 02:38:50,879
Speaker 1: a lot of catches last year, but I don't really

3184
02:38:51,000 --> 02:38:54,320
Speaker 1: see him as a threatening receiver. He was more Charlie

3185
02:38:54,400 --> 02:38:57,240
Speaker 1: checkdown relief, really. But if I had those two backs,

3186
02:38:57,240 --> 02:38:58,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if I look at it the same

3187
02:38:58,480 --> 02:39:00,400
Speaker 1: because I don't look at either one of them and say, well,

3188
02:39:00,520 --> 02:39:04,080
Speaker 1: one of them could be a threat a receiver to me.

3189
02:39:04,920 --> 02:39:07,640
Speaker 1: With David and Duke, you put them both next to

3190
02:39:07,720 --> 02:39:13,520
Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson and you start shifting and motioning. You

3191
02:39:13,680 --> 02:39:19,880
Speaker 1: watch what defenses are gonna be like, hey, um yeah, okay,

3192
02:39:20,480 --> 02:39:21,960
Speaker 1: what do you what do you do? And I thought

3193
02:39:21,959 --> 02:39:26,279
Speaker 1: a great example of that was the other day and AJ.

3194
02:39:26,520 --> 02:39:28,560
Speaker 1: It was with AJ, though it wasn't what the Shaun's AJ,

3195
02:39:29,040 --> 02:39:33,720
Speaker 1: And they went empty and Duke is the number two

3196
02:39:33,760 --> 02:39:35,360
Speaker 1: receiver now and I say the number two receiver, I

3197
02:39:35,440 --> 02:39:38,560
Speaker 1: mean numbered from outside in number one's outside receiver and

3198
02:39:38,640 --> 02:39:40,800
Speaker 1: two's inside. Number three is the closest one in the ball.

3199
02:39:41,160 --> 02:39:44,520
Speaker 1: And so he was number two, and so I'm like, Okay,

3200
02:39:44,600 --> 02:39:46,120
Speaker 1: this is a cool chess match. I want to see

3201
02:39:46,120 --> 02:39:47,840
Speaker 1: how this goes. And so I'm watching the defense try

3202
02:39:47,879 --> 02:39:50,280
Speaker 1: and figure out how they're gonna line up to this.

3203
02:39:50,840 --> 02:39:53,480
Speaker 1: And so AJ's just running the clockdown and he's kind

3204
02:39:53,520 --> 02:39:55,920
Speaker 1: of looking and he's looking, and I know I know

3205
02:39:56,280 --> 02:39:59,360
Speaker 1: exactly what he wants to do because he sees Terrell

3206
02:39:59,360 --> 02:40:01,959
Speaker 1: Adams up out to Duke Johnson and he's like, I'm

3207
02:40:02,000 --> 02:40:03,960
Speaker 1: going to Duke. But he's kind of playing a game

3208
02:40:04,040 --> 02:40:05,960
Speaker 1: back there. He's looking, he's doing some signaling to the

3209
02:40:06,040 --> 02:40:08,880
Speaker 1: left side, and Duke's on the right, and so finally

3210
02:40:08,879 --> 02:40:10,200
Speaker 1: it kind of looks to the right and you kind

3211
02:40:10,200 --> 02:40:11,880
Speaker 1: of nods and nods that everybody were good to go,

3212
02:40:12,000 --> 02:40:15,400
Speaker 1: snaps the ball and Duke just runs kind of a

3213
02:40:15,760 --> 02:40:18,480
Speaker 1: pseudo circle almost almost kind of like a bang eight.

3214
02:40:18,840 --> 02:40:21,160
Speaker 1: And it basically is just get at Terrell Adams and

3215
02:40:21,160 --> 02:40:22,800
Speaker 1: then get inside. And as soon as you get inside,

3216
02:40:22,800 --> 02:40:24,440
Speaker 1: turning your head and I'm telling you, agent hit him

3217
02:40:24,480 --> 02:40:26,640
Speaker 1: with the ball and it was perfect, And I'm like,

3218
02:40:27,200 --> 02:40:29,280
Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing you can do with Duke.

3219
02:40:29,959 --> 02:40:32,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely can do that with Duke all over the field.

3220
02:40:32,640 --> 02:40:34,760
Speaker 1: And what if you're not empty? But what if you

3221
02:40:35,080 --> 02:40:38,880
Speaker 1: David Johnson sitting next to Deshaun Watson and you have

3222
02:40:39,000 --> 02:40:41,200
Speaker 1: Duke over there as a number two wide receiver. Now,

3223
02:40:41,280 --> 02:40:43,160
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Now are you gonna match

3224
02:40:43,240 --> 02:40:45,160
Speaker 1: up with that? And what happens if David goes in motion?

3225
02:40:45,560 --> 02:40:47,400
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do at that point? How are

3226
02:40:47,440 --> 02:40:49,280
Speaker 1: you gonna shift? How are you going to change as

3227
02:40:49,320 --> 02:40:51,800
Speaker 1: a defense? And at some point You're gonna screw something up.

3228
02:40:52,400 --> 02:40:55,960
Speaker 1: And that is my hope is that with those two together,

3229
02:40:56,520 --> 02:40:59,000
Speaker 1: with some shifts and some motions and some different things

3230
02:40:59,640 --> 02:41:02,240
Speaker 1: that defenses are gonna screw it up, and there's gonna

3231
02:41:02,240 --> 02:41:05,680
Speaker 1: be an advantage for this offense, and DeShawn Watson's gonna

3232
02:41:05,680 --> 02:41:07,200
Speaker 1: be able to take advantage of it. And that's what

3233
02:41:07,280 --> 02:41:09,840
Speaker 1: I think you can do with those two backs together, Johnny.

3234
02:41:09,840 --> 02:41:12,840
Speaker 1: I love here in that conversation right there, because to me,

3235
02:41:13,080 --> 02:41:15,360
Speaker 1: I think this is a twenty personnel team. I just

3236
02:41:15,560 --> 02:41:17,320
Speaker 1: you we talked about the other day on the show,

3237
02:41:17,720 --> 02:41:20,879
Speaker 1: and for everybody out there listening, you have five skilled

3238
02:41:20,959 --> 02:41:22,840
Speaker 1: players on the football team. When I when I on

3239
02:41:22,840 --> 02:41:25,920
Speaker 1: the football field offensively at one time, five eligible receivers,

3240
02:41:26,400 --> 02:41:29,360
Speaker 1: and when I look at what the Texans have, I've

3241
02:41:29,440 --> 02:41:32,000
Speaker 1: just find it hard to believe that you that you

3242
02:41:32,160 --> 02:41:36,320
Speaker 1: consistently want to take either Duke Johnson, David Johnson, Randall Cobb,

3243
02:41:36,920 --> 02:41:39,760
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks, or Will Fuller off the field those five

3244
02:41:39,840 --> 02:41:43,480
Speaker 1: guys on the field at one time. With Deshaun Watson

3245
02:41:43,520 --> 02:41:45,600
Speaker 1: pulling the trigger in this offensive line being able to

3246
02:41:45,680 --> 02:41:47,440
Speaker 1: handle a four or five man rush up front the

3247
02:41:47,480 --> 02:41:48,840
Speaker 1: way I think they're gonna be able to handle it,

3248
02:41:49,240 --> 02:41:52,760
Speaker 1: this has got to be a twenty package for this team.

3249
02:41:53,120 --> 02:41:56,760
Speaker 1: Has to be a big part of what they do, Johnny,

3250
02:41:56,879 --> 02:42:00,280
Speaker 1: I know the empty, empty sets are gonna be nice. Man.

3251
02:42:00,840 --> 02:42:03,120
Speaker 1: I look at it like this, brother, I look at you.

3252
02:42:03,240 --> 02:42:05,520
Speaker 1: Put those two backs in a split back field, one

3253
02:42:05,560 --> 02:42:07,840
Speaker 1: on each side of the shawn like you said, and

3254
02:42:08,040 --> 02:42:11,920
Speaker 1: you run, you run zone read to the quarterbacks right

3255
02:42:12,160 --> 02:42:15,680
Speaker 1: with Duke with David Johnson and Deshaun Watson's or you

3256
02:42:15,840 --> 02:42:19,800
Speaker 1: throw the swing screen to the left side to Duke Johnson.

3257
02:42:19,959 --> 02:42:21,680
Speaker 1: How the hell are you going to defend that sideline

3258
02:42:21,720 --> 02:42:23,640
Speaker 1: to sideline And if you do, you're gonna have to

3259
02:42:23,760 --> 02:42:26,400
Speaker 1: load up eleven guys near the line of scrimmage. And

3260
02:42:26,480 --> 02:42:30,320
Speaker 1: now you got these burners outside. I just I'm getting

3261
02:42:30,360 --> 02:42:33,199
Speaker 1: more and more excited about this skilled group and what's

3262
02:42:33,280 --> 02:42:36,040
Speaker 1: possible and what Tim Kelly could potentially do with this

3263
02:42:36,200 --> 02:42:39,000
Speaker 1: group by the day. Man. Yeah, absolutely. And you know

3264
02:42:39,120 --> 02:42:41,959
Speaker 1: when you hear you know, you just mentioned twenty personnel,

3265
02:42:41,959 --> 02:42:43,600
Speaker 1: and there aren't a lot of teams in this league,

3266
02:42:43,879 --> 02:42:45,720
Speaker 1: teams in this league that can run twenty personnel. But

3267
02:42:45,720 --> 02:42:48,400
Speaker 1: when you're a twenty personnel you're thinking, okay, well, there's

3268
02:42:48,440 --> 02:42:50,120
Speaker 1: no tight end on the field, so there's gotta be

3269
02:42:50,120 --> 02:42:52,240
Speaker 1: a fullback in a running back right or fullback in

3270
02:42:52,280 --> 02:42:55,039
Speaker 1: a tailback, right, Well, you know some people run, you know, oh,

3271
02:42:55,120 --> 02:42:56,960
Speaker 1: twenty one personalel twenty two personally. Yah, those are a

3272
02:42:57,000 --> 02:42:58,760
Speaker 1: lot of power formations. You know, there's a fullback with

3273
02:42:58,840 --> 02:43:01,400
Speaker 1: a running back sort of thing. But the twenty personality

3274
02:43:01,440 --> 02:43:02,879
Speaker 1: you said clant that they can run and they can

3275
02:43:02,959 --> 02:43:05,040
Speaker 1: trot out there. I think I think there are a

3276
02:43:05,080 --> 02:43:06,720
Speaker 1: couple of things you just mentioned. I think the other

3277
02:43:06,800 --> 02:43:08,240
Speaker 1: thing you can do is you can run some sweet

3278
02:43:08,280 --> 02:43:11,760
Speaker 1: art Yo package too. I mean, my goodness, just all

3279
02:43:11,800 --> 02:43:14,320
Speaker 1: you got, I mean just reading one linebacker to whatever

3280
02:43:14,440 --> 02:43:16,480
Speaker 1: side you got running back with a slot receiver on.

3281
02:43:16,560 --> 02:43:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, it's take what you want.

3282
02:43:19,200 --> 02:43:21,760
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing too. I think with that

3283
02:43:22,520 --> 02:43:27,080
Speaker 1: set you get an up tempo and now you catch

3284
02:43:27,160 --> 02:43:30,560
Speaker 1: them and the wrong personnel and they can't substitute who

3285
02:43:31,000 --> 02:43:34,600
Speaker 1: You're done. You're done with Johnny. It's it's it's it's

3286
02:43:35,280 --> 02:43:38,840
Speaker 1: not easy. He's not the right word. But it's simple football, man, right,

3287
02:43:39,000 --> 02:43:42,720
Speaker 1: It's it's high percentage stuff. It's simple football where when

3288
02:43:42,800 --> 02:43:46,120
Speaker 1: you've got the better players, if you just get your

3289
02:43:46,160 --> 02:43:48,520
Speaker 1: body in the position it's supposed to be in upfront,

3290
02:43:48,760 --> 02:43:51,360
Speaker 1: and if Deshan distributes the ball where it's supposed to go.

3291
02:43:51,840 --> 02:43:56,560
Speaker 1: It's very simple, simple football, and a lot of teams

3292
02:43:56,680 --> 02:43:59,920
Speaker 1: just don't have that luxury. Right, No, you're exactly right,

3293
02:44:00,080 --> 02:44:02,920
Speaker 1: and I think the only and make sure I say

3294
02:44:02,959 --> 02:44:05,840
Speaker 1: this right, The only worry I would have in all

3295
02:44:05,920 --> 02:44:10,000
Speaker 1: of that is I don't want to say that's dink

3296
02:44:10,040 --> 02:44:12,920
Speaker 1: and dunked down the field. To me, it's more you're attacking,

3297
02:44:13,520 --> 02:44:16,720
Speaker 1: and so that I that I like. My only concern

3298
02:44:16,840 --> 02:44:20,280
Speaker 1: would be, would de Sean get antsy and want the

3299
02:44:20,400 --> 02:44:23,840
Speaker 1: deep ball as opposed to they're giving you eight yards

3300
02:44:23,959 --> 02:44:27,320
Speaker 1: for I mean take it. I mean just find your

3301
02:44:27,440 --> 02:44:31,720
Speaker 1: matchup each time and take it because they can't stop you.

3302
02:44:31,800 --> 02:44:34,160
Speaker 1: They got linebackers on the field trying to stop this.

3303
02:44:34,560 --> 02:44:36,360
Speaker 1: They're in a linebacker then cover any one of those

3304
02:44:36,400 --> 02:44:38,280
Speaker 1: guys that we mentioned. So that would be my only

3305
02:44:38,320 --> 02:44:40,440
Speaker 1: worries that, well, he gets a little anty. But that's

3306
02:44:40,440 --> 02:44:42,720
Speaker 1: the thing. If you just stay patient, you just keep

3307
02:44:42,760 --> 02:44:45,000
Speaker 1: taking what they're given to you, the shot will be

3308
02:44:45,120 --> 02:44:48,840
Speaker 1: there because eventually, eventually defensive coordinators stow their hands up

3309
02:44:48,840 --> 02:44:51,800
Speaker 1: and like, I don't know what to do. Bring six.

