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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and all coop of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I never told your production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome. If you're listening on a Friday to a feminist movie,

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Speaker 2: Friday to whatever day you're listening, this is one of

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Speaker 2: those that very close in line when it comes to

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Speaker 2: being a feminist movie. I would say, do you think

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Speaker 2: this does this passpectel? I think so spechtl test because

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Speaker 2: there's only four characters for Slash five t Slash six

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Speaker 2: and a half, and two of those are women, so

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Speaker 2: that you know the conversation is like okay, But I

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Speaker 2: think the second one really does hold to like a

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Speaker 2: little more feminist empowerment. This is a setup for it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about the third one. Teasing, but before

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Speaker 2: we start, spoiler alert because I think we're still in

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Speaker 2: that range. Are we still in that range that we

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Speaker 2: had to do spoiler alert? Yeah, so spoiler alert if

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Speaker 2: you've not watched this movie. As well as content warning

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Speaker 2: of death, horror, aliens, childbirth. Yeah, yeah, some gruesome scenes

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Speaker 2: and as per usual, we wanted to take some time

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Speaker 2: to talk about a film we enjoyed and now has

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Speaker 2: gotten two additions to the Now series, including the newly

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Speaker 2: released A Quiet Place Day one, So yes, obviously we're

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Speaker 2: talking about A Quiet Place. Yes, point Blake again spoilers

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Speaker 2: since it is within that ten year mark. But if

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Speaker 2: you're a fan of these series or movies like these,

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Speaker 2: I have a feeling you've already seen this. So not

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Speaker 2: it's on Paramount Plus not a sponsor at this time.

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Speaker 2: So the twenty eighteen movie A Quiet Place was a

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Speaker 2: huge hit, and it was John Christis. He's a first

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Speaker 2: directorial debut. Annie and I had a hilarious exchange where

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Speaker 2: we mixed up to movies about John Krasinsky and we're like, what, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we cigared it out. But with that, the movie made

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Speaker 2: headlines for several reasons, and one including the fact that

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Speaker 2: they cast an actual deaf actress as one of the

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Speaker 2: main characters, Melicent Simmons, and Simmons was celebrated for her

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Speaker 2: incredible acting as well as leadership and providing help and

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Speaker 2: information to Krasinski and the rest of the team.

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Speaker 1: Right here's a quote from slashfilm dot com. A Quiet

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Speaker 1: Place's most revolutionary element is the casting of Simmons as Reagan.

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Speaker 1: It's unfortunate that the hiring of an actress with the

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Speaker 1: same disability as her character is considered a rarity, but

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Speaker 1: when barely five percent of disabled characters are written and

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Speaker 1: nearly one hundred percent of them are portrayed by able

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Speaker 1: bodied actors, it's important to highlight Simmons actually taught the

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Speaker 1: cast how to use sign language and her ability to

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Speaker 1: simply illustrate that her disability is an average part of

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Speaker 1: her life is amazing. Creating a character who exists on

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Speaker 1: another great example of why casting disabled actors is so vital.

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Speaker 2: Right again, they took a lot of advice from her.

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Speaker 2: I hope she got paid extra for teaching and helping

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Speaker 2: of that. So oh, she got paid. So the film

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Speaker 2: was a hit over all and was critically acclaimed. The

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Speaker 2: movie was nominated for several awards, including Academy Awards and

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Speaker 2: horror movie and many others. So we're going to jump

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Speaker 2: right into the plot. You ready, let's go. So the

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Speaker 2: movie begins with a family of five walking to get supplies.

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Speaker 2: We are introduced to the abbots father Leebbit played by

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Speaker 2: The movie is fairly quiet throughout due to the alien invasion.

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Speaker 2: The end, it's a pretty bad scene because you see

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Speaker 2: and that's where we end. Yes, So obviously there's this

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Speaker 2: So of course or why not? So within that I

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Speaker 2: Even with the round sandwich is what we have. But

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's really comical because I mean it's incredibly effective.

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Speaker 1: The comical part is I went saw this in theaters

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Speaker 2: So it sounds like you wouldn't survive. No, nobody really

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Speaker 2: you have to vomit? Like you're not quiet quietly like

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Speaker 2: high silent concept gives the film a unique aura of suspense.

