1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of Casual Chaos. 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: This week, I have my most requested guest, Mom. Welcome 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: to Casual Chaos. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, Ji, thanks for having me, and I'm your 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: most requested guest. 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone wants to hear what you have to say. 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. All right, So we're kind of going 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: to go back to the beginning a little bit. Okay, 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: why did you decide to join the housewives? Did you 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: ever question putting your life, marriage and us on TV? 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: No, I mean I think you know. I remember these 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: producers went to the salon in Franklin Lakes called Chateau, 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: and they requested for like, you know, beautiful women with 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: beautiful houses, like over the top lifestyles, and the owner 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: of the salon request The owner of the salon said, 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: I recommend Dina and Jacqueline. So they started out with them. 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: Then Dina recommended me, so they interviewed them. They loved them. 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: Dina recommended me. Jacqueline recommended another friend of hers that 19 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: was beautiful and was really wealthy, and but her husband 20 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: said no, So her husband said now, and then then 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: Jacqueline said, oh my god, you know, maybe that girl 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: Danielle that comes to the salon, she'll be good and 23 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: she ended up being great TV. So she got on 24 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: and then Jackson also recommended her sister in law Caroline, 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: so she got on. And then with me, they you know, 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: they came over the house while we were redoing the 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: house and they interviewed me right there as all three 28 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 2: of you got you know, it was it was you, 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: Gabriella and Milani all walking around the house while the 30 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: house was you know, being real. I mean I would 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: say re renovated. Yeah, So they interviewed us. It was 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: very like easy, like right outside our. 33 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: House, like your normal everyday life. 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: Yes, like it was wasn't done like in the studio 35 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: or they didn't come to the house bring you know, 36 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: all these camera crews, none of that, because I know 37 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: that's how they do it now. So it was just, 38 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: you know, they just talk to us and then I 39 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: guess they're like, oh my god, she's definitely TV gold, 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: you know, and then they chased us like you know, 41 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: the whole family like us because everybody else signed their 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: contract right away and I didn't sign the contract. It 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: was took us. It took me almost a year, and 44 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: all my friends were so over me because I would ask. 45 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: I would call Dina and say, well, do you think 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 2: I really should do this? Or like what is this? 47 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: And Jacqueline and they're oh, like, oh my god, we're 48 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: so over you. Because like I didn't know when I 49 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: was getting you know, I didn't understand this. 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: But why did you have so much hesitation? 51 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't I just didn't know what 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: it was. 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: Like. 54 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: I was like, what, Like I thought it was kind 55 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: of a joke because like never thought that, oh my god, 56 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: that I was going to become this huge reality I 57 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: you know, like or whatever you want to call it 58 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: at that at that time, like a movie star or 59 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: a big TV star. 60 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: You know, like never thought that big TV star. We're 61 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: not in the movies yet. 62 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: I know, but I'm saying, like that's something I would say, 63 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: because you know, when you're on TV, you say a 64 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: movie star, you know, like that's something I say, Yeah, 65 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: that's my language. So I never I didn't know what 66 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: I was getting myself into it really, But then finally 67 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: I was like it wouldn't go away, and they kept 68 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: calling me and calling me and calling me, so I 69 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I guess it's maybe something 70 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: I should try out. So and I was kind of like, 71 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: you were already at think seven or eight, and I 72 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: was doing the same thing every day, so, you know, 73 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: to do the same thing every day, you get bored. 74 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: And I was just like I would love you know, 75 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, they're just going to follow us around doing 76 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: what we normally do, and now we'll get paid for it, 77 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: you know, like going shopping, you know, hanging out with 78 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: my friends. I mean, you know, of course they don't. 79 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't that much, but you know, obviously 80 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: now you know, throughout the years, it built up. Yeah, 81 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: So then I said, yeah, so then, and how I 82 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: signed the contract was so easy that I didn't even 83 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: have a lawyer look at it. Jacqueline was so over me. 84 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: She's like Teresa, She's like, just sign it ready. So 85 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: I signed it. I handed it to her and like 86 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: we were together, and she stuck it in the fedexbox 87 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 2: and that was it. So that's how I signed my 88 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: contracts Oh. 89 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: That's actually a very cute story. 90 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it. 91 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: But it took you a while. 92 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: It took me a while to sign the contract. Yeah, 93 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: I mean, would I do it again? I guess I mean, 94 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't hiding anything. And Daddy was like, see, 95 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: if if Daddy thought he was doing something wrong, he 96 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: would have told me no. So he didn't think he 97 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 2: was doing anything wrong, like really, and. 98 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: But so and those early years of the Real Housewives 99 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: and now having those memories of our family when we 100 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: were younger and you and Dad, it's really nice to 101 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: look back on. It's almost like we have home videos. 102 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: That's what to me is the best part, especially because 103 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: my parents are not you know, no no, no, no, we're 104 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: not here anymore. Like I love seeing that. I do too, 105 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: you know, I just wish it would have been just 106 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: better with them, you know, meaning like you know the 107 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: part you know, of course, you know, with my brother 108 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: and not you know, of course I don't want to 109 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: talk about him, but obviously like better times, you know, I. 110 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: Wish you wish you know, there were better moments of 111 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: your parents shown and not dealing with so much heartache. 