3310
02:44:52,560 --> 02:44:54,520
Speaker 1: They can't block all six. Okay, well, now you got

3311
02:44:54,560 --> 02:44:56,600
Speaker 1: one on one matchups and then you just eat, then

3312
02:44:56,640 --> 02:45:00,120
Speaker 1: you just jump. You don't want to love that. That

3313
02:45:00,200 --> 02:45:02,480
Speaker 1: what we're talking about right now, the twenty personnel, because

3314
02:45:02,520 --> 02:45:06,440
Speaker 1: I feel those that don't know what two backs, no title,

3315
02:45:06,920 --> 02:45:10,680
Speaker 1: three wide receivers. I think the best most explosive, five

3316
02:45:11,000 --> 02:45:14,200
Speaker 1: skilled offensive skilled players on this football team are your

3317
02:45:14,240 --> 02:45:16,800
Speaker 1: three top wide receivers or hell you can you can

3318
02:45:16,840 --> 02:45:19,000
Speaker 1: take any three of the top four wide receivers and

3319
02:45:19,120 --> 02:45:21,400
Speaker 1: your two backs. They just don't have a tight end

3320
02:45:21,760 --> 02:45:24,640
Speaker 1: that to me, outside of packages that you can go,

3321
02:45:24,760 --> 02:45:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hang my head on this guy being on

3322
02:45:26,680 --> 02:45:30,520
Speaker 1: the field. The reason I love twenty personnel is because

3323
02:45:30,680 --> 02:45:34,000
Speaker 1: I know Bill O'Brien's not gonna stray too far from

3324
02:45:34,040 --> 02:45:36,280
Speaker 1: when man, when there's two safeties on the roof, he's

3325
02:45:36,280 --> 02:45:38,280
Speaker 1: gonna want to run the football. Yes, and and that

3326
02:45:38,440 --> 02:45:41,960
Speaker 1: twenty personnel you can do this that the simple zone

3327
02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:44,800
Speaker 1: read stuff inside. You can run your pound powers, you

3328
02:45:44,840 --> 02:45:47,240
Speaker 1: can run your counters, you can do all those different

3329
02:45:47,280 --> 02:45:50,400
Speaker 1: things that I know Bill O'Brien, it's just in his blood. Man,

3330
02:45:50,480 --> 02:45:52,720
Speaker 1: he's not gonna get away from And it's smart. I mean,

3331
02:45:52,720 --> 02:45:54,000
Speaker 1: if you got two on the roof, damn it. You

3332
02:45:54,040 --> 02:45:56,760
Speaker 1: gotta commit to the run. But I just think it's

3333
02:45:56,800 --> 02:45:59,080
Speaker 1: something that we that we can potentially see. I just

3334
02:45:59,080 --> 02:46:01,840
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna see a boatload of empty and

3335
02:46:02,280 --> 02:46:04,600
Speaker 1: just this spread spin it all over the park type

3336
02:46:04,640 --> 02:46:06,280
Speaker 1: of air raid type of crap, because it's not what

3337
02:46:06,720 --> 02:46:08,680
Speaker 1: it's not what Bill O'Brien does, it's not what Tim

3338
02:46:08,800 --> 02:46:12,800
Speaker 1: Kelly does. I think twenty personnel and what you and

3339
02:46:12,879 --> 02:46:15,320
Speaker 1: I and Sean have been discussing for the last fifteen minutes.

3340
02:46:15,440 --> 02:46:18,520
Speaker 1: I just think that is something. I think that's something

3341
02:46:18,600 --> 02:46:23,080
Speaker 1: that legitimately is a possibility, not just us three spitting

3342
02:46:23,120 --> 02:46:25,360
Speaker 1: in the wind. Yeah, I agree with you, Clinton, and

3343
02:46:25,480 --> 02:46:27,560
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope it's there. I mean, if you

3344
02:46:27,600 --> 02:46:28,960
Speaker 1: think about it, if you put both of them in

3345
02:46:29,000 --> 02:46:31,880
Speaker 1: a backfield, I think the assumption is for a lot

3346
02:46:31,920 --> 02:46:34,120
Speaker 1: of defense, Well, no motion a guy out, they motion

3347
02:46:34,200 --> 02:46:36,760
Speaker 1: one of them out of there, They'll motion a guy out.

3348
02:46:36,840 --> 02:46:39,240
Speaker 1: And so you know, if I if I think back

3349
02:46:39,280 --> 02:46:41,040
Speaker 1: to being a safety in that whole thing, and I

3350
02:46:41,120 --> 02:46:43,280
Speaker 1: see those two backs back there, and I and I'm like,

3351
02:46:43,600 --> 02:46:45,800
Speaker 1: I get too concerned with them, and I'm thinking, look,

3352
02:46:45,840 --> 02:46:48,040
Speaker 1: I've got my depth. My depth has got to be

3353
02:46:48,160 --> 02:46:50,440
Speaker 1: if I'm playing cover two and I'm not gonna play

3354
02:46:50,440 --> 02:46:53,880
Speaker 1: as deep as I normally would because I know they can.

3355
02:46:54,000 --> 02:46:56,560
Speaker 1: They can pop. They pop his own lead in there,

3356
02:46:57,040 --> 02:46:58,800
Speaker 1: and one of them can act as the lead blocker

3357
02:46:58,840 --> 02:47:01,280
Speaker 1: for the other one. Now I wouldn't want to do

3358
02:47:01,360 --> 02:47:05,280
Speaker 1: that all the time because they're not fullbacks, but heck

3359
02:47:05,320 --> 02:47:08,240
Speaker 1: if they If Duke gets involved, David six two two thirty,

3360
02:47:08,240 --> 02:47:10,320
Speaker 1: he can go pop a linebacker. And if you pop

3361
02:47:10,360 --> 02:47:11,920
Speaker 1: it all the way to the third level, well, now

3362
02:47:11,959 --> 02:47:13,600
Speaker 1: you want to one it is safety. Good luck with that.

3363
02:47:13,720 --> 02:47:15,520
Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden, you get those safeties

3364
02:47:15,560 --> 02:47:17,640
Speaker 1: creeping because they're thinking, well, they just hit it's what

3365
02:47:17,720 --> 02:47:19,600
Speaker 1: the run a few times and gash us I gotta

3366
02:47:19,600 --> 02:47:21,440
Speaker 1: get up there and then boom, Now you get your

3367
02:47:21,480 --> 02:47:23,880
Speaker 1: shot behind some safeties that are sitting a little at,

3368
02:47:24,480 --> 02:47:26,480
Speaker 1: a little short, a little shallow, and now you go

3369
02:47:26,600 --> 02:47:30,160
Speaker 1: up over the top. I just think that's been my

3370
02:47:30,600 --> 02:47:32,680
Speaker 1: mo for a long time with this team. And when

3371
02:47:32,720 --> 02:47:35,640
Speaker 1: they brought in Duke Johnson last year and they had

3372
02:47:35,760 --> 02:47:38,000
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller and Duke Johnson, I thought those would be

3373
02:47:38,080 --> 02:47:39,640
Speaker 1: two guys to do it with. I thought they'd be

3374
02:47:39,720 --> 02:47:41,680
Speaker 1: really because both of them can be good receivers out

3375
02:47:41,680 --> 02:47:42,960
Speaker 1: of the back of the are good receivers out of

3376
02:47:42,959 --> 02:47:45,800
Speaker 1: the backfield. They'll block for one another, They're not scared

3377
02:47:45,800 --> 02:47:47,920
Speaker 1: of the contact. They're physical. I think you have a

3378
02:47:47,959 --> 02:47:50,000
Speaker 1: similar situation, but I think you have a better receiver

3379
02:47:50,680 --> 02:47:53,520
Speaker 1: with David Johnson and a much bigger back with David

3380
02:47:53,600 --> 02:47:55,600
Speaker 1: Johnson to go along with Dukes. So it's kind of

3381
02:47:55,640 --> 02:47:58,520
Speaker 1: the same feeling I had last year, but now obviously

3382
02:47:58,600 --> 02:48:00,800
Speaker 1: Lamar got hurt, so you never really got there. And

3383
02:48:01,080 --> 02:48:03,880
Speaker 1: I did love it with Carlos because Coss wasn't a

3384
02:48:03,879 --> 02:48:06,080
Speaker 1: great receiver, but now you have two really good receivers

3385
02:48:06,120 --> 02:48:10,440
Speaker 1: back there. I think the really the offensive twenty personnel

3386
02:48:10,800 --> 02:48:13,960
Speaker 1: is your oyster. I love that layer to the offensive onion.

3387
02:48:14,040 --> 02:48:16,600
Speaker 1: I hope they really peel that back, and I honestly, Clint,

3388
02:48:16,640 --> 02:48:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't

3389
02:48:19,160 --> 02:48:21,920
Speaker 1: see it much in training camp and they spring it

3390
02:48:22,000 --> 02:48:24,240
Speaker 1: on Kansasy. That's what they've been working on the walkthroughs.

3391
02:48:24,440 --> 02:48:27,360
Speaker 1: That's will be working on the week leading up. They'll

3392
02:48:27,400 --> 02:48:29,680
Speaker 1: be working on that package leading into the game against

3393
02:48:29,720 --> 02:48:32,560
Speaker 1: Kansas City to give them something they really haven't seen before.

3394
02:48:32,600 --> 02:48:35,760
Speaker 1: It's Texans Training Camp Special presented by Xfinity thirty two

3395
02:48:35,800 --> 02:48:38,520
Speaker 1: consecutive days of Texans coverage. Here John Harris joining us

3396
02:48:38,520 --> 02:48:41,280
Speaker 1: for a few minutes talking some Texans football. Johnny, let's

3397
02:48:41,280 --> 02:48:43,280
Speaker 1: flip over to the defensive side of the football. My

3398
02:48:43,360 --> 02:48:46,280
Speaker 1: contention has been this offseason that if there's gonna be

3399
02:48:46,360 --> 02:48:50,200
Speaker 1: significant improvement with the defense, that maybe the biggest places

3400
02:48:50,200 --> 02:48:53,000
Speaker 1: that comes from our JJ Watt being healthy for sixteen games.

3401
02:48:53,280 --> 02:48:55,560
Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver may be bringing a different set of eyes

3402
02:48:55,600 --> 02:48:58,480
Speaker 1: and a different some different wrinkles scheme wise to the defense.

3403
02:48:58,800 --> 02:49:00,800
Speaker 1: And then the third one is Justin Reid and just

3404
02:49:01,280 --> 02:49:03,640
Speaker 1: not just the normal improvement from year two to year

3405
02:49:03,680 --> 02:49:06,039
Speaker 1: three that we would see from a player of his caliber.

3406
02:49:06,120 --> 02:49:08,480
Speaker 1: But he's healthy now for the first time maybe since

3407
02:49:08,520 --> 02:49:10,920
Speaker 1: he got here, he's fully healthy. What have you seen

3408
02:49:11,000 --> 02:49:13,680
Speaker 1: from Justin Reid out of camp that give that should

3409
02:49:13,680 --> 02:49:17,200
Speaker 1: give Texan fans excitement about that being the case. Well,

3410
02:49:17,400 --> 02:49:21,480
Speaker 1: first of all, when I watched Justin Reid in every

3411
02:49:21,840 --> 02:49:24,920
Speaker 1: drill he does, I mean it's a thousand miles an hour,

3412
02:49:24,959 --> 02:49:26,400
Speaker 1: and then he gets on the sideline. There've been a

3413
02:49:26,440 --> 02:49:28,400
Speaker 1: couple of times I've been on a near the sideline

3414
02:49:28,400 --> 02:49:30,440
Speaker 1: when he's been talking to his guys. Every time he

3415
02:49:30,520 --> 02:49:35,840
Speaker 1: comes off the field. He grabs one guy and he's like, hey, man,

3416
02:49:36,080 --> 02:49:38,040
Speaker 1: I think we should have changed this on that. Hey,

3417
02:49:38,080 --> 02:49:39,840
Speaker 1: if they do this, this is what I wanted. He's

3418
02:49:39,879 --> 02:49:44,760
Speaker 1: talking ball the entire time. He is completely and totally

3419
02:49:45,360 --> 02:49:48,959
Speaker 1: hired in. And I love to see that. The other

3420
02:49:49,000 --> 02:49:50,760
Speaker 1: one that I would throw in there, Sean with you

3421
02:49:51,040 --> 02:49:53,520
Speaker 1: and not to cut discussion out of Justin reach short

3422
02:49:53,560 --> 02:49:57,000
Speaker 1: because I think Justin. You know, it's how I feel

3423
02:49:57,040 --> 02:49:58,920
Speaker 1: about Justin. I mean I could go on forever. I mean,

3424
02:49:59,160 --> 02:50:01,200
Speaker 1: I love him. I think he's perfect for this defense.

3425
02:50:01,920 --> 02:50:05,200
Speaker 1: I think the other one that could really change things.

3426
02:50:06,360 --> 02:50:09,560
Speaker 1: And this is obviously a big if because you'll you'll

3427
02:50:09,600 --> 02:50:11,880
Speaker 1: be relying on a rookie and a second year guy

3428
02:50:11,959 --> 02:50:14,959
Speaker 1: to do it. But if Charles and Menahu and Ross

3429
02:50:15,120 --> 02:50:19,640
Speaker 1: Blacklock get loose in the middle and they start they

3430
02:50:19,720 --> 02:50:22,040
Speaker 1: start showing some things in the middle. Because I guarantee you,

3431
02:50:22,040 --> 02:50:24,560
Speaker 1: as soon as ninety goes on the field as a rookie,

3432
02:50:26,080 --> 02:50:28,280
Speaker 1: you know, hey, our focus is still gonna be ninety nine.

3433
02:50:28,360 --> 02:50:31,000
Speaker 1: Wherever ninety nine is, that's where the focus is gonna go.

