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Speaker 3: So when Roger Goodell was planning out his schedule for

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl week, he probably didn't think, you know what,

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Speaker 3: now would be a good time to have to answer

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Speaker 3: questions about the Epstein list.

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Speaker 4: Yikes, and yet here we are.

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Speaker 3: So Roger Goodell was asked about the involvement potentially or

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Speaker 3: relationship potentially between Steve Tish of the New York Giants,

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Speaker 3: whose name was listed several times a bunch of times

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Speaker 3: in the Epstein list. So Roger Goodell spoke yesterday to

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Speaker 3: the media and of course was asked about the Giants

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Speaker 6: Last week release of some of Jeffrey Epstein's emails indicated

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Speaker 6: repeated exchanges with Giants co owner Steve Tish. To what

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Speaker 6: extent will the NFL look further into those exchanges and

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Speaker 6: could Steve Tish be subject to discipline under the Personal

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Speaker 6: conduct policy?

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Speaker 7: Well, you make it be getting ahead of yourself on

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Speaker 7: the second part. But I would say that absolutely. You know,

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Speaker 7: we are going to look at all the facts. We're

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Speaker 7: going to look at the context of those, We're going

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Speaker 7: to try to understand that, and we'll look at how

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Speaker 7: that falls under the policy. But I think we'd take

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Speaker 7: one step at a time. Let's get the facts first.

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Speaker 3: Now, Steve Tish. When this came out on Friday, Steve

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Speaker 3: Who's name apparently appears at least four hundred and forty

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Speaker 3: times among the more than three million documents released. According

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Speaker 3: to the documents included in the broader release of the

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Speaker 3: Epstein file, most of Tish's correspondence with Epstein appear to

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Speaker 3: be from about twenty thirteen. Tish released a statement on Friday.

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Speaker 3: This is the following quote. We had a brief association

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Speaker 3: where we exchanged emails about adult women. In addition, we

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Speaker 3: discussed movies, philanthropy, and investments. I did not take him

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Speaker 3: up on any of his invitations and never went to

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Speaker 3: his island. As we all know now, he was a

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Speaker 3: terrible person and someone I deeply regret associating with. LaVar.

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Speaker 3: You played for the organization your.

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Speaker 8: Thoughts, Yeah, And I know Steve Tish as well, and

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Speaker 8: he was always a fine person to be around. Why

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Speaker 8: are you smiling? Like you jumped on it real quick?

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Speaker 8: What are you smiling for? Is this a smilable to con?

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Speaker 4: I just.

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Speaker 8: Anyway, he was a really cool dud. I know he

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Speaker 8: was a part of making what movie. He's been a

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Speaker 8: obviously he's a Hollywood guy. When I heard the news,

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Speaker 8: the first thing I thought was why not get ahead

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Speaker 8: of it? You know, because it's always when you make

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Speaker 8: don't I don't see there being an issue.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I think it's a it's a it's a sticky one.

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Speaker 8: I mean, jay Z jumped on the jet apparently and

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Speaker 8: But you know, if he is some way, somehow related

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Speaker 8: obviously Goodale works for the owner, so he works for

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Speaker 8: Steve Tish, but the rest of the owners and whatever

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Speaker 8: it is, the rules they have, they're going to have

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Speaker 8: to figure out what to do. And then you'd assume

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Speaker 8: that he would have to get rid of his shares.

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Speaker 9: Just by the way, for Steve Tish films that he's produced,

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Speaker 9: we'll go through the list.

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Speaker 10: Actually a pretty impressive list. Forrest Gump.

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Speaker 9: Not just that, I mean risky business, American history X Snatch,

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Speaker 9: great film, The Pursuit of Happiness ye seven Pounds. And

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Speaker 9: then The Equalizer that's an action thriller series, not the

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Speaker 9: show with Queen Latifa that's been on CBS that has

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Speaker 9: been canceled. Yes, disappointing.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so not. I don't want back to be confused

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Speaker 10: to Queen Latifa.

