1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is Matt Williamson, 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt, 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: it is time for the Fantasy Football focus here and 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: we'll take a look here at our DFS lineup. We 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: still have one guy out tonight. Okay, so right now 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: we have one oh eight point eight two points. The 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: key thing this week is if he didn't have somebody 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: in the Falcons Houston game. 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: Scores were kind of suppressed because of that. 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of bad quarterbacking. Yeah. And weird 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 3: fantasy week. 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: For sure, really weird fantasy bye. I started my own 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: fantasy lineup. I ended up with one hundred and eighty one. 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you killed it with that one points. 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: I finished second my contest because I had Tank Dell 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: on the lineup. I you know, obviously the Colts defense 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: was k was a killer. So looking at our lineup tonight, 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: so we had Joe Burrow. He was started in forty 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: seven point four percent of the league. 24 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: Wow, you look great, and how many points. 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: He end up with twenty five point three two. 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, ran a little bit throwing really well. Yeah, so 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: even with Chase banged up a little bit in that game, 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 3: it was Chalky though, that was the that's probably yeah. 29 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had amazing We had Jonathan Taylor in the lineup. 30 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: He was at twenty five point four percent ownership, seventeen 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: point nine points. Okay's taken over that, Yeah, rightfully, So 32 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: this is the one that's cure. We had Remondre Stevenson 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: in the lineup. He had twenty two point nine points, 34 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: eleven point four percent ownership, So that should help us overall. 35 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: Why aren't they giving him the ball more? Why is 36 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: why is he not. 37 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: By far their best player on offense? 38 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: They're messing around with Ezekiel Elliott. 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: I know, and he is a good receiver. I think 40 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: he's a really good player. I think he's one of 41 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: the few people that shouldn't be blamed for their offense 42 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: being so bad. I don't quite get it. 43 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: I don't get it at all. No, so we still 44 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: have Garrett Wilson left to play tonight. 45 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: He puts up no matter what. Yeah, he's that good. Uh. 46 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: We had Jamar Chase in the game unfortunately instead of 47 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: t Higgins came down really four for forty one. Yeah, 48 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: that was a tough one, but he was started in 49 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: fifty nine point six percent of league, So that was 50 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 2: the hook went for that stack and so doesn't hurt 51 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: us all that badly. We had Brandon Cooks in the lineup. 52 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: He was going on there either. 53 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: He barely they barely used him. 54 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: It's all Ferguson and Lamb and like Paulard's underachieving gallup Cooks. 55 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: I mean, Lamb's great, but you gotta get the ball 56 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: more than two people. 57 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just didn't get that one. He had one 58 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: point seven points. He was just out the end right, 59 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: eight point eight percent ownership. Michael Mayer at tight end. 60 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: That didn't really work out either. Two catches for eleven yards. 61 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: They didn't throw the football. 62 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: He was an inch away from scoring too, Yeah, which 63 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: that would have helped. It would have helped. Yeah. 64 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: With Josh Jacobs in a lineup though, Yeah, that worked 65 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: out well. He was owned in thirty eighth. 66 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 3: That part just handed to him over and over against Yeah, team. 67 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: Thirty five point one percent ownership. We got twenty one 68 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: point eight points out of him. We had the Patriots 69 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: defense at twenty nine hundred. That was using twenty five 70 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: point four percent. 71 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: And it's not so great. 72 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, eight points and points road right, So right now 73 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: we have one hundred and eight point eighty two points 74 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: out of our lineup. We probably yeah, we probably need 75 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: about I want to say, I'm going to say fifteen 76 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: points out of Wilson tonight to finish in the money possible. 77 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: So we got a chance. 78 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: He gets targets no matter what, and he gets. 79 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: Oh he's I heard today, he's get like sixty percent 80 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: of their air yards. 81 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard for him. It's like all him, right. 82 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, anything that they throw beyond the line of scrimmage 83 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: goes to Wilson. 84 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: So the Jets aren't as good as I don't think 85 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 3: they're a great team. I don't think they're a playoff team. 86 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: They got dealt a really rough hand with the Rogers thing. 87 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: But they get the ball in their two best players hands. 88 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: I mean give them credit. They funnel everything through that 89 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: Paul and Wilson get the ball. 90 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: The only thing that gives him a chance to keep 91 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: them close. And well, the Chargers pass defense isn't great. 92 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: It's not great. No, I guys could do okay. 93 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: Their run defense, it was surprisingly they give up like 94 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: three point six yards of carry chargers. 95 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been bad lately, I mean previous years. I 96 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: didn't realize it got that much better. 97 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: So we get fifteen twelve to fifteen points, we should 98 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: be in the money. 99 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: So and probably a lot of you are too. 100 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 2: I did notice there were I think four or five 101 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: people in that particular contest, which wasn't a big one. 102 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 2: There was only like two hundred entries in the contest, 103 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: and their names now I'm sorry, one hundred and fifty 104 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: entries in the contests, and they all had the same 105 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: exact score as us. I looked at him. 106 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: They were in their names. 107 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: So you're hoping for Garrett Wilson to do well. 108 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: You have plenty of you listening. Then their names are 109 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: ghost Steelers or I Love the Drive, Mattindale rule. 110 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 2: Looking at this week's Fantasy leaders, well, obviously CJ. Straub 111 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: with nuts four to seventy and five touchdowns. If you 112 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: had him in your lineup, you were in great shape. 113 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 114 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: Probably not a lot of people did though. 115 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: That It was about It's funny, we've been doing this 116 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: a long time. I was about to say I bet 117 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: he's on a lot of benches. But there was a 118 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: lot of us that would have killed for Stroud Sunday morning. Oh, 119 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 3: I mean because some of the quarterback stuff was so bad. 120 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: I had just start Jordan Love. 121 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I was thrilled that Deshaun Watson got 122 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: the gnawd. 123 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: And the guy was playing against had Lamar Jackson and 124 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: Jordan Love finished with more points. 125 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but no, I mean there was some stretches, 126 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: like I started picking in one league, you know, just 127 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: to get a guy I didn't know if it was 128 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: gonna play. I mean, sounds like it might get better though, 129 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 3: sounds like Kyler's gonna play this upcoming week. Stafford should 130 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: be back, Fields might be back soon. So there are 131 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: some dudes that might make that better. Well. 132 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: The interesting thing here is the three guys that we 133 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: talked about that we were kind of I know you 134 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: were highest Stroud, we centered on, We centered on for 135 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: the DFS lineup. Stroud four to seventy and five. Dak 136 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: Prescott was number two with three seventy four and three. 137 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow was third of three forty eight and two. 138 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: We had the not we had the right guys. 139 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: And Burrow wasn't a bad call, obviously, but no, we 140 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: were close to having the home run. 141 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: Oh we would have. 142 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, we would hit the right we were. We were 143 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 3: certainly shopping down the road. 144 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: We were in the right right ballpark there. 