3434
02:50:31,080 --> 02:50:33,760
Speaker 1: So where they slide the protection to JJ or they

3435
02:50:33,840 --> 02:50:36,240
Speaker 1: double one ship or where depending on where he is,

3436
02:50:37,160 --> 02:50:39,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna be one on one matchups up and down

3437
02:50:39,080 --> 02:50:42,520
Speaker 1: that up and down that defense offense line. And so

3438
02:50:42,640 --> 02:50:44,640
Speaker 1: that means that Chuck's going one on one, and that

3439
02:50:44,800 --> 02:50:47,400
Speaker 1: means that the Ross Blacklock's gonna pretty much go one

3440
02:50:47,440 --> 02:50:50,840
Speaker 1: on one. And those guys have the twitch and they've

3441
02:50:50,879 --> 02:50:53,760
Speaker 1: got the length, the size and the power to be

3442
02:50:53,920 --> 02:50:57,680
Speaker 1: able to impact the quarterback's feet. And Chuck showed that

3443
02:50:57,760 --> 02:51:00,040
Speaker 1: last year in the game against the Chiefs. But he

3444
02:51:00,160 --> 02:51:02,040
Speaker 1: was a rookie last year. I don't know that he

3445
02:51:03,280 --> 02:51:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, there were a lot of times he was

3446
02:51:04,440 --> 02:51:05,840
Speaker 1: just out there and he was just playing like he

3447
02:51:05,959 --> 02:51:07,240
Speaker 1: was just playing. I don't know if he was really

3448
02:51:07,280 --> 02:51:09,720
Speaker 1: thinking about a whole lot. He's just going. And I

3449
02:51:09,800 --> 02:51:12,560
Speaker 1: think this year he's really kind of honed in. Working

3450
02:51:12,600 --> 02:51:15,760
Speaker 1: with DeMarcus Ware was huge this offseason, and I think

3451
02:51:15,840 --> 02:51:18,000
Speaker 1: we've seen some of that twitch come through. He's starting

3452
02:51:18,000 --> 02:51:20,520
Speaker 1: to learn how to use his length. He's using countermoves

3453
02:51:20,600 --> 02:51:23,720
Speaker 1: with his pass rush moves. So he's doing a lot

3454
02:51:23,840 --> 02:51:26,280
Speaker 1: more than he did last year. And Ross Blacklock, I

3455
02:51:26,400 --> 02:51:29,039
Speaker 1: can't say enough about. I just hope that he's able

3456
02:51:29,080 --> 02:51:32,480
Speaker 1: to stay healthy. But man, the speed, the quickness, the

3457
02:51:32,560 --> 02:51:36,080
Speaker 1: agility that he has at his size, that's the kind

3458
02:51:36,120 --> 02:51:39,480
Speaker 1: of guy that I think can really impact what it

3459
02:51:39,600 --> 02:51:41,480
Speaker 1: is that JJ Walker do. Obviously JJ is going to

3460
02:51:41,520 --> 02:51:43,680
Speaker 1: impact them, but to me, when they're going on a

3461
02:51:43,720 --> 02:51:46,880
Speaker 1: pass rushdown, I think ninety ninety four and ninety nine,

3462
02:51:47,000 --> 02:51:49,160
Speaker 1: those three have got a chance to wreck some havoc

3463
02:51:49,240 --> 02:51:52,960
Speaker 1: on the inside. And that's really what the Texans have

3464
02:51:53,040 --> 02:51:55,480
Speaker 1: been looking for for a long time. And I and look,

3465
02:51:55,600 --> 02:51:57,640
Speaker 1: I love DJ Reader as much as anybody. I was

3466
02:51:57,720 --> 02:52:00,360
Speaker 1: very close with DJ. I love the guy. He talked

3467
02:52:00,400 --> 02:52:02,280
Speaker 1: a lot about him coming from Clemson and how he

3468
02:52:02,400 --> 02:52:05,680
Speaker 1: got here. Oh, I mean, I love DJ Reader. DJ

3469
02:52:05,879 --> 02:52:08,800
Speaker 1: couldn't push the pass pocket. He was great against the run.

3470
02:52:09,120 --> 02:52:12,920
Speaker 1: He was fantastic against the run. And loved him. But

3471
02:52:13,040 --> 02:52:15,360
Speaker 1: he got better as a pass rusher over the years,

3472
02:52:15,400 --> 02:52:17,600
Speaker 1: but that really just got him to as slightly above

3473
02:52:17,680 --> 02:52:22,480
Speaker 1: average pass rusher. Russ Blacklock within eight games is gonna

3474
02:52:22,560 --> 02:52:24,840
Speaker 1: be as good an interior pass rusher as the Texans

3475
02:52:24,879 --> 02:52:27,560
Speaker 1: have had in a while. As long as he stays

3476
02:52:27,720 --> 02:52:31,640
Speaker 1: healthy and available, he will be because he goes one

3477
02:52:31,720 --> 02:52:34,280
Speaker 1: on one on guys. Forget it, forget it. I don't

3478
02:52:34,280 --> 02:52:36,119
Speaker 1: care how long you've been in the league. His strength,

3479
02:52:36,560 --> 02:52:40,200
Speaker 1: his quickness, his agility, he's gonna win against you. He's

3480
02:52:40,240 --> 02:52:44,000
Speaker 1: absolutely gonna win. So if you take that and put

3481
02:52:44,120 --> 02:52:46,840
Speaker 1: that into the mix, now, that's not something I would

3482
02:52:46,840 --> 02:52:49,480
Speaker 1: think anybody was counting on, and I'm not counting on it.

3483
02:52:50,280 --> 02:52:53,439
Speaker 1: But I think with what I've seen from him Blacklock

3484
02:52:53,520 --> 02:52:56,480
Speaker 1: in particular, that you're gonna be able to count that

3485
02:52:56,680 --> 02:53:00,400
Speaker 1: as an asset as this season goes on. Maybe Week one,

3486
02:53:01,080 --> 02:53:04,920
Speaker 1: maybe maybe not. But as the season goes on, we're

3487
02:53:04,920 --> 02:53:07,120
Speaker 1: gonna start to see a lot of quarterbacks fuel that

3488
02:53:07,280 --> 02:53:10,280
Speaker 1: pressure right at their feet because ninety and ninety four

3489
02:53:10,320 --> 02:53:12,280
Speaker 1: are working up the middle of that formation. And I

3490
02:53:12,360 --> 02:53:14,800
Speaker 1: think that's really gonna help this defense. John, we got

3491
02:53:14,840 --> 02:53:17,280
Speaker 1: about a minute, man, and unfortunately it's it's not all

3492
02:53:17,480 --> 02:53:21,080
Speaker 1: rainbows and butterflies here. Man. I looked at I watched

3493
02:53:21,120 --> 02:53:23,560
Speaker 1: the linebackers a little bit yesterday, man, and I want

3494
02:53:23,560 --> 02:53:25,840
Speaker 1: you to tell me if I'm right or wrong on this. Obviously,

3495
02:53:26,000 --> 02:53:28,360
Speaker 1: Zack Cunningham's got to be a baller this year for

3496
02:53:28,440 --> 02:53:32,320
Speaker 1: the Texans, But man, I watch this group and I

3497
02:53:32,680 --> 02:53:34,920
Speaker 1: just can't help but think, Man, they are dependent on

3498
02:53:35,080 --> 02:53:38,280
Speaker 1: dealing coal in situations where he's got to cover, even

3499
02:53:38,360 --> 02:53:41,560
Speaker 1: in pass rushing situations. That athletic ability, that quick quickness,

3500
02:53:41,640 --> 02:53:44,680
Speaker 1: that twitch, the ability to cover or pass rush. They

3501
02:53:44,800 --> 02:53:48,160
Speaker 1: need that guy to be healthy and particularly damn sure

3502
02:53:48,320 --> 02:53:50,640
Speaker 1: in week one, is that off base or do you

3503
02:53:50,720 --> 02:53:53,200
Speaker 1: see that as well? Yeah? I think they You know,

3504
02:53:53,280 --> 02:53:55,200
Speaker 1: the one thing about about b Mac, I think his

3505
02:53:55,280 --> 02:53:57,959
Speaker 1: pass cover skills have gotten They've got a lot better

3506
02:53:58,000 --> 02:54:02,199
Speaker 1: since he got here. But that's doesn't mean that they're perfect.

3507
02:54:02,879 --> 02:54:05,840
Speaker 1: And especially when you're playing Kansas City, man, holy smokes,

3508
02:54:06,040 --> 02:54:07,880
Speaker 1: the way that they're able to formation you. I think

3509
02:54:07,879 --> 02:54:10,000
Speaker 1: of the first touchdown they had they Damian Williams e

3510
02:54:10,040 --> 02:54:11,959
Speaker 1: got matches up by Jacob Martin, I'm like, oh God,

3511
02:54:12,160 --> 02:54:14,280
Speaker 1: and then mahomes through just a brilliant pass to him,

3512
02:54:14,280 --> 02:54:16,160
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh well, they got Clyde Edwards du

3513
02:54:16,200 --> 02:54:19,160
Speaker 1: Lair to do that same thing this year. So absolutely,

3514
02:54:19,240 --> 02:54:22,080
Speaker 1: the linebackers are got to be better. Dylan's a big

3515
02:54:22,200 --> 02:54:25,240
Speaker 1: part of this. But in all honesty, Clint, I wouldn't

3516
02:54:25,240 --> 02:54:28,800
Speaker 1: be surprised. I really wouldn't be surprised if that first week,

3517
02:54:28,840 --> 02:54:31,040
Speaker 1: if we see seven dbs got on the field. Now,

3518
02:54:31,120 --> 02:54:33,360
Speaker 1: I've never I've never seen that from the Texans maybe once.

3519
02:54:33,800 --> 02:54:35,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if seven dbs gone on the

3520
02:54:35,959 --> 02:54:38,800
Speaker 1: field and the linebacker, I say in air quotes playing

3521
02:54:38,879 --> 02:54:42,560
Speaker 1: next to Zach Cunningham is Lonnie Johnson. I really wouldn't

3522
02:54:42,600 --> 02:54:45,400
Speaker 1: be surprised to say, Okay, you want to throw, we

3523
02:54:45,520 --> 02:54:47,520
Speaker 1: got seven dbs on the field. We're gonna dare you.

3524
02:54:47,600 --> 02:54:50,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna dare you to run the football. Run, but

3525
02:54:50,560 --> 02:54:52,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna dare you to run it and see whether

3526
02:54:52,320 --> 02:54:54,320
Speaker 1: they do it. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case,

3527
02:54:54,720 --> 02:54:58,199
Speaker 1: so that when when Edwards Delarey goes out, it's Lonnie

3528
02:54:58,240 --> 02:55:00,560
Speaker 1: Johnson picking that up or it's Zach pick Now. I

3529
02:55:00,600 --> 02:55:02,840
Speaker 1: know you can't be in that all game, but I

3530
02:55:02,959 --> 02:55:05,080
Speaker 1: really wouldn't be surprised to see a whole hell of

3531
02:55:05,120 --> 02:55:07,039
Speaker 1: a lot of dbs on the field for that first

3532
02:55:07,080 --> 02:55:10,959
Speaker 1: game against the Chiefs. John Harris, the great Texans sideline

3533
02:55:11,040 --> 02:55:14,160
Speaker 1: reporter and Texans Radio You can hear him and Mark

3534
02:55:14,240 --> 02:55:17,120
Speaker 1: vander Meer eight o'clock on Monday morning throughout the week.

3535
02:55:17,200 --> 02:55:19,800
Speaker 1: This week as Texans training camp rolls on, it is

3536
02:55:19,879 --> 02:55:22,880
Speaker 1: Texans Training Camp Special. Here Johnny'll see out of practice tomorrow. Bud.

3537
02:55:23,320 --> 02:55:25,360
Speaker 1: All right, boys, good talking to you again, right you two.

3538
02:55:25,480 --> 02:55:28,400
Speaker 1: Good stuff from John Harris right there here on Texans

3539
02:55:28,480 --> 02:55:32,080
Speaker 1: Training Camp special brought to you by Exfinity. Here on

3540
02:55:32,200 --> 02:55:34,640
Speaker 1: Sports Radio six ten. When we come back, we'll head

3541
02:55:34,680 --> 02:55:37,480
Speaker 1: into the five o'clock hour, and I want to get

3542
02:55:37,560 --> 02:55:41,439
Speaker 1: with Clint and talk about Deshaun Watson's ability to eliminate

3543
02:55:41,520 --> 02:55:45,480
Speaker 1: and adapt to mistakes that he makes. Both Deshaun and

3544
02:55:45,600 --> 02:55:48,160
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien talked about it on Friday. Some interesting stuff

3545
02:55:48,200 --> 02:55:50,840
Speaker 1: from the head coach and quarterback in our quarterback Clint

3546
02:55:50,879 --> 02:55:57,400
Speaker 1: Stirner is next. You're listening to Texans Radio Touchdown. Texans

3547
02:55:57,680 --> 02:56:03,280
Speaker 1: Radio continues in a moment right now. Many of us

3548
02:56:03,280 --> 02:56:06,760
Speaker 1: are unsure about what may come next, and Reliant we

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3755
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Speaker 1: He can explain what the hell he what just happened

3756
03:06:58,520 --> 03:07:01,280
Speaker 1: better than most because it literally is in slow motion

3757
03:07:01,360 --> 03:07:03,600
Speaker 1: for him. So when you talk about spreading the ball around,

3758
03:07:04,680 --> 03:07:07,440
Speaker 1: asking him to focus on spreading the ball around and

3759
03:07:07,600 --> 03:07:11,080
Speaker 1: what it takes to distribute the football to the open receiver,

3760
03:07:12,120 --> 03:07:14,120
Speaker 1: it's all in slow motion for him. So the recall

3761
03:07:14,280 --> 03:07:16,320
Speaker 1: is through the roof. So yes, he's got an advantage

3762
03:07:16,360 --> 03:07:20,160
Speaker 1: in this type of system. Here's DeShawn yesterday on trying

3763
03:07:20,200 --> 03:07:23,199
Speaker 1: to avoid making the same mistake multiple times. I've always

3764
03:07:23,240 --> 03:07:25,200
Speaker 1: had that mentality since I've been a little I've just

3765
03:07:25,400 --> 03:07:27,400
Speaker 1: learned that over the years from different coaching staff and

3766
03:07:27,520 --> 03:07:30,320
Speaker 1: just my mindset, you know, growing up from where I'm from,

3767
03:07:30,440 --> 03:07:32,720
Speaker 1: So I just kind of always had that. In regardless,

3768
03:07:32,760 --> 03:07:34,520
Speaker 1: I try to learn from other people mistakes and if

3769
03:07:34,560 --> 03:07:37,360
Speaker 1: I know, make an m a I may share that,

3770
03:07:37,560 --> 03:07:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of create that because a lot

3771
03:07:39,320 --> 03:07:41,320
Speaker 1: of eyes is on me. I control us what I

3772
03:07:41,400 --> 03:07:43,720
Speaker 1: can do out there on the field, and everyone is following.