112 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: Yes, like you know, I wish there was like, you know, just. 113 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: More more positives, basically showing the true meaning of an 114 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: Italian family. 115 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, like Season one and two were like that, because 116 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: like they were in my cook books and we video 117 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: that and they're part of my you know. Yeah, Like 118 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: I love that you and Nona are on my second cookbook, 119 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: Like we have three generations on my second you know, fabulicious, 120 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: my fabulicious cookbooks. So to me, that's like something that 121 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: I'll always cherish and I'm so happy I got to 122 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: do that, especially because my mom's not here anymore. So 123 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: I love that. 124 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: It was a nice memory. 125 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like the I would have to say 126 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: doing the show, that was the best part of it, 127 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: you know, like the good memories with my parents because 128 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: they're not here anymore. 129 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, And listen, we do have good representation of what 130 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: an Italian family is supposed to be like. I know 131 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't see it all the time, 132 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: but you do say it. You know, Dad's family has shown, 133 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, my sisters and I at least, and you know, 134 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure they've shown you to, you know, what family 135 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: really is supposed to be like and how you're really 136 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: supposed to always have each other's backs and be there 137 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: no matter what, no matter what goes on. And Dad's 138 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: family really does show how you know, the Italian family 139 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: could be so close. 140 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they do, and that's one of the things 141 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: why I wanted to be with your dad because I 142 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: came from a small family and he had such a 143 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: big family. Do you know what I did when I 144 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: first started day and your dad, like his height bothered me. 145 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: He really did. So my dad was a shoemaker, so 146 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: I mean, my dad cut all my heels, so I 147 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: so he wouldn't be taller than me. Did you ever 148 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: know that? I feel like you don't have cut all 149 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: my heels so we would be the same height. 150 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: I mean I feel like I would do the same thing. Yeah, 151 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: because I did not want to be No, that's also 152 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: it's weird. No, But then after we got married, I 153 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: didn't give it anywhere. Yeah, because you were married. I 154 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't want to be taller than my man. 155 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I mean, so now I don't 156 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: have that problem anymore. Now you don't, Loisa, Now you don't. 157 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: What were your first impressions of the original cast members 158 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: of Season one? 159 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: Diana I loved she reminded me always of Pamela Anderson. Yeah, 160 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: this blonde, bombshell sexy, she's so gorgeous, like hot, like yeah, 161 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: that's I used always tell it. I'm with the big 162 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: boobs like hot, smoky, hot, sexy. And then Jacqueline same thing, 163 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: because I'll never forget the first time I met Jacqueline, 164 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, she was hot, like sexy boobs, 165 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: small waists, smoking body, sexy legs, her legs were like 166 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: so hot. 167 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: I feel like you always used to say that when 168 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: when we were younger, that Jacqueline had the best legs. 169 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, she does have sexy legs. Yeah, so yeah, that's 170 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: what you know. This is how I'm describing everyone. Yeah, 171 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: and then there's Danielle. Danielle was let me tell you, 172 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: Danielle was made back like she was TV gold. She 173 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: really was, like she like she was awesome. Just she 174 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: put it all out there, literally put it all out 175 00:08:58,679 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: on the table. 176 00:08:59,360 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 177 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: So I mean I thought she was great and she 178 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: was fun to be around. 179 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: Like she was. 180 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: She was fun and like very easy going, just so 181 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 2: much fun, you know. You know, even though in the beginning, 182 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: like she was like insulting me a little bit. But 183 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: that's what made me flip the table on her, you know, 184 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 2: because she would just like throw these little jabs at me, 185 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: like don't talk to me, like you know, or she 186 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: said to Joe like don't speak to like, don't speak 187 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: to me like you speak to your wife. Yeah, like 188 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: you know, and stuff like that. And then and I'm 189 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: the type I take it. I take it. I take it. 190 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: And then when I don't take it anywhere, you know, 191 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 2: I explode. And that's she saw that. Yeah, yeah, but 192 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: I have to say, but Danielle was so much fun 193 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: like and like, you know, getting to know her, and 194 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: then look, we ended up making up later on anyway. 195 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: And Caroline. I did never hung out with Caroline. Like, 196 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: Caroline was Dina's older sister, so I just kind of 197 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: just respected her because she was Dina's older sister. Yeah, 198 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 2: so and that was it. So that's how you know 199 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: it was with Caroline. And then with Caroline it was 200 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: like we were building a friendship because I really didn't 201 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: hang out with Caroline. I hung out with her sister, Dina, 202 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 2: And that was it. That was the cast. 203 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, who did you immediately know you wouldn't get along with. 204 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: I would say, if I had to pick someone, Caroline, 205 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: But you flipped the table on Danielle. I know. But 206 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: I liked her in the beginning. I did because she 207 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: was just fun. 208 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: But you didn't know if you were gonna like Caroline. 209 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, because she was she was just older. She seemed 210 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: like a little like not my speed. 211 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's fun, you know. 212 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: Like yeah at the time, like she wasn't like I 213 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: didn't hang out with Caroline, you didn't know. Yeah, So 214 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: if I had to pick someone, if you're asking me, 215 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: if I had to, like, if I had to back then, 216 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: if I had to pick if someone asked. 217 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: Me before going into it, if you had to pick someone, 218 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: it would probably be Caroline. 