145 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: Uh. 146 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 2: Then you had Sam Howe with three twenty five, one touchdown, 147 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: one interception. 148 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: Is he a top twelve guy? 149 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: I can't go there. 150 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: I think I can. I mean, I don't know. Once 151 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: Kyler Field, Stafford, all these dudes come back, he's better 152 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: for fantasy in the real world, is my point? Right? 153 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: He runs, there's a weapon that's definitely, definitely the case. 154 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: I just don't know that the touchdowns are going to 155 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: be there every week, like they're going to be behind 156 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: a lot. 157 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, I like his weapons and I like his guts. 158 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: But he's the next one that you start and he 159 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: gets injured in the first quarter h Taylor. 160 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: Heineke had to sixty eight in a touchdown. 161 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 3: A long one to John Who, which wasn't necessarily a 162 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: great quarterback play, but that helped the stats a lot. 163 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield on the other end of that Houston game 164 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: two sixty five and two touchdowns. 165 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: He's kind of usable. Yeah, he's got Evans having a 166 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: good year. 167 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: Uh you had Will Levis with two sixty two no touchdowns, right, 168 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: Josh Allen two fifty eight in a touchdown and he's running, 169 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: he's running like crazy. 170 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 171 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: Then you had Jordan love with two twenty eight in 172 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: a touchdown. 173 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: Good enough, good enough? 174 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: Tyson badgin't two twenty two touchdowns, three interceptions, two sacks, 175 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: any fumble. 176 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, they turn them all over five times. 177 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's that's a problem. 178 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: That's problem. 179 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not sticking in there looking at some of 180 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: the other quarterbacks that uh well, if you started him. 181 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: Uh so you had Uho Gino Smith is just not good. 182 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: One fifty seven, one touchdown or no touchdown. He's an interception, 183 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: got sacked four times. If he's pressured, it's a problem. 184 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: It's problematically. Yeah, Gardner Minshew one twenty seven and a touchdown, 185 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: ran the. 186 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: Ball well yuck. But like Hurts and Mahomes didn't have 187 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: huge games, Lamar didn't have a great game. No. 188 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: I mean the guys at the bottom are the guys 189 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: you'd expected them. But you know, Hurts was two o 190 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: seven and two touchdowns. Again, they won the game. 191 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: They won the game, and he'll always get the right, He'll. 192 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: Always get the what are they calling it now, the Philly. 193 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: Oh, the touch push, but the Philly special. 194 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: Not Philly, it's the Philly special. 195 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: It's the something of brotherly love, I think. 196 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, the shove of brother brother Lee shoves, burly shove. 197 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: That's bad. 198 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: I like it better than touch push. Yeah for Philly 199 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: brotherly shove. 200 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 201 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: Uh, two was not great. One ninety three in a touchdown. Yeah, 202 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: Mahomes was not great. 203 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: No, any won. 204 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 2: And two touchdowns? Like it was a quarterbacks tough this year. 205 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: Quarterbacks really tough this year. They're dropping like flies too. 206 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: And what's awful is when they get hurt mid game, right, 207 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: that just kills you. If your tight end gets hurt 208 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: mid game, you could still win your game, but you 209 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: can't with your quarterback. 210 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: Uh. 211 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: Looking at the rushing leaders. One player over one hundred 212 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: rushing yards this week, well, and he played thirteen snaps. 213 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: Who was it, Keaton Mitchell? 214 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: Oh? 215 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, nine carries, one hundred and thirty eight yards, one touchdown. 216 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: He had a sixty yard run. He played thirteen snaps. 217 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: So it's he's gonna be the hot waiver wire. 218 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: Oh, without a doubt. 219 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: And I understand it because running backs are important, but 220 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 3: it was. He did some good things early, but almost 221 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 3: the whole game was garbage time. Yeah, I mean it 222 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: was never close. He's tiny, folks, but he's very, very fast. 223 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: He's on a good offense. I think you're gonna hear 224 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 3: is he the next to Chan? 225 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 2: Yeah? 226 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: I can't go play thirty. 227 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: Let me just say thirteen snaps. 228 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: Thirteen snaps, right, and Gus is gonna is going nowhere. 229 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: Gus is going nowhere. Justice Hill played the most snaps 230 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: of their running backs. 231 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: That adds up too. 232 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, he is. He's number three. They're gonna throw him 233 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: in there every once in. 234 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: A while, but he's gonna have some stinker. 235 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: He's gonna be like Rashid Shaheed. He's a raid Shaheeda running. 236 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: Backs Sean Jackson Yeah again, you know right, you're right. 237 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: So don't run? I mean I would you fab No, No, 238 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: I get it. Everybody's looking for run back right now. 239 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: But but he's not even an injury away from being 240 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: the guy. 241 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 2: Like he can't be the guy. No, you got Josh 242 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: Jacobs had twenty six for ninety eight and two touchdowns. 243 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: You'll take that other Yeah, Yeah, didn't catch any passes though. 244 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: That might be an Aidan O'Connell thing where it's like, okay, 245 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: he's just not going to throw the ball to the backs. 246 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: Who knows. I was thinking might be a new coaching 247 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: staff that. 248 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: Could be too. Yeah, who knows. Uh, sixteen for ninety. 249 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 3: Touches aren't gonna be a problem. No, no, sporting casting. 250 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: He still catches the football. Yeah, that's all they got. 251 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: They didn't give him the ball, so he's usable. Oh, 252 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: he's usable. Yeah. 253 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: Jaylen Warren actually had the fourth most rushing yards last week. 254 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: That's up eleven eighty. 255 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 3: It's a low week for rushing, but you get a 256 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: good game. 257 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 2: Ramandre Stevenson. We mentioned this when we were talking. 258 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 3: About Warren a flex. Yeah, he's not an RB. 259 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: Two, no's he's a flex play. Ramondre Stevenson had eighty 260 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: seven yards on nine carries. 261 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 262 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: What always, that's coaching. 263 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 3: That's my practice, right. He should be an RB two 264 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: every week, maybe a high end RB two. 265 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: Like he's have double those touches every week. 266 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, every week. All they got. 267 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 2: They lost that game twenty to seventeen. It's not like 268 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: they lost twenty eight to three. They lost twenty to seventeen. 269 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: The raven situation where it's like I will just set 270 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: you down. I mean like he's they need him in 271 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: a close game. He's the only good guy. And I 272 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 3: don't get that at all. 273 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Mostard had twelve for eighty five in a touchdown. 274 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: Most of that came into fourth quarter. I mean he 275 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: didn't have anything. 276 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: He comes back to earth a little Biteah, sort of predictably. 277 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: Deontay Foreman twenty for eighty three. 278 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: I don't know that Roshawn Johnson's ever. 279 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: Gonna be Roughshawn Johnson. 280 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: I think that's droppable. 281 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. The question is what do they do when Herbert 282 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: comes back. 283 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, because that's got to be soon. 284 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: It's well, you think, are they going to rush him back? 285 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: First of all? 286 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: And then Field goes back to Foreman's playing well? Foreman's 287 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: playing well. Yeah. I don't think their line's terrible. 