3773
03:07:43,840 --> 03:07:46,120
Speaker 1: So as far and as good as I go as

3774
03:07:46,120 --> 03:07:48,480
Speaker 1: a quarterback, that's how far and as good the team

3775
03:07:48,600 --> 03:07:50,280
Speaker 1: is gonna go. So I gotta have that mentality. He

3776
03:07:51,000 --> 03:07:54,000
Speaker 1: should every practice, eation every day. Here's one more from Deshaun.

3777
03:07:54,000 --> 03:07:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm beating opponents using the mental side of the game.

3778
03:07:56,560 --> 03:07:58,959
Speaker 1: This is always to improved, especially on the mental side.

3779
03:07:59,000 --> 03:08:00,840
Speaker 1: Just kind of making sure that you know, you see

3780
03:08:00,879 --> 03:08:03,600
Speaker 1: different things on film. I'm always each and every week,

3781
03:08:03,680 --> 03:08:05,760
Speaker 1: each and every practice try to gain so much information

3782
03:08:05,840 --> 03:08:09,000
Speaker 1: where I can do different little techniques and details on

3783
03:08:09,560 --> 03:08:13,000
Speaker 1: reading defenses. Uh, you know, sometimes they win, sometimes I win,

3784
03:08:13,200 --> 03:08:15,440
Speaker 1: but I always try to, you know, make sure that's

3785
03:08:15,480 --> 03:08:17,240
Speaker 1: the majority of the game. And then after that, I

3786
03:08:17,360 --> 03:08:19,720
Speaker 1: just let my athletic ability in my IQ and just

3787
03:08:19,879 --> 03:08:23,080
Speaker 1: kind of reacting my gut feeling just take over and

3788
03:08:23,200 --> 03:08:26,080
Speaker 1: just play football. And that's a lot of the you know,

3789
03:08:26,520 --> 03:08:28,760
Speaker 1: a lot of the time being but I guess a

3790
03:08:28,840 --> 03:08:30,800
Speaker 1: lot of the mental part is pre snapping then right

3791
03:08:30,840 --> 03:08:32,280
Speaker 1: when I get the ball. Then after that I just

3792
03:08:32,400 --> 03:08:35,840
Speaker 1: react and play football. And it really is. It's it's

3793
03:08:35,879 --> 03:08:38,920
Speaker 1: a pretty amazing combo. The instinctive to go with the intelligence.

3794
03:08:39,080 --> 03:08:40,840
Speaker 1: You know, he does so many things that are either

3795
03:08:41,800 --> 03:08:45,520
Speaker 1: off script or just some A couple of years ago,

3796
03:08:45,600 --> 03:08:48,320
Speaker 1: behind that offensive line, it was survival more than anything else.

3797
03:08:48,360 --> 03:08:52,119
Speaker 1: It was Darwinism kicking in. But it's really it's almost

3798
03:08:52,160 --> 03:08:54,800
Speaker 1: an unfair combination of it. Once he's able to harness

3799
03:08:54,879 --> 03:08:56,400
Speaker 1: this whole thing and take this team to where we

3800
03:08:56,440 --> 03:08:59,320
Speaker 1: all think they can go eventually. But the instinctive combined

3801
03:08:59,360 --> 03:09:02,160
Speaker 1: with the intelligence, with the Shawan is uh, it's it's

3802
03:09:02,320 --> 03:09:04,520
Speaker 1: it's been very fascinating to watch over the last couple

3803
03:09:04,520 --> 03:09:06,800
Speaker 1: of Sean. It's such a rare combination too. I mean

3804
03:09:07,120 --> 03:09:09,440
Speaker 1: in a day and age where all of a sudden,

3805
03:09:09,480 --> 03:09:12,960
Speaker 1: the dual threat quarterback is is sought out. You know,

3806
03:09:13,200 --> 03:09:14,720
Speaker 1: used to the guy had to he had to fight

3807
03:09:14,840 --> 03:09:16,880
Speaker 1: through everything just to be a quarterback. And now that

3808
03:09:17,000 --> 03:09:19,920
Speaker 1: guy is trained. From the minute you see that he's

3809
03:09:19,920 --> 03:09:23,240
Speaker 1: athletic and he can spin it. Um. You know, there's

3810
03:09:23,360 --> 03:09:25,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of athletic guys out there that can

3811
03:09:25,240 --> 03:09:27,800
Speaker 1: throw the football. Went but when you add in all

3812
03:09:27,840 --> 03:09:31,480
Speaker 1: the experience that he's had. Um, the the intelligence in

3813
03:09:31,600 --> 03:09:35,680
Speaker 1: football intelligence football IQ is just so freaking high man,

3814
03:09:36,040 --> 03:09:38,440
Speaker 1: the willingness to be coached by anybody and everybody. I

3815
03:09:38,480 --> 03:09:39,960
Speaker 1: told you the story about the night we had the

3816
03:09:40,320 --> 03:09:42,240
Speaker 1: head him in here at the Verizon Artist Lounge and

3817
03:09:42,400 --> 03:09:44,760
Speaker 1: literally he sought me out after to talk about a route,

3818
03:09:44,800 --> 03:09:47,119
Speaker 1: I mean, just a basic football one oh one route

3819
03:09:47,120 --> 03:09:50,000
Speaker 1: because he was interested in something that I'd said, Uh,

3820
03:09:50,160 --> 03:09:51,920
Speaker 1: an old, washed up quarterback, you know, I mean what

3821
03:09:52,240 --> 03:09:54,000
Speaker 1: that's just the kind of guy he is. And when

3822
03:09:54,040 --> 03:09:57,240
Speaker 1: you put all of that stuff together, Um, we can

3823
03:09:57,320 --> 03:09:59,520
Speaker 1: talk about how people were raised, and we can talk

3824
03:09:59,520 --> 03:10:03,000
Speaker 1: about how they've been coached, but you see guys sometimes

3825
03:10:03,080 --> 03:10:05,200
Speaker 1: that they Larry Allen was put on his damn earth

3826
03:10:05,240 --> 03:10:06,640
Speaker 1: to be an offensive line and be one of the

3827
03:10:06,680 --> 03:10:09,160
Speaker 1: best thing to get ever to do it. Deshaun Watson.

3828
03:10:09,200 --> 03:10:11,160
Speaker 1: Whether you're a Clinton fan and you watched him, you know,

3829
03:10:11,280 --> 03:10:13,800
Speaker 1: the two National Championship games, or you're an NFL fan

3830
03:10:13,840 --> 03:10:15,959
Speaker 1: of Texas fan and you watch him. Now that young

3831
03:10:16,040 --> 03:10:18,160
Speaker 1: fellas a leader of men that was put here to

3832
03:10:18,240 --> 03:10:20,320
Speaker 1: play the quarterback position at a high level. I mean,

3833
03:10:20,520 --> 03:10:23,280
Speaker 1: it's just it's just the fact of the matter. And

3834
03:10:23,440 --> 03:10:28,440
Speaker 1: he does he maximizes, you know, the potential, he maximizes.

3835
03:10:28,560 --> 03:10:31,400
Speaker 1: He plays add or above his ceiling consistently. So it's

3836
03:10:32,200 --> 03:10:34,480
Speaker 1: it's he's definitely wired in a way that it's going

3837
03:10:34,560 --> 03:10:35,720
Speaker 1: to be fun for me and you to cover the

3838
03:10:35,760 --> 03:10:38,000
Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, no, I can't. Absolutely no. I feel

3839
03:10:38,040 --> 03:10:40,760
Speaker 1: fortunate to get the opportunity to do that. He's brought

3840
03:10:40,840 --> 03:10:45,560
Speaker 1: up multiple times Clint during this preseason the process with

3841
03:10:45,760 --> 03:10:49,360
Speaker 1: Tim Kelly and how now with Tim Kelly being the

3842
03:10:49,400 --> 03:10:52,600
Speaker 1: play caller, he's obviously going to be working more closely

3843
03:10:52,760 --> 03:10:57,039
Speaker 1: and exclusively with him, as opposed to having Bill O'Brien

3844
03:10:57,080 --> 03:10:58,760
Speaker 1: be the play caller, where Bill O'Brien is also the

3845
03:10:58,840 --> 03:11:01,080
Speaker 1: head coach in the general man d has several other things,

3846
03:11:01,120 --> 03:11:03,400
Speaker 1: and I think it's it's very cool that O'Brien kind

3847
03:11:03,440 --> 03:11:05,920
Speaker 1: of has both the self awareness along with the confidence

3848
03:11:05,959 --> 03:11:08,760
Speaker 1: in Tim Kelly to be able to pull off delegating

3849
03:11:08,840 --> 03:11:11,320
Speaker 1: these play calling duties. I want to take this from

3850
03:11:11,360 --> 03:11:14,320
Speaker 1: the Deshaun perspective though, because you're the former quarterback. How

3851
03:11:14,440 --> 03:11:16,320
Speaker 1: much does that help to Shaun now to be able

3852
03:11:16,360 --> 03:11:18,200
Speaker 1: to maybe see things a little more clearly and not

3853
03:11:18,320 --> 03:11:21,280
Speaker 1: have not have multiple voices or at least the voice

3854
03:11:21,320 --> 03:11:23,120
Speaker 1: that he needs to listen to the most be somebody

3855
03:11:23,120 --> 03:11:26,320
Speaker 1: who's got three other jobs going on, Well, how will

3856
03:11:26,360 --> 03:11:29,560
Speaker 1: that help him this year? Tremendously? I mean, I think

3857
03:11:29,720 --> 03:11:32,840
Speaker 1: the most importantly, and not not to avoid the way

3858
03:11:32,959 --> 03:11:35,440
Speaker 1: the way that you you couch that question. I think

3859
03:11:35,480 --> 03:11:39,160
Speaker 1: the biggest part of the dynamic you're talking about is

3860
03:11:39,240 --> 03:11:42,680
Speaker 1: he is now the alpha in the room, right He

3861
03:11:42,800 --> 03:11:45,200
Speaker 1: being Deshaun is now the alpha in the room, and

3862
03:11:45,320 --> 03:11:47,360
Speaker 1: I mean the room, on the play, in the huddle,

3863
03:11:47,600 --> 03:11:51,200
Speaker 1: on the sideline. The guy that he communicates with that's

3864
03:11:51,240 --> 03:11:53,800
Speaker 1: solely responsible for getting him to play at or above

3865
03:11:53,840 --> 03:11:56,360
Speaker 1: his ceiling every day on Sunday and win football games

3866
03:11:56,400 --> 03:11:59,560
Speaker 1: offensively is Tim Kelly and Tim Kelly. And this is

3867
03:11:59,600 --> 03:12:01,200
Speaker 1: no dis respect because I think this is the way

3868
03:12:01,240 --> 03:12:04,360
Speaker 1: that the quarterback room should be built. Troy Troy Aikman

3869
03:12:04,480 --> 03:12:07,640
Speaker 1: wasn't asking Wade Wilson what plays he liked, or asking

3870
03:12:07,800 --> 03:12:11,320
Speaker 1: Jack Riley or Ernie Zampez what play he liked that

3871
03:12:11,440 --> 03:12:14,600
Speaker 1: week during Ken Troy was telling them what in the

3872
03:12:14,640 --> 03:12:17,120
Speaker 1: hell he liked and what he wanted on the game plan.

3873
03:12:17,440 --> 03:12:22,080
Speaker 1: In this situation here with Tim Kelly being the one

3874
03:12:22,240 --> 03:12:25,640
Speaker 1: person that's responsible for Deshaun Watson and that being their relationship.

3875
03:12:25,959 --> 03:12:28,840
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is the alpha in the room, and I

3876
03:12:28,959 --> 03:12:33,600
Speaker 1: think that dynamic of the relationship between them two is

3877
03:12:33,680 --> 03:12:36,680
Speaker 1: where there's the most room for growth. And all of

3878
03:12:36,760 --> 03:12:39,600
Speaker 1: a sudden, I've heard people talk about, well, DeAndre Hopkins

3879
03:12:39,680 --> 03:12:42,880
Speaker 1: not being here really opens the door for Deshaun Watson

3880
03:12:42,920 --> 03:12:45,279
Speaker 1: to take over this offense and this be his offense.

3881
03:12:45,400 --> 03:12:47,040
Speaker 1: And I don't know how much truth is that. Hell,

3882
03:12:47,080 --> 03:12:49,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't in the huddle with DeAndre Hopkins, but I

3883
03:12:49,240 --> 03:12:51,160
Speaker 1: know I know this, and it's a it's a fact.

3884
03:12:51,280 --> 03:12:54,240
Speaker 1: Jack bill O'Brien, the head coach, walks in the room,

3885
03:12:54,320 --> 03:12:57,720
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson ain't the Alph in the room. And when

3886
03:12:57,800 --> 03:12:59,840
Speaker 1: he takes over the game, you know, the game plant Thursday, Friday,

3887
03:13:00,240 --> 03:13:02,800
Speaker 1: and Sunday and calls the plays on Sunday. Bill O'Brien's

3888
03:13:02,840 --> 03:13:04,720
Speaker 1: the alpha period, He's the GM in the head coach.

