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Speaker 1: Well, hi everyone, and welcome to the Rene Studs Tennis Podcast.

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Speaker 1: We are here in New York, me and the old

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Thompson, and we are sitting here in my apartment

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Speaker 1: actually watching the Paulini Ostapenko match. So maybe by the

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Speaker 1: end of this pod we're going to have an idea

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Speaker 1: who wins. But Caitlin, what a week of tennis we've

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Speaker 1: had already your favorite time of the year. I love

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Speaker 1: this time of the yearn come must day.

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Speaker 2: The rom tournament is so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: So beautiful, and the weather looks spectacular.

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Speaker 2: It's stunning. Uh. And the tournament because it's a Master's

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Speaker 2: one thousand, and it's the one that leads right into

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Speaker 2: the Fringe Open. Everyone is here and everyone's bringing it.

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Speaker 1: And everyone by we mean everyone. A Charis is back,

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Speaker 1: Sinner is bad looking, spec a tecular. You think that

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Speaker 1: the people were sending a message when he came out

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Speaker 1: to play that match.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who the people were more excited about,

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Speaker 2: Yennick Center or the new Pope. It feels like they

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Speaker 2: had two poles.

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Speaker 1: That's right, was very interesting Tom to be in Rome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: half about ol fashion, ol fashion. What do you call correspondent?

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Speaker 1: Correspondent cultural Yes, is in Rome and this PetCoach all

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Speaker 1: I see is her Instagram fee just walking around.

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Speaker 2: Gelato in their hands. It looks beautiful. Half the people

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Speaker 2: I know are news journalists in Rome to cover the pope,

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Speaker 2: and the other half are tennis journalists who happened to be, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, at a time when the city is extra excited.

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Speaker 1: But honestly, the tests, may we say an American.

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Speaker 2: Pope, I'm thinking of him as a Peruvian pope.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think a lot of people are, but.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I mean as first popes go. I guess we'll see.

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Speaker 2: But the tennis has been absolutely spectacular. The matches have

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Speaker 2: been rocking Center coming back all in black made two

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Speaker 2: very quiet, steady statements. The stadiums are losing their minds.

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Speaker 2: But in Yannick Center style, the guy comes in. He's

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Speaker 2: wearing an understated outfit, he's all business, he's calm, and

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Speaker 2: he's just getting it done. And it seems the pressure

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Speaker 2: of him coming back has now turned into adulation and

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously he's he's back in the mix, which

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love to see. And as you said, everybody's there.

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Speaker 1: And you I'll be honest, I didn't actually get a

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Speaker 1: chance to see he has matched, because I was a

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Speaker 1: little busy during that time. But your thoughts on how

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Speaker 1: he looked.

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Speaker 2: He couldn't be calmer. I mean, I think we're used

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Speaker 2: to seeing Yanick center when he doesn't play well. He

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Speaker 2: looks just out of sorts. He doesn't really carry on.

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Speaker 2: He's not like super emotional, but he just looks calmon,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, when was the last time you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. I mean it's been a while since

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Speaker 2: he looked overwhelmed or you know, obviously he gets outplayed

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Speaker 2: and you know, in the face of this is an

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Speaker 2: interesting tournament to come back for him, it's not, you know,

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Speaker 2: something that he could sort of play his way into.

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Speaker 2: From the second he stepped down the practice courte, the

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Speaker 2: whole place was rocking and rolling. You know, the videos

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Speaker 2: of the fans doing the wave and the you know,

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Speaker 2: just even before the match was starting, like it's it's pandemonium.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, who's been playing some pretty good tennis

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Speaker 1: this year. Impressive from Sinner to win as comfort comfortably

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Speaker 1: as he did, and let's face it, he's back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's back.

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Speaker 1: He's back. This will be a massive test for him,

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Speaker 1: not only to see how well he can stand up

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Speaker 1: against the best players in the world. You know, obviously

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Speaker 1: he feels pretty comfortable playing the guys that he does.

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Speaker 1: He plays de Jong next, who was a lucky loser,

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Speaker 1: so he's He's had a pretty good draw to come

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Speaker 1: back in. He hasn't like sort of he's not facing

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Speaker 1: which we thought maybe Devideck for Kina who got smoked

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Speaker 1: by DeJong, which was very unusual. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: good for Cinner because that makes it a little bit easier.

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Speaker 1: We know, you know the potential of the Spaniards. So

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Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean possibly Sarundlo will be the biggest

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Speaker 1: test in the section of the draw. But overall, just

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Speaker 1: an incredible looking Yannick Sinner coming back. But did you

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Speaker 1: expected nothing less? I mean, this is the most professional

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Speaker 1: I mean, he just does everything by the book well

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Speaker 1: practice as well. He's got a great team around him.

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Speaker 1: Now let's look at the old team. But but overall.

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Speaker 2: He's a big preparedness guy. So I think that tape,

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Speaker 2: I think that's really helpful, which is just put your

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Speaker 2: version of Yannick Center emerges at the end of the tournament,

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Speaker 2: but also kind of more importantly, what version of assuming

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Speaker 2: he makes it to the end. Carlos Alcoraz, we have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, concerned about why he's wearing the knee thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think this a year, it's not crazy

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Speaker 2: who his mischunks of the clayswing because of injury, right,

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Speaker 1: And it's consistent all the time.

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Speaker 2: He's always had a bit of a niggle here exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's like a lot of stuff that that tends to

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Speaker 2: catch up with him. Like you know, obviously he fell

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Speaker 2: pulled out of Madrid, and you know, we'll see, we'll

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Speaker 2: see what happens. You know. Somebody I feel excited about

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Speaker 2: and maybe worth talking about is Jack Draper YEP, who

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Speaker 2: has now notched his one thousandth tour level win. Yep

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Speaker 2: He's obviously comfortable on hard courts. Having one Indian.

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Speaker 1: Well gets to play one of your favorites.

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Speaker 2: I love quarantine Mate, who took out Runa in one

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Speaker 2: of my favorite matches. I think it was like one

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Speaker 2: of the longest matches, yeah, in Rome government history.

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Speaker 1: I think it was the longest match this year on

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Speaker 2: You know, And quarantine Mate is doing all of his

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Speaker 2: you know, I was a little torn in this match

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Speaker 2: because you know, there's Mama Runa smoking a cigarette on

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Speaker 1: It was just full time.