288 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: I mean he did that against New Orleans. 289 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, But does Fields hurt him? 290 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: I don't know that he does, because he's the powerful 291 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: to be better. Yeah, I mean spreads things out a 292 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: little bit. They might run the ball more. I don't know. 293 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: They may run for two hundred fifty yards a game. Yeah, 294 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: I saw at the end of last year. He opened 295 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: things up for him. Derreck Henry seventeen for seventy five. 296 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones you mentioned, twenty for seventy three all around 297 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: game a touchdown. His long run was nine yards, so 298 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: but his usage was way up. 299 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Rashad White twenty for seventy three and two touchdowns. 300 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: I owned him nowhere, but he's okay. He catches the 301 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 3: ball lot, he's a volume guy. Yeah. Yeah, I don't 302 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: think he's a great player. 303 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: Tyson Badger had eight for seventy Maybe it's just that 304 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: offense could be just take off and run. 305 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's field. 306 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: Nause Harris sixteen for sixty nine in the touchdowns. I 307 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: think he's starting. 308 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: To Yeah, RB two for fantasy. 309 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely started him this week. 310 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: I think this is a good week for him too. 311 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. Dobbs had seven for sixty six in a touchdown. 312 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: Isaiah Pacheco sixteen for sixty six. That's just kind of 313 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: what he does every week. 314 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a little underwhelming lately too. 315 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: Brian Robinson eighteen for sixty three in a touchdown. Point 316 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: five per carry. 317 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: They scored. 318 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 2: Uh the Chupa Hubba Hubbard. Yeah, Hubba Chewba Hubbard. It 319 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: took a little detour, it did. Yeah, they ended up 320 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: using them both. They named Hubbard the starter on Friday 321 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: or Saturday. 322 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: It made sound like he was going to be the guy. Yeah, 323 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: and then Sanders got a lot of touches, and then. 324 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: Sanders ended up They e didn't have the same number 325 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: of touches, but he got the catches and. 326 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: They also are getting blown out. Yeah, so maybe they 327 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: saved Hubbard a little bit. I don't know, I don't know. 328 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: I mean, sixteen for fifty eight. He was running okay, okay, yeah, 329 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: you know, but they just didn't do it. 330 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: It's a bad offense. 331 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: B Jean Robinson eleven for fifty one. 332 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 3: That's so disappointing. 333 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: You know who else had eleven carries on Sunday. Taysom 334 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: Hill had eleven for fifty two. Taysom Hill had the 335 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: same number of carries as b Jeon Robbins. 336 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 3: Is he a top five tight end if. 337 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: He's going to get eleven carries every week? Yeah? 338 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean because he. 339 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: Gets the goal line carries too. He had a goal 340 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: line carry. He threw a touchdown pass, he caught it 341 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: touchdown pass. Yes, I mean they're Taysom Hill is a 342 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: real thing. Now we say that, and if you play him, 343 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: pick him up and play him this week nothing, that's 344 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: the problem. 345 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: But that's a tight end thing too. Kelsey did nothing 346 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: this week. I mean, oh Kelsey was yeah. I mean 347 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 3: that's not gonna They were not going to let Kelsey 348 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: beat them. No, I mean there are going to be 349 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: tight ends that have a down day. Looking at the 350 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: Hills a starter. 351 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: The receivers this week, Matt only seven one hundred yard receivers. 352 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: This tells you what kind of fantasy weekness was. And 353 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: three of them we're on the same team. 354 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: Three of them on the same team. 355 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: Okay, three Houston receivers at one hundred yards receiving and 356 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: none of them were named Nico Collins. 357 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: And he did his share too. He was fine, Yeah, like, 358 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: don't worry about it. He's still there one in my opinion, 359 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 3: But it's a good group of receivers to del Collins 360 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: are legit. 361 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: Ceede Lamb had eleven for one ninety one. 362 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: And you're you gotta be a little jack. He didn't score, yeah, 363 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: but he was killing him. 364 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: Noah Brown six for one fifty th three in a touchdown. 365 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: He got free a couple times. 366 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, uh, he'll be a hot pick up this week. 367 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: He will, And I don't know that it would be 368 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: for me. I mean, they're not going to throw it 369 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: for them. 370 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: They're not going to do that every week. Amari Cooper 371 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: five for one thirty, nine in a touchdown, he's solid. Yeah. 372 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: Dalton Schultz ten for one thirty in a touchdown. 373 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: Good guy to trade I think right now. But I 374 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: mean he's definitely in the top ten tight ends. 375 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:24,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 376 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: Uh. Tank Dell like Certain Schultz or Taysom Hill Schultz. 377 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: Do you think schultzels is really appealing. 378 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: The last the last like five weeks, consistent he's had. 379 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: He's been in double digits all five weeks, I think, yeah, 380 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: in like fifteen, not just barely getting there, he's been. 381 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: I think Hill's pretty tasty though, too. But I was 382 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: wrong on Shultz. I was really down on him. 383 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: Tank Dell had six for one to fourteen and two touchdowns. 384 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good. 385 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: You had t Higgins at eight for one ten. 386 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: He looks healthy again and picked up the Chase slack 387 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: and he played very well. 388 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: The final one hundred yard receiver was another tight end, 389 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: John new Smith five for one hundred and a touchdown. 390 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: I think he had like a seventy yarder for you 391 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: Pits owners. That's just that's the Pits. 392 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: It's and john who actually is a guy I think 393 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: is a good player. I just don't understand why they 394 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: don't feature Pits and especially Dejon More. It just makes 395 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: so a little crazy. It's so crazy. 396 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: Jake Ferguson just missed at seven for seven for ninety 397 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: one in a touchdown. 398 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: He's still every week starter too. 399 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, Deontay Johnson seven for ninety in a touchdown, 400 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: didn't get Yeah, he was ninth in the league this 401 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: week in yardage. Mike Evans four for eighty seven but 402 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: didn't score. 403 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: He came this close. 404 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, that's what you have Mike Evans there 405 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: for Stefan Diggs six for a eighty six in a touchdown. 406 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: That's kind of his floor and you know basically what 407 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: he does. 408 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: Darnel Mooney had five for eighty two. Is he backing 409 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: good graces? 410 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't have to study that one. 411 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: I didn't realize he was that he must have got 412 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: free on one of them. He had a thirty eight 413 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 3: yarder oh, well, he must have had a couple of 414 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: long ones. 415 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: Dalton Kin kid had ten for eighty one. 416 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: I'm a believer there. He's an every week starter, maybe 417 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: even a top five tight. 418 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: End Mark Andrews nine for eighty. 419 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: He's definitely tight end two to me. 420 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Pepper quarterback Pepper Ye, Hawkinson's not. I don't know 421 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 2: if he's usable at this point. Uh. He had Terry 422 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: McLaurin at five for seventy three, Cad Aughton No. Six 423 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: for seventy and two touchdowns. So we were on that. 424 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: We were on board with Kate Aughton last year. 425 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. So my son has a pretty good team and 426 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: we sit there every Sunday and watch game. He started 427 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: four and oh and now he's four and five and 428 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 3: he played against Kate Aughton. He's caught his second touchdown. 