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Speaker 9: I believe who's a vigilante that's going around and just

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Speaker 9: like you know, finding all the bad guys and Equalize

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Speaker 9: that that series somehow made it five seasons but is

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Speaker 3: So he's also the producer of a bad football team too.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow those credits.

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Speaker 8: Wow, I mean he's also the owner of the team

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Speaker 8: that beat arguably the greatest football team in the history

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Speaker 8: the catch on the head. They were about the Patriots

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Speaker 8: were about to achieve a unbeaten season, and it took

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Speaker 8: them to sleep to get the dub for the Giants, which,

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Speaker 8: by the way, I was supposed to be on that

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Speaker 8: team that was six, right, you get a ring?

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Speaker 4: I believe it was six. I was retired. I walked

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Speaker 8: They won the Super Bowl the very next season, so

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Speaker 4: What like, uh year? Three years later? Four years?

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Speaker 8: Four years leader? Yeah, and which by the way, I

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Speaker 10: I would be Some people said, if you were there,

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Speaker 10: I just I saw that on social media as some

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Speaker 4: I guess our show can only do so well.

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Speaker 9: And this is, uh, it's a crazy time right now

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Speaker 9: as far as when if you really want to go

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Speaker 10: And I'm not going to act like I'm one of.

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Speaker 9: Those people who has, but it seems like there's a

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Speaker 10: Some people even trying to buy jets from certain people.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, if you haven't seen that, that'sy and wild. But

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Speaker 9: this dude was connected to a lot of people. So

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Speaker 9: obviously there's a lot more to discover. We'll see what

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Speaker 9: comes from all this. But I do think there is

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Speaker 9: you know, there should be uh, you know, the ability

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Speaker 10: Let's not vilify everyone.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't look good if you try to reget and

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Speaker 9: leave the country and there's there's doesn't seem like you

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Speaker 9: want to defend yourself much.

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Speaker 8: There you help and you helped with entertainment of the

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Speaker 4: And yeah, maybe he's not here, he's not around, he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he left the country.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he jumped on the PJ and rolled out.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't look suspicious, not at all now, not at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: It looks real suspicious. This is not some suspicious This.

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Speaker 3: Is one of those things though, to where you need

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Speaker 3: such a dirty name to be associated with that. If

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Speaker 3: And there's there's gonna be people that are that are

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Speaker 3: it's still a terrible look for our league. It's it's

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Speaker 9: Okay, so if you want to go down that road,

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Speaker 9: like can speculate where this could go. You know, he

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Speaker 9: Steve Tish owns forty five percent of the team, so

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Speaker 9: it's the Cooke family and the Mayra family owns the

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Speaker 9: you know that they could force h you know, the

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Speaker 9: not like they're going to force everyone to sell. They

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Speaker 9: might have, you know, force him to sell his equity

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Speaker 9: Dan Snyder stuff, you know, for his terrible as his

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Speaker 9: ownership was over Washington, Like the valuation is the valuation

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Speaker 9: Like he's going to get potentially hundreds and hundreds of millions,

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Speaker 10: Is that a punishment.

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Speaker 8: I mean it's a punishment. It's a punishment because you won.

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Speaker 8: I mean obviously under the circumstances of wide hat to happen.

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Speaker 8: And and then I would say, I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 8: a generation. I guess hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of million.

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Speaker 8: But Odell Beckham said, it's not hard to it. It's

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Speaker 8: hard to live with a hundred million these days. So

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Speaker 8: take that for what it's worth.

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Speaker 12: Yes, you have lots, you let you've lost equity stake

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Speaker 12: in a very very sure, solid, solid piece of solid asset,

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Speaker 12: right and then.

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Speaker 10: And I'm sure they they'd love I'm sure you can

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Speaker 9: But the general point is like, it's not really that

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Speaker 11: Over under is half and I'm a Seahawks fan, so

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Speaker 11: y'all remember that faithful play.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yes, I'm taking the under, buddy. I hope

441
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 9: it doesn't happen to you again. So I'm taking the under.