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Speaker 2: Epic motherhood Una. And then just quarantine mate. You know Lefty,

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Speaker 2: he kind of looks like a little type of a badger,

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Speaker 1: He gets his stable at times as well.

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Speaker 2: Gets the crowd into it, and you know, half the

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Speaker 2: of the spectator. So I really love the volatile French guys.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, And I know that's like if there's like

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Speaker 1: a type for you, it's a tape. It's not necessarily

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Speaker 2: Loves the maniacs.

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Speaker 2: I feel like is not a crazy man, but I'm

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Speaker 2: still one thousand percent in two is to your Fece.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But but it was so confusing because Fece is

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Speaker 1: You know, Arthur, Arthur Feace is a big dude. So

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Speaker 1: He just chose to sort of hit it comfortably and

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Speaker 1: it hit him. So I don't really understand why the

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Speaker 1: necessity for Steph just likes to cause drama when it's

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Speaker 2: I think he thinks of himself as like an elder

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Speaker 2: don't need the last word, especially in a match that

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Speaker 2: what are you doing, dude, Like just you last just

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Speaker 2: let me go, let go, just keep it moving.

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Speaker 1: you knew what was coming out?

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't, and I was upsetting. But anyway, Archerfiece,

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Speaker 2: he's like my one French guy who doesn't seem to

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Speaker 2: carry on like a pork trap. He's really more in

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Speaker 2: like the he seems.

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Speaker 1: To be getting in a few little he does fotets

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Speaker 1: at the end of matches, like if there's a guy

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Speaker 2: He's had a few confrontations at the end a few.

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Speaker 2: But do you think that's people bringing it his way?

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Speaker 1: No, Well, maybe I think he just pisses people off

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Speaker 2: On the court.

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Speaker 1: Well, he has some bravado on the court. He definitely

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Speaker 1: has a swagger. He has some swagger. I think between

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Speaker 1: him and Ben Shelton, there's a competition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, except Arthur Fece is good at tennis.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Ben's goods. Come on.

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Speaker 2: You can't say if he says like a good looking

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Speaker 1: A himd Yeah, but you know, credit where it's due, Kate,

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Speaker 1: credits where it's due to Ben Shelton. Shelton, No, you

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Speaker 1: just don't need to drag somebody down, just you know,

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Speaker 1: constantly doing this to you somebody who the match I'm

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Speaker 1: actually looking forward to. It could go for four days,

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Speaker 1: it could break the ATP record after what we just

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Speaker 1: saw from from Tasmanian Devil. But is the Tommy Paul

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Speaker 1: Alex Demonomous. Nobody has won more matches than Alex Demono

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Speaker 2: Is pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: I think he's equal or up there with the most wins.

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Speaker 1: And the dude doesn't lose before like the Quarters of

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Speaker 1: Semis every time and he plays I mean, he talk

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Speaker 1: about a professional. My god, he doesn't give anything up.

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Speaker 1: So this is going to be two guys that don't

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Speaker 1: The young woman from Texas Saintstern's is just collecting names

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Speaker 1: It looked like it was going to be Noomi's match,

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Speaker 2: It's very easy for me to see how Peyton Stern's

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Speaker 2: Well it's also just you know, yeah, but she didn't

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Speaker 1: the US Open. But but what it does is if

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Speaker 1: you're imagining yourself in the middle of the cour and

434
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Speaker 1: you're trying to guess where the player's going, and then

435
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Speaker 1: they go to your forehand right. You have to hahul

436
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Speaker 1: ass there as fast as you can, so you can

437
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Speaker 1: run as fast as you can and then you slide

438
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Speaker 1: into the shot right and you ol Karaz last night

439
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Speaker 1: hit an incredible sliced forehand passing shot down the line

440
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Speaker 1: that was ridiculous. So it allows you to slide into

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Speaker 1: the shot and as you're hitting the ball, you're sliding

442
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Speaker 1: and then you're able to stop and run back right.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you have to run through the shot completely, but

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Speaker 1: that shot has to be basically a winner, or it

445
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Speaker 1: has to be an incredibly aggressive shot. You so out

446
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Speaker 1: of position exactly because imagine you're running after the shot

447
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Speaker 1: and then there's the clay. You can't just stop and go.

448
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Speaker 1: So there are so many variations running forward to the net.

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Speaker 1: For example, we watched one of the shots that Naomi

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Speaker 1: in the tie break. For example, peyton Stones hit a

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Speaker 1: fourhand drop shot. It was a decent drop shot, but

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Speaker 1: a ball that Naomi if she had, if she'd run

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Speaker 1: really fast and then had a slide, she could have

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Speaker 1: got her racket under the ball and hit a little angle.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm not saying she would have won the

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Speaker 1: point because it was Peyton was in actually a pretty

457
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Speaker 1: good position but in the core. But instead of trying

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Speaker 1: to slide, she didn't even try to get to the ball.

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Speaker 1: She just just stopped running right because she knows, oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't run through that ball, get it and have

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Speaker 1: any chance of getting back. So if you play against

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Speaker 1: people that can't slide, and as a coach you have

463
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Speaker 1: to see that, I would be drop shotting all the time.

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Speaker 1: I would be hitting angles. And I'll give you I'll

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Speaker 1: give you a really good example. Not to bring Lisa

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Speaker 1: back into this, but Lisa played Monica Sellis in Amelia

467
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Speaker 1: Island and it's on hard true, which is even slipperer,

468
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Speaker 1: even more difficult to really control you moving. And Lisa

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Speaker 1: beat Monica Cellis on clay, which Monica was arguably one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest clay players of all time. Do you

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Speaker 1: know what? You know what Monica couldn't do slide. She

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Speaker 1: was not a slider. She couldn't slide because she controlled

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Speaker 1: the point from the beginning. Like Maria sharapover Serena could slide.

474
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Speaker 1: But you know, someplace like Agacy, you have to control

475
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Speaker 1: the point because if you're not in control the point,

476
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Speaker 1: you're done, right, So you have to be a super

477
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Speaker 1: aggressive player on clay if you don't slide. So Monica

478
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Speaker 1: dominated the point from the get go, from the return

479
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Speaker 1: from even her serf plus one. So I said to

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Speaker 1: I was kind of helping Lisa a little bit, and I said, Lisa,

481
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Speaker 1: she can't slide, so hit your serve wide.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, move her right.