219 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: Correct, got it, because Danielle was fun, like she really was, 220 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: and I like fun people like I like having a 221 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: good time. 222 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: I know you do. What was it like having cameras 223 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: around us for the first time? Did you feel like 224 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: you weren't able to fully be yourself or I actually 225 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: think you were more more yourself? Yeah, totally fine, not 226 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: even more, but you just and I always say this, 227 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: you and Dad were TV gold just because in the 228 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: early years you were so funny and you still are. 229 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: But it's just funny to watch yourself fifteen years ago 230 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: because you know, we were all little. Our family was 231 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: obviously younger, and it was just. 232 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 2: Cute little you were little, like it was. 233 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: It was just yeah, it was fifteen years ago. You 234 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: looked younger. We were all little. 235 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: Oh, I feel like I look I look at pictures 236 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: of how my ice to do my hair and makeup 237 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: back then. I feel like I look so much better now, 238 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: even though I'm older. I feel like I like my 239 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: hair makes different. 240 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: You barely war makeup first of all in season one 241 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: or two, literally nothing, and you just embraced your natural 242 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: Italian beauty. You wore your hair curly, and I love 243 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: your hair curly like you, it was it was just natural. 244 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: You really didn't do much. That was the thing. You 245 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: didn't do anything. I just that's why it's so cute too. 246 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: I would always make sure you and your sisters look perfect, 247 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: but you and then with me, I would just get 248 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: very quick. 249 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: You know. No, I listen when I look back at 250 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: old photos. I love you and Dad's engagement photos. I 251 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: love the photos of you guys riding your bike in 252 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: the park. Who takes photos like that anymore? No one. 253 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: I want a vintage camera and to take photos like 254 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: my mom and dad. 255 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: Dad was me. That was my doing your dad. 256 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but those photos and just the way you guys looked, 257 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: it was just perfect. But I don't know you have 258 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: a camera. You could do the same thing. Talus shouldn't 259 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: have bike me around the park. No, but I don't know. 260 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: It was just Dad was so unfiltered. Actually he said 261 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: whatever came to his mind, and he still does. But 262 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: that's why people loved him because he didn't think before 263 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: he He didn't think before he spoke. He just said 264 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: it and it was so real. And I feel as 265 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: though you and Dad changed nothing going into the show. 266 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: It was how we were every day. 267 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 268 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: What was it like in New Jersey when Housewives first aired? 269 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: How did you handle it? Did anything change around town? 270 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: No? I mean you know what changed? The only thing 271 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: that changed when it aired that everybody was like, oh 272 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: my god. They were like loving me, and they wanted 273 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 2: to take a picture with me. I'm like a picture. 274 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: I was like okay. I was like all right, So 275 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 2: that's what changed, Like people noticing me and wanted to 276 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: take a picure. Sure? 277 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: And did you like that or was that a little overwhelming? 278 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: At first? 279 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 2: I didn't mind it. It was just when I had 280 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: when I was with you girls, like when I had 281 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: when you girls are with me Milania, Like Milani would 282 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: if I took a picture, she would take off on 283 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: me and then I'm like, oh my god, I have 284 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: to have real quick. I'm I have to you have 285 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: to get my kid, you know. Yeah, because Milani would 286 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: just take off on me. She would not stay next 287 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: to me. And that's the only time I got overwhelmed, 288 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: like I got nervous because I didn't want Milania to, like, 289 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: you know, go for ba, you know, somebody take her 290 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: or something. 291 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: Or a fan actually brought Malania back to our family 292 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: in Disney. 293 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: Oh and Disney. She ran away. 294 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god. She wanted this doll and she wouldn't 295 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: stop until she got this doll. 296 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: I would lost her for two minutes. 297 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: It was two minutes, no scarious, two minutes. 298 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: I felt like a lifetime. 299 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were taking pictures with the princesses. She wanted 300 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: this doll, so she ran. 301 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: I didn't know she went that, she just left us 302 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: and then she went and she was like outside, you know, 303 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: and she grabbed the doll. 304 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: She ran out of the store with the doll. And 305 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: thank god a fan recognized us, because we were we 306 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: were going crazy looking for her, going crazy looking for her, 307 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: and the fan brings Melania back. We were like, what 308 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: did we have to give you? We owe you. 309 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: Everything, I was so scared. 310 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: That was I don't think we've not we haven't been 311 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: back to Disney since. When did you find out about 312 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: the charges against you and dad? And what were the 313 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: talks with Bravo when all that was happening. 314 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: Oh that's I think that's been so long ago. 315 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: It was ten years ago you got out of. 316 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: I mean, listen when it all happened. I was, I didn't. 317 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: It was like I didn't know. I thought it was 318 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: all a joke, like for me anyway, like with your 319 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: father there, I mean, you know, with your father, I 320 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: was like I didn't. I'm like, obviously I knew, you know, 321 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: for the government to come knocking on your door, there 322 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: was something going on, you know. And I remember them 323 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: come knocking on the door and I'm like all right. 324 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: They're like, it is your husband home. I said no, 325 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: and they're like, all right, we're gonna wait for him. 326 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: I said, okay. 327 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: And then where were we? 328 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: I don't even know. I think you were maybe at school. 