3889
03:13:04,800 --> 03:13:07,000
Speaker 1: There's no if ands or butts about it. Remove that

3890
03:13:07,160 --> 03:13:10,600
Speaker 1: alpha from the situation, and now you've got Deshaun Watson

3891
03:13:11,040 --> 03:13:13,320
Speaker 1: who was in a position to take the bull by

3892
03:13:13,360 --> 03:13:16,040
Speaker 1: the horns with this offense. And I just I think

3893
03:13:16,160 --> 03:13:19,920
Speaker 1: that is ultimately Sean the way that a quarterback room

3894
03:13:20,000 --> 03:13:23,920
Speaker 1: should be. It's streamlined one guy, and it's streamlined with

3895
03:13:24,000 --> 03:13:27,640
Speaker 1: the quarterback that's your franchise guy running the show. Yeah. Well,

3896
03:13:27,680 --> 03:13:29,720
Speaker 1: inherently means you have a quarterback that's good enough to

3897
03:13:29,800 --> 03:13:31,600
Speaker 1: structure the room. You bet, you right? You know, I

3898
03:13:31,680 --> 03:13:34,560
Speaker 1: mean they're power struggle. No, they weren't structuring that in

3899
03:13:34,680 --> 03:13:37,240
Speaker 1: Jacksonville when Bordles was the coil back. They didn't care.

3900
03:13:37,600 --> 03:13:38,960
Speaker 1: You know, the play they wanted to run was the

3901
03:13:39,000 --> 03:13:40,959
Speaker 1: one that didn't turn the ball over. That's the play

3902
03:13:41,000 --> 03:13:43,360
Speaker 1: they wanted to run. Um. I was thinking about this

3903
03:13:43,480 --> 03:13:45,320
Speaker 1: just watching Tim Kelly's press conference, I think it was

3904
03:13:45,400 --> 03:13:47,440
Speaker 1: last week. I'm just looking at him, going, you must

3905
03:13:47,480 --> 03:13:49,760
Speaker 1: feel like the luckiest solb on the play. Your first

3906
03:13:49,840 --> 03:13:52,760
Speaker 1: job calling plays in the NFL, and your calling plays

3907
03:13:53,080 --> 03:13:55,960
Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson and and a bunch of guys that

3908
03:13:56,120 --> 03:13:59,480
Speaker 1: run four, four forties and below. Yes, in an offensive

3909
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3910
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Speaker 1: ten for all your Texans and your NFL talk, So Clint.

4029
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Speaker 1: NFL power ranking done by random people with subjective opinions.

4030
03:21:04,040 --> 03:21:07,000
Speaker 1: This one is from NFL dot Com by a person

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Speaker 1: by the name of Dan Hanss. And it's not that

4032
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Speaker 1: I take Dan Hanss's opinion to be any sort of

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03:21:12,920 --> 03:21:15,080
Speaker 1: gospel or anything that's going to get me worked up.

4034
03:21:15,800 --> 03:21:17,760
Speaker 1: I just want to use this as a talking point

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03:21:18,160 --> 03:21:21,320
Speaker 1: to illustrate why the next few weeks are so important

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03:21:21,360 --> 03:21:23,560
Speaker 1: for the Texans to get everything buttoned down and ready

4037
03:21:23,600 --> 03:21:26,920
Speaker 1: for the start of the season. In these particular power rankings,

4038
03:21:26,959 --> 03:21:29,960
Speaker 1: the Texans are rated sixteenth of the thirty two NFL teams,

4039
03:21:30,080 --> 03:21:32,720
Speaker 1: which is you know, which is fine. Obviously we're hoping

4040
03:21:32,760 --> 03:21:34,440
Speaker 1: for them to be ranked much higher than that when

4041
03:21:34,480 --> 03:21:37,000
Speaker 1: the season gets going. But I could see where somebody

4042
03:21:37,080 --> 03:21:38,800
Speaker 1: outside looking in would look at this team and go

4043
03:21:38,840 --> 03:21:40,280
Speaker 1: I have no idea which way this team could go,

4044
03:21:40,360 --> 03:21:42,320
Speaker 1: even though they've won the division the last two years.

4045
03:21:43,160 --> 03:21:46,720
Speaker 1: It could go one way, it could go the negative way.

4046
03:21:46,800 --> 03:21:49,760
Speaker 1: If this, you know, if winning all these close games

4047
03:21:49,840 --> 03:21:52,520
Speaker 1: catches up with them, and even with Deshaun Watson is

4048
03:21:52,560 --> 03:21:55,959
Speaker 1: your quarterback, the DeAndre Hopkins trade starts to feel very real.

4049
03:21:56,080 --> 03:21:58,720
Speaker 1: David Johnson isn't what Bill O'Brien hopes he's going to be.

4050
03:21:58,920 --> 03:22:01,200
Speaker 1: The defense doesn't improve. You can very easily see this

4051
03:22:01,240 --> 03:22:02,720
Speaker 1: team going seven and nine or eight and eight, even

4052
03:22:02,720 --> 03:22:04,320
Speaker 1: though I have a hard time believing it. Deshaun Watson

4053
03:22:04,400 --> 03:22:07,400
Speaker 1: quarterback team, whatever goes seven and nine, but it's out there,

4054
03:22:07,920 --> 03:22:09,960
Speaker 1: or it could go the other way, and then maybe

4055
03:22:09,959 --> 03:22:12,080
Speaker 1: you have a team that makes it as far or

4056
03:22:12,120 --> 03:22:14,199
Speaker 1: further than they've ever made it in the playoffs before.

4057
03:22:14,400 --> 03:22:17,520
Speaker 1: So sixteenth, from that standpoint, feels appropriate to put them there.

4058
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Speaker 1: Here's the part that concerns me, and you tell me

4059
03:22:20,080 --> 03:22:22,400
Speaker 1: if I should be as concerned as I am. Here

4060
03:22:22,520 --> 03:22:25,080
Speaker 1: are several of the teams that are in the top

4061
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Speaker 1: twelve in these rankings. Kansas City is one, no big

4062
03:22:29,080 --> 03:22:34,039
Speaker 1: surprise there, Defending Super Bowl champs. Baltimore is three, Tennessee's five,

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Speaker 1: Green Bay is eight, Indianapolis is ten, Minnesota eleven, and

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is twelve. I don't know how close you've looked

4065
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Speaker 1: at the Texans schedule, but that is nine of their

4066
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Speaker 1: sixteen games are represented by teams in the top twelve

4067
03:22:48,920 --> 03:22:51,320
Speaker 1: in this one person's power ranking. I disagree with some

4068
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Speaker 1: of these teams and where he's got him in whatever,

4069
03:22:53,680 --> 03:22:57,480
Speaker 1: but these are all point is, these are all good teams.

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Speaker 1: Nine of their games and oh, by the way, six

4071
03:23:00,920 --> 03:23:04,480
Speaker 1: of those seven or six six of those uh, however

4072
03:23:04,560 --> 03:23:06,720
Speaker 1: many teams. Six of those nine teams they played before

4073
03:23:06,800 --> 03:23:09,400
Speaker 1: the bye week in Week eight, six of their first

4074
03:23:09,440 --> 03:23:14,160
Speaker 1: seven games are against Kansas City, Baltimore, Tennessee, Green Bay, Minnesota,

4075
03:23:14,240 --> 03:23:19,680
Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh. Yikes. Yes, yeah, when the schedule got dropped, man,

4076
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Speaker 1: I mean you looked at it, and you we hoped

4077
03:23:22,080 --> 03:23:24,160
Speaker 1: I know, Ron and I talked about you know, just

4078
03:23:24,320 --> 03:23:26,600
Speaker 1: you just hope there's no segments of the schedule where

4079
03:23:26,600 --> 03:23:28,760
Speaker 1: it's just murderers row and you catch three or four

4080
03:23:28,840 --> 03:23:31,160
Speaker 1: teams in a row that that, uh, you know, are

4081
03:23:31,200 --> 03:23:33,160
Speaker 1: just gonna give you fits, and I'll be damn. I'll

4082
03:23:33,160 --> 03:23:36,840
Speaker 1: be damn the catching before October six of the first seven.

4083
03:23:36,920 --> 03:23:39,440
Speaker 1: The only break you get, I believe is Jacksonville in

4084
03:23:39,520 --> 03:23:41,880
Speaker 1: the first seven. By the way, who, by the way,

4085
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Speaker 1: ranked thirty two it is a true break will throw

4086
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Speaker 1: you throw you a cookie right two? Yeah? Yeah, man,

4087
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Speaker 1: I mean the good thing is is how light the

4088
03:23:52,640 --> 03:23:54,440
Speaker 1: back end of the schedule is. But but you got

4089
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Speaker 1: to get through that front end. And I'll say for

4090
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Speaker 1: the Texans, at least you know you're gonna be healthy

4091
03:23:58,280 --> 03:24:00,920
Speaker 1: out of the gate. So yeah, so you've got the

4092
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Speaker 1: early part of the season with health. Health. I mean,

4093
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you pay much attention to SEC football,

4094
03:24:06,680 --> 03:24:08,000
Speaker 1: but I think the only team in the country with

4095
03:24:08,080 --> 03:24:11,240
Speaker 1: a more difficult schedule or an Arkansas razorback who caught

4096
03:24:11,280 --> 03:24:14,840
Speaker 1: an all SEC schedule because of COVID nineteen. Yeah. Look,

4097
03:24:15,120 --> 03:24:19,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's I always look at stuff like this.

4098
03:24:19,879 --> 03:24:22,840
Speaker 1: I embrace things like that. That's what I wanted to ask. Okay,

4099
03:24:22,920 --> 03:24:27,160
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm I'm scared scaredycat radio host here sitting

4100
03:24:27,200 --> 03:24:28,840
Speaker 1: looking at all these hard teams, going, boy, this looks

4101
03:24:28,920 --> 03:24:31,600
Speaker 1: really difficult. Yeah, you know that's the that's radio host

4102
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Speaker 1: don't like doing stuff that's hard. This looks really hard,

4103
03:24:33,840 --> 03:24:37,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, likes Um. So, uh, that's

4104
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Speaker 1: why I wanted to get your perspective as a former player,

4105
03:24:39,600 --> 03:24:41,879
Speaker 1: What what do you think even in a locker room.

4106
03:24:41,920 --> 03:24:43,879
Speaker 1: They may not even be as talented as the Texans.

4107
03:24:44,000 --> 03:24:46,080
Speaker 1: Right now, I feel like hope springs eternal everywhere this

4108
03:24:46,240 --> 03:24:50,200
Speaker 1: time of year in the NFL. Um What are what

4109
03:24:50,440 --> 03:24:52,720
Speaker 1: I think you were about to go there are? What

4110
03:24:52,800 --> 03:24:54,920
Speaker 1: are they saying? What would you say? What would former

4111
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Speaker 1: teammates of years be saying? Looking at a schedule like

4112
03:24:57,440 --> 03:24:59,480
Speaker 1: this early in the season. Well, I think you look

4113
03:24:59,520 --> 03:25:03,360
Speaker 1: at at Tennessee, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Minnesota, and Pittsburgh and

4114
03:25:03,400 --> 03:25:05,280
Speaker 1: you go, hey, they're not better than us. I mean

4115
03:25:05,400 --> 03:25:07,800
Speaker 1: that we We're glad they're rank so high because we're

4116
03:25:07,840 --> 03:25:09,560
Speaker 1: gonna get a shot at them. And I think if

4117
03:25:09,600 --> 03:25:12,320
Speaker 1: you look at the roster or roster, I don't think

4118
03:25:12,400 --> 03:25:15,360
Speaker 1: that there there's any just no brainer they're better than us.

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03:25:15,440 --> 03:25:19,200
Speaker 1: These are teams that that the Texans should have an

4120
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Speaker 1: advantage over in terms of just overall skill set, assuming

4121
03:25:22,600 --> 03:25:25,000
Speaker 1: everybody's healthy. So I think the biggest part is you

4122
03:25:25,120 --> 03:25:26,800
Speaker 1: look at it and you go throw the rankings out

4123
03:25:26,840 --> 03:25:29,840
Speaker 1: the window. These are great wins if you can go

4124
03:25:29,959 --> 03:25:33,160
Speaker 1: get them, and we should as Houston Texans, we should

4125
03:25:33,240 --> 03:25:37,200
Speaker 1: be able to go get a win versus Tennessee, versus Indianapolis,

4126
03:25:37,400 --> 03:25:40,840
Speaker 1: versus Minnesota, versus Pittsburgh and versus Green Bay. None of

4127
03:25:40,879 --> 03:25:45,280
Speaker 1: those teams are gonna bring rosters in here where you go, oh,

4128
03:25:45,560 --> 03:25:48,680
Speaker 1: what in the hell are we gonna do? And then

4129
03:25:48,720 --> 03:25:50,960
Speaker 1: the other two Kansas City in Baltimore, you catch them

4130
03:25:51,000 --> 03:25:53,400
Speaker 1: out of the gate first and foremost one of them.

4131
03:25:53,440 --> 03:25:56,520
Speaker 1: You got all offseason to prep four Kansas City opening

4132
03:25:56,600 --> 03:25:59,560
Speaker 1: night September tenth on Thursday, and then you got ten days,

4133
03:25:59,600 --> 03:26:02,760
Speaker 1: which is extra time to prepare for Baltimore. So the

4134
03:26:02,800 --> 03:26:05,040
Speaker 1: two most difficult games on your schedule or game one

4135
03:26:05,120 --> 03:26:07,440
Speaker 1: and two, and you've got extra time to prepare for

4136
03:26:07,520 --> 03:26:10,720
Speaker 1: those two teams. That's the way that a winning organization

4137
03:26:11,120 --> 03:26:15,280
Speaker 1: that's on the cusp of either either getting over the

4138
03:26:15,360 --> 03:26:18,720
Speaker 1: hurdle and getting to the FC Championship or not, they're

4139
03:26:18,760 --> 03:26:21,080
Speaker 1: there that that's that's where their minds are at, is Hey,

4140
03:26:21,160 --> 03:26:24,640
Speaker 1: we gotta take one more step, baby, and we are there. Um.