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Speaker 1: So now she's off the court, and then you can

484
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Speaker 1: drop shot into the open court, or you can go

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Speaker 1: back behind her right, because what happens is they go,

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Speaker 1: oh shit, they're so far off the court. They start

487
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Speaker 1: running so fast back into the court, and that you

488
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Speaker 1: go back behind.

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Speaker 2: They turn their back towards the now. Yeah, to just

490
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Speaker 2: make it speedy. But then you're absolutely out of luck

491
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Speaker 2: if somebody goes behind you, because you cannot switch your

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Speaker 2: body position.

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Speaker 1: Exactly and you have no balance. Right. So, and Lisa

494
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Speaker 1: actually beat her because she utilized those things.

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Speaker 2: So she's like a tactical exactly, because you can do that,

496
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Speaker 2: especially if somebody if you're a descripancy. I guess my

497
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Speaker 2: question is like maybe it's like a trains presumably with

498
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Speaker 2: Patrick Morad Glue and his whole thing in the South

499
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Speaker 2: of Francis Hall Academy, and he's got a handful of them,

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Speaker 2: but one of them, the main one, is on clay,

501
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Speaker 2: on red clay, So like, what an't they doing drills? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: But as I said, it's like it's kind of scary

503
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Speaker 1: for a player to try and slide because what happens

504
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Speaker 1: is they get too heavy into their toes and they

505
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Speaker 1: don't slide on the base. Okay, so think about it

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Speaker 1: for the analysis at home. Okay, you imagine you're in

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Speaker 1: a hole right where it's just wood, right, and you've

508
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Speaker 1: got socks on. Think what was that movie Risky Business,

509
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Speaker 1: right where Tom Cruise comes in and he just slides

510
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Speaker 1: across the floor. That's very similar to what you do

511
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Speaker 1: on a clay court, right, where you run really fast

512
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Speaker 1: and then boom. As a kid, everyone would do.

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Speaker 2: It, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So but if you don't use your balance correctly on

515
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Speaker 1: the slide, and you don't hang back a little bit

516
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Speaker 1: right and you get a little bit too far forward,

517
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Speaker 1: you can go over the top of your toes and

518
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Speaker 1: you'll fall over. Yeah, and that is scary.

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Speaker 2: Actually watching naomiosaka run towards that dropshat and then decide

520
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Speaker 2: she couldn't make it. I think you could see. The

521
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Speaker 2: decision was if I keep running, I am going to

522
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Speaker 2: trip over the net and end up on my head,

523
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Speaker 2: which I think she may have. She sounds like very

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Speaker 2: very tall and like yeah kind.

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Speaker 1: Of well, she may have still got to the ball,

526
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Speaker 1: but she knows that she has no chance of getting

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Speaker 1: back into the court.

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Speaker 2: One hundred per so she would end up in the

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Speaker 2: net over it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so feel so going back interestingly enoughter something about eager. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's go back to the eager she on tech match,

532
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Speaker 1: and let's talk about eager a little bit before we

533
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Speaker 1: get into you know, some of the other matches that

534
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Speaker 1: were played and et cetera. Eager as any body moves

535
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: better than no one moves better than Ego and Clay.

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Speaker 1: She she utilizes the slide beautifully. She can slide for

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Speaker 1: twelve feet like easily, right, and someone that doesn't move

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Speaker 1: well on Clay, Danielle Collins. There's no so when when

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Speaker 1: when she was? Okay, So Danielle played unreal like I

540
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Speaker 1: don't know if you saw the match. I watched every

541
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Speaker 1: point of the man, but Danielle was crushing winners.

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Speaker 2: All over to me shot and so this is Thedimo,

543
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Speaker 2: this sweet show up.

544
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Speaker 1: And animal showed us she just needed a little incentive,

545
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Speaker 1: and that incentive to her is Eager Tech because they

546
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Speaker 1: do not like each other.

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Speaker 2: And so I think wrong about getting up for a

548
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Speaker 2: particular opponent. Yeah, I used to see Serena do it

549
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Speaker 2: all the time against Maria s Sherripober. But like you know,

550
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Speaker 2: there's sad, it's it's time.

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Speaker 1: There's no drop shots, there's no making Danielle move to

552
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Speaker 1: the angles. And Okay, you might say, well, but Danielle

553
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Speaker 1: was controlling the point from the get go. Yeah, true,

554
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Speaker 1: but that's where Eagan needs to be able to do,

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Speaker 1: or her coach when for set needs to be able

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Speaker 1: to go. Okay, skill doesn't move that well, but she's

557
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Speaker 1: going to. You've got to figure out a way to

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Speaker 1: get her moving. Now when you're missing your first serve,

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Speaker 1: which Eager is doing way too much on clay, you

560
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: don't need to hit a winner on the fucking serf.

561
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Speaker 1: So if you're going to hit your kickserf, do it

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Speaker 1: on the first serf. Okay, because Danielle is standing six

563
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Speaker 1: feet no, maybe four feet behind the baseline to hit

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Speaker 1: her first return on the first serf, that's your opportunity

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Speaker 1: as a clay courterer with a good kickserf. I would

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Speaker 1: work on it a lot more. She doesn't hit it enough,

567
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Speaker 1: but she has one hit that as a first serf.

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Speaker 1: Now your opponent is behind the baseline. Now they're having

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Speaker 1: to hit the return up above their shoulders and it's

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Speaker 1: very hard to hit a winner off of that particular

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Speaker 1: serf on the first serf. Then if she gets it back,

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Speaker 1: she's behind the baseline. Now you can utilize your spin

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Speaker 1: and your ability to make her move. But instead she's

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Speaker 1: missing the first serve too much. Then daniel stands up

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Speaker 1: on the base and Eager's going, oh, I'm gonna hit

576
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Speaker 1: my kickserve, and Daniel's like going, thank you very much,

577
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Speaker 1: Like I just ate a whole bucket of Kentucky Fried

578
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Speaker 1: chicken and I'm licking my fingers because she is going

579
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Speaker 1: crash bang on every second serve and hitting winners and

580
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: he is not able to even get in the point.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, you have to strategically think, I haven't

582
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Speaker 1: won one serve. She didn't win one service game in

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Speaker 1: the first set.

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Speaker 2: Love why because Danielle's standing in and making her play,

585
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: but she's not, You're right, practical.