329 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: I don't even remember if you guys were there. I 330 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: was like okay, Like I was like, okay, no, Prama. 331 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: I called him, like, Joe, these guys are here wait 332 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: for you. I was like a right, And then I said, 333 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: they said they're gonna wait for you said okay, and 334 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: that was it and he came home and I think 335 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: you talked to him. Yeah, I mean I was never 336 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: I was never arrested, never handcuffed, never shackled. 337 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: See, thank you guy. 338 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: At least you know that was one good, good thing. 339 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: You know. I have to say, like, yeah, your father 340 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: and I, that never happened. I don't know what happened 341 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: to your father when he went to prison, but with me, 342 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: none of that happened. 343 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: You know. 344 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: You would have to ask your father, you know what 345 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: they you know, if they shackled him because he was 346 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 2: I think maybe in a higher security I. 347 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: Think they might have, especially because he was he was 348 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: transported a lot of times. 349 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that never happened with me. So and thank 350 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: god for that because I know I'm not a criminal, 351 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: and that would have like I wouldn't have been happy 352 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 2: with that. And yeah, so I was just like what 353 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: And I recently found out now that I thought I 354 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: bought a house, I bought it. I thought I bought 355 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: two houses. Because I really wasn't really paying attention to 356 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 2: the whole thing. I guess stupid of me but not 357 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: really because I really didn't wasn't involved in your father's business. 358 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: So I thought it was all a joke, and I 359 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: was like, what what's going I didn't, like, I never 360 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: was involved in so I didn't know what the hell 361 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: was going on. And I was like, all right, So 362 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: they're like, you have to get a lawyer. So I 363 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: was like, all right, I couldn't use his lawyer. I'm like, 364 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: all right, Joe, get me a lawyer. Then, I mean, 365 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 2: and so I had to get my own lawyer. And 366 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: then I thought my lawyer, I mean, my lawyer was 367 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: so expensive, and I thought my lawyer of course, was 368 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: going to have my back. Me and my lawyer did 369 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 2: not get along because yeah, I mean, I feel like 370 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: with all that, I feel like they're already they already 371 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: know what's going to happen, and especially if you're in 372 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 2: the public eye, they make an example out of you. 373 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: And now now I know it all Like back then, 374 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: like I never thought I was going to go to 375 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: jail ever, like in a million years. Like if you 376 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: would have said I'm going to shoot you right now, 377 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: do you think you're going to go to jail? Yes 378 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 2: or no? I'd be like, no, shoot me because I'm 379 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: not going to go to jail. Like never in a 380 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: million zillions, I would have like never thought that because 381 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: I didn't do anything. So I was like, all right, 382 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: like I'm not involved in my husband's business. I didn't 383 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: do anything wrong. So I was really cocky about it. 384 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: I really was. 385 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 2: I was like, I didn't do anything wrong. So I mean, 386 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: I guess we have to like I don't know what, 387 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: they just have to do their investigation and find out 388 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: what happened. And I was fine with it, and so 389 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 2: I cooperated. I did whatever they told me to do, 390 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: and you know, obviously whatever your faus. And then I 391 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: just found out recently, I thought I because I just 392 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: went to a closing. I went to a lawyer's office. 393 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: I went to a closing, and I put my John 394 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: Hancock on papers. That was it. So that's what I did. 395 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: And then I thought I bought. I thought he used 396 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: my credit to because he was at the time he 397 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: was flipping homes, so I thought I bought a house 398 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: or two houses or whatever. And I just asked him recently, 399 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: and you know, I don't know if you heard me 400 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: asking them the other day, and I was like, he said, 401 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: he said tree heed to call me Tree. He's like, 402 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 2: I'm like, what did I do buy? How many houses? 403 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: Did I buy? One or two? He's like, you don't 404 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: even buy a house. 405 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: Tree. 406 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: He's like, we refinanced a property I had, And I 407 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 2: was like what. I'm like, I went to jail for 408 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: refinancing a house. I'm like, are you kidding me? I'm like, 409 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm like, why did you make me 410 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: sign those papers? That day? I'm like, OK, gonna, I'm like, 411 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, are you serious? So that's what I went 412 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 2: to jail for because I rEFInd And the reason why 413 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: I went to jail is because I put my johnt 414 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: my signature on papers that were like not like whatever 415 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: numbers were on those papers were incorrect. Like that's that's 416 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: that's considered fraud. From now on, never signed papers unless 417 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: you know you know what you're signing. You know, also learned, Yeah, 418 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: I mean like you know, and it's great. It's better 419 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 2: like when you get paid by a check, like or 420 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 2: if you work for a company, you get paid by 421 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: check because everything is like on the books exactly. So 422 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 2: like with Daddy, he was doing construction, it was different, 423 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 2: you know, so and then you know what upsets me 424 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: the most is that Daddy had a partner and and 425 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: I don't know why I went to jail and his 426 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 2: partner didn't, so read between the lines. Yeah, yeah, So 427 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: that's what upsets me because I would have been kind 428 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: of fine if both, if all three of us would 429 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: have went to jail. That would have made me feel 430 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: better because he had a partner and a lot of properties, 431 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: a lot of them. And I know that, I know 432 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: because you know. And then for me to go to 433 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: jail signing, you know, like a refinanced property is so 434 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 2: sad and you know, and then leaving you, And what 435 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: hurt me the most is leaving the four of you 436 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 2: like for almost a year. 437 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was definitely like that, you know. 438 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: And what kept me saying was that I was I 439 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: knew my parents were going to be with you guys, 440 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I was like, that was 441 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 2: the only thing that kept me good. I was like, 442 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: my parents are going to be with them, and I 443 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 2: want and I told my parents to speak Italian to 444 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: them every day so I want them to learn Italian. 