442
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 4: What was the question again? I didn't get it, clearly.

443
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 11: Total interceptions thrown on a play starting in the red zone,

444
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Speaker 11: so they have to.

445
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Speaker 8: Be yet you, I got you a total interceptions.

446
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna take the under. Two.

447
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Speaker 11: I'm gonna take that sticks picks Jonas, what say you?

448
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: I was actually looking into this a little bit.

449
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Speaker 8: Oh god, Oh, you draw from the same paper stack

450
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 8: as a lab at Jesus. Huh yeah, all right, fad them,

451
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 8: everyone take the over.

452
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 3: Patty knocks locks.

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Speaker 15: You give me nightmares, Jonas, you give me nightmares?

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Speaker 11: Man, all right, Well, moving on here to the next

455
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 11: one here, so guys your dreams?

456
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Speaker 15: Oh lord, stop it?

457
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 7: Var?

458
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Speaker 4: All right? All right?

459
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 11: Well guys, will will there be a score on the

460
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Speaker 11: last play of the game.

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Speaker 15: It's just a simple yes or no.

462
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Speaker 4: No.

463
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 10: No for me, it sticks picks. Also no, I'm with Var.

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Speaker 3: When's when's Oh gosh, I'm gonna say no, Patty, I

465
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Speaker 3: don't believe knocks locks. I'm just not buying it. I

466
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: don't think this game ends in a walk off. I

467
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 3: think somebody's taking a knee and that's that.

468
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Speaker 15: Honestly, that's that's more my speed. Anyways.

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Speaker 11: With this game number two, this one's a fun one.

470
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Speaker 11: Will there be a flea flicker attempted in this game? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Or no?

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00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 15: Let's go with Brady, you go first.

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00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 12: Hmm.

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Speaker 10: No, there will not be a flee flicker. Maybe a

475
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 10: double pass, not a flee flicker.

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00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: When's When's I aligned with that?

477
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 4: I aligned with that. I'm on the same cagey.

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Speaker 8: Maybe like a misdirection double pass but flee flicker as

479
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 8: in like this is the sense of the word of okay,

480
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 8: you hand it off, the running back runs into the

481
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 8: line and pitches it back, and I'm gonna say no.

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Speaker 3: Now it sticks picks?

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Speaker 9: All right?

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Speaker 3: Now, let me ask you. Let me ask you this,

485
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Speaker 3: what are the odds if there is a flea flicker? Like,

486
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: what is the payout? Because I do think that some

487
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: of these you're gonna get really heavy odds and going

488
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: in one direction or the other. So if you bet

489
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Speaker 3: on one of these, or you make a pick and

490
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 3: one of these ends up hitting, shouldn't you get more points?

491
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: If we're playing this same nickel and dime dance that

492
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Speaker 3: you guys did with our picks against Sad this season.

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Speaker 10: We've already done picks. You can't change the game in

494
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 10: the middle of this. Done this when we.

495
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Speaker 3: First saw it, I just thought of it. Why can't

496
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: we bring it tuesday?

497
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Speaker 10: No, No, the rules have been laid. You're playing by

498
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Speaker 10: the rules that we started with yesterday.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 11: If you want a number line on the yes and

501
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Speaker 11: the no for flea flickers, the no is negative two

502
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Speaker 11: thirty five and a yes is plus one eighty five.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I thought it would have been more. I think

504
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 3: there is going to be a flea flicker. How about that?

505
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 10: Knocks loucks.

506
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: I hate fleas down pretty rough, don't we?

507
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 4: All? All right?

508
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: Guys?

509
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Speaker 11: Uh, here's one that MEAs Oh lord, well, maybe fleas

510
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 11: do or do not hate this play? Because will there

511
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 11: be a successful two point conversion?

512
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 4: Guys?

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00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 10: Yes, sticks, picks.