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Speaker 1: Stand over first in the back end court, right, I

587
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Speaker 1: would I would have her move over a little bit right,

588
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Speaker 1: and I would use the kickserf and get her off

589
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Speaker 1: the court on the first set.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you. I'm going to ask you a.

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Speaker 1: Point, a little sam Stoza move.

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Speaker 2: Listen. Oh, credit to Danielle. I loved it. Every point

593
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Speaker 2: of it was Danielle at her most aggressive, ferocious slugfest.

594
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Speaker 2: Just I'm here for it all day long. If you

595
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Speaker 2: are Eager's coach and she has now had what I

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Speaker 2: think a couple of weeks ago we described as being

597
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Speaker 2: potentially on the worry index, I think she's there.

598
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: Oh no, she's past the warrior index.

599
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: So is this Eager is not playing well or Eger

600
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Speaker 2: is maybe not being coached well.

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Speaker 1: I think it's both. I think it's both. She's not

602
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: being coached well and it is affecting her tennis.

603
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: Could she, with a change, be effective at the French

604
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: Shop and a place that has been very comfortable for

605
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Speaker 2: her and you know, a hunting ground?

606
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Speaker 1: Really? Yeah, she's got to go back to basics. Yeah,

607
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: like the most simple things. Caitlin, when she looked like

608
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: she was getting back into the second set, she got

609
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: up an early break. We're like, okay, look she lost

610
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: a set six love to Madison Keys and then comes

611
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: back and wins, right, So would you be worried, Yeah,

612
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: of course, because she's usually winning these matches oh and one. Right,

613
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Speaker 1: But you have to sit her down and say I

614
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: would sit her down and say, look, you're struggling a

615
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: little bit. There's no doubt, right, But why because when

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Speaker 1: you have an opportunity on a second serve, for example,

617
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Speaker 1: or an easy ball, you're missing them. Why are you

618
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: trying to You're trying to get your confidence back? Why

619
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Speaker 1: are you trying to hit every single ball on the

620
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: sideline now? When you were number one in the world

621
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Speaker 1: and dominating on this surface and you everyone was petrified

622
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: to walk on the court with you. When Carolina police

623
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Speaker 1: Gover loses oh and oh in the finals of Rome,

624
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: after she's just won five matches to get there, playing

625
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: quite well, people go, shit, I don't want to get bageled.

626
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: People were going out against Eager Shontek going please don't

627
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: bagel me, please, I just need to get a game.

628
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: Let me think about that. Playing Serena on grass. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just like instead now people are like, well, I

630
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: know she's going to make errors. Yea, I know she's

631
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Speaker 1: not going to serve me off the court. So all

632
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, the lockier room reputation inside of the

633
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: locker room is going she's fallible, she's beatable, and she's

634
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: not playing well and she's making a lot of mistakes.

635
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: So so players walk on the court going, oh, I

636
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: think I can win this match, which they would never

637
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: have thought that a year ago on clay.

638
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Speaker 2: So no way a return to big targets.

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Speaker 1: I would first of all, on the returns of serve.

640
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: If you get a chance to hit the return, please

641
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: in the first three or four games, do not try

642
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: and hit the sideline. I want you to crush every

643
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: single one of them through the middle of the court.

644
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: There's little basic things that you can teach a player

645
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: to make them feel confident. So now she's making every

646
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: she should make every single return because you're going through

647
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Speaker 1: the lower part of the court, the biggest, fattest part

648
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: of the court. Right now, if the person starts hitting,

649
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: winners offered that shot through the middle of the court. Okay,

650
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: now we have to make them move a little bit more.

651
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: So Daniel Collins doesn't move that well on clay at all.

652
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: She doesn't slide, so I would say it.

653
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: Covers the baseline very well. But you're right, she do

654
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: the base.

655
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: If you push her off the baseline, now that opens

656
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: the court up right. So if daniel goes back three

657
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: or four feet behind the baseline.

658
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: Now you've got her now short angle right.

659
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 1: Now, drop shot and then you crush some winners. But

660
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: why do you need to hit the sideline. You don't

661
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: need to hit the line. You can hit the ball

662
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: four feet inside the sideline and with depth, she's not

663
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: getting enough depth on the ball. If you get depth,

664
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: you again push your opponent back. And there was one

665
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: game in the second set where she was serving down

666
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: love thirty and I was like, oh boy, or maybe

667
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: it was three to two in the second set and

668
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: I thought, oh boy, here we go. She's gonna lose

669
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: her serve again. She'd don't you held like once or

670
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: twice in the whole match at this point, And she

671
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: hit some really good first serves to the forehand. She

672
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: varied up where she went with the serve, and she

673
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: played just a strategically good movement point against Danielle and

674
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: won the game. She won four points in a row

675
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: that if I was her, I would say, watch this game.

676
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: This is how you want to place more of this

677
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 1: less of that, And it's simple. You're fine, you know,

678
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: you know I heard whim say at one point play

679
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: to win, Like, dude, what no, how about give her

680
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: a thought process, go through the middle on these returns

681
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: and go for it. If you lose a game, it's okay,

682
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, and then hit some first serves with kick

683
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: as a first serf. Get your rhythm.

684
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: Back on something actually tactical, something.

685
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: Tactical, not played win. What the fuck does that mean?

686
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: My host call Tennis Court choose to just tell us

687
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: hit it in the court.

688
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: You're like, uh, really, thanks, No, he did not.

689
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: She was. She was a homebaged teacher though.

690
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: Oh look different. Yeah, but it was still just not

691
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: getting paid, no, hundreds of thousands of dollars.

692
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: Not getting any bonuses. If we make it exactly, it's

693
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: just like, bring us a tray of Brownie's. Hit it

694
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: in the court.

695
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 1: Girls. She's missing way too many first serves. Yeah, and

696
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: then she's under pressure on her second serve. And people

697
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: on the tour of these days, the Madison Keys, the

698
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: Dead Saba Lenkas, they gonna eat that for lunch totally,

699
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: particularly on their backhands, which is most of the women

700
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: in the top twenties best shot is the.

701
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: Backhand, including Danielle, And so credit to Danielle for sure.

702
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: You love to see the animal back. Love that it

703
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: a little catalyst in a bit of a chippy match.

704
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: And you know, for me, I uh, the tour is

705
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: better when Danielle Collins is fired up and in it.

706
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: So pumped, pumped to see it.

707
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: Definitely.

708
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope Ega comes out in Paris with a

709
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: new plan.