445 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: And I was like, I knew you guys would never 446 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: forget them because they were with you that whole year 447 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: and then look, I come home and then eight months later, 448 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: I lose my mom and that's when I was like, 449 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: so over your father. I was like, that's when I 450 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: after I lost my mom, was like, I'm never going 451 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: to be with this guy ever again. Like I kept 452 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: fighting for him, but I knew I was not going 453 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 2: to be with him anymore because I was just so 454 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: mad because I felt like I missed out with my 455 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: mom going away, and I'm like, if I was home 456 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: that year, I could have been with my mom. So 457 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: I felt like I missed out time with her, which 458 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: I did. 459 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that I mean Also, that whole process for 460 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: sure just made non No suffer. She was so upset and. 461 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 2: They were so distraught over the whole thing. And then 462 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 2: I just kept reassuring them and I kept telling and 463 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: I was okay. And I really was okay because I'm very, 464 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 2: very strong, and I knew in my heart, like I 465 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: was like, really, God, I really would talk to God 466 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 2: every single day. I'd be like, why am I here? 467 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 2: Tell me why I am here? I'm like, why am 468 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 2: I here? I mean, and I have to say being 469 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: at I was in Danbury, Connecticut, you remember, because I 470 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: mean the grounds were beautiful because I saw all four 471 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: seasons while I was there, and I worked. 472 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: Out you see the four seasons here? 473 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: No I know, but I'm saying. When I was there, 474 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: I was outside a lot, so I used to walk 475 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 2: the track a lot. And then then you know what 476 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: happened to then because everyone knew I was there, so 477 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: sometimes we would have to get there would be helicopters 478 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: outside trying to take my picture, so then we would 479 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 2: get stuck, and then everybody would not be able to 480 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: go outside, and then all the some of the girls 481 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: and they would be pissed at me. I'm like, not 482 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: my fault. You know that. You know there's helicopters trying 483 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: to take my picture, and I'm like, I want to 484 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: be outside too. Anyway, that was the best part. It 485 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: was like seeing how the season's changed. It looked really 486 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: pretty outside because I because that's how who I am. 487 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: I always try to make something a bad situation into 488 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: a good situation. I don't know, yes you do. So 489 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: I was to make a light out of everything. So 490 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, there's a reason why 491 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: I have to be here. I don't know it right now. 492 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 2: I guess I'm like, really got to just tell me why. 493 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 2: I don't need to know the answers eventually. Sometimes you 494 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 2: doesn't give you an answer right away, you find out 495 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: years later. So anyway, but yeah, I ended up that 496 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 2: was the best part of seeing the four seasons. But 497 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: I just worked out every single day. I got in 498 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: the sickest shape you hold. 499 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: You won the contest for a plank? She held a 500 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: ten minute plank in camp. 501 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I did a ten minute and I won out 502 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: of like. 503 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: They had like a plank contest in their fitness class and. 504 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: Outside like the whole the whole camp was you know. 505 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: The whole camp did this competition. 506 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 2: Whoever wanted to participate, whoever wanted to do so. 507 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: How many people were you competing against? 508 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: There was a lot, there was a lot, and I, yeah, 509 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: I won ten minutes. 510 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Can you imagine holding a ten minute blank murder? Yeah, 511 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: I can't do God scrimin all. 512 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: I can't do a ten minute plank anymore. 513 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did one today when we were working out, 514 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: and then as we're holding our plank today, she looks 515 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: up and goes, I held I held one for ten 516 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: minutes in present. 517 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't do that anymore. 518 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: Do you and did you blame Dad for all of this? 519 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: Of course, yes, I'm like, I just I still blame 520 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: Like the other day, I was Jehann and I'm like, 521 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 2: why do you even make me sign those papers? 522 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: You know? Do you think you've really worked through the resentment? No, 523 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: just because No, she's always going to help my dad. 524 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: I was like, actually, yes, I was always going to 525 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: help my dad. I was, so, I don't think there'll 526 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: ever be a phone call where my mom doesn't yelp 527 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: my dad. Yeah, it'll be so normal. You know. Sometimes 528 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: if my mom's in rare form and I walk into 529 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: the house and my dad's on the phone, I literally 530 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: could just tell by like her demeanor, and I'll be like, okay, Dad, 531 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: I'll call you back because she's just gonna start yelling 532 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: at you. And then I the phone. 533 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 2: He just irks me. 534 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: He just irks me. 535 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he does. 536 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: They'll be like they're and the thing they're almost like 537 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: as weird as it sounds. 538 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 2: Like, No, this is the thing. No, it's that weird. No, 539 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 2: And like I hate to say this, Well it's the truth. 