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Speaker 16: I'm also gonna say yes, when's whens, let's your what

515
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 16: your problem?

516
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 4: Bar White?

517
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: Give me looks, I didn't look at you what he means? Geez,

518
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, yes, there'll be a successful two point conversion.

519
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 10: Knocks locks.

520
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: There's three? Yay's there?

521
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: Guys? All right?

522
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 10: Final one?

523
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 11: Now when I say this for those that don't know,

524
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 11: I can elaborate it on this will there be and

525
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 11: not literally but will the will there be?

526
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 15: An octopus?

527
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

528
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 11: An octopus in this regard would be a player that

529
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 11: scores a touchdown and then scores a successful two point conversion.

530
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 11: So let's say ken Walker runs rushes in for a

531
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Speaker 11: touchdown and they do a two point conversion.

532
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 10: Hold on who started calling it an octopus?

533
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 15: That's where from DraftKings literally on DraftKings.

534
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: No.

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00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 4: Lingo, no, no, I will never use that.

536
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 11: That is like looking too hard. I actually looked it

537
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 11: up yesterday. When I was putting this in last night,

538
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 11: I'm like, what the hell is an octopus?

539
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 9: I'm gonna say no, I think there'll be a two

540
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 9: point converse. I don't think the same guy scores a

541
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 9: touchdown on the two point version.

542
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 10: Whens, whens, I agree.

543
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 4: I agree.

544
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: Now, all this off to Puss. It's got to be

545
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: the two point conversion on the touchdown he scored. Yes,

546
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: so on the same all right, yes, So I'm trying

547
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: to break this octopus down the best I can. I'm

548
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: gonna say no, there won't be an octopus in this game.

549
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: Knocks Loucks.

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00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 15: All right, Well those are my Those are my five

551
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 15: for the day.

552
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 4: There you go.

553
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: I didn't know that was a thing. I didn't know

554
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: octopus was met either. Apparently there's all sorts of things.

555
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 10: It needs to not be a thing. That's what we

556
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 10: need to do from now on.

557
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: What's your issue with it?

558
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 10: Just the name.

559
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 9: It just sounds like some nerd invented it and they're like, hey, man,

560
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 9: let's call it an octopus. Andone's like, okay, yeah, it

561
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 9: sounds cool. It's like a turkey and bowling.

562
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 11: It's just I'm gonna send a screenshot to you guys

563
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 11: from DraftKings because it's exactly verbatim on there.

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Speaker 9: And that's fine, Patty, I'm not holding this against you.

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Speaker 9: I'm just saying, whoever a DraftKings started before that is a.

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Speaker 15: Nerd Yes, like an idiot geez, I'm not.

567
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Speaker 10: Even going that far. Just it's kind of nerdy, like

568
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Speaker 10: you felt like you needed to come up with a

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Speaker 10: name for it. I mean.

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Speaker 4: The puss. Yeah, that's weird, sure is.

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Speaker 3: So it is getaway day for.

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Speaker 4: The boot.

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Speaker 3: Little little button mint. So it is a getaway day.

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Speaker 3: As we Jeffrey, we are getting ready to go to

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Speaker 3: the stay area. Think of it and you know, I

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Speaker 3: hope you guys are every things packed.

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Speaker 8: The wipes are needed for our walk over to the

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Speaker 8: facility from where we're staying.

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Speaker 4: That's what I heard.

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00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: You get raw ass walking that far.

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Speaker 4: Half not not not your ass, the health the hobo. No,

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00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: that's what I hear. I mean, that's that's the word

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Speaker 4: out on the streets.

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Speaker 3: That's what you heard.

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00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, make sure you have some do wipes available as

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00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 4: a peace offering of of of passage, you know.

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00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, hey, I feel like there'd be some other things.

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00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: They could probably go further, but you know, listen to dude,

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00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: wipe is always a good, good thing to have with you.