710
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: That you say, new coach, maybe that I mean, if

711
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: he lasts through Wimbledon, I'll be shocked.

712
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: Me. Yeah, something's got to give.

713
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: Something's got to give because it's a networking No, it's

714
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: definitely not working. But listen a couple more.

715
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Radakanu, who's now playing Coca GoF.

716
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I like Coco's odds in this match, but

717
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: can I just say, it's so nice to see Ammata

718
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: Kana winning matches smiling on court. I love the way

719
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: she plays tennis, like, I just love her technical like

720
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: I love her movement and like the way that her

721
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: strokes look. It's just so clean. And classic, you know,

722
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: and again like the tour is better when we have

723
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: like a vibrant, interesting mix of people playing it well.

724
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: It certainly would be great to see Ammarata Kanu and

725
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 1: Cocoa golf playing in bigger matches throughout the you know,

726
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: the year, because like a final, not both of them,

727
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: but both of them are so well known. Both of

728
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: them have you know, had some spectacular results as young players,

729
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: but clearly Coco is you know, just dominating when it

730
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: comes to consistency compare to Radikanu. But also Ratikanu has

731
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: had you know, some pretty crazy injuries. How much is

732
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: that is, you know, just the stress and the pressure

733
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: on her shoulders, I don't know, But.

734
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: This year, especially after that run she made Miami, it

735
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: is nice to see her not look like she has

736
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 2: the way of the world on her shoulders and can

737
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: just kind of swing free and play it, which I

738
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: you know, you don't want to see a player not

739
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: play well because of pressure, which is I think why

740
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: watching Ego these last couple of weeks has felt so

741
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: tough because she looks so unhappy out there, and when

742
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: Coco's gone through some tough times, it's sort of similar,

743
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: you know, she she can get to a place where

744
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: it's it's quite negative and for me it's like, yeah,

745
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: that's that's tough, and you know, it's just honestly, it's

746
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: nice to see players looking confident and not miserable out

747
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: there on the court, especially when you're playing in such

748
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 2: a beautiful place like Roum's Fortalico, and.

749
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: You do feel like that when you're out there, you

750
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: do feel like, you know, in rhyme, you're like, oh,

751
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm pretty I'm pretty lucky, you know, to

752
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: be playing. It's the same with you know in France

753
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: that the exactly certainly, certainly Peyton Sterns deserves some she.

754
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: Can keep it down exactly.

755
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: But Sabelenka canon match was also awesome. As I said

756
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: prior to I think I said it last week, it's

757
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: really nice to see Sophia Kennon back, you know, you know,

758
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: close to inside the top thirty in the world.

759
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: She's somebody who's looked feisty, looked sort of sad and

760
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: last in the last couple of years and now this

761
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: last year she's really like found her facein US and

762
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: the fun watching.

763
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: Her because she's for Sablenca. Now a couple of times.

764
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a three sad slog fast. Yeah, the

765
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: level was quite high.

766
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Sablenka had to step it up in

767
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: the second set because Canon was And this is so

768
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: I'll get to some players that I really feel like,

769
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: this is so important to understand. Mira Andreva, for example,

770
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: who is also through in this tournament, playing great tennis.

771
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: She has not looked troubled.

772
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: Bianca Undrescue getting the win over Rubakina.

773
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: Right that so.

774
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: On clay, not only do you have to be patient

775
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: and fit and strategic, but this strategy part of clay

776
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: and the importance of variety is so important. Right The

777
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: drop shots, the angles, the high balls, all that sort

778
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: of stuff. That's the stuff that Kennon does really well.

779
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: You know, Kennon will give you, you know, a belting fourhands,

780
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 1: belting backhand. She can throw it out, but she throws

781
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: a high ball in. She will chuck in the drop shot.

782
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: She uses that. She does that on hard court, but

783
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: also she does it beautifully on clay. Look, this is

784
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: somebody who made the finals of the French Open. She

785
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: knows how to play on clay. She slides really well.

786
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: She grew up in Florida, she played a lot on

787
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: the hard tree as well as well. But I love

788
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: watching there are tennis players like Noskova who hits the

789
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: shit out of the ball, who hits the ball really good, right,

790
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: But when you're playing against the mirror Andreva, she hits

791
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: the ball not as big as you, but she's smarter

792
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: and she moves slightly better than you. And I will

793
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: take that over player that hits the shit out of

794
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: the ball on clay any day of the week, totally

795
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: is taking the ball that's coming at her hard and

796
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: she'll throw a high ball up. Then she'll throw in

797
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of a fourhand slice, she'll throw in

798
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: a drop shot, she'll throw in some little angle like

799
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: Andreva undrescue, I would say Peyton Stern's in some respects.

800
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: They're using variety a lot better on the clay, and

801
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: that's why they will often beat a big hitter because

802
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: they're making those little random shots on clay. So that's

803
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,479
Speaker 1: why playing on clay is so fun to watch.

804
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: This is, I would say the same of natural surfaces,

805
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: which is the technique and the tactics are so crucial.

806
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: That's why Al Karaz which is so fun, which is

807
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: why Al Koraz so you know comes a lab during

808
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: this part of the year.

809
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: Yes, because on our natural surface like clay and grass,

810
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: not only do you have to move differently right, you

811
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: have to have the sliding ability on clay and then

812
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: on grass you have to have the ability to stay

813
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: upright balances. You have to have the soft feet the

814
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: Roger Feeder of twinkle toes, you know, where you're not

815
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: heavy on your feet and sliding. Like, how many times

816
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 1: did you see Roger Feeder fall on his acid grass?

817
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: I guess like he did a couple of times with

818
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: very very rarely right because he understood if you get

819
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: out on the outside part of the court you've got

820
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: to be a little bit softer because it's super green.

821
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: You know.

822
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: Rafa was very good like that. So when you think

823
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: about Yannick Sinner, he's not he's so gangly and tall.

824
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: He is a fabulous mover for his size. But on

825
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: clay he's good because he grew.

826
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: Up on it.

827
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: But on grass it's a little bit tough for him.

828
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: On a hard court, he can really push and he

829
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: can really move a lot easier, and it likes that stability.

830
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: That's why Carlos is a little better on the natural

831
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: surfaces because he's a naturally better mover and athlete.

832
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: Which makes that that matchup so fascinating. I think for me,

833
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 2: the natural surfaces are just so much more interesting to

834
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 2: watch because you get such artistry from the artisty good players.