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Speaker 2: You like, the characters are constantly flinching at every small noise.

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Speaker 2: It also gives the actors a chance to project emotion

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Speaker 2: Simon's a deaf actor who just about steals a film

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Speaker 2: from the Peter. The stars playing our parents Evelyn, Emily

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Speaker 2: Blunt and Lee Krasinski, which, by the way, Krasinsky, that

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Speaker 2: as like a fear based like embarrassment based, yes, like

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel like a silence. The silence was

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Speaker 3: It felt very oppressive, It felt very like.

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Speaker 1: It did make you look for any kind of thing

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Speaker 1: and what would that mean if you had to really

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Speaker 2: The new film, we know there's a cat involved, and

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Speaker 2: I constantly always thought if my if I was in

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Speaker 2: Yes, they deal with a baby. They do a great

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Speaker 2: Reagan's disability is never seen as a detriment in comparison

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Speaker 1: this stuff.

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Speaker 3: But the first time I saw it, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that sounds like a risk.

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Speaker 1: My friend right right, really concerned about this, and I

436
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Speaker 1: think they put I'm pretty sure I read about this.

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Speaker 1: They had that birthing scene because they knew it would

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Speaker 1: be so intense of how she's not able to scream,

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Speaker 1: and it's like clearly very painful.

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Speaker 3: She stepped on this nail, like the tension is just

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Speaker 3: over the top and that. But yeah, it I was

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Speaker 3: thinking about it. I was like, oh no, yeah, it

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Speaker 3: felt like a taking time.

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Speaker 2: Well it is obviously, yeah, again it falls into the

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Speaker 2: second movie, but I yeah, I think it's interesting, like

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Speaker 2: they still like in the midst of this moment, she's

447
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Speaker 2: still trying to keep our family together while being pregnant. Again,

448
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: my mind went through everything of like, there's so many

449
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Speaker 2: complications to pregnancy and dangers this, You're already probably malnourished,

450
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Speaker 2: You're probably all these things. If you have morning sickness,

451
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Speaker 2: you're real screwed, and then you have two other kids

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Speaker 2: in this point, Like there's so much that I'm like,

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Speaker 2: this doesn't quite make sense. A B. The birth scene,

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, there, that is why how the

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Speaker 2: child didn't Like typically they scream or they try to

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Speaker 2: get them to start crying to make sure they're breathing

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Speaker 2: and such, none of that happened. Like, I was like,

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Speaker 2: none of that. I guess maybe during the fireworks that

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Speaker 2: was enough to a distraction. And also where are these

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Speaker 2: fireworks coming? Like if you have all of these, they

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Speaker 2: should have been able to survive, is what I've got

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Speaker 2: to say on that one. Again, they're able to rally

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Speaker 2: with each other and help each other out. The sister

464
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Speaker 2: really does help the brother, and the brother helps the

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Speaker 2: sister in their corn silo, like making sure to protect

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Speaker 2: each other. Of course, another theme death during the apocalyp

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Speaker 2: There're gonna have a lot of death. We had the

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Speaker 2: old man come out of nowhere scream because he wanted

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Speaker 2: to kill off everybody's that says, since his wife or

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Speaker 2: partner dies always like and everybody ends.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I think we didn't really talk about this,

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Speaker 1: but there is Lee's trying to find other.

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Speaker 3: Survivors.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to find other survivors, but it's eerie and

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Speaker 1: alone for all of it, and so it feels like

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Speaker 1: if there are people, there are people like this old

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Speaker 1: guy who might.

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Speaker 3: Be a danger, it's a real risk to reach out.

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Speaker 1: And it also just along with the silence, I think

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Speaker 1: it it hangs over the whole movie, this fear of

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Speaker 1: death and like the fallout of this death that happened

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Speaker 1: at the beginning, and having all these precautions in place

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Speaker 1: to prevent death, and it's just constant, like it's there, right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: You can sweaty.

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Speaker 3: I'm like go away to ward off this feeling.

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Speaker 2: Again, with another like the theme of survival, which they

487
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Speaker 2: do have a great job. I was seeing like the

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Speaker 2: amount of corner they have. They can live for a

489
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Speaker 2: long time longally they've got some water.