540 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 2: I enough people know this, but like I hate, not 541 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: that I hate. I mean, obviously there's no he has 542 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: no control over it. I don't like I wish things were 543 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: different that, you know, I wish he was helping me more, 544 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: you know. So it's like everything's on me. 545 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: And well even just him being in a different country, 546 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: that his presence not being in the States and not 547 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: being around just puts all the parenting on you. 548 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that and financially, yeah, you know. So it's it's 549 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 2: a double whammy. Yeah, yeah, just like Teresa all the 550 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: way around, you know. You know, so it's like that's 551 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 2: what that's why it irks me, just because yeah, everything's 552 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: on me parenting wise. You're right, I didn't even think 553 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: about the parenting, because the parenting I have no problem 554 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: doing because I love you girls. 555 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: You girls are and he he tries his best. Again, 556 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: it's hard. There's only so much you could do over 557 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: a phone, and he knows that. That's why he gets frustrated. 558 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: It's all very frustrating. Stop, it's all very frustrating. But 559 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 1: obviously if he was able to be back in the States, 560 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: things would be a lot different and it would help 561 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: you out a lot more. 562 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why it's like everything's on me. So yeah, 563 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: so that's why. 564 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: It's why you should have just major citizenship right and 565 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: that's why he Oh no, this is how he should 566 00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: have gotten. 567 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely become a citizen if. 568 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're not, you're doing some construction work and 569 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: you're not us, go get your citizenship right now. 570 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: Definitely do that and make sure you do everything right. 571 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: Cross every tea, not every eye, like who wants not 572 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: worth it? 573 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: Who wants to take shortcuts? It's yeah, definitely not worth it. 574 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: And definitely don't make your you. 575 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: Know, someone you love sign something, Yes, definitely not because 576 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: I mean it is true. You know you love someone 577 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: so much they tell you to sign a paperwork. You 578 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: never think that your partner's going to steer you wrong, 579 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: especially when you're you know, in love, you have kids, 580 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: you're building a family. You really don't think that. And 581 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that was my dad AND's my dad's intentions. 582 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: My dad never wanted to hurt my mother, and he 583 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: even said it in court. Please don't do anything to 584 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: my wife, like I will take full responsibility for this, 585 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: I will do double time for her everything. 586 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: But no, he didn't do that at first, like he didn't. 587 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: He really didn't like because because he didn't never thought 588 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: that I would get in trouble. He's like, you didn't 589 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 2: even do anything. And then afterwards he's like, he's like, 590 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: they want you more than they want me. That's what 591 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 2: he said. He's like, because we were on TV and 592 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck? And I was like, 593 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: I didn't even do anything. It was so like that. 594 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I think everyone was processing things in this moment. Yeah, 595 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: So then I mean, at that point, you know, kind 596 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: of what my mom said before, you know, they really 597 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: they were really targeting our family, and you know as 598 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: well as you know, we were being targeted. But my 599 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: family did learn many lessons from this, Like my mom 600 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: just said, my father has learned so many lessons from 601 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: all of this, and you know, not for nothing, my 602 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: dad has to deal with that remorse and guilt for 603 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: the rest of his life that he isn't with his kids. 604 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: You know, his marriage fell apart, there were multiple things 605 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: that went wrong. Know, he missed the death of my 606 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: no no, no no, he which he was extremely close to 607 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: my mom's parents. So there were many things that my 608 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: father has missed, endless holidays, birthdays, graduations, yeah, just high school, college, 609 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: just a lot. So he deals with that remorse and 610 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: Gil every day. And you know, my mom deals with 611 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: the brunt of you know, being with my sisters and 612 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: I and raising my sisters, and she does such an 613 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 1: amazing job and supporting us. So it really is a 614 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,479 Speaker 1: lot on all ends. And I think you know, you 615 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: both you both deal with a lot from it, and 616 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: you both have definitely learned a lot from the whole thing. 617 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: You know, you go through things in life for a reason, 618 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: and this situation definitely taught us a lot of lessons. 619 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't want you to ever sign any unless. 620 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: She always says to me, don't sign. Don't sign anything 621 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: she goes. You know, you know everything Christian does, right, 622 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: everything's good. Right, I'm like, no, my thing is you know, 623 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: but my mom always if. 624 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: Your partner gets paid by check, then you're safe because 625 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: there's like you can't fuck that up. You really can't. 626 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and hire a good account and. 627 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: Yes, and hire a good account and yes, that's the 628 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: best thing. 629 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: But financial advisor, anything you need. I got all my 630 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: I got all my duck now is the thing. 631 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: I had the best credit, Like, my credit was over 632 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: eight hundred and I remember my mother. 633 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: I paid my credit card all on time. Every single 634 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: Mom micro. 635 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: Is on I had the best and my mother and 636 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: then I remember I told my mother, I'm like, I 637 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 2: just you know, I went to a closing because I 638 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: think my mom had to watch you guys. And then 639 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: she's like, well, and then she said, to make sure 640 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: he pay it, and I said, of course he's going 641 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: to pay it. You know, I think I told her 642 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 2: I bought a house. I didn't even know what freaking 643 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: refinance was back then. I didn't. That's the thing. I 644 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: was really a housewife. I really wasn't. In he took 645 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 2: care of everything. I never took care. I didn't pay 646 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: any I mean, if anything, maybe once in a while 647 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 2: if he told me to pay a bill, but he 648 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: had you know, he had a secretary, so you know, 649 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: he he handled everything. Yeah, back when I had the kids. 650 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: Maybe I think when I first like got married to him, 651 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: and maybe like in the beginning, but