429 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: I thought something was gonna go through a window. It's 430 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 3: like Kate fn and I'm like, just bad luck, dude. 431 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: It happens. Now we say Hawkinson's eh. He had seven 432 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: for sixty nine in that game. 433 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: He looks as good as ever. I mean, I think 434 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 3: Dobbs helps him, he doesn't. 435 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: It's always under ten yards per catch. 436 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it is for the season. Yeah still yeah, Yeah. 437 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: John Dowson did it again, four for sixty nine Ers score. 438 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: I think he's. 439 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: Kind of a flex slash wide receiver. Three. 440 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: I hope he gets lucky with a big play. 441 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 2: Kyle Phillips said, four for sixty eight against the Steelers. A. J. 442 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: Brown is the slow week? Is you finally saw his 443 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: streak end seven for sixty six in a touchdown. 444 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: It's kind of his score. Yeah, right then whining for you. 445 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: AJ Brown owners Michael Pittman at eight for sixty four. 446 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: He's pretty consistent too. 447 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets targeted a lot downs. 448 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 3: Didn't last he started and then quickly Yeah. 449 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's scared me about that one. Jackson Smith and 450 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 2: Jake bud six for sixty three in that game against Baltimore, 451 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: he was their best. He was working against Arthur Mullett 452 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 2: a lot, Yeah, and he was eating him alive and 453 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 2: they just couldn't get him the football. 454 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 3: The Metcalf and Lockett were disappointing, and Gino's disappointing. 455 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you attacked the Ravens, you get to 456 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: attack Arthur. 457 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 3: Malett, Yes, yes, yes, yes, he had a good. 458 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 2: Matchup Tyreek Hill eight for sixty two for. 459 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: Him, that's terrible, but he stillk its ball eight times. 460 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 2: Uh, Hopkins had four for sixty in the game. Means 461 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 2: the Steelers ka Darryl Hies had three for sixty. 462 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: I'm not involved. 463 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Uh, Darius Slayton had four for 464 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: fifty nine. 465 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: And those guys are okay, but not with the veto. 466 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: This is one guy I wanted to talk about her. 467 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: Khalil Shakir had four for fifty seven. This is a 468 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: couple of weeks in a row now where he's been 469 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 2: used a little bit more. 470 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Bills have figured it out that 471 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: they're gonna they're gonna have a running back. They're gonna 472 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: have Gabe Davis run deep routes. Digs is gonna be Diggs. 473 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: Kencaid's really the two now, Yeah, and Shakier's the full 474 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 3: time slot finally, which makes him relevant. 475 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 476 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: I mean, so they're four are out there a lot. 477 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: I think Gabe Davis is you go on, you go along. 478 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 3: I think he caught zero this year. Yeah, I think 479 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 3: he he's again, he's he's he's Boomer. Bob DeShawn Jackson 480 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: a very good player really, Yeah, I mean, just does 481 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: one thing. He's not great at it. 482 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: No, No, on the defensive side of things, Man, if 483 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 2: you were if if you started gold the Colts defense, 484 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: you were golden. The Browns defense was golden. 485 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: Like there are terrible quarterbacks. 486 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: There are because all these bad quarterbacks playing. And we'll 487 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: talk more about this later in the week here when 488 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: we do our streaming defense. Look, you want to start 489 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: teams against the Giants defenses against the Giants, you want 490 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: to I don't know. 491 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 3: They don't walk anybody, they don't have a quarterback. 492 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean you were if you if you 493 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: played that, you know, this is one of the ones. 494 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 2: We talked about. The Raiders defense, which isn't good, but 495 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. It didn't matter against that. 496 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 3: No, Arizona is bad. I mean there's a handful that 497 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 3: you just start against them, I think, no matter what. Yeah, 498 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: even if it's a bad defense. 499 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 2: The same thing with Carolina, Just Carolina's start your defense. 500 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 3: They're gonna score a lot of points. 501 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: The Patriots fire them up. 502 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not gonna score a lot of points. Yeah, 503 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 3: I mean there's at least five offenses. 504 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: Like I picked up the Colts defense in our league 505 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 2: last week. They're playing the Patriots this week. 506 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna ride. 507 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: There's no reason to get rid of them. 508 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 3: Are there any defenses that are so bad that you 509 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 3: wouldn't play them against the Giants? Hmm? I don't think 510 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 3: that charge. 511 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 2: The Chargers defense is rough. I don't know if I 512 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 2: want to have to play them. 513 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: I play them against the Giants. Yeah, I mean, I 514 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: think they'll. 515 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: Be They'll get sacks. Yeah, they'll get sacks. 516 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 3: Like if Arizona played the Giants. 517 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: I'm not starting Arizona's defense. 518 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 3: I'm known. Okay, they're that bad. Okay, I'm with that. 519 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: I'm with you there the boy. Those offenses are. 520 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: So brutals, brutal. I think the Steelers defense will be 521 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 2: a great. 522 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, they may be an every week starter. At this point. 523 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: I think they're h I mean the way consistently getting 524 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: the turn yash like. 525 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm starting them against the Bengals, 526 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: but I mean I think I am Brown's cold Cardinals. 527 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so, Yeah, yeah, I think so. Anyway, 528 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna get to another break. He is Matt Williamson. 529 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to the drive. You're 530 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation. Radio. That'll do it for the Fantasy 531 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,239 Speaker 2: football focus. We'll be back with more right after this. 532 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with d and Matt Williamson on your 533 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven home of the Black and Gold 534 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. 535 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: Steeler Friends, you can check out yins Chet's regular season 536 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 2: challenge each week, answer Steelers trivia and make game day 537 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: picks for a chance to win signed helmets, jerseys, football's, 538 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: or even a trip to the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. 539 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: Log in to the Steelers mobile app now and play 540 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: for a chance at this week's prize, which is a 541 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 2: George Pickens signed football and today's question, what's it? 542 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 3: I don't want to I get it wrong every time? 543 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: Well, here it is John Henry Johnson, Okay, or Rashad 544 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: Mendenhall more rushing yards during their career as a Steeler. 545 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 3: Johnson, He's a Hall of Famer. Some times were different 546 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 3: back then, but I'm going Johnson he's a Hall of Famer. 547 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I think he's a Hall of Famer. Yes, yeah, 548 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: John Henry Johnson is in the Hall of Fame. 549 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going Johny feel good about that one? 550 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: Feeling good about that one? 551 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? Those are more am up my Alley, who had 552 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: the best game ever against the Browns, lifetime achieving stuff. 553 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: I'll be all right on Okay, uh, Matt, it's mid 554 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: season point, it is. And so Bill Barnwell and ESPN 555 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: is announced his he got his picks here. 556 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: For the major awards. Major awards. 557 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so I thought we'd take let's do that. 558 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: I think there's a couple that are easy. 559 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: But first up here on his list is Coach of 560 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: the Year. 561 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: I have given these no thought. 562 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 2: Number three he has Nick Sirianni pretty strong. He's got 563 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: the best record in the league and they're. 564 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 3: Still figuring things out, and he's figured out that. 565 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: Number two is Dan Campbell strong. We're kind of expected 566 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 2: to be this. 567 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 3: His blemish is going to be who I'd vote for, Okay. 568 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: Number one is Mike Tomlin. 