835
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: And when you were talking about Miro and Dreva against

836
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: Linda and Oskova, you know, like a lot of the

837
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 2: Czech players, I mean, probably Mulkov is the one example

838
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: of the most finesse of the check players, but a

839
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: lot of them the why just massive, sating, massive, you know,

840
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: beautiful technique, maybe not always the variety. And you know,

841
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: this is the part of the year where you really

842
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 2: see the difference between like, oh yeah, Lynda and Moskova

843
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: hits a great ball, but it's not enough because Miro

844
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: Andreva also hits a great ball and count of punches

845
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: so does some other stuff. Yeah, and I think that

846
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: to me is like that's the beauty of tennis. I

847
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,959
Speaker 2: actually had a experience like this on Saturday. I played

848
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: the West Side Tennis clubs oh Boy member guest. It

849
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: was fun, no, but I played against a woman, a

850
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: check woman, who reminded me of every single person.

851
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: I played in college, they all applied the sign body.

852
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: It's a very very similar game style now, flawless on

853
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 2: the backhand and forehand wings, smart percentage tennis, nothing fancy.

854
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: Every college match flashed before my eyes where I was

855
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: playing somebody like at three singles against like Baylor or

856
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: whatever in a random bump fuck part of Texas, and

857
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: I was playing somebody who just like didn't miss. And

858
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: the only way I win those matches is if I

859
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: chip in charge, I do some shit I do, you know.

860
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: I mixed it up, I hit party serves and it

861
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 2: was fine. I won the match actually this weekend, and

862
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: it was fun because I remembered that, like, oh, if

863
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: I don't miss and I do something creative, that's effective,

864
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: but you really do have to do that otherwise you're

865
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: not gonna You're gonna lose a war of attrition.

866
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you say that because my biggest

867
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: pigeon in my singles career was a girl called Karina.

868
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: I think her first name was Habsodova. She was Czech,

869
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: and I loved playing the checks because they played very

870
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: similar and they played very percentage tennis, but they played

871
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: it flat and so for me as a servant volley

872
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: and somebody they like to come to beautiful. I just

873
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: was like, I'd come in and I knew every passing

874
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: shot was going cross court, that's right. And I was

875
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: just like, thank you, bing. I don't think I even

876
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: lost a set to it. And she was like a

877
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: really good singles player. She had a much better singles

878
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: career than me. But I loved playing against her because

879
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: I was like six and oh against it because she

880
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: never did anything different. So that's the thing. That's why

881
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: they're such good players, because they taught the fundamentals so

882
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: well and they do them really well.

883
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: But when you have a player like a check player

884
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: like Mukhova, who which is why I like, well.

885
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: Let's just talk about Carolina.

886
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: But before you before you talk about her, I just

887
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: want to I just want to talk about the fact

888
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: that it's a It's remarkable if you come out of

889
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: a system that is teaching you basically to fit into

890
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: a box at a very effective box, and then you

891
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: separately can do that, but and you have the ability

892
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: to have feather you know, featherlight bands.

893
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: We've had some players from the check like that, like

894
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: Hannah man Lakova, Like there's been still some very flashy

895
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: and flamboyant sort of beautiful tennis tea and that rattle over.

896
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: Yes, but tennis wise, but percentage wise, there's so many checks. Yes,

897
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 2: that there are such a small.

898
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: Fraction of them. That's true, you know what I mean.

899
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. I'll give you that.

900
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: Of the of the seventy five check players from a

901
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: country of like one hundred people, seventy five of them

902
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: are professional tennis players who are excellent, and then like

903
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: three of them play this flamboyant style.

904
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, I'll give you that. I'll give

905
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: you that.

906
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: Hats off to the check system obviously.

907
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my god, there's not no one better. Coco

908
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: Goff also having another fabulous week this week. Who is

909
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: up against Maratocano's We already talked about that. Matches going

910
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: along swimmingly for her. Switzalina as well is playing great.

911
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: She plays against Daniel Collins. See, that's a match that

912
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: I see Switzerlena winning.

913
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: Because Cividolina will use all the tools.

914
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: All the tools, the drop shots, the high balls, the

915
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: she won't be listen, She's from Ukraine.

916
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 2: I don't think she's gonna be bothered. She's not bothered

917
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: by the come on al Kyloe Tannis fist pumps. No,

918
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: she's she will doesn't even care about the spectright.

919
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: Emma Navarro on the worry list big time. The worry

920
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: index for her has it's it's piling up, but starting

921
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: to really because now she won so many matches earlier

922
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: in this year and even arguably at the end of

923
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 1: last year in three sets, and now she's not winning matches,

924
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: and so you know, how much is the confidence taking

925
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: a hit now on her and how she going to

926
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: bounce back from this because she has a lot of

927
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: points to defend this way.

928
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 2: I think of Emma Navarro and correct me, because you will.

929
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 2: But I think of Emma Namurrow as somebody who had

930
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: an over optimized year last year. I think she played

931
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: above her I.

932
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: Think she played I think she played at her ability.

933
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: I think that's a fundamental different take. I think you're

934
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: one of us, is right.

935
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who, but well, I think I believe

936
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: she plighted at her ability.

937
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: I think she played. I think she played above her

938
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: ability last year, and I think and.

939
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: I think that's possible. I think you play it your

940
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: ability and her But that was her best ability. Her

941
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: best ability came out last year, and I'll tell you why,

942
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: because she did not have impression on her. She's this

943
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: kid that was coming in. Sure, she's coming in from but.

944
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: I think you see a lot of I think, especially

945
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: in the women's tour, you see a lot of players

946
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 2: who come in. It's a new look, it's different. Maybe

947
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: they scrap harder, maybe they hit her story tenants. Listen.

948
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: I mean, look at Eugenie Bouchard. Would you say that

949
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: she over indexed for the year that she made three

950
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 2: Grand Slam finals?

951
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: I would.

952
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 2: I think that then she regressed to the mean, which

953
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: is that she's probably.

954
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: A pickaball planel average.

955
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I think of ad

956
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: like emin Vera a lot.

957
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: I root for her.

958
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 2: I like her scrappy stay.

959
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: Emma doesn't have a lot of weaknesses, but she does

960
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: everything really quite well, and she doesn't have a lot

961
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: of weapons. And I think the biggest difference now is

962
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: people are scouting her more, seeing her play, more understanding

963
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: what her strengths and weakness. I mean that's a big thing.