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00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 3: Now, with that being said, it apparently means in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 3: where we're at right now. Var apparently means that we're

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Speaker 3: gonna have some company for the next foreseeable future because

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Speaker 3: Sean mcm and less sneed they've agreed to contract extensions.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 3: They've they've agreed to contract extensions. They are going to

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Speaker 3: be running the show with the la Rams for the

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Speaker 3: foreseeable future. Sean McVay has done a tremendous job since

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Speaker 3: he's gotten there. We talked about all the coordinators he

627
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 3: gets jobs and higher less need has done a great

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Speaker 3: job drafting. They've got a couple of first round picks

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Speaker 3: with the one they acquired from the Falcons as well

630
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Speaker 3: to this year. So a lot to like with the Rams,

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Speaker 3: a lot to like where they're at, and apparently they're

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Speaker 3: going to be sticking around for a little while longer

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Speaker 3: here in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 9: You it's pretty incredible, like the job less Snead has

635
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Speaker 9: done building out rosters. You know, you go through the years,

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Speaker 9: I mean he's had a lot of guys who have

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Speaker 9: been impact players, and there's been some down years here

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Speaker 9: and there, but for the most part, I mean Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 9: first Ball Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 10: I think that's it's safe to say.

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Speaker 4: I hope so well.

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Speaker 9: Todd Todd Gurley was probably on that track Cracker before

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00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 9: his knee injury that changed a lot of that. You know,

644
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 9: people can say what they want about the Jared Goff pick.

645
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 9: They went to the Super Bowl, you know, I ultimately

646
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 9: they lost. But also if you look at what GoF

647
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 9: has been for Detroit since, like he's has been able

648
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 9: to help elevate that franchise. So I don't even know

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00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 9: that i'd call, you know that pick a miss, and

650
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 9: obviously in doing so, they end up getting Matt Stafford

651
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 9: and finding a way, which this is just talking about

652
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 9: their draft class, not even talking about what.

653
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Speaker 10: They've done in free agency. So very much deserved.

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Speaker 9: This has been one of the more stable organizations since

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Speaker 9: Sean McVay and Lestide has gotten there. However, I do

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Speaker 9: want want to go back to was it the Super

657
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Speaker 9: Bowl in LA? Was it that one where you know,

658
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Speaker 9: there was all this talk about like if he wanted

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Speaker 9: to keep coaching, if he was going to keep coaching.

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Speaker 10: Maybe he's burnout.

661
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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I feel like he signed maybe two extensions

662
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Speaker 9: since that point.

663
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Speaker 10: So what was that about? What was it something else

664
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 10: going on?

665
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Speaker 9: Or was it just about maybe the contract situation not

666
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 9: being exactly what he wanted it to be, because.

667
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Speaker 3: Remember he was thought to be the guy that was

668
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 3: going to get the Amazon Prime gig. That that was

669
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Speaker 3: the report that he was There was a twenty million

670
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: dollars a year offer on the table for him to

671
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Speaker 3: take the Amazon Prime gig when that was starting.

672
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Speaker 8: And then, by the way, if that were a true figure,

673
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 8: why not seriously entertain that, you know what I mean?

674
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 8: That's that's more than what he's making as a coach, right.

675
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: I would assume, especially back.

676
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 8: Clearly more like at least five million maybe back then,

677
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 8: But we don't know that now, and I bet you

678
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 8: when if his number ever comes out, it's not near twenty.

679
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 10: Well do you know how much coordinators are getting paid now?

680
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: Bar uh?

681
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: I know it's in the million.

682
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 8: I mean, if you think about just what Buddy got

683
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 8: coming to Penn State from Ohio State, he got three million,

684
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 8: and that's college.

685
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 10: So what do you think they're getting paid in the

686
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 10: NFL now?

687
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably at least five I think.

688
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 9: John again six Brian Flores just signed a deal for

689
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 9: six millionaire at Ship Kelly was sign for six million

690
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 9: a year. It's bit's big money now for the coordinators

691
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 9: to get. Remember there's no cap on their compensation.

692
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 4: Right, I get it.