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Speaker 3: They really had a pretty good setup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the jarred foods and downstairs and the like where'd

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Speaker 2: y'all get that?

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's one of those movies that makes me want

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Speaker 1: to learn learn some things. But I like they had

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Speaker 1: a lot of creative solutions to like their pathways, had

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Speaker 1: to muffle their footsteps, and the their red light system,

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Speaker 1: their light system.

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Speaker 2: Yes, where the electricity electricity?

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Speaker 3: I'm sure maybe they didn't. I don't know. I remember

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Speaker 3: somebody wrote they it was in good fun.

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Speaker 1: But they were talking about the how this alien would

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Speaker 1: actually function, and they're like, no.

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Speaker 2: All the aliens are starting to look similar to each other.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen have you noticed this? Like he looks

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Speaker 2: very much in like a lined with aliens and stranger

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Speaker 2: things put together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he dies, Yeah, I can see that. I can

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Speaker 3: see that. I think I've seen some different.

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Speaker 2: Ghost in is such a different than like aliens aliens

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Speaker 2: or aliens being like mindsets?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like the worms that get in your ear and.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I was thinking the three body problem. Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's just they just communicate the way you never see them.

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Speaker 3: Uh, rival They're kind of like squid.

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Speaker 2: That's a whole female like aliens. We need to talk

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Speaker 2: about those being mucating. I think we actually didn't talk

517
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Speaker 2: about that aliens. I think we did talk about that

518
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: the mother anyway, moving on, but yeah, I think there's

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00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: several other things we could attach to this, the whole

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Speaker 2: h Kevin in the woodsfield being in the country. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So where would you go in apocalyptic situation?

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Speaker 3: Well, we have talked about this.

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Speaker 2: We have.

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Speaker 3: The unfortunate thing for me is I live in a city.

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Speaker 3: I live very close to the center of a city,

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Speaker 3: and so you've seen a lot of apocalypse movies. I'm

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Speaker 3: in a lot of trouble because of that, because I

528
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Speaker 3: basically have to get out of the city otherwise I'm

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Speaker 3: going to be like trapped. Your car is not going

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Speaker 3: to get out. The roads are going to.

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Speaker 1: Be blocked, So I either have to car especially we

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Speaker 1: have that's true, So I either have to get out

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Speaker 1: before things have really gotten sour, or I'm gonna have

534
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Speaker 1: to start walking.

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Speaker 3: I think I.

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Speaker 1: Would head towards where my mom lives because the survivalist

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Speaker 1: lives next door, right, and it's pretty secluded, but like

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Speaker 1: not too secluded. So I feel like I could get

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Speaker 1: some stuff and then from there maybe I'll learn some

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Speaker 1: skills and I'll then I'll move on to somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: I have a couple options in mind. Nothing settled yet though,

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Speaker 1: set I got a plan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I don't much have one either. I would go,

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Speaker 2: but I think towards my family as well, who is

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Speaker 2: in North Georgia and the mountains. Ah, but still like

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Speaker 2: there's no real isolated area.

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Speaker 1: It would really depend on the apocalypse too. What kind

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Speaker 1: of apocalypse are we talking?

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Speaker 2: What are we looking at?

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Speaker 1: Maybe they hate the city and I'll be better off

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Speaker 1: there whatever it starts out in the country, that's true,

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Speaker 1: like a zombie thing probably starting the city. But oh

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00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: that's gotch its risk, but.

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Speaker 2: It does, but it's pretty high security, it's true. Anyway,

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00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: We'll think more on this. Yeah, and I think, as

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Speaker 2: we said before, the character of Evelyn is being built

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Speaker 2: up here, especially with the ending frame of her and

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Speaker 2: Reagan being the lead here and obviously finding a way.

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Speaker 2: Oh we can kill these efforts well essentially with this

560
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: way and having a plan that way I think it

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Speaker 2: definitely does set up for the next one, in which

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Speaker 2: he becomes a little more outspoken, a little more direct,

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Speaker 2: a little more confrontational, especially with the kids and trying

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Speaker 2: to make sure that they survive. It's interesting as that

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Speaker 2: plays out.

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Speaker 1: It is, and I really like Reagan's story and then

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Speaker 1: second one as well watching I think. But yeah, listeners,

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