569 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 3: Wow, I was gonna vote for Harbaugh. That's pretty impressive, Okay, 570 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: I mean I thought Tomlin should be in the top three. Ish, 571 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 3: I was gonna go with Harbaugh. Here's what he has 572 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: to say. 573 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: If you've been reading this column for a few years now, 574 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 2: you know me. Yeah, he doesn't like anything that the 575 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: Steelers do. I can tell you that very rarely. 576 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean he's an analytics guy and he 577 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: sees the game a little differently. 578 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 2: I like rationality. I want to understand what's helping teams 579 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: win or causing them to lose. I want there to 580 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: be clean reasons things are occurring. Football is complicated, but 581 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: if you look hard enough, you can usually find reasons 582 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: under the hood to explain things. 583 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: We do that. 584 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there's the Steelers, whose quarterback ranks twenty 585 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: ninth in the league, and QBR whose lead running back 586 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 2: is averaging three point eight yards per carry, whose defense 587 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: is good, of course, but his twelfth in points a 588 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: lot per game. The turnover differential matters. The Steelers are 589 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 2: plus eight through eight games, but even that doesn't fully 590 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: explained how they were over five hundred while being outscored 591 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: thirty points per game and outgained in every single game. 592 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 3: We've already talked about that one. 593 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 2: At this point, Tomlin feels inevitable as a coach who 594 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: will bend the football universe to his whims and coach 595 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: a successful season out of a flawed football team. The 596 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 2: Steelers aren't like the old These Steelers aren't like the 597 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: old ones. They've gone from being a team full of 598 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: drafted and developed talent to one of the teams with 599 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: the least homegrown talent in football. But we still see 600 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: some of those draftees shine every year. First round draft 601 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 2: pick Broderick Jones has been in and out of the lineup. 602 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 2: That's not really true. He wasn't in the lineup in 603 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: the first part of the season. He's only played two 604 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: of the last three games. But second round defenders Joey 605 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: Porter Junior and Keonu but Benton looked like stars. Pittsburgh 606 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: has managed to overcome going without Deontay Johnson, make a 607 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick and Cameron Heyward for stretches. I don't think that 608 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: gets talked about. It important, and not just stretches. They 609 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: were missing Deante Johnson and Cam Hayward for a big 610 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 2: stretch on They were both on IR for a big 611 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: stretch of the season. 612 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big deal. 613 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: Tomlin has never one Coach of the Year and hasn't 614 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 2: even appeared in the top five in voting at any 615 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 2: point during his career, which seems which seems bizarre. Right, 616 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: these awards shouldn't substantiate or substitute as a lifetime achievement 617 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: awards or makeup calls from mistakes from years past. But 618 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: I don't see many people doing more with less than 619 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 2: what he's doing with this roster. Well, first of all, 620 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: I don't know that he's doing more with I think 621 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: the roster overall is good. 622 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a bad roster, right, overcome in 623 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 3: some circumstances. 624 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 2: They've overcome some stuff. Again, you take you take your 625 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: top wide receiver and you're all pro defensive lineman off 626 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: of most teams and they fold. 627 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 3: For a month. Yeah, right, and that's half the season. 628 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 2: And they fold and that didn't happen. Then you take 629 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 2: makea Fitzpatrick out of the equation you get, you get 630 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: Hayward back, and you lose. 631 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: Makea Fitzpatrick's like a right, just when I thought we're 632 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: gonna se everything together, right, yeah, like no offense to 633 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 3: Cole Holcombe, but everybody those kind of yes. But three 634 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: or you know, it's a big big deal. 635 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: If you were making a list of the top six 636 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: or seven players that you wouldn't want to have to 637 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: play games without, those three would be on that list. 638 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 3: The top four. 639 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: They might be in the top four. I am amazed, 640 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 2: And I didn't think about this the twenty nineteen season, 641 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: how Mike Tomlin didn't get wasn't in. 642 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 3: I almost just flat out interrupted you as I often do, 643 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: and just was like and the duck gear like you know, 644 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: like you couldn't he was playing with non quarterback, I 645 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: mean with a non NFL quarterback. 646 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, they went three and three with Duck Hodges at quarterback. 647 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 3: Then better winning record. 648 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: Yet again, let's take a Tyson Badgin't basically and putting 649 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: him at quarterback and winning games. The Bears have played 650 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: that way. They're not winning though, right Maybe worse offensive 651 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: rookie of the year it's Stroud. Number three is Bejeon Robinson. 652 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. 653 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 2: I mean he's getting nine touches in a game. 654 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: Sorry, I need usage. There's got to be somebody else 655 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: out there, as I think off the top of my head, 656 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: is who's the best rookie receiver? It's not Addison, it's 657 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: not Smith and Jig, but Pooka, Pookah maybe he's on 658 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 3: the list. 659 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, pok Pooka would be high on the list. 660 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's coming back to Earth unfortunately, but. 661 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 2: I think Devin and Chan could still win it. Yeah, 662 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: based on what he did and you know in those 663 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 2: three games were I mean, he was unbelievable in those three. 664 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: Year But if you were giving the award out today today, 665 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 3: I understand Kincaid. Kincaid, Uh coming around strong, tank Del's tank. 666 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 3: Del's had some big games. The porter has been good. 667 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: They never win. The number two on the list is 668 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: Pooka Nikua. Yeah, it's coming back to earth a little 669 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: bit here the. 670 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: Last few weeks. 671 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: Uh. And then number one is c. J. Stroud. 672 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: Sure that's an easy one. 673 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, defensive Rookie of the year. 674 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 675 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: He's got Byron Young number three. 676 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: This is not a very good class. 677 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: I Joey Ford Junior can end up winning this thing. 678 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, he couldn't give it to him now, not right now. 679 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 3: But if he has a strong second half like this, 680 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: he's got a real shot. 681 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 682 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's not a great sack guy that 683 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: I off the top of my head. I mean, Willie 684 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: Anderson's fine, but he's not terrible. 685 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: Young is the one who's probably he's probably on the 686 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: list because he's leading rookies and sacks. 687 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: I would think he's been good. 688 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been fine. Uh. Jalen Carter at number two, 689 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: he would. 690 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 3: Be my pick. Maybe I'm forgetting somebody at one, but 691 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: carterspe he's been really good. The top two are strong. Yeah, 692 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: the top are strong. 693 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: Although I did see Witherspoon kind of you run over 694 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: yesterday by something. I'm trying to think they were. I'm 695 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: listening to Romo and do that game yesterday. Everything was 696 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: the greatest thing that he's ever seen. It was unbelievable. 697 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 3: He's really changed as and he's gotten so bad. Like 698 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 3: my favorite thing was to'd be like, oh, this is 699 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 3: a slant to him, you know, yeah, I think he's 700 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 3: not allowed to do that now or someone gave him 701 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 3: a hard time, But I wanted his knowledge, not as 702 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: this is the best thing ever and these guys are 703 00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: the greatest. 