693
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Speaker 3: I think I think John Harbaugh got reportedly around twenty million,

694
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 3: So it would not surprise me if McVeigh was.

695
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 10: But Belichick was being rumored to always been being paid that.

696
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 10: Pete Carroll.

697
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 9: You know, there's a lot of coaches that have actually

698
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 9: been rumored to being paid that because they've had roster

699
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 9: considerations as well, and obviously the responsibilities. So I would

700
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 9: not be shocked if that was not the case for

701
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 9: Sean McVay. He's won a Super Bowl, he's been to

702
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 9: a couple he's I mean, he would be that guy.

703
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 9: It's kind of interesting that his mentor was John Gruden

704
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Speaker 9: and that Gruden was traded for. But if you were

705
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 9: to put down a coach right now, or a list

706
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 9: of coaches, there's no doubt Sean McVay would be one

707
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 9: of those coaches that a team would mortgage their entire

708
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 9: future first round draft picks to go get Sean McVay.

709
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Speaker 3: Now you mentioned the you know, potentially him walking away

710
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: or taking the Amazon Prime gig. Back when that was

711
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 3: a story, there was an article that came out I

712
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: think maybe a year ago where Chris Peterson reportedly was

713
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: a mentor to Sean McVay and he reached out to

714
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: him because like he recognized in McVeigh what Peterson went

715
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 3: through as far as burnout and everything that came along

716
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Speaker 3: with it. And so there was some speculation that maybe

717
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 3: that was more to do with Sean McVay potentially thinking

718
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Speaker 3: about walking away and that once he sort of took

719
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: a step back and started to reassess everything that, you know,

720
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Speaker 3: kind of reignited the fire, so to speak. Now, whether

721
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: or not that was all just to get more money

722
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 3: in a contract, I have no idea, Like, who the

723
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 3: hell knows, But nonetheless, he's going to be sticking around

724
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Speaker 3: for a little while longer, and the question becomes whether

725
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: or not his quarterback, Matthew Stafford, is going to be

726
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 3: coming back and going to be a part of the

727
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: conversation as well too. Sean McVay spoke about Matthew Stafford's

728
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: future in LA yesterday.

729
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 10: As you continue to build, do you expect Matthew to

730
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 10: be part of that team next year?

731
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Speaker 14: You know, I think if that's something that he wants

732
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 14: to do, the answer is absolutely yes. You know, I

733
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 14: think people don't understand me in Gary's dynamic. I was

734
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 14: joking with Gary at the last press or they know

735
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 14: how much we have fun with each other. But you know,

736
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Speaker 14: I think what's great is is he's going to take

737
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 14: his time, talk with with Kelly and the girls and

738
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 14: see what's best. But man, is he's still playing at

739
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 14: an incredible level.

740
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Speaker 10: Our hope is that he does.

741
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Speaker 14: But I think, you know, with respect to his timetable

742
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 14: and ability to be able to communicate with you guys.

743
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Speaker 14: Whenever he feels ready to make that announcement, We'll let

744
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Speaker 14: him be able to do that.

745
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Speaker 3: I would be shocked if he didn't come back.

746
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Speaker 8: He got a coach's voice, don't he like coaches voice?

747
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 8: They always sound like they losing their voice, or like

748
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 8: they need to clear some flim out of their throat, like.

749
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 4: Or like they're sitting on the toilet. You know what

750
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 4: I mean.

751
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Speaker 8: I don't know, but I will say this, they were

752
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 8: one game away from the Super Bowl, fellas, and regardless

753
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Speaker 8: of anything else you're talking about, Matthew Stafford is probably

754
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Speaker 8: I mean, I think Drake may might get it, honestly,

755
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 8: and I'm not basing that off of the playoffs. I'm

756
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 8: just basing it off of the season. Drake may had,

757
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 8: I think he may get the MVP of the league.