964
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: It's sophomore years.

965
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: I think, to me, it's she's all these players are incredible.

966
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: Please don't think I'm disparaging them. But I think emmina

967
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: Vero is average. I think last year, because she was

968
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: fresh to a lot of people, she played she had

969
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 2: above average results.

970
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't call her average. But because I'll tell you why,

971
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: because I saw her play when she was not a

972
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: good player technically, you know, quote unquote, not on the

973
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: tour yet it was kind of still maybe even going

974
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: to college and contemplating, and I thought, oh, who's this kid.

975
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: She's talented. She's really talented. So there's nothing that she

976
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: does that's really poor. Very good forehand, very good backhand,

977
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: good serve volleys. Well, she does everything quite well, you know,

978
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: sort of like a Jasmin Paulini who were watching. Jasmine

979
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: has maybe a little bit more firepower on that particular

980
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: on the forehand, but the sounds of York in the background.

981
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: But I think the thing with Emma is that I

982
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: just think the confidence, once it goes, it's hard to

983
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: get it back. I mean, Jasmapalini has struggled this year

984
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden it's just clicked again,

985
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: right and clearly playing at home. She's currently up pretty

986
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: comfortably now against Ostapenko a set and four one. Looks

987
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: like she's going to win that match once it clicks

988
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: back in. Now, will that happen for Emma on the

989
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: grass on the hardcourt, maybe, But now it's fighting through

990
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: some of the scar tissue and the demons in your head,

991
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: in your own head, like okay ah, you know, and

992
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: that's what IgA is now struggling with. And then you

993
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: start adjusting things on the practice core. You start getting

994
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: in your own mind that you can't hit your forehand

995
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: well anymore. You can't, you're not serving well anymore. Whatever

996
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: it is. You got to get through that. Now you

997
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: got to pattern interrupt and get back to the hard

998
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: work and grinding out matches and winning them. And every player,

999
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: not every exceptions like Rafa, Roger Novak, Serena, all of them,

1000
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: but some of them have gone through patches. I mean

1001
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: Novak's has gone through patches in his career. Back ten

1002
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 1: years ago. You know, Rafa had a period there where

1003
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: he went through a little bit of a tough time,

1004
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: couldn't his forehand well anymore, and then all sun bang,

1005
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, next year he's winning three Grand Slams. So

1006
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: every player goes through these drops it's just whether or

1007
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: not you can force your way through them as it positively,

1008
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: and then once it clicks again, you're like, I'm good,

1009
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm good.

1010
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: I will be very curious. Let's revisit this, because I

1011
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: will be very curious if she and again look at

1012
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: Rada Khana when I said she can win matches two

1013
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 2: years ago. Yes, but the difference is Radekanu has weapons.

1014
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: Bradakanu has offense.

1015
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: She's good, she's offensively on the return. I wouldn't say

1016
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: she has weapons.

1017
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: I think she has a I mean she's got a

1018
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: running fourhand on the line weapon. She's got a whippi

1019
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: forehand cross, got wepon. I think I think Radakanu has

1020
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: more weapons in Amanavara.

1021
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: And so for me, the.

1022
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: The I think it's less of a.

1023
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: Slump I would disagree with.

1024
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: To the mean, let's see if Emminavara is back in

1025
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: semis and finals. I think she means she's like a

1026
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: perennial quarter finalist. She's an excellent player. I would kill

1027
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: for her game. She's an awesome check.

1028
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: You would definitely kill.

1029
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely no critique whatsoever of her as a person. But

1030
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: I don't think she is a perennial finalist. I just

1031
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: don't think the level of her game is that high. Well,

1032
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: and I think she over index last. I mean, I

1033
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: think that's the point of it.

1034
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: If we if we're looking at if you're going to

1035
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: compare it to Emma, Emma Varra and Emma Radikano, I

1036
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: think that they arguably play very very similarly. I think

1037
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: they both can. Emma Navara has a big fourhand and

1038
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: her back end down the line is unreal when she

1039
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: hits it. Well, she's not very tall, she's not a

1040
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: big girl.

1041
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: I think they're both about the same size, right.

1042
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: Emma is slightly taller, yeah, and Emma maybe slightly No,

1043
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: I'd say they're about the same body weight. But I

1044
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: would say they play very similarly. It's a matter of

1045
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: taking advantage when you have it. One thing that Emmen

1046
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: Emma Radakanu does really well is particularly a second so

1047
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: she goes through the return. But you know Navarro does

1048
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: that from time time anyway. Look, the bottom line is

1049
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: everything goes through the.

1050
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: Just like you know to me who's play. You know,

1051
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: maybe the peaks are higher and the lowers are lower,

1052
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: but the you know seven is like the classic example

1053
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 2: of this, right, Like at her best day, she's always

1054
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: beating Egost Frantek always. I don't care what the surface is.

1055
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: She should have been here in the French for Open

1056
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: finals because in her best day, Reading just has more weapons. Period.

1057
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: But I could say that with everyone, You could say

1058
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: that for every big hitter, right, Osta Penko should win

1059
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: every match then because she doesn't do anything but gang

1060
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: bust a big big beag on everything.

1061
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean the difference.

1062
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: Tennis is about kitting the ball in the court. Like

1063
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: your high school teacher said, you got a handle like

1064
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: whim for set Likeska shouldn't lose a match, you know,

1065
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: with the weapons that she has. Serena shouldn't have lost

1066
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: a match with the weapons that she had. But tennis

1067
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: is about hitting it in between the white lines.

1068
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: Well, listn't everyone. I think we should leave it there

1069
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: because this has truly been a masterclass in clear core tennis, which,

1070
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: as it turns out, is no more complicated. Then you

1071
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: just got to head it in between the lines.

1072
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: What we're trying, what we actually approved today is that

1073
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: tennis is the hardest sport. It is such a because

1074
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: they literally play on four or five different surfaces, three

1075
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: in particular clay, grass and hardcourt crazy, and then indoors.

1076
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: You have to adjust to all of it.

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00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: They need different shoes, they need different movement, they need

1078
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: different mentalities.

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Speaker 1: And so the great players have proved why they're the

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00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: greatest because they can adjust and play on every surface.