704 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: And like he's talking about the Ravens, He's like, well, 705 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: the Ravens have to have Super Bowl aspirations, No kidding, Tony, Yeah, 706 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: everybody has super Bowl aspirations. 707 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: But he was doing a lot of things like no 708 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: one can come in here and beat this team. 709 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how. I don't know you can 710 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 2: stop this Ravens offense. I'm like, they scored ten points 711 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: a few weeks ago against the Steelers. You can stop it. 712 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's good. 713 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: But it looks great against the NFC teams. It's not 714 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: like it's you know, two weeks ago against Arizona, it 715 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 2: wasn't the best offense on the on the planet either, like, 716 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: and it's so good. It's a good it's a good offense. 717 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: They're a good football team. 718 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 3: I don't think they're an unstoppable avalanche. No, Carter bet 719 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: my defensive ro of the year. 720 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 2: Though, Uh, Defensive Player of the Year. 721 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: Okay, I bet he's gonna bet. I bet he's gonna 722 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 3: vote for Garrett just my hunch. 723 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said. This is by far the toughest award 724 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: to nail down. At least half a dozen incredible candidates 725 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: to finish number one, let alone in the top three. 726 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: I won't be able to get someone like Ravens defensive 727 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: tackle Justin Mattabuque, who is playing out of his mind 728 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: in dominating games. 729 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: He's he's been good. Yeah, but he's not defense player. 730 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: He's not Defensive Player of the Year or Viking's edge 731 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: rusher Danielle Hunter leads the league in sacks. The Giants 732 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: Dexter Lawrence is doing things nose tackles shouldn't be able 733 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: to do please for the garbage team too, and the 734 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: Jaguars pass rusher Josh Allen's having a career view. 735 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: He mentioned those dudes because. 736 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 2: That's why I wanted to go through this because there 737 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: are a number of Yeah. 738 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: Like that's who Max Crosby used to be before people 739 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: knew who he was. 740 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: He said. The last two players out are Lions defensive 741 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: end Aiden Hutchinson and Cowboys edge rusher Michael Parsons. So 742 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: those guys didn't make. 743 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 3: The cut because it's hard to errow it down and 744 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: there's a lot of good edge. 745 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: At three, he has t J Watt. 746 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 3: I get it. I mean I probably would have him 747 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 3: one or two, but I get it. I'm curious who 748 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 3: the others are. I'm sure Garrett's one of them. 749 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: At two he has Max Crosby. 750 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing about Max Crosby is he never leaves 751 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 3: the field and he has nothing around. 752 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: I get it. But their defense is atrocious. It is, 753 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: but not his fault, not his fault, but they're they're 754 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: atrocious and they don't win games. 755 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: I think they have three or four wins. They shouldn't 756 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: win games. I mean, they beat an awful team he's great. 757 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: I think he's a fabulous player. 758 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would want ahead of him. 759 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: Uh and Miles Garrett number one. 760 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know a problem with that. I mean 761 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 3: I think that it's between Watt and Garrett for me. Yeah, 762 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 3: he's having a monster year. 763 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: Offensive Player of the Year. There aren't a bunch of 764 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: names on this one. 765 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, AJ Brown's probably in consideration McCaffrey, I would. I 766 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: hope he doesn't put quarterbacks. 767 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, because they get they win the MVP awards, 768 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: they get their own award. Basically, that's MVP is really 769 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: the quarterback award, even though there are more valuable players 770 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: to their like TJ Watch should get votes for MVP. Yeah, 771 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,479 Speaker 2: but he won't because when they don't, when he's not 772 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: in their lineup, they don't win. When he's in the 773 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: they're like thirteen and five in the last eighteen games 774 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: he's played in in one in ten when he doesn't, like, 775 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 2: doesn't get any more start than that, and he's been 776 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: the reason why they've won some games this year in 777 00:32:59,240 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: the single hands. 778 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: Indeed, he's not more valuable than Josh Allen, right, you know, 779 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: just I mean it has to be a quarterback. 780 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they touched the ball on every play. Offensive 781 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 2: Player of the Year Number three is Christian McCaffrey. 782 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 3: M I mentioned him. I think that's fine. I think 783 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: a J. Brown. McCaffrey. Two is AJ Brown and Tyreek 784 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 3: would be my one. 785 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 2: One is Tyreek Hill. 786 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean he's changing games at a ridiculous level. 787 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 2: Most valuable player. 788 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 3: Lamar is going to be in the conversation. I don't 789 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 3: think I can go Mahomes. Can't go Burrow, can't go 790 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 3: to Uh, can't go Hurts, certainly can't go Brock Party. No, 791 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 3: who the three? I'm not going Allen. I'm not going Burrow. 792 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 3: He doesn't have enough. It's going to be Lamar. I 793 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: think who am I missing? Can't be an NFC quarterback 794 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 3: really can't be. No, Lawrence isn't there yet. No, but 795 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: Herbert's not winning enough. If sure, Mahomes name will end 796 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 3: up in the top three. 797 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: If Jacksonville keeps winning, Lawrence. 798 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 3: Show, Yeah, second half could be a strong case. 799 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 2: It'll be if Cincinnati keeps winning. Burroke, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, 800 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 2: I mean. 801 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 3: That's on he's on that path again. So who three are? Though? Uh? 802 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 2: He mentions so he mentions here Burrow, justin Herbert Burrow. 803 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 2: Since we did this for the defensive guys rock Party, yuck. 804 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the direction. 805 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, No, I can't go there. Trevor Lawrence, Josh Allen, 806 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 2: Josh Allen should be on this list, but they're not. 807 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 3: Winning games, right them. They're five and four. 808 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 2: I think, uh and then Tua okay in the direction. 809 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: When you've got the offensive player of the year on 810 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: your team and he's a wide receiver, you're not the 811 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: most valuable guy in your own team. 812 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 3: It's kind of like perty McAffrey to uh. 813 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 2: So at three has Patrick Mahomes. 814 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 3: He's awesome, and they would be. 815 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 2: They would be lost in trouble. It would be completely lost. 816 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 3: He has to be in the three, of course, could 817 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 3: win it, of course. 818 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Kelsey this year is not in the Offensive 819 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: Player of the Year award. That's probably I mean, he's 820 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 2: starting to show some signs of slowing down a little. 821 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 3: Bit too many off the field endeavors. 822 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, two is Jalen Hurts. 823 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 3: I don't think that's true. I don't know who I'd 824 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 3: pick in the top three. 825 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 2: He is completing sixty almost sixty nine percent of his 826 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: passes he's and he scores a bunch of touchdowns. They 827 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 2: you know, he's the vessel that they shove into the 828 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: into the end zone. 829 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 3: He just doesn't scream MVP to me. 830 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 2: I hear you. But they are the best team in 831 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 2: football record. 832 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know who else had to put in there, though, 833 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: So you got to pick three. 834 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: His QBR inside the pocket is seventy two point four, 835 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 2: which is the best in the league. Jalen hurts. 836 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I know he's throwing the ball much better 837 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: than any point in his life, and A. J. Brown's 838 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 3: benefiting and vice versa. 