758
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 8: But if it's not Drake May, I believe it's going

759
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 8: to be Matthew Stafford. So not only did you have

760
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Speaker 8: an MVP level year from Matthew Stafford this year, but

761
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Speaker 8: you had a well of a job done by McVeigh

762
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Speaker 8: and company, obviously mentioning Lesnie the GM as well for

763
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Speaker 8: this season.

764
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Speaker 4: So they've built a team that to me, it has some.

765
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Speaker 8: Durability, it has some sustaining power at least for the

766
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Speaker 8: next what two years or so, So I think Matthew

767
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Speaker 8: Stafford would be a major part of that or a major.

768
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Speaker 4: Loss to that. If they lose Matthew Stafford.

769
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Speaker 8: I think this team obviously, I mean, they'll have a

770
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 8: good defense, but it's potentially a rebuild type of situation.

771
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Speaker 10: Let me let me tell you what. Here's what I

772
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Speaker 10: think would happen if I'm Aaron Rodgers.

773
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Speaker 9: That's why I'd be looking to try to get to

774
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Speaker 9: Oh gosh, if you're gonna run a back, why not.

775
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Speaker 9: He's a California guy, as a West Coast guy. If

776
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Speaker 9: you could go back for one more season, We're not

777
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Speaker 9: try to be in that system. And it sounds like,

778
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 9: you know, again, you can say whatever you want about it.

779
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 9: I'm just saying if Stafford decided to retire, that would

780
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Speaker 9: be the number one destination for any quarterback who's trying

781
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Speaker 9: to go win a Super Bowl, and I think they

782
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 9: would do everything they could to get out of the

783
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Speaker 9: situation they were in to get there.

784
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Speaker 10: That's just how I feel about it.

785
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Speaker 9: So, if if indeed Stafford decided to hang it up

786
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Speaker 9: and by the way that decision, I mean, you'd hope

787
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Speaker 9: it would be sooner than later if you're less Steed

788
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 9: and Sean McVay for you know, cat planning superposes. But

789
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Speaker 9: if not, you know, he could drag this on and

790
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 9: you know, play it into the training camp to kind

791
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Speaker 9: of protect that from happening.

792
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 10: But I'm just saying there's.

793
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Speaker 9: Probably a number of disgruntled quarterbacks who are looking at

794
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 9: their situation. I think the grass is greener and if

795
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 9: I can, you know, cause a fit, talk to my agent,

796
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 9: find a way to get there. Trust me, there's there's

797
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 9: only a couple of quarterbacks that I think don't want

798
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 9: to move from where they're at to get a chance

799
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Speaker 9: to play with that offense, especially if Adams is back

800
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 9: and all the other weapons they have social Pookinakua and

801
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 9: that offense.

802
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 10: It trusts me, there's a lot of guys who'd want

803
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 10: to move to get there.

804
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Speaker 3: I would be shocked if Stafford's not back.

805
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Speaker 9: He has to be and he's gonna win the MVP,

806
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 9: and he and I play at such a high level,

807
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 9: and given how close this team is, you got to

808
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 9: run it back one more year.

809
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: And also remember the conversation we were having before the

810
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: season where it was the discussion is better is back, like,

811
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Speaker 3: you know, is he gonna be able to make it

812
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: through and whatnot?

813
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 8: And but that was never discussion moving forward though. I

814
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 8: mean it's just coming into the year. It was it

815
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 8: sounded like a tremendous concern and it just kind of

816
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 8: faded away. I mean, he just went about his business

817
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 8: in a workmanlike form for the entirety of the season.

818
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 8: Question is can you get more out of Davante Adams.

819
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 8: I think that that's the biggest question because if he

820
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 8: can show up, stay healthy, and be more of a

821
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Speaker 8: player in certain situations instead of just flashing from time

822
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Speaker 8: to time, and obviously that being the reason why they

823
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Speaker 8: brought him there, I think that offense becomes I mean

824
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 8: it's already a prolific offense, but if he.

825
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 4: Can find some of that magic left and be more of.