4141
03:26:24,959 --> 03:26:27,840
Speaker 1: That's the way they got to be thinking. Is you

4142
03:26:28,080 --> 03:26:30,280
Speaker 1: you there's nobody on that schedule that you don't feel

4143
03:26:30,320 --> 03:26:33,240
Speaker 1: like you can play with, and the two most difficult

4144
03:26:33,320 --> 03:26:35,480
Speaker 1: ones you're catching out of the gate with extra time

4145
03:26:35,480 --> 03:26:38,080
Speaker 1: to prepare. When I try to make my predictions on

4146
03:26:38,200 --> 03:26:40,680
Speaker 1: the Texans. I usually divide the schedule up into three

4147
03:26:40,720 --> 03:26:44,640
Speaker 1: different buckets, and the buckets are the buckets are must wins,

4148
03:26:44,879 --> 03:26:47,320
Speaker 1: which means those are teams you should beat, Like those

4149
03:26:47,360 --> 03:26:50,959
Speaker 1: are two like you, like you you've got both Jacksonville games,

4150
03:26:51,040 --> 03:26:53,360
Speaker 1: Like you can't lose one of those games. Um, the

4151
03:26:53,480 --> 03:26:56,160
Speaker 1: home games against the other divisional opponents. You know, maybe

4152
03:26:56,160 --> 03:26:58,840
Speaker 1: those are closer to coin flippers, but like them, Like

4153
03:26:59,000 --> 03:27:01,640
Speaker 1: Chicago is not a good tea, it's a must Cincinnati

4154
03:27:01,680 --> 03:27:03,560
Speaker 1: at home. You gotta win that game. There's usually like

4155
03:27:04,000 --> 03:27:06,360
Speaker 1: five or six if the Texans are a team that's

4156
03:27:06,720 --> 03:27:09,080
Speaker 1: that's in the middle of the pack of the league,

4157
03:27:09,400 --> 03:27:11,520
Speaker 1: like this guy thinks he is. There, there are five

4158
03:27:11,640 --> 03:27:13,480
Speaker 1: or six games on the schedule that you absolutely have

4159
03:27:13,560 --> 03:27:15,080
Speaker 1: to win. Cleveland, I think you gotta win. You gotta

4160
03:27:15,080 --> 03:27:16,880
Speaker 1: be Cleveland. You're better than Cleveland, like that kind of thing.

4161
03:27:17,320 --> 03:27:19,240
Speaker 1: Then there's a couple of games at the other end

4162
03:27:19,360 --> 03:27:21,600
Speaker 1: that are that are ILL call steals, Like if you

4163
03:27:21,680 --> 03:27:24,000
Speaker 1: win this game, you are doing something very unexpected. You're

4164
03:27:24,000 --> 03:27:26,720
Speaker 1: probably an underdog of more than four or five points.

4165
03:27:27,000 --> 03:27:29,280
Speaker 1: You gotta steal those games. Everything else in between I

4166
03:27:29,360 --> 03:27:31,360
Speaker 1: just call a coin flipper. So you're you know, you

4167
03:27:31,480 --> 03:27:34,119
Speaker 1: split those games, you win your must win games, and boy,

4168
03:27:34,120 --> 03:27:36,560
Speaker 1: if you can steal one of those steal games, usually

4169
03:27:36,600 --> 03:27:38,760
Speaker 1: you find yourself at ten and six or eleven and five.

4170
03:27:39,080 --> 03:27:42,040
Speaker 1: I look at this schedule, Clint, and I go, Really,

4171
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Speaker 1: the only two games that I would put in the

4172
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Speaker 1: category of you gotta steal these games are actually the

4173
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Speaker 1: very first two on the schedule. You know what I mean.

4174
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Speaker 1: It's it's at Kansas City. They're ten point underdogs. Last

4175
03:27:52,120 --> 03:27:55,879
Speaker 1: I looked in that game. And then home for Baltimore. Look,

4176
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Speaker 1: that's a team that was fourteen and two and put

4177
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Speaker 1: it on you last year. Baltimore is can sentered generally

4178
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Speaker 1: speA on a neutral field, Baltimore would be favored by

4179
03:28:03,560 --> 03:28:07,400
Speaker 1: more than a touchdown against you, probably. So it's one

4180
03:28:07,480 --> 03:28:09,400
Speaker 1: thing that you have those two games and they exist

4181
03:28:09,440 --> 03:28:12,279
Speaker 1: somewhere in the schedule, that they exist at the very beginning,

4182
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Speaker 1: I think presents a very unique opportunity to where if

4183
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Speaker 1: you come out of those games one and one, yeah,

4184
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Speaker 1: you've got to inherently be feeling pretty as long as

4185
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Speaker 1: the one that you lost wasn't like the Baltimore game

4186
03:28:21,800 --> 03:28:23,280
Speaker 1: last year. Like you go into Kansas City and you

4187
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Speaker 1: beat you beat the Chiefs, you go, Wow, that's an

4188
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Speaker 1: impressive win. That's a really good win. They did that

4189
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Speaker 1: last year too, they went into Kansas City and beat

4190
03:28:29,280 --> 03:28:31,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the regular season. Then you go back

4191
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Speaker 1: and you go home and you give it all back

4192
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Speaker 1: if you lose to Baltimore forty one to seven again.

4193
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Speaker 1: But I think generally speaking, if they go one and one,

4194
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Speaker 1: I think if they go four and three in those

4195
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Speaker 1: first seven games Kansas City, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Jacksonville, Tennessee,

4196
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Speaker 1: Green Bay, they go four and three, I think I'm

4197
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Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about them wining ten or eleven games again.

4198
03:28:47,320 --> 03:28:48,960
Speaker 1: This year for sure, said it from to jump soon

4199
03:28:49,000 --> 03:28:50,879
Speaker 1: as the schedule dropped. If they hit the bye week

4200
03:28:51,320 --> 03:28:54,600
Speaker 1: week eight above five hundred, yeah, they're in business. Yeah,

4201
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Speaker 1: because the back end. If you if you hit the

4202
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Speaker 1: bye week after the first seven games and you're sitting

4203
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Speaker 1: at four three with Kansas City, Baltimore, Tennessee, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Minnesota,

4204
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Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh behind you, then four and three against that slate,

4205
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Speaker 1: that means you're gonna be You're gonna have some success

4206
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Speaker 1: in that second half in the last nine games. With

4207
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Speaker 1: that slate. It means you've done some good thing. It means,

4208
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Speaker 1: it means, it means that a decent chunk of what

4209
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Speaker 1: you put this team together to do what you worked

4210
03:29:21,920 --> 03:29:23,920
Speaker 1: on in the preseason. If you're four and three against

4211
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Speaker 1: that schedule, again, assuming all these teams are coming in

4212
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Speaker 1: with similar help. Like if Aaron Rodgers goes down in

4213
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Speaker 1: Week four and you're playing the Green Bay team and

4214
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Speaker 1: it's got Jordan Love in their quarterback and you're four

4215
03:29:34,200 --> 03:29:35,560
Speaker 1: and three at the bye week and that's one of

4216
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Speaker 1: your wins, it changes the calculus very very slightly changes.

4217
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Speaker 1: But if you're four and three against these teams and

4218
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Speaker 1: all these teams have their quarterbacks, let's just put it real,

4219
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Speaker 1: boil it down, real simple. You beat those seven quarterbacks

4220
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Speaker 1: and you're four and three, it means a lot of

4221
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Speaker 1: what you wanted to do this offseason is probably working

4222
03:29:50,200 --> 03:29:54,160
Speaker 1: for you. And it's gonna work really well against Jacksonville, Cleveland, Detroit,

4223
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Speaker 1: ind twice, Chicago, Cincinnati, Tennessee again in your place. That

4224
03:29:58,760 --> 03:30:00,840
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Yeah, I mean the way I look

4225
03:30:00,879 --> 03:30:03,119
Speaker 1: at the whole thing, Sean, is you get that those

4226
03:30:03,160 --> 03:30:05,600
Speaker 1: two big games versus Kansas City in Baltimore, you should

4227
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Speaker 1: be healthy for the most part, first two games of

4228
03:30:07,400 --> 03:30:09,600
Speaker 1: this season, and you get extra time to prepare, and

4229
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Speaker 1: then can you be above five hundred at the break

4230
03:30:12,040 --> 03:30:13,840
Speaker 1: and you be above five hundred at the bye week?

4231
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Speaker 1: And if you are, if you're four and three, and

4232
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Speaker 1: it doesn't sound real sexy, but when you look down

4233
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Speaker 1: the pipe at what's coming, that's that's good signs for

4234
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Speaker 1: the Texans. If you're four and three at the bye week,

4235
03:30:23,200 --> 03:30:26,840
Speaker 1: you're probably favored. You're definitely favored at Jacksonville. You're probably

4236
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Speaker 1: favored at Cleveland, depending on what Cleveland looks like to

4237
03:30:29,240 --> 03:30:31,160
Speaker 1: that point. Cleveland sort of a wild card this year.

4238
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Speaker 1: But I think you're a better team than Cleve Cleveland.

4239
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Speaker 1: I favored at home against New England. I think you're

4240
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Speaker 1: favored in Detroit. I think you're favored at home against Indie.

4241
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Speaker 1: I think in Chicago. You know, Chicago and Detroit, you

4242
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Speaker 1: don't know. Those are weird road games that are outside

4243
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Speaker 1: the division. If one of them is, you know, if

4244
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Speaker 1: one of them when you're playing them is seven and

4245
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Speaker 1: five at that point or something, maybe they're favored by

4246
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Speaker 1: a point point and a half. But you're favorite in

4247
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Speaker 1: most of these games, is my point here. If you're

4248
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Speaker 1: four and three at the bye week, then you're gonna

4249
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Speaker 1: be favored. You got nine games left, You're gonna be

4250
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Speaker 1: favored in six of those games at least, probably a

4251
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Speaker 1: coin flipper in the other three. The two that you

4252
03:31:02,560 --> 03:31:05,480
Speaker 1: mentioned that that concerned me a little bit, or Indie twice.

4253
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Speaker 1: You gotta play them obviously twice. I think I think

4254
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Speaker 1: high of Indie for some reason right now. And then Chicago.

4255
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Speaker 1: I think Chicago with Nick Foles pulling the trigger, um,

4256
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Speaker 1: I think, is a different team and they may be

4257
03:31:15,440 --> 03:31:17,320
Speaker 1: a little better than folks things. I think. What scares

4258
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Speaker 1: me about two games here, there's there's two games that

4259
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Speaker 1: scare me. One is the Chicago game. One is the

4260
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Speaker 1: Detroit game. The Detroit games on Thanksgiving, so it's a

4261
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Speaker 1: short week where you're doing weird stuff. You know, Detroit's

4262
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Speaker 1: used to playing Thanksgiving. You're not. But here's what scares

4263
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Speaker 1: me about those two games is that is the placement

4264
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Speaker 1: on the schedule. You've got New England in week eleven.

4265
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Speaker 1: Then it's a short week to act Detroit, and you've

4266
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Speaker 1: got Indianapolis the following week, so you're sandwiched in between

4267
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Speaker 1: the New England. That the New England game. It's always

4268
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Speaker 1: so important to Bill O'Brien. We know that, and your

4269
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Speaker 1: indie game, and then when you get through that indie game,

4270
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Speaker 1: that Chicago road game is sandwiched in between both indie games.

4271
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Speaker 1: So the place stretch right there because you've got three

4272
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Speaker 1: games that I think are three of the five six

4273
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Speaker 1: most important games on your schedule, and woven in between

4274
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4275
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Speaker 1: conference against two teams that you probably should beat, which

4276
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Speaker 1: scares you. It'd be one thing if it was Green

4277
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4278
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Speaker 1: in in focus. But we saw what happened last year.

4279
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4280
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Speaker 1: They get the doors blown off on by Denver and

4281
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Speaker 1: they've got Tennessee. That Denver game is sandwich in between

4282
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Speaker 1: New England and Tennessee and they got destroyed at home. Yeah. Well,

4283
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Speaker 1: that's the one thing we talked about yesterday. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know, we got to look at the maturity of

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Speaker 1: You can hear me with Seth Payne six am Monday

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03:38:22,440 --> 03:38:25,480
Speaker 1: through Friday, Clint Sterner and Ron the show Hugle on

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03:38:25,560 --> 03:38:28,720
Speaker 1: two to six on weekdays here on Sports Radio six

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Speaker 1: and thirty, two consecutive days of Texans coverage. If you're

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Speaker 1: a fan of the NFL and you can't wait for

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03:38:32,920 --> 03:38:35,800
Speaker 1: September tenth to get here, we have you covered literally

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Speaker 1: every day until there is NFL football, real NFL football

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Speaker 1: back in our lives. Bill Barnwell of ESPN dot com

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03:38:45,080 --> 03:38:48,760
Speaker 1: did a piece Clint earlier this week on players and

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03:38:48,840 --> 03:38:51,960
Speaker 1: coaches with the most to gain and lose this coming season,

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03:38:52,000 --> 03:38:54,600
Speaker 1: and he put them into different buckets. The coaches are

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03:38:54,640 --> 03:38:57,840
Speaker 1: in their own bucket obviously. The players he put into

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03:38:57,879 --> 03:39:00,760
Speaker 1: different buckets like quarterbacks, quarterback who are looking to get

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03:39:00,840 --> 03:39:04,760
Speaker 1: second contracts, and one of the player buckets that he

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03:39:04,840 --> 03:39:08,080
Speaker 1: had was players, veteran players who are trying to hang

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03:39:08,160 --> 03:39:10,360
Speaker 1: on to the last couple years of their contract. We

4394
03:39:10,440 --> 03:39:12,360
Speaker 1: know how it goes in the NFL. You get to

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03:39:12,440 --> 03:39:14,800
Speaker 1: those non guaranteed years and you're highly paid, maybe a

4396
03:39:14,840 --> 03:39:18,440
Speaker 1: little too highly paid, and teams start to make hard decisions.

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03:39:18,480 --> 03:39:19,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could think of a harder

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03:39:19,800 --> 03:39:22,800
Speaker 1: decision the Texans would have to make than doing something

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03:39:22,879 --> 03:39:25,320
Speaker 1: with JJ Watt these last couple years of his contract.

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03:39:25,360 --> 03:39:28,000
Speaker 1: He's got two years left for a total of thirty

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03:39:28,080 --> 03:39:30,760
Speaker 1: three million dollars, which, if you're getting the JJ Watt

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03:39:31,000 --> 03:39:33,320
Speaker 1: from two years ago, or even the JJ Watt that

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03:39:33,400 --> 03:39:35,600
Speaker 1: was on the field when he was healthy last year,

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03:39:36,120 --> 03:39:38,360
Speaker 1: two years thirty three million is an absolute bargain for

4405
03:39:38,440 --> 03:39:40,440
Speaker 1: that version of JJ Watt. He just has to stay

4406
03:39:40,800 --> 03:39:43,440
Speaker 1: healthy and the Texans are doing everything in their power

4407
03:39:43,840 --> 03:39:46,440
Speaker 1: to do that. How do you look at this JJ

4408
03:39:46,560 --> 03:39:48,720
Speaker 1: Watt situation here over the next couple of years, where

4409
03:39:48,720 --> 03:39:51,120
Speaker 1: he's now in his early thirties, he's into two non

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03:39:51,200 --> 03:39:53,840
Speaker 1: guaranteed years on his deal. He made no bones about

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03:39:53,840 --> 03:39:55,160
Speaker 1: the fact he has not gone to the team with

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03:39:55,200 --> 03:39:59,240
Speaker 1: any sort of demand for contractual you know, an extension

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03:39:59,440 --> 03:40:02,120
Speaker 1: or anything like that, which I think is probably probably

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03:40:02,160 --> 03:40:03,680
Speaker 1: smart on his part, just because he hasn't been on

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03:40:03,720 --> 03:40:05,400
Speaker 1: the field a ton the last three or four years.

4416
03:40:05,720 --> 03:40:07,640
Speaker 1: But how do you look at these last two years

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03:40:07,800 --> 03:40:09,800
Speaker 1: of of j J Watt and two years from now,

4418
03:40:09,840 --> 03:40:11,520
Speaker 1: what do you think we're saying about you? Well, as

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03:40:11,600 --> 03:40:13,160
Speaker 1: a fan, I look at it and I go give

4420
03:40:13,200 --> 03:40:15,480
Speaker 1: me eight to ten regular season games and be and

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03:40:15,600 --> 03:40:18,600
Speaker 1: be one full go all Gas no break when the

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Speaker 1: playoffs start. Really give me that at fifteen million year

4423
03:40:21,760 --> 03:40:23,800
Speaker 1: with what he's making the next two years, Yeah, give

4424
03:40:23,879 --> 03:40:26,200
Speaker 1: me eight to ten regular season game, don't don't care

4425
03:40:26,240 --> 03:40:29,000
Speaker 1: when they fall or why you miss, and be ready

4426
03:40:29,080 --> 03:40:31,800
Speaker 1: to rock and roll, not you know the peck injury

4427
03:40:31,840 --> 03:40:33,840
Speaker 1: where you can't practice and you can we're not real sure,

4428
03:40:34,120 --> 03:40:36,560
Speaker 1: but ready to rock and roll when the playoffs or

4429
03:40:36,600 --> 03:40:38,560
Speaker 1: he's on a will fuller plan for me, man, Okay,

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03:40:38,560 --> 03:40:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean those guys are that kind of impact player.

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03:40:40,600 --> 03:40:42,320
Speaker 1: Where give me eight to ten which will help me

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03:40:42,400 --> 03:40:43,760
Speaker 1: get my record where it needs to be to get

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs and the when we get to the playoffs,

4434
03:40:45,920 --> 03:40:48,720
Speaker 1: I need my difference makers available. So as as a

4435
03:40:48,840 --> 03:40:52,200
Speaker 1: fan of the team, I want that's that's what I want. Um.

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03:40:52,360 --> 03:40:54,600
Speaker 1: When you when you look at what you know, what

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03:40:54,720 --> 03:40:57,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna be staring at two years from now, I

4438
03:40:57,959 --> 03:41:02,160
Speaker 1: think it is literally Sean, it's I mean, it's it's

4439
03:41:02,200 --> 03:41:04,080
Speaker 1: one of the spectrum to the other. Right, if if

4440
03:41:04,120 --> 03:41:07,560
Speaker 1: he plays well but stays injured, you're you're having to

4441
03:41:07,640 --> 03:41:09,440
Speaker 1: make a tough decision of do you part ways with

4442
03:41:09,480 --> 03:41:11,680
Speaker 1: a guy like that or or do does he take

4443
03:41:11,760 --> 03:41:14,320
Speaker 1: a you know, a lesser deal, which I doubt he

4444
03:41:14,320 --> 03:41:16,600
Speaker 1: would because I would imagine that that there's there's thirty

4445
03:41:16,600 --> 03:41:18,200
Speaker 1: one other teams around the league that would love to

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03:41:18,280 --> 03:41:22,040
Speaker 1: have JJ half of JJ watt Um on their on

4447
03:41:22,160 --> 03:41:24,160
Speaker 1: their roster for all the reasons we discuss on a

4448
03:41:24,240 --> 03:41:27,240
Speaker 1: daily basis. But if he if he stays relatively healthy

4449
03:41:27,280 --> 03:41:30,119
Speaker 1: at all, now it becomes you know, does he want

4450
03:41:30,120 --> 03:41:32,680
Speaker 1: a long term deal? Does he want to one or

4451
03:41:32,720 --> 03:41:34,760
Speaker 1: two year deal? Yeah? You know, And I think JJ

4452
03:41:34,879 --> 03:41:37,000
Speaker 1: appears to be an extreme, dremely reasonable guy with a

4453
03:41:37,040 --> 03:41:38,920
Speaker 1: lot of things going on off the off the field,

4454
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Speaker 1: and so I just JJ doesn't strike me as a

4455
03:41:41,680 --> 03:41:44,160
Speaker 1: guy that's going to want to play until the wheels

4456
03:41:44,200 --> 03:41:47,160
Speaker 1: fall off. Um, So I think he would. I think

4457
03:41:47,240 --> 03:41:49,800
Speaker 1: he whatever situation they're in in two years, Sean, I

4458
03:41:49,920 --> 03:41:52,480
Speaker 1: think that he would have He and his representation would

4459
03:41:52,520 --> 03:41:54,640
Speaker 1: have a pretty level head about it, and it would

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Speaker 1: it would be a reasonable negotiation, whether it's best case

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03:41:58,600 --> 03:42:02,240
Speaker 1: scenario or worst case scenario. Yeah, the solution Barnwell poses

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03:42:02,240 --> 03:42:03,959
Speaker 1: in here, Clint, I just kind of shake my head out,

4463
03:42:04,040 --> 03:42:05,920
Speaker 1: And I think Barnwell does a nice job with the stuff.

4464
03:42:06,240 --> 03:42:08,000
Speaker 1: I think you need to take a vacation day to

4465
03:42:08,040 --> 03:42:10,000
Speaker 1: read a lot of his articles because they're very, very long.

4466
03:42:10,920 --> 03:42:12,720
Speaker 1: But I think he does a really good job. I

4467
03:42:12,760 --> 03:42:16,120
Speaker 1: think it's intelligent stuff that he writes. But I don't

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03:42:16,120 --> 03:42:18,520
Speaker 1: know that I agree with this part where it's he

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03:42:18,720 --> 03:42:20,879
Speaker 1: says that Watt is due seventeen and a half million

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03:42:20,920 --> 03:42:22,640
Speaker 1: in the final year of his deal. That's next year

4471
03:42:25,520 --> 03:42:28,280
Speaker 1: for a team that's down it's first and second round picks.

4472
03:42:28,920 --> 03:42:31,760
Speaker 1: Houston is already twenty one point six million over the

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03:42:31,840 --> 03:42:34,960
Speaker 1: expected cap next year. Keep in mind, we expect the

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03:42:35,000 --> 03:42:38,199
Speaker 1: cap to go down next year, not up, and that's

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Speaker 1: before giving Deshaun Watson a rays. Okay, this is Barnwell's solution.

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03:42:42,680 --> 03:42:46,240
Speaker 1: I think an extension with significant per game roster bonuses

4477
03:42:46,320 --> 03:42:49,080
Speaker 1: makes more sense than moving on from what but after

4478
03:42:49,200 --> 03:42:51,959
Speaker 1: his last office this last offseason, you can never rule

4479
03:42:52,000 --> 03:42:55,240
Speaker 1: anything out for general manager slash coach Bill O'Brien. That

4480
03:42:55,320 --> 03:42:58,000
Speaker 1: last part's kind of funny. I don't think there's any

4481
03:42:58,080 --> 03:43:00,680
Speaker 1: chance in hell that JJ Watts signs an extend next

4482
03:43:00,720 --> 03:43:04,680
Speaker 1: offseason with per game roster bonuses in it. And here's why,

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Speaker 1: even if he is dinged up this year, I think

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03:43:07,680 --> 03:43:10,160
Speaker 1: if I'm JJ, I play out the rest of that deal,

4485
03:43:10,959 --> 03:43:14,119
Speaker 1: and I wait for somebody to get somebody will give

4486
03:43:14,280 --> 03:43:16,680
Speaker 1: JJ Watt at even at age thirty three, as long

4487
03:43:16,720 --> 03:43:19,359
Speaker 1: as he's still productive when he's on the field, someone's

4488
03:43:19,360 --> 03:43:21,640
Speaker 1: gonna give JJ. You know what JJ wat would turn

4489
03:43:21,680 --> 03:43:25,760
Speaker 1: into and domikinsue. He becomes a one year contract soldier

4490
03:43:25,840 --> 03:43:28,480
Speaker 1: of fortune where teams will give him one year, fourteen

4491
03:43:28,520 --> 03:43:30,960
Speaker 1: million to come rush the past for them for a year.

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03:43:31,080 --> 03:43:33,080
Speaker 1: All day he'll he'll play, He'll just keep trying out

4493
03:43:33,120 --> 03:43:34,920
Speaker 1: teams until he gets to one that wins a super

4494
03:43:35,000 --> 03:43:38,120
Speaker 1: Bowl for all day long, Sean. And I'm gonna tell you, man,

4495
03:43:39,080 --> 03:43:41,160
Speaker 1: just and you know this. Hell, you've been around long

4496
03:43:41,240 --> 03:43:44,240
Speaker 1: enough and watched enough of it at camps and practicing

4497
03:43:44,320 --> 03:43:47,320
Speaker 1: games and film and everything else. But we can say

4498
03:43:47,360 --> 03:43:52,920
Speaker 1: what we want about JJ. But when Netcat's healthy, there's

4499
03:43:52,959 --> 03:43:54,560
Speaker 1: one guy in the league better than him right now.

4500
03:43:55,080 --> 03:43:57,920
Speaker 1: That's Aaron Donald. Right there's one guy in this league

4501
03:43:58,520 --> 03:44:03,320
Speaker 1: better than JJ Watt right now at the defensive line position.

4502
03:44:03,680 --> 03:44:07,840
Speaker 1: There's one guy in this league that is causing reeking.

4503
03:44:08,400 --> 03:44:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean, what this guy does to offenses is honestly,

4504
03:44:12,400 --> 03:44:14,640
Speaker 1: I always say this about it, like you know, I'm

4505
03:44:14,640 --> 03:44:18,080
Speaker 1: glad he's not practicing. It's so disruptive. You can't go

4506
03:44:18,240 --> 03:44:21,840
Speaker 1: one on one. It's so disruptive. He would he would

4507
03:44:22,000 --> 03:44:24,959
Speaker 1: make you lose confidence in Titus Howard. I mean, it's

4508
03:44:25,000 --> 03:44:26,240
Speaker 1: it's one of those where you just go, I mean,

4509
03:44:26,320 --> 03:44:29,320
Speaker 1: just just go, go do your acclamation period schedule on

4510
03:44:29,400 --> 03:44:31,880
Speaker 1: your own and just come out and wrex shot right

4511
03:44:32,080 --> 03:44:35,960
Speaker 1: him going against rookies is hazing. You can't even you

4512
03:44:36,040 --> 03:44:37,440
Speaker 1: can't eat, like right now, the Texas need to be

4513
03:44:37,520 --> 03:44:39,080
Speaker 1: running a lot of empty and a lot of not

4514
03:44:39,360 --> 03:44:42,680
Speaker 1: necessarily empty in the backfield. But five man protections. Could

4515
03:44:42,720 --> 03:44:44,800
Speaker 1: you imagine trying to do that and ones versus ones

4516
03:44:44,840 --> 03:44:47,920
Speaker 1: with JJ Watt over there on Titus Howard side. Titus

4517
03:44:48,080 --> 03:44:50,840
Speaker 1: needs that, But it's just so disruptive. That's how good

4518
03:44:50,920 --> 03:44:53,879
Speaker 1: the guy is. And there's no way barring a back

4519
03:44:53,959 --> 03:44:56,680
Speaker 1: injury or you know, blowing a knee up or something,

4520
03:44:56,959 --> 03:44:59,440
Speaker 1: there's no way that J. J. Watt goes from the

4521
03:44:59,600 --> 03:45:06,680
Speaker 1: second most disruptive defensive lineman in the entire NF al too. Uh,

4522
03:45:07,200 --> 03:45:09,760
Speaker 1: nobody's willing to pay him, you know, give nobody's willing

4523
03:45:09,800 --> 03:45:14,560
Speaker 1: to give me a dominicansoue deal to somewhere where he's

4524
03:45:14,560 --> 03:45:16,560
Speaker 1: getting you know he's getting two hundred thousand a game

4525
03:45:16,680 --> 03:45:18,840
Speaker 1: for a total of three point two million a year,

4526
03:45:18,879 --> 03:45:20,440
Speaker 1: and if he gets this many second and I know

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03:45:20,560 --> 03:45:23,720
Speaker 1: that that's not how I do wonder how JJ is

4528
03:45:23,720 --> 03:45:25,360
Speaker 1: wired to the point where if it did reach that

4529
03:45:25,400 --> 03:45:27,520
Speaker 1: point where he was that level of player that it

4530
03:45:27,600 --> 03:45:30,360
Speaker 1: was more about per game roster bonuses. I do wonder

4531
03:45:30,400 --> 03:45:32,760
Speaker 1: if JJ would would even keep playing football, you know

4532
03:45:32,800 --> 03:45:35,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like JJ loves football, I have no

4533
03:45:35,200 --> 03:45:38,080
Speaker 1: doubt about that, But I think if you've played at

4534
03:45:38,120 --> 03:45:40,840
Speaker 1: a certain level for so long. Look, we've seen plenty

4535
03:45:40,840 --> 03:45:42,800
Speaker 1: of NFL guy you named him at Smith earlier, the

4536
03:45:42,879 --> 03:45:45,240
Speaker 1: Emmett Smith had two years of their zona that we're

4537
03:45:45,280 --> 03:45:48,400
Speaker 1: not great, you know, like there's more guys, you know,

4538
03:45:48,480 --> 03:45:51,040
Speaker 1: Graveyard's full of more guys that stuck it out for

4539
03:45:51,160 --> 03:45:53,480
Speaker 1: a couple of years too many on other teams and

4540
03:45:53,640 --> 03:45:57,040
Speaker 1: things like that, then then retired when you know, then

4541
03:45:57,120 --> 03:45:59,920
Speaker 1: drop the mic, so to spits. JJ strikes me as

4542
03:45:59,920 --> 03:46:01,960
Speaker 1: a guy who might drop the mic in part because

4543
03:46:02,000 --> 03:46:04,720
Speaker 1: he's got so many other things potentially going on after

4544
03:46:04,879 --> 03:46:08,680
Speaker 1: football that he can look at and go, you know why,

4545
03:46:09,200 --> 03:46:10,959
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick around so I can be the third

4546
03:46:11,000 --> 03:46:13,280
Speaker 1: best defensive lineman on the team. It's gonna be it's go.

4547
03:46:13,440 --> 03:46:14,600
Speaker 1: So I have to sit here and hope that this

4548
03:46:14,720 --> 03:46:16,520
Speaker 1: guy sucks up double teams over here. So now I

4549
03:46:16,600 --> 03:46:18,440
Speaker 1: get one on one like I don't know, it's gonna

4550
03:46:18,480 --> 03:46:20,520
Speaker 1: be tough. Like like I see like right now, if

4551
03:46:20,520 --> 03:46:22,640
Speaker 1: you if you it's let's say for JJ's career, you

4552
03:46:22,760 --> 03:46:24,800
Speaker 1: fast forward it two years and in two years there's

4553
03:46:24,800 --> 03:46:28,120
Speaker 1: a situation out there like New England right now, where

4554
03:46:28,240 --> 03:46:30,600
Speaker 1: it's Brady, it's Gronk, it's its offense, it's going and

4555
03:46:30,680 --> 03:46:33,440
Speaker 1: they are literally a ja Jampa Bay. You mean you

4556
03:46:33,480 --> 03:46:35,600
Speaker 1: said New England. I'm in Tampa Bay. Yeah, I mean

4557
03:46:36,120 --> 03:46:38,680
Speaker 1: you you put if I'm JJ Watt and they call

4558
03:46:38,760 --> 03:46:41,480
Speaker 1: and go, hey man, we got this roster loaded up, baby, yeah,

4559
03:46:41,600 --> 03:46:44,440
Speaker 1: and we need a JJ Watt to come down here. Hell,

4560
03:46:44,760 --> 03:46:46,840
Speaker 1: we just want you to give us eight regular seasons. Man,

4561
03:46:46,879 --> 03:46:48,560
Speaker 1: We'll rest you the last month of the season, get

4562
03:46:48,600 --> 03:46:50,560
Speaker 1: us in the playoffs, sixteen games. We're just coming on

4563
03:46:50,680 --> 03:46:52,920
Speaker 1: third down. That's it just comes and we just eat.

4564
03:46:53,080 --> 03:46:55,120
Speaker 1: Now when when it comes playoff time, we need you

4565
03:46:55,240 --> 03:46:57,280
Speaker 1: to we need you for four quarters. Be ready for that.

4566
03:46:58,120 --> 03:47:01,600
Speaker 1: To me. If I'm JJ, what that's too much fun

4567
03:47:01,680 --> 03:47:03,760
Speaker 1: to turn down. I mean, I agree with you that

4568
03:47:03,840 --> 03:47:05,880
Speaker 1: JJ's got so much crap going on. I think JJ

4569
03:47:06,000 --> 03:47:08,000
Speaker 1: drops hi, Michael goes, hey, I'm done, but boy, it's

4570
03:47:08,040 --> 03:47:10,000
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's gonna be. It's like Gronk, you know

4571
03:47:10,120 --> 03:47:12,480
Speaker 1: that they called the group back together down in down

4572
03:47:12,560 --> 03:47:14,800
Speaker 1: in Tampa, and he got that call from Brady and

4573
03:47:14,840 --> 03:47:17,280
Speaker 1: it's Bruce arians with all that swag, and it's inside

4574
03:47:17,320 --> 03:47:20,440
Speaker 1: playing inside those receivers man well, and he doesn't even

4575
03:47:20,480 --> 03:47:22,200
Speaker 1: have pressure on him in the tight end room like

4576
03:47:22,920 --> 03:47:26,080
Speaker 1: OJ Howard and Cameron Brady. Like if if Broncos gets

4577
03:47:26,160 --> 03:47:28,520
Speaker 1: four hundred yards this year total, it's like that he'd

4578
03:47:28,520 --> 03:47:32,120
Speaker 1: probably be the third leading receiver in the tight Yeah. Yeah,

4579
03:47:32,160 --> 03:47:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean I just as a former player that kind

4580
03:47:34,959 --> 03:47:38,400
Speaker 1: of scenario. Maybe because I honestly believe that if JJ

4581
03:47:38,560 --> 03:47:40,200
Speaker 1: Watt wants to, if he gets to that point he

4582
03:47:40,280 --> 03:47:42,240
Speaker 1: wants to and he were to say I'm done, I

4583
03:47:42,400 --> 03:47:44,320
Speaker 1: think the top three teams that are right on the

4584
03:47:44,400 --> 03:47:47,120
Speaker 1: cusp that are that are you know, the Baltimore's, the

4585
03:47:47,520 --> 03:47:50,280
Speaker 1: maybe the Tampa that's just that's just out there gathering

4586
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Speaker 1: to go. Man. Yeah, I want to go see what

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Speaker 1: that's all about. Just just to be very clear, we

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Speaker 1: h Yeah. You know, as we say as we sit

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Speaker 1: wins a Super Bowl, we all hope that it's here

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Speaker 1: in Houston. But you know, this Barnwell article lays out

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Speaker 1: a scenario that I just don't think. It's a scenario

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Speaker 1: want to know the true even a J. J. Watt

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Speaker 1: would have been banged up again this year, I think

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Speaker 1: somewhere here or anywhere else. Here's Bill O'Brien's update on

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Speaker 1: JJ Wat. Just to be clear for those who haven't

4605
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Speaker 1: been following as closely, JJ Watt has not practiced so far,

4606
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Speaker 1: and there's been six practices he has not practiced so

4607
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Speaker 1: far in any of them. Other than at the first practice,

4608
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Speaker 1: he did some one on one drills but hasn't done

4609
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Speaker 1: any Eleven on eleven has been working out off to

4610
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Speaker 1: the side since they moved outdoors. He is healthy, he

4611
03:48:52,160 --> 03:48:55,000
Speaker 1: looks great. He's doing a lot of workouts with the trainers.

4612
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Speaker 1: Here's O'Brien's update from earlier this week. He's doing fine.

4613
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Speaker 1: He's doing fine. You know, he's I mean, he's played

4614
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Speaker 1: a lot of football and he knows how to play football.

4615
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Speaker 1: What's important for him and for us is you know

4616
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Speaker 1: that he's in great condition and and uh, you know

4617
03:49:13,000 --> 03:49:15,360
Speaker 1: that he's ready to go on September tenth. So his

4618
03:49:15,640 --> 03:49:20,200
Speaker 1: ramp up is different than than anyone else's. And I

4619
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Speaker 1: could say the same thing about you know, Will Fuller,

4620
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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks and everybody's ramp up is a little bit unique,

4621
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Speaker 1: I think in this year. And I know you guys

4622
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Speaker 1: are really you know, that's really important. Part of your

4623
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Speaker 1: job is to see who's out there and all that.

4624
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Speaker 1: But I just wouldn't read too much into that moving forward,

4625
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Speaker 1: I really wouldn't. Texans had pretty good luck so far

4626
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Speaker 1: here early in training camp with health do Gada for

4627
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Speaker 1: his injury. Notwithstanding there's a few guys that you know

4628
03:49:43,800 --> 03:49:46,160
Speaker 1: clearly are still working out, you know, like Colin Gillaspia

4629
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Speaker 1: has had a sleeve on his knee, but he added

4630
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Speaker 1: off the other day and he was running around. There's

4631
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Speaker 1: been other guys with little nagging injuries here and there, um,

4632
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Speaker 1: But yeah, knock wood, it's it's been good so far.

4633
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Speaker 1: What do you think of the way that O'Brien and

4634
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Speaker 1: Easterby have been handling these guys, Well, I think it

4635
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Speaker 1: the Watson the Fuller, Yeah, I mean, I think it's

4636
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Speaker 1: it's the smart thing to do, right, I mean, to

4637
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Speaker 1: have the patience at this moment in time to to

4638
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Speaker 1: have guys legitimately listen to their bodies. And I mean

4639
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Speaker 1: I I sense I've listened to every piece of audio

4640
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Speaker 1: that Bill O'Brien has out there, and one thing that

4641
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Speaker 1: has surprised me, quite frankly, is is how patient he's

4642
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Speaker 1: been in just the tone of his voice when he

4643
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Speaker 1: talks about Kahlie Wearing, when he talks about Kiki Qt.

4644
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Speaker 1: I mean, these are guys in the past where he

4645
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Speaker 1: would have been sending a message through the media to

4646
03:50:29,880 --> 03:50:31,800
Speaker 1: the whole team and use that guy to do it,

4647
03:50:32,000 --> 03:50:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, and and and right now you can tell

4648
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Speaker 1: there's a different approach to this thing and it's real,

4649
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Speaker 1: or else Bill O'Brien would show his stripes to the

4650
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Speaker 1: media when he when he was frustrated. That's a great point.

4651
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Speaker 1: We have not had a Bill O'Brien sort of you know,

4652
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Speaker 1: kind of like the snarky well, you know, he's got

4653
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Speaker 1: to get out on the practice field kind of thinking, wait,

4654
03:50:52,400 --> 03:50:54,720
Speaker 1: he's kind to get through one practice first member laka

4655
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Speaker 1: who it was Deyant Foreman last year. You know, he

4656
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Speaker 1: needs to get through two reps without getting a trinkle water, right,

4657
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Speaker 1: Like he literally said that about Deonta Foreman, and Foreman

4658
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Speaker 1: wasn't the only one, like Hallie Wearing caught some of

4659
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Speaker 1: that heat last year. Jordan Thomas thanpefully so because he

4660
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Speaker 1: had a beer belly, he caught a little bit of that.

4661
03:51:11,640 --> 03:51:13,960
Speaker 1: He looks good this year, but last year we haven't

4662
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Speaker 1: had one of those yet this year. Nothing house appears

4663
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Speaker 1: to be in order. Yeah, well the house. I think

4664
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Speaker 1: the house is probably a year further in order. Um,

4665
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Speaker 1: I still think there's probably a few guys in. There's

4666
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Speaker 1: no way that at an NFL locker room, he's got

4667
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Speaker 1: eighty guys in that locker room and all eighty of

4668
03:51:28,240 --> 03:51:30,760
Speaker 1: them are are on board. But um, he probably he's

4669
03:51:30,760 --> 03:51:32,600
Speaker 1: got more on board in that locker room than most

4670
03:51:32,640 --> 03:51:36,440
Speaker 1: teams out there across the NFL. But but Sean, there's

4671
03:51:36,480 --> 03:51:38,520
Speaker 1: no doubt that. I think what we see from Bill

4672
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Speaker 1: O'Brien is, um, just a coach that understands the COVID

4673
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Speaker 1: nineteen um impact on the season and the fact that

4674
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Speaker 1: there he's trying to juggle literally we would start, Sean,

4675
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Speaker 1: we would start our offseason with the strength coach and

4676
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Speaker 1: running and lifting and you know, it's it's a four

4677
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Speaker 1: day a week back then maybe five day a week

4678
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Speaker 1: as a quarterback with rowing and if you ever had

4679
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Speaker 1: a lam string strain or you are a little bit

4680
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Speaker 1: more sore than you should, but you just tell the

4681
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Speaker 1: strength coach and maybe he lightens it up or maybe

4682
03:52:05,920 --> 03:52:08,160
Speaker 1: you got go get treatment that day, is damn sure

4683
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Speaker 1: the veterans. And so he's trying to juggle that mentality

4684
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Speaker 1: with hey, we got a game in less than three weeks.

4685
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Speaker 1: And I think Bill obra, I think that's what you

4686
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Speaker 1: hear from Bill O'Brien at the at the mic right

4687
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Speaker 1: now and in post practice interviews is a guy that's

4688
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Speaker 1: that's really having to juggle those two situations, and he's

4689
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Speaker 1: erring on the side of being the strength coach and going, hey,

4690
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Speaker 1: we got to pump the brakes. Even if guys aren't

4691
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Speaker 1: available and aren't one hundred percent prepared week one, We've

4692
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Speaker 1: got to make sure that they stay healthy. It's Texans

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Speaker 1: Training Camp Special. It's presented by Exfinity. He's Clint Sterner.

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Speaker 1: I'm Sean Pendergasser in the midst of thirty two consecutive

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Speaker 1: we got about a minute, so I'll be back out

4697
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Speaker 1: there tomorrow. Is there anything in particular that you would

4698
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Speaker 1: like me to watch four while I'm out there. You

4699
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4700
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Speaker 1: of the team, kind of Deshaun Watson rubbing off on

4701
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Speaker 1: the teammates. Yeah, it's very evident there. Yeah, to Sean,

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Speaker 1: is the dude sprinting from drill to drill. There are

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Speaker 1: more guys running from drill to drill in there. Yeah,

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4706
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Speaker 1: Gary on Connelly's one guy that I want to get

4708
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Speaker 1: I'd like to see where he sits. I think he's

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Speaker 1: Lonnie Johnson. I'm sticking to my guns. I think Lonnie

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