1081
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: And believe me when I tell you, the mindset is

1082
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: completely different on clay to hardcourt and grass. You see

1083
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: the ball, you get an opportunity, you see space on

1084
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: hard court or on grass, you've got to go for it,

1085
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: and if you don't, your opponent will because if you

1086
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: don't hit a big shot on that one shot, like

1087
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: Janick Sinner, that's why he plays so well on a

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00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: hard court. He sees the opportunity, goes bang with the

1089
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: foehand down the line or backhand whatever. On clay, you

1090
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: might see an opportunity, but if you go bang with

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00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: that shot, you're at a position. Oh my god, Now

1092
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: that person can hit a little bit more spin and

1093
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: get you off the court. It's totally different. You cannot

1094
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: go for a return all the time on clay because

1095
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: if you go for it and you're at a position,

1096
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: you're screwed. So there are so many things that you

1097
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: have to calculate in your brain on clay comparative to

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00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: any other court, and you have to be strategic on

1099
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: clay and on hard court strategic to a point. But

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00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: when you have a chance to go for it, you

1101
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: have to. And on clay that is not always the case,

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00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: because if you're at a position, you're screwed. So that's

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00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: why we love this sports.

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Speaker 2: I love it so much.

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00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: All right, we got so much more to get finished

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00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: next week obviously the end of Rome.

1107
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: Let's have it like, let's have some like espressos and

1108
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: some There's a really nice Italian pastry shop right here

1109
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 2: near Rene's apartment. Actually, if anyone's ever been to New

1110
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 2: York City is East Village.

1111
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 1: I thought you're going to tell them my address.

1112
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: It's like veneeras No, my wife Claar used to work

1113
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: at Veneers as a You should bring your little espresso

1114
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: in your little tricolaure rainbow cooking.

1115
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: I was that for the finals of Rome, and so

1116
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: everyone can hear us clinking our little espressos. I will say,

1117
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: if anyone's in Paris, I broke my really favorite coffee

1118
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: mug at the coffee store that I used to go,

1119
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: and it's made me so depressed, and it's the one

1120
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: thing I wish I was in Paris for. So you pick, Yeah, no,

1121
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Paris.

1122
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: Well, let's revisit your favorite mug when we get to Paris,

1123
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: so that everyone can I'll be in Paris probably, I'll picked.

1124
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: Can you pick me up some sure? Right?

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00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 2: Greg? Got it?

1126
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: All right? Guys. Well, Cocoa Gough looking very comfortable out

1127
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: there against Emma Ratacanu. I tell you put a little

1128
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: side bet on Cocoa, love it. I would love that, yeah,

1129
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: because I think she plays really well there. She's played well.

1130
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: Is she gonna have to play against the Sabalanca or

1131
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: an eager Yeah?

1132
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: What a fun matchup that would be Coco Arena, the

1133
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: surface fevers Cocoa, the crowd probably fit arena. Yeah, what

1134
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 2: a fun friendship and final that would be Coco Arena.

1135
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: Oh a Sablanca Yeah yeah, what a cool Mexaco and

1136
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: arena in the arena boom, Yeah, that would be a

1137
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: great find. All right, guys, thanks for listening to our

1138
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 1: non test today. We went on and on today about

1139
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting no.

1140
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: But we weren't deep on clay courts. This is like

1141
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: so important I think for the lead person. This is

1142
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: why the results on these different surfaces are so different.

1143
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just a little homework for you all. When

1144
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: you're watching the clay, watch the players that can't slide.

1145
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: It's very obvious, and see if you can pick up

1146
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: on that and see how you can learn to take

1147
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: advantage of that even in your own little home matches.

1148
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: To finish their efforts. Listen, everyone's out there.

1149
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: If someone can't slide, drop shot them. People get it

1150
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: below the net. They are scrude. And then when they

1151
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: if they get it back, then you just go bop

1152
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: with the lob over their head. Simple tennis, simple.

1153
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:45,959
Speaker 2: Exactly, and hit it in the lines.

1154
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, everyone out there, please like and subscribe

1155
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: our podcast. Okay, that's really important for everyone. Go in there.

1156
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: Don't write anything nasty, because if you do, you're just

1157
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: not a nice person. Like Linda Noskova. Did you see

1158
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: that she put out something on her instagram now day

1159
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: about when she lost her match. People were, of course

1160
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: betting on tennis. Sure, and we talk about this all

1161
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: the time. If you bet on tennis and then you

1162
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: lose on Dennis and then you decide to get on

1163
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: their instagrams and abuse them. You have some serious issues.

1164
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: It's like, imagine me betting on the Kentucky Derby and

1165
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: my horse doesn't ren. I started riding at the horse.

1166
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: Are you yelling at the horse or the jockey? I'm like,

1167
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: you think they meant to lose. Someone was going on

1168
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: about her mom and her mom passed away a year ago.

1169
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: So she wrote something on her Instagram and said, you know,

1170
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: for you that mentioned my mom on Mother's Day when

1171
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: I lost my match. I hope you find empathy in

1172
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: your heart.

1173
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 2: That's a really beautiful man, So true, get a life. Yeah. Also,

1174
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: like you know, it's sitting here, as they call some

1175
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: of these players average. These players are the most elite,

1176
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 2: toughest athletes of any sport pretty much in any context,

1177
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: and what they do is unbelievably difficult. They do it

1178
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 2: basically three unit and sixty five days a year, and

1179
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 2: it's the hardest sport by a mile.

1180
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: And no player, and no player deserves to get any shit,

1181
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: And no player that's losing is leaving the courts going yay,

1182
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: I lost my match. Let's going party now in your No,

1183
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 1: they go in their room, they sit there for two days,

1184
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: they ruminate over the match. They get to press for

1185
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: two days and then finally they you pull them out

1186
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: as a coach and you go, all right, let's go

1187
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: and hit some balls, and you're like and then you

1188
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: think about the shots that you missed in for the

1189
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: first hour of the practice, and then you finally move

1190
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: on with your life.

1191
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 2: It's incredibly top what they do, and very freely. And

1192
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: if you're on the internet as a keyboard worrier, I

1193
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: don't know.

1194
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: But if you are on the keyboard, give us a

1195
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: positive bit, give us a positive room, like it sprite

1196
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: and pass it on to your friends. Choo okay, oh,

1197
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: chow chidama. Next week. I don't know how to say

1198
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: next week in the time, but I know how to

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Speaker 1: say you see you later, all right, chow everybody, babe

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Speaker 2: T