when we moved 652 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: to our house and you know, our house in an 653 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: Indian lane, like he had a secretary and his secretary 654 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: would take care of everything. So I remember my mother saying, 655 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: making sure he pay every month, and I said, of course, 656 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: because my mom's like, you have your credits amazing, and 657 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: like even like my mom said that to me. Like, see, 658 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: moms always now, I always say that whatever anything that 659 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: your mom always says, your mom's always right. So anything 660 00:32:52,600 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 2: I ever tell you, I'm always right, I know it's true. 661 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: So then obviously Dad got deported, and at that point 662 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: you knew, I mean even before then, you knew that 663 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: the marriage was kind of over. But do you think 664 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: if he didn't get deported, you guys would work You 665 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: guys would have worked it out. 666 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: Probably not, because I lost my mom and I was 667 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 2: just so like it, you know, still bothers me till 668 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: today that, like I had to go through that. Yeah, 669 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 2: and it was his fall. 670 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: And then how did he react when you told him 671 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: that you were getting remarried? 672 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: He was, he was fine with it. What's he gonna do? 673 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the all of it was on 674 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: TV when I actually saw him for the first time. 675 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you didn't tell him none, you're getting remarried. 676 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: Oh no. 677 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 2: But when I actually everyone could tell that I was 678 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: just not in love with him anywhere. Yeah, because it 679 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: happened on TV. It really actually happened on TEA. And 680 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if anybody even knows it 681 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: at the time, Adriana like, he stayed in my room 682 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 2: like you you girls were supposed to have your own room. 683 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 2: So you know, all four used to sleep in one 684 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: bed and to sleep in another bed. And we were 685 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 2: in Italy because that's the first time we saw him. 686 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 2: And do you know, Adriana would not leave my side, 687 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: so Adriana slept with me. She wouldn't leave me. And 688 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: Adriana at the time we figured this out the other 689 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 2: like we were talking about this, she was like nine, 690 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: I think nine right when daddy because when Daddy left 691 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: she was six, so she was almost ten. She was 692 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 2: between nine and ten. And Audrina didn't leave me, so 693 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: she slept with me and Daddy slept on the couch. 694 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: And then that morning, like the first night he comes in, 695 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 2: lays on top of me. I'm just telling you this. 696 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 2: He comes to Lane's on top of me and he's 697 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: trying to kiss me, but Audrina is right next to 698 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: me sleeping, and I'm like, I'm like, and he's trying 699 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 2: to kiss me, and I won't open my lips, I 700 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 2: won't open my mouth, like I'm just I'm like, can 701 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: you get off of me? Like I want to right 702 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: next to us, And then he got off of me, 703 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 2: but like we had, you know, have pajamas on here. 704 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: You know. 705 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: He was just trying to like give me, try to 706 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: like see if my juices were going to start like 707 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 2: getting like I don't know, like he was he like, 708 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: I guess you wanted to see if like I was 709 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: gonna be like I was like like get heavy for him, 710 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: but not I was like, get off me. And that 711 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 2: was it. But that's when I knew, Like I'm just 712 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 2: saying like that even for myself to see if it 713 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: was going to happen and did it was my juices 714 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 2: were gonna start. Yeah, I'm just telling you. I'm telling 715 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: you everything. You know, we're shooting the breeze, shooting the shooting. 716 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: The shooting the breeze. Now you're shooting. 717 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know what I'm telling you. These are 718 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: lessons that I'm just telling you, like from when you 719 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: get older. 720 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So if my juices aren't flowing anymore, I'll not 721 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: to leave them. 722 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 2: Yes exactly, Yeah, and you should and I would hope. 723 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, and life's too short to for your juices 724 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: not to be flowing. Okay. 725 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, So how's Dad's relationship with Lily? 726 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 2: What we all know. It's it's they get along great. 727 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad calls him loom. 728 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: They talk, they chat, they talk more. 729 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: Than like, well, they talk more than my Well, please 730 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: you yell at him. 731 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to. I don't want to talk to 732 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: him either. 733 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:38,959 Speaker 1: Good. 734 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Louis and him talk all the time. We don't. 735 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to talk to him. 736 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, like he just she just yells at him. The 737 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: guy doesn't want to yell dot well, because the thing 738 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: is it'll be starting good and then it'll just take 739 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: a tart. And he's like, oh, yeah, I guess because 740 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: like I said, I have a of resentment towards him. 741 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: And that's fine, going to jail, parenting by myself, financially 742 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 2: doing everything by myself. Like if I had help with 743 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: one of those, maybe I would be a little bit nicer. 744 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 2: So if i'm I have a reason to. 745 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: Be he takes there's a reason, like he doesn't take it. 746 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a reason why I'm. 747 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine, but. 748 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: You know, I'm grateful to God that I'm able to 749 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: do it all. 750 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: Thank you God. 751 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 2: No, really, because now I'm really That's why I pray 752 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: to God a lot and God, you know, it's good 753 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 2: to have faith, and it's good to have God in 754 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 2: your life because I don't have. I feel like I 755 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 2: don't have my parents anymore, and I feel like, besides, 756 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 2: I'm grateful for my four daughters. 757 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: I don't say you're an orphan. I do feel like 758 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: I'm an orphan. 759 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 2: So at least I have God and I feel like 760 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 2: he could help and protect me. 761 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 1: You know you're not an orphan. 