839 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: And then at number one is Lamar. Okay, I think 840 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: Lamar has been good this year. I think he's not 841 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: been as good as he was when he won the MVP. 842 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 3: I would say that too. That's it was almost my 843 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 3: exact words, like he would be my vote. But it's 844 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 3: a weak case compared to last year's MVP. 845 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 2: And I don't know that he's going to hold onto that, 846 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 2: like he's a huge part of their offense. No fans 847 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 2: orbuts about it. 848 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 3: I'd still bet that Mahomes wins it. 849 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: I'd bet on my Mahomes or Burrow. 850 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, And Lamar might have to even 851 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 3: do more to win it. Like, that's not a typical 852 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 3: m VP year. It's a great year, and he would 853 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: be my vote. 854 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 2: Likes his last two games, he's tharning for one hundred 855 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 2: and fifty yards. 856 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not m VP types. 857 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: He's not running for and he's not running like he 858 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 2: used to. Like, I get it. They're winning and he's 859 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 2: you know, it's slightly. 860 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 3: By default, yeah, because no one's like having a historic. 861 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 2: Year, right, I mean we just quarterback play across the 862 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 2: league is pretty much down. 863 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I didn't think Hurt's belonged to the 864 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 3: top three, but I couldn't up with three. So that's the. 865 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 2: Problem right now, somebody's got to do it. Somebody's got 866 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: to be the guy that last category. Yeah, I think 867 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 2: that's you know, kind of yet there's a lot of 868 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 2: that stuff is still yet to be determined, as it 869 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 2: should be. There's half half a football season. 870 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 3: Left, but one i'd feel strongly enough that would hold 871 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 3: his stroud. Yeah, yeah, unless he gets hurt, unless he 872 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 3: gets heard, And even if he gets hurt. 873 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: He still might win. He still might win it based 874 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: on what he's done thus far. 875 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: He's done enough that he might be pretty locked in. 876 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the defensive player of the early rookie Defensive Player 877 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 2: of the year stuff or Rookie Defender of the Year, 878 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: whatever that ward is called. Yeah, I think if Joey 879 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: Porter continues down this this path, he could he could 880 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 2: be in there, certainly in that conversation. 881 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 3: To have some picks. It's a tough position, but Witherspoon 882 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 3: is at the top of the list. He started to 883 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 3: get recognized. Certainly helps defense. 884 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 2: And again, it's Pro football focus and it is what 885 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: it is. I mean, their numbers on him show one thing. 886 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: His numbers on Pro Football Reference aren't quite as it's good. 887 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 2: It's good focuses. He's like the number one corner in 888 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 2: the league. 889 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 3: I think he's that. 890 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Reference is a little different on that. 891 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: But he's playing well, he's playing right. The fact that 892 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 3: they let him shadow and change their defense, I mean, 893 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 3: that's what's funny to be. Like everyone tells a story, Oh, 894 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 3: Joey Porter goes to Mike Tomlin and asked to do that. 895 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, players ask coaches stuff all the time and 896 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 3: they get told. 897 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 2: No, that's a great idea, coach, how about I throw 898 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 2: a touchdown? Like the tight end. Let me throw a touchdown. 899 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 3: I don't be refrigerator Perry or no go away. You know, 900 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 3: like the fact that they said, yes they think he's promising. 901 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's promising. 902 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 3: Yes, they changed their defense around because he might be 903 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 3: that good. He might be that guy we were talking 904 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 3: about this on different show. Is Ike the last guy 905 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 3: that would follow like and it wasn't all time? I 906 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 3: mean they're trying to think if they did that with 907 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: Joe Hayden a couple of times, maybe maybe, I mean 908 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 3: some of none one nobody was all that. 909 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 2: I mean Hayden used to do I know de Hayden 910 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 2: did it when he's with the Browns. Yeah, I can't 911 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 2: remember if he did. He might have done it once 912 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: or twice with the Steelers, but by and large, yet 913 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 2: Taylor is the last one that they did it on 914 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 2: a regular basis. 915 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it makes sense. 916 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 2: So anyways, that's the uh the list there at half 917 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 2: at the midway point of the season from Bill Barmwell. 918 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 3: Me a lot of change with that. I have a 919 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 3: feeling a lot of those not set in stone. 920 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, not sett in stone. But we're going to 921 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: get to another break that is set in stone. 922 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 3: By the way if you get odds on Burrow right now. Yeah, 923 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 3: two weeks ago is the time to do it. But 924 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 3: you know, yeah he could. He was really good. 925 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna get their break. He is Matt Williamson. I 926 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Driver here on 927 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. 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They're located 935 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 2: at Akrosher Stadium, Grove City Premium Outlets, or Tanger Outlets. 936 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: You can also visit online at shop dot Steelers dot com. 937 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie. You're listening 938 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 2: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. And I 939 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 2: thought we'd drive go through the injury stuff from yesterday. 940 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 2: There's some guys here and there that well, let's take 941 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 2: a look here at in other news I should say 942 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 2: as well. Taylor Heineke will remain the starting quarterback for 943 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons. They play Arizona on Sunday. 944 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 3: Speaking of which, Kyler Murray name on the other side 945 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 3: of that side. Yeah, so I guess that's the best two. 946 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 3: I mean, Heineke gives you a better chance to win. 947 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 3: I don't think he'll last. Do you think he starts 948 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 3: the rest of the year. 949 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I mean, as long as he 950 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: stays healthy. 951 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 3: Because they should be in the hunt. 952 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they should. For the Bills, Uh, Terrell Bernard was 953 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 2: in concussion concussion protocol. He's their rookie out of Cincinnati. 954 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 2: I don't love their d No, I don't either. Christian Benford, 955 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 2: cornerback tweaked his hamstring on Sunday and know more about 956 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 2: his status later in the week. And then safety Micah 957 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 2: Hyde has a stinger. They got all kinds of beating 958 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 2: up in that game. 959 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I don't know any of the schedule, like 960 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 3: who they played this code week or any that kind 961 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 3: of stuff. 962 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 2: But yeah, Carolina plays on Thursday night against the Bears. 963 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,959 Speaker 2: He's starting, either, you know, did we start neither d No, 964 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be a high scoring game. But 965 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to have to play either. 966 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 3: Well, those are two of the targets you wanted to 967 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 3: a decent d to play again. 968 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 2: So they had their estimated practice today. How about this one. 969 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 2: This is UH DJ Shark d n P. He's dealing 970 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 2: with an elbow injury. Viscus ankle d m P tight end, 971 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 2: Steven Sullivan d m P, UH tight end, Tommy Tremble 972 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 2: with the shoulder was full ike and mcewana with an 973 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 2: ankle was full. Brian Burns is in concussion, has a 974 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 2: concussion slash elbow, did not player. He's not expected to 975 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 2: play on Thursday game. Yeah, you're not going to get 976 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 2: through it that quickly. CJ. Henderson concussion as well. Two 977 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 2: of their best defensive players aren't going to play in 978 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: that game against Chicago. Oh, I don't want to watch 979 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 2: it plays. 980 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 3: At least spruce it up. 981 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 2: Well, here we go looking at the bar side of this. 982 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 2: Justin Fields with the thumb injury remains limited in practice 983 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 2: is considered day to day. According to Matt. 984 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 3: Eberfluss, Okay, I guess we're not going to learn much though, 985 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 3: He's how much you're not. 986 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 2: Going to do a lot this week. Yeah. Uh. Khalil 987 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: Herbert was designated to return from injury reserve, so you 988 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 2: get that one. Tremaine Edmonds considered day to day. He's 989 00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,760 Speaker 2: got a knee injury. 