826
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Speaker 8: A factor in the game plan, I mean, there's no

827
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Speaker 8: reason to think that the Rams can't be right back

828
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 8: where they were. I Mean, a lot of people had

829
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Speaker 8: them making it into the super Bowl, and I don't

830
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 8: think that that was a far fetched, you know, conclusion

831
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 8: to come to.

832
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: So this team is ready to win.

833
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 8: But I'm gonna say the only thing I'm gonna disagree

834
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Speaker 8: on is I think the things are winding down for

835
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Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers, and I don't know that I would base

836
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Speaker 8: thinking that he would be the quick replacement fix if

837
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 8: I were to lose Matthew Stafford.

838
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm not confident in that would I would

839
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 4: need to see that.

840
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, he's obviously not playing at the level

841
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 9: he once used to play, but he is an unrestricted

842
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 9: free agent. So as far as looking for guys that

843
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 9: he's got the relationship with DeVante Adams. If there's any

844
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 9: question if Adams was coming back or not, you know,

845
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 9: that would probably help. He's going to be able to

846
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 9: learn the offense quick and give you kind of what

847
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 9: you're looking for. So I just I'm saying I don't

848
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 9: know how. I mean, other guys are under contracts even

849
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 9: if they want to get there. In order to do so,

850
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 9: it becomes a lot more difficult path to get there.

851
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 9: And on top of that, this is just all assuming

852
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 9: that matt Stafford decides to hang it up, which I

853
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 9: don't think he's going to.

854
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 10: So I think the question about Adams is real.

855
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 9: He'll be thirty four next season, and I think I

856
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 9: think you know, he hasn't had a full full season

857
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 9: since twenty twenty three, so it's been a couple of years.

858
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 9: I think as long as they keep him the rollies

859
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 9: in now and just add some other help to which

860
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 9: again shouldn't be hard to do to want to play

861
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 9: in this offense, and with Matt Stafford he's if he's

862
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 9: coming back, I think you keep him with what he's doing,

863
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 9: make him a red zone target, make him a guy

864
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 9: who you can trust to go win one on one

865
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 9: matchups on third down. That kind of became DeVonta Adams

866
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 9: role this season. And hell, that fourteen touchdown catch, I

867
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 9: think that led the league at least was tied for

868
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 9: the league during the regular season. So he's been very

869
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 9: effective in that role, and I think he can still

870
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 9: do that at a really high level.

871
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: By the way, Adam Schefter reporting this a few minutes ago,

872
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: patriotone or Robert Kraft, like his former head coach Bill Belichick,

873
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 3: was not selected to entry for entry into this year's

874
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: Pro Football Hall of Fame class. Sources told ESPN the

875
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame class for twenty twenty six will be

876
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: revealed Thursday at NFL Honors in San Francisco, but it

877
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: will not include Robert Kraft or Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 10: So wasn't Craft's name in the in the Epstein files

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Speaker 10: as well.

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Speaker 8: As the orchards of Asia foul?

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Speaker 10: No, there was like a number. I could be wrong, but.

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Speaker 9: I'm just saying, I wonder if it's the cheating stuff,

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Speaker 9: if people are making him wait, or if it's more.

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Speaker 9: You know that he might have been mentioned in some

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Speaker 9: of that, but I believe his name appears in some

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Speaker 9: documents that were a part of.

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Speaker 4: Some of that.

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Speaker 3: It's clearly something more than the accomplishments, because.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't make sense. I mean, it doesn't really make

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Speaker 9: sense for I mean even Robert Craft just to be

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Speaker 9: a step.

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Speaker 10: Removed as owner.

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Speaker 9: It's like he might not have any awareness about Spygate

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Speaker 9: or to flake Gate, you know, and he had such

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Speaker 9: a run of success as an owner.

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Speaker 10: Like none of that really makes sense.

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Speaker 9: So that there's there's got to be some people who

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Speaker 9: are holding some of the stuff that has either come

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Speaker 9: out or that he's done in the past against him.

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