762 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 2: I do, but it's okay. You know, but my parents 763 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 2: and I anywhere, so it's like I really have no 764 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 2: one to turn to. 765 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: You, I really have us. Thank you. 766 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 2: Well, I would never ask. I don't want to help 767 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: ask you guys for help. And Louie he's amazing. But 768 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 2: it's good to pray to whatever guy you're into. Missy, 769 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: start coming to church with me. I know, yes, I will. 770 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: Okay. How do you think dad feels about us living 771 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: with Louis and being so involved in our life. I 772 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: feel like he's very grateful. 773 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I think at first, well you would know that 774 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 2: more than because you're really close to your dad, So 775 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 2: I think at first he might have maybe he was 776 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 2: like a little jealous. 777 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: How did you know Louis was the one? And did 778 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: he know who you were before you met. 779 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 2: Okay, when I first met him on Babylod walking, everyone 780 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 2: knows the story. We could, okay, get so I would 781 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 2: say when I met him walking, he was with his son. 782 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 2: So when I met him, he was with his son. 783 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 2: Louis said he didn't know who I was at first. 784 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 2: His son told him so the same day I met him, 785 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 2: like afterwards, like after he you know, when I first 786 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 2: went up to him, he didn't know who I was. 787 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 2: And then afterwards his son said, Dad, do you know 788 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 2: who that was? That was Teresa? I guess was new. 789 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 2: And then then afterwards they were talking whatever. Then he 790 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: came up to me and my two girlfriends and then 791 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 2: he said, well can I can I have your number? Teresa? 792 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 2: And he drove up to us and he said, my 793 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: son wanted to know why and asked for your number, Teresa. 794 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 2: And then that's how I knew he liked me because 795 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 2: there were three of us, so I didn't know. And 796 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 2: then I was so embarrassed. I turned up probably a 797 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 2: few few colors now I turned red now because I 798 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 2: was embarrassed. And then it was Louis was driving, and 799 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 2: then little Louis with his girlfriend were in the back 800 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 2: I little Louis with his ex girlf ohe you with 801 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 2: this little Louis with his ex girl. We're in the 802 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 2: back seat. And then I was embarrassed, so I said 803 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 2: to him, well, I have your business card. I'll text you. 804 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 2: I love that, And that was it. Yeah, because I 805 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 2: didn't I felt weird giving him him my number because 806 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 2: the son was there. So I was embarrassed, you know. 807 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: So I said, you gave me no, but that's nice. 808 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: That's hard to get. Yeah, and I like that line. 809 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: And then he and then he said that his thumb 810 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: was making fun of him. 811 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 2: He's like, ah, she didn't give you her number, you know, 812 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 2: because make it fun because I didn't give my number. 813 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: And then afterwards, as we're walking, Dana takes my phone 814 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 2: and she's like, I'm texting him right now, and then 815 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: she texted him my phone number. And then that night 816 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 2: we talked all night on the phone and Adele was 817 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 2: with me, so she made me ask him fifty questions. 818 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, he's never gonna call 819 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 2: me again, like she made me. She literally wrote down 820 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 2: fifty questions and made me ask I was like, oh 821 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 2: my god, this guy's never gonna call me again. He's 822 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 2: gonna think I'm like, a what job, you know, and 823 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 2: she's like, no, it's good you We'll get to know him. 824 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 2: I was like all right, so and so I did. 825 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: An Adel was there listening to the conversa. Oh yeah, 826 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: she was. Yeah, she stepped over and we asked him 827 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: fifty questions and then guess what happened was the next 828 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: night he asked you fifty yeah, and then he said, well, 829 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 2: I wrote down questions and then he asked me, and 830 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: you know what I have to say. It was kind 831 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 2: of cute because we kind of got to know each 832 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 2: other better, you know, and we were on the phone hours. Yeah, 833 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 2: and then that was Saturday. Then wait, Saturday, then Sunday night. 834 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,439 Speaker 2: Then Sunday night, I went to the white party with you. 835 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 2: So that was that. And then Monday morning he came down. 836 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: We went for a walk and her other boyfriend got 837 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: kicked out of the house. 838 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 2: No, don't say that, I don't say that. 839 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: Don't say that said that or any you tried to 840 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: make it a secret. 841 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 2: I mean what I talked about this, Yeah. 842 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: And it was very obvious. So then he left that 843 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: night and never returned. 844 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 2: Well, that was the first time you have ever saw 845 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 2: those was wading the second. 846 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: Time he saw him, Yeah, and he never came back. 847 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 2: He was a friend. 848 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: He never came back. The friend was exiled from the group. 849 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a friend. 850 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: I see. 851 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: Time was up. 852 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right ahead, it for a long enough. 853 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know a nice person. 854 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: Great, So how did you know Louis was the one? 855 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? And then Monday morning Louis came. 856 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: Okay, this isn't how you knew Louis was the one? 857 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I'm saying that Monday morning lou came. 858 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 2: That sure, we went for our first walk and then 859 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 2: he set me flowers. And then that's when you guys 860 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: knew that I was seeing someone. 861 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, because the flowers were like as big as the table. 862 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,720 Speaker 1: The bouquet was bigger than the table. 863 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 2: Right, So that's when you guys knew I was seeing someone? 864 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: Really? That was yeah, so we the fling she tried. 865 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: Then this is when we knew things were getting serious. 866 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the fling was just a friend. 867 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, and very nice person. 868 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 2: I'm not saying yeah, and that was it. It was 869 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,399 Speaker 2: just it was not right. 870 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, just like we know, make sure to listen to 871 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: part two of this episode with my momm