990 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 3: Kwan Brisker looked great when it happened. I saw that now. 991 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 2: Jakwan Brisker's safety is clear concussion protocol and he is 992 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 2: a full go now. 993 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 3: So they're in a little better Yeah, a little bit 994 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 3: better shape shape, but nice. It feels bad. 995 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Jamar Chase, he saw the playoffs and he landed 996 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 2: hard on his back. He said he's dealing with a 997 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 2: back injury that got worse. A Sunday night's game against 998 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 2: the Bills went on, he's pretty sore just moving around, 999 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 2: so I can. 1000 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 3: Kind of take her leave. Chris collins Worth, but he 1001 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 3: called that one. He's like, that's one of my most 1002 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 3: painful injuries. You're gonna hake it out of bed tomorrow 1003 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 3: and it's gonna get worse as a game goes on. 1004 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 3: Like he had the same thing. 1005 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 2: It tightens up. Yeah. 1006 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1007 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 2: For the Browns, Jedrick Wills has a high grade MCL spraing, 1008 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 2: low grade PCL sprain and bone bruises that he suffered. 1009 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 2: He'll he'll miss roughly six weeks, and he was placed 1010 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 2: on injured reserve for the Browns. 1011 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,280 Speaker 3: He went off on an air with an air cast 1012 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 3: on a cart like I thought his season might be over. 1013 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 3: So that's actually good news. 1014 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 2: But six weeks with now, they're already missing their starting 1015 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 2: right tackle. 1016 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Conklin's off the year, so day one. 1017 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 2: Jones was their third coming into the season. He'll he's 1018 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 2: starting at right tackle. Yeah, now you're missing your left tackle? 1019 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 3: Is it the Cincinnati dude, I would assume. Yeah, it's 1020 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 3: kind of soft. 1021 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're in trouble. 1022 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 3: They're in trouble. Yeah, I mean tackle is a tough 1023 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 3: position to get hit at. 1024 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and you lost to at least six weeks, 1025 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 2: you lost your top two guys. 1026 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 3: Don't quote me, but I think they were looking at 1027 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 3: the Wad Jones at some point during the game too. 1028 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 3: Maybe it's nothing, I don't know, but I just don't 1029 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 3: see if he's on the Wednesday list. 1030 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1031 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 1032 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 2: They also had the Marquise Goodwin go into concussion protocol. Yeah, 1033 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 2: wide receiver they traded, Yeah, traded one last week, So. 1034 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 3: They're kind of starching a wide receiver outside of Cooper 1035 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 3: a little bit. 1036 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 2: The Cowboys worked out Martavis Bryant. I heard that. 1037 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 3: I want to bring that up to begin of the show. 1038 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe I read that today. He hasn't played 1039 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 3: in like the four years. 1040 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's thirty one years old. 1041 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 3: He's pretty freaky ath though, I get it. Yeah, I'm 1042 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 3: a little surprised. 1043 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:09,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. The Green Bay Packers, who the Steelers play this week, 1044 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 2: released James Robinson from their practice squad. 1045 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 3: That guy, he's been on so many teams and us 1046 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 3: on the outside think he's good, but nobody on the 1047 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 3: inside believes it. Yeah, nobody wants to nobody commits to him. 1048 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get it. 1049 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 3: Uh. 1050 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 2: Christian Watson was not diagnosed with the concussion coming out 1051 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 2: of Sunday's game. So everything else that he had wrong 1052 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 2: with him yay, back. 1053 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 3: In her chest. But other than that, maybe they're just 1054 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 3: bruises or whatever. Yeah, the concussion was On top of that. 1055 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 2: The Indianapolis Colts worked out Sammy Watkins. 1056 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 3: Wow, I forgot he's not in the league. Yeah. Yeah, 1057 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 3: so there's that. It doesn't move need so much to me. 1058 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 2: Devin at Chan hasn't had any setbacks while recovering from 1059 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 2: his knee injury, and is on track to return from 1060 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 2: ir went eligible next week. I thought he was off 1061 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 2: this week. Miami will take things one day at a time. 1062 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 2: Maybe that was from Sunday. 1063 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. I thought he's missed four games. 1064 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 2: I thought he has too. 1065 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. I have one my fancy team of him too. Yeah. 1066 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 2: Uh. Minnesota quarterback Jiron Hall or Jaron Hall is currently 1067 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 2: in the league's concussion protocol. Cam Akers suffered a torn 1068 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 2: achilles in that game. That's the second time he's done that. 1069 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 2: That makes it tough. 1070 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 3: I didn't give much for him, but you feel bad 1071 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 3: for the kid. Yeah. 1072 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell did announce that Josh Dobbs will start against 1073 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 2: the Saints, so that has to. 1074 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 3: Be the starter. That's why you traded for him, right, 1075 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 3: He was going to start this second at some point. 1076 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:32,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1077 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah uh. 1078 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 2: And then Daniel Jones will miss the rest of the 1079 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season after suffering he torn a cl 1080 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 2: during Sunday's loss to the Raiders. Their quarterback situation is direre. 1081 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 3: I don't know if Taylor's out for the year. I 1082 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 3: know he's on I R I don't think. 1083 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 2: I don't think he's out for the year, but you're 1084 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 2: not going to have him the next three weeks and 1085 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 2: you got somebody's gould. I think they have Matt Barkley 1086 00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 2: on the roster. He was at least with them. He 1087 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 2: was with day Ball. 1088 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, in Buffalo, a backup coach on the field. 1089 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: Guy, I would start him. I would start him over 1090 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 2: to Vito can't play. 1091 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't believe Carson Wentz isn't in the league. 1092 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 3: It's mind boggling to me. 1093 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 2: Oh, it's crazy. One final big injury here, Dallas Goddard. 1094 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 2: Oh ye, fractured, fractured forearm. 1095 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 3: That's he's going on, ir right, Yeah, that might say 1096 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 3: he's supposed to miss at least four weeks. Who's their backup? 1097 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 3: I don't remember if I thought somebody, Okay, oh it 1098 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 3: was Alberto Oh, there you go. I'm like excited. I 1099 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 3: know it was a notable name. 1100 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:38,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1101 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 3: Uh. 1102 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 2: The Steelers did activate uh Anthony McFarland from injured reserve, 1103 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 2: placing Cole Holcombe on injured reserve. That was expected. 1104 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 3: I was slightly worried that McFarlane's window would close. 1105 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 2: They wait on this stuff until they have to make 1106 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 2: a move, somebody else would have been gone. Yeah, probably 1107 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 2: one of your defensive linemen. They're carrying seven or eight now, 1108 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 2: I think so yeah, so. 1109 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pray McFarlane in the offense a little bit. 1110 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 2: He can give you a little something there. 1111 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there was a receiver. 1112 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,439 Speaker 2: They had a little plan for him. Every year they've 1113 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 2: had a planform since he's been here and never seems 1114 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 2: to work out. 1115 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 3: Well, I'm basing off anything. 1116 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 2: It makes you a little more dynamic. Yeah, I'm all 1117 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 2: for it. 1118 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 3: No, I liked what I've seen lately. 1119 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not enough, not enough, But that's there's not 1120 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,359 Speaker 2: enough time left in this show. There's not that's going 1121 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 2: to do it for us today. Uh So, for my 1122 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 2: partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here on site keeping 1123 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 2: us on the air, I am Dale, Lolly. We thank 1124 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 2: you for listening to this edition of the Drive on 1125 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio.